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Speaker 5: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shashey. I am
Speaker 5: your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the re priduct Club Shashey.
Speaker 5: The guy that's stopping by for conversation on a drink
Speaker 5: today is one of the most influential figures in the
Speaker 5: music industry. He's a Grammy nominated songwriter, a multi platinum
Speaker 5: chart topping rap superstar. He's been a part of forty
Speaker 5: gold in platinum certified records, A style I con and
Speaker 5: a trend center, A successful entrepreneur, an investor, actor, entertainer, musician,
Speaker 5: one of the culture's biggest titans. He's globally known and
Speaker 5: a fan favorite. And his father said, how was that
Speaker 5: intro broke? Did I do you right? I was playing?
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 5: I rolled the cart for me. Okay, I did that?
Speaker 5: Check this out, man, you know you hear. Thanks for
Speaker 5: coming to the club. I got my own cognac and
Speaker 5: the start of your little tour, your tour, big tour
Speaker 5: and new album.
Speaker 1: New album set it off?
Speaker 2: Is that the dollar?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, damn you took it to the head like
Speaker 1: that cook or it's smooth. I gotta go and get
Speaker 1: it down there now.
Speaker 5: I thought we were gonna saimp throughout the throughout throughout
Speaker 5: this wenna.
Speaker 1: How we're gonna se up? You don't take it the
Speaker 1: third one. You gotta go and take today real quick.
Speaker 5: Just get it anybody, Okay, Then we're gonna get your
Speaker 5: number him you know, yeah, Lee, I mean I ain't
Speaker 5: never had nobody to do it like that.
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I ain't gonna do it like me.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do it like me.
Speaker 5: Okay, check this out. This is what I want to
Speaker 5: get to. Thanks for stopping by the club. You're set
Speaker 5: to start your first headline tour solo. Yes, sir, what's
Speaker 5: the excitement?
Speaker 2: What's going through your mind?
Speaker 5: Because normally you're with your you're with the me goals,
Speaker 5: but now you're gonna do your own thing.
Speaker 1: It's different for sure. Everything I'm super hands on with everything.
Speaker 1: I'm preparing every single day to rehearsals, eight hour rehearsals.
Speaker 1: I'm locked in. I'm really focused on the production. I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure the production. That's my main thing.
Speaker 1: I like to make sure that my lights is on time.
Speaker 1: I smoke, it's on time. My team were on the
Speaker 1: same page with how to performance goals because that's why
Speaker 1: we put all my heart.
Speaker 5: Into So you say the production, so obviously you're a rapper,
Speaker 5: and normally we don't really think of like production with
Speaker 5: rap now, but that's R and B. We see Unsha
Speaker 5: and Chris Brown, they're singing, they're dancing, But I saw
Speaker 5: a little footage of you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be doing a lot of that. Also.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some moves.
Speaker 3: Now, but it's I tried not to be like everybody else.
Speaker 1: I studied great, you know, James Michael, I studied great,
Speaker 1: so and I just feel like showman ship is missing
Speaker 1: the rap right now. So I'm just trying to up
Speaker 1: the level so we can get back to it and
Speaker 1: get putting the show on for the people instead of
Speaker 1: just you know, having all the good songs be hard,
Speaker 1: but you know, when you ain't really it ain't no
Speaker 1: elements of your show, it's just kind of get repetitive,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm trying to step out the boss.
Speaker 5: You got your start as a backup dance TLC. Whitney Houston,
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown and the music videos. How did that come about?
Speaker 5: Did you audition? Did you know somebody that had that
Speaker 5: were a part of the production with these these other people.
Speaker 1: Na, My mama was driving me in the car one
Speaker 1: day in College Park and it was like a sign
Speaker 1: and she pulled me in, and then when it was
Speaker 1: time to go go, I just went in. I was
Speaker 1: like eight years old, did my thing, and then they
Speaker 1: I stood out and they just was asking like who
Speaker 1: is this kid? And then we was just like we
Speaker 1: just pulled up and I ended up making my MoMA
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. Man what we needed that money too?
Speaker 3: Back then, Yeah, I felt good.
Speaker 1: Then I ain't. I ain't she she she got whoever
Speaker 1: I want. But I just know, like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, three three hundred health.
Speaker 5: Right, So what's what's your fondest memories of that? Because
Speaker 5: obviously you know who they are. You know TLC. That
Speaker 5: was a local group, Whitney Houston was its biggest, the biggest,
Speaker 5: as big as you got. So what was going through
Speaker 5: your mind? You're an eight year old kid. Your mom
Speaker 5: just stopped by, like, Hey, we're gonna go in here
Speaker 5: do your thing? Did you Did she know you could dance?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know it's a little family thing. The whole family knew.
Speaker 1: I just was a little little dance smartfucker when I
Speaker 1: was little, you know what I mean. The most memorable
Speaker 1: thing I remember is just staring at with Houston. Couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that was right there. And then Bobbie Brown came
Speaker 1: out and he was cool and like making us laugh.
Speaker 1: Mike Epps was there, right, and he was funny.
Speaker 3: He was just funny. And then.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a pimp walk that
Speaker 1: we had to do a part of the scene and
Speaker 1: I won, and then Barbi Bron gave me one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: I remember that that was hard.
Speaker 2: Do you keep the hunter that you spent it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: That was gone. We split that now. But there was
Speaker 1: this experience of just being able to see how a
Speaker 1: video sit was ran during that time and how serious
Speaker 1: she took her craft with you and played like with
Speaker 1: the camera angles and everything. She was detailed and on
Speaker 1: every single every dimension of the music video.
Speaker 2: So she was hands on. Is that why you're so
Speaker 2: hands on?
Speaker 5: Because you say, I'm handling every when the smoke's supposed
Speaker 5: to go, the smoke's goal, exactly when it's supposed to go,
Speaker 5: The camera is supposed to be here, is supposed to
Speaker 5: be there.
Speaker 2: Is that why you learned to be hands on? Yes?
Speaker 1: Like looking at the grades because I feel like back
Speaker 1: then they didn't have the same opportunities we had, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So all that counted for and
Speaker 1: then just be taken take like it's art at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. So I take it seriously and
Speaker 1: I just want to always want to make it perfected.
Speaker 2: You know you're a big fan of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 5: What was it about the King of Park that made
Speaker 5: you gravitate towards him?
Speaker 1: His work ethic first and foremost, and like his determination
Speaker 1: to be better than what he was because you know
Speaker 1: he was, and I just felt like it was a
Speaker 1: it was a relevant situation, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: deal with family in the group and just starting to
Speaker 1: go on your own and to grow as an artist.
Speaker 1: And then he I just always know like in the
Speaker 1: history him, he always challenged itself to be better and
Speaker 1: bigger and stronger and just taking the art to another
Speaker 1: level where most people be scared. Like that's like the
Speaker 1: production of my shows. Like I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of artists were rappers. I ain't gonna really do that
Speaker 1: because they might not think it's the coolest thing to do,
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to take it to the next level.
Speaker 5: So you're willing to take risk in your music career
Speaker 5: at this stage of your career. Would you have been
Speaker 5: willing to take these risks earlier in your career had
Speaker 5: you not been established like you are now, Were you been.
Speaker 1: Willing to take those type of risks. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: because I had not doved so far into myself yet
Speaker 1: and believed in myself. When I first came into it,
Speaker 1: it was just like I'm living a dream kind of
Speaker 1: and I ain't really I took it serious, but I
Speaker 1: start as I got older and went through the game,
Speaker 1: I started paying more attention to details and learning the
Speaker 1: art of things. That what made me stand out.
Speaker 5: You reacted to Thriller in the Smooth Criminal in one
Speaker 5: of your music videos. Did you I mean, did you
Speaker 5: understand that? Like the craftsmanship Michael videos? Uh, smooth Criminal,
Speaker 5: the one? What's the one he did with with Janet
Speaker 5: his sister that was way way ahead of his time?
Speaker 2: Right? Is that what made you like? Man? You know what?
Speaker 5: I really want to I kind of I like him.
Speaker 5: I'm a different you know, I'm different. He's pop, You're
Speaker 5: like rap. Is that what made you like really get
Speaker 5: into the music or did you always know you wanted
Speaker 5: to do you always.
Speaker 1: Want to do music? It was like and then I'm
Speaker 1: from Atlanta, so you know, like Gushi and it was
Speaker 1: a big business. It was a big motivation of that too,
Speaker 1: to keep really like But as far as performance entertainment, yes,
Speaker 1: looking at him and like, shoot my own videos because
Speaker 1: I directed all those videos. You're saying to dive into
Speaker 1: that in the film part aspect of it, to put
Speaker 1: the film mixed with the music. I wanted to. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get into that. And I look to him
Speaker 1: as as that because if you do the same thing
Speaker 1: he's saying, like thriller back in the time, Like the
Speaker 1: money he even spent to make the video, there wasn't
Speaker 1: a normal thing, no, And then I don't even think
Speaker 1: they were showing black artists on MTV yet like that.
Speaker 1: So for him to change the game, and then they
Speaker 1: opened the doors for everybody, that's all I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do for this generation.
Speaker 5: They showed him, but it was like at midnight, one
Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning, where everybody was going to bed.
Speaker 5: That's where you had to watch him. So if you
Speaker 5: didn stay up there, then it was old.
Speaker 1: It was old.
Speaker 2: He wasn't getting no pride time watch it.
Speaker 5: So I'm you got a Michael Jackson tattoo, So bro,
Speaker 5: I mean Michael was at Look, I'm olderough to remember
Speaker 5: Mike when he was with the Jackson five And just
Speaker 5: watch him transition to do off the wall, his own
Speaker 5: thing and then here comes Thriller, and then Bad and
Speaker 5: so forth and so on. So was your family did
Speaker 5: your mom listen to Michael Jackson? Who listened to Michael
Speaker 5: Jackson and you're like, man, this dude got my mama.
Speaker 1: Then when I was like four years old, actually, my uncle,
Speaker 1: my uncle Darry and my uncle Vaughan, they had like
Speaker 1: it was around Halloween and they put me in the
Speaker 1: room all dark. I was like four years old. So
Speaker 1: I got put on the mike when I was four
Speaker 1: years and he was playing Thriller and when when I
Speaker 1: came in there, I was trying to do what he
Speaker 1: was doing. It didn't scare me. And then ever since then,
Speaker 1: like my mama and my grandmother, they always play his
Speaker 1: music around right. And then I remember when I was
Speaker 1: probably like ten or nine, I got The Moonwalker. I
Speaker 1: got to know, I got The American Dream on the
Speaker 1: v vhs and I used to have back then. I
Speaker 1: got a picture that I posted before. It's like I
Speaker 1: had a little TV maybe like ten ten inch twelve
Speaker 1: inch and they were sitting on like three books and
Speaker 1: that movie was playing on the back of it.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, because you react, didn't you re enact one
Speaker 5: of his his the three I think it was thriller,
Speaker 5: smooth Criminal Criminal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they actually, I can say this, they actually
Speaker 1: they actually green light and brought me the actual clothes
Speaker 1: that he wore for Smooth Criminal.
Speaker 2: The family really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So because I wanted to connect with them too,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to pay respects too. I ain't want
Speaker 1: to seem like I was just like mimicking, because I
Speaker 1: was just inspired by it, and so I did reach
Speaker 1: out to the family. I don't want the name and stuff,
Speaker 1: because I know they're very private.
Speaker 2: Respect that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm tired.
Speaker 5: That's that's what's up. I'm looking at you, and you're
Speaker 5: making the transition. And we saw a lot of the greats.
