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Speaker 5: The guy that's stopping by for conversation on a drink

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Speaker 5: today is one of the most influential figures in the

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Speaker 5: music industry. He's a Grammy nominated songwriter, a multi platinum

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Speaker 5: chart topping rap superstar. He's been a part of forty

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Speaker 5: one of the culture's biggest titans. He's globally known and

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 5: Check this out, man, you know you hear. Thanks for

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Speaker 5: coming to the club. I got my own cognac and

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Speaker 5: the start of your little tour, your tour, big tour

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Speaker 5: and new album.

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Speaker 1: New album set it off?

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Speaker 2: Is that the dollar?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, damn you took it to the head like

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Speaker 1: that cook or it's smooth. I gotta go and get

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Speaker 5: I thought we were gonna saimp throughout the throughout throughout

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Speaker 5: this wenna.

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Speaker 1: How we're gonna se up? You don't take it the

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Speaker 5: Just get it anybody, Okay, Then we're gonna get your

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Speaker 5: number him you know, yeah, Lee, I mean I ain't

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Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I ain't gonna do it like me.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do it like me.

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Speaker 5: Okay, check this out. This is what I want to

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Speaker 5: get to. Thanks for stopping by the club. You're set

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Speaker 5: to start your first headline tour solo. Yes, sir, what's

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Speaker 5: the excitement?

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Speaker 2: What's going through your mind?

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Speaker 5: Because normally you're with your you're with the me goals,

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Speaker 5: but now you're gonna do your own thing.

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Speaker 1: It's different for sure. Everything I'm super hands on with everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm preparing every single day to rehearsals, eight hour rehearsals.

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Speaker 1: I'm locked in. I'm really focused on the production. I

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure the production. That's my main thing.

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Speaker 1: I like to make sure that my lights is on time.

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Speaker 1: I smoke, it's on time. My team were on the

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Speaker 1: same page with how to performance goals because that's why

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Speaker 5: Into So you say the production, so obviously you're a rapper,

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Speaker 5: and normally we don't really think of like production with

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Speaker 5: rap now, but that's R and B. We see Unsha

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Speaker 5: and Chris Brown, they're singing, they're dancing, But I saw

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be doing a lot of that. Also.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some moves.

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Speaker 3: Now, but it's I tried not to be like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: I studied great, you know, James Michael, I studied great,

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Speaker 1: so and I just feel like showman ship is missing

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Speaker 1: get putting the show on for the people instead of

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Speaker 1: just you know, having all the good songs be hard,

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Speaker 1: but you know, when you ain't really it ain't no

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm trying to step out the boss.

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Speaker 5: You got your start as a backup dance TLC. Whitney Houston,

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Speaker 5: Bobby Brown and the music videos. How did that come about?

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Speaker 5: Did you audition? Did you know somebody that had that

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Speaker 5: were a part of the production with these these other people.

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Speaker 1: Na, My mama was driving me in the car one

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Speaker 1: day in College Park and it was like a sign

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Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. Man what we needed that money too?

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Speaker 3: Back then, Yeah, I felt good.

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Speaker 1: Then I ain't. I ain't she she she got whoever

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Speaker 5: Right, So what's what's your fondest memories of that? Because

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Speaker 5: obviously you know who they are. You know TLC. That

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Speaker 5: as big as you got. So what was going through

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Speaker 5: your mind? You're an eight year old kid. Your mom

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Speaker 5: just stopped by, like, Hey, we're gonna go in here

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Speaker 5: do your thing? Did you Did she know you could dance?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know it's a little family thing. The whole family knew.

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Speaker 1: I just was a little little dance smartfucker when I

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Speaker 1: thing I remember is just staring at with Houston. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: Mike Epps was there, right, and he was funny.

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Speaker 3: He was just funny. And then.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like a pimp walk that

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Speaker 1: we had to do a part of the scene and

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Speaker 1: I won, and then Barbi Bron gave me one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: I remember that that was hard.

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Speaker 2: Do you keep the hunter that you spent it?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: That was gone. We split that now. But there was

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Speaker 1: she took her craft with you and played like with

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Speaker 2: So she was hands on. Is that why you're so

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Speaker 5: Because you say, I'm handling every when the smoke's supposed

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Speaker 2: Is that why you learned to be hands on? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Like looking at the grades because I feel like back

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Speaker 2: You know you're a big fan of Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 5: What was it about the King of Park that made

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Speaker 1: His work ethic first and foremost, and like his determination

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Speaker 5: So you're willing to take risk in your music career

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Speaker 1: Willing to take those type of risks. I don't think so,

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Speaker 5: You reacted to Thriller in the Smooth Criminal in one

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Speaker 2: Right? Is that what made you like? Man? You know what?

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Speaker 5: I really want to I kind of I like him.

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Speaker 5: I'm a different you know, I'm different. He's pop, You're

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Speaker 1: Want to do music? It was like and then I'm

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Speaker 1: to keep really like But as far as performance entertainment, yes,

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Speaker 1: So for him to change the game, and then they

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Speaker 5: They showed him, but it was like at midnight, one

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Speaker 5: I mean Michael was at Look, I'm olderough to remember

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Speaker 2: The family really.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm tired.

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Speaker 5: That's that's what's up. I'm looking at you, and you're

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be the better me, you know

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Speaker 2: So do you did you? Did you talk to end

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 5: Have you talked to anybody or you just like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: No, I never talked to nobody that might be a

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Speaker 3: Though just with the decision within myself, you know what

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Speaker 5: And you felt that this was at this time, at

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Speaker 3: Just building my foundation when I'm playing my seed.

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Speaker 5: So what's your take? I mean, obviously Atlanta and there

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Speaker 2: You rank, Where would you rank your group?

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Speaker 5: Even if you want to do just Atlanta groups, or

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Speaker 1: If I do just Atlanta, I'll give us two because

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Speaker 1: I'm respectful. We got you gotta respect outcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: They kicked the dough down for us down south. I

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Speaker 5: Because you got outcast Wu tang n w A run

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna stay too, because I'm gonna put our

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Speaker 1: you you you you put n W A way down there.

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Speaker 1: I respect n W A and they keep the gates.

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Speaker 1: They kids the gate. They kicked the gates off, and

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Speaker 2: And but.

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Speaker 1: I'm young too, you know what I mean, So.

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Speaker 3: I ain't no, I ain't no, like no young head.

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Speaker 3: That's like not knowing what's going on.

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Speaker 1: They kick them those down for us, even KRS one,

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Speaker 5: Man Off said, it was really good to see you

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Speaker 5: in Quavo perform at the BT Awards in honor of

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Speaker 5: a take off.

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Speaker 2: What was that moment like for you?

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Speaker 1: The moment was special, man. It gave me the cheers,

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Speaker 1: It gave me like a boost of life. I spoke

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Speaker 3: And family go through us and downs at the end

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Speaker 1: When you can get bad with your family and stand

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Speaker 2: It was reporting that Pharreal convince you to do it.

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Speaker 5: Was this something that had you had you and Quabo

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Speaker 3: We had yeah, we had sort the answer first question.

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Speaker 1: We had spoke about it. And then the closer it

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Speaker 1: got to I was in Paris Profashion Week, and so

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Speaker 1: What you got needed that, we needed that, We needed

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Speaker 1: though I'm going I'm doing my solo thing, I still

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Speaker 1: understand my core Ba saying, I still understand that I'm

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Speaker 5: So is there is there a chance that you and

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Speaker 5: got you and Quaba could do a project again together?

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Speaker 1: It's possible.

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Speaker 2: I read we take Off.

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Speaker 5: Was really a funny guy, fun to be around, fun loving.

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Speaker 2: Is there any funny stories you'd like to share about it? Did?

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Speaker 2: You can share it with us?

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Speaker 1: Funny stories that I could shall with y'all. I only

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We was making bando a long time ago. We

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Speaker 1: you know, the match from from high school, from school,

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Speaker 1: And then I mean when Tate came in there, he

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Speaker 1: the reason why that's so special is because we had

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Speaker 1: never thought that song was gonna blow up. Like you

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 5: You got a tattoo of him on your back? What

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Speaker 5: are your three what's your favorite tattoos? Obviously the one

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Speaker 5: relationship that you shared with him. So what are your

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Speaker 5: three favorite tattoos?

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Speaker 1: My three favorite tattoos.

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Speaker 2: Would be.

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Speaker 1: But it got to be six because I got five kids.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you got So you got five kids, So

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Speaker 2: My favorite? Okay, so what's the what's the other favorite?

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Speaker 1: My other favorite? My mic tat, I like that, my

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Speaker 1: mc tack. My grandmother's name, Sally, you know, from the conscious.

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Speaker 1: And the third one would be they shot to say

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Speaker 3: My mom.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my mama, because it ain't gonna lie. When I

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Speaker 2: Oh she let that.

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Speaker 1: Fly, No, she ain't let she ain't let it fly.

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Speaker 1: I had, I had. I had sold my Xbox and

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Speaker 1: getting dumb tattoos, like I got Louis I got LV

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Speaker 1: own the pep I had I got Uh, I got

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Speaker 1: Marvin Marshall. He ain't even my favorite cartoon. You just

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Speaker 1: getting tanned for the hell of it. I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: Look what that you got?

441
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Speaker 5: So when you when your Mom found out, So how

442
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 5: did you so obviously you got them in places that no.

443
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,880
Speaker 1: I ain't getting no, no, no. My first was I got

444
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: right here, okay, you know. And then clothes was still

445
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 1: a little the shirts back there.

446
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 2: Was still that heh okay, you had you had to

447
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: make tease.

448
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 5: You know.

449
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,119
Speaker 1: The first one I get was my mama and my

450
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 1: grandma name. So when she peeked, I thought they were

451
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna be. I thought they were gonna be the deal

452
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 1: breaking on fork with not going for that slopp right

453
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 1: in my by that.

454
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 3: I was fifteen too, she was tripping.

455
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 2: So you get a tattoo.

456
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 5: You wanted to be the cool obviously, Mom and grandma

457
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 5: what and you try you try to sneak it past, like, hey,

458
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,479
Speaker 5: you know what I got? Mama named my girl, Grandma

459
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 5: names that they go fly. They're like, boy, don't be

460
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 5: barking your body up like that.

