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Speaker 1: This has got to be the most jacked up, insane

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Speaker 1: NBA trade deadline of all time. Luka Doncic went to

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. The Phoenix Sun's Guerrilla got traded into Toronto.

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Speaker 2: They're switching mascots. No, Toronto's getting two mascots. They traded

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Speaker 2: back Salary.

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee traded their floor to freakin' Orlando for tickets to Disney.

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Speaker 1: The freaking Harlem Globetrotters are trading Hammer Harrison and Diesel kirkandall, Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, they're trading them to the US Army.

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Speaker 1: They're getting back a drilled sergeant named short Henry.

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Speaker 3: Why would they want a guy named short Henry?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. The NBA traded gatorade for beer. Oh

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Speaker 2: and it has to be a stout, they say.

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Speaker 1: Now all of our coolers are going to be filled

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Speaker 1: with a nice, creamy stout.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to No Ducks here on the Athletic Podcast Network,

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Speaker 3: Happy hump Day and February twelfth to U. I'm tas

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Speaker 3: malice with me. It's the man in the middle, trade

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Speaker 3: kerby Ay and the man making that magic happen. As always,

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Speaker 3: it's JD. Hello, what's up? JD? And still paying off

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Speaker 3: his pick him payoff from January. Where is he from

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Speaker 3: another dimension through time and space? It's Jaskids.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we finally got the rights to Hans.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm still here in the bookshelf, still here in

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Speaker 5: the Tessa at still here in the fifth dimension, still

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Speaker 5: trying to figure out the movie. I from being honest,

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Speaker 5: I don't really know how that all works. But here

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Speaker 5: we are still paying off that pick them.

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Speaker 3: Loss day three of five. Yeah, doing great, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's day three of five. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how space works either way. We'll talk to Joe Dumars

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Speaker 3: is going to improve this year. We talked to him

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Speaker 3: he's going to be the EMC at All Star Weekend

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Speaker 3: when we talked to him, so that was unfortunate. I

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Speaker 6: We'll talk about a big night for the Hart family.

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Speaker 6: Josh played really well.

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Speaker 7: MC in the game.

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Speaker 3: We'll also get to brandon Ingrin's extension with the Toronto Raptors,

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Speaker 3: but first let's start with Kevin Durant hitting thirty thousand

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Speaker 3: points in his NBA career, the eighth guy to do it.

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Speaker 3: It's monstrous number. It was a little anti climactic. He

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Speaker 3: But Skeetz, what are your thoughts on KD get into

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a very popular sports meme that goes like this,

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Speaker 5: an Angel's highlight. It's like Mike Trout hit three home

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Speaker 5: runs and raised his average to five twenty eight. Well,

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Speaker 5: sho hey o, Tani did something that hasn't been done

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Speaker 5: Groomsman as the Tigers defeated the Angels eight to three.

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Speaker 5: That's Phoenix Sun's lines over the last little while. Devin

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Speaker 5: history to reach thirty thousand points. Suns lose again, now

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Speaker 5: fall below five hundred. That was my immediate thought. It's

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Speaker 5: like my God, they keep doing these incredible things. There,

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Speaker 5: these star players in Phoenix, and they keep happening in losses.

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Speaker 5: And I know we'll get into the game a little bit,

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Speaker 5: but look, the guy came into the league a bucket

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's impressive. It just sucks it came in

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 6: You say anti climactic that it was at the free

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Speaker 6: going a lot around last week that said, every basketball

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Speaker 6: While being one of the greatest shooters of all time,

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, who cares.

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Speaker 6: It's unstoppable.

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Speaker 3: It is absolutely unstoppable. And I gotta figure he's gonna

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Speaker 5: When he plays, he's like an autom twenty five. I'm

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Speaker 3: But man, the Sun's team just can't find anybody besides

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Speaker 6: Actually winning nineteen to eleven in fast break points. That

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Speaker 6: the Sons had no desire to get back. Fifty eight

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Speaker 6: Fourteen points, four threes, five rebounds, had that beautiful scoop layup.

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Speaker 3: Year, absolutely, and it's great for Tyler Jenkins to be

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, just quickly on the Grizzlies like a stat

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Speaker 5: where Katie hits thirty thousand points and as Tray just said,

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Speaker 5: I'm with you. That transition defense, it's a joke. They

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Speaker 5: so there's no scrappiness to them. They don't rebound. It's like,

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Speaker 5: It's just it's like just a slog. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: They need Kendrick Perkins out there. If you heard Kendrick

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Speaker 3: Perkins said, I was a leader of Ken Durant's team

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Speaker 3: and Okasey either way, they've been like this all season long,

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Speaker 3: even though we'll get to Dallas Maverick's injury a little

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Speaker 6: They just don't seem to have any fight in them

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Speaker 6: by next season, because it sounds like Kevin Durant probably

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Speaker 7: I'm with you. Maybe he could get to the top

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Speaker 6: Pretty impressive though you said he was third fastest ever

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Speaker 6: and that's with Katie missing huge chunks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of time.

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Speaker 6: He had a foot injury, obviously had the achilles a

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Speaker 6: he would have a chance to challenge Lebron. It looks

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Speaker 6: If you call this team a dangerous playoff team, any

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Speaker 7: What was going on there?

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Speaker 3: to Dreell Andbiid has a wide open three. Oh nobody

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Speaker 4: He just lost thing.

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Speaker 7: He tried to go behind his back, off his head.

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Speaker 3: That was the Philadelphia seventy six ers season. In one dribble.

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Speaker 5: It's so so depressing to watch this team. Like we

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Speaker 5: The vibes are not all amazing with that squad. I know,

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Speaker 4: It just seems like even MAXI, who seems like.

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Speaker 5: it's so bad and that was that was a bad loss. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we can get into Scotty and quickly having another good game,

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Speaker 6: I'm not confident that they could win the nine to

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I woke up with a hater mindset today.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, A lot of ugly stuff, like if.

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Speaker 6: We were doing weekend winners and losers based off last night,

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Speaker 3: And that's why they have to shut it down right

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Speaker 4: I just don't know why, tough dude to trade right now.

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Speaker 5: I know he's a former MVP and obviously runner up

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Speaker 4: I know that would be a hell of a risk.

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Speaker 3: But a terrible contract for him, terrible contract for Paul George.

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Speaker 3: Does it looks right here right now? You gotta at

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Speaker 4: You're just saying it now.

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Speaker 3: it's a little late. I don't think that's a problem.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he doesn't have to happen a lot in

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Speaker 6: He's got one on his team and one just signed

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Speaker 6: believe it or not, they're only a game up on

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Speaker 7: Like the Raptors are coming up.

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Speaker 7: To the NBA Championship. Maybe if you close your eyes

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of squinting. That's just your eyes closed there.

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Speaker 5: Darryl oh Man, it was tough because now the Big

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Speaker 5: Three is back, and as Rich Hoffman tweeted out last night,

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Speaker 5: it's not going well. They had a thirteen point loss

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Speaker 5: who came in with what sixteen wins before getting their

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Speaker 4: I mean, was a barrack.