Speaker 5: We see Michael within a group, Jackson five transition away,
Speaker 5: we see justin Timberlake and Sink transition away. We see
Speaker 5: Robbie Brown, so forth and so on. Is that the
Speaker 5: direction that off set's head again?
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be the better me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Just trying to be the best men
Speaker 1: to get to the highest level that I can get to.
Speaker 1: And I started, you know, I started, I was grown,
Speaker 1: I'm growing up, and I wanted to get my business
Speaker 1: in order and to understand the business, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be tricked or nothing like that, or be lost in
Speaker 1: the lost in the sauce on what's really going on?
Speaker 1: And like I just dove into me.
Speaker 2: So do you did you? Did you talk to end
Speaker 2: of these?
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously Beyonce probably you know, she started was
Speaker 5: in the group Destiny's Child. Now she's solo, So it's
Speaker 5: Kelly Rowland. Have you talked to end of these people
Speaker 5: that started in the group and branched out and kind
Speaker 5: of do their own go solo?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: Have you talked to anybody or you just like, Hey,
Speaker 5: this is what I want, this is my career. I
Speaker 5: think I know the direction that I want to head
Speaker 5: in and this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: No, I never talked to nobody that might be a
Speaker 1: good idea, though, I ain't never talked to nobody about
Speaker 1: it though.
Speaker 3: Though just with the decision within myself, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And you felt that this was at this time, at
Speaker 5: this time, what's the best the best thing for Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Just building my foundation when I'm playing my seed.
Speaker 5: So what's your take? I mean, obviously Atlanta and there
Speaker 5: are a lot of great groups. You know, you got
Speaker 5: goodie mob, you got out casts, you know the me goals,
Speaker 5: you got a lot of Where would.
Speaker 2: You rank, Where would you rank your group?
Speaker 5: Even if you want to do just Atlanta groups, or
Speaker 5: you want to do nw you want to do NWA,
Speaker 5: whatever the case you may be.
Speaker 1: If I do just Atlanta, I'll give us two because
Speaker 1: I'm respectful. We got you gotta respect outcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They kicked the dough down for us down south. I
Speaker 1: mean when it was a time where we won't even
Speaker 1: accept it. Then if you look at Dre the way
Speaker 1: he was able to like change his whole fashion sense
Speaker 1: and change his whole look and still be cool with
Speaker 1: the same people in hood that he grew up with
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, that mean a lot to me.
Speaker 5: Because you got outcast Wu tang n w A run
Speaker 5: down we go, now we go all the way.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna stay too, because I'm gonna put our
Speaker 1: cast first. I'm gonna put us to i'nna put Wo
Speaker 1: tang rap groups locks. I get them for man, what
Speaker 1: you you you you put n W A way down there.
Speaker 1: I respect n W A and they keep the gates.
Speaker 1: They kids the gate. They kicked the gates off, and
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody in that situation still got some type
Speaker 1: of emotion right now that's still here.
Speaker 2: And but.
Speaker 1: I'm young too, you know what I mean, So.
Speaker 5: You really don't remember a whole lot about n w
Speaker 5: A a whole lot definitely don't remember run dmc no
Speaker 5: for shure, that's my but but I do pay respects.
Speaker 3: I ain't no, I ain't no, like no young head.
Speaker 3: That's like not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 1: They kick them those down for us, even KRS one,
Speaker 1: like they kicked the those down for us when they
Speaker 1: they made it gave us an opportunity to be here
Speaker 1: where we at right now. So you gotta always pay
Speaker 1: the spell now.
Speaker 5: Man Off said, it was really good to see you
Speaker 5: in Quavo perform at the BT Awards in honor of
Speaker 5: a take off.
Speaker 2: What was that moment like for you?
Speaker 1: The moment was special, man. It gave me the cheers,
Speaker 1: It gave me like a boost of life. I spoke
Speaker 1: about it before just cause like a lot of these
Speaker 1: people being away of stuff and don't really be knowing
Speaker 1: what's going on with family, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And family go through us and downs at the end
Speaker 3: of the day.
Speaker 1: When you can get bad with your family and stand
Speaker 1: there and represent the family to the world, it's the
Speaker 1: best feeling in the world.
Speaker 2: It was reporting that Pharreal convince you to do it.
Speaker 5: Was this something that had you had you and Quabo
Speaker 5: actually spoke about possibly doing something together and would you
Speaker 5: collab with him in the future.
Speaker 3: We had yeah, we had sort the answer first question.
Speaker 1: We had spoke about it. And then the closer it
Speaker 1: got to I was in Paris Profashion Week, and so
Speaker 1: the time the time we had to, I had to.
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to leave that same night,
Speaker 1: and luckily God God will and we was able to
Speaker 1: find a flight that same night to get it give
Speaker 1: me up out of there. But I just it wasn't
Speaker 1: a thing where I didn't want to do it. It
Speaker 1: was a thing where I was all the way in
Speaker 1: Paris and and it's all the way in l A
Speaker 1: and I'm right, I'm gonna make that work. And it
Speaker 1: was like the planning of it was a little we
Speaker 1: made it happen like me and made that happen right.
Speaker 1: What you got needed that, we needed that, We needed
Speaker 1: that for each other's and just just just for the
Speaker 1: peace and for the world. Because one thing about even
Speaker 1: though I'm going I'm doing my solo thing, I still
Speaker 1: understand my core Ba saying, I still understand that I'm
Speaker 1: a migo the end of the day, like that's where
Speaker 1: it comes from, That's where that's where my roots is,
Speaker 1: my roots stay, and I'll never turned my back on it.
Speaker 5: So is there is there a chance that you and
Speaker 5: got you and Quaba could do a project again together?
Speaker 1: It's possible.
Speaker 2: I read we take Off.
Speaker 5: Was really a funny guy, fun to be around, fun loving.
Speaker 2: Is there any funny stories you'd like to share about it? Did?
Speaker 2: You can share it with us?
Speaker 1: Funny stories that I could shall with y'all. I only
Speaker 1: want to show my little jewels.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We was making bando a long time ago. We
Speaker 1: was living on the North Side at Mama house. We
Speaker 1: used to have a we had we had took the
Speaker 1: you know, the match from from high school, from school,
Speaker 1: the little blue, little thick match. Yeah, we had took
Speaker 1: that and nailed it to a closet. And when we
Speaker 1: was making bando, I wasn't so confident as a rapper yet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you know, they was
Speaker 1: giving me the game and teaching me how to do stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I mean when Tate came in there, he
Speaker 1: did that, he did the he did the he did
Speaker 1: the Migo flow first the first time I evere we
Speaker 1: ever seen it, and then he was teaching me. And
Speaker 1: then when we was teaching me, I couldn't I couldn't
Speaker 1: get it off my tongue and it was just we
Speaker 1: were just laughing and laughing, and it was just like
Speaker 1: the reason why that's so special is because we had
Speaker 1: never thought that song was gonna blow up. Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We were just some kids trying
Speaker 1: to chasing the dream everybody the neighborhood and not really
Speaker 1: thinking like what y'all doing, But we're really going hard,
Speaker 1: and I just I try to keep all the fun
Speaker 1: memories to keep me going because it's hard.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 5: You got a tattoo of him on your back? What
Speaker 5: are your three what's your favorite tattoos? Obviously the one
Speaker 5: would take off that that's very meaningful because of the
Speaker 5: relationship that you shared with him. So what are your
Speaker 5: three favorite tattoos?
Speaker 1: My three favorite tattoos.
Speaker 2: Would be.
Speaker 1: But it got to be six because I got five kids.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you got So you got five kids, So
Speaker 5: the five kids are your favorite?
Speaker 2: My favorite? Okay, so what's the what's the other favorite?
Speaker 1: My other favorite? My mic tat, I like that, my
Speaker 1: mc tack. My grandmother's name, Sally, you know, from the conscious.
Speaker 1: And the third one would be they shot to say
Speaker 1: that right. The third one would be.
Speaker 3: My mom.
Speaker 1: Yes, my mama, because it ain't gonna lie. When I
Speaker 1: was young, I got tatted up around like fourteen fifteen,
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking I'm cool. I didn't have no meaning.
Speaker 2: Oh she let that.
Speaker 1: Fly, No, she ain't let she ain't let it fly.
Speaker 1: I had, I had. I had sold my Xbox and
Speaker 1: everything to get tato tatted. I wanted to be the
Speaker 1: first one in school with tattoos, and I just was
Speaker 1: getting dumb tattoos, like I got Louis I got LV
Speaker 1: Louis Vuitton, I had Louis tan tattooed for I ever
Speaker 1: own the pep I had I got Uh, I got
Speaker 1: Marvin Marshall. He ain't even my favorite cartoon. You just
Speaker 1: getting tanned for the hell of it. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to be cool to school. Look what that you got?
Speaker 1: Look what that you got?
Speaker 5: So when you when your Mom found out, So how
Speaker 5: did you so obviously you got them in places that no.
Speaker 1: I ain't getting no, no, no. My first was I got
Speaker 1: right here, okay, you know. And then clothes was still
Speaker 1: a little the shirts back there.
Speaker 2: Was still that heh okay, you had you had to
Speaker 2: make tease.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: The first one I get was my mama and my
Speaker 1: grandma name. So when she peeked, I thought they were
Speaker 1: gonna be. I thought they were gonna be the deal
Speaker 1: breaking on fork with not going for that slopp right
Speaker 1: in my by that.
Speaker 3: I was fifteen too, she was tripping.
Speaker 2: So you get a tattoo.
Speaker 5: You wanted to be the cool obviously, Mom and grandma
Speaker 5: what and you try you try to sneak it past, like, hey,
Speaker 5: you know what I got? Mama named my girl, Grandma
Speaker 5: names that they go fly. They're like, boy, don't be
Speaker 5: barking your body up like that.
Speaker 1: That was that mad about that?
Speaker 2: You a big fashion guy?
Speaker 5: When did you? When did you get into fashion? Have
Speaker 5: you always been in the fashion?
Speaker 1: I always been into it. He was at green By, Mama, huh,
Speaker 1: I was in that place. But I was at that place, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? When the Polos was in right.
Speaker 1: I used to risk my life for think. I used
Speaker 1: to risk my life just to be fresh. I'd have
Speaker 1: been chased out the mall still a lot of Macy's.
Speaker 1: And I didn't get caught though, But but but couldn't
Speaker 1: afford certain stuff, like when the Lee by Way was
Speaker 1: in a long long, long time ago. And then I
Speaker 1: would go up to the Mason Store and be like,
Speaker 1: I'll be trying them on. I got two three on them, mom,
Speaker 1: but one day they caught on.
Speaker 2: And then so you take off with them all.
Speaker 1: I take off with him on, get up out of them,
Speaker 1: out of them down Escalator. That's what killed him.
Speaker 2: He come.
Speaker 1: I went down Escalatord obviously way and then you know,
Speaker 1: another black brother helped me out though he was working
Speaker 1: at I think it was harder because you know, by
Speaker 1: a mall, it's a dealership by and I was just
Speaker 1: running through. But I lied to him. I told him
Speaker 1: I was getting jumped. I'm like, man, I'm getting jumped.
Speaker 1: I need to use your phone. And then I called
Speaker 1: my homework to come pick me up. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: used to reach my life, try to get it if
Speaker 1: I If I ain't, we ain't had no money because
Speaker 1: I felt like you know, in school, when you're young,
Speaker 1: you being fly the only thing you really got right,
Speaker 1: unless you like a super athlete in sports.
Speaker 5: So what the flying? This just because of you? Or
Speaker 5: you was trying to attract the honey.
