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Speaker 1: So first of all, thank you, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: we always wanted to be interviewed by you, and you

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Speaker 1: know you having a good game. That's now we are

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Speaker 2: And I hate to interrupt you, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: because Darius, Darius, you were the funniest interview that I

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Speaker 2: first person, first athlete, first pro athlete that says there,

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Speaker 2: yes ma'am. Boy even asked the question yes ma'am. In

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Speaker 2: the back of my mind, I'm like, okay, Darius, look

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Speaker 2: looking in the stands, you're looking every Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: But one of the most polite young men to come

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Speaker 2: that you did very impressive. I had to give you

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that because QB hay no, because I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: That you Q you were funny at Interviewing you was easy.

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Speaker 2: All I had to do so cute and then just

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Speaker 2: give it to you all show. Let me break it down.

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Speaker 2: We were getting killed on the board. Elton wasn't shot

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Speaker 2: wasn't falling Cory and Corey doeses he was not playing

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Speaker 2: any defense. I was like, okay, all right, well thank you,

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Speaker 2: and I had to grab the mic from you. But man,

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Speaker 2: I love watching you guys play and on and off

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Speaker 2: the court. You guys were just true gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank but thank you now for coming on

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Speaker 1: our show as an honor and a pleasure to have you.

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Speaker 1: When I heard you said yes, I was like ecstatic

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry it took so long. I'm kind of new

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Speaker 2: and there's a red dot and I scrolled down finally

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Speaker 2: figured it out. I'm like, oh my gosh, my boys. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I told him when you were plaid, I had hit

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Speaker 3: I was just I said, I'm just keep trying. We

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Speaker 3: hit them as I say, I say, I say, she replied,

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Speaker 3: I said, when I look back at the message, and

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Speaker 3: I said, I knew. I was super excited because I

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Speaker 3: didn't even compose. I said, I can't believe you replied,

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Speaker 2: Thought I would like the so this, this and this

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I was real, now I was.

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Speaker 3: I was excited. I hit the group.

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Speaker 4: They was all excited and.

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Speaker 2: It was funny because I kept here, we just want

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Speaker 2: to give you your flowers. We just want to give

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Speaker 2: you your flowers. And I'm like, well, you know what,

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Speaker 2: today I'm going to be accepting it. So thank you again.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor for me to be here on this show.

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Speaker 1: I know this is a tough question for you. Sure so,

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Speaker 1: But who was the first person to bust yours?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: The first person? Oh man, it was nineteen sixty for

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Speaker 2: the doctor when I was born. Oh hell, your question.

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Speaker 2: It was and woke me up when I came out

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Speaker 4: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 3: We live on location Los Angeles, California. We came out.

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Speaker 2: Here for a very very special reason.

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Speaker 3: We just survived the hurriquake and some most stuff, ain't

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Speaker 3: it black, But we listen, were blessed. We got the

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Speaker 2: Appreciated.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is special, y'all tapped in.

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Speaker 1: So who put the ball in your hand? Who made

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Speaker 2: Just sitting on the steps. I have two older brothers

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Speaker 1: How is it being in a family that's so competitive,

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Speaker 2: It was tough because everything was a competition. We couldn't

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Speaker 1: When did it turn where you was feeling like I'm

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Speaker 2: I never thought I was better. I'm being real honest

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking with Dad, what's up? He goes, because if

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Speaker 2: You can't have it both ways. So that was those

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Speaker 4: How did you decide to go to Riverside really side?

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Speaker 4: Probably you want the truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we lived in a neighborhood. I was supposed to

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, dad said we got to move on up.

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Speaker 2: Like the Jeffersons, we had to move.

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Speaker 1: What did you know about the school before you went

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Speaker 2: And so it was a natural transition. We had to

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Speaker 1: How was that for you?

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Speaker 2: Competitive? I just thought there was only a handful of

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Speaker 4: Did it feel like a downgrade?

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Speaker 2: It did when I was in seventh and eighth grade

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Speaker 2: I had kicked their rear ends the whole time. So

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Speaker 2: I said, come on, Larry, you got one chance, one chance,

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Speaker 1: You and Regie, you're apart. Did y'all play on each

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Speaker 2: We never played on the same team. Even in the family.

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Speaker 2: It was always the oldest soul junior and I can

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Speaker 2: Daryl and Reggie. Oh okay, so the winning team that

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Speaker 2: Bless his heart. No, we never we never, no, we

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Speaker 3: When you got the party, did you play varsity your

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Speaker 4: What did I do?

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Speaker 2: I just looked at you. You're so handsome. I just

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Speaker 4: The varsity as a freshman, and how was that for you?

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Speaker 3: The whole take that out everybody that didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: You look like idea what he was talking I have

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Speaker 2: no idea what he's talking about. No, it was just

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Speaker 2: you know, we had a great team, great high school

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Speaker 2: team for girls. To come together and us to play

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Speaker 2: at that level. It wasn't a matter of making the team.

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Speaker 2: It was a matter of what were our goals, and

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Speaker 2: it was to win our conference, you know, their school,

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Speaker 2: and then go on from whatever that was. And that

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Speaker 4: When did you find out she was nationally ranked? Like

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Speaker 3: The next school day, you had to go to school,

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Speaker 2: If I could, First of all, I was the first

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Speaker 4: Was I done?

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Speaker 2: That? You gave?

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Speaker 2: That was it. It was the first time in my

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Speaker 2: I said, all right, I'll say and that was it.

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Speaker 2: College was difficult, not from a physical but mental because

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Speaker 3: Y'all win it, like you know, what I'm saying, like, like,

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Speaker 3: For you to go to that school and then you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how was it get to the final four?

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Speaker 3: you doing anything, but like we all know, like the

438
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 3: final four is like that's a monumental step in the

439
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: process and one of the bigger deals played. Like how

440
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: was it to get there? You know, like you said,

441
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 3: y'all looking at Louisiana Tech the whole way. You get

442
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: to the final four and they on the other side,

443
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: and it's like, what we gonna do?

444
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: There was freshman five and then our upperclassmen and Coach

445
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: Sharp scheduled us to play on the road. And this

446
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: is early in the season when we still trying to

447
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: get our heads wrapped around. We're in college play at

448
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: Tennessee and then back to back games. Then we would

449
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: go to Louisiana Tech and play them at home. Louisiana

450
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: Tech's open up their new arena fifteen thousand, and it

451
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: is passed crazy. We hate you, Chryl. We got I

452
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys remember, you know, we had

453
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: to go to Georgia. Georgia the crowd had you remember

454
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: the movie Ghostbusters.