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Speaker 3: It was a barrettless Raptor. Well, yeah, and a hurdleless sure.

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Speaker 5: This should be wins, like because it was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: And just to touch on Scotty because we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: you know, just over forty games. Now. His free throws

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Speaker 5: You can take Matt Bonner for that pretty funny, which

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Speaker 5: is amazing. Matt Bonner with Blake Murphy on The Raptor

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Speaker 4: Now he's sort of.

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Speaker 5: Called out Scotty Barnes, like you got to get at

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Speaker 5: he can finish when he does inside, So good job, Matt.

435
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Matt Bonner is actually right, like Barnes

436
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 6: needs to get to the rim. He should be living

437
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 6: inside and hopefully the jumper continues to develop because it's

438
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 6: inconsistent right now. But the athleticism, the size, the length

439
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 6: that Scotty Barnes has should be mostly an interior player,

440
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 6: I think.

441
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 5: And he's such a good playmaker that if you get

442
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 5: by the you know, the first line of defense, obviously

443
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 5: guys are going to collapse. He'll make the right play,

444
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 5: like he'll make the right pass. Even last night he

445
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 5: had a beautiful one into Ochaiabaji like at the end

446
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 5: of the game where they threw two guys up top

447
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 5: at him and he just passed it over them like

448
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 5: it was like and it was a nice finishing side,

449
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 5: Like yeah, he has to have that sort of first

450
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 5: quick step or at least explosiveness to get through the

451
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Speaker 5: first guy.

452
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 4: And then make the defense react.

453
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 3: He called that he must be more of an interior player. Well,

454
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 3: he's going to have that space because he's got a

455
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: mid range guy joining him. Brandon Ingram signed an extension

456
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 3: with the Toronto Raptors. No games, no problem. Didn't play

457
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: a game for the Raptors since being traded there for

458
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 3: five days and got the extension three years, one hundred

459
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 3: and twenty million dollars, first two guaranteed player option for

460
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Speaker 3: the third skeets. I know you were saying when he

461
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: was traded, I wonder what that contract is going to be. Yeah,

462
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: how do you feel about three for one to twenty?

463
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 4: I feel great about it.

464
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Speaker 5: It was what I was hoping was going to be

465
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Speaker 5: the contract, and even I didn't believe it. I thought

466
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 5: it was going to be a little bit more. But yeah,

467
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 5: when they made the trade. We had three questions when

468
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 5: it came to that Ingram deal. One, what was the

469
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Speaker 5: next contract going to look like? How much was it

470
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Speaker 5: going to cost them to keep them? The second thing

471
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Speaker 5: was his durability, and the third thing is how he's

472
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Speaker 5: going to fit on this team. So we don't know

473
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Speaker 5: the answers to those last two questions, but we now

474
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Speaker 5: know the contract, and I think it's a very reasonable price.

475
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Speaker 5: I get that he got the player option, I think

476
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 5: almost at a discount because of the forty million per year.

477
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 5: And now we'll see if he comes back this year,

478
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Speaker 5: how he looks and how he fits with these guys.

479
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I.

480
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Speaker 5: Had no real complaints about what he signed there for

481
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 5: three one twenty. I did think, I don't know, I

482
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 5: thought it was going to be more so. I think

483
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 5: they got him out a pretty good deal here. I

484
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 5: don't know if TK agrees.

485
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 6: Well, I probably would have liked to have the other

486
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 6: two questions answered. First, can you play get on the court,

487
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Speaker 6: and can you play with our stars that are already here.

488
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 6: And that's why i'm a little I'm just sideways on this,

489
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 6: like I don't know. It's a BILO deal for sure,

490
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 6: it's a team friendly deal, not super long. The Raptors

491
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 6: don't have a great history of using cap space to

492
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 6: get free agency, so you can see why they would

493
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Speaker 6: target a guy like Ingram. He's a talented player, but

494
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: I personally don't like the fit. I think he replicates

495
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 6: a lot of what they already have. I don't think

496
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Speaker 6: he fits their timeline all that well, it's going to

497
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 6: have him force.

498
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Speaker 7: Them to make a decision on RJ.

499
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 6: Barrett, Grady Dick, guys that Brandon Ingram is going to

500
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Speaker 6: be taking possessions from. When you're thinking those are development guys,

501
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 6: and really, who were the Raptors bidding against? It would

502
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 6: have been the Nets are the only team that can

503
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 6: assigned him to a deal like this, so they probably

504
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 6: could have waited it out if they wanted to, But

505
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Speaker 6: I guess get it done, make him feel comfortable and

506
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Speaker 6: keep him around.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, get it done with a guy and a team

508
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: that doesn't necessarily get a lot of free agents sign

509
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Speaker 3: this guy to a deal. It sounds weird to say

510
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: forty million per year is a deal, but the max

511
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: he could have got was three and one hundred and

512
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: thirty six, so it is outbid him discount. And you

513
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: gotta think that this guy will find a new gear

514
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: here in Toronto. I'm sure he's excited about. Yeah, you'd

515
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: think that it is weird to trade for a guy

516
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: not see him on the floor, and have a guy

517
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: who has he has an injury currently not to see

518
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: him on the floor and to give him that three years.

519
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 3: That is definitely an odd part but he kicked that

520
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: trade kicker. He said, no, I don't need that when

521
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: he was traded there, So it seems like he's more

522
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: amped to be there. There's lots of guys who leave

523
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: New Orleans, Anthony Davis for one, that go somewhere else

524
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: and are super excited five plus years there just to

525
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: move on to something, and he definitely needed a new start.

526
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's yes, there's any question about that.

527
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: He's entering his prime here. It's a three year deal

528
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: and for him, he says, I'll take the three years

529
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Speaker 3: because I'll be probably thirty thirty one depending on when

530
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Speaker 3: he ends the deal, so he could sign another big

531
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Speaker 3: monster after.

532
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs.

533
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Speaker 5: That would be great for Raptors fans if he honestly

534
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 5: outplays his value.

535
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Speaker 4: Over these next two years.

536
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be good because that means he'd be playing

537
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: really well and hopefully that would include some wins and

538
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 5: how it fits. I hear your concerns, TK, for sure,

539
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 5: I think the Raptors believe. And let's be honest, this

540
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: is called like it's called pre agency right at the

541
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 5: trade deadline now, like I'm sure this is basically agreed to,

542
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: like we're gonna trade for you, and we're gonna sign

543
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: you for this ballpark deal. They're gonna hope they can

544
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 5: unlock him when it comes to cutting more so, a

545
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 5: little bit more off the ball, and obviously maybe just

546
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 5: like some more catch and shoot threes.

547
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Speaker 4: And the thing is, Brandon.