Speaker 3: I was trying to track the honey and it was
Speaker 3: good to me too, though. I just wanted to be flying,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But I was though the honey like that. They like
Speaker 2: they like the gear that you had on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was having it on. See if my senior
Speaker 1: year I got on Gucca and I went best dressed.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying in high school? Oh you want
Speaker 1: best having pattern? You don't having pattern? About the drill?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah that just come. I got the money.
Speaker 5: So so what's your favorite? What's your So you going out?
Speaker 5: Yeah you I'm not talking about it to the Oscars
Speaker 5: or toil the Grammars. You just going out, what's the gear?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throwing a little see I'm mixing it up,
Speaker 1: so I might go a little rick on you, but
Speaker 1: older rick though, Okay, and then I'm gonna go Margeal
Speaker 1: on you because I feel like, ain't nobody really wearing
Speaker 1: the marginala in my lead? They don't really get it
Speaker 1: the language. They don't speak that language. And I like
Speaker 1: a lot of And the thing with me was clothes.
Speaker 1: I like my clothes. The cut is more important than
Speaker 1: the extra designer who's made you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It got it high, It fit my body and high.
Speaker 1: How I put it on it matters. I'm gonna go belt,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I might go double belt outside the loops.
Speaker 1: I'm giving these keys. Now, y'all remember this because you're
Speaker 1: gonna see it now that said it. But yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm inspired by might too, so I might go some days,
Speaker 1: I might go blue jeans and when I sit down,
Speaker 1: you can see the white sock on purpose like I
Speaker 1: got on rick on right now, you know, right. So
Speaker 1: I'm just i'm'a just play around with it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play around. I ain't gonna never I ain't gonna never
Speaker 1: go mannequin. I feel like a lot of people go mannequin.
Speaker 1: They go, I'm gonna go Gucci, and I'm gonna go Gucci.
Speaker 1: G I'm gonna go Belinicaya and I'm wet already down.
Speaker 1: I really gonna do that. I like to switch it
Speaker 1: up so you could kind of like cause in the
Speaker 1: fashion world, people pay attention to what we call pieces.
Speaker 1: So you want to always have a piece on, which
Speaker 1: means it's like a it's like a rare piece from
Speaker 1: the brand or something that everybody don't got that they
Speaker 1: want it though, but everybody want it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: Well, if it's not if you say pieces, but if
Speaker 5: you ain't got the ensemble on, how do you make
Speaker 5: it flow? So how do you put Balenciyaga with LV
Speaker 5: how do you put you know, I mean with Gucci?
Speaker 2: So how do you make it?
Speaker 1: Because you gotta run away from the prince, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's a fly person.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay away from the Prince. I don't
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to really know. This is that
Speaker 1: you gotta really know when you walk past me, you
Speaker 1: gotta be interfested. And you know what you got on Marjella,
Speaker 1: he got he got J W Anderson T shirt on.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because the out loud to me this country,
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna never wear like the Gucci G
Speaker 1: print or the Louis v Je all the way printed
Speaker 1: up top and bottom out.
Speaker 5: But you will wear a piece Okay, it might be
Speaker 5: a Lewis jacket or a shirt or something, but you're
Speaker 5: not gonna have the lewid pants or the Gucci.
Speaker 1: Match that the bottom man, that's mannequin.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't be in there looking like the little statue that.
Speaker 5: But so if you were to put a piece together,
Speaker 5: you know, like, okay, you got some jeans on and
Speaker 5: you got the blinds Yaga the hoodie.
Speaker 2: So that's what would you what would you classify as this?
Speaker 5: This is a cave.
Speaker 1: Look this casual man, you know, this is this casual,
Speaker 1: but it's still stepping because the branch is what it is,
Speaker 1: like chrome. I got a bliss Yaga, and the way
Speaker 1: it fits me like can take a little. It looks
Speaker 1: better than that if you fit somebody else but you.
Speaker 2: And the watchers too. Yeah you, I mean that seemed
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 5: I noticed a lot of guys, I mean klied Drake,
Speaker 5: obviously lebron Hole, a lot of guys in the watches.
Speaker 2: Now when did that trend come about?
Speaker 1: I mean me personally, I started wearing Bustown watches probably
Speaker 1: like in twenty sixteen. I did that because shot at
Speaker 1: by Jewlil Elliott he put me on game. He like, hey,
Speaker 1: look them diamonds because I'm buying from him. He like
Speaker 1: the diamonds you're buying. He like, man, if you can
Speaker 1: get connected to the store anyway, you need to start
Speaker 1: buying watches from them because that hold the value. Because
Speaker 1: he was teaching me about diamonds, the different ones, the
Speaker 1: tricks that Julius play.
Speaker 3: He was giving me the game, and he like, man,
Speaker 3: your watch ain't gonna be worth nothing.
Speaker 1: He like, you rather buy something that's fifty sixty seventy
Speaker 1: thousand and then two three years ago. By now it's
Speaker 1: two fifties. An investment. It's more of an investment piece
Speaker 1: than anything, you know what I'm saying. They go up
Speaker 1: higher in real estate sometimes it does.
Speaker 5: It does so because I like, I mean, you see
Speaker 5: the on the right hand you got you know, you
Speaker 5: ifed out, but on the rig you just got the
Speaker 5: ap rolls.
Speaker 1: And also, this is another thing too about the playing watches.
Speaker 1: It introduced you to people that might wouldn't look your way.
Speaker 1: It definitely introducts your peace because they know, they're like,
Speaker 1: oh is that a protect.
Speaker 3: It's like a solid world. They know what's going on,
Speaker 3: they know what it is they know what's going on,
Speaker 3: and they know.
Speaker 5: You know, if you got a nobbage to everybody, go
Speaker 5: know where the role he is, right, But when you
Speaker 5: start getting to protect, you start getting the aps and
Speaker 5: things of that nature to reach our meeting.
Speaker 1: They're like, really else, really, I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: got a story for that. One time was in Vegs.
Speaker 1: I'm at the crowd table because I don't really go
Speaker 1: to the private room because I feel like the energy
Speaker 1: from the people sometimes make me win, yeah, instead of
Speaker 1: being so sal So I'm at the regular table and
Speaker 1: this white guy come and grab my wrists and say,
Speaker 1: how do you got this watch? And I said, what
Speaker 1: you mean? How I got to watch? He's like, what
Speaker 1: do you know about the watch? It was a it
Speaker 1: was a patent, yeah, fifty nine eighty, the big one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah road.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. Just continue that, mam, now you you talk?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and I'm like, he like, how old are you?
Speaker 1: Made him start asking me my age and everything. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't never. I was twenty eight during the time.
Speaker 1: And he's like that's a great watch man, And it
Speaker 1: didn't offend me like that. They kind of put me
Speaker 1: on game like I know it's kind of offensible, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, it brought attention.
Speaker 3: To somebody who I stand, understand the language, and I
Speaker 3: like to be presented like that.
Speaker 2: To take notles is where it's at.
Speaker 1: That's us to do that.
Speaker 5: You never feel that, So let me ask you this, Yeah,
Speaker 5: outside of real estate, what's the most expensive purchase?
Speaker 1: Most expensive purchase outside of real estate? Mercy expensive purchase
Speaker 1: outside of real estate?
Speaker 3: MM, I can say over time, like over time, I don't.
Speaker 1: I ain't never. I don't think I never spent on
Speaker 1: over on real estate, like I ain't been no dumb
Speaker 1: for and spend no mill dollars on no car stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I ain't.
Speaker 3: I ain't going for that right no matter how much
Speaker 3: I got, is it don't be making sense?
Speaker 1: Like the biggest thing, you know, cars be like three
Speaker 1: four hundred, bought them a couple of times, but.
Speaker 2: You should be good Na tho, what car?
Speaker 5: What car that you you don't have that you feel
Speaker 5: like you gotta get before it's all said and done,
Speaker 5: because I'm sure you've had everything in the color and
Speaker 5: the lambow and the ferraris and you had everything, So
Speaker 5: what is it that OFFSET would like to have that
Speaker 5: he doesn't have.
Speaker 1: As a car.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's so many cars I want.
Speaker 2: I don't want a Bagatti, a face ship. I don't
Speaker 2: want to go God.
Speaker 1: I want to live Ferrario because like Ferrari, I feel
Speaker 1: like the prestigion is of Ferrari.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know they discontinue that, so you have
Speaker 5: to get one on the secondary marketing. You know they
Speaker 5: like times X.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they about like spied men for sure. It's a
Speaker 3: uh but what you're gonna do with it? I'm gonna
Speaker 3: drive it.
Speaker 5: But then now you can't put that many miles on
Speaker 5: the cause then you're gonna decrease the value because I
Speaker 5: know you're gonna want to get up at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know why.
Speaker 1: But see, this is the reason why I ain't dead it.
Speaker 1: Though I could have did I could have I could
Speaker 1: have when him snatched a lot for all up, I
Speaker 1: ain't did that because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's like you're saying, and then one time, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was buying a Rose Roys here in
Speaker 1: LA at the Rose Rose dealership, and then I asked
Speaker 1: you how much boot is he?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Three point six million? It was the nose and the
Speaker 1: chat run and he like, but listen, man, let me
Speaker 1: tell you some real black dude, like, let me tell
Speaker 1: you some real shit.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 1: As soon as you drive off, you lose a million.
Speaker 1: Soon you drive off. He like, you know, if you
Speaker 1: drive a coloring and off, you might lose fifty that
Speaker 1: day right back there. But with this car, you're gonna
Speaker 1: lose a million dollars immediately, just soon you pull off
Speaker 1: the lot.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow.
Speaker 1: He was like, I would never buy that car if
Speaker 1: I was you, and he the dude who's selling me
Speaker 1: the cars.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I listened to that. I pick up on that. So,
Speaker 1: but God is out of the out of I ain't
Speaker 1: done with the money. You gotta have the money put up.
Speaker 1: I ain't done with them. Mo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it ain't how much you make, it's how much
Speaker 5: you keep nowday exactly. You gotta put that up. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna give off set three brands. You can only wear
Speaker 5: three brands for the rest of your life. What you're
Speaker 5: going with, damn for the rest of your life. You
Speaker 5: go three brand only.
Speaker 1: Nike for shore. How you can't lose with Nike forever?
Speaker 3: Only three.
Speaker 1: Yep, I gotta go Nike Jordan's that's the same thing though,
Speaker 1: so I get to a pass on that. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just stay. I'm gonna say, Nikekay, you.
Speaker 2: Go higher in fashion if you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm trying to make sure you talking about forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you.
Speaker 1: That's that's a long time. That's a long time. Some
Speaker 1: of you can't win forether uh a long last thing
Speaker 1: brand and I could work for a long fether Margella okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say, but listen, as long as them
Speaker 1: is still in that, which is the creative director stayed up, fellas, you're.
Speaker 5: Good, Okay, I'm gonna get your choice. AJ one's there
Speaker 5: a f ones, the Jordan one of the Air Force
Speaker 5: one Russ.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me that? And I really collect.
Speaker 2: Shoe man, Yeah, I don't. That's why I'm asking you.
Speaker 1: I gotta your f F one F one for so
Speaker 1: especially like two thousand, two thousand and eight untouchable.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, a F one untouchable Jordan Wance.
Speaker 2: Only.
Speaker 1: The reason why I didn't picked the Jordan Wanes is
Speaker 1: because I like the old I like the retro Jordan Wance.
Speaker 1: I like the eighty five right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the originals, and you can't really find them. I got
Speaker 1: five pair though, but you can't really find them nowhere.
Speaker 2: That's why you can't. You got them all?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got them all. Every time I catch a
Speaker 3: pair on buyding.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you a question. How do you
Speaker 5: get into collecting shoes? Obviously you grew up in the era.
