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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show. Now, maybe the perfect

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Speaker 1: time for Chase Edmonds to return, That is, if he's

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Speaker 1: if he is healthy enough then the offense could definitely

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Speaker 1: use him first though. What's the latest on DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: and James Connor regarding their status? This week it Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two Episode five ten, and it starts now. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, visit asy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand

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Speaker 1: to catch in a touchdown? DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu

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Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. So it's already Wednesday. Him. I know

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Speaker 1: that sounds weird to say, but having a game on

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Speaker 1: Monday nights really threw my schedule off to where this

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Speaker 1: morning I woke up thinking, all right, okay, it's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: we'll focus on this week. The short week doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: and then you know, yesterday we do the Red Sea Reporter.

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Speaker 1: we're talking about just getting sleep, and these guys will

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Speaker 1: tell you about sports science and pilates and yoga. You

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Speaker 1: The NFL Network reported it's Hopkins' knee. He had an

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Speaker 1: have to I do who they want to bring back.

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Speaker 1: But he's chomping at the bit, so I'm very optimistic

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Speaker 1: that he will play on Sunday Cardinals Covered two presented

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Speaker 1: by Unday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. The other

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Speaker 1: aspect of this conversation, and you've brought him up, Kyler Murray,

432
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Speaker 1: and we kind of have the same opinion, but we

433
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Speaker 1: come of different ways to attack the opinion, and that

434
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Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray running the football. Kyler Murray of the

435
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: past two games one hundred and twenty rushing yards, and

436
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Speaker 1: that's because of whether in Chicago he needed to run

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Speaker 1: to help the offense against the Rams. He needed to

438
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Speaker 1: run because nothing else was working against that defense. During

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Speaker 1: the first eight games, Kyle Murray had a total of

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven rushing yards, so only twenty

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Speaker 1: two excuse me, yeah, twenty seven more rushing yards in

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Speaker 1: eight games as opposed to one hundred and twenty in

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Speaker 1: two games. The difference in those first eight games he

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Speaker 1: was running because his first, second, third, fourth, fifth option

445
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: wasn't available or he caught the defense off guard. His

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00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: legs were a luxury. These past two games, his legs

447
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: have not been a luxury. It's been out of necessity.

448
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: And I want to see that change. Kyler Murray cannot

449
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Speaker 1: run out of necessity for this offense to be successful.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened a year ago. And though the offense

451
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Speaker 1: bogged down at the tail end of twenty twenty. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: and the reason why he wasn't a running because you

453
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Speaker 1: had a healthy Chase Sevens and a healthy James Connor.

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Speaker 1: But you know how I feel. I mean, he's so

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Speaker 1: dynamic in the open field, but to me, he's your

456
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: third option. And again, Jonathan Ward, really who doesn't touch

457
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Speaker 1: the ball even though he's capable of doing in it.

458
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: And maybe you get in the fourth quarter this week

459
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: and you pound a guy like Jonathan Ward, preserve Connor,

460
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Speaker 1: preserve Edmonds for the following week, it's another short week

461
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: against the cult. So but that's when that's because they

462
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: had that one two punch and then Eno got some

463
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Speaker 1: opportunities there. So if they get back to that formula,

464
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Kyler doesn't have to run, but he would be a

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Speaker 1: luxury because when when a play breaks down, you said

466
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Speaker 1: he's going through his options and all of a sudden

467
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Speaker 1: he's got a you know, impervise. But when he takes

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Speaker 1: off and runs and he really hasn't taken those big hits,

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Speaker 1: and I know the last couple of years that's been

470
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Speaker 1: the issue with the hamstring and the shoulder. He protects himself.

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Speaker 1: He runs out of bounce more. But to me it's

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Speaker 1: just it's it's a luxury. But he's so dynamic where

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put the handcuffs on the guy.

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Speaker 1: Dynamic is the word Kingsbury used Earlier on Wednesday, he

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Speaker 1: was asked about Murray running more, especially these past two games. Quote,

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Speaker 1: I'm all four, that's his game. I think that's when

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Speaker 1: he most effective end quotes. And I do believe Kingsbury

478
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Speaker 1: believes that. But as far as a game plan, if

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Speaker 1: you do have a Chase Edmonds and a James Connor,

480
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: then he don't need a Kyler Murray. He becomes that

481
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: wild card if you other defenses have to worry about.