455
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 3: Correct.

456
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: They had a beautiful photo of me with that big circle,

457
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: red circle and right through my mouth holding it up.

458
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: I was like, d it was a good photo, but

459
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: it was stuff like that. And we went in there

460
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: and swept them, and that's never been done. But coach

461
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: Sharp said, I have to put you guys through the gauntlet. Yeah,

462
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: battle test.

463
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: We were a freshman five.

464
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: It was myself rounda Windham, Jamaya bond Man. You know what,

465
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: I can't believe I left her out. She wasn't a freshman,

466
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: but hands down the baddest baller on our team, Cynthia Cooper,

467
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: and she came off the bench. That's how solid, how

468
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: tight and how tough she came off the bitch. So

469
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: we were we were ready to go, and as soon

470
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: as we hit the final four, it was all about

471
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: the trophy. It was all about the rings.

472
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: Back to back, like them two intense seasons like going

473
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: on all the way to the finals, winning back to back?

474
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: How was that?

475
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: That was tough for us as a team and our bond.

476
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: It's easy. I shouldn't say it's easy. Well, I am

477
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: going to say it's easy to win that first that

478
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: first title because actually no one expected us to do,

479
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: you know, so the expectations are very low. But now

480
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: when you as a team, as a university, have that

481
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: pressure to repeat. Now everybody knows how you play, and

482
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: not only do they want to beat you, but they're

483
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: collaborating how to beat you. They sharing notes, it's reports

484
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: and stuff. So coach Sharp realized how difficult it was

485
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: going to be to repeat. Our biggest issue was not

486
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: to lose our humility and to lose our bond and

487
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: to start thinking that we were better, certain players are

488
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: better than then the other. Oh my gosh. And so

489
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: I was the most humble person on the team until

490
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: my ego jumped out of my chest and it was

491
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: couldn't tell me anything. I don't. Man, if I was

492
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: James Brown, I'd be wearing that that coming in practice,

493
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: having somebody take it off and then go warm up.

494
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: Ring my head? Is that big? Back in the day

495
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: we had they called it Jerry Koor Mama was a

496
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 2: wave Neuveau. You couldn't tell me nothing. That activator in

497
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: it was going down out?

498
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: How good did it feel when you wanted chip, when

499
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: you punted the ball in the air, like how.

500
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Okay? For real? For real?

501
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: Gods.

502
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Half the stuff that I did on the court, I

503
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: had no It wasn't like, okay, this happens, I'm gonna

504
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: do this. It was you know as soon as I

505
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: First of all, we could have lost the game. Our

506
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: point guard got picked from behind the ball, heads down,

507
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: the court. It's a layup. It's between Cynthia Cooper and

508
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: a tech player. Now you gotta understand, Cynthia Cooper and

509
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: defense ain't gonna happen. So I'm trailing the whole play

510
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: and I see Cooper and I'm like, man, we're gonna

511
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: go out like this because Cooper ain't gonna do nothing.

512
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: I know Cooper's gonna try to block her shot. Cooper

513
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: stood aground, took a charge, took a charge. I grab

514
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: her off the floor. I'm jumping around, and everybody's like, sure,

515
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: we still have a couple of seconds. I said, no,

516
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: Cooper took up. I'm gay, that's right right there. But

517
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: when that happened, yeah, you, but you couldn't tell us.

518
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: In the second year, to repeat was difficult because we

519
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: had to reel end now and I'm gonna be honest,

520
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: I let my eagle jump out of my You couldn't

521
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: tell me anything, Number one, You couldn't tell me anything.

522
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: Then I'm on the Grammys with Donna Summer with her

523
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: hit song she Works Hard for the Money. Yeah, okay,

524
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: So I'm on stage and Donna Summer's out there. You

525
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: know she's singing. I've already gone through rehearsal, so me

526
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: and d I'm calling her d I d.

527
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: Wave.

528
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's my girl, that's my girl. We

529
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: gonna be collaborating on a song after this. Feeling myself.

530
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: So so this is going.

531
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: I said, I got Donna summer. She sings, she works

532
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: hard out no money, right, So then my part comes on.

533
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: So you see two people like holding basketball rams. So

534
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: I come on stage doing my little thing, dribbling in

535
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: between my legs and all around my back and da

536
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: da dah, I go dunk on the thing. Grab wa,

537
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: go dunk on the thing. And now she's come and

538
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: she's singing the hype of the song and then I'm

539
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: holding the ball. So everybody's seen it. You couldn't talk

540
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: to me for about a month. And I met Michael Jackson.

541
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: Where you meet Michael Jackson at the Grammys at the

542
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 4: glove on I know? Is that the year he did

543
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: the one by can tell you meet Mike? You can't

544
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: you mean, Mike, you can't tell you nothing?

545
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: You meet Mike. Man. If I could have gone away

546
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: with wearing the glove on the court like Mike, I'd

547
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: have done it.

548
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: When did the culture shock hit that you don't have

549
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: your two leaders, no more like you win them two championships.

550
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: You get this so much success, and then the leaders

551
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: like it's a high. You don't got them two big

552
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: big girls down there. That is, that's taking care of

553
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: the paint.

554
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: A reality. It's no joke. That first game and you know,

555
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: I'm still again, I don't know, but all I know

556
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: it was close and we should have beaten them by

557
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: one hundred. There's not my bigs. There's not Paula you

558
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: know who in the trail hitting that jumper at that elbow,

559
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: el elbow, elbow, and Pam just beasting down low block

560
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: the block. There's none of that. So now I've got

561
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: up my game, elevate my game. The wonderful thing is

562
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 2: Cooper Cooper. Cooper's coming to her own. And one thing

563
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: about Cynthia Cooper, watching her playing against her in high

564
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: school a little bit in the summer, being her teammate,

565
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: and then she disappears once her collegiate season career is over.

