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Speaker 2: Welcome in. Got some topics today about coaches and quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and I want to start. John Middelkoff will joined us

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Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes. I want to start with the

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Speaker 2: Broncos and Russell Wilson and Sean Payton's thirty five thirty

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Speaker 2: three loss to the Commanders. They had Hail Mary at

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Speaker 2: the end and had they converted the two point conversion,

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Speaker 2: we would have gone to overtime. But I had said

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Speaker 2: this before. I didn't think Russell played particularly well. Eighteen

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Speaker 2: of thirty two, three hundred yards, had a really really

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Speaker 2: bad pick. He does not have the juice he had previously.

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Speaker 2: And I thought there were large portions of the game

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Speaker 2: that Sam Howell was much more mobile, much more of

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Speaker 2: a playmaker, and was frankly better from the pocket. And

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Speaker 2: Sam How's not as good as Russell Wilson shouldn't be. Also,

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson as Sean Payton a coaching edge. And I

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Speaker 2: said this before, is you don't have to be friends

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Speaker 2: with your coach. You don't have to be Belichick and

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Speaker 2: Brady didn't have dinner for twenty years, but there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of things they did have in common. Both

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Speaker 2: were driven, aspirational, no nonsense adults. Russell Wilson and Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton have the opposite personality. One is harsh, authentic to

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Speaker 2: the point, doesn't beat around the bush, doesn't care about

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Speaker 2: being polished, and is willing to be intense vocally. And

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Speaker 2: then there's Russell Wilson, who is polished, optimistic, refined. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, it's okay for a quarterback to be

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Speaker 2: more optimistic than pessimistic because people make mistakes. You play

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Speaker 2: with young guys, you want Brady try to be optimistic.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes optimism can veer away from realism. And so

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Speaker 2: in order for Russell Wilson and Sean Payton to work,

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Speaker 2: they have to win games. You can't go zero and

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Speaker 2: two to start the season, both games in Denver. You

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Speaker 2: can't lose to Sam Howell and Ron Rivera as a favorite.

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Speaker 2: You can't lose back to back games as a favorite

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Speaker 2: against the Raider and the Commanders. And so this relationship

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Speaker 2: only works because the personalities are so different. It only

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Speaker 2: works if they win these close games and they're zero.

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Speaker 2: And to the very first day he had the opportunity

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Speaker 2: he did. Sean Payton acquired Jarrett Stidham for a pretty

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Speaker 2: healthy backup quarterback salary, which told you when he got

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Speaker 2: to Denver, the first thing he did was look at

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson film. How do I know, because he told

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Speaker 2: me that was the first thing he was going to do.

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Speaker 2: He was going to look at all his plays. What

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Speaker 2: does he do well? What doesn't he do well? Let's

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Speaker 2: avoid the latter, let's go toward the former. So he

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Speaker 2: obviously saw stuff on film where he wanted somebody who

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Speaker 2: could sit in the pocket and make throws. Remember in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans, once Drew Brees got older, they had Taysom Hill,

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Speaker 2: they had Jameis Winston, they had Teddy Bridgewater. He was

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Speaker 2: cycling people through as Drew Brees aged. Well. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: is thirty four and he looks like he's thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: He just simply does not move as well as he

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Speaker 2: did four years ago. I don't know if some of

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Speaker 2: it's confidence emotional, no major surgeries. Thirty four plays much

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Speaker 2: much older than his age. Brady obviously played much younger

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Speaker 2: than his age. Aaron Rodgers largely plays younger pre injury

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Speaker 2: than his age. But this thing doesn't work, and you know, again,

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Speaker 2: the hail Mary makes this game look more competitive. Very

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Speaker 2: early on Denver scripted plays had some success that Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton doing the work. But when you get to late

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Speaker 2: first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, early fourth that's quarterback play,

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Speaker 2: that's pre snap, that's you quarterback line of scrimmage. Quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: I don't even like Daniel Jones had very very good

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, late third quarters today, just on athleticism and

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Speaker 2: some big time throws. So I think this, I think

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Speaker 2: they're headed for major turbulence in Denver next year, starting

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Speaker 2: next year for five years. This is a massively punitive

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Speaker 2: contract to the Broncos with a coach and a quarterback

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Speaker 2: with completely different personalities. And I think there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with being optimistic, but I think it gets frustrating when

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Speaker 2: somebody's really optimistic and there's obvious problems. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: like optimistic people. I don't like negative people. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if the walls are caving in, you know we're in

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Speaker 2: the middle of an earthquake. I don't want optimism. I

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Speaker 2: want to figure out a way to get safe and

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Speaker 2: clean the house up. And so I think we're looking

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Speaker 2: at a situation here in Denver. This is only going

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Speaker 2: to get worse. The schedule's only going to get tougher

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Speaker 2: now they go on the road. And again, if you

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Speaker 2: watch the game, and I did, once they got off

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Speaker 2: scripted plays, second, third, quarter, fourth, I thought Sam Howe

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Speaker 2: played more confidently. Really really hard to figure out. Never

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Speaker 2: seen a quarterback have it, lose it without a major

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Speaker 2: injury pre thirty five years old. Never seen it. I

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Speaker 2: have no comp Speaking of quarterback trouble, you can blame

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Speaker 2: the coach or blame the quarterback. Justin field right now

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like a franchise quarterback. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you can't see the field or anticipate. But they spend

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Speaker 2: some money on that offense. The offensive line isn't great,

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Speaker 2: but it's not as bad as others in the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can watch the way they coach him.