482
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Speaker 1: But when you lose a Chase Edmonds and James Connor

483
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Speaker 1: is your only guy and things aren't successful in Chicago

484
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Speaker 1: or against the Rams. Then all of a sudden, it's okay.

485
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Speaker 1: Well in cases of emergency break glass, here comes Kyler

486
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Speaker 1: Murray because we know he can do it. And I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with that. I just don't want it to become

488
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Speaker 1: a regular occurrence. And for two games now it has

489
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Speaker 1: whether more in Chicago, but we cannot have another Rams

490
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: offensive performance. Someone else has to come in and step up,

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Speaker 1: whether that is with or without DeAndre Hopkins, because we

492
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Speaker 1: cannot see here over these final four games, Kyler Murray

493
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Speaker 1: put the offense on his shoulders. Now, I'll buy it.

494
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: Now as a quarterback, that's kind of what he's doing.

495
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: But he needs to get rid of the football, either

496
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Speaker 1: throwing it or handing the ball. And I think that's

497
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Speaker 1: the plan, you know, But he was getting pressured. He

498
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Speaker 1: couldn't sit in the pocket, and he rolled out and

499
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: he was scrambling and he you know, he had that

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Speaker 1: eighteen yard running I know, somewhere and engage it based

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Speaker 1: on penalties. But yeah, I think we're gonna see the

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Speaker 1: recipe with the one two punch and then if he

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Speaker 1: needs to, if if they want to, you know, um

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00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: move him on the pocket. He's gonna take off and

505
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Speaker 1: so I don't don't. I don't was a seven carry's

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Speaker 1: last game, correct, seventeen total now in the last two games, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think we're gonna see those numbers

508
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Speaker 1: like that. I think it's more three to five max.

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Speaker 1: And you brought up how many times Murray was pressured

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Speaker 1: ESPN Stats and Info. Murray pressured on nineteen plays, a

511
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Speaker 1: career high nineteen plays in which he was eight of twelve,

512
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Speaker 1: four hundred and forty one yards and four sacks went pressured.

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Speaker 1: So not so much running but scrambling and scrambling for

514
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Speaker 1: his life. So that's again credit to that Rams fronts.

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Speaker 1: But look at that Cardinals offensive line, say, you did

516
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: not do your job. One of the worst performances of

517
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: the old line all season, if not the worst performance,

518
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: forcing Kyle Murray to do something that I don't think

519
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: he really likes to do. He is a pocket passer,

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00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 1: very comfortable throwing from the pocket, very successful throwing from

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Speaker 1: the pocket, can also throw when he scrambles, but he

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Speaker 1: was scrambling way too much on Monday. Well, I mean,

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00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: let's be honest, the defense didn't play well either. Secondary

524
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: probably the worst game of the year. And then the

525
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Speaker 1: front seven they just couldn't get pressure. I mean Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald had fourteen or fifteen pressures in that game. Yeah,

527
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: four more or five more than the entire Cardinals team exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So and Matthew Stafford, I don't think he's I don't

529
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: think his uniform got dirty. And they were playing on

530
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: real grass. It looked like that he was. They almost

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00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: had him in a bubble. He was making all the throws.

532
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Speaker 1: So yeah, like I said, I do think Kyler likes

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Speaker 1: to run when he has to. From a standpoint of

534
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I always say it. He reminds me of Devin Hester

535
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: in the open field, and he makes grown men look silly.

536
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I don't want to take that away

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Speaker 1: from him. But when you got the one two punch

538
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: and then sitting in the pocket, if they can protect him,

539
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: that's that's where he excels. And it's coming from the sideline.

