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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire? Pray It's the Jason McIntyre

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire. Or Tuesday, May the twentieth, we have a

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Speaker 2: special fun podcast for you today, Rob G and I.

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Speaker 2: Rob G now fully back in the swing. Last week

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Speaker 2: he was kind of dipping a toe back in the

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Speaker 2: water coming off paternity leave. We are going to break

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Speaker 2: down and predict both conference finals. It's an interesting quartet

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Speaker 2: we have here. One of them last water title in

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three, that's the Knicks. The other three combined

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Speaker 2: have never won a title, so we will see new ground.

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Speaker 2: We are also trying to extend a streak the last

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Speaker 2: six years. We've had six different champs. Obviously that will

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Speaker 2: extend to seven because none of these for water title

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Speaker 2: last year or in recent memory in fact, So I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Before we get to that, Rob, I want

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Speaker 2: to you know, I talked about it a little yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Rob over the weekend was like, hey man, I found

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Speaker 2: our old podcast predictions on the NBA season and Rob

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Speaker 2: had Nick's Thunder and I had nix Wolves. So obviously

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Speaker 2: we need to start out patting ourselves on the back.

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Speaker 2: Now I do this, I don't have rob. Was the

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Speaker 2: McKale Bridges deal right before the season or was it

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Speaker 2: in the summer, because I'm trying to think did both

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Speaker 2: us both picking the Knicks? Was that influenced by the

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Speaker 2: Bridges deal? Do you remember when the Bridge deal went down?

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Speaker 3: I actually went back and listened to the whole podcast.

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Speaker 3: We did it right one week before the season, So yes,

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Speaker 3: we had that. Bridges was already on there. You even

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Speaker 3: mentioned in your analysis that in the hypothetical finals, whereas

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards versus the Knicks, it's like, well, I don't

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Speaker 3: know they're gonna have garden. Maybe it's just the Josh Hart,

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Speaker 3: Bridges and annob All get turns out of him because

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Speaker 3: there's really no singular matchup for him. So yeah, we've

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Speaker 3: had all of this locked and loaded for what is

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Speaker 3: this now? Seven eight months?

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody good, not bad now listen, Obviously weird

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Speaker 2: stuff happens. Luca traded midseason. If you asked me two

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Speaker 2: months ago for my prediction, it would not have been

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Speaker 2: Mixed and it would not have been Wolves because two

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Speaker 2: months ago Wolves did not look like a championship team.

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Speaker 2: I did not know Julius Randall was going to turn

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Speaker 2: into Carl Malone. Okay, I did not have that on

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Speaker 2: my biingo card. I did not see the Celtics losing

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Speaker 2: Tatum and falling apart. I didn't see the Calves. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, what the hell out of the Calves? The

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Speaker 2: posts mortem. I know we're not gonna do Calves today,

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Speaker 2: but my goodness, the Cleveland fans are irate. The Calves

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Speaker 2: are an unmitigated disaster heading into the offseason, and the

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Speaker 2: Knicks look like they could be set up for a

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Speaker 2: big run here over the next couple of years with

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Speaker 2: the Celtics down, but the Pacers as well are looking sharp.

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Speaker 2: So Rob, let me go back. Are you surprised this

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Speaker 2: is the matchup? I mean again, the Calves won sixty

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Speaker 2: four games I think, and the Celtics everybody had go

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Speaker 3: Oh, you'd have to be surprised. And again this is

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Speaker 3: coming full disclosure. You and I both picked the Knicks

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Speaker 3: before the season, but if I recall before the last series,

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Speaker 3: I think we both had Boston. I remember saying after

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Speaker 3: it looked like Boston and finally found their mojo. They

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Speaker 3: And credit to New York, they would stood the Jason

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Speaker 3: Tatum Porzingis is dealing with something. It was a Sam Hauser.

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Speaker 3: was surprised. I mean, the New York Knicks for all

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Speaker 3: I think that it works fits well, very well together.