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Speaker 2: They so badly want to control the clock, run, speed

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Speaker 2: the game up, shorten it. DJ Moore is a really

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Speaker 2: good player. If they got good tight ends. Luke Getz,

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Speaker 2: he's a respected offensive coordinator. It just doesn't work. So

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Speaker 2: you're going to have a situation in Chicago. You got

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Speaker 2: to blame somebody. Somebody is done after the season, is it.

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Speaker 2: Matt Eberflu's the head coach that was Bill Pollion's choice.

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Speaker 2: The ownership of the Bears called Bill Pollion and said,

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Speaker 2: kind of run our coaching search and Bill Matt Eberflus. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm a believer that if you have a young quarterback,

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Speaker 2: higher an offensive coach, if you have a veteran quarterback, okay,

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Speaker 2: then you can go defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's pretty clear evidence that the Jared Goff's

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Speaker 2: career was saved by Sean McVay. Brock Perty's career has

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Speaker 2: been elevated by Kyle Shanahan. Shane Steichen has done wonders

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Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson, who barely played college football. I think

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Speaker 2: young quarterbacks in the substantial guidance and a softer landing

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Speaker 2: after bad outcomes, and sometimes defensive coaches can be tone deaf.

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Speaker 2: Matty e Nflus maybe a good coach. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he's good for justin fields. But it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't work at all. It's it's just bad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can it's like Zack Wilson of the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Zach isn't just the only reason the Jets lost Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons ate him up, but it doesn't work. Zack's not

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Speaker 2: a He's not a franchise quarterback. Now, Justin's bigger, stronger arm,

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Speaker 2: maybe bigger athlete. Both are really mobile. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Greg Cosell came on my show this week and said,

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson and Justin Fields don't see the field particularly well.

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Speaker 2: They just leave completions in the pocket. Somebody's got to

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Speaker 2: take the blame for this because we're now, what is

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields? He is five and twenty two in twenty

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Speaker 2: seven starts. I mean, these are winnable games at home

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Speaker 2: against Jordan Love, on the road against Baker Mayfield. Again,

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Speaker 2: these look like W's coaching. Mccordy are making more money

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Speaker 2: faster than ever. And also, remember this is the best

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Speaker 2: college quarterback class I've ever seen. Michael Pennox, Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, Bo Knicks, Travis, Jordan, Drake, may Riley Leonard

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Speaker 2: at Duke. There's at least six quarterbacks. What's that going

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Speaker 2: to do? Gms are going to be much less patient

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Speaker 2: here we are again. It's like a repeat of last week.

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Speaker 2: So Brandon Staley's defense could not stop Ryan Tannehill the

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Speaker 2: last time he had the ball in the fourth, Nor

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Speaker 2: could they stop Ryan Tannehill in his big possession in overtime,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill. When an offense that's searching for a second receiver,

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Speaker 2: you can blame Justin Herbert. But Justin Herbert has averaged

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Speaker 2: more points in his first three year starting than any

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Speaker 2: quarterback including Patrick Mahomes, Dan Marino, John Elway in league history.

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Speaker 2: It's not an offensive problem. That's not the problem. Brandon

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Speaker 2: Staley and Brian Dabele interviewed for the Chargers job. Brian

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Speaker 2: Dabele is who I would have hired. Staley was cheaper,

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Speaker 2: and he was on the Rams staff, and perhaps the

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Speaker 2: Spanos family felt like, you know, we can pluck him

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Speaker 2: away and slow down the momentum of the Rams. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what they were thinking. But Brandon Staley had much

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Speaker 2: less experience in football. So much of the Rams' success

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Speaker 2: is centered around Sean McVeigh. You have to be careful

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Speaker 2: about plucking people from his staff. We know that Daboll

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Speaker 2: I just think they hired the wrong coach. I watched

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Speaker 2: this defense, Bosa Derwin, James J. C. Jackson. They've drafted well,

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Speaker 2: they could probably use another interior defensive lineman. But by

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Speaker 2: and large, this is an experienced defense that brought back

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Speaker 2: almost all their starters. Like they're a team that shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be fooled or out of sync like they were against Miami. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's Miami, but again the last two big possessions by Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee can't get a stop. So the Spanos family has

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Speaker 2: not going to run him in season. Plus they made

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Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. You know, the athletic the subscription

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Speaker 2: looked back at the Miami game and picked it apart

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Speaker 2: on some confusion in the secondary, and his primary issue was,

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Speaker 2: these guys are all returning, how can they make so

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Speaker 2: many mistakes on third and long and coverages. You can

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Speaker 2: see it on television. They just can't make big stops. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was interesting. I was talking to Chad

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Speaker 2: Millman this week. He comes on for Sharper square and

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Speaker 2: he said, this is a major coaching mismatch, which is why,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I thought Denver would win today. I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a coaching mismatch. But Brandon Staley, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're that front office right now, the Spano says Tom

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Speaker 2: to let's go the GM. I can assure you they're

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Speaker 2: not happy, and I do believe one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: they saw in the first two years of Brandon Staley's defense.