Speaker 5: I mean I grew up in the era where Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan burst onto the scene and get those shoes. But
Speaker 5: we were didn't have the wherewith all the thing like
Speaker 5: we got the shoot we warm, we ain't get to shoot.
Speaker 5: We ain't have no money first of all, to get
Speaker 5: one to rock, one to stop. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 5: money back in eight I was back a lot of
Speaker 5: my time. My mama tell you to shoot. My mama
Speaker 5: ain't buy.
Speaker 1: Me no Jordan. It was too high. So I had
Speaker 1: to get old enough and get to trade in my
Speaker 1: m axes and you know, in school, get to trade
Speaker 1: my air mattress.
Speaker 2: Uh for for some Jay's or do it like that.
Speaker 1: So that's what made me get into it because the
Speaker 1: same thing you said, I couldn't really I couldn't. My
Speaker 1: mama didn't didn't have the money, just be she we
Speaker 1: was on limit three boys's a long time. It was
Speaker 1: just my mama before she met her husband, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I didn't have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: get no jay's. I remember the two for eighty.
Speaker 2: Nine, nine nine for one.
Speaker 3: That was like a lottery for me, black and white
Speaker 3: every school year that was all the.
Speaker 2: One used to be faulted, dollar pair faulted.
Speaker 1: Like I said, for eighty nine special, we're gonna go white.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go black and white, gonna get one on
Speaker 1: special occasion. But yeah, and then at my school, it
Speaker 1: ain't gonna loto at my school to night. By the
Speaker 1: time I got about ninth grade, you know, everybody start
Speaker 1: feeling themselves. Yeah, if you came to my school with
Speaker 1: like fake j's, it was like a known thing in
Speaker 1: my school, Burke my high school. You coming there with
Speaker 1: some fake j It's kind of sad because everybody knew
Speaker 1: the protocol.
Speaker 3: You know, in the morning time, cafeteria, breakfast time, you
Speaker 3: know you coming in, you.
Speaker 2: Gotta come up with it. You gotta be right in
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 1: It's like a protocol. People that don't know your homeboys.
Speaker 1: Whoever them folks gonna put they gonna shit on the arm,
Speaker 1: sit at the table and lift their feet up and
Speaker 1: pointed to shoe. So it was an embarrassment thing. So
Speaker 1: you had to be right stepping. You couldn't come with them,
Speaker 1: fake them food gazers. When did you start collecting shoes?
Speaker 1: When did you say, you know what, I'm bill sneak,
Speaker 1: I'm becoming sneaker head. When did you start? And do
Speaker 1: you wear do you wear your shoes? About alemb Grade?
Speaker 1: When I was able to finish and do stuff to
Speaker 1: get shoes, probably like a lem grade. And if you
Speaker 1: go look at my old pictures, like I was having
Speaker 1: a lip a sixty's on you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I always was having I was having the j's in
Speaker 1: the Polo era when we used to wear cargos and
Speaker 1: Polos and America iguan out that was in you had
Speaker 1: to have the J. So about lem Grade because like
Speaker 1: I said, I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't. From from middle school on up, it was
Speaker 3: it was the same routine.
Speaker 1: F four one.
Speaker 2: When how many pairs of shoes do you think you have?
Speaker 1: Probably like.
Speaker 5: Six thousand, fifty five six thousand. Yeah, yes, sir, do
Speaker 5: you got your do? When you have a damn a room,
Speaker 5: a house, a house for shoes.
Speaker 1: I got multiple walls and I got houses. I got
Speaker 1: house in New York, here in la and Atlanta, so
Speaker 1: they spread it out on East Coast.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite shoe to collect?
Speaker 1: I gotta say.
Speaker 3: Fos One's bro because it's more.
Speaker 1: It's more. Let me tell you why. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you why. Let me tell you why, because it's more.
Speaker 1: It's most selections. It's like it was a lot of
Speaker 1: collapse done with them back then. And the leather on
Speaker 1: the Force one from two thousand, two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: it's just a little different. But my favorite Jordan is
Speaker 1: Jordan sixteens and the forest. But the forest you can
Speaker 1: get with the sixteens. They always ripped, Like my Gingers.
Speaker 1: I got like seven pairs. Every time I wear them.
Speaker 1: One time they're coming out, they ripped because they're old.
Speaker 5: Right, So what's the what's the most expensive pair of
Speaker 5: sneakers that you own?
Speaker 1: Martinmen Flies They're like one hundred thousand, but I didn't
Speaker 1: pay that though their masks, Yeah, Man's the old was
Speaker 1: the one that I got, the one that come on
Speaker 1: that they tie for real, And both of my shoes work,
Speaker 1: and they put up somewhere on ice.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna wear them?
Speaker 1: I pay, I want, I want them to. I wear
Speaker 1: all my shoes. Yeah, I wear all my shoes. I
Speaker 1: believe you ain't no shoe collect that if you don't
Speaker 1: wear the shoe I don't.
Speaker 2: So you ain't gonna try to get up all from then?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Never. And I called him for the sweet twenty five thousand.
Speaker 2: You call him?
Speaker 1: What call him twenty five dude? Here in La. That's
Speaker 1: so staged.
Speaker 3: I think he needed the money and I had it.
Speaker 3: I got the money you need.
Speaker 5: So what's the one thing that you've bought purchased in
Speaker 5: your life that you like? Man, I should have left
Speaker 5: that alone.
Speaker 3: I can say what I it's not a specific purchase.
Speaker 1: It's just like I gave a lot of money away,
Speaker 1: like family friends, loved ones and family friends. But I
Speaker 1: don't regret it though, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: my folks need to help. But like now I'm getting older,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, now you hold that money a little tighter.
Speaker 1: You ain't a cause you know they figure you got
Speaker 1: let you bought a whole five.
Speaker 3: You're like, all I was green at one point, I
Speaker 3: was just giving that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then got to the point where, like you know,
Speaker 1: you get to start seeing your real folks when it
Speaker 1: happened though.
Speaker 5: You get to see who you're because when you don't
Speaker 5: give it to them now, all of a sudden they
Speaker 5: say you acting funny.
Speaker 1: You don't get to him. It's now you're hearing the story. Man,
Speaker 1: bro what they was saying. You be your crabby why
Speaker 1: they gave you all this and this and this and that.
Speaker 1: But I'm a crowd now I'm supposed to be. I
Speaker 1: ain't looked at that disappear and then then I got
Speaker 1: real friends off. I don't want to get it mixed. True,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of my boys from like seventeen years ago,
Speaker 1: we've been we've been friends. It be the folks that
Speaker 1: come like that you meet through through time and you
Speaker 1: and they becoming your boy and now they part of
Speaker 1: the course stoll like that. And then it'd be them
Speaker 1: to be like because my real homites be like they
Speaker 1: won't even ask what I have to ask them out
Speaker 1: because you know your family, your brother, you can see
Speaker 1: it like on your like yeah, you're good, right and.
Speaker 2: Even if they say I'm cool, you know they're not good.
Speaker 2: You know they're not good.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know it.
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful to have that's them type people. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of people like that too, And I
Speaker 1: got homies. It'll be like, hey, stop giving that niggas money.
Speaker 1: Stop giving them money to another bro like to another homie, like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: stop doing that. So I'm good. I got good. I
Speaker 1: got a good sir.
Speaker 5: I always tell people all the time, you got to
Speaker 5: put limits on what you give because takers will never
Speaker 5: put limits.
Speaker 1: On what they take exactly. So free.
Speaker 5: So investing, what's what's some of the tips? I mean,
Speaker 5: what are some of the things that you know you're like, man,
Speaker 5: glad I got in on that. Damn I missed that opportunity.
Speaker 5: So what as far as money, because like you said,
Speaker 5: you come into some money, you get money. You got
Speaker 5: money here, and you're like, it's not how much you make, it's.
Speaker 2: How much you keep.
Speaker 5: Exactly, you can make ten million, but if you give
Speaker 5: a nine nine million, nine hundred thousand away as opposed
Speaker 5: to eight, I got a million and I kept nine
Speaker 5: hundred thousand. So how how does offset go? About delegating
Speaker 5: where the money goes.
Speaker 1: I invested in Phase Clan, I got real estate, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's just I can't say what it is,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't say I have a big investment
Speaker 1: that's on your phone to deal with avatars. And I
Speaker 1: had actually listened to my mama to this. So the
Speaker 1: dude was here in LA in Chinatown and he was
Speaker 1: working out of his his little apartment, and she brought
Speaker 1: me to his apartment and then he needed like two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five thousand dollars. And now now I
Speaker 1: can show you an article where it's like up to
Speaker 1: like seven hundred million. But I don't never talk about
Speaker 1: You're the first person I ever talked to about it's
Speaker 1: an avatar. So it's like, but I'm not allowed to
Speaker 1: really speak on Well you good? You straight?
Speaker 2: Then you sure you want to make music?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I want to make you good.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 1: Later though, See what I learned is everybody investments hit
Speaker 1: around like mid forties, right, Like lecognized with Ring and
Speaker 1: all that, and like even Juicy Jay.
Speaker 2: So I'm cool.
Speaker 1: I know I got some up the river, but as
Speaker 1: of right now, I save a lot of money though
Speaker 1: I got a lot of kids.
Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, you gotta say it's special. I got kid,
Speaker 2: I got kids, still got them. You had kids, I
Speaker 2: got kids. I've been there.
Speaker 1: You already know.
Speaker 5: I know you know.
Speaker 1: And I got two daughters too. You got two weddings coming,
Speaker 1: I got two dogship. I don't want to say I
Speaker 1: ain't ready for them days or them to talk. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about that.
Speaker 5: So obviously the avatar we can't mention about. Let me
Speaker 5: ask you this, what have you learned about the since
Speaker 5: you entered? What have you learned most about the music street?
Speaker 5: Because I always hear his cutthrow they do your band,
Speaker 5: They put you on these deals where they take it
Speaker 5: all the money or you get it advanced and blah
Speaker 5: blah blah.
Speaker 2: So what a offset learned most about the business?
Speaker 1: Knowledge is key and you can't blame You can't blame
Speaker 1: the system because the system gonna keep going. So what
Speaker 1: you gotta do is, like I did, you gotta adjust
Speaker 1: to the system, get to learning what ask questions like
Speaker 1: I'm asking questions. I don't want you to before you
Speaker 1: give me the money, I'm gonna ask you what you
Speaker 1: what I gotta give you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: See, because at first when I first came in the game,
Speaker 1: Well you got two million for me man running publish,
Speaker 1: you got five millions running not really reading the terns,
Speaker 1: not really understanding. And then your lawyer ain't gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: Your lawyer gonna tell you what you gotta do. But
Speaker 1: I feel like if you deal with your lawyer, like
Speaker 1: I talk to my lawyer to day to day, well
Speaker 1: I'm asking questions and he know, like, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: this question, and I need you to break it down
Speaker 1: into a way that I can understand, so I understand
Speaker 1: what I'm signing up to because I've been a dumb
Speaker 1: artis before.
Speaker 3: Just sign and shit, just get because they get you
Speaker 3: with the money. You gotta thank you.
Speaker 1: Twenty years old, these folks like, look, you got a
Speaker 1: hot song, let me give you a two million dollars.
Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna own you. And then you got
Speaker 1: five albums, but then soon the album come out. Most
Speaker 1: people don't know when your album come out. You at
Speaker 1: an artist's level like me, Man, your first month, they
Speaker 1: done made two three million, But it ain't your cut,
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't your money, and it's not counting
Speaker 1: to your recruitment. But on what they own that then
Speaker 1: recoup the two three million, and they still got you
Speaker 1: in three million dollars that and quarterly counting it down
Speaker 1: and they still got to spend the money to get so.