548
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 5: Ingham is actually really good at those skills, but in

549
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 5: the Pelican system and what he did there, they didn't

550
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: sort of focus on those a lot. So I'd like

551
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 5: to see if they can unlock that and hopefully him

552
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 5: at twenty eight, can add that sort of to his

553
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 5: game and just more of a free flowing offense. But yeah,

554
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: it's an expensive team that we don't know how it looks,

555
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: and maybe there's some duplication in Barns quickly ingram Now

556
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 5: and then RJ Barrett. He's the one that might get

557
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: actually squeezed out of all this down the line.

558
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah. And when I say he's going to be

559
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: more enthused to playing this new city, part of it is,

560
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: and part of it what should happen is, yes, some

561
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: movement off the ball and some cutting and operating in

562
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 3: a different zone than Scotty Barnes, which we see is

563
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: happening with Scotty becoming more of a bully boy and

564
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: Ingram becoming a more of a three point shooter as

565
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: he was in New Orleans, getting up six plus a

566
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: good chunk of them. But yes, it is a question

567
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 3: of those two and RJ. Barrett and Manual Quickly and

568
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: giving those four dudes one hundred and thirty seven million

569
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: dollars next season. I mean, this team is almost a

570
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: luxury tax team next season, which is a little spooky

571
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: before you see them play together. But if this is

572
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: an opportunity, if things don't work out, to pivot into

573
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 3: a different direction, because r J Barrett next year, it'll

574
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: just be that year plus one more year. So I'm

575
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: sure it's tradable. Beyond that less tradable with Ingram being

576
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: the shortest of the other three, and then Quickly, who

577
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: hasn't proven to be himself quite yet this season. He

578
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: hasn't played a lot.

579
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 5: Back to back twenty plus point games though. Now, yeah,

580
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 5: and he looked like the quick of old.

581
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

582
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, finally I think you're seeing that that he's healthy.

583
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: It's a good sign. It is so funny here we're

584
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: in February, and I had flashbacks of when quickly was

585
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: traded to Toronto last year with Rgie Barrett playing with

586
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: Sakham in January, so it's thirteen months ago, and they

587
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: looked like that type of quickly getting to the lane,

588
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: doing that type of thing. And so people say, well,

589
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: why don't you just keep Siakham instead of having brandon Ingram. Well,

590
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: Siakam needed a new start instead of being just the

591
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: number one guy in Toronto. That didn't work out, and

592
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: here you got a brandon Ingram who is a damn

593
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: talented score. He's not a defender like Pascal Siaking, but

594
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: he is an incredible score. So TVD here on this one.

595
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I will say now that Bi is off

596
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 5: the market, I mean, look at the list of potential

597
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: free agents for this summer, potentially Van Vliet right, because

598
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: the Rockets have a team option on that, so he

599
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: might hit the market. I guess we have Julius Randall,

600
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 5: James Hard and Kyrie Irving. Those are all player options.

601
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 5: Miles Turner. Yeah, he's like the biggest probably unrestricted free

602
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: agent name at least right now.

603
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know.

604
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: Ingram doesn't at least test that market. And you're right,

605
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: TK not who did they bid against is the real question.

606
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 5: Maybe the Nets, maybe not, but I guess they locked

607
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 5: him up at least for a couple of years.

608
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 6: I just like that another team is following the Bulls formula.

609
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 6: No really great players, but nine to ten good players.

610
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 7: That's a way to win.

611
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they hope Scottie Barnes takes on the very good players. Yeah,

612
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: you have to grow a little bit. There's no doubt

613
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: DVD on that we will see about Scotty. It hasn't

614
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: happened quite yet. They do have now a guy who

615
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: can close up possession, because Scotty has not been the

616
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: guy to say, here's the ball, close the possession. Brandon

617
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: Ingram is that guy. We'll see play though he does

618
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: have to play. And that's the whole fricking Toronto Raptors. Yes, yeah, yes,

619
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: so TVD on that. Anyway, Let's touch on the final

620
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: two games here. Karl Anthony Towns goes for forty as

621
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: the Knicks beat the Pacers in a three four Eastern

622
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: Conference battle. You called it yesterday, Tray, you said that

623
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: the Knicks were going to handle the Pacers. They did that.

624
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: How do you feel about this one?

625
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 6: Well, no, Miles Turner in this one, and I think

626
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: we saw that Thomas Bryant and Obi Toppin are not

627
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 6: defenders because this was an absolute layup.

628
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 7: Line for the New York Knicks.

629
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Speaker 6: They scored sixty eight points in the paint. Karl Anthony

630
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 6: Towns and Josh Hart both had eleven layups apiece.

631
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 7: That's crazy. It was easy. I mean they went by.

632
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 6: For Towns, it was pump, fake and get to the

633
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 6: rim every single time, and for Josh Hart, it was

634
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 6: backcuts and offensive rebounds every single time. Thirty ten five assists,

635
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: two steals for Josh Hart.

636
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 7: Give him an MIP vote.

637
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 6: The guy's having an incredible season, career highs in points, rebounds, assists, percentages,

638
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 6: and you guessed it, minutes. He's playing a ton of minutes,

639
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 6: so the counting stats are gonna look nice. But he's

640
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 6: a perfect fit alongside Towns and brunts In because they

641
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: take up so much attention from the defense. There's a

642
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 6: lot of space out there, so he can just go

643
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 6: nuts cutting an offensive rebound, and that's exactly what the

644
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 6: Knicks need. The Pacers just didn't have anything defensively, and

645
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 6: they didn't have really any big guys to be playing.

646
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 6: Julia lokafor got minutes in this game.

647
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could have used Alex Lead exactly sanity.

648
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I got like I popped a little

649
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: bit when Towns I think it was Bryant because it

650
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: felt like it was Brian all night.

651
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: He like Towns drove baseline. Yeah, I dunked it. I

652
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: was like, whoa, I.

653
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: Mean, that's you just don't really see that from Cattle

654
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 5: that often. His dunks usually are the pump big variety

655
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: up top from the three point and then he screams

656
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 5: in and dunks it. But that baseline one coming by

657
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: surprise in traffic. So he had way Yeah, the forty

658
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: points in the heart with thirty and ten man and

659
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: I'll say the Knicks got like bench contributions last night,

660
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: which you know, I think is going to be their

661
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: achilles heel when you get into some postseasons. Now, I

662
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: know you shorten the bench and don't worry tips plays

663
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: those guys heavy minutes, but promising to see Duce McBride

664
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: with fifteen points, he went four or four from deep campaign,

665
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: had nine points eight assists. I thought he had some

666
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: really nice plays sort of when the Pacers were trying

667
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 5: to stick around there in the second half. And then

668
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 5: Landry Shammitt eleven points and four assists. So those three

669
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: guys all a positive in the in the box score

670
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 5: two plus minus. So that's that's good at least for.

671
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: The next some odd things happening. As you said, julil

672
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: ogefor got minutes. I was perplexed seeing a raptor's rotation.

673
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: Ulrich Schamsha played yesterday. The youngest player in the National

674
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: Basketball Association at nineteen, shares a birthday with a man

675
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: who's twenty one years older than him and plays in

676
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: the NBA. It's gotta be Lebron, James Lebron. Him and

677
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: Lebron have the same birthday. He turned nineteen. Well, and

678
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: Bron on the other side is more than double his age.