566
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: Don't hear from her. She comes back from Italy, you

567
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: got to understand, and she played at Lock. She played

568
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: in the Getta. I'm talking about the two. And so

569
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: she comes back speaking fluid Italian. Her game is like,

570
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: it's not elevated, it's through the route, hands down, talking

571
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: about a transformation of a player. The best player in

572
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: the WNBA, there was no question and I'm looking at

573
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: teammate superstar incredible.

574
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: How was it to make it on the Olympic team

575
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: in eighty four?

576
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: The best way to kind of describe it freshman year,

577
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: National championships, sophomore year when my second at UCLA on

578
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: their core that was wonderful and we beat in the

579
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: finals playing against Tennessee and Pat Summit is the Olympic coach.

580
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: So things start kind of slowing down where I'm thinking, Okay,

581
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: this is Olympics. It's in my backyard in Los Angeles,

582
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: playing in the final game. Again. I don't know why

583
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: I did a half of the things that I did,

584
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: but I did. We're killing them, We're winning the game,

585
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: is you know? And there was a bet before the game. Sure,

586
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: I dare you. I think it was sitting the Cooper,

587
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: I dare you to do something. I'm like, dude, what

588
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: she goes? I want you to do a cart will

589
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: I said during the game, and I said, okay, I'll

590
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: do a car. You know, just no one. I wasn't

591
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna do it well anyways, got caught caught up, make

592
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: a great play. Games rolling out and I got fouled,

593
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: and I'm by Tennessee's bench and I do a cartwell

594
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: in front of the coach summon and she's just sitting there.

595
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: She's standing on the court and she's just looking at

596
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: me dead pen doesn't say anything. And then I didn't

597
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: think about it. I was just, you know, celebrating. So

598
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: now I got to play for this woman. And guys,

599
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: she did me. I'm talking about every time she got

600
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: the opportunity to break me down, this one woman would

601
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: do it. I mean do it. If she could have

602
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: got away with not starting me, she would have done it.

603
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: But the wonderful thing that happened when I say that,

604
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: she really gave it to me. I was having a

605
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: really bad game in Taiwan and I got low bridged,

606
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: fell on my back and the balls coming through the net.

607
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: So I just kicked it just out of frustration, No

608
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: big deal. Going at halftime, the whole team stopped playing. Well,

609
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: she has everybody stand up, lines us up, goes down

610
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: the line, handed it to everybody. She comes to me,

611
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: and I got a knot in my throat and she

612
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: passes me. I was like, oh, thank you, Lord, I

613
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: pray I will never do anything else. Heavenly Father. We go.

614
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: We say okay, da da da da Usa. We go

615
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: to walk out. She's wait a minute, I forgot one

616
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: special person, Cheryl Miller come here. I was like, man,

617
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: say yeah, yes, coach. She says, no, I want you

618
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: to come close because I want you to hear it.

619
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: And she's like this far like nose the nose. I

620
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: will win or lose a Golden medal without you. You

621
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 2: are not the best player on this team. Now. That's confident.

622
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Told you from the very beginning of this interview. I'm sensitive.

623
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: So you know what's the worst thing when you you

624
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: don't want to cry. You can't cry, not in front

625
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: of her. What's the worst thing a teammate can do

626
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: when you're that emotion, You're about to be that emotional.

627
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 4: That's it.

628
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: And then it starts flowing all sudden, your vision gets

629
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: blurry and stuff like that, and I'm trying to get

630
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: out and Pam is hitting me from behind. You don't

631
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: you give it to don't you give her to her?

632
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: And then Pam's like don't touch her. Pam's hitting me.

633
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: So halftime comes, I'm going to start the second half,

634
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: go on the court. She goes, Camire Miller, what now.

635
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: She goes, where do you think you're going? Like, coach,

636
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm going in the game. She said, no, you're not.

637
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: She'll sit down, and the players are like, they looked

638
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: at me, they looked at her, and they looked down.

639
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I'm like, this is

640
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: the walk of shame, guys, It's the walk of shame.

641
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: Walk down there. Eventually she puts me back in. Now

642
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 2: there's a beef. I can't look at her. She won't

643
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: look at me. Then we have to do individual meetings,

644
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: you know kumbaya. Coach wants to tell you what you

645
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: are and what you are, and I'm just thinking, Lord,

646
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: please don't look. I'll hit her. If she says anything

647
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: and she hits in my face, I'm going to hit her. Lord,

648
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: And there goes my gold medal. There go mom and

649
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Dad's gonna have to come up here. There's gonna be

650
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: a bad scene. So I ended up calling my mom

651
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: and telling her before the whole meeting. She goes, don't

652
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: worry about it. We just gonna pray. Let's pray, and said, okay.

653
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: She prayed, and I said, all right.

654
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: She goes.

655
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: But Pearl, Mama, pearl, don't you dare hit that woman?

656
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: I said, I won't. She goes, but tell her one thing,

657
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: tell her she can't win a gold medal without you.

658
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: Sure enough, Pat came in. She goes. You want to

659
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: know why? I said, what you did? I said, I

660
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: don't know, coach. Why she goes because you don't play

661
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: the game the right way. Okay, so you're talking about defensively?

662
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: She goes, No, offensively? Do I share the ball? She's

663
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: no great passer. I said, then what don't? How do

664
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: I not play the game right? She goes, what's with

665
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: all the antics? And you know I haven't forgotten the

666
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: car will now see? I said, I'm sorry about that.

667
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: She's like, no, But why do you have to celebrate?

668
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: You celebrate on you know, on a lape, you celebrate

669
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: when you hit a shot. Why, I said, because that's

670
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: how I play. I love the game. I'm not showboating.

671
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm not a hot dog like you like to call me.

672
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: I just love the game. I know you're strict. Can

673
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: we just find a common ground? Common grounds that gold

674
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: medal and she goes, yes, it is, I said, coach,

675
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: just so you know, you can't win a gold medal

676
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: without me. She turns around, she goes, yeah, I know,

677
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: and she walks out. And from that we were cool.

678
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: We were cool, but it was it was the greatest

679
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 2: moment to win a gold not only just a gold medal,

680
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: but to have my parents in the stands and to

681
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: put that gold medal around my mom and then my

682
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: dad didn't just acknowledge everything that they did for me

683
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: growing up.

684
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: Or passed summer. That's a nice story.

685
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: I like that.

686
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: When you started winning Player of the Year award, Nate

687
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: Smith's three Natesmiths or like that's crazy, Like expectations for

688
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: you is so high and you win in so much awards,

689
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: Like did you ever think about, like what I'm gonna

690
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: do after this, if I'm gonna go overseas?

