Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology
Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology. And did you know that every time
Speaker 1: you sleep, a billion spiders crawl inside your mouth and
Speaker 1: have a big spider rave? Gotcha? That's a dirty lie.
Speaker 1: Spiders don't even like raves. They're more indie punk of anything.
Speaker 1: Today on the show, we're gonna look at the truth
Speaker 1: behind viral stories about animals, which claims are real and
Speaker 1: which are dirty lies. I mean, I can't believe someone
Speaker 1: would just go on the Internet and lie. Will investigate
Speaker 1: claims of miniature great white sharks, decapitated heads coming back
Speaker 1: to life, unicorn dogs, and germophobic ringatans, and we'll find
Speaker 1: out that the truth behind these stories is more mind
Speaker 1: blowing than fiction. Discover this more as we answer the
Speaker 1: asul question what happens when the zebra becomes a fashion innovator.
Speaker 1: Joining me today are the hosts of even More News,
Speaker 1: Internet Liars and podcast Truther's Katie Stolen, Cody Johnston. Great
Speaker 1: to be here, and that's maybe a lie. It is
Speaker 1: great to be here. One of them tells only lies
Speaker 1: and the other one sometimes lies a little bit. By
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, you'll get to guess which
Speaker 1: is which d or will you yes you will? Or
Speaker 1: will you? Oh? This is good? This is good. So
Speaker 1: you guys people, Okay, I'm gonna need you to sit
Speaker 1: down for this one. But sometimes people go on the
Speaker 1: Internet and tell lies. No I get I get my
Speaker 1: information from the Internet, and i've it's always accurate, So
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: a stunning thing to discover that sometimes the Internet, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not always a straight shooter. It doesn't always tell
Speaker 1: you the truth, which is I don't know. It really
Speaker 1: shocked me finding out about this as I was researching
Speaker 1: it last night, just researching Internet, does it lie? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: The answer yeah, actually okay, But do you know if
Speaker 1: they're telling the truth on that, right? Can you trust that?
Speaker 1: Where'd you get that information from Wikipedia? My brains? Brains?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you still getting your information? Because oh god?
Speaker 1: Twitter is okay? Right? My medula aubleing gotta But moving on, So,
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of viral stories about animals.
Speaker 1: I feel like, especially now, I think because we're all
Speaker 1: kind of stuck inside, like we want to connect to
Speaker 1: the outside world. So seeing pictures of amazing animals is
Speaker 1: really appealing, and I do not blame anyone for that.
Speaker 1: I'm super into it as well. But let's pick through
Speaker 1: these viral stories and find out which ones are true
Speaker 1: and which ones are dirty lies from lying liar liar butts.
Speaker 1: So we're basically going to ruin animals to ruining animals today,
Speaker 1: ruining your dreams. That's the podcast. It's the Debbie Downer
Speaker 1: podcast where I ruined everyone's dreams. No, some of these
Speaker 1: are true, and for some of these, the truth is
Speaker 1: actually more interesting than the Internet lies, so people will
Speaker 1: enjoy it. But we're not going to find out that
Speaker 1: like dogs aren't real or anything like that. Right, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we won't. You promised me. Okay, you guys, I want
Speaker 1: you to become Internet sleuths and try to guess this one.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen this story on Twitter that there
Speaker 1: are miniature great white sharks that are just cute, tiny
Speaker 1: little great white sharks that look like little footballs with
Speaker 1: shark faces on them, and they are called salmon sharks,
Speaker 1: and it is a species of miniature great white shark
Speaker 1: looking sharks. Is this real. Is this photoshop? Are sharks cute? Now?
Speaker 1: What is going on? What would you guys guess? I
Speaker 1: would guess that it's a baby? Is your baby? My
Speaker 1: guess was also going to be your baby? And this
Speaker 1: is where we get to look at your helpful slides. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: Katie has provided us with pictures, and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: a picture of this adorable little shark. I guess a
Speaker 1: little toothy little guy. If I were just looking at it,
Speaker 1: I would guess that it it's a baby. Having never
Speaker 1: seen a baby shark before. Yeah, if I didn't even
Speaker 1: hear your intro, i'd be like, that's a picture of
Speaker 1: a baby shark. So you're saying that's a baby shark.
Speaker 1: Do do do do? Or do do? Do? Do do? Sharks? Baby,
Speaker 1: it's a baby. So I hear you guys saying you
Speaker 1: think it's a baby great white shark? Right sure, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going with that. All right, you guys
Speaker 1: are very smart. This is actually it is a baby,
Speaker 1: but it is not a great white shark. So that
Speaker 1: was you're doing. So that was you're doing. Okay, we
Speaker 1: said baby shark, you had a great white shark? All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shark words in your mouth you did. I had some
Speaker 1: hesitance because when you added the was it was my
Speaker 1: tone of voice when I was like, you guys think
Speaker 1: it's a baby, great idiot, it was. It was as
Speaker 1: pointed as these baby shark teeth, these little chump well,
Speaker 1: these are little chomp boys, and they are babies. You
Speaker 1: guys guessed it. But they are actually salmon sharks. So
Speaker 1: it it's true that these are salmon sharks, but these
Speaker 1: are not miniature great white sharks. These are baby salmon sharks,
Speaker 1: and they are this cute. These are real photos. I
Speaker 1: love salmon sharks, and even though salmon sharks grow bigger
Speaker 1: than this, I still think they're adorable. So big they get,
Speaker 1: they get to be about six to eight feet, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're standard shark size. Um, yeah, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: smaller than a great white sharks. So really good thing.
Speaker 1: We didn't think it was a great white shark, Katie,
Speaker 1: good thing. Nobody here thought that. So so that means
Speaker 1: that they I did a real I did a real
Speaker 1: straw shark. Except wait, no, we're not supposed to put
Speaker 1: straws in the ocean, God damn it. So they grow
Speaker 1: like I said about six to eight feet that's about
Speaker 1: two hundred to two hundred sixty centimeters. They weigh up
Speaker 1: to four hundred and ninety pounds, which is about two
Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, they turned from middle football size
Speaker 1: baby chomping boys, big old chomp boys, chomping men and women.
Speaker 1: We're not sexist in this podcast. For comparison, great white
Speaker 1: sharks grow to be about eleven to sixteen feet and
Speaker 1: way from a thousand to a thousand seven hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: so that's up to about seven hundred seventys So generally speaking,
Speaker 1: great white sharks are about two times bigger than salmon sharks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's a It is interesting because Katie,
Speaker 1: like when you said that, like, oh, they're about standard
Speaker 1: sharks size. That's kind of like what I was thinking
Speaker 1: when I was looking it up, and then I realized, well, wait, no,
Speaker 1: great white sharks are way bigger than that, and that
Speaker 1: is astounding. So salmon sharks are called salmon sharks because
Speaker 1: they love to murder salmon, which okay, yeah, are actually
Speaker 1: in the same order of sharks as the great white sharks,
Speaker 1: so they are cousins in a way. They're both mackerel sharks.
Speaker 1: And they are found in the northern Pacific Ocean. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that they are pretty cute. Even as adults,
Speaker 1: they are pretty cute. Would you would you refer to
Speaker 1: like because salwi sharks are smaller and great white sharks,
Speaker 1: so you could technically call like a salmon shark like
Speaker 1: a baby great white shark, like a full grown salmon shark.
Speaker 1: Still like kind of like a baby different uh species
Speaker 1: of shark reads a shark mate? Ever, I don't know
Speaker 1: of It should be technically possible, but I don't really
Speaker 1: know of any hybrid shark shark meal sharks there there
Speaker 1: could I feel like it's technically possible, I've just never
Speaker 1: heard of it. I just gave you a picture of
Speaker 1: an adult salmon shark so you can see it kind
Speaker 1: of retains its doofy little chomp boy face, which I
Speaker 1: think like its little I do too perfect for booping
Speaker 1: at that size any bigger, I wouldn't want to. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: I guess I technically wouldn't want to boop that nose anyway. No,
Speaker 1: you probably don't. I mean, like in theory, I also
Speaker 1: want to boop it, and I want to hold it
Speaker 1: and pet it. But they wouldn't like it, and they
Speaker 1: probably feel a little bit of a chomp, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you gotta, you gotta. The boop has to be
Speaker 1: a fist, right, oh Jesus, just like you got coming
Speaker 1: at you, you pop its nose, right, Yeah, I certainly
Speaker 1: wouldn't be doing that. Yeah, No, I would rather lose
Speaker 1: an arm than assault one of these cute little baby sharks.
Speaker 1: What if it's coming at you, though, you know, I
Speaker 1: probably deserve to get chomped. I mean that's just true,
Speaker 1: but hypothetical. All right, you just don't go swimming in
Speaker 1: shark terror. You get a tennis racket and you just
Speaker 1: kind of like, don't you know, I always bring my
Speaker 1: tennis racket with me when I'm swimming in the ocean.