461
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 1: That was that mad about that?

462
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 2: You a big fashion guy?

463
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 5: When did you? When did you get into fashion? Have

464
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,199
Speaker 5: you always been in the fashion?

465
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: I always been into it. He was at green By, Mama, huh,

466
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 1: I was in that place. But I was at that place, okay,

467
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? When the Polos was in right.

468
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,239
Speaker 1: I used to risk my life for think. I used

469
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: to risk my life just to be fresh. I'd have

470
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: been chased out the mall still a lot of Macy's.

471
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 1: And I didn't get caught though, But but but couldn't

472
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 1: afford certain stuff, like when the Lee by Way was

473
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 1: in a long long, long time ago. And then I

474
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,199
Speaker 1: would go up to the Mason Store and be like,

475
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: I'll be trying them on. I got two three on them, mom,

476
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: but one day they caught on.

477
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 2: And then so you take off with them all.

478
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: I take off with him on, get up out of them,

479
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: out of them down Escalator. That's what killed him.

480
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Speaker 2: He come.

481
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Speaker 1: I went down Escalatord obviously way and then you know,

482
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: another black brother helped me out though he was working

483
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Speaker 1: at I think it was harder because you know, by

484
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Speaker 1: a mall, it's a dealership by and I was just

485
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Speaker 1: running through. But I lied to him. I told him

486
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 1: I was getting jumped. I'm like, man, I'm getting jumped.

487
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: I need to use your phone. And then I called

488
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: my homework to come pick me up. But yeah, I

489
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 1: used to reach my life, try to get it if

490
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: I If I ain't, we ain't had no money because

491
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: I felt like you know, in school, when you're young,

492
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 1: you being fly the only thing you really got right,

493
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: unless you like a super athlete in sports.

494
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Speaker 5: So what the flying? This just because of you? Or

495
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 5: you was trying to attract the honey.

496
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: I was trying to track the honey and it was

497
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: good to me too, though. I just wanted to be flying,

498
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

499
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 2: But I was though the honey like that. They like

500
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: they like the gear that you had on.

501
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was having it on. See if my senior

502
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: year I got on Gucca and I went best dressed.

503
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying in high school? Oh you want

504
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: best having pattern? You don't having pattern? About the drill?

505
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 5: Now?

506
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah that just come. I got the money.

507
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 5: So so what's your favorite? What's your So you going out?

508
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 5: Yeah you I'm not talking about it to the Oscars

509
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 5: or toil the Grammars. You just going out, what's the gear?

510
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throwing a little see I'm mixing it up,

511
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: so I might go a little rick on you, but

512
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: older rick though, Okay, and then I'm gonna go Margeal

513
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: on you because I feel like, ain't nobody really wearing

514
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: the marginala in my lead? They don't really get it

515
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: the language. They don't speak that language. And I like

516
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot of And the thing with me was clothes.

517
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: I like my clothes. The cut is more important than

518
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: the extra designer who's made you know what I mean?

519
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: It got it high, It fit my body and high.

520
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: How I put it on it matters. I'm gonna go belt,

521
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: but sometimes I might go double belt outside the loops.

522
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm giving these keys. Now, y'all remember this because you're

523
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: gonna see it now that said it. But yeah, and

524
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm inspired by might too, so I might go some days,

525
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: I might go blue jeans and when I sit down,

526
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: you can see the white sock on purpose like I

527
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: got on rick on right now, you know, right. So

528
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm just i'm'a just play around with it. I'm gonna

529
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: play around. I ain't gonna never I ain't gonna never

530
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: go mannequin. I feel like a lot of people go mannequin.

531
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: They go, I'm gonna go Gucci, and I'm gonna go Gucci.

532
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: G I'm gonna go Belinicaya and I'm wet already down.

533
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: I really gonna do that. I like to switch it

534
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: up so you could kind of like cause in the

535
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: fashion world, people pay attention to what we call pieces.

536
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: So you want to always have a piece on, which

537
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: means it's like a it's like a rare piece from

538
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: the brand or something that everybody don't got that they

539
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: want it though, but everybody want it, you know what

540
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean.

541
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 5: Well, if it's not if you say pieces, but if

542
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 5: you ain't got the ensemble on, how do you make

543
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 5: it flow? So how do you put Balenciyaga with LV

544
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 5: how do you put you know, I mean with Gucci?

545
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: So how do you make it?

546
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Because you gotta run away from the prince, you know

547
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's a fly person.

548
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay away from the Prince. I don't

549
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: want to.

550
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: I don't want you to really know. This is that

551
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: you gotta really know when you walk past me, you

552
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: gotta be interfested. And you know what you got on Marjella,

553
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: he got he got J W Anderson T shirt on.

554
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what.

555
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because the out loud to me this country,

556
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna never wear like the Gucci G

557
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: print or the Louis v Je all the way printed

558
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: up top and bottom out.

559
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 5: But you will wear a piece Okay, it might be

560
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: a Lewis jacket or a shirt or something, but you're

561
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 5: not gonna have the lewid pants or the Gucci.

562
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: Match that the bottom man, that's mannequin.

563
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we can't.

564
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: We can't be in there looking like the little statue that.

565
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: But so if you were to put a piece together,

566
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 5: you know, like, okay, you got some jeans on and

567
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 5: you got the blinds Yaga the hoodie.

568
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: So that's what would you what would you classify as this?

569
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: This is a cave.

570
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: Look this casual man, you know, this is this casual,

571
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: but it's still stepping because the branch is what it is,

572
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: like chrome. I got a bliss Yaga, and the way

573
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: it fits me like can take a little. It looks

574
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: better than that if you fit somebody else but you.

575
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: And the watchers too. Yeah you, I mean that seemed

576
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: to me.

577
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 5: I noticed a lot of guys, I mean klied Drake,

578
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 5: obviously lebron Hole, a lot of guys in the watches.

579
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: Now when did that trend come about?

580
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean me personally, I started wearing Bustown watches probably

581
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: like in twenty sixteen. I did that because shot at

582
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: by Jewlil Elliott he put me on game. He like, hey,

583
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: look them diamonds because I'm buying from him. He like

584
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: the diamonds you're buying. He like, man, if you can

585
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: get connected to the store anyway, you need to start

586
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: buying watches from them because that hold the value. Because

587
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: he was teaching me about diamonds, the different ones, the

588
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: tricks that Julius play.

589
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 3: He was giving me the game, and he like, man,

590
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: your watch ain't gonna be worth nothing.

591
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: He like, you rather buy something that's fifty sixty seventy

592
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: thousand and then two three years ago. By now it's

593
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: two fifties. An investment. It's more of an investment piece

594
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: than anything, you know what I'm saying. They go up

595
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: higher in real estate sometimes it does.

596
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 5: It does so because I like, I mean, you see

597
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 5: the on the right hand you got you know, you

598
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: ifed out, but on the rig you just got the

599
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 5: ap rolls.

600
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: And also, this is another thing too about the playing watches.

601
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: It introduced you to people that might wouldn't look your way.

602
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: It definitely introducts your peace because they know, they're like,

603
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: oh is that a protect.

604
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: It's like a solid world. They know what's going on,

605
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: they know what it is they know what's going on,

606
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: and they know.

607
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 5: You know, if you got a nobbage to everybody, go

608
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 5: know where the role he is, right, But when you

609
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 5: start getting to protect, you start getting the aps and

610
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 5: things of that nature to reach our meeting.

611
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: They're like, really else, really, I ain't gonna lie. I

612
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: got a story for that. One time was in Vegs.

613
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm at the crowd table because I don't really go

614
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: to the private room because I feel like the energy

615
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: from the people sometimes make me win, yeah, instead of

616
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: being so sal So I'm at the regular table and

617
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: this white guy come and grab my wrists and say,

618
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: how do you got this watch? And I said, what

619
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: you mean? How I got to watch? He's like, what

620
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: do you know about the watch? It was a it

621
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: was a patent, yeah, fifty nine eighty, the big one.

622
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah road.

623
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. Just continue that, mam, now you you talk?

624
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?

625
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

626
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: So, and I'm like, he like, how old are you?

627
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: Made him start asking me my age and everything. I'm like, man,

628
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I ain't never. I was twenty eight during the time.

629
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: And he's like that's a great watch man, And it

630
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't offend me like that. They kind of put me

631
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: on game like I know it's kind of offensible, but

632
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, it brought attention.

633
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: To somebody who I stand, understand the language, and I

634
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: like to be presented like that.

635
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: To take notles is where it's at.

636
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: That's us to do that.

637
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 5: You never feel that, So let me ask you this, Yeah,

638
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: outside of real estate, what's the most expensive purchase?

639
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: Most expensive purchase outside of real estate? Mercy expensive purchase

640
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: outside of real estate?

641
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: MM, I can say over time, like over time, I don't.

642
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: I ain't never. I don't think I never spent on

643
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: over on real estate, like I ain't been no dumb

644
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: for and spend no mill dollars on no car stuff

645
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: like that.

646
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: I ain't.

647
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: I ain't going for that right no matter how much

648
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: I got, is it don't be making sense?

649
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: Like the biggest thing, you know, cars be like three

650
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: four hundred, bought them a couple of times, but.

651
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: You should be good Na tho, what car?

652
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: What car that you you don't have that you feel

653
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: like you gotta get before it's all said and done,

654
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: because I'm sure you've had everything in the color and

655
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 5: the lambow and the ferraris and you had everything, So

656
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 5: what is it that OFFSET would like to have that

657
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 5: he doesn't have.

658
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: As a car.

659
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's so many cars I want.

660
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't want a Bagatti, a face ship. I don't

661
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: want to go God.

662
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I want to live Ferrario because like Ferrari, I feel

663
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: like the prestigion is of Ferrari.

664
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know they discontinue that, so you have

665
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: to get one on the secondary marketing. You know they

666
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: like times X.

667
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they about like spied men for sure. It's a

668
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: uh but what you're gonna do with it? I'm gonna

669
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: drive it.

