1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: I welcome to episode one sixty six with Emily Wise Band. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: We've never met before, which is weird because we know 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: all the same people I know, we have we have 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: literally really close friends that, um, we've never met. I 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: asked Mike. I said, I've never met Emily before, and 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: he said, I think I saw her once. So it's 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: like you're a like a unicorn running around town. Take it. Welcome, 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the house, to the ship. Look your faces 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: up on a big wall. Oh my god, that's crazy. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: I have. I was going through some notes about you, 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: because again, I only know because I know you and 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Lauren you are, we're good friends. Lena and she would 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: she when she would come over, and Laura and I've 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: been on the road a lot. She's like, yeah, he's 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: one of my best friends. And so that's really how 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: I knew you. And then Nicole Galleon, so yeah, I 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: think that's that's that's who it is, like you should 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: know Emily. So I never did it. So I was like, Mike, 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: book Emily, and as I was looking at all your songs, 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: here's I don't know you were irritated by this, but 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: I was irritated for you, and I don't know the 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: story behind it, so you should tell me how you 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: feel about this this Bryan saw that you that you 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: sing in you're not on the track, no, like I 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: didn't write it. No, you're not on it, No I didn't. 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: But but you sing on it. You're not a background vocal, 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: but you're not on like Luke Bryan featuring Emily Wise mantlin. 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm not listen how prominent you are here in cause 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: you haven't ever heard this. Start the clip over a 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: little bit too. I mean this this too, and listen. 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: I love Luke. He's one of my dear friends. We 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: do American I altogether we spent and probably wasn't his call. 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: But back in the day, flow Rider had right round 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: and Kesha was on it and they didn't credit Kesh 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: at all, and I felt you got a little kesh 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: it in this one. How did you feel about that? 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: I didn't feel anything about it. I don't think thankful 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: to be a part of it. No, I really mean it. 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm not like a I don't know. I just like 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: but if you just sting that much and not beyond it, 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: not even as you're you irritated, it's odd that you 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: would sing that much and not be featured on the track. Well, 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't in the plan for me to sing on it, 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: because what happened was, um, so Jason Sellers, you know Jason, So, 45 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: like I want to say, it was four or five 46 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: years ago. I just signed my publishing deal and he 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: was like, hey, will you come sing a demo for me? 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, sure, why not? So I went, 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I sang the demo, and then the engineer on the 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: session at the demo, I ended up engineering a lot 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: of stuff for Luke Bryan with Jody and Jeff Stevens. 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: And so when Luke put out crap what was the 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: EP called? It was like farm, Yeah, I think so, 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and it was the You Look Like Rain song. So 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: they called the engineer like they were looking for like 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: a female presence on that song, and they called me 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: because the engineer was like, oh, this girl did this 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: demo for Jesus Sellers an like to voice and so 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: well that's how I talked when I'm impersonating other people. 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: So he was like, um, they called me. I went 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: in and just saying something like background vocals on You 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Look Like Rain. And then when it came time for 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: them to cut hungover in a hotel room. They called 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: me again and said, Hey, I think we're going to 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: get like a pop feature or something on this song, 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: but we would love if you came in and sang 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: in the girl parts so that whoever ends up singing 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: it can hear how it goes. So I was like, okay, yeah, 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: sure whatever. So I went in and I just laid 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: it down. It wasn't like a big deal, and I 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: was like fully expecting for them to just like somebody 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: else was going to re sing it. And then they 73 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: called me one day and said, Yo, we're just gonna 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: keep you on it. Are you cool with it? And 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, sure, why not? It's my 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: only point was and you know my point, and you 77 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: know I would have expected that's a lot, right. Well, 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: it's like fun. I love little things where like nobody 79 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: knows it's cool that I don't care. Well, I don't 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: even know you as an artist, Like I don't do 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: have music. Do you put out yourself? No, I just 82 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: signed a record deal like six months ago. Really we'll 83 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: get to that because I know you was a songwriter, 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: but that was as I was going through stuff. That 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: was what I saw. I was like, I wonder if 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: she's irritated or I wonder if she is not at 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: all all right, I can say I'm on a song 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: with Luke Brian and like it's not I don't know. 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. Let us you wrote sway with 90 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Daniel You're right with daniellet I thought this song kind 91 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: of got screwed over a little bit. I thought I 92 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: got cut a bit early. Yeah, I thought it was 93 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: a jam. Thank you. You and Daniel are friends, Yeah, 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: really good friends. She's like a little sister to me. 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Turn it up a little bit, like she's one of them. 96 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: Whenever people ask me a lot of times they'll say, hey, 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: who are the best singers? She's incredible and she's her. 98 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: And you can probably add to this too, because you're 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: around a lot of these artists and everybody comes mostly 100 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: everybody comes by my room, by my studio and sings 101 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: and performs. Shay, if I were to make a top 102 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: three or four and it's tough, he's unreal, but it's 103 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: Shay from Dan and Shay. Lauren would be up there, 104 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Danielle would be up there and like, someone, let me 105 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: make Stapleton can really sing, but his is so distinct 106 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: and that makes him one of But I would guys 107 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: pure vocalists like who who do you? Who am I missing? 108 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I would put Danielle, Shay and Lauren up there. Yeah, 109 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the cool thing about country music 110 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: is that everybody. I love artists. When you can listen 111 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: to them and you're like, whether they have runs for 112 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: days or not, it's like, oh and that's so and so, 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Like you can tell just about best vocalists vocalist pure 114 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: vocal Carrie, Say Carrie, I mean carry like alien, I say, 115 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: with carry wants and I was like, what, this is 116 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: not even real? Well, yeah, she's so amazing. But I 117 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: personally am a fan of people who have like cool voices, 118 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: Like I love ray Lyn's voice. I think it's like 119 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: a cool voice. But you didn't give me a chance 120 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: to pick cool voices. I just said best pure vocalist. 121 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Best pure vocalists I think are cool. I mean she 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: is incredible, Danielle is incredible. I love writing with Danielle. 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I loved writing with Lauren so much because if you 124 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: thought it, she could sing it, you know what you mean. 125 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: So it was like you wrote next Boyfriend with Lauren R. 126 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Why do you laugh at that. No, it's just like 127 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: so long ago. It's like I kind of forgot and 128 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: so we said it. It was probably five years ago. 129 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: It was like when I first signed my publishing deal. 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Lauren was like the first I'm so grateful for Lauren. 131 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: She was like the first artist. She really let me 132 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: into her world. So she really let me in there. 133 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: And I'll always be super grateful for that because I 134 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: learned a lot from writing with her about being a writer. 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: So what's it like? Um? And I wrote a kids 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: on with Lauren on my kids record. Yeah, and I 137 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: because and I had to sing, and I'm not a 138 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: good singer. I'm gonna I can sing funny that That's 139 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: about it. But Lauren would sing and she would write, 140 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: and she would see she did. I was like, Lauren, 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: I can't do that. You gotta right back into where 142 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: I can sing. Because she was so good just even writing. 143 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Um yeah, Lauren so good? Um? What was my point? 144 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Where was I going with this? Remember? I feel like 145 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I had something good to say? Always pretty good? Camelbao, 146 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: you wrote consequences? I did? Yeah? I mean, youna get 147 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: so paid for this one? Right? Um? It's a pop hit. 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean it'd be really cool. But yeah, I'm amazed. 149 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: I've already even made it to the radio, so I'm 150 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: just happy to have it up there. Do you know 151 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: where this is on the pop chart something? Right now? 152 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: It's on the start now. I think it peaked at 153 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: like in the early I don't know, like twelve paid 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: for that? We would you write? That's a bonus with 155 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: a bonus, it's like your work. Yeah, But like, I 156 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: just love what I do so much. I'm really not 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: shooting you, like, I really just like and me too. 158 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: I love what I do, right, I love but I 159 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: should get paid too because I'm creating something that people 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: buy and you do and it's great. But you're gonna 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: get so paid for that song. I mean I wrote 162 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: it with Nicole yal And and and Amy Watch Whom? How 163 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: do I? Amy Watch what else? Amy wrote? Thinking out 164 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: loud by Edge Hearon. She's like this dope lady. She's 165 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: got like covered in tats, like short, cool hair, a 166 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: couple of kids like super chill. It was really really cool. 167 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Reminds me of like Laura Belts. Yeah, she definitely has 168 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: like a British Laura Belts vibe. How do you get 169 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: involved in a write like this kind of out of 170 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: this Nashville world. M. I guess you trip and fall 171 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: into it. I. Um, I don't know how we got 172 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: hooked up Amy. I write with Nicole a lot. I 173 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: love writing Nicole. She's one of my faves. And so, um, 174 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: my sister probably is pretty good at making me the 175 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: shittiest writer in the room. And your sister because actually 176 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: works with you. She does. Yeah, she um manages me 177 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: and she is the VP of my publishing company that 178 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm signed to you, So um it's just so cool 179 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: having somebody like that in my corner all the time. Um. 180 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I got set up sorry with Nicole and Amy, 181 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: and I almost didn't go that day honestly because, UM, 182 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, tell all, queen, I'll tell anybody anything. You 183 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: can ask you my deepest starker secret, and I would 184 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: probably tell you right now. But um, I just some 185 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: stuff had gone down the day before we wrote that. 186 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: I just have you ever been in a blind rage? No? Well, 187 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: I it wasn't a blind rage. It was like a 188 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: blind shame. I was really ashamed of some stuff that 189 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: have happened that I had happened the day before, and 190 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: so I almost didn't want to go because I knew 191 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: my big fat mouth the second I opened it, I 192 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: would tell them everything. And I was like this that 193 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: one thing I'm not telling anybody. So, um, I remember 194 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: I went in at like noon or one. It was 195 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: like an afternoon, right, and I had never met Amy 196 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: and neither in Nicole, and we go in and um, 197 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: they started talking to each other like Hi, nice to 198 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: meet you, blah blah blah. So I have this one 199 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: idea and da da da, and they're going through it 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there. I remember staring at these 201 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: piano keys, like there's no way in hell I can 202 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: stay here, Like I can't write today, this is not 203 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: going to happen. I'm like praying to God to get 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: me out there, like the power go out or something. 205 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm like about to text my sister to tell her, 206 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: like to call me in thirty and like she's stranded 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. I gotta go get her. 208 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: And um, I just started praying. I'm like, God, get 209 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: me out of here. And I can't tell these girls 210 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: like what's going on with me? And I just heard 211 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: these three words in my head and like I'm not 212 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a hippotie deputy person. But like I definitely they definitely 213 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: weren't me, and I do believe in something bigger than 214 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: me happening all the time. So I just heard these 215 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: three words and it was be a writer, and I thought, 216 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: freaking ship because now I have to tell them, because 217 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: that's what being a writer is, you know. It's like 218 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: sacrificing your pride and your privacy to like say what 219 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: other people can't. And I'm a total like my shame 220 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: isn't my shame, it's like everybody's shame. And I just 221 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: kind of lived that way like with everything, you know. 222 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: So um, I was like, guys, I wud to tell 223 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: you something, and I'm like I saw having my eyes out. 224 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Amy probably thought I was a freaking nut. Soell, Nicole 225 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: is just like it's that gay. And I tell them 226 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have this idea, but like we 227 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: don't have to write it, like don't write it out 228 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: of pity, Like I don't want this to be a pity, right, 229 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: but I have this idea of consequences would be like 230 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: loving you with consequences whatever, And um, They're like, okay, 231 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: we wrote the song in like forty five minutes and 232 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: then we voiced moment it and I didn't think twice 233 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: about it, and then, Um, at the time, I was 234 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: dating another writer in town, Josh Kerr, So I was like, hey, babe, 235 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: will you do this demo for me? Just piano vocal 236 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: real quick? And he said sure, So I did it. 237 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I sent it to Amy and she called us like 238 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: a week later and said, hey, I hope you don't 239 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: I hope you all don't mind. But I sent this 240 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: song to Ed Sheer and and I was like, no, 241 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm pissed to you, and she said he loves it 242 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: but thinks his friend Camilla would die over it, and like, 243 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: do you mind if he sends it to her? And 244 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: is this Camilla's record before she kind of known as 245 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: the solo Waters. I don't even know I Fifth Harmony 246 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: had broken up yet, like we were. I was like, okay, cool, 247 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Like I knew about Fifth Harmony, but I didn't. I 248 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like super clud in to Camilla necessarily, so um 249 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: or Camila, I probably just butchered that, but um, yeah, 250 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: she ended up like recording it. And actually the piano 251 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: that you hear on the cut is Josh's piano from 252 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: the demo. Yeah, so, um so, how long from the 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: day that you wrote it until you heard it fully 254 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: produced with her vocal on it? It was probably Well, 255 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: we wrote it Fall two thousand seventeen. It came out 256 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: January two thousand No I'm an idiot, Fall two thousand sixteen, 257 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: so January two thousand eighteen. It's like a year and 258 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: a half. And it was funny because the first email 259 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: we ever got about it was like, Yo, this is 260 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: going to be single, and really, okay, that's what everybody 261 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: said about everything. That's what I know. We're like, yeah, sure, 262 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: And then for it to actually be single, it was 263 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: really like a cool God moment for me because I 264 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: was like, there's no reason that should be. It's the 265 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: one song on the record that's a ballad number one 266 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: and number two. It's like three writers from Nashville. I 267 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: mean she heard it from them and then she made 268 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: it her own. I mean she wrote on it and 269 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: ended up totally making it her own. And it sounds 270 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: like a Camille song because she put her her whole 271 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Camilla thing on it. But um, I don't know. Every 272 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: time I hear it, I'm like, there's no way that 273 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: should have happened. So I'm like, thanks, I think this 274 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: one good in the shower. You sing it in the shower. 275 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: The only play something good though well acoustics. Yeah, yeah, 276 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: that's cool. So did you when you write a song 277 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: for somebody, especially the pop world, you ever meet him? No? 278 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: Not really. Here in town, you kind of see everybody 279 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: av even if you don't get together, and and even 280 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: if it's not a number one party that would be 281 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Some of my friends had only met the artist, like 282 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: they a Keny song. They were like, only what's he 283 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Kenny at the number one party when he's doing like 284 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: seven at once. But you know, it's a pretty small town, 285 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: so you see everybody. But no, you haven't met Camelli yet. No, 286 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: I haven't met her. So what I heard she's great 287 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: and maybe someday that's the goal. By the way, um no, 288 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Only has the chicklay cup. She hit me 289 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: on Instagram. She was like, do you want chick? And 290 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm good. I might only showing 291 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: up please, I don't want to show up empty handed. 292 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: That's all right. Trisha Yarwood brought Tennessee Whiskey over there, 293 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: and so we just we just let it sit so 294 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: you can leave your cup cool. I'll just leave it 295 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: here in the decay, alright, degradable. How are you feeling 296 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: about the um? You know the big and I mentioned 297 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: getting paid because I think songwriters, I'm a big songwriter 298 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: advocate for forget making money like create and get paid 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: for it because other people are getting paid for it, 300 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Like you write it, you don't sing on other people 301 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: are getting they're on tour. They're getting to sing it 302 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: on tour and making a bunch of money with tickets. 303 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: And you can write a song like Consequences and she 304 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: can make merch off of it, and this isn't a 305 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: bad thing towards the artist. But they can take a 306 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: song and make a hundred thousand bucks off merch of 307 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: a lyric that you wrote and you don't get anything, 308 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Which is why I'm such a big advocate of songwriters 309 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: getting paid. And so right now you're having the issue 310 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: with Spotify and the streaming services that are not wanting 311 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: to compensate songwriters to what songwriters feel is comfortable for them. 312 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: Are you in that in those weeds at all? Um? Yeah, 313 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean I try not to like talk a ton 314 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: about things that I don't know everything about. I'm the opposite. 315 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: I talk a lot about everything I know nothing about, 316 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: so it's good we'll balance each other out. The um. Yeah, 317 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: but I of course I'm a huge advocate for songwriters. 318 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I love songwriters. Um. I spend my every day with 319 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: songwriters and incredible ones who like have these families at 320 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: home and they get up and they go down and 321 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: they write music. And music is everywhere. I mean, it's 322 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: never going away. So I am like, yeah, I'm all 323 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: four songwriters being compensated fairly. I'm not somebody who like 324 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: I want to do what I can. So I definitely 325 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: am starting to get more into the world of like 326 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: getting involved in the side of that where something could 327 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: be done about it and educating myself about it and 328 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Um. For me personally, I don't sit 329 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: it just in on like, not even in a political 330 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: way anymore. I'm I'm talking about when I'm at home 331 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: in my pajamas on the couch, Like, am I stressing 332 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: about it? And no I'm not. But that's not because 333 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't care about it, because I like do I 334 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: think I'm not looking at my bank accounts stressing out 335 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: because I just have this like weird and this is 336 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: a personal thing. It has nothing to do with the issue. Um, 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: I just have this weird confidence that I'm going to 338 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: be fine. And you live with your three sisters, I do, 339 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: you're all splitting rent or mortgage? Yeah, I mean for now, 340 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's the kind of thing where, um, 341 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: I just I'm super tight with my family. We're all 342 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: like single and flirty and fresh and we can. And 343 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm one of six kids. Five of us are girls, 344 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: ones married with a couple, My brother lives up in Virginia, 345 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: and then the other four we live here. Yeah, one 346 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: of them has a serious boyfriend, but the others were 347 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: kind of just you know, riding the wave. What's up 348 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: with your brother? How where was he born? In the Oh, 349 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: he's the baby, he's the baby having babies until they 350 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: had a boy. I mean, I don't know if they 351 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: were really thinking about anything but just doing it. To 352 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: be honest, five girls in a row, like you gotta 353 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: be I mean, well, yeah, I will say my older sister, 354 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: she's my half sister and is from my dad's hole 355 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: back teenage days, so he was a nineteen and she's born. 356 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: She's amazing we're best friends. Um, the other five of 357 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: us that my parents like, we have all of the 358 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: same mom Um. My parents had five kids in five years, 359 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: like to the day, so my brother and I share 360 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: birthday the oldest of the five. Oh yeah, my parents 361 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: loved doing it. They're super in love. They're always making out. 362 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: He's a bail bondsman and so like he kind of 363 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: I was all the time in the world, like when 364 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: he's not. My claim to fame is that I got 365 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: invited to Beth Chapman's birthday party when I was in 366 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: high school. But dog the Bonnie Hunter's wife with the 367 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: big boobies, So like, yeah, that was my total claim 368 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: to fame. So I grew up just around like jails 369 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and my dad kind of could 370 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: work whenever you wanted and so so what are the 371 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: bill body day? Like, Um, well, these days is a 372 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: little different. They're trying to end bail. I'm they're trying 373 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: to replace it with pre trial. But growing up, I mean, 374 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: my dad, he was just home when every wanted. The 375 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: phone would ring constantly and to be like, ha, I'd 376 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: love to get my husband out of jail. He was 377 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: down at the Walmart last night and blah blah and 378 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and so um, yeah, it was cool 379 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: and it was funny because like my dad would he'd 380 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: go to the jail, he'd put up the money and 381 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: then he'd come home or like usually get up in 382 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: the middle of the night and do it because a 383 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: lot of people will get like duys like at eleven PM. 384 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: So he'd be up at like three in the morning. 385 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: But always made sure he was home to take us 386 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: to school because he wanted us to learn the cost 387 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: words from him, not on the bus. Always made sure 388 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: to you know, be home for dinner and be at 389 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: all of our school choir shows or whatever the hell 390 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: he had to be at. And so it was great. 391 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: But we'd come home and they'd be like random people 392 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: like painting the house or something, and I'd be like, Mom, 393 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: who's at She's like, Oh, somebody couldn't pay their bail, 394 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: so your dad just let him paint the house. So 395 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: like half of our house is stone, like it's not finished, 396 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: like half of its stone because he let somebody like 397 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: come and do it. What happened, Only they don't pay 398 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: the bill. Oh that was like a big deal. We'd 399 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: come home and there would be like a pink slip 400 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: on our back door, and we all knew that doubt 401 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: was going to be pistoning out home because the pink 402 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: slip meant somebody skipped court or whatever. So my dad 403 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: gets very passive aggressive about it. He takes to Facebook 404 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: and he'll post like their mug shots and be like, 405 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: there's persons a pub get them back here, Like, yeah, 406 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I'll have to tell you what that is off the 407 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: microphone because it's like three bad words in a row. 408 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: But let's see if we can figure out what you 409 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: want to I'll tell you pussy as bit? Is that 410 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: a common term? No? Honestly, Like, he never used that term. 411 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: My sister's boyfriend taught it to me. No where did 412 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: you grow up? Oh, Virginia? Okay, got it, Virginia thing, 413 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: but I rememb Virginia. No, no, no, no, I'd be 414 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: called it all the time because I am. It is 415 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: an urban dictionary. It tell you. I actually didn't learn 416 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: that one from my dad. It's it's basically what he 417 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: would say. His was a lot more eloquent. He's like, 418 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I learned that from my sister's boy friend, but um, yeah, 419 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: And he would just have to go find him. We 420 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: lived kind of near Quantico, so like sometimes he'd hired 421 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: a couple of marines down at the base to like 422 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: go find somebody. Yeah one time, Oh my god, this 423 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: is so good. I found somebody one time, Like my 424 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: dad would be like, hey, like this is the guy. Like, 425 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: and I remember one time we found like I was 426 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: somewhere and I saw their license plate and it was 427 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: like totally the dude, And so I told my dad 428 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: and we followed him, and it was the whole thing. 429 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: So you knew the license plate, so you're on the lookout. 430 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: Well not the lice plate, but I know what the 431 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: person looks like. So i'd be around town. I'd be like, 432 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: I think that's all. And there was one in particular 433 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: time where like I feel like we followed them down 434 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: to like and it was like, Dad, we got him. 435 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: Did you get the rewards? Like the reward was my 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: dad not having to fork it up. And that's what happens, 437 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: right if they go away, Yeah, they've never seen again. 438 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: Your dad then has to pay the full bail. Yeah, 439 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: basically did you ever have to do that? Um A 440 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: couple of times? Yeah, p ab those paths would you say? 441 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: I would probably say a paby. I feel bad for 442 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: seeing three bad words in a row. I do love Jesus, 443 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: but I also will totally say that whatever. But also 444 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: here's my thing on words. Right. Words are just sounds, 445 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: and if you take I agree who made them bad? Right? 446 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: And not only made them bad, but your location dictates 447 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: what is bad. Because if you get on your airplane 448 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: and let's say you fly east, do you fly over 449 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: over the Atlantic and you land in Italy? Right? Are bad? 450 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Words are the same as they're bad? Not like this 451 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: means f off in London. What you're doing two fingers 452 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: for those that can't see, because literally nobody and I 453 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm not used to radio life yet. Bobby, you're doing 454 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: the peace sign basically, yeah, basically, but when you do 455 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: it with the fingers like facing you, like the nails 456 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: facing the other person. Because somebody said, I was in 457 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: London with my family for Christmas. It's like our new 458 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: tradition to go somewhere instead of like buying each other 459 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that will break or lose by February. 460 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: So um, somebody asked me if I wanted something. I 461 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: forget what it was, and I said, yeah, I'll take two. 462 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: He said no, don't do that. Don't do that. So 463 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: I learned the hard way, and which is my point. 464 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: Even hand signs where if you flip the middle finger 465 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: here and you go to let's say you go west 466 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: to Japan and a lot of our English, a lot 467 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: of our Western culture has been adopted by them. But 468 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: still that is it's not bad, they're they have different. 469 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: So my holding with Carsewards is who cares? It just 470 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: sounds we have an it's our fault. They're bad. So 471 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: my grandma can't listen to this now, So yeah, you 472 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: still call your grandma. I love my grandma. Text three 473 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: yesterday some of the cutest text and your grandma listens 474 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: to all the things that you do. Does she follow 475 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: you Instagram? She follows me on Instagram. Facebook, you wanted 476 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: to less close? I'm not even kidding you. Yes, I'm 477 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: not kidding you. I've had full on Facebook Ward, like 478 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: my family has had full on Facebook words about my 479 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: outfit sometimes because because she says that I'll never get 480 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: a grandma, I love you so much and like, yes, 481 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: you're right, but like you know what she'll say, like 482 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I'll never get a Christian husband if I like am 483 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: wearing that which she's you know, she's my grandma. I 484 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: love my grandma. Is she right? I mean like, Um, 485 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean no, I don't think so. I think I'm 486 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna end up with whoever I'm supposed to end up with. 487 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: Do you believe that everything is set out and you 488 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: must you'll regardless You're gonna fall into the path. Um. 489 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: I believe that God has a thing for my life, 490 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what it is. I'm not like, uh, 491 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm not like a soulmates person necessarily. I'm not like 492 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people who can make 493 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: you happy, agree, And I have trouble with thinking that 494 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: already what's going to happen to me has already decided 495 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: because why so hard? And watch the Madeleine mccainns. Like, 496 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: I believe that we create a own path and hopefully 497 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: we do the best with them. But I just am 498 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: not someone that believes it's all figured out already. Yeah. 499 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I think that's like kind of the beauty of God 500 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: is like we get to choose like what we want 501 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: to do, who we want to hang out with. Like, 502 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. I don't like doing things when 503 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to do them. I just 504 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: can't put my whole heart into something if I feel 505 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: like I have to do it, Like I want to 506 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: be in a situation where I want to, and when 507 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: I do want to, I'm all in and I'm like 508 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: a percent let's go. Um. But I think that's so 509 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: that's why the people that I do love, I love 510 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: them because I want to love them. And I think 511 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: that's like a cool way to love. You know, I'm 512 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: not you know the things I devote my time too. 513 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: I devote my time too because I want to or 514 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: not because I feel like I have to. And so 515 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: I think God's that way too, even like he doesn't 516 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: want us to do things because we feel like we 517 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: have to. I think that takes the beauty out of 518 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: loving God. I think that takes the beauty out of 519 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: um just being on a journey that's full of joy 520 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: and peace and like, I don't know, I think making 521 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: decisions is like such a cool part of being a 522 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: human being. So you don't believe in soulmates? Um? No, 523 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: because what if you're done in India? Yeah, I don't 524 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: believe in So I think that there's like probably several 525 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: people in the world that I could have an incredible 526 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: life with do. I think like my emotions and my 527 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: do I think like everything is kind of gonna going 528 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: to kind of collide when it's supposed to, and I'm 529 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: going to know. Yeah, I do think I'll know when 530 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: it's like the person I want to be with. But like, 531 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that there's like one person out 532 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: there for me. I gotta go find him. I'm kind 533 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: of like doing my thing. 