Speaker 1: I love swinging things underwater. It's very I mean, they're
Speaker 1: very aerodynamic. Sorry, hydrodynamic. God, I'm stupid. It is both
Speaker 1: depends on Yeah, that's true. True enough. So, the ones
Speaker 1: featured in the viral photos are baby salmon sharks, and
Speaker 1: just for the record, to add to the cuteness of it,
Speaker 1: baby sharks are called pups. They are they at all pups,
Speaker 1: and for salmon sharks, they're born in litters of around six,
Speaker 1: so lots of these cute, little, cute little pups being born.
Speaker 1: And also the salmon sharks, even adult ones, pose very
Speaker 1: little threat to humans. In theory, they could definitely kill you, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not that they lack the ability, they just don't.
Speaker 1: They're not very aggressive, and there's just not that many
Speaker 1: recorded cases of them injuring people. They do they they
Speaker 1: do bite people. Usually it's an accident, though, Like there's
Speaker 1: very few actual attacks that have been reported. Most of
Speaker 1: them are someone waiting in shallows and then one of
Speaker 1: them like accidentally bonking into your leg and then kind
Speaker 1: of nipping at you like a little chihuahua. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: cute little cut, little nibbles, cute little nibbles. And then
Speaker 1: I want to also address another shark kind of myth,
Speaker 1: maybe truth. Have you guys heard of the fact that
Speaker 1: sharks have to keep moving or they die. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a pretty common I've heard that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: this is it's an interesting thing because it's not completely false.
Speaker 1: But what people are thinking about when they think about
Speaker 1: the sharks have to move to live is sharks that
Speaker 1: are called obligate ram ventilators. So that means sharks that
Speaker 1: have to keep moving in order to breathe for the
Speaker 1: water to pump through their gills. But actually, most sharks
Speaker 1: are not obligate ram ventilators, meaning they don't actually have
Speaker 1: to keep moving to breathe because they have muscles in
Speaker 1: their cheeks that pump the water. But the salmon sharks
Speaker 1: as well as great white sharks are some of the
Speaker 1: few sharks that really are obligate raumd ventilators. They do
Speaker 1: actually have to keep moving in order to have the
Speaker 1: water flow over their gills where there is gas exchange
Speaker 1: that happens, and that's how they get oxygen so they
Speaker 1: can keep living. Exhausting my trusted Wait, so this might
Speaker 1: be a dumb question. How do they do things like rest?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they don't. That's actually no, that's
Speaker 1: a very good question. They actually can kind of go
Speaker 1: into sort of a kind of half sleep state where
Speaker 1: they're still moving very slowly, but they are resting. It's
Speaker 1: just like, I think that a lot of us can
Speaker 1: relate to this. Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's a very relatable. God,
Speaker 1: I want to be a salmon shark just going through
Speaker 1: the ocean, just as a baby, just a little angry
Speaker 1: little football, and then I grow up and I'm a
Speaker 1: big angry football and just chomping on things salmon. All
Speaker 1: those in mega fatty acids get something. There are sharks
Speaker 1: that are very tiny and never grow to be big.
Speaker 1: In fact, the smallest shark, called the dwarf lantern shark,
Speaker 1: only grows to be about eight inches, so that's twenty cimeters.
Speaker 1: They're like this size, the length of a pencil. They is.
Speaker 1: It's not a baby. This is an adult. It's a puppy.
Speaker 1: It's a baby in terms of I want to hold
Speaker 1: it in a little in a little baby biorn, in
Speaker 1: terms of how old it is. No, No, it is
Speaker 1: an adult. I've been I've been listening this whole time.
Speaker 1: It's a baby. No, it's an adult. They live near
Speaker 1: Colombia and Venezuela, and very little is known about them
Speaker 1: other than that they are probably the world's smallest sharks.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this picture you've given us. Yes, does
Speaker 1: not look like a shark. It is. It looks like
Speaker 1: it looks like a grown anchovy. It does look like
Speaker 1: a grown anchovy with huge eyes. Yes, fish like Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean sharks sharks is fish? Yeah? Sure, I know
Speaker 1: so right, So like it's like, oh, that just looks
Speaker 1: like a weird tiny fish. Um, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1: You said probably the smallest is there like other other
Speaker 1: other contenders and they just haven't found enough to judge
Speaker 1: or yeah, I mean so the pygmy shark is another
Speaker 1: really tiny shark that one only grows to be about
Speaker 1: ten inches or twenty long, and it lives all over
Speaker 1: the world in deep oceans. So it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: like the difference between these sharks is kind of hard
Speaker 1: to say which one is the smallest, but it seems
Speaker 1: to be like the door flantern shark is like a
Speaker 1: couple inches yeah generally yeah, yeah, so's it seems it's
Speaker 1: just like, again, these are like deep sea sharks that
Speaker 1: we don't know that much about, so it's like the
Speaker 1: sample size of the sharks is pretty small, so it's
Speaker 1: hard to say whether they really are the smallest. Sign
Speaker 1: shark is the smallest, or if there's like a species
Speaker 1: we don't even know about that's the smallest. I like
Speaker 1: in this picture that this tiny shark is definitely giving
Speaker 1: the camera person a side eye. Yes, he's like the
Speaker 1: are you doing bro? Put me down back in my world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did I understand? Yeah, that shark has no idea what's
Speaker 1: going on? Right? I know only I only know Chomps.
Speaker 1: I don't know likes or retweets. What his retweet nonsense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what means ratio. Sorry, sorry Chomps and swim. No,
Speaker 1: they're not interested. Moving on to another fishy tail. Except
Speaker 1: it's not about a fish. It's about a cetacean, which
Speaker 1: is a marine mammal that includes orcas, whales, and dolphins.
Speaker 1: A cetacean cetacean station. Welcome to cetaceans. I don't know, Katie,
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I think it's trying to hear T A C E Okay,
Speaker 1: it ends like crustacean, probably right. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not the strongest speller out louder, you know, like when
Speaker 1: someone's like spelled the I'm like, please leave me alone, ma'am.
Speaker 1: I just, I just I'm I'm somebody that's good learning audio,
Speaker 1: you know. But I need the combination of seeing it
Speaker 1: and I texted to you with the health spell check
Speaker 1: C E T A C E A N. I did it.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Listener is that what I said,
Speaker 1: find out if I was right. All right, that's a
Speaker 1: cool new monic. Actually, Cody, I had you on the
Speaker 1: show like two years ago and we talked about it
Speaker 1: was a much more of a downer episode because we
Speaker 1: talked about like undead animals or deal with death, so
Speaker 1: and we actually talked it was very spooled. Well, this
Speaker 1: is an update for you which we talked about. Do
Speaker 1: you remember that Orca that carried her dead calf around
Speaker 1: for like days because she was in mourning? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah. Well but here's here's this viral
Speaker 1: story is claiming that drone footage has captured images of
Speaker 1: her and she is now pregnant again. I'm actually I'm
Speaker 1: not going to make you guys guess because that's just mean.
Speaker 1: This is true. This is absolutely true. So she's pregnant again. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt I was gonna be like is it true
Speaker 1: or false? That just felt mean because yes, this is true.
Speaker 1: So back in when I had Cody and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to come on Animal's podcast, He's like great, yes, sure.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's about dead animals, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: just made a lot of just a lot of zombie
Speaker 1: animals like corpses. Yeah, so happy for her, yes, So
Speaker 1: researchers are really optimistic, but also worried about her calf
Speaker 1: being healthy because fishing has reduced the chinook salmon population,
Speaker 1: one that killer whales rely upon for nutrition. Um, and
Speaker 1: her pregnancy is a really big deal. So her population
Speaker 1: of killer whales, which live near the Canada Washington coast,
Speaker 1: so these are called Southern resident killer whales, her group
Speaker 1: is struggling. Their population is suffering a little bit. And
Speaker 1: when she had her calf back in the one that
Speaker 1: sadly passed away, it was the first successful pregnancy in
Speaker 1: her population in three years. So it's really sad, not
Speaker 1: just you know, because it's sad that the calf dive
Speaker 1: is also sad for the conservation of these orcas. And
Speaker 1: so now three or thirty three years, three years, yes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, it's you definitely want more than one
Speaker 1: calf in a population every three years, like for to
Speaker 1: sustain the popular lation. So now fingers crossed, everyone's that
Speaker 1: this new calf will make it. Of course, everyone's worried that,
Speaker 1: you know, like similar problems are gonna happen to this calf,
Speaker 1: but you know, we'll we'll see, this will be this
Speaker 1: will be something to cheer on, to hope, be hopeful about.
Speaker 1: How long do whales? How did they carry their babies?
Speaker 1: That's actually really good question, dead right, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: you brought it up, so it's about, um, seventeen months,
Speaker 1: which is actually a bit longer, a long time. I've
Speaker 1: never been pressing. I don't know. Um, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: imagine seventeen months would be a nightmare. Yeah yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like a lot of like bigger mammals, like elephants, to
Speaker 1: have these really long pregnancies to develop these giant babies. God,
Speaker 1: baby elephants are so cute. They are. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about me. We did last week. You just missed it.
Speaker 1: Were they cut? They were very cute. Did they paint stuff?