Speaker 1: But at the same time they make an investment. So
Speaker 1: you gotta understand the business terms and understand that business.
Speaker 1: These folks need to make the money so and they
Speaker 1: giving you a lot of money, but you also got
Speaker 1: to learn like, okay, cool, what are my deliverables for
Speaker 1: this money? What's the time limit on this? On the deliverables?
Speaker 1: And then me, I love my label, car work, my Lebel,
Speaker 1: Capitol Records, I work with. I'm gonna go to the office.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down in politic if I got a complaint,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to be like an asshole about it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get away to figure out the game.
Speaker 1: How can I politics better? How can I rub shoulders
Speaker 1: so this person can know because a lot of time
Speaker 1: we blame the label, but we ain't really gave them
Speaker 1: no type of information. We just turn our eyebum and
Speaker 1: like make this go. And it don't work like that.
Speaker 1: It's a whole process to everything. So did you learn
Speaker 1: do you have to learn the hard way. These lessons, yes,
Speaker 1: had a lot of hardway for shore man, like being
Speaker 1: trapped in deals or be being signed signed into one deal,
Speaker 1: like not owning not on all my rights now, but
Speaker 1: like not owning your rights to your music.
Speaker 2: All that is like you controlled help help me out
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 5: Okay, there's ownership, there's masters, and there's publishing. All those
Speaker 5: are the same thing. Well, you said there's ownership, Let
Speaker 5: mess your question. So is publishing and masters? Is that
Speaker 5: the same thing or two different things? That's okay?
Speaker 1: So you own the publisher, my masters you don't, or
Speaker 1: the percentage of my managers?
Speaker 2: Hunter, are you gonna try to get them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to, you know, but you gotta just contribute.
Speaker 1: You gotta, like I just said, you gotta finish your deliverables.
Speaker 1: So say, for answer, you get signed, they sign you
Speaker 1: three million dollars five albums, but your album turn might
Speaker 1: say you can't drop an album for nine to twelve months,
Speaker 1: So we do the math. That's some years, that's years,
Speaker 1: four years, four or five years, maybe get six years.
Speaker 1: Because the average artists ain't just finish drop no album
Speaker 1: exactly on the nine months. So it's still gonna be
Speaker 1: a stretch you're creating, and then why that time while
Speaker 1: that's going on, they still gotta spend the money into you,
Speaker 1: so it's doubling down. So it's like most artists, you
Speaker 1: don't see no check from the label, but the one
Speaker 1: that you sign, that's it. That's it. Now publishing gonna
Speaker 1: go the publish. That's what publishing come in. They gonna
Speaker 1: go see where all your musicment licensed, get all the licenses.
Speaker 1: You can recoup through streams and all that, but it
Speaker 1: be pennies to a dollar, so it might so instead
Speaker 1: like for me, my publisher, I have an admin deal
Speaker 1: where we are in an agreement that you will go
Speaker 1: get my stuff. I'll get your piece, hud, but I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna put it out on your hand and you
Speaker 1: can go grab everything. Then I get the CRuMs because
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be left in the deal forever. So
Speaker 1: the purpose is that is to recoup and renew every
Speaker 1: time every two every two three years, you renewing without
Speaker 1: having to drop a project. Because you know, with catalog,
Speaker 1: I got a long catalog with migos and my solo stuff.
Speaker 1: It recoups like I'm finna go re up now right.
Speaker 1: I'm finna reup soon after this album.
Speaker 5: So the streaming, because I've heard some people say streaming
Speaker 5: ain't no money.
Speaker 2: Then I didn't talk to twenty one Savage.
Speaker 5: Savage says, yeah, Hey, they cut meal check every month,
Speaker 5: so they gotta be some money in it.
Speaker 2: What's your take on what's your take on streaming?
Speaker 1: I get cut a checked too. Streaming is it's not
Speaker 1: for everybody, Like I ain't gonna like Savage gotta he
Speaker 1: did it right, like you get hot first, you get
Speaker 1: a risk, you go. He went platinum before he was
Speaker 1: signed to anything, so he got his master's everything. But
Speaker 1: that don't be that's like he like a ten percent
Speaker 1: be like a timber Center with his situation. Okay, but
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but it's most artists streaming ain't nothing,
Speaker 1: but like U to me, I'm gonna say it's a
Speaker 1: hype thing because you get you get sound, the stage money.
Speaker 1: But like you might have all these beings and streams,
Speaker 1: they ain't finish registered to to that. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be getting no check like that all the time because
Speaker 1: it's that check is going to the label for signing you.
Speaker 2: Right, So if you let's just say they.
Speaker 3: Own the rights, they own the masters, they own the posting.
Speaker 5: So oh so in order for you to get that
Speaker 5: the billion stream, for it to hit your pocket, you
Speaker 5: need to own the publisher, the catalog and all that
Speaker 5: other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it see, it's two, it's it's two things
Speaker 1: for that. See, I don't wanna talk to political all right.
Speaker 1: Fens is like some folks that just be hard headed.
Speaker 1: You gotta give you gotta get with them folks a
Speaker 1: little bit because they're still a machine, like the label
Speaker 1: is still a machine. Sure, I'll never tell nobody to
Speaker 1: be just straight independent, even though people say it all
Speaker 1: the time. But it's like, you gotta have you already,
Speaker 1: gotta have some money put to the side before you
Speaker 1: just say I'm gonna be an independent artist straightforward. I'd
Speaker 1: rather be with a machine because the partnership and I
Speaker 1: sell music, and my music sales.
Speaker 5: Right because they're gonna push it, they're gonna help push
Speaker 5: it out there. And you because basically you you're spending
Speaker 5: their money making money. Yeah, but you have but you
Speaker 5: have to position yourself right though, off set because.
Speaker 1: Leverage too, like but you gotta you gotta, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta not take the money upfront. Like if I'm
Speaker 1: talking to a new artist, I'm gonna tell him, like listen,
Speaker 1: Billzo buzzz up to the highest peak that they can
Speaker 1: get you. And if you can't get past that peak,
Speaker 1: then you get with them, folks, because then you got
Speaker 1: marketing and branding, which we don't be knowing a lot about.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But be smart. But like if,
Speaker 1: like I said with Salva, he leveraged yourself great because
Speaker 1: he put he got hot, he went platinum, he had
Speaker 1: already sold a million copies before a label he signed
Speaker 1: to a label. So now that's leverage. Like I just said,
Speaker 1: you get leveraged. Now you can walk in down the
Speaker 1: table what you want. Hey, look man, I want my masters.
Speaker 1: I want this, this, this, and even if you get
Speaker 1: it masters, I'm only giving you ten percent and then
Speaker 1: you in the great position. But most artists ain't like that.
Speaker 1: So what I recommend the most artists is, like in
Speaker 1: steals right now, is figure out your deliverables, your albums,
Speaker 1: pay attention to them time spans, and you dropping them albums.
Speaker 1: We'll try to if you get if you get so
Speaker 1: say you drop an album and it was your first
Speaker 1: buzz album, that second album, do better notice than that
Speaker 1: buzz album. Then start to try to renegotiate, because everything
Speaker 1: is for negotiation, especially if you're making the money.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: If you now, if you grabbing all the money yourself,
Speaker 1: doing your shows, doing all that, and you ain't really
Speaker 1: blowing up as a brand, they probably ain't gonna rock
Speaker 1: with you. It just needs to make sense. You need
Speaker 1: to make sure you building your stuff up so you
Speaker 1: can come with them with delivers. Hey, this album I
Speaker 1: sold fifty thousand, My second one I sold one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: So can I change this turn from twelve months to
Speaker 1: maybe six months, because because now you need to be
Speaker 1: able to drop music rapidly anyway, right that wait in
Speaker 1: a year, two years, somebody else be then came through,
Speaker 1: two three folks. Then we then came through.
Speaker 2: Kick the door in.
Speaker 1: It got hot and people forget about you nowadays quick.
Speaker 1: You gotta stay consistent.
Speaker 2: Have streaming help or hurt. Hip hop.
Speaker 1: It helped. I see a lot of people say it hurt,
Speaker 1: but they're not I see a lot of older artists
Speaker 1: say that, but y'all not seeing the money we're seeing
Speaker 1: it Back in Okay, fencing back in the day be
Speaker 1: you could be selling albums but not on the top
Speaker 1: a list of status, and you ain't finna have no
Speaker 1: money like that. It's folks that ain't never been on
Speaker 1: the billboards with ms because people are streaming. People are streaming.
Speaker 1: Streaming don't always resonate because it's artists that stream big
Speaker 1: and don't never get they don't need they don't go
Speaker 1: to radio, they don't need the radio. They stream big.
Speaker 1: It's extreme streame stream and then that when you having
Speaker 1: high numbers and streams that create festivals and different shows
Speaker 1: and fan bases. Is into that. Now the kids are
Speaker 1: into who got dang? This song got a lot of streams?
Speaker 1: This this person got a lot of monthly listeners. People
Speaker 1: look at that now. Back then people weren't really on
Speaker 1: it unless you did some amazing Oh he just first
Speaker 1: week million cells. And if you look at hip hop
Speaker 1: back then, it was probably like five six artists like
Speaker 1: fifty Am. It was like wang. It was only a
Speaker 1: few of them whole. It was only a few of
Speaker 1: them doing it, and it was a lot of rappers
Speaker 1: and they You would see the difference in the money
Speaker 1: with us streaming, even though you might not see a
Speaker 1: streaming check. Man. If you're a streaming artist, man, they
Speaker 1: give you a lot of opportunities. They give you a
Speaker 1: lot of people people because people are into that now.
Speaker 1: People dive into that, the kids is into that, streaming
Speaker 1: artists people. It's crazy now. I feel like now that
Speaker 1: people are more into trends, like what's trending? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, so if all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: all the blogs posted like, oh, this song got five
Speaker 1: million streams a couple of days later, they might have
Speaker 1: seven million streams just from that, just from people seeing that,
Speaker 1: because people go, people getting on stuff.
Speaker 5: Like what's your take on TikTok because TikTok is threatened
Speaker 5: to remove some of it from their platform because people
Speaker 5: are using the music.
Speaker 2: What's your take on TikTok?
Speaker 1: I feel like I TikTok cool. My kids love TikTok.
Speaker 1: What I just as an artist who makes great music,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I feel like it should
Speaker 1: be Also, TikTok needs to be kunt as extreme too, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because and this but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real too. TikTok is taking a listener
Speaker 1: away because they going to instead of like listen to
Speaker 1: a beautiful art of song. They going to the part
Speaker 1: that might it might be ten seconds, fifteen to twenty seconds,
Speaker 1: and people and when people is doing it so much,
Speaker 1: it makes people feel like they gotta just get discovered
Speaker 1: from TikTok like new artists. You don't gotta do that, bro,
Speaker 1: Good music gonna be good music regardless. But I be
Speaker 1: haaring a lot of TikTok music now. I ain't hanging
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: I saluted.
Speaker 1: I saluted it because I don't want to seem like
Speaker 1: I'm hanging on the other serrations. I just feel like
Speaker 1: it do kind of close the door on the artist,
Speaker 1: like on the artist's side. But it can blow up.
Speaker 1: It can make your catalog blow up, like Fancis. You
Speaker 1: might have a song you dropped four years ago and
Speaker 1: then go viral tomorrow and it rechart. That's the good.
Speaker 1: That's why I say it's good and the bad.
Speaker 5: So when when you said artists going viral, do you
Speaker 5: believe that's that's sustainable? Like you have a song and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it just goes viral. Can that artist?