670
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: But then now you can't put that many miles on

671
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: the cause then you're gonna decrease the value because I

672
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: know you're gonna want to get up at it.

673
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah you know why.

674
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: But see, this is the reason why I ain't dead it.

675
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Though I could have did I could have I could

676
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: have when him snatched a lot for all up, I

677
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: ain't did that because at the end of the day,

678
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: it's like you're saying, and then one time, I ain't

679
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was buying a Rose Roys here in

680
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: LA at the Rose Rose dealership, and then I asked

681
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: you how much boot is he?

682
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: Like?

683
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: Three point six million? It was the nose and the

684
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: chat run and he like, but listen, man, let me

685
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: tell you some real black dude, like, let me tell

686
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: you some real shit.

687
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: Though.

688
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: As soon as you drive off, you lose a million.

689
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Soon you drive off. He like, you know, if you

690
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: drive a coloring and off, you might lose fifty that

691
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: day right back there. But with this car, you're gonna

692
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: lose a million dollars immediately, just soon you pull off

693
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: the lot.

694
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow.

695
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: He was like, I would never buy that car if

696
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: I was you, and he the dude who's selling me

697
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: the cars.

698
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

699
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: So I listened to that. I pick up on that. So,

700
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: but God is out of the out of I ain't

701
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: done with the money. You gotta have the money put up.

702
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I ain't done with them. Mo.

703
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it ain't how much you make, it's how much

704
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 5: you keep nowday exactly. You gotta put that up. I'm

705
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 5: gonna give off set three brands. You can only wear

706
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: three brands for the rest of your life. What you're

707
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: going with, damn for the rest of your life. You

708
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: go three brand only.

709
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Nike for shore. How you can't lose with Nike forever?

710
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: Only three.

711
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Yep, I gotta go Nike Jordan's that's the same thing though,

712
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: so I get to a pass on that. Yeah, So

713
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just stay. I'm gonna say, Nikekay, you.

714
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: Go higher in fashion if you like.

715
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm trying to make sure you talking about forever.

716
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you.

717
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: That's that's a long time. That's a long time. Some

718
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: of you can't win forether uh a long last thing

719
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: brand and I could work for a long fether Margella okay,

720
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say, but listen, as long as them

721
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: is still in that, which is the creative director stayed up, fellas, you're.

722
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 5: Good, Okay, I'm gonna get your choice. AJ one's there

723
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 5: a f ones, the Jordan one of the Air Force

724
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: one Russ.

725
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me that? And I really collect.

726
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: Shoe man, Yeah, I don't. That's why I'm asking you.

727
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I gotta your f F one F one for so

728
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: especially like two thousand, two thousand and eight untouchable.

729
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, a F one untouchable Jordan Wance.

730
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Only.

731
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: The reason why I didn't picked the Jordan Wanes is

732
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: because I like the old I like the retro Jordan Wance.

733
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: I like the eighty five right, you know what I mean,

734
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: the originals, and you can't really find them. I got

735
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: five pair though, but you can't really find them nowhere.

736
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: That's why you can't. You got them all?

737
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got them all. Every time I catch a

738
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: pair on buyding.

739
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: So let me ask you a question. How do you

740
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 5: get into collecting shoes? Obviously you grew up in the era.

741
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: I mean I grew up in the era where Michael

742
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: Jordan burst onto the scene and get those shoes. But

743
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: we were didn't have the wherewith all the thing like

744
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: we got the shoot we warm, we ain't get to shoot.

745
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 5: We ain't have no money first of all, to get

746
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: one to rock, one to stop. Yeah, a lot of

747
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 5: money back in eight I was back a lot of

748
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: my time. My mama tell you to shoot. My mama

749
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 5: ain't buy.

750
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: Me no Jordan. It was too high. So I had

751
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: to get old enough and get to trade in my

752
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: m axes and you know, in school, get to trade

753
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: my air mattress.

754
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: Uh for for some Jay's or do it like that.

755
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: So that's what made me get into it because the

756
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: same thing you said, I couldn't really I couldn't. My

757
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: mama didn't didn't have the money, just be she we

758
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: was on limit three boys's a long time. It was

759
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: just my mama before she met her husband, you know

760
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I didn't have the opportunity to

761
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: get no jay's. I remember the two for eighty.

762
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Nine, nine nine for one.

763
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: That was like a lottery for me, black and white

764
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: every school year that was all the.

765
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: One used to be faulted, dollar pair faulted.

766
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, for eighty nine special, we're gonna go white.

767
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna go black and white, gonna get one on

768
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: special occasion. But yeah, and then at my school, it

769
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: ain't gonna loto at my school to night. By the

770
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: time I got about ninth grade, you know, everybody start

771
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: feeling themselves. Yeah, if you came to my school with

772
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: like fake j's, it was like a known thing in

773
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: my school, Burke my high school. You coming there with

774
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: some fake j It's kind of sad because everybody knew

775
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the protocol.

776
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: You know, in the morning time, cafeteria, breakfast time, you

777
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: know you coming in, you.

778
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Gotta come up with it. You gotta be right in

779
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: with them.

780
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: It's like a protocol. People that don't know your homeboys.

781
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: Whoever them folks gonna put they gonna shit on the arm,

782
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: sit at the table and lift their feet up and

783
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: pointed to shoe. So it was an embarrassment thing. So

784
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: you had to be right stepping. You couldn't come with them,

785
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: fake them food gazers. When did you start collecting shoes?

786
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: When did you say, you know what, I'm bill sneak,

787
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm becoming sneaker head. When did you start? And do

788
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: you wear do you wear your shoes? About alemb Grade?

789
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: When I was able to finish and do stuff to

790
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: get shoes, probably like a lem grade. And if you

791
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: go look at my old pictures, like I was having

792
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: a lip a sixty's on you know what I mean?

793
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: I always was having I was having the j's in

794
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: the Polo era when we used to wear cargos and

795
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: Polos and America iguan out that was in you had

796
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: to have the J. So about lem Grade because like

797
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: I said, I couldn't.

798
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't. From from middle school on up, it was

799
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: it was the same routine.

800
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: F four one.

801
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: When how many pairs of shoes do you think you have?

802
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Probably like.

803
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 5: Six thousand, fifty five six thousand. Yeah, yes, sir, do

804
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: you got your do? When you have a damn a room,

805
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 5: a house, a house for shoes.

806
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: I got multiple walls and I got houses. I got

807
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: house in New York, here in la and Atlanta, so

808
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: they spread it out on East Coast.

809
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: What's your favorite shoe to collect?

810
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: I gotta say.

811
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: Fos One's bro because it's more.

812
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: It's more. Let me tell you why. Let me tell

813
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: you why. Let me tell you why, because it's more.

814
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: It's most selections. It's like it was a lot of

815
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: collapse done with them back then. And the leather on

816
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the Force one from two thousand, two thousand and eight,

817
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: it's just a little different. But my favorite Jordan is

818
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Jordan sixteens and the forest. But the forest you can

819
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: get with the sixteens. They always ripped, Like my Gingers.

820
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: I got like seven pairs. Every time I wear them.

821
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: One time they're coming out, they ripped because they're old.

822
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: Right, So what's the what's the most expensive pair of

823
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 5: sneakers that you own?

824
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: Martinmen Flies They're like one hundred thousand, but I didn't

825
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: pay that though their masks, Yeah, Man's the old was

826
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: the one that I got, the one that come on

827
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: that they tie for real, And both of my shoes work,

828
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: and they put up somewhere on ice.

829
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna wear them?

830
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: I pay, I want, I want them to. I wear

831
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: all my shoes. Yeah, I wear all my shoes. I

832
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: believe you ain't no shoe collect that if you don't

833
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: wear the shoe I don't.

834
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: So you ain't gonna try to get up all from then?

835
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: No?

836
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Never. And I called him for the sweet twenty five thousand.

837
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: You call him?

838
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: What call him twenty five dude? Here in La. That's

839
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: so staged.

840
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: I think he needed the money and I had it.

841
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: I got the money you need.

842
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 5: So what's the one thing that you've bought purchased in

843
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 5: your life that you like? Man, I should have left

844
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: that alone.

845
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: I can say what I it's not a specific purchase.

846
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: It's just like I gave a lot of money away,

847
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: like family friends, loved ones and family friends. But I

848
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: don't regret it though, because at the end of the day,

849
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: my folks need to help. But like now I'm getting older,

850
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, now you hold that money a little tighter.

851
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: You ain't a cause you know they figure you got

852
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: let you bought a whole five.

853
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: You're like, all I was green at one point, I

854
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: was just giving that way.

855
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then got to the point where, like you know,

856
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: you get to start seeing your real folks when it

857
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: happened though.

858
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 5: You get to see who you're because when you don't

859
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: give it to them now, all of a sudden they

860
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: say you acting funny.

861
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: You don't get to him. It's now you're hearing the story. Man,

862
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: bro what they was saying. You be your crabby why

863
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: they gave you all this and this and this and that.

864
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: But I'm a crowd now I'm supposed to be. I

865
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: ain't looked at that disappear and then then I got

866
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: real friends off. I don't want to get it mixed. True,

867
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Like a lot of my boys from like seventeen years ago,

868
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: we've been we've been friends. It be the folks that

869
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: come like that you meet through through time and you

870
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: and they becoming your boy and now they part of

871
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: the course stoll like that. And then it'd be them

872
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: to be like because my real homites be like they

873
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: won't even ask what I have to ask them out

874
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: because you know your family, your brother, you can see

875
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: it like on your like yeah, you're good, right and.

876
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: Even if they say I'm cool, you know they're not good.

877
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: You know they're not good.

878
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

879
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: You know it.

880
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful to have that's them type people. I

881
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of people like that too, And I

882
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: got homies. It'll be like, hey, stop giving that niggas money.

883
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: Stop giving them money to another bro like to another homie, like, hey, man,

884
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: stop doing that. So I'm good. I got good. I

885
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: got a good sir.

886
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 5: I always tell people all the time, you got to

887
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: put limits on what you give because takers will never

888
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 5: put limits.