679
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: It was Yeah, he was, Yeah, the youngest guy. I

680
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: will say Josh Hart was awesome and just the attempts

681
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: of sixteen attempts, just three threes and thirteen just right

682
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: by the him so close. Josh Hart, perfect stuff. That's

683
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: who he is. And yeah, that's an interesting Most Improved

684
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Player vote deservedly so he.

685
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 7: Ain't gonna win, but he could be on your ballot.

686
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: He can be on a ballot.

687
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, Shamitt I don't.

688
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 6: Think he'll play in the playoffs, but it was good

689
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 6: to see him shooting. You know, Og didn't play in

690
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: this one as well, so that kicks guys down like

691
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 6: a chia will take the spot.

692
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 7: Well, it's his name.

693
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 6: Mitch Robinson is going to be there eventually, But I

694
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 6: do think McBride playing well is going to be huge

695
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: for them. Four threes is big time because with him,

696
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: I feel like he's more steady than Campaign is. Like

697
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 6: Campaign will maybe could give you twenty off the bench,

698
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 6: but he could also give you one off the bench.

699
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 6: He's going to take the exact same shot. So I

700
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 6: think McBride is kind of a key piece for them.

701
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: Bench was it was weird.

702
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 5: Brunson was in foul trouble in this game, which was

703
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: just I don't know, I can't remember that happening all

704
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: that frequent. So that's why we got a little bit

705
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: more of those guards off the bench.

706
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

707
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the next getting a little more separation for that

708
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: third seed because the Pacers were coming for them a

709
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: little bit. They're in the fourth spot, but the Pacers

710
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: are so interesting. They've just slowed down here in February

711
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: a little bit. They've beaten the top three in the East.

712
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: They've beaten the Cavs, they've beaten the Boston Celtics, they've

713
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: beaten the next this season, but they couldn't do it

714
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: in this one yet. They they just don't look quite

715
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: themselves right here, right now. Getting to the final game,

716
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: not much to say about this when the Pistons smacked

717
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: the Bulls by forty points, but I wanted to hear

718
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: your pain tray after watching.

719
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 7: I got a lot to say about this one. Yeah, right,

720
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 7: this was disgusting basketball for the Chicago Bulls.

721
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 6: They were down seventy one to twenty nine at halftime.

722
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 7: That adds up to one hundred. Was it on purpose?

723
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 7: I don't know.

724
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: They were one for twenty three from three after missing

725
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 6: their first twenty In the first half, the Bulls had

726
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 6: twelve makes and ten turnovers. Got one text from my dad.

727
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 6: He said, possibly the ugliest half of basketball that I

728
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: have ever seen. And this guy saw Isaiah Thomas play

729
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: high school basketball.

730
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 7: That's how old he is. He's the Hubie Brown of

731
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 7: my parents.

732
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: It was just an absolute disaster class from the Bulls,

733
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 6: but a legitimately funny moment in the second quarter Nikolavuchevich

734
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 6: started the game over nine, finally made his first shot,

735
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 6: his tenth shot on a little baby hook, pumped his

736
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 6: arms up and down like whoa, I finally made a shot.

737
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 7: The whole crowd went nuts.

738
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: It was like a men's league when you're playing for

739
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: four straight minutes and somebody finally makes a basket.

740
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 7: It's one to zero.

741
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: We did it.

742
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 7: That was the Bulls. The silver lining though.

743
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 6: Mattes Buzzellis led the team in scoring for the first

744
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 6: time in his career, a whopping twelve points, and the

745
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 6: Bulls won the second half.

746
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 7: One and one. Last night.

747
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: Halfwise, wow, they did the same against the Warriors. That's

748
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: right before they won the first half loss of the

749
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: second though.

750
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: That's why I asked you man had to hear it.

751
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: And they play again today in Chicago. The same exact

752
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: game is going to happen. So strange. That is going

753
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: to be painful. Did you watch any of this? I

754
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: me your planet you are.

755
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: I definitely watched the highlights of this one. I was

756
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 5: having a good laugh at the halftime score that a

757
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 5: poor you know intern has to blast to the social

758
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: media channels for the Bulls. That showed the seventy one

759
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 5: to twenty nine. You know my first thought, Man, I

760
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: could really use the Cavaliers diff right now.

761
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: That's a tough one to figure out. Yeah, what are

762
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: they up? Are they up eighty nine?

763
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't know.

764
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: I'm not that good at math.

765
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: But does I assume have a leg there? That's when

766
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: I first saw that. I'm like, oh, yeah, strange.

767
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: So that was funny.

768
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 5: It obviously got a little bit better. I guess better

769
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 5: throw that in air quotes. But man, how about them

770
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: Pistons too? Oh yeah, Malik Beasley, he broke the record

771
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: for most threes in a season for a Detroit Piston player.

772
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 5: There are twenty eight games left, and when he did it,

773
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw the clip. He

774
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: literally was like hugging and celebrating with Beef still on

775
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 5: the way back down the floor, Like that's all like

776
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 5: such an ass kicking this game was that they were

777
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: just like basically celebrating mid game. They're pretty cool accolade

778
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: there for Beasley, but yeah, this was there. I mean, look,

779
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: the Pistons are a good team and the Chicago Bulls

780
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: are not. They're the opposite of that right now. So Yeah,

781
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens tonight. That's a fascinating one. What's

782
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: the line on that one? Tasks on the rematch here

783
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: tit's gotta be favored, right, but probably not by a lot.

784
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's not by and a half. It's not

785
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: by forty. It's only six and a half.

786
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay.

787
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: I saw on CBS Sports, did the Bulls when you

788
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 5: combine the two games, the loss to the Warriors and

789
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 5: then that loss to the to the Pistons, did they

790
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 5: have the worst four quarter stretch ever in NBA history?

791
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: Because they got beat by thirty five points in the

792
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 5: second half to the Warriors on Saturday, and then they

793
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: immediate follow that up by losing by forty two in

794
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: the first half of the Piston So, huh, that's seventy

795
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 5: seven points, you know, over a game, if you want

796
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: to call it, that first second half of then the

797
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 5: first half.

798
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: So that's the Luca right there. They were down a

799
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: Luca close.

800
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 7: It's got to be closed.

801
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 6: We're seeing teams lose by sixty in a single game. Yeah,

802
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 6: so is that worst one game? It's just one game

803
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 6: firstus other games, I don't know. The Bulls used to

804
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 6: have Dang Heinrich and Joe Kiem Noah were number nine,

805
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 6: twelve and thirteen, and now it's Vooch, Kevin Herder and

806
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: Zach Collins.

807
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 7: How far are we?