691
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: M Yeah, well you said it from the very beginning.

692
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: There was no WNBA. Yeah, it was the go over seas.

693
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: That was the plan. I graduated and my fallback was

694
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: always going to be somehow broadcasting in what degree, no idea,

695
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: But it was a random pickup game. Never forget it.

696
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: And one of the gyms on campus, playing against football

697
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: players at USC off season. My season is done, my

698
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: senior year, everything's done. And the guy falls in front

699
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: of me and jump over him and pop. That was

700
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: my knee ACL meniscus, partial tear of the lateral.

701
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeahdat to get you right.

702
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: It was a wrap. But in my head, I'm thinking

703
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: I can do this until the doctor came in, doctor

704
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Richard Dill, and he goes, well, you had a great run,

705
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: and I guess it's time for you to have kids.

706
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's over. You're talking about life and reality

707
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: in that moment. Yeah, swirling in my head. I'm thirteen,

708
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm in high school. I've won this. I've won four

709
00:38:53,640 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: championships in high school, two gold medal, over over devastation,

710
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: and I didn't know what I was going through then,

711
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: but I know talking about a deep depression because May

712
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: didn't it. I'm Cheryl Miller. Now, Who am I?

713
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: Now?

714
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: Where do I go? And that was the best and

715
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: biggest challenge of my life.

716
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: A lot of us hit that one right when you

717
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: first heard it was going to be a WNBA. How

718
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: did you feel you feel about it was about time?

719
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: It was obviously it was about time, but it was

720
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: the perfect time. You've got you down Staley, Lisa Leslie,

721
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: Cheryl Swoops, and Rebecca Lobo, Tara Van Derveer their head coach,

722
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, Atlanta, they put on the show. Yeah.

723
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: And the wonderful thing is, outside of their gold medal

724
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: success sprung two professional women's leagues. And I was like, Okay,

725
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: that's cool. That was real cool. But was so happy.

726
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: I love David Stern, but what he did those first

727
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: three years of the WNBA did such a great, a

728
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: great job of making sure that you guys, the men

729
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: and their organizations supported us not only just coming to

730
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: watch the games, but financially because not every team could

731
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: pull their weight. But we called you know, we called

732
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: you guys are big brothers. You know when you guys

733
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: coming to the game. Gave us instant credibility and more credibility.

734
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: And it was wonderful to see women's basketball just explode

735
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: by just the WNBA stepping on the floor and the women,

736
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, the young ladies who are watching now could

737
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: see our talent. And it wasn't just the Final four

738
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: or the sweet sixteen. You know where it's very the

739
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: NCA and is very limited. Now this was their sports team,

740
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: this was their their league.

741
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, to see how it evolved.

742
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Now, to see the women evolved, like the way they

743
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: dunking the first dunk in the game.

744
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: There's my dunk, and there's Britney Grinder's done. Come on, y'all.

745
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: When I saw her drive baseline at Baylor and then

746
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: dunk on somebody and are talking like the one handed

747
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: like you know, if you if you six twelve, you

748
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: better be dunking you really, you know, but two handed

749
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: and then dude, like you know y'all had.

750
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: I was like, that was how we felt when we

751
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 3: saw Remember we saw Sylvia files when she came to

752
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: this guy like she like when she came to this guy,

753
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: they worked out at the same gym and hoops where

754
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: we were at. Kind of toward the end of that

755
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: he too when I like we coming in, I'm like, yo,

756
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: like they was like, yeah, they got they got the

757
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: girl for mom lsu to be.

758
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: She she'd be dumb, like we should be dunk on

759
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, like now we're.

760
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: Coming out the way on one day she did like

761
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: a little screen they hit it with a bounce past

762
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: she boom.

763
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: I went back here, I said, Yo, they I told her.

764
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 4: She I said, no, you didn't see she's dunking for real.

765
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like she was like the first one.

766
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: I was like, god damn.

767
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: Then like you say, Brittany like it's.

768
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sylvia was nasty. Yeah, she was nasty. And you

769
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: could throw that ball down the floor and you go

770
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: get it and then finish it like that. Yeah.

771
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Now you're seeing six eight, six' nine dribbling the, ball shooting,

772
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: threes running the floor, differitely like the women's game has evolved.

773
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: Too what do you think about? That it's the natural

774
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: inside out instead of outside.

775
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: In it's the natural. Progression it's the same thing with you,

776
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: know with your league, NOW i mean before back in

777
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: the day when you, know Watching reggie and everybody else

778
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: And DOCTOR j and you know you Had Bill lambert

779
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: who could lay you out and wasn't a foul unless

780
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: you were bleeding and teeth. Missing they weren't calling, anything

781
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: and you talking About, look it's no disrespect To, steph, great,

782
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: great great point, guard one of the best you Can

783
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: he's definitely in the argument along With Magic. Johnson But

784
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: steph didn't have to put up with the constant. THIS

785
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: i mean you, know, no we ain't talking about Grad

786
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: we're talking about whole. Ding and it was like it

787
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: was like a five second. Hole it was past five.

788
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Seconds then it was a fair, right but now you

789
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: had to lay you, know lay. Off but it was

790
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: a natural progression to see from WHEN i played to

791
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: the next level To Cheryl Swoopson college when she was

792
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: In texas and then you, know you look At ukon

793
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: and you got To, rosie you, know and now now

794
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: it's like it's, elevated and then a lot of the

795
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: Amayah moore shoot and, uh she's gonna Kick oh my

796
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Favorite Candace. Parker she had the whole, package the.

797
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: Whole, package the whole, package like six eight.

798
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: Six, eight and what was DISARMING i should say about?

799
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Her beautiful woman but nasty.

800
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: On that, Son.

801
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: Oh my.

802
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: Gosh, yeah you know What i'm.

803
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: LIKE i mean it was jackal and fie. BOY i,

804
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: mean she get off the court and you're, like, oh

805
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: just she's so, friendly but honor.

806
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 4: Killer what do you think about?

807
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: That BECAUSE i love the women aggression and women's, sports

808
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: but you, know the outside world feels like well some

809
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: in our Soware i'm not saying all, that so WERE

810
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: i feel like they don't want women to be to

811
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: show that emotion or show that aggression like.