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Speaker 1: As far as how many called runs, how many design runs,

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Speaker 1: and if it's Kyler's decision, that's one thing. And I

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00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, it's hard watching the game. Some plays

543
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: are easier to dissect than others. But how much is

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00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: it Kyler seeing something? How much is it while it's

545
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: the play says quarterback draw or you know what you're

546
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: running on this play. I don't know where that split

547
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: happens because you can make a design run look like

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00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: it's the quarterback's decision and vice versus. So we do know,

549
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: and we've heard Kyle Murray talk about it repeatedly. He

550
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: doesn't want to run, he wants to throw the football,

551
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: but he can run and will run if necessary. But

552
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: these past two games too many times it's been when necessary,

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00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: and yeah that those two words when't necessary. I don't like,

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00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: I understand, but that's why he's one of the most

555
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: dynamic players. It's what sets him apart from everyone else.

556
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: He's a dual threat. I mean, yes, Lamar Jackson got hurt.

557
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers. They don't run like

558
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, but they run to get out of traffic

559
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and they can run to get a first down. Now,

560
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes will slide, but that's who he is. That's what

561
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: makes him so dynamic, where he's just not a pocket

562
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: passer like you know, Ryan Tannehill or Tom Brady. That's

563
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Speaker 1: one That's why he is who he is. So I

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00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: don't want to put the handcuffs that I said, I

565
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: don't want to be redundant here. But again, I don't

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Speaker 1: see him getting seventeen carries in the next two games

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Speaker 1: like he had ten and seven that will go to

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Speaker 1: the running backs. Yeah, let's hope that the case. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this notes on Kyler going into this game

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00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions, two hundred eighteen passing yards and

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00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: one touchdown pass away from a third straight season with

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Speaker 1: three thousand or more passing yards and twenty or more

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes. So some individual marks, milestones, records if you will,

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Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray coming up this week against the Lions.

575
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Speaker 1: It is week fifteen. But you look at this Lions

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Speaker 1: defense and you touched on it earlier. It is a

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Speaker 1: defense that you can run on. They are twenty eighth

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00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: against the run, seventeenth against the pass, but they have

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Speaker 1: one on their unofficial depth chart. They have one cornerback listed.

580
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: It is Amani Aru Warria, who has five interceptions this season.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why they have just one cornerback on

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Speaker 1: their unofficial depth chart is because they have three on

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Speaker 1: the reserve. COVID nineteen lists another one on the practice

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Speaker 1: squad reserve COVID nineteen lists plus three on injury reserve,

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Speaker 1: including the former number three overall draft pick in twenty twenty, Jeffakuda.

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00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: So it is a banged up secondary. And when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Lions defense to where the numbers don't

588
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: look good, do you run against them? Do you throw

589
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: against them? I'm doing both. I'm just gonna say you

590
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: could very well do both. And teams have done both

591
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: on the lines all year. I mean we heard all week.

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00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: You know, the Rams beat Jacksonville and people will look

593
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: at the record and that was with their get back game.

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00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: This is a get back game for the Arizona Cardinals.

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00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: They should be at a score points here. I'm not

596
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: listening to The team plays hard, they probably should have

597
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: more wins at this point in the year throughout the records,

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: but they just don't have the talent. They may be

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00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: able to play like the Texans did, maybe for the

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00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: first quarter and a half, but as the game goes on,

601
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: the team with more talent, but it's all about execution.

602
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: The best team doesn't always win on Sunday, or the

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: most talented team is a team that plays the best

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00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: on that day. But this is a get back game

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00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: for the Arizona car just like it was for the

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Speaker 1: Rams with the Jaguars. And there's no debate the Cardinals

607
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: are a more talented team on paper and on the

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Speaker 1: football field. But it's your point. The keyword is execution

609
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: and also a little bit mindset. What is the mindset

610
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: going into this game? Because the Cardinals won, they need

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Speaker 1: to win. The playoffs scenario remains the same. Win and

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00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: you're in. You clinch a playoff spot. You can also

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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: back in your way, but those are other scenarios. Cardinals

614
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: win much rather win and punch their own ticket. And

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00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: then you look at the Lions record one eleven and

616
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: one on paper, you look and say, well, that's an

617
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: easy win. Well, we've heard from players, we've heard from

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00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: coaches already this week that this Lions team will play hard,

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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: they'll play the entire sixty minutes, they'll play to the whistle,

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00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: they play for their head coach. Despite the record, there

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Speaker 1: is much respect for Dan Campbell and an entire coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't come ready, and that would be

623
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Speaker 1: the worry. If you don't come ready, you don't bring it,

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00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: you're not prepared, and you're looking ahead to Christmas day

625
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: against the Indianapolis Colts. The Cardinals will lose. Yeah, I don't. Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't see that they lost that game. They were

627
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: embarrassed on national TV twice now and also people have

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00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: to know though, yes they lost three consecutive home games.