808
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: Last thing about that game and accomplishment stat that you'll

809
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: probably forget, but I have to say it, Cunningham became

810
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: the third fastest player in NBA history to reach four

811
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: thousand points rebounds in thirteen hundred. Yeah, it's one of

812
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: those you'll definitely forget. The last thing here, final piece

813
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: of news is unfortunate for the Dallas Mavericks because Daniel

814
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: Gafford will be real alliated in two weeks because of

815
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: a knee sprain. All their bigs are hurt. We know

816
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 3: that Derek Lively is out for an extended period. Powell

817
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: is out. Another center who wasn't supposed to play a center,

818
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: but it's going to play center for this team and

819
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: did when he got his first debut Anthony Davis, but

820
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: he had to leave. So here we are Ford center

821
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: out for Dallas. Thoughts on this skeets.

822
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: I don't have much. Yeah, I mean, we didn't know

823
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: how severe it was. We thought it was bad, but

824
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 5: I guess reevaluated in two weeks. It could be worse.

825
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 5: I mean, you do have the All Star break here,

826
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 5: so there'll be some time off. But yeah, no, it's

827
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: it's brutal.

828
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, man.

829
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: That feels like the basketball gods are having their say

830
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: here after trading their franchise player in Luca for ad

831
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: and pieces, and now everybody is down. Trey Kirby, I

832
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: think should get a chance. We're being honest, Let's play

833
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 5: some big minutes for the Mavericks.

834
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: They need a big guy man.

835
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 7: That's right, Tyler Kelly, Trey Kirby. Yeah, it's a good match. Yeah.

836
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 6: Alex lent off the board unfortunately for the Dallas Mavericks

837
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 6: as well, So I had to dip into spot track

838
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 6: to see who he even got potentially available as a

839
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 6: center for like a ten day contract as a stopgap measure.

840
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 6: And it's like Javan McGee, who's got a little Dallas experience, Boban, Maryanovich,

841
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 6: omer your seven, Damian Jones, shim I isi metu? Can

842
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 6: you get Billy hernan Gomez out of Spain?

843
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

844
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: Where's Rob?

845
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 6: Polinka said the center market is kind of dry at

846
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 6: the trade deadline. He was right, because those are not

847
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 6: great players that you're getting here.

848
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: Has DeMarcus Cousins officially officially officially retired.

849
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 6: He would be back in a second if you give

850
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: him a call. Yeah, yeah, him and Dwight like I mean,

851
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 6: waiting by the phone. Anytime a big guy gets hurt,

852
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 6: they buy extra minutes for their cell phone.

853
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. The weird thing is PJ. Washington also banged

854
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: up for the MAVs. They are oh lacking. Yeah, they'll

855
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: they'll take anybody.

856
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 7: I guess is nice.

857
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?

858
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: He's still out there, is he?

859
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 7: I guess? Yeah, at least bart of Thunder.

860
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah right. We'll see if the Dallas Mavericks can avoid

861
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: dropping out of a playing spot, because they still own

862
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: that right now. But they got a couple of tough

863
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: games before the All Star weekend, the Warriors and the Heat.

864
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: All right, Moving on. We talked to Joe Dumars yesterday

865
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 3: about why the All Star Game should be good this weekend,

866
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: also about the prize pool of money for All Stars.

867
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: We talked to him about a bunch of stuff. Here's

868
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: the conversation. Excited to have Hall of Famer he oversees

869
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: basketball operations in the league office, Joe Dumars Joe, thank

870
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: you for joining us today.

871
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: Happy to be.

872
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 8: Here, man, thanks for having me on.

873
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: Oh no, we are thankful to have you on, and

874
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: we're excited for the All Star weekend coming up, which

875
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: you have a lot of experience with being there six times.

876
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: Is there any one memory that stands out for you, Joe.

877
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 8: I think I guarantee you. For most guys, it's it's

878
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 8: their first All Star game, first of All Star game.

879
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: For me, I think it was in Miami and.

880
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 8: Walk in the room and you just look at the

881
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 8: lockers in there, and for me, I'm looking at lockers

882
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 8: Bird and Michael and Barkley and all the guys, and

883
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 8: you know, these are my contemporaries, but still I'm still

884
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 8: a kid. I'm probably twenty five or twenty six, and

885
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 8: just looking at the locker room when I walked in,

886
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 8: and just looking at all the jerseys hanging up, it

887
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 8: was just, I don't know.

888
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: I think the first time.

889
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 8: You ever walk in like that, and you're a young player,

890
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 8: I think that's always going to stick with you.

891
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: That makes me think of Kid and him going for

892
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: the first time. What are your thoughts on Kid cunning

893
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: him first time for a piston in a.

894
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 8: While yeah, man, so happy for Kate. You know, I

895
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 8: think for those who follow the game closely, like you guys,

896
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 8: do you realize that, you know, you hear people say, Man,

897
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 8: he's gonna have to take his game to the next level.

898
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 8: I think you're just seeing that right now. You're seeing

899
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 8: it play out right now. He's actually doing what people

900
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 8: say all the time. Guy needs to take his game

901
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 8: to the next level. He's taking it to the next level.

902
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 8: And he's been rewarded justifiably so as an All Star

903
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 8: this year, just just playing incredible basketball.

904
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 3: Now, I have to ask you, you know you oversee

905
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: the Office of Basketball Operations there this feels like we're

906
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: watching something unprecedented with Luka doncis being traded. Is there

907
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: anything that reminds you from the past about the same

908
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: type of deal?

909
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 8: Since this has taken place, you know, I've thought a

910
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 8: lot about this, this this trade and how it resonated

911
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 8: with so many people.

912
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: I think the reason that resonated so much. It's such

913
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: a story.

914
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 8: Is because it is unique, it is different. We have

915
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 8: not I can't think. I started thinking back, like, man,

916
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 8: where did this happen before? You know, when did this

917
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 8: happen before? Who did this happen to before? I just

918
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 8: can't think of it. It may be I just can't

919
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 8: think of it right now. And I think that's why

920
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 8: it's become such a big story because you know, look,

921
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 8: he's a generational talent, he's twenty five years old, and

922
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 8: he was traded in the middle of the season, and

923
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 8: so I just think those things right there, if you

924
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 8: just say those things out loud, yes, you go, okay,

925
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 8: this is different, you know. And so I think that's

926
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 8: why it's becomes such a story because of those three

927
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 8: things right there. Generational talent, twenty five traded in the

928
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 8: middle of the season.

929
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you said those words, you said the words traded.

930
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: Even to me, even though it's happened ten days ago now,

931
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: it still makes me feel like I definitely haven't seen

932
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: it covering the NBA here for like twenty years. It

933
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: just feels so different. So it is. It is something

934
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: that we're watching here in this very very fun season.

935
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: And I want to get your opinion. What who you

936
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: think is going to be MVP this season.

937
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 8: I don't know, it's probably not for me in my

938
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 8: position here too partificate on too much, give too much

939
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 8: of a of a guest who might be I wouldn't

940
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 8: do that. I will say though, that what your Ki

941
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 8: and SGA are doing is simply special. And so those guys,

942
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 8: you know, they've been kind of the top two guys

943
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 8: all year. I just think what you're seeing is some

944
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 8: really special basketball. It doesn't happen every year, it doesn't

945
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 8: happen every generation, and so I just think that you know,

946
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 8: whoever wins this, and there are other guys who are

947
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 8: playing incredible to us, has been playing incredible this year.