812
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 4: That what do you feel about?

813
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: That go watch, golf then change the. CHANNEL i, mean

814
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: because we're not changing if, Anything if you can't stand,

815
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: us come, on, guys if you can't stand us showing

816
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: emotion killer? Mentality, right what about the younger? Kids you,

817
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: know the coach. Kids, now they got the. EYELASHES i

818
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: don't know how they can, see but they. Are they

819
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: step on the court and the lids are like this

820
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: on how they, shoot but they get.

821
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: It they stopped the.

822
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 2: Lip stuck in the make and and if they drop

823
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: an eye, brown, hey time out and they score about

824
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: ninety on you Apologetic AND i love it. NOW i

825
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: think it's great for women's.

826
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Basketball the momentum you, get like last year's, finals and

827
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: like when we've Seen Stuart asia go at it in

828
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: The Western conference finals and how the finals was was

829
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: so live seeing the WOMEN'S ncaa, finals seeing just how

830
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: women's basketball is kind of taking a new. Phenomena how

831
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: proud of, yeah how proud of you of the women's

832
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: game and your name being a part of this women

833
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: games of growing it to be where it's at right,

834
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: now And.

835
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said something a part of, it because

836
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: that's ALL i want to be is a part of.

837
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: IT i don't need to be up in the conversation

838
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: who was the greatest or anything. Else if, anything if

839
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: anybody ever says about me THAT i would like embrace

840
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: and she paid it for. It if you give me

841
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: that do THEN i paid it. Forward and, Hey, CHERYL i.

842
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Remember AND i think the younger players are doing a better.

843
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: Job But i'm saying women in, general AND i don't

844
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: care if they get mad at. Me, ladies if you

845
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: want everybody to respect in women's, basketball then support one.

846
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: Another that commercial was blocked you, by but, no but for,

847
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: real that's and that's the one THING i need us

848
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: to embrace IS i want the younger players to understand

849
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: that there was people before. Them there were athletes before.

850
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: There you, know there are people THAT i played against

851
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: that long beat. State nobody knows Of Latanya pollard shot

852
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: Like Steph. Curry there's a lot of women out, There.

853
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: Chris, right there's always somebody before. You Like that's why

854
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: we try to show pay the proper homage and pay

855
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: respect to just what we grew up, on you, know

856
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: in the history of you the love of this. Game

857
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: that's why we kind of created this. Too we love

858
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: women's all like we like. Ages we really rock. With

859
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: my mama played basketball one state championship With Dorothy. Gators,

860
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: yeah she put the ball in my. Hand so we

861
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: got much love and respect for the women's games basketball in.

862
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: General we love Who so see that's WHAT i and

863
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: you guys have always been there and that's WHAT i

864
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: love about. It and there's such a camaraderie and you

865
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: guys have taught us how to, celebrate you, know and

866
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: your hall of fame is The hall Of, fame and

867
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: we have a Women's hall Of, fame and not to

868
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: discount that. Whatsoever, man we need to take this to. There,

869
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: yeah that's what we need to. Do and then WHEN

870
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: i talk about, this we need to keep. Talking like you.

871
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: GUYS i, MEAN i can still remember doing commercial you

872
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: know for, whatever reading and stuff and going To philadelphia

873
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: and playing With DOCTOR. J they like memories like. That

874
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: SO i remember WHEN i remember when.

875
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: How did you get into The like you, said you

876
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: had always had a plan in going to? Broadcast how

877
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: did the going into? Turning BECAUSE i look at it,

878
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: like when you really think about, it you was like

879
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: one of the first former athletes to kind of like

880
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: put that lane into, place especially like At Turner, sports

881
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: like being sideline because one of my biggest moments in

882
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: my career WHEN i wanted three point shoot out In

883
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: denver IN.

884
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: O five YOU i got.

885
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: THAT i got that show that picture me up there

886
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: And i'll never forget. That so how did you get

887
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: into the hole going Into.

888
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: Turner, well WHEN i first started our broadcasting they thousand years,

889
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: ago they had me doing sidelines for college football AND

890
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: i love, football loved watching. IT i love the. SPORT

891
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: i don't know anything about the, sport BUT i loved the.

892
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: Sport so that didn't work out too.

893
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 4: Well AND i was.

894
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: HORRIBLE i was horrible and having, to you, know learn

895
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: the whole, business and you, know just it was so.

896
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: Much and then you have people in your, ear your

897
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: producers in your, ear and you wear an earpiece and

898
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: you're trying to have a conversation and they're, like, well

899
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: sherl are at and this is my first, Time Well

900
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 2: cheryl ask them? This what do you want me to ask?

901
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 2: Them ON? Tv My mom's, like who are you talking?

902
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: TO i, Said, mom you don't want to, know but

903
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: things like. That BUT i was Coaching Lisa leslie And

904
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: Tina thompson AT usc And Turner, call and it was

905
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: my third YEAR i had coaching BROADCASTING NBA. Sc that

906
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: was a decision for, me BUT i loved it and

907
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: the wonderful thing AND i think my a career in,

908
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: broadcasting especially. SIDELINE i was very fortunate that a lot

909
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: of the older players had seen me Play Karl, Malone's, Stockton's,

910
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: jordan's so it was nothing for them to come up

911
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: to me after a. Game, normally you gotta you, know

912
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: grab you, know you gotta grab, them hold, them or

913
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: you have to go to someone else you know they're pr.

914
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: Person it was just it can be a. Nightmare but

915
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: it was like and they paid me homage and they

916
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: listened and they it was.

917
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: The respect of say that like like your peers like

918
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: because it got to a point where you like you

919
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: say they respect. You but everybody in the n B,

920
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: a all us had a still HAS i ain't gonna

921
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: say had a but still has much.

922
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: Like high respect for, you you know What i'm.

923
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: Saying always wanted to do an interview by, you like

924
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: to hear that from the generations before and after to

925
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: always want.

926
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 4: That what does that mean to? You i've been.

927
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: BLESSED i feel that there has always been a design

928
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: all my life and a hand on my. Life and

929
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: my life worked out great WHEN i just listened to

930
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: that divine. Voice but the blessing comes WHEN i can

931
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: sit down with you two and hear, that because it

932
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: means the world to, me and you guys have taught.