889
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: On what they take exactly. So free.

890
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: So investing, what's what's some of the tips? I mean,

891
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 5: what are some of the things that you know you're like, man,

892
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: glad I got in on that. Damn I missed that opportunity.

893
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 5: So what as far as money, because like you said,

894
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 5: you come into some money, you get money. You got

895
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 5: money here, and you're like, it's not how much you make, it's.

896
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: How much you keep.

897
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 5: Exactly, you can make ten million, but if you give

898
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 5: a nine nine million, nine hundred thousand away as opposed

899
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 5: to eight, I got a million and I kept nine

900
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 5: hundred thousand. So how how does offset go? About delegating

901
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: where the money goes.

902
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: I invested in Phase Clan, I got real estate, and

903
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's just I can't say what it is,

904
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, I can't say I have a big investment

905
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: that's on your phone to deal with avatars. And I

906
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: had actually listened to my mama to this. So the

907
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: dude was here in LA in Chinatown and he was

908
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: working out of his his little apartment, and she brought

909
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: me to his apartment and then he needed like two

910
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five thousand dollars. And now now I

911
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: can show you an article where it's like up to

912
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: like seven hundred million. But I don't never talk about

913
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: You're the first person I ever talked to about it's

914
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: an avatar. So it's like, but I'm not allowed to

915
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: really speak on Well you good? You straight?

916
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Then you sure you want to make music?

917
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

918
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I want to make you good.

919
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: You got.

920
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Later though, See what I learned is everybody investments hit

921
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: around like mid forties, right, Like lecognized with Ring and

922
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: all that, and like even Juicy Jay.

923
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: So I'm cool.

924
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I know I got some up the river, but as

925
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: of right now, I save a lot of money though

926
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: I got a lot of kids.

927
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, you gotta say it's special. I got kid,

928
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: I got kids, still got them. You had kids, I

929
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: got kids. I've been there.

930
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: You already know.

931
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: I know you know.

932
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: And I got two daughters too. You got two weddings coming,

933
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I got two dogship. I don't want to say I

934
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: ain't ready for them days or them to talk. I

935
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about that.

936
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: So obviously the avatar we can't mention about. Let me

937
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: ask you this, what have you learned about the since

938
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 5: you entered? What have you learned most about the music street?

939
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 5: Because I always hear his cutthrow they do your band,

940
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: They put you on these deals where they take it

941
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 5: all the money or you get it advanced and blah

942
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: blah blah.

943
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: So what a offset learned most about the business?

944
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: Knowledge is key and you can't blame You can't blame

945
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: the system because the system gonna keep going. So what

946
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: you gotta do is, like I did, you gotta adjust

947
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: to the system, get to learning what ask questions like

948
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm asking questions. I don't want you to before you

949
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: give me the money, I'm gonna ask you what you

950
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: what I gotta give you?

951
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

952
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: See, because at first when I first came in the game,

953
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: Well you got two million for me man running publish,

954
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: you got five millions running not really reading the terns,

955
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: not really understanding. And then your lawyer ain't gonna tell you.

956
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: Your lawyer gonna tell you what you gotta do. But

957
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: I feel like if you deal with your lawyer, like

958
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: I talk to my lawyer to day to day, well

959
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm asking questions and he know, like, I'm gonna ask

960
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: this question, and I need you to break it down

961
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: into a way that I can understand, so I understand

962
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: what I'm signing up to because I've been a dumb

963
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: artis before.

964
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: Just sign and shit, just get because they get you

965
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: with the money. You gotta thank you.

966
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Twenty years old, these folks like, look, you got a

967
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: hot song, let me give you a two million dollars.

968
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna own you. And then you got

969
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: five albums, but then soon the album come out. Most

970
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: people don't know when your album come out. You at

971
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: an artist's level like me, Man, your first month, they

972
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: done made two three million, But it ain't your cut,

973
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't your money, and it's not counting

974
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: to your recruitment. But on what they own that then

975
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: recoup the two three million, and they still got you

976
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: in three million dollars that and quarterly counting it down

977
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: and they still got to spend the money to get so.

978
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time they make an investment. So

979
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: you gotta understand the business terms and understand that business.

980
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: These folks need to make the money so and they

981
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: giving you a lot of money, but you also got

982
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: to learn like, okay, cool, what are my deliverables for

983
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: this money? What's the time limit on this? On the deliverables?

984
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: And then me, I love my label, car work, my Lebel,

985
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: Capitol Records, I work with. I'm gonna go to the office.

986
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down in politic if I got a complaint,

987
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to be like an asshole about it.

988
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get away to figure out the game.

989
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: How can I politics better? How can I rub shoulders

990
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: so this person can know because a lot of time

991
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: we blame the label, but we ain't really gave them

992
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: no type of information. We just turn our eyebum and

993
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: like make this go. And it don't work like that.

994
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: It's a whole process to everything. So did you learn

995
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: do you have to learn the hard way. These lessons, yes,

996
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: had a lot of hardway for shore man, like being

997
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: trapped in deals or be being signed signed into one deal,

998
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: like not owning not on all my rights now, but

999
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: like not owning your rights to your music.

1000
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: All that is like you controlled help help me out

1001
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: with this.

1002
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 5: Okay, there's ownership, there's masters, and there's publishing. All those

1003
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: are the same thing. Well, you said there's ownership, Let

1004
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 5: mess your question. So is publishing and masters? Is that

1005
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 5: the same thing or two different things? That's okay?

1006
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: So you own the publisher, my masters you don't, or

1007
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: the percentage of my managers?

1008
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Hunter, are you gonna try to get them?

1009
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to, you know, but you gotta just contribute.

1010
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: You gotta, like I just said, you gotta finish your deliverables.

1011
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: So say, for answer, you get signed, they sign you

1012
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: three million dollars five albums, but your album turn might

1013
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: say you can't drop an album for nine to twelve months,

1014
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: So we do the math. That's some years, that's years,

1015
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: four years, four or five years, maybe get six years.

1016
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: Because the average artists ain't just finish drop no album

1017
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: exactly on the nine months. So it's still gonna be

1018
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: a stretch you're creating, and then why that time while

1019
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: that's going on, they still gotta spend the money into you,

1020
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: so it's doubling down. So it's like most artists, you

1021
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: don't see no check from the label, but the one

1022
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: that you sign, that's it. That's it. Now publishing gonna

1023
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: go the publish. That's what publishing come in. They gonna

1024
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: go see where all your musicment licensed, get all the licenses.

1025
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: You can recoup through streams and all that, but it

1026
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: be pennies to a dollar, so it might so instead

1027
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: like for me, my publisher, I have an admin deal

1028
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: where we are in an agreement that you will go

1029
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: get my stuff. I'll get your piece, hud, but I'm

1030
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: not gonna put it out on your hand and you

1031
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: can go grab everything. Then I get the CRuMs because

1032
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be left in the deal forever. So

1033
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: the purpose is that is to recoup and renew every

1034
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: time every two every two three years, you renewing without

1035
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: having to drop a project. Because you know, with catalog,

1036
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: I got a long catalog with migos and my solo stuff.

1037
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: It recoups like I'm finna go re up now right.

1038
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm finna reup soon after this album.

1039
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 5: So the streaming, because I've heard some people say streaming

1040
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: ain't no money.

1041
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: Then I didn't talk to twenty one Savage.

1042
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: Savage says, yeah, Hey, they cut meal check every month,

1043
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: so they gotta be some money in it.

1044
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: What's your take on what's your take on streaming?

1045
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: I get cut a checked too. Streaming is it's not

1046
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: for everybody, Like I ain't gonna like Savage gotta he

1047
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: did it right, like you get hot first, you get

1048
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: a risk, you go. He went platinum before he was

1049
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: signed to anything, so he got his master's everything. But

1050
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: that don't be that's like he like a ten percent

1051
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: be like a timber Center with his situation. Okay, but

1052
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but it's most artists streaming ain't nothing,

1053
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: but like U to me, I'm gonna say it's a

1054
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: hype thing because you get you get sound, the stage money.

1055
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: But like you might have all these beings and streams,

1056
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: they ain't finish registered to to that. You ain't gonna

1057
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: be getting no check like that all the time because

1058
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: it's that check is going to the label for signing you.

1059
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: Right, So if you let's just say they.

1060
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: Own the rights, they own the masters, they own the posting.

1061
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 5: So oh so in order for you to get that

1062
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 5: the billion stream, for it to hit your pocket, you

1063
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: need to own the publisher, the catalog and all that

1064
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: other stuff.

1065
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it see, it's two, it's it's two things

1066
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: for that. See, I don't wanna talk to political all right.

1067
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: Fens is like some folks that just be hard headed.

1068
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: You gotta give you gotta get with them folks a

1069
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: little bit because they're still a machine, like the label

1070
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: is still a machine. Sure, I'll never tell nobody to

1071
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: be just straight independent, even though people say it all

1072
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: the time. But it's like, you gotta have you already,

1073
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: gotta have some money put to the side before you

1074
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: just say I'm gonna be an independent artist straightforward. I'd

1075
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: rather be with a machine because the partnership and I

1076
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: sell music, and my music sales.

1077
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 5: Right because they're gonna push it, they're gonna help push

1078
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 5: it out there. And you because basically you you're spending

1079
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: their money making money. Yeah, but you have but you

1080
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 5: have to position yourself right though, off set because.

1081
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Leverage too, like but you gotta you gotta, you gotta

1082
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: you gotta not take the money upfront. Like if I'm

1083
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: talking to a new artist, I'm gonna tell him, like listen,

1084
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Billzo buzzz up to the highest peak that they can

1085
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: get you. And if you can't get past that peak,

1086
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: then you get with them, folks, because then you got

1087
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: marketing and branding, which we don't be knowing a lot about.

1088
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But be smart. But like if,

1089
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: like I said with Salva, he leveraged yourself great because

1090
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: he put he got hot, he went platinum, he had

1091
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: already sold a million copies before a label he signed

1092
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: to a label. So now that's leverage. Like I just said,

1093
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: you get leveraged. Now you can walk in down the

1094
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: table what you want. Hey, look man, I want my masters.