Speaker 1: Did they did they love each other? They loved each
Speaker 1: other very much. Yes, the elephants love treating each other
Speaker 1: with respect. They do. They do the grandmas and ants.
Speaker 1: They all crowd around the new mom and and pet
Speaker 1: the baby. It's it's very cute. It's a good time.
Speaker 1: Go listen to that episode if you haven't already. So now,
Speaker 1: going from relatively happy, happy viral story to a little
Speaker 1: bit of a concerning one. There is this viral story
Speaker 1: claiming that a decapitated wolf eel head can bite you
Speaker 1: and kill you with its venomous strike. And there is
Speaker 1: a video of aforementioned decapitated wolf eel head biting into
Speaker 1: a coke can after death. And it's yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a spooky, spooky, scary video, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that that claim is quite alarming. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think You can look at the video first, play the video. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and play the video and try to figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on the video. Oh my god, um no,
Speaker 1: the person held the jaw open and then clamped down
Speaker 1: right like like a puppet, Like like a puppet or
Speaker 1: like something that's dead, and so it's like it's muscles
Speaker 1: are different when once it's died, that their contracting or
Speaker 1: doing something. So like the jaws clamped shut it. The
Speaker 1: person opens it like a hind like a door and
Speaker 1: keeps it open, puts the canon, lets it open, and
Speaker 1: it snaps shut. Right. I mean, that's an interesting theory
Speaker 1: or it's real. Wait, everyone, I take it back. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that that's real, because yes, there
Speaker 1: is a hand on the head, but I don't know
Speaker 1: either way, it's pretty gross. I would have to see
Speaker 1: the head like at rest and no hands touching it,
Speaker 1: and then uh, somebody taking something the animal might want
Speaker 1: to eat and bring it close to its face, so
Speaker 1: then it opens its mouth and closes it, as opposed
Speaker 1: to just like lifting up a corpse and like moving
Speaker 1: it until it snaps back into place. Right, Yeah, sort
Speaker 1: of to determine whether it is actually consciously trying to chomp. Now,
Speaker 1: that would be a good experiment. We should do that.
Speaker 1: We could should get a bunch of decapitated wolf feels
Speaker 1: and try that one out. Oh, I got him, I
Speaker 1: got him. I not for this, but another thing that
Speaker 1: I want, that mysterious soggy pile was We don't need
Speaker 1: to talk about the mysterious saggy pile. We're doing science,
Speaker 1: So this will be the last reference we make to
Speaker 1: the mysterious saggy pile on this podcast. I promise you.
Speaker 1: I don't promise. So this is an interesting story because
Speaker 1: it is not a hundred percent bowl honky, although it's
Speaker 1: partially bowl honky. There's some bowl honky and some not
Speaker 1: bowl honky. So this viral story came from a video
Speaker 1: that was circulating in the wind of twenty nine Frightening
Speaker 1: Sea Creatures. Disembodied head is seen biting into a coke can,
Speaker 1: along with the claim that the head of a wolf
Speaker 1: feel can still bite and poison you after it's been decapitated.
Speaker 1: Now they probably mean instead of poison you, it's like
Speaker 1: it can still bite and be venomous, because of course,
Speaker 1: poison is something you ingest, and venom is something that
Speaker 1: happens when something bites you. So the video itself does
Speaker 1: not appear to be doctored, But here's what's probably happening.
Speaker 1: And Cody, you're you're on the right track with your idea,
Speaker 1: but it is a little spookier than that. So this
Speaker 1: poor wolf feel that got ned starked is having a
Speaker 1: post mortem muscle nervous system reaction to the stimulus. So
Speaker 1: you know how like chickens that are decapitated, their bodies
Speaker 1: twitched and run around a little bit, or like a
Speaker 1: lizard tail may be less sort of gruesome, like when
Speaker 1: a lizard tail detached, that tail like still wriggles around
Speaker 1: like it's alive. Pretty gruesome. Still, this eel head is
Speaker 1: probably doing something similar. So you noticed that, like they
Speaker 1: kind of like they kind of slammed this. This coat
Speaker 1: can into its mouth like the shotgun it so by
Speaker 1: pushing shoving it into the mouth, it's probably that force
Speaker 1: is required to stimulate these nerves that while the wolf
Speaker 1: eel head is probably dead and hopefully pretty unconscious. In
Speaker 1: the full video, I didn't show you the full video
Speaker 1: because it's a little but they show them like decapitating
Speaker 1: the wolf feel and like it's pretty fresh. So probably
Speaker 1: what's going on is while the brain is dead, these
Speaker 1: nerves in its mouth are still sort of squasi functioning,
Speaker 1: so if you if you stimulate them enough, it'll it'll
Speaker 1: twitch basically, so it has this reflexive thing of something
Speaker 1: its mouth chomped down. So probably they've stimulated those nerves
Speaker 1: and it's mouth and then it's having this reflex But
Speaker 1: it's not a zombie. It's not still alive. It's just
Speaker 1: this like reflexive thing. And in fact, this can happen
Speaker 1: with with rattlesnake heads. Like you decapitated rattlesnake, that thing
Speaker 1: can still bite you and it can still be venomous
Speaker 1: um shortly after decapitation. But it's again, it's probably not
Speaker 1: a zombie snake although depending on where you cut the
Speaker 1: head off, and like how soon after cutting it off,
Speaker 1: like it can live for a little while, Jesus, you know,
Speaker 1: just not not very long, not very well. It's not
Speaker 1: a great life. It's not a great life now, not
Speaker 1: not living living it's best life. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: definitely different than I mean saying like a decapitated wolf
Speaker 1: eel can still bite you, right, It's it's misleading in
Speaker 1: that sure, if you put something in its math, it's
Speaker 1: not like your arm side of itself. It's not like
Speaker 1: I'm coming right slithering across the floor personaltory. Yeah I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to know the details of its nerves.
Speaker 1: But no, no, I think you were very much on
Speaker 1: the right track. I mean it's in Katie're right, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be like a pac Man head coming
Speaker 1: after you, like um zombie wolf. Feel it's got the
Speaker 1: face for it. It does got it's got a good
Speaker 1: face for it, got a good pac Man face. That's
Speaker 1: I kind of like would want to be haunted by it?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like haunted by this eel head.
Speaker 1: If it's like I'm gonna get you, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know it'd be a fun time. It's got
Speaker 1: a very billy bass songs going on at night, but
Speaker 1: like it's choruses of children instead of the yeah yeah
Speaker 1: la la la la la. I think these wolf eels
Speaker 1: actually look really interesting. They are faces are kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know, like saying they're human like is a
Speaker 1: little strange, but they do have a kind of human
Speaker 1: expression on them. I guess, yeah, there's some personality going
Speaker 1: on there, Yeah, exactly. An other one of the lies
Speaker 1: in this viral story is this idea that they are venomous.
Speaker 1: They're absolutely not venomous. That's just that's just not true.
Speaker 1: There are venomous fish, but this is not one of them.
Speaker 1: That's such a weird lie to add. I know, that's
Speaker 1: so weird, just like but like this is the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff that like that's like everything you said that's true,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Show me a video where someone explains what's
Speaker 1: going on in the nerves of the dead fish, and
Speaker 1: like I would be like, that's interesting instead of this
Speaker 1: like long drawn out process of trying to find out
Speaker 1: if it's true or not. That's what that's what gets
Speaker 1: me about these like explanations behind these things because you know,
Speaker 1: I think, oh, is it people really gonna want to
Speaker 1: listen to me like debunking all of these coolness And
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, because the truth is actually a lot cooler.
Speaker 1: And speaking of which, the wolf eel is a lot
Speaker 1: cooler than just it's it's they're more than just a
Speaker 1: decapitated head, you guys, there's a whole They have a
Speaker 1: whole life other than being decapitated at head. We'll see
Speaker 1: about that. So they are actually not an eel, even
Speaker 1: though they're called wolf feel it's just because they have
Speaker 1: long bodies, But they are not technically a true eel.
Speaker 1: They are just a species of wolf fish. And they
Speaker 1: are very intimidating looking. They can grow to be seven
Speaker 1: ft long, which is two meters in wag forty one
Speaker 1: pounds or eighteen killgrams. So there, they're big old noodles.
Speaker 1: Look at this. Yeah, this dude holding it is enormous
Speaker 1: wolf Yes, yea straggling to hold it up. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't want to find myself next to them, right.
Speaker 1: But it seems like there's a lot of disinformation surrounding
Speaker 1: these eels. There's misinformation. In the title of the video,
Speaker 1: it says catfish versus coke. Yeah, it's not a catfish,
Speaker 1: it's a wolf fish. That's wrong. But also, like the
Speaker 1: title says catfish and then the description says wolf feel what, like,
Speaker 1: why does anybody use the internet? I don't know. The
Speaker 1: internet is so frustrating. People just do that, go on
Speaker 1: the internet and all lies like it's the first I've
Speaker 1: heard of it, and it's the first time I've so yeah,
Speaker 1: hard to believe that that that would happen. But these
Speaker 1: wolffish that are called the wolf eels, which is a
Speaker 1: bit of a misnomer. They can also live to be
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, so, and they also spend most
Speaker 1: of their time in underwater caves. And here's a cute fact.