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Speaker 2: And my guess is Kellen Moore, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it would happen at the end of the season or Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: This team is just simply too talented to be zero

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Speaker 2: and two. There's too many good players on this roster.

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Speaker 2: There's almost no holes. I've been reluctant for years to

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Speaker 2: embrace the Chargers. This is the year I finally did.

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Speaker 2: It's just inexcusable. Ball is back in full swing and

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Speaker 2: n The crown is yours all right, John Middlecoff, I

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Speaker 1: I would have let it go.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you something, that game never felt close.

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Speaker 2: The fact that New England was driving you know, I

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Speaker 2: necessarily win you Super Bowls. But the Niners have the

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Speaker 1: I believe that.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's an Ivy League Shanahan right, the Ivy League guy.

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Speaker 3: The Shanahan family have known him for twenty years. He's

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Speaker 1: It's just not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: but you really, I mean, listen, it's like any other culture, John,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't.

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Speaker 2: Necessarily, I don't trust their offensive line. But then I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight, when you juxtapose these two teams, it was

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Speaker 2: The question was can Miami play physical football like New England?

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Speaker 2: It was like, Wow, Miami can play power football too

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Speaker 1: No, I mean San Francisco today.

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Speaker 3: I thought I had their cea game and one pretty easily,

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Speaker 3: The Chargers are in shambles. We'll see tomorrow with the

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Speaker 3: I think they got it, just because I believe in

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Speaker 3: Vic Fangio. Don't love the personnel, but he's such a

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Speaker 3: That could be a huge boost, right. But I think

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Speaker 3: out of it. I don't view him ever as a

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: Cousins and Dax, these guys go. That talent level goes

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Speaker 3: in terms of not turning the ball over last week,

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Speaker 3: I mean that pick. You can say all their guys

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Speaker 3: throwing it right to the other team. And that's that's

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Speaker 3: the thing with New England, the mistakes, the mistakes. I

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Speaker 3: half of the dynasty, the discipline and the mandates for zero,

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Speaker 1: Any moment you screwed up, you get cut.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, No, they weren't cutting Tom, but it was just

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Speaker 3: You can't really cut Mac, but they're kind of just

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Speaker 3: And he's a he's a turnover machine right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing was in New England's heyday for

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Speaker 2: other teams. I watched teams like Baltimore come into town

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Speaker 1: There were years the.

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Speaker 2: Colts did, Denver did, but New England out smarted you.

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Speaker 2: They would dial up a trick play late in the

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Speaker 2: They're not fooling people. They're turning the ball over if

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Speaker 2: They got no playmakers Kendrick Bourne's Devonte Parkers. And they're

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things you have to I

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Speaker 2: as I came into the season, Sam, I'm about fifty

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Speaker 2: five sixty percent in the Justin Fields is gonna make it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't love what I see as a passer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought today it was bad, Like you

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Speaker 2: my takeaway is you got to win that game against

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Speaker 2: more productive. Like they've that offensive line for Chicago it's

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Speaker 2: not elite. It's not it's you know, it's not Philadelphia, John.

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Speaker 2: It's not that bad. There was time today to make plays.

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Speaker 1: He's not very good, Colin. It's it's just that simple.

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Speaker 1: He's not. Right now, he's a low level NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 2: YEP.

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Speaker 3: Of all the thirty two starters, he's much closer to

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Speaker 3: he's just not very naturally accurate. He's not that really

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Speaker 3: seeing the field and stuff, and that's Kyle Shanahan. When

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Speaker 3: they made that trade, it was a two horse race.

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Speaker 3: He didn't even mess with him. He was not even

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Speaker 3: you know that they scheme the offense. But there were

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Speaker 3: he can't really and obviously now his confidence. He's just

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Speaker 3: he's a bad player. And you can tell me all

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Speaker 3: you want. Win loss record is not a quarterback stat.

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Speaker 1: Bullshit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all the good quarterbacks wine, He's not like

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Speaker 3: they didn't have a chance. I mean, Baker Mayfield looked

428
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Speaker 3: like Drew Brees right out to him on the same

429
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Speaker 3: field now and Baker's playing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, justin fields, was that was bad? That was

431
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Speaker 1: really really bad.

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Speaker 2: I's kind of rolled my eyes at the quarterback. It's

433
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Speaker 2: winning is not a quarterback stat. Twenty seven starts five

434
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Speaker 2: and twenty two. Come on, Dan Marino didn't win super Bowls.

435
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Speaker 2: Dan Marino won a lot of games, okay, and not

436
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: always not with always you know, great person. Well, Brett

437
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Farv won a lot of games without Pro Bowl wide receivers.

438
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: There's three or four plays in every football game that

439
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: high end quarterbacks make Mac Jones tonight on that final drive.

440
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 2: Some of those play he just doesn't move well enough.

441
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Speaker 2: And I think what happens John in situations like this

442
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Speaker 2: is for instance, Herbert I saw some stat in his

443
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Speaker 2: last like four starts, you know, he's sixty six percent

444
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Speaker 2: completion percentage, ninety eight passer rating, thirteen hundred yards. They're

445
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Speaker 2: zero to four, and nobody looks at Justin Herbert and

446
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Speaker 2: says it's Justin's fault. They're putting up twenty six twenty

447
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: eight a game. This is different. You may not love

448
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Speaker 2: the coach, but what happens when you don't love the quarterback.