Speaker 5: Artists have sustainability?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why, Because every person that went viral,
Speaker 1: every every generation, y'all. Just older generation just ain't called
Speaker 1: the viral. When somebody had a hot song that you
Speaker 1: never known and then the song becomes hot and they
Speaker 1: are new artists, that's viral.
Speaker 2: Okay, So.
Speaker 1: Virus. It depends on the art the artists. It's just
Speaker 1: if it's a great artist or not. Now, sometimes people
Speaker 1: go viral and they don't be able to do nothing
Speaker 1: after that. They might not be the best artist. But
Speaker 1: I feel like everything has always been viral and the
Speaker 1: music periodre like Michael Jackson when he first dropped, when
Speaker 1: he when he first dropped off the wall.
Speaker 2: Off the wall, and then when he dropped bad.
Speaker 1: It's viral. It's everywhere. Viral don't mean nothing, but everybody
Speaker 1: see it and everybody turning into it and channeling in
Speaker 1: on this one thing. Oh So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to ever take away from the viraul. Now it's
Speaker 1: people that do gimmicks. I feel like, give mix don't last. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's that's what I would say, gimmicks don't last.
Speaker 2: What's the state of hip hop right now?
Speaker 1: If we're looking at the whole scale, like we're talking
Speaker 1: about you talking about like the state of hip hop
Speaker 1: looking at all of hip hop history and everything.
Speaker 5: Are you saying, how about this the state of hip
Speaker 5: hop currently as opposed to where it was when you
Speaker 5: were you remember what hip hop was?
Speaker 2: There is hip hop still that. I don't know what
Speaker 2: folks youre talking about.
Speaker 1: It's still that. Why would it not be?
Speaker 3: Everything is culturally moved from hip hop period.
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. It is a commercial
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. It's all
Speaker 1: still brought to hip hop at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: So you don't believe hip hop is the climate.
Speaker 1: I don't believe so, not while I'm in it. But
Speaker 1: the hell I was like saying, is declining right now
Speaker 1: I'm in it, not no certain and it's way more
Speaker 1: rich Black folks off of that made it. Ever, it
Speaker 1: ain't never been no execs in the buildings like it
Speaker 1: is now. It's black execs in the buildings, like in
Speaker 1: the label buildings making decisions more than it's ever been.
Speaker 1: And we still run the culture. And then if you
Speaker 1: still look up the quoters people just be talking. If
Speaker 1: you still look up the quoters that they make that
Speaker 1: they label make, ask somebody that next time you introduce
Speaker 1: somebody like that's in the music business. At execs, ask
Speaker 1: them where that money come from? Pop? Country or hip hop?
Speaker 1: At the end of the at the end of the quarters,
Speaker 1: it's hip hop because hip hop is coming so much,
Speaker 1: it's flooding the market.
Speaker 2: It's funny that you say country. We see Beyonce make
Speaker 2: a country song.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Texas Hold Them Hard went to number one on
Speaker 5: the Country and the Billboard chart.
Speaker 2: What made you?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: What in your best guess? Obviously you're not in her head,
Speaker 5: you're not in her team's head. What do you Why
Speaker 5: do you think Beyonce charted it out because that was
Speaker 5: a huge risk. Now she's big enough, she's a brand
Speaker 5: for herself. But she's big enough to take that risk,
Speaker 5: to take that chance. Why I don't even feel like
Speaker 5: it was original chance. She's a real talented artist. You
Speaker 5: can't play with her like. You can't put her in
Speaker 5: no box. You can't put artists. You can't put artists
Speaker 5: in a box. That said, it's an artist like, you
Speaker 5: can't put.
Speaker 1: Them in the box. And if you just look up
Speaker 1: history from Houston, Texas, they ride horses, They country for real.
Speaker 1: She got folks in her family country. I got folks
Speaker 1: in my family in Greenville, Tarboro, Greenville, I mean Tarborvioe,
Speaker 1: North Carolina and Greenville, North Carolina is real country folks
Speaker 1: and country music come from black folks. I don't know
Speaker 1: where is the new thing where it's like because I
Speaker 1: seen somebody get mad at her doing the song or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. But folks gotta not
Speaker 1: take don't try to. You can't take our history too
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 5: Don't tell you but you don't think that was a
Speaker 5: risk for her, consider who she is. Look, she can
Speaker 5: always go back to what she was doing. She's still
Speaker 5: one of the biggest artists in the world. So even
Speaker 5: if it didn't she had major success doing it. But
Speaker 5: even if she didn't have success, she did always go said, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm just over here. I don't feel like it's a
Speaker 5: risk because she's an artist.
Speaker 1: Like we didn't got caught up in this thing where
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, if they do that, they tripping or
Speaker 1: that's not you're supposed to be doing this. You was
Speaker 1: an artist. It's no, it's no. It's like go back
Speaker 1: to Whitnam Houston and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: If you listen to Michael Jackson and Jackson five in
Speaker 1: the beginning, it's love, love, love, and then you hear
Speaker 1: bad and Dirty Diana, that sounds like a rock song.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not no limit to
Speaker 1: if you're a great artists, not a limit to. It's
Speaker 1: not a ceiling on you. I don't feel like it
Speaker 1: was no risk like she makes she made country music
Speaker 1: and she and it sounded good too, right, So.
Speaker 2: You would you be willing to experiment.
Speaker 1: I'll do anything I get on any I get on
Speaker 1: any song I done.
Speaker 2: Did E d M. You're gonna do country? I tried.
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna wait on.
Speaker 3: That right now, right now, now, right now. I'll do
Speaker 3: it anything that I feel I could do anything.
Speaker 2: You know. You was on the renasce to. What was
Speaker 2: that like? Bro?
Speaker 1: It was it was it was like, it's crazy, crazy, Bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie it's crazy. Like the production, how
Speaker 1: she do the show, the showmanship, how to treat, how
Speaker 1: you treated, and like how the fantasy treated inside of
Speaker 1: the show. She amazing, it's amazing. Bro, ain't gonna lie
Speaker 1: like it's crazy.
Speaker 5: I mean NonStop, two hours of NonStop dancing, entertaining.
Speaker 3: She man, it's a lot of It's like a storyline.
Speaker 2: I want you there.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of oo eye moments, a lot
Speaker 1: of moments you It's like the energy is just moving
Speaker 1: in different realms.
Speaker 5: But you did an electric fly. I mean, what made
Speaker 5: you a hole? Get up there and start doing the
Speaker 5: electrics lide?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It felt like we was
Speaker 1: at the barbecue, man. I mean, you know you don't.
Speaker 5: You can'tnot be at the blade. You can't be at
Speaker 5: the cook guy at the barbecue and you gotta hit it.
Speaker 5: You can't right that saying cool? You got to hit that, man.
Speaker 5: You got to get in there.
Speaker 1: Man, it's a vibe, it's the energy thing. Like everybody
Speaker 1: was happy. I felt good, like the show was a
Speaker 1: beautiful show and it was just a moment and it
Speaker 1: one like something while you were thinking, it was just
Speaker 1: like you was at the cookout. Like what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like you with the family like lock.
Speaker 2: Then it's electric.
Speaker 1: It's electric.
Speaker 5: So what can fans that's seeing offset for the very
Speaker 5: first time solo? What the can they expect going to
Speaker 5: your concert.
Speaker 1: I'm doing backflips after a while, I'm hanging from the ceiling,
Speaker 1: I'm touching the fans, I'm getting in the crowd with you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna turn up, were gonna have a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. I want you to leave out with
Speaker 1: the experience. Like damn, I didn't know he was like that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything that's too cool. I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to be too cool for school. I might
Speaker 1: never have to sweat. I want everybody to have a
Speaker 1: great time. Like I said in my production, I put
Speaker 1: a lot of I spent a lot of money into
Speaker 1: this where it don't even really make sense where they like,
Speaker 1: oh you, but I'm going hard. I just want to
Speaker 1: believe investing myself. I believe I got to do something
Speaker 1: to separate myself from the other artists, and I got
Speaker 1: to do something that will make me stand out that
Speaker 1: that that you know I come from a I gotta
Speaker 1: still represent my roots and where I come from too, bro,
Speaker 1: I come from to me though. It was a great group,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and we did things at
Speaker 1: a high level. So I got to do this at
Speaker 1: a high level.
Speaker 5: So you believe this is your opportunity to really separate
Speaker 5: yourself from other artists in your field.
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, I am gonna do that. I'm not
Speaker 1: it's not something I think I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 5: You know you said this is gonna be the greatest show,
Speaker 5: greatest song arder. Yeah, that's what you said. Yes, I
Speaker 5: read where you went to ushers when he has this resident,
Speaker 5: say in Vegas, and you studied a lot of what
Speaker 5: he did and the production and the theatrics of him,
Speaker 5: and you're going to try to are you going to
Speaker 5: incorporate a lot obviously totally different, Viye, but you're gonna
Speaker 5: incorporate some of the things because you like the way
Speaker 5: his show was produced and the way it was set up.
Speaker 1: I like the way I had the intimate and he
Speaker 1: felt like you could reach him and touch him. And
Speaker 1: then just because I'm looking at a show and a
Speaker 1: different aspect of I'm an artist, so I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: at it different. I'm looking at what the fan responses is,
Speaker 1: how you activate with the fan when he go up
Speaker 1: the stairs and he get on his DJ thing and
Speaker 1: he's literally in the crowd with the fans, and they
Speaker 1: even know how to act. They not even losing it.
Speaker 1: They know how to act. They keeping the control. But
Speaker 1: it's like the environment he did, how he did his
Speaker 1: small setup for him to then go do the super
Speaker 1: Bowl right. And he from Atlanta too, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it ain't a lot of people I'm seeing doing that
Speaker 1: from the A. So he from home. So I feel
Speaker 1: related to him and shot out of him, and he
Speaker 1: brought me out. He brought me out on his tour.
Speaker 1: I was able to perform his tour. How he did
Speaker 1: like he pought the film aspect of it too was
Speaker 1: like his backstage where I came from was like club
Speaker 1: usher and it was like a club in there. And
Speaker 1: how he was talking to me, how I would be
Speaker 1: talking to the next artist if I'm don't just come
Speaker 1: out of the show. I got this camera black and
Speaker 1: makes sure you be on point right here, bom boom boma,
Speaker 1: like make sure I'm in pocketed everything to make sure
Speaker 1: his show is still running. I respect the vacialism.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so honestly. I read that.
Speaker 5: You said you you spending a lot of your own
Speaker 5: money on this set, on this production. Why was that
Speaker 5: important to you? Because I come I feel like, is
Speaker 5: it a control thing?
Speaker 1: Not fair to fans from where I come from, and
Speaker 1: to do less, okay, just do less, It's not I
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's fair, and I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I would be respected doing the show simple, like a
Speaker 1: simple show. I'll just be in the midst of everybody
Speaker 1: else doing simple shows. I've been in the game eleven years,
Speaker 1: so I gotta come stepping. I gotta be I gotta.
Speaker 1: I want you to respect me when you leave out
Speaker 1: the building.
Speaker 5: Right, Why was it so important? Because I look, I
Speaker 5: haven't been to a rap show and since Hammier was
Speaker 5: a hatchet. But no it it's been a while, a
Speaker 5: while set.
Speaker 1: You gotta get outside about since since EMC.
Speaker 2: Halma, No, I ain't No, I got it.
Speaker 5: Now, you got to go back. I'm talkingbout I gotta
Speaker 5: go way back. I'm talking about like run DMC and
Speaker 5: instead you've seen concert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not being a part of the culture.
Speaker 2: I about I buy the records. I listen.
Speaker 1: You ain't buying a record, You're streaming the record.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, come on, come on side like radio.
Speaker 1: No, man, you gotta go see the youngest man do
Speaker 1: their thing. Man, man, you gotta go see them do that.