1095
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: I want this, this, this, and even if you get

1096
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: it masters, I'm only giving you ten percent and then

1097
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: you in the great position. But most artists ain't like that.

1098
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: So what I recommend the most artists is, like in

1099
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: steals right now, is figure out your deliverables, your albums,

1100
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: pay attention to them time spans, and you dropping them albums.

1101
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: We'll try to if you get if you get so

1102
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: say you drop an album and it was your first

1103
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: buzz album, that second album, do better notice than that

1104
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: buzz album. Then start to try to renegotiate, because everything

1105
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: is for negotiation, especially if you're making the money.

1106
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Now.

1107
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: If you now, if you grabbing all the money yourself,

1108
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: doing your shows, doing all that, and you ain't really

1109
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: blowing up as a brand, they probably ain't gonna rock

1110
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: with you. It just needs to make sense. You need

1111
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: to make sure you building your stuff up so you

1112
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: can come with them with delivers. Hey, this album I

1113
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: sold fifty thousand, My second one I sold one hundred thousand.

1114
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: So can I change this turn from twelve months to

1115
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe six months, because because now you need to be

1116
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: able to drop music rapidly anyway, right that wait in

1117
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: a year, two years, somebody else be then came through,

1118
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: two three folks. Then we then came through.

1119
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: Kick the door in.

1120
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: It got hot and people forget about you nowadays quick.

1121
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: You gotta stay consistent.

1122
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Have streaming help or hurt. Hip hop.

1123
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: It helped. I see a lot of people say it hurt,

1124
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: but they're not I see a lot of older artists

1125
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: say that, but y'all not seeing the money we're seeing

1126
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: it Back in Okay, fencing back in the day be

1127
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: you could be selling albums but not on the top

1128
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: a list of status, and you ain't finna have no

1129
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: money like that. It's folks that ain't never been on

1130
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: the billboards with ms because people are streaming. People are streaming.

1131
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: Streaming don't always resonate because it's artists that stream big

1132
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: and don't never get they don't need they don't go

1133
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: to radio, they don't need the radio. They stream big.

1134
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: It's extreme streame stream and then that when you having

1135
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: high numbers and streams that create festivals and different shows

1136
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: and fan bases. Is into that. Now the kids are

1137
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: into who got dang? This song got a lot of streams?

1138
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: This this person got a lot of monthly listeners. People

1139
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: look at that now. Back then people weren't really on

1140
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: it unless you did some amazing Oh he just first

1141
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: week million cells. And if you look at hip hop

1142
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: back then, it was probably like five six artists like

1143
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: fifty Am. It was like wang. It was only a

1144
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: few of them whole. It was only a few of

1145
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: them doing it, and it was a lot of rappers

1146
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: and they You would see the difference in the money

1147
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: with us streaming, even though you might not see a

1148
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: streaming check. Man. If you're a streaming artist, man, they

1149
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: give you a lot of opportunities. They give you a

1150
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: lot of people people because people are into that now.

1151
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: People dive into that, the kids is into that, streaming

1152
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: artists people. It's crazy now. I feel like now that

1153
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: people are more into trends, like what's trending? You know

1154
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, so if all of a sudden,

1155
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: all the blogs posted like, oh, this song got five

1156
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: million streams a couple of days later, they might have

1157
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: seven million streams just from that, just from people seeing that,

1158
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: because people go, people getting on stuff.

1159
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: Like what's your take on TikTok because TikTok is threatened

1160
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 5: to remove some of it from their platform because people

1161
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: are using the music.

1162
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: What's your take on TikTok?

1163
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I TikTok cool. My kids love TikTok.

1164
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: What I just as an artist who makes great music,

1165
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I feel like it should

1166
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: be Also, TikTok needs to be kunt as extreme too, right,

1167
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because and this but I'm

1168
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real too. TikTok is taking a listener

1169
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: away because they going to instead of like listen to

1170
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: a beautiful art of song. They going to the part

1171
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: that might it might be ten seconds, fifteen to twenty seconds,

1172
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: and people and when people is doing it so much,

1173
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: it makes people feel like they gotta just get discovered

1174
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: from TikTok like new artists. You don't gotta do that, bro,

1175
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Good music gonna be good music regardless. But I be

1176
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: haaring a lot of TikTok music now. I ain't hanging

1177
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: on it.

1178
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: I saluted.

1179
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: I saluted it because I don't want to seem like

1180
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm hanging on the other serrations. I just feel like

1181
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: it do kind of close the door on the artist,

1182
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: like on the artist's side. But it can blow up.

1183
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: It can make your catalog blow up, like Fancis. You

1184
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: might have a song you dropped four years ago and

1185
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: then go viral tomorrow and it rechart. That's the good.

1186
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: That's why I say it's good and the bad.

1187
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 5: So when when you said artists going viral, do you

1188
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 5: believe that's that's sustainable? Like you have a song and

1189
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it just goes viral. Can that artist?

1190
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 5: Artists have sustainability?

1191
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: For sure?

1192
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why, Because every person that went viral,

1193
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: every every generation, y'all. Just older generation just ain't called

1194
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: the viral. When somebody had a hot song that you

1195
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: never known and then the song becomes hot and they

1196
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: are new artists, that's viral.

1197
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So.

1198
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: Virus. It depends on the art the artists. It's just

1199
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: if it's a great artist or not. Now, sometimes people

1200
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: go viral and they don't be able to do nothing

1201
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: after that. They might not be the best artist. But

1202
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I feel like everything has always been viral and the

1203
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: music periodre like Michael Jackson when he first dropped, when

1204
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: he when he first dropped off the wall.

1205
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 2: Off the wall, and then when he dropped bad.

1206
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: It's viral. It's everywhere. Viral don't mean nothing, but everybody

1207
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: see it and everybody turning into it and channeling in

1208
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: on this one thing. Oh So I don't I don't

1209
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: want to ever take away from the viraul. Now it's

1210
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: people that do gimmicks. I feel like, give mix don't last. Okay,

1211
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: That's that's what I would say, gimmicks don't last.

1212
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: What's the state of hip hop right now?

1213
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: If we're looking at the whole scale, like we're talking

1214
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: about you talking about like the state of hip hop

1215
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: looking at all of hip hop history and everything.

1216
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: Are you saying, how about this the state of hip

1217
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 5: hop currently as opposed to where it was when you

1218
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 5: were you remember what hip hop was?

1219
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: There is hip hop still that. I don't know what

1220
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: folks youre talking about.

1221
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: It's still that. Why would it not be?

1222
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 3: Everything is culturally moved from hip hop period.

1223
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. It is a commercial

1224
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. It's all

1225
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: still brought to hip hop at the end of the day.

1226
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: So you don't believe hip hop is the climate.

1227
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't believe so, not while I'm in it. But

1228
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: the hell I was like saying, is declining right now

1229
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm in it, not no certain and it's way more

1230
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: rich Black folks off of that made it. Ever, it

1231
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: ain't never been no execs in the buildings like it

1232
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: is now. It's black execs in the buildings, like in

1233
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: the label buildings making decisions more than it's ever been.

1234
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: And we still run the culture. And then if you

1235
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: still look up the quoters people just be talking. If

1236
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: you still look up the quoters that they make that

1237
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: they label make, ask somebody that next time you introduce

1238
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: somebody like that's in the music business. At execs, ask

1239
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: them where that money come from? Pop? Country or hip hop?

1240
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: At the end of the at the end of the quarters,

1241
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: it's hip hop because hip hop is coming so much,

1242
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: it's flooding the market.

1243
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: It's funny that you say country. We see Beyonce make

1244
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: a country song.

1245
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Texas Hold Them Hard went to number one on

1246
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 5: the Country and the Billboard chart.

1247
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: What made you?

1248
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: What?

1249
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 5: What in your best guess? Obviously you're not in her head,

1250
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 5: you're not in her team's head. What do you Why

1251
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 5: do you think Beyonce charted it out because that was

1252
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: a huge risk. Now she's big enough, she's a brand

1253
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 5: for herself. But she's big enough to take that risk,

1254
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: to take that chance. Why I don't even feel like

1255
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 5: it was original chance. She's a real talented artist. You

1256
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 5: can't play with her like. You can't put her in

1257
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 5: no box. You can't put artists. You can't put artists

1258
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: in a box. That said, it's an artist like, you

1259
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 5: can't put.

1260
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: Them in the box. And if you just look up

1261
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: history from Houston, Texas, they ride horses, They country for real.

1262
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: She got folks in her family country. I got folks

1263
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: in my family in Greenville, Tarboro, Greenville, I mean Tarborvioe,

1264
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: North Carolina and Greenville, North Carolina is real country folks

1265
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: and country music come from black folks. I don't know

1266
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: where is the new thing where it's like because I

1267
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: seen somebody get mad at her doing the song or something.

1268
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. But folks gotta not

1269
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: take don't try to. You can't take our history too

1270
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: like you.

1271
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 5: Don't tell you but you don't think that was a

1272
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 5: risk for her, consider who she is. Look, she can

1273
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 5: always go back to what she was doing. She's still

1274
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 5: one of the biggest artists in the world. So even

1275
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 5: if it didn't she had major success doing it. But

1276
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 5: even if she didn't have success, she did always go said, Okay,

1277
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 5: I'm just over here. I don't feel like it's a

1278
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 5: risk because she's an artist.

1279
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: Like we didn't got caught up in this thing where

1280
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, if they do that, they tripping or

1281
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: that's not you're supposed to be doing this. You was

1282
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: an artist. It's no, it's no. It's like go back

1283
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: to Whitnam Houston and Michael Jackson.

1284
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: Bro.

1285
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: If you listen to Michael Jackson and Jackson five in

1286
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: the beginning, it's love, love, love, and then you hear

1287
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: bad and Dirty Diana, that sounds like a rock song.

1288
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not no limit to

1289
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: if you're a great artists, not a limit to. It's

1290
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: not a ceiling on you. I don't feel like it

1291
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: was no risk like she makes she made country music

1292
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: and she and it sounded good too, right, So.

1293
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: You would you be willing to experiment.