948
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 8: Jay Tatum has been playing incredible. Lebron James has been

949
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 8: playing incredible. Forty years old, he's been playing club. So

950
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 8: whoever wins it is going to be deserving. But I

951
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 8: do say, man, what you're seeing right now in the league,

952
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 8: right now, with these young guys and what they're doing

953
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 8: on the quarter on nightly basis, is simply amazing, and

954
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 8: I'm a fan of it. I tipped my hat to

955
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 8: these young guys.

956
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: They are incredible. I appreciate the answer because we asked

957
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: the late great to Kenby Mtumbo and it was a

958
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: January came into the studio and we asked him, and

959
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: we got off the camera and he said, are you

960
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: asking me about MVP in January. Man, it's too early

961
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: for that. He was awesome and he predicted Gianasu. You

962
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: know he was right, and he got He got there,

963
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: Jannis got there. Let's move on to the new All

964
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: Star format. You being such a great defender, Joe, do

965
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: you think these changes will induce a little bit of

966
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: defense out there this year?

967
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 8: We're hoping, so, we really are. We're really hoping so

968
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 8: that it can add some excitement to the game. Look,

969
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 8: with these games being shorter, shorter burst of games is

970
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 8: how I've described it. These are short burst. You don't

971
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 8: have time to work your way into the game, Like

972
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 8: you know, if the target score is forty, you know,

973
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 8: four or five threes in a row, you know you're

974
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 8: getting close to halfway there already. And so I'm just saying,

975
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 8: like you have to. I think you just have to

976
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 8: play a lot quicker, short burst. And so we're really

977
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 8: hoping that it really turns into some exciting basketball.

978
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: For the fans. Right it's four teams, three games to

979
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: forty points.

980
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 8: Yep.

981
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: I think that definitely does encourage a little bit inspired ball,

982
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: just because you know it can be really fifteen buckets game.

983
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 8: Did you watch the All Star Game last year.

984
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: I was there, Okay, so I think about that game, right, yeap?

985
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 8: So I was thinking about that game and I said,

986
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 8: I think, if I'm not mistaken, that Halliburton hit like

987
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 8: five threes in the first quarter. And I was thinking

988
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 8: about that, and I was like, man, that's fifteen points already.

989
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 8: And he did that like within like maybe a five

990
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 8: minute span or less. And I started thinking about how

991
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 8: quickly you can get to forty if you get guys

992
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 8: who just get hot and get into a zone and

993
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 8: get on a roll.

994
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 3: It could I mean, it could really be excited.

995
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 8: If these guys start really dialing in and knocking down

996
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 8: those long shots.

997
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: Totally, it can fly by just like that. It can

998
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: go extremely quickly. And that's actually one of the concerns

999
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: I had thinking about three quick games that could be

1000
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 3: over real fast, not just because guys aren't playing hard

1001
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: or not playing defense, just because of how many points

1002
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: they can score. Is there a possibility that this thing

1003
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: takes twenty minutes and we're done here?

1004
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, So back to your point that you said earlier, though,

1005
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 8: So if a guy comes down and he hits four

1006
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 8: threes on me, man, I am about to lock into him,

1007
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 8: And I think to your point about defense, I think

1008
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 8: if a guy his three or four threes in a

1009
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 8: rowin you and you know that game is to forty,

1010
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 8: you got you gotta you gotta check up. Man, You've

1011
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 8: got to get into that guy and make sure he

1012
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 8: just doesn't roll you off the court with threes like that.

1013
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 8: So I do think that there's a chance of that

1014
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 8: happening as well.

1015
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Totally. Last year when I was in person, I remember

1016
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: Giannis speaking of him in an MVP. I remember him

1017
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: one of the players was him getting down into a

1018
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: defensive position guarding a three point shooter. And last year,

1019
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: guys were flying up and down the floor, and the

1020
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 3: guys were kind of chilling out at times because it's

1021
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: hard work playing playing defense over and over and over again.

1022
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: But if you're playing till forty, yeah, that's a lot different.

1023
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: That's kind of like a quarter. So it should be exciting.

1024
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be you know, in the intermissions,

1025
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: they'll be the concerts, there'll be shows, there'll be stuff

1026
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: going on in the arena. So I'm looking forward to that.

1027
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: One thing I wanted to ask you about, was it

1028
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: the prize pool of cash going around to everybody, which

1029
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 3: I think helps out. The price pool is one point

1030
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: eight mil, with each member of the Winter team receiving

1031
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five thousand. How's that decided? Will

1032
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: it grow? And do the players know about it? I

1033
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: suppose since I know about it, the players must know

1034
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 3: about it. They do know about it.

1035
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Listen, one of the biggest things in the NBA

1036
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 8: practice is one hundred dollars bill being placed at half

1037
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 8: court and everybody's lining up to shoot for it. And

1038
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 8: invariably you see the guy who wins it. You would

1039
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 8: think he won like he's going.

1040
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 3: To the final.

1041
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: So yes, they know it matters.

1042
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 8: And like I said, even if it's one hundred dollars

1043
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 8: after practice, everybody wants to win the money man. So

1044
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 8: so these guys will be they'll be pumped, and they

1045
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 8: know exactly what it is and and they'll play for it.

1046
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: They'll play for that.

1047
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 8: But I really do think that I'm gonna go back

1048
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 8: to the game. I really do think that the forty

1049
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 8: point games can inspire.

1050
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: Some good basketball. Yeah, I totally agree. I think the

1051
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: format is the main point here. The price pool money

1052
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: is it's kind of going under the radar, right now. Yeah,

1053
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: but it is it is something for them to play

1054
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: for something. Yeah, exactly one thing I'll ask you before

1055
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: I let you go, being from the the eighties and

1056
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: the nineties when the Slam Dunk Contest was a little

1057
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: different where the stars were definitely inspired to go into it. Obviously,

1058
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: Michael Meek, the guys you were mentioning, can we.

1059
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 7: Get back to that?

1060
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: Is there a way to get back to that or

1061
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: what's what's the idea just after we have I'm sure

1062
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: great dunkers here this weekend? Mm hm. Is there a

1063
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: way to get the All Stars more of them involved?

1064
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1065
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 8: I think. I think what's happening is I think some

1066
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 8: of the young stars who may not quite be an

1067
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 8: All Star yet, they're like one year away from maybe

1068
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 8: being an All Star. I think you're going to see

1069
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 8: those guys. You know, we've been close to getting some

1070
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 8: of those guys. They're young stars, they haven't crossed the

1071
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 8: threshold of being an official All Star yet, but.

1072
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: People know exactly who they are.

1073
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 8: I think you're going to start seeing those guys get

1074
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 8: more into the Dunk Contest.

1075
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: I think it'd be great.