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Speaker 3: we are. He's the conference finals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the Knicks are the biggest surprise here.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, the Wolves are here. Steph Curry got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Knicks versus Anthony Edwards final. Okay, you get MSG rock

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Speaker 2: in New York City, big media market. Nicks haven't been

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Speaker 2: and you got Anthony Edwards, a big, young, brash star

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Speaker 2: although it hasn't been his downfall yet. But listen, Anthony

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Speaker 2: the court. I'm sorry, Okac fans, I know you're like, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: don't know that they have the identity that ant does,

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Speaker 2: and obviously the Knicks had the lord, But would you

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Speaker 2: would agree Nicks Wolves.

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Speaker 3: Would be the best matchup for the finals in terms

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Speaker 3: of on court matchup. Absolutely, and that's even factoring in.

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Speaker 3: I think we all agree at some point this week,

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Speaker 3: SGA is gonna be named MVP. So in a theoretical world,

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Speaker 3: last remaining big market versus the reigning MVP or or

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Speaker 3: the current MVP. But as it relates to, like the

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Speaker 3: see and what the media partners would like, I think

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Speaker 3: it's hands down Anthony Edwards. Like, if you had a

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Speaker 3: choice Anthy Edwards and SGA, I think nine out of

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Speaker 3: ten times you're picking that man for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go okay, see, let's do okay see first, Okay,

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Speaker 2: see Minnesota. I'll get to my pick shortly. I obviously

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Speaker 2: it's contrasting styles, right, Okay, See wants to push. They

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Speaker 2: are guard and wing reliant, although they can play two bigs,

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Speaker 2: look pretty damn good at times against Denver. Meanwhile, Minnesota

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Speaker 2: obviously the stifled Tower, one of the great nicknames. Jada

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Speaker 2: McDaniels is super long. They're just big and long, and

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Speaker 2: they just swarm you in the half court. And I

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Speaker 2: know we don't put a lot of stock in the

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Speaker 2: regular season. I think Rob alluded to it. The Knicks

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Speaker 2: so I don't put a ton of stock. But I

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Speaker 2: will say this, Denver's zone defense, Rob, which they didn't

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Speaker 2: play a lot of in the regular season, gave OKAC fits.

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Speaker 2: I won. Minnesota threw zone at OKC during the season

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Speaker 2: it two ways. Hey, Oka, see got a lot of

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Speaker 2: looks against the zone against Denver. They're prepped and ready

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Speaker 2: for action. Okay, Sure, the Denver zone was just like

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Speaker 2: cobbled together by the interim coach. They didn't do a

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Speaker 2: lot of zone in the season. Minnesota has played a

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Who do I think is a bigger star

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Speaker 2: or better star? SGA can win the MVP, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I think Anthony Edwards is a better player, better three

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kristin Brown, Russell Westbrook. Really you look at

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Speaker 2: like Minnesota in this matchup, Rob. I'm looking for edges

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Speaker 2: for OKC. I think j Dubb Jaylen Williams, who had

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Speaker 2: a brutal series against Denver, and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear about his eight layups and dunks in Game seven

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You can put McDaniels on him, and

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Speaker 2: he ain't gonna do Jack Squad. I mean, we've seen

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Speaker 2: McDaniel slow Luca, We've seen ant Man slow Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 2: I just I think Minnesota is the is the team

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Speaker 2: nas Reed become really really amazing. You're talking five out

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Speaker 2: Julius Randall unlocked as a playmaker. He had a triple

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Speaker 2: double in one game last series. Like when you pull

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Speaker 2: go Bear off the floor, it's not like it's a

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Speaker 2: are just so flexible. I'm gonna go Minnesota in six.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate that pick, mostly because I knew you

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Speaker 3: were gonna go Minnesota and your preseason pick was Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: whoever ends up'll get my picking. But whoever wins this year,

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Speaker 3: that believe is gonna be long series. This is not

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Speaker 3: gonna be one of those ones hashtag Lakers in five, Like,

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Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen in this series. These two teams

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Speaker 3: are I'm not gonna call them mirror images of each other,

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Speaker 3: other because both teams can get really streaky from behind

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Speaker 3: the arc. We saw that in last series with Golden

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Speaker 3: State Minnesota, game to game, almost quarter to quarter would

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Speaker 3: see in the last in what was a Game seven,

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Speaker 3: they couldn't shoot at all in the first half and

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Speaker 3: still ten Asians. They're getting down in transition. Ultimately, though,

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Speaker 3: what I think is gonna come down to is you

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Speaker 3: have right now the two best teams in the paint

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Speaker 3: between OKAC and Minnesota. OKAC plus eight and a half

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a sluggish, grinded out type series.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why I'm going to pick OKC, even

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Speaker 3: though I think these teams are very close, is you

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Speaker 3: saw last series against Denver. They have three, four, five

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like a lot, but it really speeds

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Speaker 2: I think we said was thirty two and twenty nine

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Speaker 2: Is he not the most overrated player in the league.