1294
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: I'll do anything I get on any I get on

1295
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: any song I done.

1296
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: Did E d M. You're gonna do country? I tried.

1297
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna wait on.

1298
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 3: That right now, right now, now, right now. I'll do

1299
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: it anything that I feel I could do anything.

1300
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: You know. You was on the renasce to. What was

1301
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: that like? Bro?

1302
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: It was it was it was like, it's crazy, crazy, Bro,

1303
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie it's crazy. Like the production, how

1304
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: she do the show, the showmanship, how to treat, how

1305
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: you treated, and like how the fantasy treated inside of

1306
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: the show. She amazing, it's amazing. Bro, ain't gonna lie

1307
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: like it's crazy.

1308
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: I mean NonStop, two hours of NonStop dancing, entertaining.

1309
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: She man, it's a lot of It's like a storyline.

1310
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: I want you there.

1311
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of oo eye moments, a lot

1312
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: of moments you It's like the energy is just moving

1313
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: in different realms.

1314
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: But you did an electric fly. I mean, what made

1315
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 5: you a hole? Get up there and start doing the

1316
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 5: electrics lide?

1317
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It felt like we was

1318
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: at the barbecue, man. I mean, you know you don't.

1319
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: You can'tnot be at the blade. You can't be at

1320
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 5: the cook guy at the barbecue and you gotta hit it.

1321
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: You can't right that saying cool? You got to hit that, man.

1322
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 5: You got to get in there.

1323
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: Man, it's a vibe, it's the energy thing. Like everybody

1324
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: was happy. I felt good, like the show was a

1325
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: beautiful show and it was just a moment and it

1326
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: one like something while you were thinking, it was just

1327
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: like you was at the cookout. Like what I'm saying,

1328
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: like you with the family like lock.

1329
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: Then it's electric.

1330
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: It's electric.

1331
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 5: So what can fans that's seeing offset for the very

1332
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 5: first time solo? What the can they expect going to

1333
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 5: your concert.

1334
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing backflips after a while, I'm hanging from the ceiling,

1335
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm touching the fans, I'm getting in the crowd with you.

1336
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna turn up, were gonna have a good time.

1337
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. I want you to leave out with

1338
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: the experience. Like damn, I didn't know he was like that.

1339
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything that's too cool. I

1340
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: ain't trying to be too cool for school. I might

1341
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: never have to sweat. I want everybody to have a

1342
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: great time. Like I said in my production, I put

1343
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot of I spent a lot of money into

1344
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: this where it don't even really make sense where they like,

1345
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: oh you, but I'm going hard. I just want to

1346
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: believe investing myself. I believe I got to do something

1347
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: to separate myself from the other artists, and I got

1348
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: to do something that will make me stand out that

1349
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: that that you know I come from a I gotta

1350
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: still represent my roots and where I come from too, bro,

1351
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: I come from to me though. It was a great group,

1352
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and we did things at

1353
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: a high level. So I got to do this at

1354
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: a high level.

1355
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 5: So you believe this is your opportunity to really separate

1356
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 5: yourself from other artists in your field.

1357
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, I am gonna do that. I'm not

1358
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: it's not something I think I'm gonna do it.

1359
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 5: You know you said this is gonna be the greatest show,

1360
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 5: greatest song arder. Yeah, that's what you said. Yes, I

1361
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: read where you went to ushers when he has this resident,

1362
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: say in Vegas, and you studied a lot of what

1363
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 5: he did and the production and the theatrics of him,

1364
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: and you're going to try to are you going to

1365
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: incorporate a lot obviously totally different, Viye, but you're gonna

1366
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 5: incorporate some of the things because you like the way

1367
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 5: his show was produced and the way it was set up.

1368
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: I like the way I had the intimate and he

1369
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: felt like you could reach him and touch him. And

1370
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: then just because I'm looking at a show and a

1371
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: different aspect of I'm an artist, so I'm gonna look

1372
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: at it different. I'm looking at what the fan responses is,

1373
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: how you activate with the fan when he go up

1374
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: the stairs and he get on his DJ thing and

1375
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: he's literally in the crowd with the fans, and they

1376
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: even know how to act. They not even losing it.

1377
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: They know how to act. They keeping the control. But

1378
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: it's like the environment he did, how he did his

1379
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: small setup for him to then go do the super

1380
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: Bowl right. And he from Atlanta too, Like you know,

1381
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: it ain't a lot of people I'm seeing doing that

1382
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: from the A. So he from home. So I feel

1383
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: related to him and shot out of him, and he

1384
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: brought me out. He brought me out on his tour.

1385
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: I was able to perform his tour. How he did

1386
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: like he pought the film aspect of it too was

1387
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: like his backstage where I came from was like club

1388
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: usher and it was like a club in there. And

1389
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: how he was talking to me, how I would be

1390
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: talking to the next artist if I'm don't just come

1391
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: out of the show. I got this camera black and

1392
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: makes sure you be on point right here, bom boom boma,

1393
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: like make sure I'm in pocketed everything to make sure

1394
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: his show is still running. I respect the vacialism.

1395
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so honestly. I read that.

1396
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 5: You said you you spending a lot of your own

1397
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 5: money on this set, on this production. Why was that

1398
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 5: important to you? Because I come I feel like, is

1399
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 5: it a control thing?

1400
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: Not fair to fans from where I come from, and

1401
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: to do less, okay, just do less, It's not I

1402
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's fair, and I don't feel like

1403
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I would be respected doing the show simple, like a

1404
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: simple show. I'll just be in the midst of everybody

1405
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: else doing simple shows. I've been in the game eleven years,

1406
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: so I gotta come stepping. I gotta be I gotta.

1407
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: I want you to respect me when you leave out

1408
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the building.

1409
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 5: Right, Why was it so important? Because I look, I

1410
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: haven't been to a rap show and since Hammier was

1411
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 5: a hatchet. But no it it's been a while, a

1412
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 5: while set.

1413
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: You gotta get outside about since since EMC.

1414
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: Halma, No, I ain't No, I got it.

1415
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 5: Now, you got to go back. I'm talkingbout I gotta

1416
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 5: go way back. I'm talking about like run DMC and

1417
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 5: instead you've seen concert.

1418
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not being a part of the culture.

1419
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: I about I buy the records. I listen.

1420
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: You ain't buying a record, You're streaming the record.

1421
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, come on, come on side like radio.

1422
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: No, man, you gotta go see the youngest man do

1423
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: their thing. Man, man, you gotta go see them do that.

1424
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: I tell o'clock what time they're coming off. You're coming

1425
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 1: on in five o'clock in the afternoon. No, I can't

1426
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: steal that. Yes you can, man, You gotta rock with it.

1427
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I gotta work in the morning.

1428
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: You at rock with the culture. Man, you can't let

1429
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: it be cause then they're gonna put you in that

1430
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: old head record. That ain't cool. See old head record

1431
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: is only not It's not because of age. It's because

1432
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: you're not culturally involved in the youth. Okay, they call

1433
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of young cats rock at you, Bro.

1434
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: They dude, they do, man, Bro, they like you to.

1435
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: They rock with you, Bro.

1436
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I guess you got you gotta stop

1437
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: one them type pads too.

1438
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: No, I can't do that this you you got to, bro.

1439
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you like I'm trying to tell you.

1440
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: I ain't let them change me.

1441
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: Man about that. Bro, Just you big, I know big

1442
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: for that. Noah.

1443
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 5: See see if I got on if I got on

1444
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 5: big clothes there, hey got to a big clothes.

1445
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: But you I got on these big cargos. Okay, these fit.

1446
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 5: But what I got on when I got what you

1447
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 5: call them? Uh, when I'm out doing stuff for my Laportier, Rob,

1448
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be comfortable.

1449
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: You could be comfortable. I I ain't uncomfortable in that.

1450
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm comfortably in what I got.

1451
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,040
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Speaker 5: Rick Flair drill Whoo Yeah, how did how did? How

1471
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 5: did the Rick Flaird I mean you ar wrestling.

1472
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: I wrestler. I like, right, why I refleed too, And

1473
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: that's my partner, that's my boy got dog.

1474
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: The ad lib So how do you come up with

1475
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: the ad libs?

1476
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: How do you come up with what you It's really

1477
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: a feeling in a in a in a in a

1478
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like just an excitement and feeling and when you're

1479
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: doing the song and it's like it's a gap filler

1480
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 1: and a lot of people and it's simple so people

1481
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: remember it. That's the thing.

1482
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: It's not so complex. It's very simple when I do

1483
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: the wolves or the hurt.

1484
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: When I'm doing that, it's just a standout moment in

1485
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: the song that I feel like a fan, a fan

1486
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: just gonna dive into it.

1487
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: And then you know, Rick Flood did the wools right,

1488
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: so it was on the ride. I had to do

1489
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: it on the song.

1490
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 5: But I read when you you had you had had

1491
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 5: a little little discussion with metro booming for putting for

1492
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 5: putting on the album without your mission.

1493
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: Y'all cleared that up though, Yeah.

1494
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a public thing. That's my real brother. So

1495
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: we was we was, we was going at it about

1496
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: that cause, but I trust him though that so that

1497
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: even him having a choice of being able to do

1498
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: that is because I trust him. But I did not

1499
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: like the song.

1500
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: He he always will tell me, like, bro, it's gonna

1501
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 3: be one of your biggest songs.

1502
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: Six time platinum. Yeah, that was your first platinum record. Yeah,

1503
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: so I had to respect him, respect my boy. It

1504
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: was my first solo platinum.

1505
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah. How was it working with Rick Clair?

1506
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 5: Because, like you said, you're a wrestling fan, and if

1507
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 5: you're a wrestling plan, you know, nature boy, he.

1508
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: Was the same way as I seen on TV.

1509
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the same.

1510
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: He was the exact same person, just a little older,

1511
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: but the same person. He got energy. He ain't He

1512
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: ain't walking around like quiet, No, he loud. And when

1513
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I played respect. So I

1514
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: had reached out to him to the video and he

1515
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: wasn't really so healthy, you know what I mean. And

1516
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: then he said this brought he told me, and I'm

1517
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about this brought him back to life.