Speaker 1: They often mate for life, so they are monogamous. There's
Speaker 1: like a little, a little cute, little couple of these huge,
Speaker 1: sort of monstrous looking fish and they're horrifying, sure, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they look a bit like flotsam and Jetsam in The
Speaker 1: Little Mermaid, which are I think flotsam and Jetsam are
Speaker 1: actually more a's, but yeah, they do. They look a
Speaker 1: little bit. You'll like, they look like more ray's, but
Speaker 1: they are not their Wolffish and yeah, they just have
Speaker 1: they have weird like old man faces, if it makes sense,
Speaker 1: not like like a little bit mutated, maybe maybe exposed
Speaker 1: to some radiation, but like an old man face. That
Speaker 1: you mean like half old man, half fish. I mean
Speaker 1: that we don't know how they originated. Maybe there's true,
Speaker 1: maybe these are old men, just irradiated old men and
Speaker 1: venomous or not, which they're not. They can still bite
Speaker 1: humans um, which can cause serious injury because they actually
Speaker 1: bite down and crack open clams and sea urchins. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing, they just tend not to do it.
Speaker 1: They're not very aggressive like snorkelers and scuba divers. Just
Speaker 1: like say that they're not. You know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to mess with them. You don't want to like kind
Speaker 1: of tease them, but don't don't go and don't bully
Speaker 1: the wild life, right, like don't shove coke cans in
Speaker 1: their mouth like you want to coke, you want to coke.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they don't. They're not like aggressive. They don't
Speaker 1: like chase after you, trying to bite you. They just
Speaker 1: kind of want to be left alone with their significant
Speaker 1: others so they can chomp down on sea urchins all day.
Speaker 1: You know, most animals don't want to be bothered by
Speaker 1: human beings. Cody's writing it down, Yeah, stop fucking animals.
Speaker 1: Why are oceans and bodies of water so mysterious? From
Speaker 1: the Lochness Monster to Cthulhu, we like to imagine an
Speaker 1: undiscovered world of cryptic creatures or whole civilizations like Atlantis.
Speaker 1: The truth is water is full of life, it is mysterious,
Speaker 1: and the ocean is freaking huge darn itt So while
Speaker 1: Atlantis or Cathulhu probably don't learn just beyond our detection,
Speaker 1: many creatures probably do. A study used a statistical model
Speaker 1: to estimate that there are likely seven hundred thousand to
Speaker 1: one million distinct species living in the ocean. Of those,
Speaker 1: two thirds may have yet to be discovered. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of tiny loch Nessi's running around when we return
Speaker 1: munical horns? Are they real? I'll present the facts and
Speaker 1: you can be the judge. One of the earliest recorded
Speaker 1: unicorns may have actually been a real animal. The rocks,
Speaker 1: ancient stone seals from the ancient Bronze Age Indus Valley
Speaker 1: civilization of South Asia show what appeared to be a unicorn.
Speaker 1: And we're a symbol of wealth. What they really depicted
Speaker 1: were their orocks, wild cattle that are the now extinct
Speaker 1: ancestors of domesticated cattle. In fact, they had two horns,
Speaker 1: but the seals were always in profile, so it appeared
Speaker 1: as if they only had one horn, So to those
Speaker 1: viewing the seal centuries later, it appeared as if unicorns
Speaker 1: roamed the earth. In this section, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about unicorns, real real life unicorns, capitated unicorns, and how
Speaker 1: if you punch them, they're like, no help, You stick
Speaker 1: a coat cannon and decapitated unicorn's mouth. They go, why
Speaker 1: have you done this with you? I wanted to grant
Speaker 1: your wishes? So unicorns, I'm saying in terms of like
Speaker 1: these rare mystical looking animals. Uh that including an actual
Speaker 1: unicorn at the end, So you know, that'll be fun.
Speaker 1: We'll see what's going on with that. But let's try
Speaker 1: to figure out if these things are real or fake
Speaker 1: or what's going on? Is it photoshop? Can you tell
Speaker 1: by the pixels? Let's go you guys. First up is
Speaker 1: spotted zebra. Spotted zebra, a picture of a zebra with
Speaker 1: white spots has made the rounds online. What's going on
Speaker 1: what's the deal? What is this? I think it's an
Speaker 1: anomaly anomaly. Um my guess would be uh, somewhere between
Speaker 1: an anomaly and just like that's what baby zebras look like,
Speaker 1: like the spots turned into stripes over time their coat changes.
Speaker 1: That's a good guess. That's a good guess, and it
Speaker 1: will develop into the that we know and love writing
Speaker 1: at this baby, it's mostly spotted, it's got some it
Speaker 1: looks like some hints of a stripe coming in on
Speaker 1: the lakes. So I can see that theory being true. Cody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's actually a really interesting idea. It mate it with
Speaker 1: a dalmatian, So these are really interesting theories. You guys,
Speaker 1: You guys are so smart because this is not a photoshop,
Speaker 1: but it is real. Cody, your idea is really interesting.
Speaker 1: It's wrong, of course, it's very very extremely extremely wrong
Speaker 1: and not true at all. But but it's a good
Speaker 1: idea because there are a lot of animals who do
Speaker 1: go through coat changes. So when they're born they have
Speaker 1: a different coat, like I mean, dear for example, they
Speaker 1: come out they have spots. As they grow up, the
Speaker 1: spots fade, So that's you know, not not a stupid
Speaker 1: idea just the wrong one. So this is again as
Speaker 1: a victory and now Katie, you are more on the
Speaker 1: right track. So this is a this is a real
Speaker 1: zebra named Tyra. This is born. This is zebra was
Speaker 1: born in Kenya's Messima National Reserve. And this cute little
Speaker 1: full probably has something that's called pseudo melanism. So melanism
Speaker 1: is an overproduction of pigment in animals that creates black fur, feathers,
Speaker 1: or skin, and so you see that a lot like
Speaker 1: with you'll see squirrels that that have black fur. You know.
Speaker 1: Actually we talked about this a little bit last week,
Speaker 1: but black panthers are actually just any species of panthera
Speaker 1: that is melanistic, so it can be a melanistic leopard,
Speaker 1: melanistic jaguar. Yeah, yeah, it is really cool. But pseudo
Speaker 1: melanism is interesting because it shows how like pigmentation mutations
Speaker 1: can be varied, so it's not just sort of an
Speaker 1: on off switch in terms of like either you have
Speaker 1: albinism or typical coloration or melanism. So pseudo melanism is
Speaker 1: another pigmentation mutation where an animal who characteristically has stripes
Speaker 1: or spots. These stripes are spots are larger or smaller
Speaker 1: than normal. So what we're seeing with the zebra is
Speaker 1: first we kind of have to know like how zebras work,
Speaker 1: Like are they black with white stripes or white with
Speaker 1: black stripes? You know that that whole thing. So the
Speaker 1: it actually does have an answer, which is that zebra skin,
Speaker 1: just the pigment of their skin under their fur is black.
Speaker 1: But then they have fur that grows out of their
Speaker 1: skin that is both black and white. So you know
Speaker 1: that that's just that's kind of how that's how zebras is,
Speaker 1: how they is, and that's how zebras is. You guys,
Speaker 1: this is a science podcast, and I teach you about
Speaker 1: how zebras is. So this pseudo melanism with this really
Speaker 1: cute little baby zebra, Tira with the polka dots, Basically,
Speaker 1: her black stripes have grown in really big, and then
Speaker 1: her white stripes have grown in really small for some reason.
Speaker 1: So she's she's got the black and white stripes, but
Speaker 1: the white stripes just aren't grown in. You know, nobody's beautiful,
Speaker 1: nobody listens to the white stripes anymore, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, very early two thousand, I think when they
Speaker 1: were She is beautiful and adorable, but there is a
Speaker 1: bit of concern in terms of like when you have
Speaker 1: like an atypical pigmentation as an animal, because zebras have
Speaker 1: stripes for a reason. We're not hud percent sure what
Speaker 1: the main reason is, but there are a few theories
Speaker 1: that biologists have come up with, and one of them
Speaker 1: sort of one of the leading theories is that those
Speaker 1: stripes actually protect them from biting flies. So biting flies
Speaker 1: are a huge menace for zebras. They can cause disease,
Speaker 1: blood loss, it's just like you and they're just super annoying.
Speaker 1: And biting flies seem to really struggle to land on
Speaker 1: striped surfaces, possibly due to something called the barber pole illusion.
Speaker 1: So you know, like with the barber pole, you have
Speaker 1: these stripes that wrap around it, and the pole just
Speaker 1: kind of rotates, but it looks like it's going up
Speaker 1: and down like vertically. So yeah, it looks like it's
Speaker 1: moving vertically in a direction even though it's just rotating horizontally.
Speaker 1: And so that's the illusion. So with stripes, as you're
Speaker 1: moving as a fly or even maybe as a predator,
Speaker 1: you see these stripes moving, it may confuse you as
Speaker 1: to what direction they're moving in. So that potentially protects
Speaker 1: them both from biting flies. It can protect them from predators.