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Speaker 3: He's up there, He's like an All Star. But come on,

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Speaker 3: But to your point, he's been so inconsistent you can't

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, third team All NBA, I need

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Speaker 2: a joke. All right, let's go Pacers Knicks. We both

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Speaker 2: obviously Halliburton is the band. Did you see the video, Rob,

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Speaker 2: Garland don't play defense. Mitchell's not a defender. Their wing

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Speaker 2: Like he's a good defender. I just think the Knicks

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Speaker 3: New York during the regular season and coming to these

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Speaker 3: In games where he scores twenty points, the Knicks win

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Speaker 3: Look at the numbers. He's right up there. He's right

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Speaker 2: So the Knicks led by nine in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: four burger uh forty six percent from the field. Like

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Speaker 2: the Pacers. For as good as Nie Smith and nemhardar,

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Speaker 2: they cannot guard him. I'm sorry they can't. And the

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Speaker 2: Knicks are better offensively now with Kat and Og splashing

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Speaker 2: so I'm with you. I like the Knicks in this

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Speaker 2: I do love this Pacers team. They're close that that

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Speaker 2: uh Karl Anthony Town's number, you gave me his troubling

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Speaker 2: he was what three for fifteen?

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Speaker 3: You know, he shot fifteen percent in the series against Boston.

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Speaker 3: In all fairness, he only tempted nineteen threes. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: the game the game plan for Boston was We're going

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Speaker 3: to defend him with smaller guys for the most part,

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Speaker 3: Like they had Jaln Brown on him, they had Tatum

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Speaker 3: on him, and they would hide Horford and porzingis what

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Speaker 3: was playing on the other on Josh Hart usually and

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Speaker 3: in this case, if Kat is able to pull Turner

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Speaker 3: away from the basket, there is absolutely nothing to stop

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Speaker 3: Jalen Runs from averaging thirty three thirty five points game

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Speaker 3: in the series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'll get that. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: for all the Thibodeau's overplaying his guys, the Knicks won

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Speaker 2: the series on Friday, Brunson only had to play thirty five.

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Speaker 2: So they got off Saturday, they got off Sunday, they

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Speaker 2: got off Monday, they'll get off Tuesday. That's a lot

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Speaker 2: of rest and you get to stay home no travel

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Speaker 2: for the Knicks for the first two games. They they're

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Speaker 2: home court advantaged, so everything's coming up nixt Obviously, those

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Speaker 2: first two games are gonna be big. I think the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: I'll go with Knicks in. You said six, Yep, Budge,

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Speaker 2: can I go? If I see I would go five.

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Speaker 2: But if they blow one of the first two, yeah,

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Speaker 2: then it's a dumb prediction.

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Speaker 3: And that would be disrespectful to the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go.

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Speaker 2: I'll go Knickson seven. I think they you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: have it. Halliburton worries me. Haliburton is sneaky, one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite players. So and we'll have some off days.

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Speaker 2: So Rob and I I would like like looking forward,

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Speaker 2: the league is starting to change. Rob, have you noticed

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Speaker 2: just some of these guys are like the Kevin Durant stuff.

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Speaker 2: People aren't as hot for Kevin Durant anymore right now.

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Speaker 2: It's it's he's getting old, Lebron obviously staying with the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry getting old and injured. Are we are we

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Speaker 2: doing that cycle where the young guys start to take over.

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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be an interesting topic this offseason.

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Speaker 2: But that's your preview for Knicks, Pacers and Wolves thunder Boy.

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Speaker 2: If okay See makes the final, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: eat a lot of crow. I bashed that team all year.

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Speaker 3: Rub It can't be any worse than shaving a seahawk

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Speaker 3: inside of your head.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing any of that star for all.

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Speaker 2: Right back tomorrow, talk to you then,