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Remember when Hilary was that you know, 580 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: lady and Bellam I taking a break and she came 581 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: in and she was on my show. We're talking about 582 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: this record, which, by the way, you want to grammy? Right, Yeah, 583 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: do you have a Grammy? Oh? That's cool? Huh where 584 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: is it? It's in my living room, prominently featured. Yeah, 585 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: we take shots out of it sometimes. Really. Yeah, it's 586 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: a Christian Grammy too. That's way. It's so funny. My 587 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: grandma took us shot out of it one time. My 588 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: cool grandma, you know what. And good for her, I know, 589 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: my grandma who doesn't always love my outfits, but I 590 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: love that we can have an open, honest relationship about it. 591 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: And good for you keeping it in the living room. Yeah, 592 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: I do. I keep my mirrable. I know, I saw it. 593 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: I walked in. I'm gonna take a very trendy house, 594 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: by the way. Trendy. Yeah, it's trendy design like it's 595 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: designed very trendy. I change it every three months. You 596 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: do knock it down and build another one. Wait, are 597 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: you serious? Do you think you would knock down the 598 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: house every three months? Well no, I mean, but I 599 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: do like switch out stuff like every three months, like somewheah, 600 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: not like not down a house. Well yeah, whatever. So 601 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: did you go to the Grammys when you want this? 602 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: I did? Yeah. My speech was awful. Wait, so you 603 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: got up and spoke? Was it? It wasn't on television, right, Um? 604 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: It was. It was like the pre telecast. Okay, So 605 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: so everybody's still there and you get up on the 606 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: stage and what do you hear? And went in the 607 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: Grammy for uh, I will Christian song is, Oh my god, dude, 608 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: I literally have it. Yeah, I'll show you real fast. 609 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: It's very accessible. No, this is it? Oh you have it? Okay, 610 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: this is the audio. This is I'm called so bad, 611 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah I did. And I had a cold 612 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: and I was super awkward and like cold and have 613 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: to piece so bad? Yeah, And I was holding my 614 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: phone on the stage. I don't. I looked down and 615 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: I was like what am I doing? And so I 616 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: just kind of like I think, I think Jesus after that? 617 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: And then did Bernie take it? So you had nothing prepared? 618 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: I had not, even Anne, because I also don't prepare 619 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: for those award type things. I have to say something 620 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: because I don't want to. I don't even believe in 621 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: the jinks, but I don't want to take myself don't. 622 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: So I don't. But have a skeleton. You have a 623 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: skeleton of what you're gonna say, no, because I find 624 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: that when I plan what I'm going to say about 625 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: things before I say them, I come off very fake, 626 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 1: like I'm rehearsed, and I just never want to be. 627 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would just rather like go and 628 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: wing it and be myself in the moment, and you 629 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: were absolutely yourself. I was had and Bernie take it away? Yeah, 630 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: thank you Jesus, Bernie take it away. I think it's 631 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: what it was. What about when you came over here 632 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: anything rehearsed and you want You're like, oh, if I 633 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: get into this, it's gonna be good. All right, it's 634 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: all like off the cuff, Dan and Shay make or break. 635 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll hear this, well record was this this last one? 636 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: Are you like holding on that? It could be the 637 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: next single. Things are going to happen as they come. 638 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: I try not to get married to like ideas or 639 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: things like that. It wouldn't be cool. They're killing it. 640 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Would be cool. They are killing it. They've played it, 641 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: they play it live. I've been to their show and 642 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: it goes over great and they sound amazing. I'm super 643 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: super proud of them. I mean, they just work their 644 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: butts off. So I'm just everything they have come into 645 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: them they deserve it. And I'm really really really stuck. 646 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: Do you hop on the road and right with people? 647 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: I have? Yeah, I haven't as much lately. Um, I've 648 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: been shifting my focus to tad Um. Not completely but 649 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: up to this point. But I have and I really 650 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: love it. I really love it. That's where don't get 651 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 1: a bush? Have you? Have you been on the road 652 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: right with God? I think my first time ever on 653 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: the road was Jane Kramer. I'm pretty sure that was 654 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: my first time. But I would go with Danielle out 655 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: with Thomas Rhet, a bunch Um and somebody else. I 656 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: don't remember. Garth, Yeah, totally. The crazy thing about a road, 657 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: like hopping on the road and riding with people is 658 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 1: that let's let's use t r for example. You go 659 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: with Tom Shrett and you're riding and you're right all 660 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: day and then even though he's been writing, he still 661 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: has to go on stage into a full show. Yeah, 662 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: and he's written one, maybe two songs, because you don't 663 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: bring writers out not to write. Yeah, So you'll ride 664 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: and you have the rigs that up in the bus 665 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: and you're riding and you know he's probably not singing fully, 666 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: but he's singing enough inside the right and then he 667 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: has to go into a full show. Yeah, it goes 668 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: that's a full show. And then they'll get off the 669 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: bus and usually do like the vocal for the song 670 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: we wrote that day or something like that. Never have 671 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: any bus rides that kind of turned into cuts? Um yeah, 672 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: actually yeah I have. Um So, there's a song on 673 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: the Daniel Bradberry record. I went on those. It was 674 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: the Suits and Boots tour when it was TR, Brett 675 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: Eldridge and Danielle and um there's a song that Tr 676 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: wrote with me and Daniel on that trip that ended 677 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: up on her record. It's called what Are We Doing? 678 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: And then um, I went out with Tr another time 679 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: and we wrote a song. It's a duet and he 680 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: cut it and with his duet partner and it just 681 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: it hasn't come out yet, so we'll see if it ever. 682 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: Does you say you've you've shifted your focus to what 683 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: singing like cutting a record? Yeah? Yeah. I never thought 684 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: i'd do it. I never wanted to do I refused 685 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: to do it, and now I'm doing it. So I'm like, 686 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: you didn't want to. You don't do things that you 687 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: don't want to do. Yeah, So that's why. Um So, 688 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: I just signed a deal with Warner Brothers and out 689 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: of l A. So it's a pop record, it's not 690 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: a country record. And I what basically happened was back 691 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen. This guy Michael Zondo, Do you 692 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: know him? I don't know him. I know who he is. 693 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: So Mike called me, just cold called me out of 694 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: the blue. And it was November of two thousand and fifteen. 695 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: And I when I saw my publishing deal, I had 696 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: taken it out of like all that language is like 697 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: if she ever becomes an artist, it'll be divided like 698 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Um. I it took a little longer 699 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: to get my deal done because we took all of 700 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: that language out. So we actually had to redo my 701 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: publishing deal when I started talking to Warner Brothers about 702 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: signing a record deal. And um, because I just I 703 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be a badass writer. I just did. Like 704 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: I writing with other artists, I got to kind of 705 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: see their life, and um, you just have to like 706 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: really love what you do to do it, and because 707 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: you hear know a lot. And I just I like 708 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: to be purposeful and what I like to feel like 709 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: I have purpose and whatever I'm doing. So I just 710 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: didn't feel purpose singing songs. There's so much noise out there, 711 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: and like especially a pop record, I just I just 712 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: didn't want to add to the noise. Like if I 713 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: was going to make a record, I wanted to have 714 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: a point of view, I something to say, and I 715 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: just didn't feel like I had that. I felt like 716 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: my purpose was helping other people figure out what that 717 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: was for them. So, um, I just committed to it. 718 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, let's go. I'm gonna 719 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: be the best songwriter ever, let's do it. And um 720 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, Mike called me and said, hey, my 721 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: name is Mike. I'm not a creepers this Emily. I'm 722 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, and he said, yeah, totally, it's good. It's 723 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: a good first line. And um, I I said, uh, hey, 724 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: what's up? Because I heard your voice on a demo 725 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: and I want to make a record with you, Like 726 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: are you down? Like I'll I'm an A and R Warner. 