933
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Me the one thing that it meant the most to

934
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: me is that you guys trusted me and THAT i

935
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: would never throw. SHADE i would NEVER i learned my

936
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: lesson a hard way because in the, business you had

937
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: to get that one scoop you had to be, that you,

938
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: know that's that one. Question AND i, remember AND i

939
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: was in studio ON NBA tv probably maybe my tenth

940
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: year was. Around it was the same. Time, well it

941
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: was the incident When latrelle's free well GRABBED. Pj sosten

942
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: went to choke him. Out, WELL i got inside information

943
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: and nobody could Find. Latrelle he was in he wasn't,

944
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: speaking wasn't saying. Anything, WELL i knew who his agent

945
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: was through my Brother. Reggie they shared the same agent

946
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: and the PERSON i would go to who was underneath

947
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: the attorney Arn tellum Was Gail, dusteno AND i, Asked,

948
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: hey what's going? On can you give me this and?

949
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: This and he she, said, well you, know are you

950
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: going to release? ANYTHING i got the inside, scooped so

951
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: she kind of gives me a general idea of what's

952
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: going to be. Said SO i run with. IT i

953
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: run with, it don't, ask don't do. Anything ran with. It,

954
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: WELL i had Arn tellum call me on myself and tell.

955
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: Me just asked, me where did you get this? FROM i,

956
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: SAID i just got a? Scoop where did you get it?

957
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: From he, Goes, JOEL i won't be. MAD i won't be.

958
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: MAD i, said, okay Well gail gave it to, me

959
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: and he, goes, WELL i just want you to Know

960
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: i'm going to go on air right. Now i'm going

961
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: to call you a liar that you don't know what

962
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: you're talking, about and how disgraceful you are as a

963
00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: broadcaster and. Whatnot he, Did he, did AND i learned

964
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: a valuable lesson that. Night And latrell wouldn't speak to,

965
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: me he wouldn't even look at. Me and it wasn't

966
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: until maybe seven years after the whole incident that he

967
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: finally spoke to me AND i had to. APOLOGIZE i

968
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: just couldn't function without telling him how SORRY i. Was

969
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: and once that was. That once that was old REASON

970
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: i was. Cool i'm good WITH i know, YOU i, Said,

971
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: no you weren't at the times of, NO i hated,

972
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: you so that we're cool with. That but, again ANYTIME

973
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: i knew something was coming on the, bethside coming down

974
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: on one of you, GUYS i pull you aside AND i, go,

975
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: look they have, this, this this on on. You do

976
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: you want to get ahead of it or?

977
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 4: Not, Yeah i'm.

978
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: SURE i don't know what to. Say, well, okay you

979
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: tell me what. Happened and they would tell, me, okay

980
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: clean it up here and cleaned up, here AND i,

981
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: said don't start, rambling because you don't sound like a guilty.

982
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 4: To the. Script that, door no, stuttering that, no you start.

983
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 4: Stuttering speaking Of, reggie.

984
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: How proud and amazed of his career and him and

985
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: how he carried itself over the, years and how he

986
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: was just a first.

987
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: PLAYER i don't want to say That reggie grew up

988
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: with a chip on his, shoulder BUT i can understand

989
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: why he did him no. Slack and it wasn't just,

990
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: me my two older, brothers But, reggie you're talking about

991
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: putting in the. Time there's no such thing as someone

992
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: with a perfect form and all. That you know how

993
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: much time you're putting into that. Shot if you got

994
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: a whack shot and you you work, shot it's going

995
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: in and you're putting in that. Work so many coaches

996
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: When reggie was coming wanted to change his shot because

997
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: when he shot the ball it would flick. Out but

998
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: that's his work ethic and the fact that he wasn't.

999
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 2: Afraid that's where we were different from the very. Beginning

1000
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: reggie wasn't afraid to take the last shot.

1001
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 4: For.

1002
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: Sure reggie WAS i don't, care AND i WAS i

1003
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: wish upon a time it goes in one of THOSE i,

1004
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: WISH i don't, care and that suited him throughout his

1005
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: life and his. Career give me the, Ball i'll be

1006
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: the hero or the. GOAT i could live with. Both

1007
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: and most killer shooters were like, that they don't. Care

1008
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: he craved the big. Moment he would make a small

1009
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: moment a big, moment and for me to watch him

1010
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: do incredible things the game against the, next are you kidding?

1011
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: Me what was it was at nine points in seven

1012
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: and and that and to see your your baby brother

1013
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: and killed him who is not only in killer but beasts.

1014
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: Smoked but now that, Moment reggie was a great, player

1015
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: considered a great player or a good a good. Player

1016
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: he was a good. Player he went from a semi

1017
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: good to a. Superstar Now reggie's a. Superstar and that

1018
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: it was like that and watching that and knowing that

1019
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: that's that's my baby. Boy that's WHO i protected my

1020
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: whole life growing. Up and to see him be that,

1021
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: great great player and athlete and to know his heart

1022
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: and be a great, man to have that and he's

1023
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: my brother talking about, problem trying not to. Cry that's my.

1024
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: Boy how you feel like he do on the, sidelines

1025
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: but now he's on the there's one there is one

1026
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: beef THAT i have With.

1027
00:56:53,800 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: Reggie he's not. FUNNY i don't know why everybody laughs

1028
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: at his. Jokes you, know. FUNNY i stop eating At

1029
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: wendy's because you're not. Funny the, Commercial i'm just.

1030
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 4: But.

1031
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: That BUT i, mean you guys know the. Game but

1032
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: it's one thing to know the, game knowledgeable in this

1033
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: and have but now you got to put it. Here

1034
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: this you guys know it's not. Easy and the HOMEWORK i,

1035
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: see you guys got a volume over, here and it's

1036
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: a preparation and the homework that you have to. Do

1037
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: and he has just become one of the best analysts

1038
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: out there where WHEN i hear, him he's dropping.

1039
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: Knowledge that's the one thing he's.

1040
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: Dropping and it's easy to pick up the other. Guy,

1041
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: like in my, Opinion Hube brown's the best because you'll be,

1042
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: okay hold, on wait a, minute let me just tell you,

1043
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: now let me just tell you what's? Happened you know?

1044
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: That and he Could richie, okay wait, minute hold, up

1045
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: wait a. Minute are you kidding? Me are you kidding?