1076
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 7: I do, I really do.

1077
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 8: I think you know, you put name players out there

1078
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 8: that people know and identify with and follow their teams.

1079
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: I think it all helps.

1080
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: I think these young.

1081
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 8: Guys this year, I think kids like Castle and these

1082
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 8: guys like that from San Antonio. I think people are

1083
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 8: going to be surprised that what these guys are uber athletic,

1084
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 8: like crazy hops and so I do think these guys,

1085
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 8: these young guys. And then McClung has also done his thing,

1086
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 8: like two years in a row, this will be three

1087
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 8: in a row. So I do think these young guys.

1088
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 8: As much as we want to see the All Stars,

1089
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 8: you know, I'm not sleeping on these young guys. They're

1090
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 8: gonna on the show.

1091
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

1092
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 8: These young kids are crazy. They got crazy hops man.

1093
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Stefan Castle's got it this weekend. I

1094
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: believe in him, and.

1095
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: You see some of the Duncy dozen games.

1096
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 8: He drives down the lane.

1097
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1098
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 8: Like I was in Paris at the game San Antonio, Indiana,

1099
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 8: and I was right under the basket. He drove down

1100
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 8: the lane, but it wasn't like a crazy burst, right.

1101
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 8: So when a guy turns the corner and he has

1102
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 8: a crazy burst, immediately.

1103
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: You think, oh he could jam this.

1104
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: He went down the lane like half speed and the next.

1105
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 8: Thing you know, his head was up around the ram

1106
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 8: and I remember thinking, this is this is unbelievable to

1107
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 8: watch this kid like he wasn't even going full speed

1108
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 8: and boom his head was up over the room and

1109
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 8: I was like, man, this is insane. How how this

1110
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 8: young kid can get up?

1111
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched him, and I think his euro step

1112
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: is probably the sixont one in the league. I don't

1113
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: know if he can implement that with the dunk, but

1114
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: uh yeah, sometimes I just watch him. I mean I

1115
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: was I was in bed watching a Milwaukee San Antonio

1116
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: game and to see him. He dunked on Brook no problem. Yeah, yeah,

1117
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: that was a nice one.

1118
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 8: And so do you know how hard it is to

1119
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 8: do that one leg like eurostep and stop, like to

1120
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 8: decelerate like that.

1121
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: It's I'm telling you man, I'm.

1122
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 8: Like really impressed with a lot of these young guys.

1123
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: Man.

1124
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I was thinking about Evan Mobley did

1125
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: it yesterday and how he see him He stopped on

1126
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: one leg and I just couldn't believe it, being a

1127
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: giant like that where he was able to just stop.

1128
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 3: He's he changed his pace and it was wow, unbelievable,

1129
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: supposed to stop like, oh wow. Yeah, it's great against

1130
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: UH Minnesota yesterday. So I appreciate Joe, I appreciate your time.

1131
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you.

1132
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: I can ask you. Will you be in attendance. I

1133
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 3: gotta assume you'll beat the house. Oh yeah, I'll be there. Yeah,

1134
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: I will be there. It'll be a fun one. So yeah,

1135
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: it'll be a fun way.

1136
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: It should be a fun.

1137
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: Weekend, I imagine. I bet it will.

1138
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 8: I know.

1139
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: I know there's some people wondering, well, well this is

1140
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: new format work blah blah blah. Yeah, all right, Joe,

1141
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: I thank you so much for your time. Joe, thank you.

1142
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: And Joe do mars some on that All Star game.

1143
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 7: I like it.

1144
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 6: Ye, seems like a great guy man, not the oldhead

1145
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 6: who hates the new way of playing in the NBA.

1146
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 6: This guy's bigg en up all the young guys. But

1147
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 6: hearing him talk, it seems like we need to put

1148
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 6: the prize money at half court.

1149
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 7: He said.

1150
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 6: If they're going crazy for one hundred dollars and half

1151
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 6: court shots, imagine if you put two hundred and fifty

1152
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 6: k there.

1153
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very very good point.

1154
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, do it like squid games.

1155
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 5: Get the big piggybank and you know, have it hanging

1156
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 5: from the JumboTron.

1157
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 4: Put all the money in there. That'd be cool.

1158
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: Well, one thing that will be on the court is

1159
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart, because Kevin Hart has been announced as the

1160
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: first MC of the All Star Game, first ever on court,

1161
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 3: specifically of the All Star Game. What are your thoughts?

1162
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: Skates will start with.

1163
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: You, Oh baby, oh baby?

1164
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 5: Uh, I don't know. I I guess it depends how

1165
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: you feel about Kevin Hart. I guess if we're being honest, like,

1166
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 5: if you think he's funny and you know, obviously does

1167
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 5: have energy, I'll give him that.

1168
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: Then maybe he adds something.

1169
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: But if you find him tiresome or not funny, then

1170
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 5: I could see you thinking this is gonna be very annoying,

1171
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 5: which it could be in play here. But I did

1172
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 5: have a pretty good laugh at the press release that

1173
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 5: said quote Heart, a longtime friend of the NBA and

1174
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 5: four time NBA All Stars celebrity game MVP will bring

1175
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 5: his signature humor and energy to the reimagined All Star

1176
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 5: Game format, and he will be doing I guess commentary

1177
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 5: from the court as it unfolds.

1178
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the scary part. That is it more

1179
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: like an end one game.

1180
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: That's how I read it. Yeah, I would hope.

1181
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 7: So, yeah, that's what I want.

1182
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 6: I don't want a stand up routine during the game.

1183
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 6: I want to know baby guy. Yeah for the most part,

1184
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 6: coming up with nicknames, you know. I guess it'd be

1185
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 6: a little bit like a hybrid of what Common did

1186
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 6: when he did the introduction.

1187
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 7: It was coming up with lines for everybody. So I'm

1188
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 7: a little skeptical.

1189
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 6: I'm a little skeptical of everything with this All Star weekend.

1190
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 7: But maybe it'll work out great.

1191
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: Well. The thing I loved about Common, it was before

1192
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: the game, Yes, and that's it. Then they played basketball

1193
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: he was done talking. Yeah, this will be different with

1194
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart on the mic, you know what, throughout the

1195
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: game on the court. Yeah, it will be different. How

1196
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: much is he going to talk? Well, the guy's even

1197
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: engage with him or like it? I mean, will it

1198
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: bothered them a little bit to hear and one ish

1199
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 3: type of thing, like they'll be piping through the speakers

1200
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: I imagine or maybe not. I guess you would have to.

1201
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 4: Be able to hear it there, Yeah, I think so.

1202
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there with a mic literally standing on the floor.

1203
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: Yet you're gonna be hearing.