727 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: I'll fly you out. We'll like start just right and 728 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: see if there's anything in there. And I was like, 729 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: it's really nice, but like, I'm not sure that's my vibe. 730 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate it though, And um, I don't know everybody 731 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: in my life who before had been like yeah, artist's 732 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: life not for you, like making a record not for you. 733 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: Let's focus on writing. Um, they kind of just started 734 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: changing their mind a little bit. It was all it 735 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: was weird, like it felt very divine, like how everything 736 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of lined up. All the voices I had trusted 737 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: for so long started saying, hey, like maybe you should 738 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: go and just see if there's anything in there. And honestly, 739 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: it took a year. I went two weeks later. Basically 740 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: I was standing on my story going, I have no 741 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: idea what I'm about to meet or what I'm about 742 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: to walk into. Um was he a creep? Now he 743 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: turned out to be the nicest dude ever. He's we're 744 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: basically family now. Three years later, and um, it took 745 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: me like a year. It was just like at night 746 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: on weekends, I'd go to l a like for a 747 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: week or two every six weeks and just try to 748 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: write songs for me, and it just I would leave thinking, man, 749 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: any girl could sing that and it'd be like cute, 750 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: it'd be cool. But I I hadn't written anything. And 751 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: then I had this really slutty night one night, and um, 752 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: just super not me. I was just in like this 753 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: time of life where I was being a hell bag 754 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: and so I remember member waking up one morning and 755 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: I had like this was like a year after Mike 756 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: had called me. And I woke up and I had 757 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: like four texts on my phone from numbers I didn't recognize, 758 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: being like, Yo, where'd you go? I thought we were 759 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: going to And then um, my sister was pissed at me. 760 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: She's in the other room because I'm sure she had 761 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: to pull me out of some stupid uber the night before, 762 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: like her fun night turned into babysitting me, and so 763 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: she's mad. This is like the third fourth weekend in 764 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: a row I've done this, And I just woke up 765 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: feeling disgusting, like so not myself, like look, and I'd 766 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: kind of given up on writing anything for me because 767 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: it's been I'd tried and it hadn't really happened, so 768 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of put out of my head and I crawled 769 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: her my sister's bed. The next morning, I had my 770 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: tail between my legs and she said, I love you, 771 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: but you got to figure this out. She's like, you're 772 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: ruining our relationship. You need to figure it out. And 773 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: I said okay, and I went home and I called, um, Hannah, Ellis, 774 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: do you know Hannah? I know her. I've played her music. Yeah, 775 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: I called her. She was like my first co write 776 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: when I moved to Nashville ever, and so I don't know. 777 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: I called her for some reason and I said, Hey, like, 778 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: I just need to vocalize something. Could you meet me? 779 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: It was a Saturday. Mama don't work on Saturdays. Mama 780 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: works money through Friday. So I was she was. I 781 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: was like, can you meet me? And she said sure, 782 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: And she met me at like seven pm on a 783 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: Saturday night and we wrote this song and uh, the 784 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: next day we took it to Josh Herr and he 785 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: finished it with us and I didn't even turn it in. Honestly, 786 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: I stuck into my email because my first thought was 787 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: a lady Antebel, I will never cut this like nobody 788 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: in country. Yeah, totally. This Emily Wants means the first 789 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: hit no. Um. It was called things I'm Over and UM. 790 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: I just stuck in my email and I like left 791 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: it there because I figured nobody else would do it. 792 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: And my sister called me a few days later and said, 793 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: what the hell is this song in your email? She 794 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: was like, my sister, yeah, and she knows I don't 795 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: like I'm not great at texting or calling or emailing, 796 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: so she has access to all my stuff. And she said, 797 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: what is this song? And I said, um oh, I 798 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: just needed to like say it, but I nobody will 799 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: ever cut it, so I just I didn't even turn 800 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: it in and she said, yeah, nobody's going to cut 801 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: it because it's yours. And it was the first moment 802 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: where I went, oh, that makes sense. She said at me, 803 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: you gotta try again. So I did, and I I 804 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: just tried to remember where that place was in me 805 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: and going back there, and before I knew it, another 806 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: year went by and I just was sitting on a 807 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: stack of songs that felt like my songs and my 808 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: point of view and something that I had to say. 809 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: And um, I ended up signing with Warner Brothers like 810 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: six months ago. So what does that mean for timeline 811 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 1: of you putting music out? So, um, I actually fight 812 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: out a tomorrow morning, so like meet have my first 813 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: meetings with branding and promo and stuff like that. I 814 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: honestly was in a really incredible position where I didn't 815 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: have a label looking over my shoulder the whole time 816 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: I was making my first record. Because um, I've seen 817 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: that happened to so many people where they signed deals 818 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: and then to me, I had This is honestly the 819 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: first public place I've admitted having a record deal, Like 820 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: I've never posted about it or like really told people 821 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: about it, because I think some people see record deals 822 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: like the end, and I kind of see it as 823 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: the means to the end. Why do people see it 824 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: is the end? Well, I don't know. I think it's 825 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: like a goal for and I think it's an incredible 826 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: goal for a lot of people, like we got a 827 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: record deal, Yeah, we made it. And I think that 828 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: sometimes the record deal is the beginning of the work, um, 829 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: rather than the X on the map. So um, I 830 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: don't know. For me, it was kind of like cool, 831 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: we I signed my deal. It was just me and 832 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: Mike alone, like in his studio. I had my dad 833 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: on face time, like my sister wasn't even there for it. 834 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: It was the most low key moment in my life. 835 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: And um, we started cutting music that day like cool, 836 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: paper stun, let's do it, you know what I mean. 837 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: And that's when we started cutting songs. So um, for me, 838 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: I just got I really got a couple of years too, 839 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: and it's that curse of like my second record, I'm 840 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: not going to have three years to write it, you 841 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like that classic thing 842 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: of you're already worried about the second record and the 843 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: first one is not out yet. Yeah, of course, Um, 844 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: but no, I just know I had I'm really My 845 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: point is that I'm very blessed to have had a 846 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: lot of time to really figure out who I am 847 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: and um, what my music sounds like and what it says. 848 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: And I'm super proud of it. I love it. I 849 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: would buy it if it wasn't mine. I listened to 850 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: it sometimes, and not as my music. I listened to 851 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: it because like I need to hear it, And that's 852 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: how I know a song is mine is when I 853 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: hear it and I got thinks that I needed that. 854 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: Like that's when I know, like that's it, Because you know, 855 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: I'll write these honest songs and turn them in and 856 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: I'll be like, I think this is from my background 857 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: and says, no, it's not for your record, and I'm 858 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: like why but it's so honest and wrong, and she's like, yeah, 859 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: but it's selfishly honest. She's like, it doesn't do anything 860 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: for me. I'm just watching you in your own world, 861 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: like being honest with yourself cool, just like how does that? Like, 862 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: how do I connect with that? And I'm like, oh yeah, 863 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: so it's kind of funny. My A and R team 864 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: is basically my three sisters, and they tell me when 865 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: something sucks and it's kind of funny. Did you always 866 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: want to do this right? Music? YEA forever? Yeah, like 867 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: I has a career. Um, I didn't really know that 868 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: you could. I mean, I'm super tight with my My 869 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: family were disgustingly close. It's disgusting, and um my dad, 870 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: you know those people you have a personality bond with. 871 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: Do you have anybody like that? You're just like the 872 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: same person quietly? Oh yeah, I love it stward, But yeah, 873 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: my sister and my dad have a personality bond, like 874 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: they're the same person. They could look at each other 875 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: and know what they're thinking. And I never had that 876 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: with my dad. Um So I was like, well, my 877 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: dad loves music, so I'm gonna write a song. And 878 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: I did and he cried and it was this big thing. 879 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: It was like it was literally like shooting heroin ors thing. 880 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, love my song, I gotta do 881 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: it again, and so, um yeah, I'd come home every 882 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: day after school. I was like eleven when I started, 883 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: and I would just right for like an hour or two. 884 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: It was like before I did my homework and I 885 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: would show him and be like, oh honey, that's so 886 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: good or oh honey, that could be better. I don't 887 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: really like how blah blah blah, and you gotta think 888 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: about da da da, And he never gave me an 889 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: a when I deserved to see. It was like that 890 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing and so um yeah. Just growing up, 891 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: I was just my hobby and my thing that I 892 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: bought it with my dad about. And then when it 893 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: was time to go to college, everybody was like, you 894 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: gotta go to medical school. My dad would say, you 895 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: can be a doctor writes songs, but he can't be 896 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: a songwriter his doctor. And I was like, okay, yeah, cool, 897 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: yeah dad. Sure. I'm totally a daddy pleaser, like I 898 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: love my dad. And being the oldest, it's like everybody's 899 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: watching you and you want to like do well and 900 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: succeed and not fail because you're setting the time. It's 901 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: like the first um I think growing up I did 902 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: without even realizing it. But we also are all so 903 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: close in age that I definitely was the pioneer woman 904 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: in the sense of like, my first boyfriend was my 905 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: whole family's first boyfriend. You know, my first breakup was 906 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: my whole family's first breakup. Do you do the thing 907 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: where you break up and you write about it, but 908 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: so um specific that it can be tracked back? Um? 909 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: I have been guilty of doing that before. Probably, But 910 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: I also I have got no point where I think 911 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't do it as much now. I still do it. 912 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's who I am. But do people hear 913 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: those ones? Probably not. I'm worried about that a little 914 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: bit on Lindsay's next record, because she was like, do 915 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: you want to hear these songs? Like, nope, put it out, 916 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: don't let me hear it. I don't think it's fair because, 917 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: as someone who loves art more than myself, even I 918 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: would say I don't want you because you would say 919 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 1: you want to hear it. I was like, I don't 920 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: because if I hear it, I'll oh, note, don't put 921 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: that out. So I don't want to hear it. Yeah, 922 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: I think it's just the consequence of dating a writer. 