449
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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I think it would be a

450
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Speaker 2: tougher decision for Chicago. But if you're the GM and

451
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Speaker 2: you're the owner, and you have a draft coming up

452
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Speaker 2: with six to seven first round quarterbacks and all of them,

453
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Speaker 2: I mean, Drake May, Shader Sanders, Caleb Williams, Mike Pennix

454
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Speaker 2: is having a season crushing it. It's like, okay, all

455
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Speaker 2: of these guys look like modern Even boon Nicks looks

456
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Speaker 2: better this year. So I do think it's easier to

457
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Speaker 2: move off. It's easier to move off justin fields than

458
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Speaker 2: maybe any other year. And I'm sorry their offensive personnel, John,

459
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Speaker 2: It's not that bad.

460
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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a two prong question. Now, one, do

462
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Speaker 3: you leave justin fields? It's an easy one because you

463
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Speaker 3: just watch him every week. Even the fans will agree

464
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Speaker 3: he's not good enough. It's not one of those that

465
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Speaker 3: it'll be universal. It is growing by the week. I mean,

466
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Speaker 3: my mom can tell the guy is not a very

467
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Speaker 3: good player at this point, this GM and coach didn't

468
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Speaker 3: draft him. Then you look at the coach and the GM.

469
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Speaker 3: Are they the right people to do this moving forward?

470
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Speaker 3: They traded for Chase Claypool last week pick thirty two.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw that viral video going around. That's

472
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Speaker 3: a good example a good organization. Okay, the pickslong Gaunt

473
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Speaker 3: cut the guy after week one? What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Lose more games? You're already losing. How do you allow

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Speaker 3: that to happen? And to me, you just questioned the

476
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Speaker 3: operation there. Obviously, Eberflus, is he good enough?

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Speaker 1: I got no clue.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna draft Pennix because they're gonna be in position,

479
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Speaker 3: not just with their pick, but remember we've talked about

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Speaker 3: this with Carolina's pick, so even if they're at like

481
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Speaker 3: three and six, they could easily maybe get up a spot.

482
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have a ton of options, right, But are

483
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Speaker 3: these people the group to do it. We've seen them

484
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Speaker 3: make moves. The draft one was relatively easy. They had Carolina,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of bent over a barrel on that one.

486
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Speaker 3: But some of these other moves, it's like, do they

487
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Speaker 3: know what they're doing? Especially the defensive coach you always

488
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Speaker 3: talked talk about this, so I don't know. I mean

489
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Speaker 3: people in the NFL, it's always easy to say, well,

490
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: just tank for this guy. Well that's true for the fans,

491
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Speaker 3: but we see coaches all the time. Todd Bowle is

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Speaker 3: a good example. O Tampa just sucked. Try to get

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Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams. Todd Bowle's not thinking like that. Mike Evans

494
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Speaker 3: and those guys aren't thinking a lot. Baker's not thinking

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Speaker 3: like that. So they're not I don't know if they're

496
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Speaker 3: gonna be a ten win team, but they're gonna try

497
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Speaker 3: like hell to be eight nine wins. Right, So the

498
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Speaker 3: Bears are just gonna suck because that's the quarterback not

499
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Speaker 3: any good. But do the other if if they were

500
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Speaker 3: in position with better personnel, would they be doing better?

501
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Speaker 3: Like are these guys capable? We see it with Brandon

502
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Speaker 3: Staley right clear, he's not good. He's been given a

503
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Speaker 3: team that if you flip flop him and Vrabel.

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, well, the charge are gonna win thirteen

505
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Speaker 1: games and Titans would win what fucking five? I mean,

506
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Speaker 1: they'd be terrible.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's great example. I want to I want

508
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: to pivot to that because Brandon Staley got into it

509
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: again with a reporter on the postgame press conference, and

510
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: he is feeling the heat. And I know the Chargers

511
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: in house don't love Staley snipping at reporters. He comes

512
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Speaker 2: across as sort of a know it all and condescending.

513
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: McVeigh doesn't. I think you've said it before. Brandon Staley's acting,

514
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Speaker 2: pretending to be a coach, and Sean McVay is a coach.

515
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Speaker 2: But it was another example today where Ryan Tannehill's final

516
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: drive in regulation, they couldn't make a stop. Ryan Tannehill's

517
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: driving overtime, they couldn't make a stop. Not only do

518
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Speaker 2: they have a Bosa on the edge, but they returned.

519
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Speaker 2: I think like ten starters, they're not and they have

520
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: two draft picks both especially two of from USC the edge.

521
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: They are good players. I mean they they Tom Selesko

522
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: is one of the better drafters in the league. First

523
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Speaker 2: four picks, Yeah, he just doesn't miss. Now, you could

524
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: say Khalil Mack was overpaid, but the truth is at

525
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: that time they needed somebody like having two pass rushers.

526
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Speaker 2: Herbert wasn't making any money. Your left tackle Rashaan Slater's

527
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: not making money. You can pay two pass rushers. I

528
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: don't think the Spanoses will eject Staley this year. But

529
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: let me throw this at you. Did they hire Kellen

530
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: Moore with an eye on making him the coach? Because

531
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Speaker 2: the Spanoses don't pay a fortune, you don't have to

532
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: pay Kellen Moore twelve million dollars I would guess today

533
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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore the coach next year. I don't know if

534
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: they replace him mid season. But like a when a

535
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Speaker 2: coach is arguing with the press and calling them out

536
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: by name, like to me, that feels personal and defensive, Well, I.