Speaker 1: So yeah, little Tira is is cute as she is,
Speaker 1: she may be getting more fly bites, so hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 1: she's all right. But yeah, it's it's always it's it's
Speaker 1: cute to see these animals. But it is also interesting
Speaker 1: because it it's one of those things where you realize, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: like the reason animals typically have a type of coloration
Speaker 1: and the type of pattern is because of some evolutionary advantage.
Speaker 1: So polka dot zebra true, real and cute. I wonder
Speaker 1: if there's any sort of social fallout that she will
Speaker 1: see in her pack or whatever, heard from not heard
Speaker 1: for for not having the typical colorations if she's yeah,
Speaker 1: the question, it's a good question. I don't. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be the case. Like it seems like they
Speaker 1: don't they don't know the difference. Um, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that that does happen, Like if there is a
Speaker 1: mutation with an offspring, sometimes the offspring for whatever reason
Speaker 1: does get rejected by the herd or or the family
Speaker 1: or mother or whatever for for some reason. But in
Speaker 1: this case, it doesn't seem to be Uh. So it's like,
Speaker 1: which is nice. So just get her fly swatters what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, in the tail, right, Put in the tail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put a fly swatter. I mean the tails do kind
Speaker 1: of serve as fly swatters. So you just add a
Speaker 1: fly swatter to the tail, you know, and then you
Speaker 1: got and then you got yourself a spotted zebra exactly.
Speaker 1: I've seen cartoons. I don't know things work. So our
Speaker 1: next mystical unicorn like animal is a demon fox. So
Speaker 1: there is a photo of a stunning black and red
Speaker 1: fox who looks like it's part dragon, and it is
Speaker 1: coupled with the text quote a melanistic fox one of
Speaker 1: the rarest animals on the planet. So is this fox news?
Speaker 1: Is it a demon? Is it photoshop? I think that
Speaker 1: it's real. Mhm, I believe I've seen I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's this exact photo, but I I saw a
Speaker 1: photo of a similar fox and I was like, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: And I googled the phrase and I saw a bunch
Speaker 1: of images and I did not look any further into it.
Speaker 1: Could you describe describe like the fox like that you're seeing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, um, I mean, it's got It's like a
Speaker 1: very vibrant, like ready orange color. And then it's just
Speaker 1: got these long like swabs of like black over its face,
Speaker 1: covering its space. It looks like a swirl like you
Speaker 1: got like red orange and black ice cream flavors whatever
Speaker 1: those are, and like and swear and swirl them together
Speaker 1: a bit. The orange almost looks glowy. Yeah, the contrast
Speaker 1: is very cool. I think it's real, but I also
Speaker 1: think that probably people took a photo of this and
Speaker 1: bumped up the contrast a little to make it extra.
Speaker 1: It definitely seems to be a nice placed light glowing down.
Speaker 1: It seems to be well little HDR, doesn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's been bumped up. It's been enhanced. Can't
Speaker 1: Can we stop airbrushing everything, you guys, there's no actual
Speaker 1: beauty in the world. Let's appreciate that the Instagram foxes
Speaker 1: are giving just everyday. Fox is a complex and it
Speaker 1: has to stop these Fox influencers. I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1: But you guys are right on the money. This is
Speaker 1: not a photoshop. And Katie, I think you are correct
Speaker 1: about the contrast just being bumped up a little bit
Speaker 1: because I've also seen these in other photos, and they
Speaker 1: are still stunning lee beautiful, but they don't look like
Speaker 1: they're literally glowing um. And here there's actually a really
Speaker 1: interesting story behind this, and the text that accompanies this
Speaker 1: picture is not quite right because they're saying this is
Speaker 1: a melanistic fox, one of the rarest animals on the planet.
Speaker 1: In fact, no, this is not one of the rarest
Speaker 1: animals on the planet. It's not even relatively that rare.
Speaker 1: So red foxes come in many different color variation and
Speaker 1: this fox that you're looking at is actually not a
Speaker 1: melanistic fox technically, even though the difference in coat, like
Speaker 1: it's all, it's all kind of related in terms of um.
Speaker 1: You have these mutations in terms of pigmentation, and melanism
Speaker 1: is just like one form of that, kind of like
Speaker 1: how we talked about with tire the zebra. You know,
Speaker 1: she is not completely melanistic, but she has this mutation
Speaker 1: that affects her stripe size and stuff. So they're they're
Speaker 1: all sorts of things that can impact of the coloration
Speaker 1: of a furry coat. And red foxes have so many
Speaker 1: beautiful variations. So you have the standard red fox that
Speaker 1: has this rusty red fur and often a white underbelly,
Speaker 1: and they're adorable and lovely. And then you have all
Speaker 1: sorts of other morphs of fox. So you have these
Speaker 1: are sort of the official categories of color morphs for
Speaker 1: red foxes. There's red, silver, gray, cross, black brown, silver,
Speaker 1: said silver, black brown, platinum, amber, and Sam's and and
Speaker 1: that one actually refers to not just like a sort
Speaker 1: of like tannish color, but it's like a wooly thin pelt.
Speaker 1: But there's many other mutations as well. So, um, first,
Speaker 1: let's talk about what a melanistic fox and actually melt.
Speaker 1: First of all, melanistic foxes are not one of the
Speaker 1: rarest animals in the world. It's not what's pictured here.
Speaker 1: They're actually what are what we know as silver foxes.
Speaker 1: So silver foxes are just melanistic red foxes. A lot
Speaker 1: of people think silver foxes are like a different species. Nope,
Speaker 1: just different phenotype of our regular red foxes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think of a silver foxes being a handsome I see,
Speaker 1: like an Anderson Cooper type. I'm pretty sure silver foxes.
Speaker 1: Mr Big on sex in the city, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Please continue with your actor, Ted Danson, Ted dancing absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Cody, are we objectifying in not enough. So.
Speaker 1: Silver foxes have been hunted and bred for their pelts
Speaker 1: for a long long time. Sadly they're used in furs.
Speaker 1: They're also famous in as they are part of the
Speaker 1: Russian domestication study that was done using silver foxes to
Speaker 1: see if they could make foxes tame over a few generations.
Speaker 1: And this study actually did show that they could make
Speaker 1: these tame foxes, although often the results of the study
Speaker 1: have been kind of exaggerated, saying like it took a
Speaker 1: much shorter time than it actually did, like saying, oh,
Speaker 1: it just took like a couple of generations, Like no, no,
Speaker 1: it actually took a few decades to have these more
Speaker 1: more tame quote unquote domesticated foxes. Um, but yeah they are.
Speaker 1: It's all the same species of fox. It's the red fox.
Speaker 1: So you can have fox siblings in theory where you
Speaker 1: have like, you know, one fox that has the red
Speaker 1: fox coloration and then one that is melanistic or litters
Speaker 1: of puppies and stuff. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The fox that
Speaker 1: is in this viral photo is actually not a melanistic fox,
Speaker 1: but what would be considered a cross fox. And they
Speaker 1: are beautiful, but they're not that uncommon in North America,
Speaker 1: and they're also found in Europe, so they're like they're
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're super super common, but like they're
Speaker 1: relatively common. You can find them. You can find them around,
Speaker 1: you know, check under your couch cushions you might find one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they they are beautiful. A truly rare fox
Speaker 1: would be an albino fox. So albino animals are super
Speaker 1: rare because they really struggle to survive because of how
Speaker 1: visible they are, So spotting an albino fox would be
Speaker 1: a very special event. But yeah, it's it's interesting to
Speaker 1: see these photos spread online. I don't know where they
Speaker 1: got the idea that, Like, God, I did you google albino? Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: little pink noses. They're smiling, they're so happy, stretching, you're stretch.
Speaker 1: They're just happy to be alive. They're like, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be alive, but I am so second. Hey, oh god,
Speaker 1: I scrolled down and found one dead. Oh jeez, why
Speaker 1: did I do that? Don't tell us that I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I was the guy holding it up. Oh, they're so
Speaker 1: cute though, I love foxes. They're very cute, cute. We
Speaker 1: interested in a domesticated fox, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I'm like, oh God.
Speaker 1: Part of me was like they probably wouldn't make good pets,
Speaker 1: but then part of me was like, well maybe, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe over time I've seen people people have foxes.
Speaker 1: Now they just have to like you have to make
Speaker 1: like enclosures in your backyard with like knitting because they're
Speaker 1: so wild. If if domesticated foxes happen, and it makes
Speaker 1: fox for unpopular because it becomes a kind of like
Speaker 1: dog for cruel Deville style thing, like you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it's a positive change. So are you
Speaker 1: saying we should domesticate every animal domestic We have to
Speaker 1: make every animal a pet, I think because we do
Speaker 1: eat a lot of domesticated animals. Yeah, we've got to
Speaker 1: make them all pets. And then what are we going
Speaker 1: to do? So now let's talk about what is claimed
Speaker 1: to be a real life unicorn and a puppy and
Speaker 1: a Golden Retriever. So you guys, was a Golden Retriever
Speaker 1: puppy born with a unicorn horn on its head? Okay,
Speaker 1: I know this one. This is a tail on the
Speaker 1: puppy's head. Well, yeah, if it's anything, it's a tail
Speaker 1: in the puppy's head, right, Like I mean, I saw this.
