WEBVTT - All New Federation in 2025? 

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to Universal because they were losing I knew

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be losing Monday Night Raw even back then, because

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<v Speaker 1>we know shit, even though we can't talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. They were similarly wanted something more established,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I was brand new there. I wasn't coming

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<v Speaker 1>in with somebody else's promotion, and that became the speed bump.

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<v Speaker 2>That I hit time and time and time again. Ladies

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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Ready's about to hit the fan? Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>on sanctioned Thursdays are wrestling?

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<v Speaker 2>What's ready? What's up? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to unsanctioned Thursday, and we're getting ready to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty twenty four. We'll talk about my year just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, not even we might not even talk wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll talk a little wrestling because we got big

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<v Speaker 1>move from Monday Night Raw leaving the USA Network and

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<v Speaker 1>joining Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope all of you have Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, they're counting on you to become a subscriber

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<v Speaker 1>so the Netflix can remain the powerhouse juggernaut that it

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<v Speaker 1>is and their executives can get twenty two million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>bonuses instead of putting that money into the budgets for movies.

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<v Speaker 2>And wrestling and TV and things like that. What, Freddie,

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<v Speaker 2>you're exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 1>What No, I'm not Anyway, WW is gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money for Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to bring a shitload of people over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not surprised that they're leaving because USA just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't compete price wise with what they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get paid by Netflix. USA is a cable network on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, satellite TV and cable.

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<v Speaker 2>But streaming is is the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Streaming is the now, and all that satellite and cable

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<v Speaker 1>shit is the past.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just hanging on.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, you go on Serious XM and you

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<v Speaker 1>can listen to the seventy station, but there's a seventy station, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>seventies meeting one seventies station. There's about forty different pop stations,

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<v Speaker 1>forty different rock stations. Like it's you know, the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>are what they are. I love them. My cars are

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<v Speaker 1>from the seventies and the sixties. Well, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>new car. You guys, got a sixty nine two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dots in roadster. Been this thing's been getting worked one

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<v Speaker 1>for over a year. Finally got the clutch disc fixed,

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<v Speaker 1>replace the front shocks, just waiting on carpet that goes in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording this on a Monday, so it's going in

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<v Speaker 1>today Wednesday. The car will be ready. I'll post pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of it. She's cherry red convertible. I may even keep

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<v Speaker 1>the hood off. Now it's wintertime, I'll probably put the

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<v Speaker 1>hood back. I'll put her clothes on. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>legal to be topless out here. I'll post some photos

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<v Speaker 1>on my Instagram. It's real Freddie Prinz. It's just real

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy Prince. Yeah, you guys got to check that car out.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so, yeah, I didn't think USA would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to afford them. They're going to Netflix. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be at that debut show, so look for me

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<v Speaker 1>in the crowd. I'll be the one with the sign

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<v Speaker 1>that says, look it's me Freddy Prince.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know I won't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing my kids and stuff like that, So if

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<v Speaker 1>I see you there, i'll definitely say hi, but I

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<v Speaker 1>won't be able to stop and take photos. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to look after my kids and take care of my

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<v Speaker 1>kids and stuff like that. But I'll definitely return any

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<v Speaker 1>love that you share. If you want to yell you

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<v Speaker 1>suck in front of my kids. You could do that too,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna hear it back. And I talk shit

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<v Speaker 1>better than most, so you better come correct. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the year I went through some friggin

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<v Speaker 1>ups and downs wrestling wise. I've been trying to start

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<v Speaker 1>my own federation for a long time, my own promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>It started off this reality company came and pitched this

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<v Speaker 1>like docu series to me of me trying to pull

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<v Speaker 1>this off, with the final episode being sort of what

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<v Speaker 1>we call a backdoor pilot, so the last episode would

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<v Speaker 1>become the first episode of the new promotion that goes

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<v Speaker 1>a backdoor a backdoor pilot, so that was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the hope and goal for it. I had some interest

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<v Speaker 1>from Vice, who couldn't afford it, and they're restructuring their

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<v Speaker 1>finances and their entire company. I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be a Vice in a couple of years. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they're because they do Dark Side of the Ring

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<v Speaker 1>and seem to have some love for wrestling. They admittedly said,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know anything about wrestling, but we like the

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<v Speaker 1>business and we want to be in business, and they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make it work, but couldn't Warners wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to be way Warner Discovery wanted me to me to

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<v Speaker 1>be way more established and only focused on the reality

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the of the pitch that they just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show, which I wasn't interested in, and the

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<v Speaker 1>things they pitched there like it needs more like people

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<v Speaker 1>working against you. I was like, I know, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pull this off. I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>people working against me. I'll have enough of that already.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all they wanted was like fake created drama, which

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<v Speaker 1>is such horseshit. That's why reality TV sucks because none

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<v Speaker 1>of it's real. So that was a pass on my side.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else was there? We talked to Universal because they

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<v Speaker 1>were losing I knew they'd be losing Monday Night Raw