923 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: I've dated writers were there are songs that are specifically 924 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: about me, and I'm like, but there's been consequence of 925 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: dating me, to be fair, because I talk about things 926 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: to millions of people that she probably was like, are 927 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: all my any girlfriends or anybody that I dated? But 928 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to pat myself on the back here one 929 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: more time that I said, do not send me this song. Hey, 930 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: it's the world. Everybody take note, because I will veto 931 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: this and so her next record. I know she's just 932 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: but we had a we had a really good relationship. 933 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: There was no cheating, there's nothing we broke up. But 934 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be some stuff about me. I know. 935 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: One was the title one of the titles to Get 936 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: Over Yourself. So I'm just sitting here and going, oh 937 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: my God. And her and I are still cool, We're 938 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: still closer many times. But I'm just like, God, but 939 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: what you dated a song? And I know Josh, your 940 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, has he written about you and songs and 941 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: other artists have sang um. I don't know if the 942 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: world's heard any of them. I've heard I've heard things. 943 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: It makes you feel blank, it makes me feel huh. 944 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: I think I'm never like I don't always feel one 945 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: thing about everything. I feel like probably four different things 946 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: about it. One, I'm pumped for him. Then he got cut. Like, honestly, 947 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 1: I know, that's like really cool, especially when something's super 948 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: personal to you and then another artist relates to enough 949 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 1: to want to cut it. I think it's really cool. 950 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: So pumps for them, but also like that's awkward where 951 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: it's their perspective, it's not even my Yeah, like it's 952 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: your side of the story. Isn't necessarily there. But then 953 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: I have to go, well, okay, I'm like, how many 954 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: times have you done that to somebody? So I can't 955 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: really complain about it. And at the end of the day, 956 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: it's like, damn whatever. The people need to know no, 957 00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: and like nobody cares. Yeah, honestly, nobody cares. It's see 958 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: me thinking about it. Like the general population that consensus 959 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: doesn't care about anything anymore. It's such a niche striman 960 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: society that we're in now, and so at times, even 961 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 1: with people that get in trouble for like controversial things, 962 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: it just goes by. It's quick and unless you're Michael Jackson, 963 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: you know or something. Did watch Did you watch that? 964 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: I watched it literally yesterday. This is fresh for me. 965 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: It was dark. It was so hard to watch because 966 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: it was so graphics, so graphic, and it was I 967 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: was shocked at how graphic it was, but like I 968 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: appreciated it, but I was definitely shocked. To me, it 969 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: was easier to watch the Ted Bundy tapes where the 970 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 1: dude chops up adults than it was so much easier 971 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: here about Michael Jackson molesting young boys. It was it's 972 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: like it just it's one of those things makes you 973 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: a man. Evil's real. It was, you know, I wish 974 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: here's the thing that was because I believe the guys, 975 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: but I wish he were alive to defend himself. And 976 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: also he went to court twice and was quoted twice. 977 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: There's just a lot of things that since he's dead, 978 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: you just wish he could say something back because again 979 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: talking about one side and I believe them, but I 980 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: just wish for for the fairness part of it, that 981 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: he was able to come and go whatever. However, what 982 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna say, But yes, it's hard to watch. It's 983 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 1: really hard to watch. But I will to your point. 984 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: I will say, my sister and I like whenever we 985 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: get on something, we get on it, like when we 986 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: watched Boheman Rhapsody. I mean, there was nothing but Freddie 987 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: Mercury streaming, like interviews streaming through my house for like 988 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: two weeks. So we watched a bunch of interviews after 989 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: and I think the director of the movie said that 990 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: this particular like film was about these two guys stories. 991 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: So like, because I know a lot of people have 992 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: been saying like what you were just saying about like 993 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: always not here to define himself and blah blah blah, 994 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: and it's definitely like a one sided situation. But when 995 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: you do look at like, it is what it is. 996 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: It's a movie about these two guys. And so I 997 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't know I which two guys, Freddie and 998 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: Brian May No, um, I'm talking about leaving Michael Jack 999 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Wade and these two guys. The two yeah, yeah, the 1000 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: two boys. I just always have to mention Freddie and 1001 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: Mercury somewhere. I loved it. It's the only movie ever made. 1002 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I thought it was pretty good. It's 1003 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 1: so good. I'm such a I'm one of the guys 1004 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: that hold wait, hold on, let me state my opinion. Okay, 1005 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I get really pumps about it. I thought 1006 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: it was good. I'm a huge Queen fan that I 1007 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: think there are only a couple of artists that if 1008 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: created today, would still come out in kind of pierce 1009 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: our consciousness of oh this is cool. Like if Queen 1010 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: existed today for the first time, we would go, oh, 1011 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: there sounded so different. We like them today, not because 1012 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: they were Queen, not because they have a history. We 1013 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: just go, oh, they're distinct and they're different like today. 1014 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: That the other the only other one is Biggie because 1015 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: I think his Oh did you watch that? I really 1016 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: like that? Which one there's like nine I want about 1017 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: him in Tupac on Netflix is yeah, I think it's unsolved. 1018 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: I see that up in the feet. No, let me finish. 1019 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: The thing about Human Raapsody that didn't like was it's 1020 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: a movie, and in a Hollywood movie, they've got to 1021 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: just gloss and jump right. So it's like, Freddie, you're 1022 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: sawn a record deal. No, no, even let's go before that, 1023 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 1: there's a band playing on stage and it's like, you, guys, 1024 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to to sing for your band. Next thing 1025 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, they're on the BBC plane like three minutes 1026 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: later and it's just now and I understood why, but 1027 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: as someone who just is such a music geek, I 1028 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 1: wanted there to be a little more of that struggle. Um, 1029 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: but I did enjoy the movie. But then it goes, 1030 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: we're playing on first BBC show. You just signed a 1031 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: deal eighteen seconds ago before that, you just met, Like, 1032 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: did you have these problems with unity? Yeah? I think 1033 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: some of it wasn't even like, but don't. I'm okay 1034 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: with that. Okay, that's the stunme that kind of got 1035 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: me from it. I'm okay with that because it's a 1036 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: movie and I go into it. If a documentary, I 1037 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: would be upset, And a documentary if it's true, I'm 1038 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 1: like this bull crap. I just Wikipedia, and I believe 1039 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: everything Wikipedia says, so you're wrong. It was very quick 1040 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: in the beginning, and it kind of slowed down and 1041 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: it was like, I'm Freddie, I have big teeth. It's 1042 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: now time little fair or whatever. Very fair, very fair 1043 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: commentary on the movie. That being said, I did like 1044 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: the movie, and I thought it was cool that a 1045 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: bunch of people like yourself were exposed to Queen. Oh, 1046 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Um. I was a Queen fan 1047 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: in the sense of like I knew some of their 1048 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: songs and I I really liked them. I knew the 1049 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: words and whatever. But I think that, especially at the 1050 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 1: place I'm in, of like having just signed a record 1051 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: deal and well then you immediately should be hosting a 1052 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: big festival in like seven minutes BBC at But um No, 1053 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: I think it was more of like just be yourself 1054 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: and like who cares if people like it or don't 1055 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: like it. I think it was like that whole concept 1056 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: or theme I guess through the movie that just really 1057 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: inspired me to just, you know, when somebody doesn't like something. Okay, 1058 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: here's my shortcut to people, because I tell them we 1059 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: spend all of our young days trying to fit in. 1060 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: Younger days twenties, thirties, we do. We spent all of 1061 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: our time going, I just want to fit in. I 1062 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: just I want to be cool and fit in. And 1063 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: then once we figure out, oh this is the thing, 1064 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: we spend the rest of our life trying to be different. 