Speaker 1: It's a tail. It's a tail. The photo is of Narwhale,
Speaker 1: the Golden Retriever puppy with an extra tail like growth
Speaker 1: coming out of its head like a unicorn horn. Is
Speaker 1: that tail? Wag? It does not, because Katie, it's actually
Speaker 1: not a tail. It's a sorr. It's a unicorn horn.
Speaker 1: It is not a horn. It's not a tail. It
Speaker 1: is just a magical little blob flesh. Right, it's like
Speaker 1: a little growth, right, little growth. It's not it is
Speaker 1: not malignant, but it's not an actual tail. They actually
Speaker 1: did an X ray of the little puppy and they
Speaker 1: found that it has no vertebra or anything really in it.
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of furry skin that looks like
Speaker 1: a tail, and it doesn't appear to cause the dog
Speaker 1: any discomfort or any problems, so they have no reason
Speaker 1: to remove it because it's a dormal puppy. I find
Speaker 1: it hard, but yeah, you don't. It's beautiful as is.
Speaker 1: You don't need to remove it, but it is. I
Speaker 1: find it great. I find it great. I want to
Speaker 1: pet it, you want to scratch it. I wonder if
Speaker 1: that thing will keep growing as it grows. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I would suspect it's probably not going to
Speaker 1: if it's just kind of a fold of extra skin.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's hard hard to say. They're going
Speaker 1: to monitor it and if anything suspicious happens, like they'll
Speaker 1: probably remove it at that point. But until it presents
Speaker 1: any problems, they're just gonna let them be a little unicorns,
Speaker 1: like starting to grant people wishes and stuff. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't trust that puppy anymore. There's just like a bunch
Speaker 1: of like butts walking around, like butts attached to peanut butter,
Speaker 1: attached to like socks, and it's like, what is like
Speaker 1: there's he's just like floating butts with like peanut butter.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that is the magical magic of the unicorn puppy. Well,
Speaker 1: he he doesn't understand what you're asking. You're like, I
Speaker 1: wish for world peace, and then he turns you into
Speaker 1: a giant jar of peanut butter, right right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this would cause dog piece dogs among dogs. I mean, technically,
Speaker 1: if we're all giant jars of peanut butter getting licked
Speaker 1: up by dogs. That would be peaceful, it would be
Speaker 1: could be no conflict because like a dog allergy. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think peanut butter jars can have dog allergies.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So what's interesting is so having an extra
Speaker 1: tail growing out of your forehead kind of defies anatomy.
Speaker 1: Now I don't think people are dumb for thinking that,
Speaker 1: because when I first saw this, I was like, that's
Speaker 1: a tail, Like, how is it growing out of there? Well, also,
Speaker 1: that's how it was presented, right, That's how it's presented
Speaker 1: in Like I think I saw that headline a few times.
Speaker 1: It was like extra tail growing out of forehead, and
Speaker 1: it certainly looks like one. But here's why that's kind
Speaker 1: of less likely than just a growth or some extra skin.
Speaker 1: Is that so the tail is basically an extension of
Speaker 1: the spine in the caudle region, so that's like near
Speaker 1: near the but um, So if you were to have
Speaker 1: an extra tail, that's it's probably gonna be in the
Speaker 1: butt area. Just like with extra limbs or polydactyli m
Speaker 1: extra fingers, they usually grow where the other stuff grows.
Speaker 1: So like when you have an extra finger, it doesn't
Speaker 1: pop up like on your forehead, it pops up on
Speaker 1: your hand, because that's like you think about, like as
Speaker 1: developing embryo, as these cells are branching off and growing
Speaker 1: into these things, Like the most likely thing to happen
Speaker 1: is that you have this abnormal cell growth in the
Speaker 1: region that it's supposed to be with extra tails, you
Speaker 1: can't actually get that. So like humans can very rarely
Speaker 1: grow a quote extra tail, which would just be one
Speaker 1: tail because we don't have tails, which is mutation in
Speaker 1: the spine that causes it to grow extra vertebra down
Speaker 1: near the butt area. And lizards can actually grow extra
Speaker 1: tails out of their tails, so their tail looks like
Speaker 1: this weird branch thing from some kind of horror story
Speaker 1: or or fable, but which So in this case it
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense because lizards are at a higher
Speaker 1: risk of mutation in their tail because they regenerate their tail,
Speaker 1: So having that regeneration also means they're probably at a
Speaker 1: higher risk of, like you know, having these this extra
Speaker 1: tail growth. So that's it's very interesting. But yes, in
Speaker 1: this case, it's just a plain all unicorn puppy, nothing
Speaker 1: strange about it. Very very helpful, very magical, very sweet,
Speaker 1: very sweet, magical, very sweet face. Look at that, I
Speaker 1: would wish to give it belly rubs forever. There are
Speaker 1: a few real life unicorns, at least if you brought
Speaker 1: in the definition to a one horned animal. There's the rhinoceros,
Speaker 1: who has a single horn that is made of keratin,
Speaker 1: the same stuff that is in your fingernails. There's the narwhale,
Speaker 1: whose horn is really just an over grown tooths and chameleons,
Speaker 1: some species of which have a single horn and others
Speaker 1: have up to three horns, so like a tricorn. As
Speaker 1: far as I know, none of the animals can grant
Speaker 1: you wishes, but their horns ave important purposes. Rhino horns
Speaker 1: are used in contests for defense and to attract females.
Speaker 1: Narwhale horns are highly sensitive and can detect water salinity,
Speaker 1: and chameleon horns are used to combat rivals in mating.
Speaker 1: So that's enough horning us for one episode. When we return,
Speaker 1: we're going to find out if animals are just like us.
Speaker 1: It's easy to anthropomorphize animals, that is, to attribute human
Speaker 1: characteristics to animals. One of the biggest questions of animal
Speaker 1: behavioral research is why animals do the things they do,
Speaker 1: and whether we as humans can understand it with our
Speaker 1: human brains. This topic is incredibly complex, So of course
Speaker 1: we're going to start with a video of a seal
Speaker 1: rocking on its tummy in front of a cat. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about something where often when we
Speaker 1: see animals do a behavior, we assume they're doing that
Speaker 1: behavior because they are just like us. And sometimes we
Speaker 1: assume that they can't be anything like us, so there
Speaker 1: must be some very cold logical reason that they're doing
Speaker 1: this behavior, and so there's often you know, the truth
Speaker 1: is often much more complex than either either of those views.
Speaker 1: So I first one, sorry, this video is just so funny.
Speaker 1: There is a video making the rounds. It's going around
Speaker 1: on Twitter, is getting the retweets and the likes. It
Speaker 1: is a seal, Yes, it is a seal that looks
Speaker 1: like it is trying to impress a cat by rocking
Speaker 1: back and forth on its tummy like he's doing in
Speaker 1: the worm and the cat looks really unimpressed. So we're
Speaker 1: supposed to decide if we think the seal is trying
Speaker 1: to impress. Yeah, so this is I won't I won't
Speaker 1: be coy about it. This is a real video. What
Speaker 1: do you think because like the caption on the videos
Speaker 1: like this seal is trying to impress the cat, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think is gets trying to impress the cat.
Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that it's it's it's worried
Speaker 1: about the cat some reaction or maybe that's part of
Speaker 1: it wants to eat the cat. I don't know, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I would my guess would be that it's just
Speaker 1: being a seal in the seal and where that happens
Speaker 1: to be a cat nearby, Like it's just it's just
Speaker 1: doing this little seal thing. It's like bopping along. Look
Speaker 1: at me, I'm a see saw a seal Hong Kong,
Speaker 1: I'm the dog of the sea. And the cat nearby.
Speaker 1: It looks like the seal is looking the cat. But
Speaker 1: that's also the same angle as the video that's being taken.
Speaker 1: So maybe he's stunted camera. Maybe it's stunting for the camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is I think this is a harbor seal.