1518
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: Just what he say to me, because he said he

1519
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: was sitting at home, he wasn't working with the wrestling game.

1520
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: He wasn't doing none of that no more. And then

1521
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: when I made the song.

1522
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: He said he started to get a lot of calls

1523
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: to like, I guess bring him in, do different, different,

1524
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: different things. So if you always see him and he

1525
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: got a diamond, he got a diamond rick flod chain

1526
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: and I got him too, and he where to this day.

1527
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: Every time I see him on his Instagram or whatever,

1528
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: and he always show loved me in his every time.

1529
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 5: He in his interviews when he asked about the song,

1530
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 5: we only have a couple of more minutes left. But yeah,

1531
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 5: you've gone to jail twice. What what did you learn

1532
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 5: from going to jail?

1533
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: And why did you go?

1534
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: I want to jail more than twice, but damn all,

1535
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: we only got twice.

1536
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: How it out of jail where they do that?

1537
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 5: Uh?

1538
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: What I learned was like to fire Like I was young, tripping,

1539
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was going out the

1540
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: wrong path. But I was just trying to get me

1541
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: some money. I wasn't never doing though, I ain't. I

1542
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: ain't never like. I was just trying to get some

1543
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: money at all time. My brother got fifteen years though.

1544
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: That woke me up. My older brother he probably only

1545
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: been out for two years, so now so you gotta

1546
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: think he got locked up when I was seventeen to

1547
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty two. Wow, you know what I mean.

1548
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: So seeing the pain in my mama eyes, seeing him

1549
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: get sentenced to fifteen years in prison, like you ain't

1550
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: never come up, You ain't coming home fifteen years.

1551
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: And then like.

1552
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: Lost a lot of homies in the street too. That'll

1553
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: wake you up, you know what I mean. So I

1554
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: was trying to chase his music, chase something that will

1555
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: get me up out of that, and thank god, it

1556
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: got me up out of it. But then I still

1557
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: made mistakes in music. But I was young, my first

1558
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: time having a lot of money, you know what I mean.

1559
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: I got my whole crew with me everywhere I go,

1560
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1561
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: And then you responsible for them, Yeah one of them

1562
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: acting food that's on you.

1563
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, if all on you, then clean. I had to

1564
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: do a lot of cleaning up with my image, man,

1565
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: And I'm glad people don't don't really talk about it,

1566
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: because that's what I did. I did this for to

1567
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: push to push it away because at first, I ain't

1568
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna lie when I first From first, I was like

1569
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: it was like being a bad apple, you know what

1570
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, sitting in front of these barands and they like,

1571
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: well you you come out of jail, so you wanta

1572
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: da da da da. And to shake that image. It

1573
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: was hard, but I'm able to shake it, like I

1574
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: always encouraged my got my brother's in rep. Like you

1575
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: talk about how you talk, but it makes you you

1576
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: presentable when you come to these people. You go on time.

1577
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk like that, you talk to your homeboy,

1578
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 5: but when you go to corporate America, you talk to

1579
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 5: the people that can give you some money.

1580
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: Clean that up. You got to clean it up.

1581
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 3: We got be on time, right, Can they expect you

1582
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: to be late?

1583
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause you came early. I mean no, I was

1584
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 2: on time. So no, no, nah. The interview was the

1585
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: interview was scheduled.

1586
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no.

1587
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: The interview was scheduled at one o'clock twelve fifteen.

1588
01:06:59,040 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: I got my schedule.

1589
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: Pull up. No, but I'm just telling you what what

1590
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: we were?

1591
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: How you going twelve fifteen? That's what y'all said. It

1592
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: come for y'all. I pull up. She ain't in here,

1593
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: I said, damn No.

1594
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 5: What happened was I had a meeting. I did schedule

1595
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 5: two meetings today. The interview was supposed to be at

1596
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 5: one o'clock. You being a rapper, y'all normally come at

1597
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 5: one fifteen thirty.

1598
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 3: See, that's fucked up. That's fucked up, bro. Corporate world

1599
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: think the same way and the truth.

1600
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 5: I gonna tell you think I'm sitting down with you guys,

1601
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 5: I ain't late though, you know you early.

1602
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm on time.

1603
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: You know you early? You our early?

1604
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 3: Say I hit you with unexpected you did gonna be late?

1605
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 5: Not? I know I normally get here at twelve thirty.

1606
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 5: So when CJ hit me up and said, everybody you

1607
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 5: be so everybody.

1608
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: Be late, No, not everybody.

1609
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: I ain't late. I'm on time all my mess. I

1610
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: won't cut up.

1611
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: But but but that works for me though. I like

1612
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 3: when people be and you was early.

1613
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm supposed to be. How you thinking? I ain't

1614
01:07:59,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1615
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh you were?

1616
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 5: You time?

1617
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: Ready to go? You know, came in.

1618
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, God, I'm like, you're here, already here,

1619
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 5: ready to go, We got your something to eat?

1620
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: Come back still readily go out like well damn yeah, man,

1621
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: I gotta be a professional.

1622
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh they burys.

1623
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: And I got a production company too that I got

1624
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: my own pre production company. So I'll be wanting for

1625
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: to be on time.

1626
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1627
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big stickler for time, be on time.

1628
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: For invest my money and myself and my brain. So yeah,

1629
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: so the women actually before obviously do women visit you

1630
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: in jail? For sure? It's all a lame now this

1631
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: before everything, Yeah, I know, being mad this yeah, yes.

1632
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 5: Come on now, So Juice, did you know these we

1633
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 5: I mean these people that you had messed with, and

1634
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,879
Speaker 5: so they come there like I'm coming to see.

1635
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: You the funny thing. I tell your funny story. So

1636
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: when I first was locked up, when we had Pasachi,

1637
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: I was you know, I was a jail when we

1638
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: blew up.

1639
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like.

1640
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: Three four people on my list, right, three four girls. Yeah,

1641
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: I was just cool with on the list and they

1642
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: wasn't showing up. What I'm gonna tell you, Let me

1643
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: let me tell you how this go though.

1644
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 3: My mama come every weekend, my home was he my

1645
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: homeboy freak, he coming every weekend.

1646
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: It was him.

1647
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,480
Speaker 1: Three girls.

1648
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: Soon my song get on the radio, I get on

1649
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 3: the phone.

1650
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: They like this song all over the radio's blowing up,

1651
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: going crazy. Bro, you wouldn't believe these folks come to

1652
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: the visitation now in the Cava County. It's like they

1653
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: show your picture and they got the name of the people.

1654
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: These clubs were sitting in one lobby and waiting and

1655
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: going after another. I started getting one visit to having

1656
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: four visits because during the time, I don't know what

1657
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: it is now, it was a long time ago. You

1658
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: get six people that could visit you, they get thirty

1659
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: minutes apiece, but they all got to sit in the

1660
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: same lobby. And that's when I knew something was going

1661
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: on with the music, like it's really happening, because.

1662
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: It was like, you look, I got the juice.

1663
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: I had the juice.

1664
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: You got to think I'm about nineteen.

1665
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm locked up. And every time they're like, bro,

1666
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: while they because I ain't tell nobody during that time,

1667
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: like when I was in jail, I ain't tell nobody.

1668
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: I want laying like, bro, that's me on the radio

1669
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: that I'm all shiit. I wasn't doing that and we

1670
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: weren't even all the way there yet, but we was

1671
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: all on the radio. And then they just start coming.

1672
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: They're like, well, you keep getting visits, and I couldn't

1673
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: believe it either. I'm like they coming, I mean, how

1674
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 1: they hold up, you got three or four coming and

1675
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: they sitting in the same line.

1676
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: Dude, they know they coming to see you.

1677
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: They know each other too.

1678
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: How you pull that off? You man? When you start?

1679
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: It started, it started, it starts. It's just it's just

1680
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: I guess it was like the first it was like

1681
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: me getting to see the first level of fan wow.

1682
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: But it wasn't no fights or nothing. It was just

1683
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: it was just everybody was hitting away just to go

1684
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: go visit me. But it wasn't like that at first though.

1685
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: How about this, give me your top five Atlanta rappers Top.

1686
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: Five Top five.

1687
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: We gotta go.

1688
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: I hate separating. Now you gotta go hundred three thousand, Okay,

1689
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You gotta go. Migos, I

1690
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: gotta throw me at myself and now you gotta go.

1691
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: I should I said that right now. You gotta go. Gucci,

1692
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: you gotta go.

1693
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: You gotta go Future, you gotta go Pluto.

1694
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: You can't see them.

1695
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta go Future. I want to say, somebody

1696
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 1: out on not though from Atlanta. Oh Kelo you know

1697
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: who he's from Atlanta? Right exactly?

1698
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1699
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: Kelot down, yeah, yeah, because that's what I listened to

1700
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: my mom and them in the house growing up, and

1701
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't never hear nobody else acknowledge them acknowledge him.

1702
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: M yeah, damn for money, dude, I don't know nothing

1703
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: about that.

1704
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: I used to hear that. I used to hear that.

1705
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: I used to hear that in my mama house all

1706
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: the time.

1707
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 5: You had once had an issue with Joe Budden because

1708
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 5: he said something because you direct as a matter of

1709
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 5: fact that we sit here, you directed Cardi B's music

1710
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 5: video for the upcoming I think the song for upcoming

1711
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 5: album and she got uh you had. I don't think

1712
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 5: he feeling it, but you had to run in with

1713
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 5: Joe before correct. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, we're good with Joe.

1714
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 2: Man, Joe just be.

1715
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't like how I rock with Joe because I

1716
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't talk to him on some on some man and Man.

1717
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: But I just feel like he'd kick it with you

1718
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: and then kind of dog yet to the world, right,

1719
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now, it'd be hard for

1720
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: him to do that because it's like the credits don't

1721
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: be matching, Like the comparisons the credits that he has

1722
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: don't be matching.

1723
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I mean right.