1065 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: So you can kind of get a had start on 1066 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: that by going, you know what, I just want to 1067 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: be different, but it's cool to be different. I'm just 1068 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: gonna be me even if it's different. And we spent 1069 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: all of our youth going I want to fit in. 1070 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: I want to fit in and I want to fit in. 1071 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 1: And there's a point where you do make that pivot 1072 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: where you go, oh, I want to be different. So 1073 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: as long as you know that it's coming, you can 1074 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of prepare yourself for it. I mean, I've always 1075 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: just been weird. I've tried to fit in. I'm still 1076 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: trying right now, not really much longer. On what's your 1077 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: biggest insecurity? I have the chest of an I loving 1078 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: year old boy. Are you serious? Yeah, that's really what 1079 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: it is. It's one of them. Sure, um, physically, sure, okay, wow, 1080 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: I like this. Let's play it physically and then emotionally 1081 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: or like mentally, I think emotionally. You know, I grew up. 1082 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: I grew up. We had a pretty hard you know, 1083 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: grow It's tough. I had a tough background, so I 1084 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: and I was never really loved as a kid. My 1085 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: mom was an addict. My dad and I never knew 1086 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: my dad. Mom died. So now it's like, and I ever, 1087 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: like I'm really insecure about like do people really like me? 1088 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: Especially now as I become get bigger and you go 1089 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,760 Speaker 1: from radio to like a national already show to television 1090 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: like do people even like me or they just like 1091 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: what I do want to hang around me. So I'm 1092 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: really insecure about that new people. That's like super fair 1093 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: though really I don't like new people until I love 1094 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: new people. And it's hard to get in that. It's 1095 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: hard to get in like my little circle, not because 1096 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm cool, because I don't trust very well. I'm super 1097 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: insecure that that people don't like me. Do you ever 1098 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: have imposter syndrome? Though not ever have it? I'm I 1099 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: live it every day. Like you don't feel like you're 1100 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: as cool as everybody thinks you are, and it's like 1101 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: or as talented, yeah, a hundred percent, Like like you 1102 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: don't feel like you deserve to be there even though 1103 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody else does constantly, And so then you just kind 1104 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: of like and I feel guilty to two things. So 1105 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: I do. Um. The last year and a half, I've 1106 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: spent doing theater stand up, and I've been and these 1107 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: shows would sell out two thousand people there. I'd be like, 1108 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not even that funny. The people 1109 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: pay fifty bucks a ticket to come watch would be 1110 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: not that funny. And then I'll go out and like 1111 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: the show us great. I was like it wasn't really, 1112 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 1: and I always feel guilty. The my my band have 1113 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: a comedy band, and we played in Boston Saturday night, 1114 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: Sunday night. Yeah St Patrick's date Chef. We played the 1115 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: theater in Boston. And I have friends that are really 1116 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: great artists. They can't sell near the tickets that we sell, 1117 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: and I feel so guilty because of it. I stopped 1118 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: playing festivals for a long time because we could play 1119 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: like faster horses and we would be it would be 1120 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 1: like Luke Old Dominion and Us and then yeah, we'd 1121 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: be we'd be playing at night and I would be 1122 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: like this is and I would apologize. I would go 1123 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: to people They're like, guys, I'm so sorry. I know 1124 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,280 Speaker 1: we're not that good with my friends that are in bands. 1125 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: So yes, I feel like my analogy as always that 1126 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like robbing banks and eventually the cops are 1127 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: gonna catch me. Like how long can I literally rob 1128 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: these banks until the cops catch up with me? That's 1129 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: the impostor that I feel like I have books read 1130 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: a couple of books even that good. They say that crazy, 1131 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't. I never want people to read them. 1132 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: I'm like Oh, I don't know if you should read it, 1133 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 1: because you're gonna spend you know, four or five days, 1134 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: two weeks, depending how fast you read and trying not. 1135 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: So the answer is yes, and you're just like living 1136 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: your life for that one more where they're going to 1137 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: realize you're just not And I won't even be surprised. 1138 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: I think I might be relieved when they're finally like, yeah, dude, 1139 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: you do suck. I'm like, thank you, Holy crap, do 1140 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: you have it? You feel imposter Yeah, especially with the 1141 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: Grammy sitting in my living room. For sure. It's funny 1142 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: that because I don't see you as an impostor, because 1143 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: I also not only do I am I sitting with 1144 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: you now hearing you talk, but like I know really 1145 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: talented people that say wonderful things about you. Well that's 1146 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: very nice. Like that makes my day. Yeah, Like the 1147 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: general consensus is that you're super quick and you're a 1148 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: great writer, and so for you to go I think 1149 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: I have a post syndrome to me seems nuts. Well 1150 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: me looking at it seems nuts. I guess it's just 1151 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: something that it's that moment where you're like, oh, maybe 1152 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: we're not all that different. I definitely deal with imposter 1153 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: syndrome in what ways. Um let's do Let's do um 1154 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: emotionally first, Okay, go ahead, I just ran through this, 1155 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: so you see your turn. No, I know, I know 1156 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: it's only fair. Um. Emotionally, I think my biggest insecurity 1157 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: is I'm so afraid of being an almost girl, an 1158 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: almost girl, mean almost girl, like ah, and like your 1159 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: song almost went number one, but it like it was 1160 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: really good, but it wasn't good enough to actually like 1161 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: go all the way. They're like, oh yeah, and that 1162 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: guy almost picked you, but like if this and this 1163 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: was different, he would have really like no, just in 1164 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: a sense of like pick you to do what though 1165 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: like in your head them or whatever, like relationship like 1166 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, like just being almost good and 1167 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: like really good being Really I think I'm really good 1168 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: at what I do. I think I'm I like myself 1169 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot. I really do. It's like I'm somebody use 1170 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things, Like I'm super confident, but I'm 1171 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: also like insecure for sure. I'm I totally know who 1172 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: I am. I also have no clue who I am. 1173 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm like a different girl every day, but that's I 1174 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: think that's normal. But totally. I can like thrive in 1175 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: that condition because I think I've spent a lot of 1176 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: my life trying to like I'm this girl and I'm 1177 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: that girl, or because you want to make sense of 1178 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: yourself and you want to fit in and you want 1179 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: to belong, and then you get to a point where 1180 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: you're like, um, that and I'm that, and I'm that 1181 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: and I'm that and that's okay and that's yeah exactly, 1182 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: And I'm totally cool with being all of those things 1183 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: for whoever I need to be those things for. And 1184 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't make me an authentic, but I think generally 1185 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 1: more for me, it's like being really good but not 1186 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: good enough, like almost And what will change it for you? 1187 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: Because I found all the accolades in the world has 1188 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: a change crap for me? No, definitely therapy, I mean 1189 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: that that helps. Therapist won't see me anymore. Well, like 1190 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: she she said, I had got I'd reach like a 1191 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: really healthy place. She said that, she said, you're fixed. 1192 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think you can ever fix 1193 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: I know. I literally went home and I was like, an, 1194 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: I have to have problems. It's like what makes me thrive? 1195 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: So um, it was a really sad day, but she said, 1196 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: somebody you will have a new set of problems and 1197 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: we'll have to work through those, but take a break. 1198 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: So okay, because I feel like I got therapy. I 1199 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: was starting to make up stuff to talk to her 1200 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: about and she goes, why do you like talking to me? 1201 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: I said, because you get me. You just get me. 1202 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: Nobody gets me. So I just was at this point 1203 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: paying somebody to get me. Sometimes they would cancel. That's weird. 1204 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: I know she's super nice though, and low key. I 1205 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: want to be your friend to go get a drink 1206 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: with her, and she says she's this two year policy. 1207 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of low key, like down to not 1208 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: see her anymore and just like wait two years and 1209 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: then just say, yo, you want to go get a beer? 1210 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I think you'd be fun. Okay. So that's that is 1211 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: your insecurity. Yeah, and mostly almost being an almost girl. Um. Yeah. 1212 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: And to answer your other question, like, I don't think 1213 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: anything is going to fix it. I think it's something 1214 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I'll always struggle with, but I do. I'm I'm a 1215 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: big believer in like of the rule. I'm a Jesus girl. 1216 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: I love Jesus and like he I'm a psychopath, like 1217 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm a psycho, so he kind of just keeps me 1218 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: in check. Like that personal relationship I have there, it 1219 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: just kind of keeps me like at Bay. So yeah, 1220 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: I am an almost girl, but like my relationship with 1221 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 1: there and makes up for it in terms of my 1222 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: peace and my confidence with it and that whole thing. 1223 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't believe that it's a fix. I joke about that, 1224 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: like I don't. I just think the being able to 1225 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 1: know yourself is the fix. I think being able to 1226 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 1: know that. And I'll give you a story. I wrote 1227 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: some really personal stuff in my first book about my 1228 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: mom dying and be an addict and some crazy stuff 1229 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: that we went through, and I thought to myself, I 1230 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: don't want people to feel sorry for me. I don't 1231 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: want um. But what I realized was that a lot 1232 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: of people related to what I was saying, and I 1233 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't need to be fixed because then I realized everybody's 1234 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: broken in some way, and if we're all broken, are 1235 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: we even broken? We're not broken? No, I think we 1236 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: were made to be that way. That's really you know 1237 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: what what hit me when I started really and I 1238 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: share on the radio things at times where people like, oh, 1239 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: that's a lot. But I wrote some stuff I wrote 1240 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: my book. I was like, oh, I don't know. But 1241 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: then what it really hit me was, oh, normal is abnormal. 