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<v Speaker 1>even back then because we know shit, even though we

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<v Speaker 1>can't talk about it on the podcast. They were similarly

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<v Speaker 1>wanted something more established, and again I was brand new there.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't coming in with with somebody else's promotion, and

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<v Speaker 1>that became the speed bump that I hit time and

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<v Speaker 1>time and time again until the point where I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to my partners at the place where I have basically

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<v Speaker 1>a distribution deal although not in writing, but the two

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<v Speaker 1>of us, my partner who is the streaming service, and

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<v Speaker 1>myself are now to the point where we're actively looking

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<v Speaker 1>for other well known promotions that I can then come

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<v Speaker 1>in creatively and help direct and build, you know, culture

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<v Speaker 1>and present to a mainstream TV audience. Right helped them

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<v Speaker 1>get on track. It wouldn't per se, it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>my idea, per se. And I'm not trying to change

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<v Speaker 1>someone's brand. Let's just make up a wrestling company's name

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. Let's say we acquired ICW, right is, which

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<v Speaker 1>is International Competitive Wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the name of this one ICW.

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably actually an ICW out there, so if there is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm not trying to blow you up. I

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<v Speaker 1>would then go in and acquire their contracts, their brand,

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<v Speaker 1>their ring, their their content, their everything. Although the content

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<v Speaker 1>on low budget stuff isn't really presentable for TV, so

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<v Speaker 1>those libraries don't have the value that these guys hope

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<v Speaker 1>that they have just because the quality won't match. I

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<v Speaker 1>would then go in there, bring them in and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of calling them what I was going to call my profession,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's disrespectful to just take their shit and change it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just maintain their name and I would become

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<v Speaker 1>their head of creative and help sort of reguide and focus,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and do what I did well in WWE

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<v Speaker 1>into their promotion and then make that our promotion. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I'm at now. That's the most information I

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<v Speaker 1>can give and just well, no, it's not. That's been

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<v Speaker 1>a freaking challenge too. I've already tried with one that

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<v Speaker 1>I was really passionate about, really like their roster, loved

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of their wrestlers. It just fit so well

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<v Speaker 1>with what I was trying to do, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't freaking make a deal work. It wasn't their fault,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't our fault. It's just sometimes you can't come

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<v Speaker 1>up with with the right numbers that everybody feels comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what a negotiation is.

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<v Speaker 1>And never that's why I don't want It's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to talk about stuff because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go I got it, because you never have it until

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<v Speaker 1>both sides have signed in ink or blood and it's

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<v Speaker 1>on paper and you're moving forward and ready to rock

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<v Speaker 1>and roll. And even then sometimes shit falls apart. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I'm comfortable talking about. It is when contracts

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<v Speaker 1>are signed. So the most recent one that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>working on fell apart. We're actively looking for more brands

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<v Speaker 1>out there that are looking for a TV deal, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll investigate all of them. Some of them don't bring

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<v Speaker 1>enough to the table for my partner and I to

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<v Speaker 1>bring our investment too, and some of them want more

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<v Speaker 1>of an investment than I'm willing and my partner are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been hard as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been so hard it's made me doubt myself to

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<v Speaker 1>the where I'm like, maybe this isn't the right move,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm not meant to do this, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>almost you almost want to give up on yourself sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then took a moment realize, that's just how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling right now. I didn't feel like that ten minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I probably won't feel like that ten minutes from now.

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<v Speaker 1>And usually you're right. Sometimes it takes an hour, a day,

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<v Speaker 1>a week, but whatever it takes, that feeling eventually subsides

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<v Speaker 1>and something stronger takes its place and you get reinspired

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<v Speaker 1>and reinvigorated. I was doing the I know you did

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<v Speaker 1>last summer sequel in Australia. When I got the news,

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<v Speaker 1>the deal I thought was for sure going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>fell apart, and I was so pissed. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with all these young people who were so hungry

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<v Speaker 1>and at the beginnings of their career that it made

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<v Speaker 1>me hungry. I fed off their energy and I shook

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<v Speaker 1>that bullshit off as quickly as I could, and it

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<v Speaker 1>did not take long, about ten minutes, and I called

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<v Speaker 1>my partner. I was like, let's just let's reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody else and see who's receptive to what we

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table and try to get it going.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the outlook that they took as well. For them,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more business than passion for wrestling. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>passion of wrestling and then the business for it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm still on the road. It is not easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am not giving up, but yeah, I am

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<v Speaker 1>further back than I was two weeks ago. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm out there searching and hunting and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find the right deal, and as soon as I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you. I'll let all you guys know stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for our holiday episodes coming up. Stay tuned for

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<v Speaker 1>us every single Wednesday. We're going to be with you

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<v Speaker 1>all throughout the holidays. We'll bring some old school stuff too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll still be with you guys. So make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you guys tune in and I'll see all of you

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<v Speaker 1>next week every week, and I wish everybody happy Holladays too.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace.

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