Speaker 1: I tell o'clock what time they're coming off. You're coming
Speaker 1: on in five o'clock in the afternoon. No, I can't
Speaker 1: steal that. Yes you can, man, You gotta rock with it.
Speaker 2: I gotta work in the morning.
Speaker 1: You at rock with the culture. Man, you can't let
Speaker 1: it be cause then they're gonna put you in that
Speaker 1: old head record. That ain't cool. See old head record
Speaker 1: is only not It's not because of age. It's because
Speaker 1: you're not culturally involved in the youth. Okay, they call
Speaker 1: got a lot of young cats rock at you, Bro.
Speaker 1: They dude, they do, man, Bro, they like you to.
Speaker 2: They rock with you, Bro.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I guess you got you gotta stop
Speaker 3: one them type pads too.
Speaker 2: No, I can't do that this you you got to, bro.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you like I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 2: I ain't let them change me.
Speaker 1: Man about that. Bro, Just you big, I know big
Speaker 1: for that. Noah.
Speaker 5: See see if I got on if I got on
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Speaker 2: But you I got on these big cargos. Okay, these fit.
Speaker 5: But what I got on when I got what you
Speaker 5: call them? Uh, when I'm out doing stuff for my Laportier, Rob,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be comfortable.
Speaker 1: You could be comfortable. I I ain't uncomfortable in that.
Speaker 2: I'm comfortably in what I got.
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Speaker 5: Rick Flair drill Whoo Yeah, how did how did? How
Speaker 5: did the Rick Flaird I mean you ar wrestling.
Speaker 1: I wrestler. I like, right, why I refleed too, And
Speaker 1: that's my partner, that's my boy got dog.
Speaker 2: The ad lib So how do you come up with
Speaker 2: the ad libs?
Speaker 1: How do you come up with what you It's really
Speaker 1: a feeling in a in a in a in a
Speaker 1: it's like just an excitement and feeling and when you're
Speaker 1: doing the song and it's like it's a gap filler
Speaker 1: and a lot of people and it's simple so people
Speaker 1: remember it. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's not so complex. It's very simple when I do
Speaker 3: the wolves or the hurt.
Speaker 1: When I'm doing that, it's just a standout moment in
Speaker 1: the song that I feel like a fan, a fan
Speaker 1: just gonna dive into it.
Speaker 3: And then you know, Rick Flood did the wools right,
Speaker 3: so it was on the ride. I had to do
Speaker 3: it on the song.
Speaker 5: But I read when you you had you had had
Speaker 5: a little little discussion with metro booming for putting for
Speaker 5: putting on the album without your mission.
Speaker 2: Y'all cleared that up though, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a public thing. That's my real brother. So
Speaker 1: we was we was, we was going at it about
Speaker 1: that cause, but I trust him though that so that
Speaker 1: even him having a choice of being able to do
Speaker 1: that is because I trust him. But I did not
Speaker 1: like the song.
Speaker 3: He he always will tell me, like, bro, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be one of your biggest songs.
Speaker 1: Six time platinum. Yeah, that was your first platinum record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I had to respect him, respect my boy. It
Speaker 1: was my first solo platinum.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah. How was it working with Rick Clair?
Speaker 5: Because, like you said, you're a wrestling fan, and if
Speaker 5: you're a wrestling plan, you know, nature boy, he.
Speaker 1: Was the same way as I seen on TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the same.
Speaker 1: He was the exact same person, just a little older,
Speaker 1: but the same person. He got energy. He ain't He
Speaker 1: ain't walking around like quiet, No, he loud. And when
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I played respect. So I
Speaker 1: had reached out to him to the video and he
Speaker 1: wasn't really so healthy, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then he said this brought he told me, and I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about this brought him back to life.
Speaker 1: Just what he say to me, because he said he
Speaker 1: was sitting at home, he wasn't working with the wrestling game.
Speaker 3: He wasn't doing none of that no more. And then
Speaker 3: when I made the song.
Speaker 1: He said he started to get a lot of calls
Speaker 1: to like, I guess bring him in, do different, different,
Speaker 1: different things. So if you always see him and he
Speaker 1: got a diamond, he got a diamond rick flod chain
Speaker 1: and I got him too, and he where to this day.
Speaker 1: Every time I see him on his Instagram or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he always show loved me in his every time.
Speaker 5: He in his interviews when he asked about the song,
Speaker 5: we only have a couple of more minutes left. But yeah,
Speaker 5: you've gone to jail twice. What what did you learn
Speaker 5: from going to jail?
Speaker 2: And why did you go?
Speaker 1: I want to jail more than twice, but damn all,
Speaker 1: we only got twice.
Speaker 2: How it out of jail where they do that?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: What I learned was like to fire Like I was young, tripping,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was going out the
Speaker 1: wrong path. But I was just trying to get me
Speaker 1: some money. I wasn't never doing though, I ain't. I
Speaker 1: ain't never like. I was just trying to get some
Speaker 1: money at all time. My brother got fifteen years though.
Speaker 1: That woke me up. My older brother he probably only
Speaker 1: been out for two years, so now so you gotta
Speaker 1: think he got locked up when I was seventeen to
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty two. Wow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So seeing the pain in my mama eyes, seeing him
Speaker 1: get sentenced to fifteen years in prison, like you ain't
Speaker 1: never come up, You ain't coming home fifteen years.
Speaker 2: And then like.
Speaker 1: Lost a lot of homies in the street too. That'll
Speaker 1: wake you up, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: was trying to chase his music, chase something that will
Speaker 1: get me up out of that, and thank god, it
Speaker 1: got me up out of it. But then I still
Speaker 1: made mistakes in music. But I was young, my first
Speaker 1: time having a lot of money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got my whole crew with me everywhere I go,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then you responsible for them, Yeah one of them
Speaker 2: acting food that's on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if all on you, then clean. I had to
Speaker 1: do a lot of cleaning up with my image, man,
Speaker 1: And I'm glad people don't don't really talk about it,
Speaker 1: because that's what I did. I did this for to
Speaker 1: push to push it away because at first, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie when I first From first, I was like
Speaker 1: it was like being a bad apple, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, sitting in front of these barands and they like,
Speaker 1: well you you come out of jail, so you wanta
Speaker 1: da da da da. And to shake that image. It
Speaker 1: was hard, but I'm able to shake it, like I
Speaker 1: always encouraged my got my brother's in rep. Like you
Speaker 1: talk about how you talk, but it makes you you
Speaker 1: presentable when you come to these people. You go on time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk like that, you talk to your homeboy,
Speaker 5: but when you go to corporate America, you talk to
Speaker 5: the people that can give you some money.
Speaker 2: Clean that up. You got to clean it up.
Speaker 3: We got be on time, right, Can they expect you
Speaker 3: to be late?
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause you came early. I mean no, I was
Speaker 2: on time. So no, no, nah. The interview was the
Speaker 2: interview was scheduled.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: The interview was scheduled at one o'clock twelve fifteen.
Speaker 1: I got my schedule.
Speaker 2: Pull up. No, but I'm just telling you what what
Speaker 2: we were?
Speaker 1: How you going twelve fifteen? That's what y'all said. It
Speaker 1: come for y'all. I pull up. She ain't in here,
Speaker 1: I said, damn No.
Speaker 5: What happened was I had a meeting. I did schedule
Speaker 5: two meetings today. The interview was supposed to be at
Speaker 5: one o'clock. You being a rapper, y'all normally come at
Speaker 5: one fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3: See, that's fucked up. That's fucked up, bro. Corporate world
Speaker 3: think the same way and the truth.
Speaker 5: I gonna tell you think I'm sitting down with you guys,
Speaker 5: I ain't late though, you know you early.
Speaker 1: I'm on time.
Speaker 2: You know you early? You our early?
Speaker 3: Say I hit you with unexpected you did gonna be late?
Speaker 5: Not? I know I normally get here at twelve thirty.
Speaker 5: So when CJ hit me up and said, everybody you
Speaker 5: be so everybody.
Speaker 2: Be late, No, not everybody.
Speaker 1: I ain't late. I'm on time all my mess. I
Speaker 1: won't cut up.
Speaker 3: But but but that works for me though. I like
Speaker 3: when people be and you was early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm supposed to be. How you thinking? I ain't
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Oh you were?
Speaker 5: You time?
Speaker 2: Ready to go? You know, came in.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, God, I'm like, you're here, already here,
Speaker 5: ready to go, We got your something to eat?
Speaker 1: Come back still readily go out like well damn yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta be a professional.
Speaker 2: Oh they burys.
Speaker 1: And I got a production company too that I got
Speaker 1: my own pre production company. So I'll be wanting for
Speaker 1: to be on time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big stickler for time, be on time.
Speaker 1: For invest my money and myself and my brain. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so the women actually before obviously do women visit you
Speaker 1: in jail? For sure? It's all a lame now this
Speaker 1: before everything, Yeah, I know, being mad this yeah, yes.
Speaker 5: Come on now, So Juice, did you know these we
Speaker 5: I mean these people that you had messed with, and
Speaker 5: so they come there like I'm coming to see.
Speaker 1: You the funny thing. I tell your funny story. So
Speaker 1: when I first was locked up, when we had Pasachi,
Speaker 1: I was you know, I was a jail when we
Speaker 1: blew up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like.
Speaker 1: Three four people on my list, right, three four girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just cool with on the list and they
Speaker 1: wasn't showing up. What I'm gonna tell you, Let me
Speaker 1: let me tell you how this go though.
Speaker 3: My mama come every weekend, my home was he my
Speaker 3: homeboy freak, he coming every weekend.
Speaker 2: It was him.
Speaker 1: Three girls.
Speaker 3: Soon my song get on the radio, I get on
Speaker 3: the phone.
Speaker 1: They like this song all over the radio's blowing up,
Speaker 1: going crazy. Bro, you wouldn't believe these folks come to
Speaker 1: the visitation now in the Cava County. It's like they
Speaker 1: show your picture and they got the name of the people.
Speaker 1: These clubs were sitting in one lobby and waiting and
Speaker 1: going after another. I started getting one visit to having
Speaker 1: four visits because during the time, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is now, it was a long time ago. You
Speaker 1: get six people that could visit you, they get thirty
Speaker 1: minutes apiece, but they all got to sit in the
Speaker 1: same lobby. And that's when I knew something was going
Speaker 1: on with the music, like it's really happening, because.
Speaker 2: It was like, you look, I got the juice.
Speaker 1: I had the juice.
Speaker 2: You got to think I'm about nineteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm locked up. And every time they're like, bro,
Speaker 1: while they because I ain't tell nobody during that time,
Speaker 1: like when I was in jail, I ain't tell nobody.
Speaker 1: I want laying like, bro, that's me on the radio
Speaker 1: that I'm all shiit. I wasn't doing that and we
Speaker 1: weren't even all the way there yet, but we was
Speaker 1: all on the radio. And then they just start coming.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, you keep getting visits, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it either. I'm like they coming, I mean, how
Speaker 1: they hold up, you got three or four coming and
Speaker 1: they sitting in the same line.
Speaker 2: Dude, they know they coming to see you.
Speaker 1: They know each other too.
Speaker 2: How you pull that off? You man? When you start?
Speaker 1: It started, it started, it starts. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: I guess it was like the first it was like
Speaker 1: me getting to see the first level of fan wow.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't no fights or nothing. It was just
Speaker 1: it was just everybody was hitting away just to go
Speaker 1: go visit me. But it wasn't like that at first though.
Speaker 2: How about this, give me your top five Atlanta rappers Top.