1204
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: I was, you know, I was when I first read this,

1205
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 5: I rolled my eyes and I was like, Okay, what

1206
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 5: are we doing here? But now, like maybe hearing Joe

1207
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 5: Dumar's talk a little bit and maybe obviously talking about

1208
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 5: this new format, could Kevin Hart play a role hear

1209
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 5: me out here in getting some of these guys to

1210
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 5: actually play defense, and like because you could sort of

1211
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: like clown the guy in the game, right, you know,

1212
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 5: if Halliburton or not Halliburton this year, but if somebody

1213
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 5: hits a couple threes in somebody's eye, you could see

1214
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 5: heart being like, come on, Lebron, you're gonna let him

1215
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 5: do that again? Like I don't know, maybe maybe encourages

1216
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 5: a little more intensity and I mean, I'm sure some

1217
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 5: hilarious antics as well, but maybe that works.

1218
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 3: Don't know, it's possible, or it's the other side where

1219
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: Lebron says, way, why are you talking during a game?

1220
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 8: Man?

1221
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: Well, and then that that doesn't encourage you, it actually

1222
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: demotivates it.

1223
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 5: You know, don't you think that like ninety percent of

1224
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 5: it will be pretty bad and sort of cringey. And

1225
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 5: then maybe you know, there's like one or two moments

1226
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 5: that come out of this All Star game format with

1227
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 5: Kevin Hart engaging with somebody or getting trucked over by

1228
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: somebody or whatever it is. That's like your viral moment.

1229
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 5: And then it's like, Okay, the rest of it all sucked,

1230
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: but who cares.

1231
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: In the end.

1232
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that's possible. Yeah, I just wanted one or two

1233
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: moments of defense. That's what I desire and defense. Yeah,

1234
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: and Kevin Hart played like guys playing hard. I don't

1235
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: know if that inspires it. I have no idea.

1236
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess we'll see. They should maybe give Lebron

1237
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 6: a microphone as well. Him and Kevin Hart like do

1238
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 6: commercials together. Yeah, they got a little bit of a

1239
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 6: relationship and maybe some chemistry that could play through. So

1240
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 6: I guess we'll see. And it also sounds like skeets

1241
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 6: Kevin Hart. It's a basketball reference page. Got a four

1242
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 6: times the Celebrity GAMEMVP. He raced Usain Bolt. He was

1243
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 6: in a three point shooting contest with Draymond beating. Yeah,

1244
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 6: he did a dun't contest with a kid at one point,

1245
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 6: didn't he?

1246
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 7: Yes, this guy has done a lot tray.

1247
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: He's a longtime friend of the NBA.

1248
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, one of the friends, the friendliest friends. I would say,

1249
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 7: I forgot.

1250
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: I can't remember the race against your saying Bolt, I all.

1251
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 7: Think saw that earlier today on Twitter.

1252
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: Oh that is.

1253
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 7: They do a lot of experiments at All Star weekends.

1254
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: It's entirely fine. And we didn't have the chance to

1255
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: talk to Joe Dumars about it. I'm sure Joe knew

1256
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: about it. It wasn't announced to the public till after

1257
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: our interview, because I would have definitely asked him about it.

1258
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure he is, along with everybody in the NBA,

1259
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: is feeling it out. As you said, they try stuff

1260
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: TBD here.

1261
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 5: We keep trying stuff, and I'm really appreciative that Joe

1262
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 5: came on and that was really a fun interview. I

1263
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: just am not convinced the format matters at all. I

1264
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 5: think it just comes down to the players deciding. I

1265
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: don't think it matters if it's a mini game or

1266
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 5: an East versus West or a World versus USA. I

1267
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 5: don't to get to a competitive ending and a competitive game,

1268
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 5: that's the players.

1269
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: They have to decide that. So you know, I could

1270
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: just anyway.

1271
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 5: We'll see fingers crossed that they decide to play a

1272
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 5: little bit on this year.

1273
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said there might be a couple of

1274
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: viral moments from Kevin Hart saying something funny. All we're

1275
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: looking for is a few good moments in the games.

1276
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we're not asking them to play.

1277
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: That's why they're making them as short as possible.

1278
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the game, the games could just could

1279
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: be some five ten possessions of guys playing hard. That's

1280
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: all you're asking, That's all you're really asking. And that's

1281
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: all it was. Even in Joe Dumar's days, it was

1282
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: more of a fourth quarter where they really locked down. Yeah,

1283
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: So TBD on that. We'll see. We'll see this weekend,

1284
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: all right. Moving on to tonight's pick them payoff game.

1285
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Grizzlies going to Los Angeles to play the Clippers.

1286
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: They're on a back to back, and they get four

1287
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: and a half points. Because they're on that back to back,

1288
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: the Clippers got to win by five or more. The

1289
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 3: Grizzly win eleven deep yesterday. I don't think they're too tired,

1290
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 3: and that's why I'm taking them. You guys got no

1291
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: problem taking the Clippers? Is it the back to back thing.

1292
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: You think Grizzlies are going to be tired going into

1293
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: Los Angeles to day.

1294
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the back to back to me is the

1295
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 6: main thing, just because I mean, like, is John Morank

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Speaker 6: gonna play? Yeah, I don't feel like he's been playing

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Speaker 6: back to backs lately, and that would obviously be a

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Speaker 6: loss for the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 7: And you know it's the start of the Ben Simmons

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Speaker 7: era in La so we shall.

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Speaker 3: That's a very good point. You got any thoughts on this, skeets.

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Speaker 5: No, it's getting cold here in space, man. One of

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Speaker 5: the lights went out back here. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: we forgot to charge it yesterday. Oh yeah, just trying

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Speaker 5: to stay alive, tasks, trying to get home to my daughter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah were I don't know how it is in space,

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Speaker 3: but we are getting storm coming down here to Atlanta. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're on a stream team here where John Horne said

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Speaker 3: it's minus two celsius in western Canada. It's going to

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Speaker 3: get below zero and below thirty two fahrenheit in Georgia

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Speaker 3: this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Just doing a weather report of what is going on.

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Speaker 3: Right now, the storms, storms everywhere.

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Speaker 7: Ye stay safe out their people. Yeah, well it hasn't

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Speaker 7: been canceled yet, but I'm sure it'll happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could very well.

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Speaker 7: A little chilly this morning, and he's yours.

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Speaker 3: You can't be cold back there.

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Speaker 4: No, I was making a space joke.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, but I will say we are going

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Speaker 5: to be doing a lot of live shows this weekend

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Speaker 5: around the All Star weekend content. So we uh, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna be live for that All Star Saturday night. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna do a reaction podcast after. We're gonna do a

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Speaker 5: reaction podcast after Sunday night. They won't send us to

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Speaker 5: the Bay, so we bring the Bay to us.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, we looking forward to that.

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Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, you'll just be sitting here. I think you're

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Speaker 3: out of space after Friday, So just two more shows

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Speaker 3: for you, Cooper Station by then. All right, that's it

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Speaker 3: for us. We will be back tomorrow. But for now,

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Speaker 3: Clipper bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first.

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Speaker 7: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome,

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Speaker 7: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: And remember Joe Dumars and Jason Doyle have the same

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Speaker 6: initials and the same glasses.

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Speaker 4: Breaks the eight People