537
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Speaker 1: Think sometimes they're gonna be different.

538
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Speaker 3: Sides do arguments sometimes when it comes to play calling

539
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: or individual player. I think everyone's in agreement here. The

540
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: Chargers don't have a good enough coach for the team

541
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Speaker 3: that they have, and most people thought this offseason, Yes,

542
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: Sean Payton in your backyard, He's already in LA.

543
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: He likes it.

544
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: He clearly loves your quarterback. Anyone that follows this team

545
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: knows he was never gonna pay him money. That's not

546
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: the way they operate. Look at their last several coaches, McCoy,

547
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: Anthony Lynn, and these guys on the on the hierarchy

548
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: of NFL salaries are near the bottom. If Mike, aren't

549
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: they I mean they're the cheapest. So yeah, I think

550
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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, I think there's a chance you're oher to

551
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: four to OHO and five and you keep losing games

552
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: which you can't pick them to win moving forward, just

553
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: because you can't trust the head coach and the defenses

554
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: and shambles. But yeah, I could see them, you know,

555
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: kind of pulling the trigger because there was clearly pressure

556
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Speaker 3: coming into this season.

557
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Speaker 1: He feels it. Think about some of the moves they made.

558
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Khalil Mack.

559
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: But a big reason they wanted Khalil Mack because this

560
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: guy had coached him, helped make his name with Khalil

561
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: Mack back when Khalil Mack was good. They gave up

562
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: a second round pick. He makes a lot of money.

563
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Speaker 3: I love Khalil Mack as a young player. He's a

564
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Speaker 3: shell of himself. He's not very good.

565
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: J C.

566
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Speaker 1: Jackson.

567
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Speaker 3: You spend a lot of much that's not working out.

568
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Now he got hurt, but so you allocate a lot

569
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Speaker 3: of resources.

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Speaker 1: It's not working.

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Speaker 3: Your head coach has nothing to do with the offense

572
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Speaker 3: or the quarterback. So if the defense sucks, what's he

573
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Speaker 3: really doing. He's not like some raw ram motivator Mike Tomlin,

574
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Speaker 3: Nick Saban, Deon Sanders, that's not his deal. I think

575
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: he's in major trouble. I mean I because he's not

576
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: that expensive to fire. Real It's not like you're firing

577
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: Andy Reader Sean Payton where you have an eighty million

578
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: dollar payout. I think there are a couple losses away

579
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Speaker 3: from just just doing that, you know, and almost and

580
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: almost getting a free interview Colin with Kellen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting I'm looking at some numbers right now.

582
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: So if anybody's watching this on YouTube, I'm looking at

583
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Speaker 2: some numbers because, as you know, they threw for almost

584
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: five hundred yards and tonight again, I think the Chargers

585
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: have better personnel overall than the Patriots do defensively. And

586
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: remember the Patriots were missing two corners and one got hurt.

587
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: Threw for two hundred and forty nine yards and an

588
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: interception against New England. Against the Chargers of more talented defense,

589
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: he almost threw for five hundred yards and three touchdowns. Tonight,

590
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: Tua struggled to a dropped a couple of snaps. Tua

591
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: was pressured. So there's a prime example, is that to

592
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: a one. But he he sputtered for a while. He

593
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect a lot of the stuff with yards after catch.

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Speaker 2: He almost got double the yards against the Chargers that

595
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Speaker 2: he did against New England, and the Chargers have better personnel.

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Speaker 1: Well, think about this. You watched the Bengals the last

597
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Speaker 1: couple weeks.

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Speaker 3: You go, well, if Joe Burrow's gonna look like this, yeah,

599
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Speaker 3: they're gonna lose like they He's got to play better.

600
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Speaker 3: I don't know if his CAF's issue. He just looks

601
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: off the IT test. It does not look like Joe Burrow.

602
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: Now last year he started slow, whatever, But it's understandable.

603
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: If Joe Burrow is gonna play like crap, the Bengals

604
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: are gonna lose. Well, Herbert's played well, you know, they

605
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: keep scoring points. He looks like a really good quarterback

606
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: and they keep losing. The Dolphins last week. Okay, it

607
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: turns out maybe the Dolphins fourteen win team, this Titans team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys were the Titans would start

609
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: for the for the Chargers. And to me, it's just simple.

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Speaker 3: It's a coaching It's like Patrick Mahomes versus Justin Fields something.

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: The mismatch is so so wide that of course they lost.

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: Because Mike Vrabel is an elite coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have their defensive interior defensive lineman for Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: He had a Simmons is good je he's a star.

615
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got about two or three other guys

616
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: that you would obviously get run. But it was a

617
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: lobsided game today. And I think, even though I was

618
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: reading something on the internet yesterday about it, like the

619
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Speaker 2: wise guys like the Titans simply because they thought it

620
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: was a coaching one of the worst coaching mismatches in

621
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Speaker 2: the league this year. So, I mean, we might as

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00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: well talk Dallas and the Jets. I think I think Dallas,

623
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's not a lot of great quarterbacks in

624
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: this league. There's about six great ones and another six

625
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: good ones. Anybody that's not on that list is not

626
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: beating Dallas this year. Now Jalen Hurts can Daniel Jones can't.