Speaker 1: Five Top five.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
Speaker 1: I hate separating. Now you gotta go hundred three thousand, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You gotta go. Migos, I
Speaker 1: gotta throw me at myself and now you gotta go.
Speaker 1: I should I said that right now. You gotta go. Gucci,
Speaker 1: you gotta go.
Speaker 3: You gotta go Future, you gotta go Pluto.
Speaker 2: You can't see them.
Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta go Future. I want to say, somebody
Speaker 1: out on not though from Atlanta. Oh Kelo you know
Speaker 1: who he's from Atlanta? Right exactly?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Kelot down, yeah, yeah, because that's what I listened to
Speaker 1: my mom and them in the house growing up, and
Speaker 1: I don't never hear nobody else acknowledge them acknowledge him.
Speaker 2: M yeah, damn for money, dude, I don't know nothing
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: I used to hear that. I used to hear that.
Speaker 1: I used to hear that in my mama house all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 5: You had once had an issue with Joe Budden because
Speaker 5: he said something because you direct as a matter of
Speaker 5: fact that we sit here, you directed Cardi B's music
Speaker 5: video for the upcoming I think the song for upcoming
Speaker 5: album and she got uh you had. I don't think
Speaker 5: he feeling it, but you had to run in with
Speaker 5: Joe before correct. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, we're good with Joe.
Speaker 2: Man, Joe just be.
Speaker 1: I don't like how I rock with Joe because I
Speaker 1: didn't talk to him on some on some man and Man.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like he'd kick it with you
Speaker 1: and then kind of dog yet to the world, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now, it'd be hard for
Speaker 1: him to do that because it's like the credits don't
Speaker 1: be matching, Like the comparisons the credits that he has
Speaker 1: don't be matching.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I mean right.
Speaker 1: The credits that he got don't read be matching to
Speaker 1: the people he be getting on ass. But he do
Speaker 1: got a word, and sometimes he says some things that
Speaker 1: that it do make sense. But I didn't like how
Speaker 1: he was trying to shoot on the females, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's an evolution, bro, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: say that that it's dead. And then I don't want
Speaker 1: him to come from me either, like because I didn't
Speaker 1: talk to him. I ain't just down to I just
Speaker 1: feel like I disagree with your opinion with the female music,
Speaker 1: like they're doing their thing. Why shit on it?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: But we're good.
Speaker 1: We're good though, Yeah, no problem. Ain't got no problem, nobody.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, how do you the criticism
Speaker 5: that comes along with it? How have you been able
Speaker 5: to develop thick skin? Because you know there been some criticism.
Speaker 3: I don't come from that though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't, thank God, Like I blew up in twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen where we were still we had to get on
Speaker 1: the floor, we had to see a citys we had
Speaker 1: to put post us up. I come from doing that
Speaker 1: shows for five thousand to ten thousand chitling circuit, like
Speaker 1: I didn't come from Damn, I blew up my song
Speaker 1: blew up on Instagram. I'm like, let me check my comments,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just feel like
Speaker 1: your coret fan base. As long as you got that
Speaker 1: and you successful, you moving, but you know, you do
Speaker 1: see stuff and you go through stuff. But I try
Speaker 1: to keep myself up out of that because they'll end up.
Speaker 1: It'll drive you crazy trying to like prove to these
Speaker 1: people because once they see that they can get to you,
Speaker 1: they just keep going, yeah to do It's like one
Speaker 1: soon they touch touch that nerve and you show they
Speaker 1: touched that nerve. They touch it throughout your whole thing,
Speaker 1: Like I'll be seeing now. Like when people drop music
Speaker 1: right they like the next day, it's like trolls on
Speaker 1: there saying how many streams they got in twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: When I come from your record growing, because when your
Speaker 1: record grow, it establishes you more, right, because you can
Speaker 1: have a number one record for one and then it
Speaker 1: drop off the charts completely. And then that person who
Speaker 1: at eighty nine and they go to sixty nine and
Speaker 1: they go to seventy. That mean they didn't have been
Speaker 1: on the billboards for twelve weeks, and they got up
Speaker 1: the top twenty, top ten, and you had number one,
Speaker 1: and they fell right off the chart. I come from
Speaker 1: development music, like right where my first my first songs,
Speaker 1: I ain't go top ten on no billboard and I
Speaker 1: still was making my money and people love me, and
Speaker 1: it's it's I feel like it's taking away from the
Speaker 1: artists creativity. They ain't really because they're so focused on life.
Speaker 1: Damn getting what my number gonna be. I don't be
Speaker 1: I ain't even taking that. But I feel like first
Speaker 1: week numbers it's a way to downplay us, to make
Speaker 1: us a less value in the game, to like the
Speaker 1: big labels social media, social media?
Speaker 2: What role do you think social media?
Speaker 5: Because you like you said that people sometimes people say
Speaker 5: things on social media that they would never say to
Speaker 5: your face. And sometimes people do things just to get
Speaker 5: other people in social media to click up with them,
Speaker 5: like yeah, you see what he said about such and such.
Speaker 5: He said this about off set, or he said this
Speaker 5: about this about that. Are you are you on social
Speaker 5: media like that? Or you just let it rock?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always watching, but I try not to
Speaker 1: bite debate. Feel me like try not to bite debate
Speaker 1: cause as an artist sometimes we see no baite debate.
Speaker 5: I'm not as a matter of fact that you mentioned
Speaker 5: that I'm gonna get me some tile clothes now.
Speaker 2: As you told me that.
Speaker 1: You can't bite debate because once you bite debate and
Speaker 1: they might be saying the crazy shit you bite debate
Speaker 1: and if you when you realize it, like now, if
Speaker 1: I'm so small, soon you bite debate that mother everywhere? Yeah,
Speaker 1: soon you speak on something. It just flooded everywhere and
Speaker 1: it it got big. But I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I'm a person too though. Sometimes the super disrespectful ship.
Speaker 1: I just got to say something because it because sometimes
Speaker 1: you be like two their respectul like it's been times
Speaker 1: one time like they were doing some weird stuff my kids.
Speaker 1: You mad at me that much that you gotta bring
Speaker 1: my kids and do like a fake little weird mean.
Speaker 1: I don't play that. I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. Now that's when I speak on it. When
Speaker 1: it's like my family little like my kids, you got
Speaker 1: some weird nasty shit with my kid like and it
Speaker 1: be fan bases that do that ship, and it's like bro,
Speaker 1: come on, bro, like you I say something to that.
Speaker 1: But most of the time I'm gonna ask. I got
Speaker 1: good people around me to shun it. So'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit. I'm gonna hit my folks like hey, bro,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, don't say nothing. They'll tak me
Speaker 1: about it. I ain't just jumping the gun though, right,
Speaker 1: because sometimes you'll just blow it up. Some people ain't
Speaker 1: even seen that, and then they see you know, it's
Speaker 1: on every blood.
Speaker 5: I asked Savage about this about dating privately versus publicly,
Speaker 5: and what's your thoughts on that? If you could do
Speaker 5: it over again, what are your what are your thoughts
Speaker 5: on dating publicly versus dating privately?
Speaker 1: If I could do it again, definitely privately just so
Speaker 1: not let me say not so public, I mean not
Speaker 1: so I mean not not so public because I like
Speaker 1: to show mine off, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, folks being your business and people
Speaker 1: judge you like just too much, like just too much
Speaker 1: into yo yo yo your world, and and it deteriorates
Speaker 1: a lot of things.
Speaker 3: But that ship man, they put a lot of pressure
Speaker 3: on folks and stuff like that, and.
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't not everybody, not really supposed to see your
Speaker 1: improfessions or your professions, you know what I mean, that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be It's like a household thing, so I
Speaker 1: would definitely more private.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. I read it also that you you put
Speaker 5: the lean down. Yeah, why do you feel that was important?
Speaker 5: It was it bothering your health because I mean.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no health issues. It was bothering my relationships,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, my family, Like I
Speaker 1: hated that. My mom would say, uh, just sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm talking to my son. That's it
Speaker 1: because that that that that that hurt, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You can't keep saying it. But so many times,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't her trying to like, but it was
Speaker 1: genuinely I could see it in her eyes what she
Speaker 1: said or when I used to be right there just
Speaker 1: how like and just sit it. And I just catch
Speaker 1: my mama. I keep her like just looking at me,
Speaker 1: and she'll try to look off. I knew I was
Speaker 1: disappointed my mama and disappointed my family. And it's the
Speaker 1: greatest thing I did, though, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I gotta clear mindset I'm not because it have you
Speaker 1: like a little aggravated a little bit.
Speaker 2: That makes it. Why do you think so many rappers
Speaker 2: are taking it?
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: People got their own trauma. Sometimes I never think it's
Speaker 1: a cool thing, like when people be like, oh, that
Speaker 1: was a cool thing to do. I think you try
Speaker 1: something and you enjoy it. It makes you feel good
Speaker 1: and you keep doing it. That's just me being a thousand.
Speaker 5: As we wrap up here, Offset, how does Offset continue
Speaker 5: to evolve and move the.
Speaker 1: Bar by being more creative, taking more risks, the risk
Speaker 1: of the reward. I got that tatted on it. No risk,
Speaker 1: no reward. Also studying the greats. Man, you gotta study
Speaker 1: your history. You gotta study sometimes, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people like I don't watch nobody,
Speaker 1: but I watch greats because I want to see what
Speaker 1: they were doing to separate themselves and to keep growing.
Speaker 1: Because it's hard, especially in this time. People don't be
Speaker 1: one to accept shit, so you gotta force them to
Speaker 1: accept it. That's why I just like when you said
Speaker 1: with the Beyonce the situation, you're gonna accept this and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go number one, and we're gonna keep pushing
Speaker 1: this brand, and sometimes the risks come with a great reward.
Speaker 1: You can't be scared. I feel like as an artist,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do that. People look up to you
Speaker 1: because they can't do that in their lives. They don't
Speaker 1: have the heart. You inspire other people, so if you
Speaker 1: do the same thing, you're only gonna inspire the same
Speaker 1: amount of people. I always want to grow my fan base.
Speaker 1: I always want to and you've done it. He was
Speaker 1: on a bigg ass TV show, right, and you came
Speaker 1: to your own thing and your ship then grow bigger, bigger.
Speaker 1: You've been a football stars, you went through different levels
Speaker 1: and it's still it's always room for being a bigger
Speaker 1: and a better brand. And sometimes you go through heartbreak.
Speaker 1: So sometimes you go through tough times, and a tough
Speaker 1: time would make you and you'll feel like, damn, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen next? And then you don't get distracted by
Speaker 1: it and you keep on to your mission. If you
Speaker 1: really you dive into what you really believe in, man,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come. It's gonna come through for you.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you talking about the club best of luck on
Speaker 5: the the solo tour. Yes, sir, say you know what
Speaker 5: you come to a city there. Oh shay, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: pull up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come pull up. I'm like, what man, I
Speaker 1: like what you you gratulations to you? Man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You've been You've been helping people and
Speaker 1: you'll know it. You know what I mean. People people,
Speaker 1: you started your own thing. You know I rocked with
Speaker 1: old show. Yeah that's my real doll. Now, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: my real doll. I like with how boys doing, y'all
Speaker 1: keeping the original. It's like a black talk. It's real
Speaker 1: relatable to young and the old.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep doing your thing.
Speaker 2: Man, shad that y'all stop by one night.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop by. I want to get on that one.
Speaker 2: I'll tell my boy, that's my real dollar. That's my boy.
Speaker 2: Off set.
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back
Speaker 4: the price, wanta slice got the brother dice all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all.
Speaker 4: My life, sacrifics, tustle back the price, one slice, got
Speaker 4: to brow the diceat all my life.
Speaker 5: I've been grinding all my life