1046
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: Me Michael, jordans. Unbelievable tell me.

1047
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: This you went into The Women's Sports hall Of fame

1048
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: in ninety, one talk about going in ninety five into

1049
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: The Natesmith hall Of? Fame like what was?

1050
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: That, like could you ever fathom something like? That we

1051
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: just went this?

1052
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: Path what was?

1053
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: That whenever the last one was for D wade and

1054
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: like that was like that was?

1055
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: Crazy like we just LIKE i, said we never went

1056
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: there for. Nothing that was just went like to be

1057
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: there at the experience that was like and this wasn't

1058
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: even for, us like this was, crazy like so, like

1059
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: how was that for you to go through and experience

1060
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: that type Of LIKE i feel like like with D wade,

1061
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: said y'all walked into basketball heaven like while you, Alive and.

1062
00:58:53,320 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: That's, Correct that's exactly HOW i felt in going in my.

1063
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: Class And donovan who passed, away played against that from

1064
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: old dominion And i've Got Cappy. Kareem i'm sitting next To,

1065
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: KOREEM i Mean koreem and just talking to him and

1066
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: talking to, coaches former great, coaches former great, players and

1067
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: having sit down With Bill. Russell it truly. Is and you,

1068
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: know bleuss my my dad's there and he's got that

1069
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: Little kodak you, know the ones that we moved up

1070
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: because back in the day it used to be them

1071
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: polar it's hold on, no, yeah the jump putting. Up

1072
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: but again it WAS i was able to share it

1073
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: with my, family with mom and, dad and that was

1074
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: it was more fun for for. THEM i couldn't BELIEVE

1075
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: i was in, it to be.

1076
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: Honest let me ask you about the seventy sixteen we

1077
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: just went to The hall of fame and, yeah the

1078
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: seventy Six olympic, team and you spoke on it, earlier

1079
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: but just tell us how that just like changed the

1080
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: game for women because a lot of, women not only

1081
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: you got the opportunity to see this ON tv or

1082
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: get a glimpse of.

1083
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: This so just tell us about.

1084
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: THIS i was really happy Because annie And myers is

1085
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: a really good friend of, mine as well As Nancy,

1086
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: lieberman your. Coach yeah, yeah, Now, nancy you talking about,

1087
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Personality come on, Now, no but to have those two

1088
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: and to know them and know what they went through

1089
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: throughout their careers on and off the, court breaking into you,

1090
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: know you were talking about. Broadcasting Ann myers was the

1091
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: first to be an analyst to call a game in THE.

1092
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: Nba she was on that before any woman was doing

1093
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: so she, really you, know set the bar in the.

1094
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: Standard And, NANCY i tell you she if she's not a,

1095
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: billionaire because nobody knows how to like, seriously it's not

1096
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: a bad. Thing it's a Great she knows her, strength

1097
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: how to market. Herself she's got a great feel for

1098
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: and respect men for men and. Women.

1099
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so but the.

1100
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: Seventy sixteen they were the beacon for women's basketball and

1101
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 2: always will.

1102
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: Be and it was long over todo, yeah because like

1103
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: now they're getting just in The hall Of fame now

1104
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: AND i didn't know about it WHEN i got, there

1105
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: and then how they broke it, down the whole, presentation

1106
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: it was all it was.

1107
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 4: DOPE i was, like oh that's.

1108
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: Play, yeah it's. Crazy yeah it.

1109
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: Was it was a Good LIKE i, said that was

1110
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: amazing to be a part of and to be down

1111
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: there and experience all of.

1112
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 4: That start bench, trade you got to start. One you

1113
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 4: got a bench, one you got trade.

1114
01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: One, Okay.

1115
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 4: Cheryl, Soops Maya, Moore, stewie are they at the?

1116
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Prime?

1117
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 4: Prime?

1118
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: Everybody Start Maya cheryl off the? BENCH i would Trade.

1119
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 3: Stewie how excited were you just as a you, know

1120
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: you got on The equality And Women's sports shirt and

1121
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: you wrapped in, That like how proud are you to

1122
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 3: see just like the Women's final four and how it

1123
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: was great, basketball great show people, watching you, know like

1124
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 3: you had l s u and Andeer reese And, flage

1125
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: you Had caitlin on a, run you Got paige coming

1126
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: back this. Year it's, like, Yeah South carolina doing what

1127
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 3: they Doing Coach staley and like how excited are?

1128
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: You and you can't Forget Kim, molk who's MY i

1129
01:02:54,200 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: call Her. Liberaci she's A elvis and. Liverool you don't,

1130
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: care BUT i love that about. Her but it was

1131
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: it was great for me to be there because of

1132
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: the shirt That i'm wearing right, now equality in women's,

1133
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: sports and the back says we deserve to be. Here

1134
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: and this was all from a good friend of mine

1135
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: who's coaching currently AT Rcc Riverside Community college and she's

1136
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: she's suing the school and she's in the battle of

1137
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: her life from being, threatened run off the, road having

1138
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: her budget cut just, recently having the protest game where

1139
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: these shirts were, originated began with the men's basketball team

1140
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: blocking the entrances so, people the spectators couldn't come. In

1141
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: an ad who's no longer, there everybody with their you, know,

1142
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: ostriches with their heads in the sand and no help

1143
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: on the. Way so this is in my. Backyard i'm

1144
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: taking on her fight and it's a movement now and

1145
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: it's really kind of propelled me into this new adventure

1146
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: That i'm. With it's Called Breaking barriers For All, foundation

1147
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: and it's about. Equality it's about addressing you, guys see

1148
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: the social climate that we're in, today and empowering men and,

1149
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: women not just, athletes but using and teaching, them, educating

1150
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: empowering them to use their voice and their. Platform come, on,

1151
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: now we're just you, know a couple you, know fingers

1152
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: away from really being you, know an advocate for whatever

1153
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: justice that you want to to. Do and that's why

1154
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: breaking barriers and our foundation once we get it up and,

1155
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: running that's what we're going to. Do and we're starting

1156
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: at hopefully from the, ground like we're talking high school

1157
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: and maybe junior, high but letting these kids understand that

1158
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: they do have power and it's in their.

1159
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: Voice they ask you About Tina thompson And Lisa, leslie

1160
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: you coach them to see Their hall Of fame Careers, yep,

1161
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: unfold just to how proud to just see where they

1162
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: came from in usc to where they at.