627
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: He can't beat him. Sam Sam Hall can't beat him.

628
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson can't beat him. I mean I look at

629
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Speaker 2: Dallas and I go up and down their schedule, and

630
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: the way I look at that defense John is there's

631
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: about six quarterbacks in this league that can beat him,

632
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: and another four or five that if they get protection,

633
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: you know it'll be a close game. I think Dallas's

634
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: defense is gonna win the twelve games. I think Dak

635
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: is not.

636
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Speaker 1: The story.

637
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: Is Micah Parsons the best defensive player in the league.

638
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: Well, he had a play today on I think his

639
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: first sac. He was at full speed in half a

640
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: step on a little stunt. It's like, what are you

641
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: supposed to do with this here? I was way too

642
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: young to really remember, you know, watch LT's prime, but

643
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: that has to be some of what it looked like.

644
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: The speed, the violence, the closing ability, how you can

645
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: move them around like a chess piece. I thought this

646
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: last year in the second round they went toe to

647
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: toe with the Niners, who are clearly, if not the

648
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: most but right there now with Dallas is the most

649
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: physical team. I mean, they are violent on defense, and

650
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: the Cowboys were ready to win a championship on defense,

651
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: but Dak threw the two picks and that the game

652
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: was tight. Perdy didn't play that well because it's hard

653
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: against the Cowboys. This defense feels even a little bit better.

654
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: Maybe Micah's five percent better. All the guys have played

655
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: together a little longer. They kept Dan Quinn.

656
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

657
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: I picked Dallas to win the East at the beginning

658
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: of the year, not because I don't think highly of

659
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: the Eagles. I think both of them are thirteen fourteen

660
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: win teams. But I've seen what the Niners do. Separating

661
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: with an elite defense and an elite pass rush, it

662
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: just takes over. I mean, Zach Wilson, listen, has he

663
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: improved it?

664
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Who knows?

665
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: You weren't gonna find much out this week. Probably have

666
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: a better idea next week, but he's playing Belichick. But

667
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: that team, I'm telling you, if they just need to

668
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: get the four game stretch, if they stay healthy like

669
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: Eli gott like Joe Flacco got whe Dad could just

670
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: under control. They don't need the wild card game where

671
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: he throws five touchdowns every week. Can he just play

672
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: a couple games stretch where he's not throwing the ball

673
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: to the other team, and they can win a Super

674
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: Bowl because that's how good the defense is.

675
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: The same with the Niners. The Niners could have won

676
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: several Super Bowls. Their defense was right there. Jimmy just

677
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: let him down a couple times.

678
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: Well look at this. So here are the quarterbacks. The

679
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: Cowboys face.

680
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Dobbs Arizona win. He can't beat it.

681
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: Now, Mac Jones, Patriots with no number one receiver win. Now,

682
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: brock Perty's got a shot because of his personnel. Herbert Okay, Stafford,

683
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: I don't think they have enough weapons. Cooper Cup is back.

684
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. Jalen hurts, Yes, then Daniel Jones, Bryce Young,

685
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: Sam Howe, Geno Smith.

686
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna win a lot of games. They're

687
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of games.

688
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: They got three games, you know, if they if they

689
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: somehow split with the Eagles in that Niner game on

690
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: Sunday Night football, I think it's gonna be a coin

691
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: flip game. If they can somehow go two and three,

692
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: you're looking at the number one seed, right, And if

693
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: they go one and three, you're maybe looking at the

694
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: wild card, right. So it's gonna and I think all

695
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: these games the Niners played the Eagles, obviously, Nighters play

696
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and the Eagles play the Cowboys twice. You know,

697
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: it's these games are gonna come down to a fumble

698
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: here who doesn't throw a pick? And it's gonna decide

699
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: because all three have number one seed talents, right. I

700
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: think clearly the Niners have the most established head coach

701
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: right now in terms he's the play caller. Also, McCarthy

702
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: say this, when you have that good of a defense,

703
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: it hardens your team because you practice against it. And

704
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: now this team, so the Cowboys to me just look

705
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: a little bit better than they did last year, and

706
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: they were pretty good last year.

707
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: And the Eagles. You and I talked about this anytime

708
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: you change.

709
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: If we got we went to the store and got

710
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: a set of ingredients, you know two X, I cook

711
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: a meal, and you know Gordon Ramsey cooks the meal.

712
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: Even though it's the same ingredients, the meal is gonna

713
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: taste different. So just because the players return new coordinators

714
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: doesn't look.

715
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: The same, right.

716
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also think dan Quinn they'll be they'll

717
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: be fine. But yeah, no, I Dallas is I haven't

718
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: I hadn't as a play team. I also think Philadelphia,

719
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: we can circle back to Thursday. Philadelphia is pulled back.

720
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: They don't they don't know quite what they are. And

721
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: it's interesting because you know, they have a power running

722
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: quarterback and they signed into a big contract. And it's

723
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: like when Russell Wilson signed his big deal, he didn't

724
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: want to run anymore. And then Jalen Hurt signs his

725
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: big deal and my takeaway is if he plays only

726
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: four more years, that's worth the contract. He's a power

727
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: running quarterback, lean into what he is. It's almost like

728
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: some of these guys that run around when they signed

729
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: the big contracts, they think, okay, that's for a pocket quarterback.