Speaker 1: I'm not like a seal identification expert, but I believe
Speaker 1: this is a harbor seal just based on it's roundness
Speaker 1: and it's got sort of the cream colored belly with
Speaker 1: the spots and then the darker back. But I mean
Speaker 1: it could I guess it could also be a spotted
Speaker 1: seal or a gray seal, but I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: harbor seal. And this is a behavior that apparently a
Speaker 1: lot of seals do, many species of seals um and
Speaker 1: so I think you guys are definitely on the right track. Now,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be me guessing because I don't I
Speaker 1: can't mind what the seal. Oh, I see, I'm not
Speaker 1: a seal minder reader that only works on birds, Cody only,
Speaker 1: my powers only work on birds I read. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: being I'm being I'm calling you out, but I already
Speaker 1: read the creature feature lore. My mind control powers only
Speaker 1: were converted. But yeah, the seals do do this thing
Speaker 1: where they like kind of rock back and forth, and
Speaker 1: the most likely thing that it's doing is trying to
Speaker 1: get comfortable. So this is a behavior they do, like
Speaker 1: kind of like right before they're about to lounge on
Speaker 1: a nice sunny, sandy beach. So their bodies are surrounded
Speaker 1: by a thick layer of protective blubber. So imagine that
Speaker 1: you live inside a thick sleeping bag with just your
Speaker 1: hand poking out and you're a seal, now, congratulations, And
Speaker 1: if you want to adjust to get comfortable, you can't
Speaker 1: just like you know, I don't know, like move your
Speaker 1: legs around or something. You're gonna have to kind of
Speaker 1: like rock in order to get into the perfect position.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, that is probably what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: just like rocking to get comfortable or I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's fun, like it's workout right, he's doing the worm
Speaker 1: because it's fun. Like if I was a seal, would
Speaker 1: I be rocking and rolling around just blurping around? Of course? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: All right, that's like the seal thing. Like seals are fun.
Speaker 1: They have fun. They just pop around, the boop around.
Speaker 1: They're like they're boopers and their poppers. Yeah, like somebody
Speaker 1: brought a cat to the bhoop and pop party, right exactly.
Speaker 1: You've got like seal a baldon going, always be booping,
Speaker 1: always be blurry, chill ca yeah yeah, um I love chill.
Speaker 1: Cats like animals. Yeah, cats just like harbor seal rolling
Speaker 1: around behind me? What's new? You know, I don't care.
Speaker 1: You think I have a care to give. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe I had him at one point.
Speaker 1: But there, look over there, is that my pile of
Speaker 1: cares that I have? Oh, it's nothing. It's nothing because
Speaker 1: I don't have one of those. Because I don't have
Speaker 1: any cares have a pile of cares. I'm like you humans,
Speaker 1: because I'm a cat and I I don't care. So
Speaker 1: next up is crocodile tears, tears of the crocod sorry um. So,
Speaker 1: crocodile tears is an old saying that means, you know,
Speaker 1: basically insincere tears due to the fact that crocodiles seem
Speaker 1: to cry while feeding. So why do crocodiles cry? Do
Speaker 1: they feel sad? Are they mocking their prey? Um? There's
Speaker 1: even versions of this folklore where the crocodile feigns injury
Speaker 1: or distressed to lure prey towards it. So this is
Speaker 1: a quote from the oldie writer Edward topsail Um, who wrote,
Speaker 1: there are not many brute beasts that can weep, but
Speaker 1: such is the nature of the crocodile that to get
Speaker 1: a man within his danger, he will saw up, sigh
Speaker 1: and weep as though he were an extremity. But suddenly
Speaker 1: he destroyeth him. This is how is it something? To do.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, maybe feigning being injured to lure prey.
Speaker 1: I can see that being a tactic. But the tears,
Speaker 1: it feels like the eyes are watering or something some like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's like maybe he's allergic to his food.
Speaker 1: Like well, because they're feeding, so like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like it's a lot of work to be done, right,
Speaker 1: don't they have like a lot like chomping, a lot
Speaker 1: of chomping, a lot of a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of jaw work. Yeah, um, I imagine the amber. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually have no like even like feigned educated guests
Speaker 1: for this. I mean, that's pretty good though. You're both
Speaker 1: very much on the right track with this so obvious sleep.
Speaker 1: The crocodiles not crying because it's sad or because it's
Speaker 1: mocking the food. I mean, obviously crocodiles don't have feelings. No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. They do have feelings. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a dinosaur, all right, it's a it's a it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a loser. It's a loser. They are not dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: They lived amongst the dinosaurs, but they are not dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: They share a common ancestor with the dinosaurs. But Cody,
Speaker 1: it's not a dinosaur. Well we are too, then, because
Speaker 1: we share a common ancestor with the dinosaurs. Look, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to insult birds. Okay, stop in sulting birch.
Speaker 1: You know that hurts my feelings, as I mean as
Speaker 1: a as a human, not a bunch of birds fluttering
Speaker 1: around in a skin suit. Now. But researchers actually looked
Speaker 1: into this question, because of course they did, and they
Speaker 1: find that crocodiles do actually weep or cry while eating,
Speaker 1: and like you guys, very smartly gifted, it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with emotions or feigning emotions. Crocodiles form tears
Speaker 1: in their eyes to lubricate their eyes and cleanse them
Speaker 1: and then also to get rid of extra salt water
Speaker 1: that they consume with their food. But the reason that
Speaker 1: they cry while eating is that it may trigger tear
Speaker 1: production just by the sheer force of air through their
Speaker 1: sinuses as they chop down, which triggers the tear gland. So, Cody,
Speaker 1: you're really on the right track with the yeah that
Speaker 1: basically they're doing a lot of chomping and there's like
Speaker 1: all this hot air being forced through their sinuses as
Speaker 1: they're chomping, and then that triggers tear production. It's like
Speaker 1: some sort of Nettie pot getting the food sweats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the meat sweat exactly. I do like the idea that
Speaker 1: they just love the food so much. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is so good tears by the flavor profile this dead
Speaker 1: baby water buffalo. It's so good, so grateful for this meal.
Speaker 1: In humans, there's actually something called crocodile tears syndrome, also
Speaker 1: known as Bogarad's syndrome, which causes people to cry while
Speaker 1: eating due to a misconnection of nerves that triggers the
Speaker 1: tear ducks while eating. So that's actually interesting that they
Speaker 1: call this crocodile tears syndrome because it is actually somewhat
Speaker 1: similar to what happens with crocodiles when they eat. So yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1: But the idea of an animal feigning distress or feigning
Speaker 1: harmlessness or injury in order to lure and prey is
Speaker 1: not a bad idea. In fact, it does happen. So
Speaker 1: mar Gai cats, which is a small spotted wildcat found
Speaker 1: in Central and South America, will mimic the cry of
Speaker 1: a tamarin, which is a small monkey, and then a
Speaker 1: Tamarin will come over to investigate, like what's wrong, what's
Speaker 1: going on? And then the Margay is like, just deed
Speaker 1: some because it's oh, it's a spooky cat a door.
Speaker 1: Both very cute kidties but very scary and their attactive,
Speaker 1: just like I'm a little baby monkey. Can me I
Speaker 1: have a baby monkey and then just eat you. I
Speaker 1: would want to help the baby monkey if I know,
Speaker 1: and if you were a monkey would get eaten. Sorry
Speaker 1: to say, and this is called aggressive mimicry, when a
Speaker 1: predator pretends to be something harmless to lure and prey.
Speaker 1: It's very fascinating, but that is not what's happening with
Speaker 1: the crocodile. That was such just the idea that it's
Speaker 1: just such a funny idea that someone would see a
Speaker 1: crocodile crying and come over to console the dude was strong.
Speaker 1: Come on, let on me, dude, just like open up
Speaker 1: talking to me. They bite your arm off, let it go.
Speaker 1: It's like I hate it when crocodiles leave those like
Speaker 1: vague status is where it's like feeling down. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: just tell me what's wrong. Use your words. God damn it,
Speaker 1: come on, express yourselves, you know, I do know. So
Speaker 1: onto our final story, which is orangutans washing their hands. Okay,
Speaker 1: ringutans washing their hands. So there is a video going
Speaker 1: around of an orangutan washing her hands, and the claim
Speaker 1: is that she has learned to wash her hands by
Speaker 1: watching Zookeeper doing it as a response to COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: safety procedures. Basically like, if for an orangutan can learn
Speaker 1: to wash her hands, what's your excuse? People? God, all right,
Speaker 1: sounds so depressed about the idea of an orangutan washing
Speaker 1: her hands. I mean I like that part, but everything
Speaker 1: else you said, it's like, come on, did they not
Speaker 1: wash their hands pre COVID. That's the thing, Katie, is
Speaker 1: they did, And so did you know this they did?
Speaker 1: This is so silly? All right, sorry, go ahead. So, no,
Speaker 1: oranguans didn't suddenly start washing their hands because they saw
Speaker 1: us doing it for COVID. Well, because we also didn't
Speaker 1: just start washing our hands. Yeah, that's an interesting it's
Speaker 1: an interesting observation, Katie, and in the correct one also, um,
Speaker 1: but yes, so that is pretty silly. However, However, this
Speaker 1: video is true and that orangutans do wash their hands,
Speaker 1: and they do do it because they have observed people
Speaker 1: doing it and they copy us and they seem to
Speaker 1: enjoy it. So this is Sandra the orangutan at the
Speaker 1: Center for Great Apes in Wachula, Florida, which is a
Speaker 1: sanctuary for great apes. And she doesn't just wash her hands.