1163
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: Now, WELL i was very fortunate to have the opportunity

1164
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: to coach those. Two lisa was the Baddest mina's big

1165
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: girl That i've ever, seen and she had she, advertised

1166
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: have elbows and will use and she knew how to

1167
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: clear a. Space Tina thompson hands down the smartest PLAYER

1168
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: i ever coached in my. LIFE i mean talking LIKE

1169
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: i know the, GAME i know the ADJUSTMENTS i need to.

1170
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: Make she's coming, out. Coach they're killing us. Here, here,

1171
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: Here let's kind of turn this, around like this is gonna.

1172
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: Work it's gonna, work you know that type of, thing

1173
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: like student of the. Game so to see them and

1174
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: the hard work they put in in their families and

1175
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: the dedication to the sport on and off the, court

1176
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: and to be, rewarded you, know for The hall Of

1177
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: fame was. Tremendous so proud of.

1178
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: Them the number thirty one you, Wore reggie would is

1179
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: it special or is it just it was just it

1180
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: just happened to be a.

1181
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 4: Number, no it.

1182
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: Was it's special because my Brother darryl was a catcher

1183
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: for The angels and so he wore thirty.

1184
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: One so that was you, know ran on, down.

1185
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: Got to pass it. Down thirty, one thirty, one thirty.

1186
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: One and the fact THAT i was born on the

1187
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: third Of january three and, one.

1188
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: Sir one more, question who is the? Goat who is

1189
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 4: the goat in men's?

1190
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: Basketball who would YOU i want your opinion of who

1191
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: you would say is.

1192
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: The best greatest of all.

1193
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 4: Time, yeah you've seen a lot of, basketball so you

1194
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: know a.

1195
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: Lot so the greatest of all? Time front row seat,

1196
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: killer incredible work, Ethic my mind can elevate everyone around,

1197
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: them can destroy whatever scheme, defensive you, know sets that

1198
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: you may. HAVE i would go With Quea.

1199
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: Michael jordan's you Think, mike at all the basketball you've

1200
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: seen up to this, point you Think Mike.

1201
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Kobe kobe was the. Closest But mike, said that's the

1202
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: part you, said Who kobe was the. CLOSEST i know

1203
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: you guys remember this because it Was it was on

1204
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: television and Watching tobe his rookie year and he's, playing

1205
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: and it's In chicago And michael has just done. SOMETHING

1206
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: i just something. Sick he's always doing something. Sick and

1207
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: him And kobe are at the free throw line And

1208
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: kobe's looking like talking like and you, know there's there's talking,

1209
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: talk but there's, like, hey what are you doing? This and?

1210
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: This AND i remember Asking, KOBE i, Said, kobe what

1211
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: are you talking To michael? About he, SAYS i asked

1212
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: him HOW i could stop, him HOW i could beat?

1213
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: HIM i, go what Did mike? Say he, said he,

1214
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: said you could never work that. Hard you could never

1215
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: worked that. Hard and he, said as soon as he

1216
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: said that to, ME i locked myself in the gym

1217
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 2: WHENEVER i could get on the, court AND i, studied he,

1218
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 2: SAID i studied every move That. Mike and you watched

1219
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: them from his first and second or third, year did

1220
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: you not think it Was mike everything into, Fade, yeah,

1221
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: yeah in the middle aund and that side stepping, Back

1222
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: oh my, gosh he would it Was, Mike But jordan

1223
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: Was he was something.

1224
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: Else did you ever Think kareem record will be broke?

1225
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: NEVER i don't think it was gonna be broke. Never

1226
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna Break lebron? Record he did? Again points right.

1227
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: Now, Okay i'm gonna ask you a question for, real for.

1228
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 2: Real what did you think when he when he broke the?

1229
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: Record first of, All i'm so glad That kareem was

1230
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 2: there and that shows his. Class were you surprised the

1231
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 2: flat That lebron Got it wasn't like everybody just because

1232
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: of the way the.

1233
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 3: Climate you can't you can't just have success and it

1234
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 3: just be. Cool somebody gonna say, something it's just he.

1235
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 2: SHOULDN'T i get somebody's gonna say. Something but to the

1236
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: point where how could he break that? Record how could

1237
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: he well wait around for somebody. Else somebody was gonna do,

1238
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: it somebody's gonna do, it but for him to do it.

1239
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: As first guy who's never been known at any point

1240
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: is like a score or was coming.

1241
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: In that's what everybody used to kill him.

1242
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: For he.

1243
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: Does, yes you know, what it was impressible about the

1244
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: longevity because to even get attempt at this, record you

1245
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: gotta play.

1246
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 4: Twenty it's probably like game.

1247
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: Like.

1248
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 3: Before you don't, Know like he didn't set a new.

1249
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 3: President it's about to be people to come and all the.

1250
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: Technology it's gonna be. Somebody they're just running off twenty like.

1251
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: That you know.

1252
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: What i'm glad you. Said that's a great plan at

1253
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: a high level of.

1254
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 4: Twenty, yeah but you know, what.

1255
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: It's a lot. Now technology is way. Different the way

1256
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: that keep under football or forty. Different understand how to

1257
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: take care of your body and the supplements and all

1258
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: these the rest and game management and everything. Else think

1259
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: about What kareem would have done if they had game

1260
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: management when he was.

1261
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 3: Young coming in twenty five a game first, year twenty.

1262
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: Four Eighteen All, stars Nineteen all stars, agree.

1263
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people just walking around doing.

1264
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: You know, What now you're going to get me in

1265
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: trouble because Now i'm will have to read think this

1266
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: whole thing With jordan Because lebron, You lebron's up there.

1267
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 4: Too lebron is definitely up. There he's definitely up.

1268
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 3: There you on That Mount rushmore for.

1269
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, yeah this has been.

1270
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: Amazing we appreciate you so.

1271
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 3: Much we are. Honored we had the, great the, great

1272
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: the Great Cheryl. Miller reggie told me that we had the.

1273
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: Eighteen today you Got Cheryl dean that's got the. Eighteen so.

1274
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: Thank.

1275
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: You.

1276
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 4: RAD i want to thank you.

1277
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,200
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1278
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,400
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1279
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,439
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1280
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1281
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1283
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:10,120
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1284
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