730
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: It's like, no bro like Lamar Jackson today. I always

731
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: thought Lamar throws it better than people give him credit for,

732
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, but I watched him today and he is

733
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: just a pain in the ass to defend. He's just

734
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: he's just difficult.

735
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: And Baltimore is.

736
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: A fascinating team because none of these injuries I don't

737
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: know than JK. Dobbins are season ending injuries. I don't

738
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: know how much of you watch today.

739
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: I think both they look good. They look good Lamar.

740
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Lamar look good. I mean he was dynamic.

741
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: I thought he was dynamic, and I think, you know,

742
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: you start looking around at who can beat Patrick Mahomes.

743
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: You take out the Chargers because we don't like the coach.

744
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: Forget Denver, Cincinnati sputtering, Buffalo makes too many mistakes. You know,

745
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: I look around it and I'm you know, Baltimore is

746
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: one of those teams like if Obj was healthy, Zay

747
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: Flowers plays well. Baltimore is just goofy enough counter to

748
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: what the league is. Do you find them to be

749
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: a legit kind of AFC championship team. I think they're

750
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: so different they're hard to prepare for.

751
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these type players have come

752
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: into the league, really starting with Tyreek Hill and Deebo

753
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: and I think Waddle's like this. I think Zay Flowers,

754
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: he's a really dynamic player, and you put him on

755
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: that offense, he can he can do a lot like

756
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: he can play a receiver, you put him in the backfield,

757
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: you can get him end to rounds. He's added a

758
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: new l because you know, Baltimore is always going to

759
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: be solid on defense. Their culture of toughness. When Lamar

760
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: is running around because I like what you said about Hurts.

761
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: I missed on hers. I thought he was I didn't

762
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: like him in college, but I said, hell, if you

763
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: can't play quarterback, he could just transition to become a

764
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 3: running back. His instincts as a runner or elite.

765
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: What do you do right away? When he came in

766
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, he's a dynamic runner. Well now it.

767
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: Feels like clearly they've told him be careful. Last year,

768
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: you hurt your shoulder, lamar. Today's run around like it's

769
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Now Hurts is kind of feeling his way out.

770
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: It's like Jalen either. They called some quarterback powers. Well,

771
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: if you're gonna tell him he can't run fast, don't

772
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: call those plays anymore. But that's a huge element of

773
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: why he's a fifty million dollar player. So now they're

774
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: kind of caught in no man's lamb. He's thinking he's

775
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: not running as fast. He's never gonna be. He's more

776
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: of a rhythm player, kind of like Russell was in

777
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: his peak. He's not just gonna sit back and throw

778
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: forty times and go thirty seven to forty.

779
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: That's not his style.

780
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: It's blended in with the runs like Lamar and he

781
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: can outplay Mahomes in the Super Bowl. But when you

782
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: take away one of those elements, new play caller is

783
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: clearly not as good as Shane's ssiching. It's just it

784
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: just it looks a little weird. We're listen, the Ravens

785
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: kept talking We're gonna spread it out and throw.

786
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: I've watched the first couple weeks. They're just kind of

787
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: playing Raven football again. Yeah.

788
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: No, I like, I think Baltimore leans into what Lamar is,

789
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: and I think what he is is the fastest human

790
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: being that's ever played quarterback. And if you don't use

791
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: that at silly and I still think Lamar throws the

792
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: ball better than people give him credit for. You know,

793
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: I was, I was thinking about it's you know, I

794
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: this weekend was an interesting weekend because you know, there

795
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 2: wasn't and nothing blew me away. I mean, I can't

796
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: hit a pick. I'm oh for nine on my picks.

797
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: I got Carolina tomorrow. I can't for the life of me,

798
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: I can't get a pick. Was there anything this weekend?

799
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Colorado almost lost the Colorado State was the

800
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: only surprising thing I saw this weekend? Was there anything

801
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: that took you back this weekend or like I thought.

802
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay Atlanta.

803
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: The line was one you know, I don't I don't

804
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: take much into it didn't shock me that Seattle went

805
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: on the road, Gino played pretty well in one. Was

806
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: there any did you have any takeaway to you this weekend?

807
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: College or pro that It was like a whoa moment.

808
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I might be wrong on and I

809
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: might have talked to you out of this because you

810
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: were loved them, and I was like, you know, I

811
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: think they're gonna be the worst team in the league.

812
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 3: And it was the Rams a lot of you because

813
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: you liked a lot of the young players. Their young

814
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: players looked pretty good. Yeah, and the one thing they

815
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: have is a big time head coach who is a

816
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: fantastic play color who's just awesome. I mean, Sean mcvazis

817
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: stud his quarterback went healthy, is a pretty freaking good player.

818
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: And you know, the Niners essentially.

819
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: Won by ten.

820
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: He kicked the field goal with no time left, but

821
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: to make it a seven point game. RAMS team is

822
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: pretty good. If they had Cooper Cup on this squad,

823
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to score on a lot of people.

824
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: If Stafford playing healthy. They have some young speed on defense,

825
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: Number zero young the pass rush they drafted, he's flying

826
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: around Sean. I thought I misread that squad. They have

827
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: a little more talent than I thought. And obviously I

828
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: thought the quarterback was breaking down last year. Looks fantastic.