1724
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: The credits that he got don't read be matching to

1725
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: the people he be getting on ass. But he do

1726
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: got a word, and sometimes he says some things that

1727
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: that it do make sense. But I didn't like how

1728
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: he was trying to shoot on the females, you know

1729
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's an evolution, bro, you shouldn't

1730
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: say that that it's dead. And then I don't want

1731
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: him to come from me either, like because I didn't

1732
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: talk to him. I ain't just down to I just

1733
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: feel like I disagree with your opinion with the female music,

1734
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: like they're doing their thing. Why shit on it?

1735
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1736
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 4: Right?

1737
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: But we're good.

1738
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 1: We're good though, Yeah, no problem. Ain't got no problem, nobody.

1739
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,480
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, how do you the criticism

1740
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 5: that comes along with it? How have you been able

1741
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,440
Speaker 5: to develop thick skin? Because you know there been some criticism.

1742
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't come from that though, you know what I'm saying,

1743
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: Like I didn't.

1744
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: I didn't, thank God, Like I blew up in twenty

1745
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: thirteen where we were still we had to get on

1746
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: the floor, we had to see a citys we had

1747
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: to put post us up. I come from doing that

1748
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: shows for five thousand to ten thousand chitling circuit, like

1749
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: I didn't come from Damn, I blew up my song

1750
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: blew up on Instagram. I'm like, let me check my comments,

1751
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just feel like

1752
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: your coret fan base. As long as you got that

1753
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: and you successful, you moving, but you know, you do

1754
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: see stuff and you go through stuff. But I try

1755
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: to keep myself up out of that because they'll end up.

1756
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: It'll drive you crazy trying to like prove to these

1757
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: people because once they see that they can get to you,

1758
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: they just keep going, yeah to do It's like one

1759
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: soon they touch touch that nerve and you show they

1760
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: touched that nerve. They touch it throughout your whole thing,

1761
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: Like I'll be seeing now. Like when people drop music

1762
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: right they like the next day, it's like trolls on

1763
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: there saying how many streams they got in twenty four hours.

1764
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: When I come from your record growing, because when your

1765
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: record grow, it establishes you more, right, because you can

1766
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: have a number one record for one and then it

1767
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: drop off the charts completely. And then that person who

1768
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: at eighty nine and they go to sixty nine and

1769
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: they go to seventy. That mean they didn't have been

1770
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: on the billboards for twelve weeks, and they got up

1771
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: the top twenty, top ten, and you had number one,

1772
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: and they fell right off the chart. I come from

1773
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: development music, like right where my first my first songs,

1774
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: I ain't go top ten on no billboard and I

1775
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: still was making my money and people love me, and

1776
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: it's it's I feel like it's taking away from the

1777
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: artists creativity. They ain't really because they're so focused on life.

1778
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: Damn getting what my number gonna be. I don't be

1779
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: I ain't even taking that. But I feel like first

1780
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: week numbers it's a way to downplay us, to make

1781
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: us a less value in the game, to like the

1782
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: big labels social media, social media?

1783
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: What role do you think social media?

1784
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 5: Because you like you said that people sometimes people say

1785
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: things on social media that they would never say to

1786
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 5: your face. And sometimes people do things just to get

1787
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 5: other people in social media to click up with them,

1788
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 5: like yeah, you see what he said about such and such.

1789
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 5: He said this about off set, or he said this

1790
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 5: about this about that. Are you are you on social

1791
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 5: media like that? Or you just let it rock?

1792
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always watching, but I try not to

1793
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: bite debate. Feel me like try not to bite debate

1794
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: cause as an artist sometimes we see no baite debate.

1795
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 5: I'm not as a matter of fact that you mentioned

1796
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 5: that I'm gonna get me some tile clothes now.

1797
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: As you told me that.

1798
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: You can't bite debate because once you bite debate and

1799
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: they might be saying the crazy shit you bite debate

1800
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: and if you when you realize it, like now, if

1801
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm so small, soon you bite debate that mother everywhere? Yeah,

1802
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: soon you speak on something. It just flooded everywhere and

1803
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: it it got big. But I ain't gonna lie.

1804
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: I'm a person too though. Sometimes the super disrespectful ship.

1805
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: I just got to say something because it because sometimes

1806
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: you be like two their respectul like it's been times

1807
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: one time like they were doing some weird stuff my kids.

1808
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: You mad at me that much that you gotta bring

1809
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: my kids and do like a fake little weird mean.

1810
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't play that. I don't.

1811
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 5: I don't.

1812
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't. Now that's when I speak on it. When

1813
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: it's like my family little like my kids, you got

1814
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: some weird nasty shit with my kid like and it

1815
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: be fan bases that do that ship, and it's like bro,

1816
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: come on, bro, like you I say something to that.

1817
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: But most of the time I'm gonna ask. I got

1818
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: good people around me to shun it. So'm I'm I'm

1819
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit. I'm gonna hit my folks like hey, bro,

1820
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, don't say nothing. They'll tak me

1821
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: about it. I ain't just jumping the gun though, right,

1822
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: because sometimes you'll just blow it up. Some people ain't

1823
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: even seen that, and then they see you know, it's

1824
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: on every blood.

1825
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 5: I asked Savage about this about dating privately versus publicly,

1826
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 5: and what's your thoughts on that? If you could do

1827
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 5: it over again, what are your what are your thoughts

1828
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 5: on dating publicly versus dating privately?

1829
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: If I could do it again, definitely privately just so

1830
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: not let me say not so public, I mean not

1831
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: so I mean not not so public because I like

1832
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: to show mine off, you know what I mean. But

1833
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, folks being your business and people

1834
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: judge you like just too much, like just too much

1835
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: into yo yo yo your world, and and it deteriorates

1836
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: a lot of things.

1837
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 3: But that ship man, they put a lot of pressure

1838
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 3: on folks and stuff like that, and.

1839
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't not everybody, not really supposed to see your

1840
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: improfessions or your professions, you know what I mean, that's

1841
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be It's like a household thing, so I

1842
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: would definitely more private.

1843
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. I read it also that you you put

1844
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 5: the lean down. Yeah, why do you feel that was important?

1845
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 5: It was it bothering your health because I mean.

1846
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: I didn't have no health issues. It was bothering my relationships,

1847
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, my family, Like I

1848
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: hated that. My mom would say, uh, just sometimes I

1849
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm talking to my son. That's it

1850
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: because that that that that that hurt, you know what

1851
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: I mean. You can't keep saying it. But so many times,

1852
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: and it wasn't her trying to like, but it was

1853
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: genuinely I could see it in her eyes what she

1854
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: said or when I used to be right there just

1855
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: how like and just sit it. And I just catch

1856
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: my mama. I keep her like just looking at me,

1857
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: and she'll try to look off. I knew I was

1858
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: disappointed my mama and disappointed my family. And it's the

1859
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: greatest thing I did, though, bro, I ain't gonna lie.

1860
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: I gotta clear mindset I'm not because it have you

1861
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: like a little aggravated a little bit.

1862
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 2: That makes it. Why do you think so many rappers

1863
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: are taking it?

1864
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 4: I mean.

1865
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: People got their own trauma. Sometimes I never think it's

1866
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: a cool thing, like when people be like, oh, that

1867
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: was a cool thing to do. I think you try

1868
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: something and you enjoy it. It makes you feel good

1869
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: and you keep doing it. That's just me being a thousand.

1870
01:19:55,240 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 5: As we wrap up here, Offset, how does Offset continue

1871
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 5: to evolve and move the.

1872
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: Bar by being more creative, taking more risks, the risk

1873
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: of the reward. I got that tatted on it. No risk,

1874
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: no reward. Also studying the greats. Man, you gotta study

1875
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: your history. You gotta study sometimes, you gotta, you gotta.

1876
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,799
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people like I don't watch nobody,

1877
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: but I watch greats because I want to see what

1878
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: they were doing to separate themselves and to keep growing.

1879
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Because it's hard, especially in this time. People don't be

1880
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: one to accept shit, so you gotta force them to

1881
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: accept it. That's why I just like when you said

1882
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: with the Beyonce the situation, you're gonna accept this and

1883
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna go number one, and we're gonna keep pushing

1884
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: this brand, and sometimes the risks come with a great reward.

1885
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: You can't be scared. I feel like as an artist,

1886
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do that. People look up to you

1887
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: because they can't do that in their lives. They don't

1888
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: have the heart. You inspire other people, so if you

1889
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: do the same thing, you're only gonna inspire the same

1890
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: amount of people. I always want to grow my fan base.

1891
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: I always want to and you've done it. He was

1892
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: on a bigg ass TV show, right, and you came

1893
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: to your own thing and your ship then grow bigger, bigger.

1894
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: You've been a football stars, you went through different levels

1895
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: and it's still it's always room for being a bigger

1896
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: and a better brand. And sometimes you go through heartbreak.

1897
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: So sometimes you go through tough times, and a tough

1898
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: time would make you and you'll feel like, damn, what's

1899
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: gonna happen next? And then you don't get distracted by

1900
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: it and you keep on to your mission. If you

1901
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: really you dive into what you really believe in, man,

1902
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna come. It's gonna come through for you.

1903
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 5: Appreciate you talking about the club best of luck on

1904
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 5: the the solo tour. Yes, sir, say you know what

1905
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 5: you come to a city there. Oh shay, I'm gonna

1906
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 5: pull up.

1907
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come pull up. I'm like, what man, I

1908
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: like what you you gratulations to you? Man, you know

1909
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. You've been You've been helping people and

1910
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: you'll know it. You know what I mean. People people,

1911
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: you started your own thing. You know I rocked with

1912
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: old show. Yeah that's my real doll. Now, Yeah, that

1913
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: my real doll. I like with how boys doing, y'all

1914
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: keeping the original. It's like a black talk. It's real

1915
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: relatable to young and the old.

1916
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1917
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep doing your thing.

1918
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: Man, shad that y'all stop by one night.

1919
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop by. I want to get on that one.

1920
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell my boy, that's my real dollar. That's my boy.

1921
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: Off set.

1922
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back

1923
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 4: the price, wanta slice got the brother dice all my life.

1924
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all.

1925
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 4: My life, sacrifics, tustle back the price, one slice, got

1926
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 4: to brow the diceat all my life.

1927
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 5: I've been grinding all my life