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Speaker 1: We look at the Panthers game and that was just

630
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: a dud. They had a great game plan. But they're

631
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: they lost to the Packers and Rams. These are playoff teams.

632
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: They're playoff teams. So M and I and I said it.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the last couple of days, I think

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Speaker 1: it would have been difficult to go six and o

635
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: in the division. Now they should be able to sweep

636
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They swept with forty nine ers and they

637
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: split with the Rams. I'll I mean, if you were

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00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: told me they're in, I would last year two and

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00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: oh and then two and four. Yeah, we would go

640
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: three and three. Make sure you take care of business

641
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: at home and on the road. But five and one.

642
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm not worried about a hiccup

643
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: or overlooking for this Christmas game. This team plays well

644
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: better on the road. That's why I don't have any concerns.

645
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: But when you hear coaches say, we can probably go

646
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: back to the Texans week when they say teams play

647
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: hard and they play you know, four quarters, that means

648
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: they're not as talented as another team. But again, it's

649
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: a team that plays the best on that day is

650
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna win the football game. Well, I have to do

651
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: his point. If i'm if I'm Cliff Kingsbury or any

652
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: of those coaches, I'm turning on the Texans film and going,

653
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: here's the first fifteen minutes. We played home against the Texans.

654
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: The first fifteen minutes, and then you go into the

655
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: second quarter, you're trailing five. Nothing. Now, at no point

656
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: in that game was anyone concerned because at the end,

657
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: talent wins out. And what was happening early in that game,

658
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: they were hitting Kyler Murray. He was getting hit Malie Collins.

659
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: Nobody really talking about it. He was getting hit. And

660
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: then luckily, you know Davis Mills and that was a

661
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: game that JJ Watt obviously injured his shoulders. So yeah,

662
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no I'm not paranoid. Just team

663
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: going on the road and taking care of business. I

664
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: said last week, they know what's at stake. I'm disappointed,

665
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: but not discouraged. I mean because they had an opportunity

666
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: to clinch and then if they beat the Rams and

667
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: they win against the Lions, they would have won the division. Okay,

668
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: it didn't happen, but I am I was disappointed. It

669
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: was a sting driving home then night, like, Uh, they

670
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: missed an opportunity. But we know the Rams came in

671
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: with they were desperate. They treated like a playoff game,

672
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals should treat this week like a playoff game.

673
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: They should. I don't care what the record is and

674
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: it's not about us. According to Buddha Baker, if we

675
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: do things right nine times out of ten, we win

676
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: end quote. Yeah, you focus your game plan for the Lions,

677
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: but clean up what didn't go right on Monday night football.

678
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what the Lions do because you

679
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: are better. And the words of JJ Watt, maybe we're

680
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: just better. No not maybe you are yeah, and I

681
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: as Buddha and usually there's twenty five hour rule. But

682
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: this is the first time we got a chance to

683
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: talk to him. And obviously after he had his daughter

684
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: and he was he's a true pro. He could have

685
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: said we're moving on because it's one week at a time,

686
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: but he said that, I said, what you guys can

687
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: take from that? And I was told that they watched

688
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: film and they know that there's a lot of mistakes

689
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: out there, a lot of mental errors. Guys were kind

690
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: of freelancing a little bit. Guys weren't taking the same

691
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: angles on some of the tackles, and I think it

692
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: showed so. But I have zero worries going to Detroit,

693
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: not against the record about this team, how they focus

694
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: and play on the road. Well, just looking again, we

695
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: tied a touchdown a little bit. But with Detroit defensively

696
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: twenty ninth overall, twenty eighth against the run, seventeenth against

697
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: the past, they're only twenty ninth as far as scoring defense.