Speaker 1: She washes her toys, she washes her environment. She just
Speaker 1: loves She has her little washing bin and then just
Speaker 1: like washes thing. She loves it. And she probably did
Speaker 1: learn to wash things by copying a human, but she's
Speaker 1: not the only one. And it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with COVID. So in Borneo, wild orangutans who had been
Speaker 1: rescued learned to use soap to wash their hands in
Speaker 1: four arms by watching people. And since then, orangutans that
Speaker 1: were born in the wild who did not grow up
Speaker 1: around humans learned by watching the other orangutans using soap,
Speaker 1: and now they do it too. What they do is
Speaker 1: they go into human territory, steal soap, go back to
Speaker 1: their environment and like sit with each other and wash
Speaker 1: their hands, wash their arms. They'll hold the soap in
Speaker 1: their mouth, they'll like lick their arms, it's like and
Speaker 1: then they'll pass the soap. They share the soap like
Speaker 1: one of the oriantans, like can I cant your bow
Speaker 1: guarding that soap pet. The rule is scrub scrow pass,
Speaker 1: like pass me that soap, and they share it and
Speaker 1: it's like highly social activity. So they're young, learn We
Speaker 1: don't know why they do I mean, they don't need
Speaker 1: to wash their hands. Probably they don't need to. We
Speaker 1: don't know why they do it. It may have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with hygiene. It could just be purely an
Speaker 1: enrichment activity where they are having fun, like because it's
Speaker 1: kind of probably feels nice. It probably feels good. It's
Speaker 1: probably like tastes interesting, like they probably like lick it
Speaker 1: and taste it and then they like get these like
Speaker 1: foamy things on their hands. It's probably like just really
Speaker 1: fun activity. It's probably also really intellectually enriching, where it's
Speaker 1: like you have this bar and then you rub it
Speaker 1: and it turns into turns into foam. That's kind of fascinating.
Speaker 1: So there, and then the bar slowly like slowly get smaller,
Speaker 1: right right, it's really interesting to them, and so it's
Speaker 1: just this like fun group activity. And I think the
Speaker 1: truth of it not that they're just like copying humans
Speaker 1: who are washing their hands more with COVID, but that
Speaker 1: they are just so curious and so intelligent that they're
Speaker 1: going to copy these human activities and then pass it
Speaker 1: on to their young who learned from them, and it's
Speaker 1: become actual ringutan culture amongst this group is so interesting,
Speaker 1: much more interesting than just like oh, look, these these
Speaker 1: orangutans are washing their hands together for yeah, like alone
Speaker 1: together with rangutan go on, like right, Like it's that's
Speaker 1: fascinating and so interesting and like makes you wonder like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well will those orangutans interact with other animals and pass
Speaker 1: that on that part activity on? Like it's just like
Speaker 1: the video right after this auto play is a orangutan
Speaker 1: playing with the saw because it's interesting. Like they're they're
Speaker 1: fascinated by things and what they do in the world,
Speaker 1: and so they're just gonna keep doing that and it's
Speaker 1: going to slowly be introduced into other other of them
Speaker 1: because that's how their minds work. Yeah. I think that's
Speaker 1: why that's why it's so important to realize that no,
Speaker 1: animals aren't just like us, and they don't do things
Speaker 1: for the same reason we do them, but they're not
Speaker 1: completely alien from us. They we do share things like
Speaker 1: curiosity and a desire for play and in a desire
Speaker 1: to learn and culture. But it's just gonna we have
Speaker 1: to come at it from this recognition that they are.
Speaker 1: They have so much capacity for interesting behavior, just like humans.
Speaker 1: But it's we can't just assume that our sort of
Speaker 1: human ideas are going to be the same ones that
Speaker 1: they have. So like, they're probably not washing their hands
Speaker 1: for you know, hygiea's a lot that's nonsense. That's nonsense, um,
Speaker 1: But like that's the common thing that we have with them,
Speaker 1: is the curiosity. It's how they utilize it in the
Speaker 1: context of it. Yeah, but maybe like it could confer
Speaker 1: some hygienic benefit eventually. I don't know, Like I don't
Speaker 1: really know enough about their environment whether there's anything that
Speaker 1: washing their hands would protect them from. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's just so interesting when these behaviors come up.
Speaker 1: So anytime you see something that seems like a little
Speaker 1: bit too simple to be true, always like look into it,
Speaker 1: because I can guarantee you there's gonna be something really
Speaker 1: interesting behind it. Kind Of like, um, when I see uh,
Speaker 1: not great dog owners, because a lot I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people get dogs and they think like, well, sit, walk,
Speaker 1: do the do the things that dogs do, like walk
Speaker 1: with me, come on. But like, dogs don't understand that
Speaker 1: they like we like there's a process of teaching them
Speaker 1: how to live in a human world and anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, they're not doing it because of any
Speaker 1: information they have about how the human world works. It's
Speaker 1: this new thing in their world. Yeah, and dogs are
Speaker 1: actually again I keep saying this over and over, they
Speaker 1: are one of my favorite animals because of their long
Speaker 1: evolutionary history with us, and they have learned to read
Speaker 1: our emotions and expressions, and I would have hoped we
Speaker 1: want to have learned to read theirs as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is something where yeah, dogs are actually they're
Speaker 1: not completely alien from us. They share a lot of
Speaker 1: emotions that we have, but we have to understand they
Speaker 1: are coming from dog world. They have different perspectives on things,
Speaker 1: except for unicorn puppy. You of corn puppy is magical
Speaker 1: and all knowing, omniscient puppy. But yeah, it is, it is.
Speaker 1: I think really, I think that understanding it with that
Speaker 1: nuance just makes animals more lovable because it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, no, a shark isn't necessarily going to
Speaker 1: have the same emotions as a human, but it has
Speaker 1: something going on and it's probably really interesting. It's fascinating
Speaker 1: all of it. Yeah, but you're right, we have such
Speaker 1: a tendency as as humans to be like but put
Speaker 1: human motivations behind or you know, like answer it in
Speaker 1: terms that we can understand instead of the far more
Speaker 1: interesting reality is mystery in some cases. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it just takes a little bit of creativity
Speaker 1: to think about a different kind of brain, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like in that sympathy right, like that simp
Speaker 1: the things that we show with other humans too, where
Speaker 1: it's like you've got to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: creativity to see it from someone else's perspective, got to
Speaker 1: have a lot of creativity to see it from an
Speaker 1: animal's perspective, Like why why would somebody wash with soap
Speaker 1: just for fun? Like think about it, right, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: context of their environment, the context of what they do,
Speaker 1: and like where they're where they're at in their evolution. Yeah, yeah, nothing,
Speaker 1: the things that don't happen in a human vacuum. Right,
Speaker 1: We're not Yeah, yeah, we're not. You know, we're not
Speaker 1: the only animals on this planet. It's my it's my tagline.
Speaker 1: Do you like now that's true? That's true. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean at that point there will be no I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get into that. Someday. Maybe it's a fun
Speaker 1: podcast here, it's a fun podcast. Yeah. But thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much for joining me. This was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. You guys are such good sports trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the truth and very smart internet sleuths. Do
Speaker 1: you guys have anything to plug? Yeah? Always. First off,
Speaker 1: thank you for inviting us, um, but yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: can check us out for non animal content, mostly some
Speaker 1: animal content sometimes UM on the Internet, that trustworthy place
Speaker 1: we we co host. Cody and I both co host
Speaker 1: two podcasts, One's Worst Year Ever with Robert Evans uh
Speaker 1: and the other is even More News, which is kind
Speaker 1: of a companion podcast to our YouTube show, which Quody
Speaker 1: will explain. It's called some More News. It's a white man,
Speaker 1: white man behind a desk, wearing a tie, talk about
Speaker 1: the news, wearing in quotations because I don't know that
Speaker 1: that tie is making much contact with your body anymore,
Speaker 1: hanging off off the butt and tie sort of incidentally
Speaker 1: float down there. There's a tie in the picture, it's
Speaker 1: definitely there. Um. And if you're a fan of Katie Golden,
Speaker 1: not Katie the one speaking well, which assuming you are sure,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, in definitely want to
Speaker 1: check out some our news because Katie does a lot
Speaker 1: of writing for us. That's true this week on our
Speaker 1: episode yeah project Yeah, it's fun. I politics sometimes, which
Speaker 1: is on the politics dabble, I dabble in the politics.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested in in animals, including the politicians. If
Speaker 1: you don't in the White House, oh burn burn just
Speaker 1: a like, actually I didn't lose any subscribers the elephants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can check all of that stuff out online.
Speaker 1: Just also, I feel like I insulted Rangutans because the
Speaker 1: president is not curious at all. He's so incurious that
Speaker 1: he would he would look at the soap and be
Speaker 1: like get he Oh my god. President Orangutan would have
Speaker 1: handled COVID better than Trump because like it would be
Speaker 1: in office and just sitting there and grabbing soap and
Speaker 1: washing it, and everybody'd be like, oh, we should wash
Speaker 1: our hands more like the beaning by example ring it. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you guys, um, you can find us at Creature Feature
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Speaker 1: Birds are great. And I don't say this because I'm
Speaker 1: a bunch of birds humans suit that would be weird. No.
Speaker 1: I just think birds are great and we should all
Speaker 1: listen to them as humans and obey them. Let's fellow,
Speaker 1: fellow humans, we should obey birds. They're pretty cool fell humans.
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