829
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: He looks like the version of the guy that they got.

830
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: Maybe they are more in the wild card mix and

831
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: not in the Caleb Williams sweet stakes than I realized.

832
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to pivot on that take.

833
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, so they have a rookie receiver from BYU.

834
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: He's fantastic.

835
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so he's He's got twenty five catches and.

836
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: Two broke a record most ever in NFL history first

837
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: two games.

838
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: So I think they're moving off Van Jefferson, who one

839
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 2: of the picks today by Stafford was Van Jefferson didn't

840
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: run the right route, he didn't go vertically. He kind

841
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: of like faded on it. So if Cooper comes back

842
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: as a one, now they have a two. By the

843
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: way two two out, well looked like a bust. Now

844
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: he's productive. You know what they do and they told

845
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: me they were going to do this. They just put

846
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: him in motion. So you can't get your hands on

847
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: him fast and he gets a running start, he's just

848
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: too fast. So now they have and Tyler Higbey's a

849
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: very nice tight end. So now they have two two

850
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: at well Cooper Cup the rookie from BYU. And now

851
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, now it's a real offense. Will

852
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: say this, here's a prime example what I talk about.

853
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Ten of the top eleven O lines were offensive coaches.

854
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: So Rob Havenstein, the right tackle is very good, and

855
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: they drafted a very good left guard out of TCU.

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Speaker 2: Everything else. They got a left tackle playing right guard.

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Speaker 2: They got a guard who's a backup center now starting

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Speaker 2: at center. They have an undrafted guy planning left tackle.

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Speaker 2: It's a prime example. Sean McVeigh twice, Jared Goff's first

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Speaker 2: year with him, and this year has basically taken an

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Speaker 2: offensive line that was a bit of a wreck and

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: solved it in a single off season. McDermott five years,

863
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: can't get it right. Tomlin six years, can't get the

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Speaker 2: O line right. Twice because the Niners didn't get as

865
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Speaker 2: much pressure as you think they would against an O

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Speaker 2: line outside of right tackle that's viewed as poor.

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Speaker 1: They've mean were't getting to Colin. They weren't getting any pressure,

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Speaker 1: so they've heard blitzing Fred Warner.

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Speaker 2: So it's like the Rams in two starts have done

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Speaker 2: a great job of production. You look at these defensive coaches.

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Speaker 2: They Andy Reid one off season got the old line right.

872
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Speaker 2: McVeigh did it with Whitworth. Mcveagh's done it. This is

873
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Speaker 2: the difference between offensive and defensive coaches. The ability because

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Speaker 2: during camp I was following the Rams offensive line stuff

875
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Speaker 2: through the athletic I was following the young reporter.

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Speaker 1: It was a mess.

877
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Speaker 2: They were giving you like six different options and then

878
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: they ended up starting noteboom at a guard.

879
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Speaker 1: They just bailed on the tackle.

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Speaker 2: And they're good and highly functional. So I again, if

881
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Speaker 2: Cooper cup comes back and plays, what they'll be in

882
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: the NFC is around a wild card berth because let's

883
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: be honest, Dallas is probably better than we all thought.

884
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: Detroit did Detroit today.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams will be viable. I think they'll

887
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Speaker 2: be a wildcard team in the race.

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00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: I think the NFC is a lot like college football

889
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: where the Cowboys Niners in the Eagles, they'll figure it

890
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: out that they're just so much more talented.

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00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: All the other team are essentially like the Georgia's and

892
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Speaker 1: Michigan's and then.

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Speaker 3: Everyone else is kind of buying, you know, for spot

894
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: four through seven, and we got Atlanta, Green Bay, Seattle,

895
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 3: the Rams, Detroit. They're all kind of in that world.

896
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Speaker 3: You know, there'll one team may win a playoff game,

897
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: but I don't see any of those teams beating the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: and definitely the Cowboys in the forty nine ers.

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, John Middlecoff, great stuff. Appreciate it, and

900
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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in Dave Wanstat tomorrow. I want

901
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: to talk about the Bears because I I really think

902
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: it's a I think it's going to get really ugly

903
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: talk radio. Chicago's one of the last cities in America Philadelphia, Boston,

904
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Speaker 2: New York where talk radio has influence. That is all

905
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Speaker 2: people are going to talk about for the next seventy

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Speaker 2: two hours.

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Speaker 3: It's justin fields, Well, could he could he get could

908
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: he get benched? Sometimes at some time this don't keeps

909
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Speaker 3: going at this level.

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Speaker 1: You just ride it out.

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00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: I think they'll ride it out, but I think listen,

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Speaker 2: it's it's you know what happened, John, There's too much

913
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Speaker 2: social media. There's too much vide you out there, there's

914
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: too much film. You have proof now. I went before

915
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: we came on tonight and looked up two different things

916
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Speaker 2: on the internet where there are people wide open downfield.

917
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Speaker 2: He appears to be looking at them, and he won't

918
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Speaker 2: let it go. There's just too much out there that

919
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: works against him. Five and twenty two wide open receivers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Baker Mayfield looks so much better today than

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Speaker 2: justin fields. And again, talk radio is not the be

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Speaker 2: all end all, but everybody listens to it. In Chicago,

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Speaker 2: nobody's listening right. San Francisco a little bit, But a

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Speaker 2: the same. I would love to listen to sports talk

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