698
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: They're allowing more than twenty seven points per game. They're

699
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: twenty ninth on third down, thirty first on fourth down,

700
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: thirty first in the red zone. I mean, you're talking

701
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: about not just the bottom third in the league, but

702
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: the bottom five as far as defense is concerned. That's

703
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: all statistics on paper, and it looks great for the

704
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: Cardinals going into the matchup. But they do have guys

705
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: that will make plays. Charles Harris, they're outside linebacker six sacks,

706
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: thirteen quarterback hits. Josh Woods last week a career high

707
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: thirteen tackles, ten of them solo. Well, Harris, their safety

708
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: sometimes plays in the slot a career eight tackles last week. Now,

709
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: they've been forced to make a lot of plays because

710
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: the offenses are good that they're facing. Then they haven't

711
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: been able to stop there on the field for a

712
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: number of plays. So there's a number of opportunities to

713
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: build up these stats. But you look and there's not

714
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: a lot of household names as far as defensive players

715
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: outside of defensive end. Michael Brockers and I'm not exactly

716
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: sure he's roll thrilled to be in Detroit after being

717
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: traded away from the Lions. Yeah, and after he ripped

718
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: Jerrek Off. Yes, by the way, just as an aside,

719
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: I cut and paced that quote because I figured we'd

720
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: get that at some point and lo and behold, well

721
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: they're now on the same team. Well what happened was

722
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: they made the trade for Stafford and everyone was thrilled,

723
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: like including Sean McVay, and Brocker said he was, I

724
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm parafrat. Was it a huge upgrade

725
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: or but then he gets he's part of the trade there,

726
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: so now he's his teammate. It's unfortunately it's happened, and

727
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: we'll get into the office, Smarl. But kings Jerry did

728
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: point out this team hasn't beaten Jarreic Goff in a

729
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, it was interesting. Then sometimes Kingsbury on

730
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: his own will bring things up and you're like, okay,

731
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: well that's opening the door up to something that why

732
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: would you open up that door? I e. James Connor.

733
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: Maybe we played him too many snaps. That was Cliff Kingsbury.

734
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. Yeah, but he admitted that he might have

735
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: played James Connor too much. And then he brings up

736
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he is three and oh didn't say three.

737
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, I had to go up and look. But

738
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Kingsbury is, oh and three, let me say that, oh

739
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: and three against Jared Goff. Well you just remember the bootlegs.

740
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean they were in their hating when they had

741
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley there, but the bootlegs and the waggle plays,

742
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: and he was very efficient against us. Now, again, he

743
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same coordinator, doesn't have the same talent.

744
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: But the fact that Jared Goff has the Cardinals number,

745
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: or at least he did. I think that will change

746
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It better change. On Sunday eleven am is

747
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: the kickoff six thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the

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00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. A reminder again, Bird Gang Paul

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00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Bow Voting underway now through Thursday, December sixteenth. NFL dot

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00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: Com Slash Pro Bowl Vote, NFL dot Com Slash Pro

751
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: Bowl Vote. The game is Sunday, February sixth in Las

752
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: Vegas at Alleged Stadium. By the way, a shoutout to

753
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and the Las Vegas Raiders because all of

754
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: a sudden, now the Super Bowl rotation. Nice emphasis on

755
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: the West Coast so five Stadium this year, State Farm

756
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: Stadium the following year, and then twenty twenty five Alleged Stadium,

757
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: like said, the Bermuda Triangle. But it's the West Coast

758
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: version exactly like that though, yeah, warm weather, don't have

759
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: to worry about snow or anything like that in the

760
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: first or second week of February. So yeah, you go

761
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Phoenix, Americopa County, and then Las Vegas. And

762
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: usually when you build a new stadium, you're gonna be

763
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: on the list. And but the Cardinals, the owners love

764
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: coming to Arizona stay. Some say at the Biltmore they

765
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: loved being out here. Owners meetings usually happen every two

766
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: years in March before free agency starts. So I'm sure

767
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: you know New Orleans wants to get back on the list.

768
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: They are, They are going to be in twenty twenty six.