1242 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: You know, we always feel like we're different and things 1243 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: are working out for us, but that's normal. That's everyone. 1244 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: They're just not sharing it, so you don't know and 1245 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: you feel so alone. And I've felt like I at 1246 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: least for a bit, for a little blip for maybe 1247 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: a few people was they were able to read it 1248 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: and go, oh, I don't feel so alone if Bobby's 1249 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,919 Speaker 1: having this this struggle and that's why I like doing 1250 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: what I do, or at least part of it. So 1251 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: and it's cool that you're willing to because I know 1252 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't. And um, I think that's 1253 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the beauty of having jobs like ours, you know, yeah, 1254 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: the beauty and the struggle. Yeah. Oh, it's a total 1255 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I feel like we're all living in this constant gray 1256 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: area as like, you know, trying to figure out to 1257 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: be that for other people but also be healthy versions 1258 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: of ourselves and so it's a total balanced thing. But 1259 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think we're all just kind 1260 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: of made to fall short. And for me, that's I'm 1261 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: cool with it, you know what I mean, especially when 1262 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: I my faith kind of makes up for that for 1263 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: me in the sense of, yeah, whatever, I'll embrace it. 1264 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: I was made to not being I've I've was. I 1265 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: was made to be an almost girl. But I can 1266 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: have peace and joy with that. Did you write today? Um? No, 1267 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I had a day off. It's two day. You had 1268 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: a day off, mom, and I work on Tuesday. Moment 1269 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: will work on tuesdays before least on Wednesday morning at 1270 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: six thirty five. Decided about that out tomorrow. Yeah, I'm excited. 1271 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited. No, my whole record is Nashville written. Um, 1272 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: Nashville is authentic to me. It's my family, it's my 1273 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: my friends. I it would be really unauthentic at this 1274 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: point in my life to go to decide to make 1275 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: a pop record and then go to l A and 1276 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 1: right with a bunch of people who have never met 1277 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: me and just have their like finger on the pulse 1278 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: of the current trends and um, I don't know. I 1279 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: just I wanted my record to be true, and I 1280 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: wanted it to um be authentic to me. Whatever that 1281 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: it's an extension of me and music, So I needed 1282 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: to do that with people who knew me and that 1283 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I knew you could deliver that truth in a way 1284 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: that I know and trust and love and admire respect. 1285 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: So it's like a pop record, but it's like chok 1286 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: full of great Nashville songwriting and songwriters and to be 1287 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: able to share that with Nashville is really really really cool. 1288 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'll stay here. I'll probably get old 1289 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: and saggy and have a bunch of babies here someday. 1290 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: So I got a bunch of kids, um yeah, I 1291 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: mean I grew out on one of six, so like 1292 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't see myself having one kid. But honestly, this 1293 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: has really been like I'm a heart lately. I think 1294 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: I want to adopt my Amy, my best friend, my 1295 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: cost adopted two kids from Haiti. Really, I just think 1296 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful thing. And for me, I think 1297 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: that I would love to adopt kids out of um 1298 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: like older kids. I just for some reason, um yeah, 1299 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: I like got caught up watching some videos the other 1300 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: night of these like eight and nine ten year old 1301 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: kids being told they're going to be adopted, and it 1302 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it made me bawl my eyes out. 1303 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: It was like the most incredible thing, like these kids 1304 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: who think nobody wants them because they all they all 1305 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: want these babies, which is beautiful. I'm not knocking it, um, 1306 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: but I don't know what kind of really like touched me. 1307 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: And what I really connected with was seeing all these 1308 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: kids who are just maybe older. And she got a 1309 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: year ago and Amy's son is seven. Beautiful, that's amazing. 1310 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Look at you. We've been this hour, an hour into this. 1311 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 1: Anything anything you'd like to to put out there before 1312 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: we wrap it up, um, go ahead? Stage is mine. 1313 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Um No, I just I love what I do, and 1314 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: thank you for having me and Mike. Your hair is 1315 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: dope than I love Mike's hair. Changes it. It was 1316 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: orange and it was red and I'm so colorblind. It's 1317 01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: all the same to me. No, and also I really 1318 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 1: appreciate how much do you support songwriters and new artists too. 1319 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: I just think it's really really really cool for those 1320 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: people that have somebody like you in their corner. So thanks, 1321 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: thank you for that. And you're a great interviewer, great questions. 1322 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: We didn't record any of this, This was just us talking. 1323 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: We're going to actually started now cool, I'm down, now, 1324 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm warmed. Up Good episode one sixty six Emily Wise Band. 1325 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: You can follow on Instagram at Emily Wise Band w 1326 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: E I S B A N d UM And there 1327 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: are some pictures there that our grandma doesn't approve of. 1328 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: I love my grandma. My grandma is one of my 1329 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: favorite people. I just had to say it. Let me 1330 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 1: say this about about your Instagram. I don't follow you. 1331 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: I should follow you, but I don't follow you. I 1332 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: have trouble taking like some of the pick we do 1333 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: know what you mean here we go like, it's hard 1334 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: for me to sit because it looks like you're taking 1335 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: some of these pictures, like you just set the phone 1336 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: up and then you just like do something hot and 1337 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 1: just sit there, and then you write, I have trouble 1338 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: taking those kind of pictures. And I'm not hot but too, 1339 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: it's just a lot of me. I just let me. 1340 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: I'll teach you. It's actually super easy. Let me let 1341 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: me pull up your profile here. I was reading one 1342 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,439 Speaker 1: of your because Emily and I will message occasionally. We've 1343 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 1: never met, but we message occasionally. There was one of 1344 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: them recently where you were like, hey guy, and what's 1345 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: the orange theory? Orange theory? I was gross and sweaty earlier. 1346 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: But this is how hot I really and I laughed. 1347 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. But I just I wouldn't 1348 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: have that. I wouldn't have that in me. I mean yeah, 1349 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm just whatever whatever. I ever 1350 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 1: hit you up. No, No, that's probably why. If I 1351 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: actually thought he would, I wouldn't have posted it really embarrassing. 1352 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Would No, I'm just kidding, I probably would have. I honestly, 1353 01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: my Instagram is like, I'm a very open person. Every 1354 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: one of my siblings has my Instagram on their phone. 1355 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: None of my sisters have social media. They're all logged 1356 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: into mine, so they like keep track of my graham 1357 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: all the time, Like why do you pose that you 1358 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: look like an idiot? Blah blah blah. So yeah, I mean, 1359 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I I don't know. I'm just kind of like I've 1360 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: had fun with instim. I thinks I'm super fun. You know. 1361 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: I wish I had the confidence to like get in 1362 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: my panties because I wear panties too, Like you know, 1363 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 1: today I was looking at the moon. I do try 1364 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 1: to like just be like you also do funny ones. 1365 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: I do do my face a lot. Some people love it. 1366 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Some people hate it, but whatever, Like, for example, hey, 1367 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: we're on the radio, Bobby. Nobody can see this, I know, 1368 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: but they can go to your page and see it. Okay, 1369 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: like this is the one hey orange theory. Boy, here's 1370 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: me not red and blotchy and hiding from you. And 1371 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: you have on a denim jacket and you don't even 1372 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,759 Speaker 1: have a shirt underneath it. It It looks basically, it looks 1373 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: basically like you have a piece of toilet paper wrapped 1374 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 1: around your waist. You're getting a lot of fa but 1375 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: I could you know what what's up? I liked the pictures. 1376 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 1: I think you know what I Nothing I've said has 1377 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 1: been I know you've been very supportive of it. I 1378 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: admire the fact it's funny. I want to know, how 1379 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to do you see this picture you're in like a 1380 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: panty short with a bow in your hair. Yeah. And 1381 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 1: I was on St. Patty's Day and I said nope, no, 1382 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 1: no pinches for me. And my dad commented on it 1383 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: superstar and I called my dad. I was like, Dad, 1384 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 1: thank you for being supportive of my sketchy Instagram And 1385 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 1: he's like, well, honey, when you look that good, I 1386 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: mean whatever, I have to be. I love you. I 1387 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: love you. Thanks Dad. Say Jojo? Is you know Jojo? 1388 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: She commented on your Instagram. Yeah, we met right now, 1389 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: it's the end. I love her. She's one of my 1390 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: favorite people in the world. She's looking she's like a 1391 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,919 Speaker 1: wise old owl. You'd expect her to be this like punky, 1392 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 1: like get out right now, like she was when she 1393 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: was nine. Let's leave, I know, and but she's so 1394 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: like well spoken and beautiful and just wise and I 1395 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 1: love being around her. We met it um the as 1396 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: cap Castle as cap does this writing trip to France 1397 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: every year. Um for this as cap Castle France. I'm 1398 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna follow you right now, goes follow me. I'll follow 1399 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: you back. I'm gonna publicly follow you. All right. I'm 1400 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: so honored right now, Um, Emily Wise man might de 1401 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: anything you'd like to say. We're good. See this started 1402 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,679 Speaker 1: pretty like professional and straightforward, and then I like where 1403 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 1: it went, like the second half like this part yeah, 1404 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 1: the part two of this. You know a little bit 1405 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: of everything. But we've never met, so all right, Emily 1406 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Wise met episode one sixty six, thanks to our sponsor, 1407 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time here on the Bobby Cast. 1408 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 1: Thank you.