769
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: They were scheduled to go in twenty twenty five, but

770
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: because of how the schedule is now with seventeen games

771
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: eighteen weeks, it's pushing into February, which I think in

772
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, which interfered with Mardi Gras, and right,

773
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl is big. But Marty grow for that area

774
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: is huge, and the NFL loves to go to New Orleans.

775
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: It's Bourbon Street. It's a party. I mean, you can

776
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: you can find yourself going out and every single night,

777
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, obviously going down to Bourbon Street. And I

778
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: gotta think Florida's gonna get another one now. Tampa just

779
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: had one. Miami's done a much. Their upgrades have been fascinating.

780
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville they had it. I was there. It wasn't good.

781
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: They brought in cruise ships because they have enough hotel rooms.

782
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they're claimed to fame. When there was Leonard

783
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Skinner was I think you should only go to one

784
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: state or one venue in a state. Now Florida has

785
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: to pick. You can't go twice. No, Florida, you have

786
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: to pick. Okay, but it's never going back to Jacksonville

787
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But Denver and Chicago want to host

788
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and we dealt with that with the

789
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: New York game. I mean, these these are these are

790
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: great franchises. I mean, they're historical franchises in the NFL,

791
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: the great fan bases with the Brown because you know,

792
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody else would like Indianapolis. Can they hold

793
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: host Yeah, they've hosted a big events, Final Fours, they've

794
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: hosted you know, um obviously you know when it comes,

795
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: but that would be cold weather. But everything's indoors there.

796
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: We've been there for the combine. You can just go

797
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: in these crosswalks and you don't have to go outside

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00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: at all. Um So, but I do think we're probably

799
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: gonna see a coal water city at some point, but

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen at least in the next

801
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: three years. Sorry, berg Gang got off a little tangent

802
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: there with respects to the Super Bowl rotation, but we

803
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: forget that after this season, twenty twenty one, the twenty

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00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty two seasons, so twenty twenty three, in February, State

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00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Farm Stadium hosts the Super Bowl. Well, I mean it's

806
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: literally right around the camp. Yeah, and usually the NBA

807
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: gets cute with their schedule because they know a lot

808
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: of you know, players will go to the games. You

809
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: got the waste management open leading up to that, and

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00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, the weather's a little bit cooler in February.

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00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: You usually get a little bit of rain around spring training.

812
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the Super Bowl host committee they

813
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: do a great job. And I'm telling you the owners

814
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: and you know they like come in Arizona just because

815
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: it's obviously it's not a big city so to speak.

816
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about you make dinner reservations,

817
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: you go out and have a good time. Everything's within

818
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: forty to fifty minutes. You're staying in Scottstale, you can

819
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: get to the stadium and that really benefits also the

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00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl, when you get these teams coming out here,

821
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: hopefully Arizona, the entire state on a nice five to

822
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: seven year rotation. I think that would be good for

823
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: everyone involved. Keep some cold weather climates cities happy. But

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00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: you're always going back to either Florida or the West coast.

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00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: Now with Vegas Sofi Stadium in Arizona. Yeah, and normally

826
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: when you build a new stadium, you eventually you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to play an overseas game. That's part of it too.

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Speaker 1: Host the Super Bowl. Yes, when you're tou the BI

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00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: you give up quote unquote one of those home games.

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: But now I think they're going to set it up

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00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: that when the year that or the season that you

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00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: have nine home games and eight road games, that that

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00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: ninth game you're playing overseas, whether that's in London, Mexico City,

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00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: or perhaps soon in Germany. Yeah, and that's the beauty

835
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: of that, where you still get your eight home games,

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00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: eight road games, and then obviously an international game. See

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Speaker 1: we can do this here. MJ on Cardinals covers you

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00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. We

839
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: can look ahead, we can look years ahead. The Arizona

840
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals players and coaches, they're looking at tomorrow, the next day,

841
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: and then Sunday against the Detroit Lions, where they should

842
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: clinch playoff spot. I'm sure. I'm confident now if they

843
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: don't win the turnover battle and they give up a

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00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: pick six or a special team's touchdown, then anything is

845
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: off the table. But I'm confident this team plays well

846
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: after losses. They know what's at stake, and I said

847
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: that last week and who's disappointing, But I'm not discouraged.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive more into the week fifteen matchup Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner

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