1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: We talked to Universal because they were losing I knew 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: they'd be losing Monday Night Raw even back then, because 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: we know shit, even though we can't talk about it 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: on the podcast. They were similarly wanted something more established, 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: and again I was brand new there. I wasn't coming 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: in with somebody else's promotion, and that became the speed bump. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: That I hit time and time and time again. Ladies 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: and gentlemen. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Are you Ready's about to hit the fan? Welcome to 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: on sanctioned Thursdays are wrestling? 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: What's ready? What's up? Everybody? 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to unsanctioned Thursday, and we're getting ready to wrap 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: up twenty twenty four. We'll talk about my year just 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: in general, not even we might not even talk wrestling. 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk a little wrestling because we got big 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: move from Monday Night Raw leaving the USA Network and 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: joining Netflix. 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: I hope all of you have Netflix. 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: If not, they're counting on you to become a subscriber 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: so the Netflix can remain the powerhouse juggernaut that it 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: is and their executives can get twenty two million dollar 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: bonuses instead of putting that money into the budgets for movies. 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: And wrestling and TV and things like that. What, Freddie, 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: you're exaggerating. 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: What No, I'm not Anyway, WW is gonna make a 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of money for Netflix. 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: It's going to bring a shitload of people over there. 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I am not surprised that they're leaving because USA just 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: couldn't compete price wise with what they were going to 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: get paid by Netflix. USA is a cable network on 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, satellite TV and cable. 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: But streaming is is the future. 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Streaming is the now, and all that satellite and cable 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 1: shit is the past. 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: It's just hanging on. 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Like, you know, you go on Serious XM and you 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: can listen to the seventy station, but there's a seventy station, uh, 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: seventies meeting one seventies station. There's about forty different pop stations, 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: forty different rock stations. Like it's you know, the seventies 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: are what they are. I love them. My cars are 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: from the seventies and the sixties. Well, I got a 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: new car. You guys, got a sixty nine two thousand 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: dots in roadster. Been this thing's been getting worked one 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: for over a year. Finally got the clutch disc fixed, 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: replace the front shocks, just waiting on carpet that goes in. 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm recording this on a Monday, so it's going in 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: today Wednesday. The car will be ready. I'll post pictures 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: of it. She's cherry red convertible. I may even keep 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: the hood off. Now it's wintertime, I'll probably put the 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: hood back. I'll put her clothes on. You know, it's 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: legal to be topless out here. I'll post some photos 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: on my Instagram. It's real Freddie Prinz. It's just real 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Freddy Prince. Yeah, you guys got to check that car out. 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, so, yeah, I didn't think USA would be 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: able to afford them. They're going to Netflix. I'm going 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: to be at that debut show, so look for me 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: in the crowd. I'll be the one with the sign 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: that says, look it's me Freddy Prince. 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: Do you know I won't do that. 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm bringing my kids and stuff like that, So if 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: I see you there, i'll definitely say hi, but I 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: won't be able to stop and take photos. I got 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to look after my kids and take care of my 64 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: kids and stuff like that. But I'll definitely return any 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: love that you share. If you want to yell you 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: suck in front of my kids. You could do that too, 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: but you're gonna hear it back. And I talk shit 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: better than most, so you better come correct. But yeah, 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: let's talk about the year I went through some friggin 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: ups and downs wrestling wise. I've been trying to start 71 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: my own federation for a long time, my own promotion. 72 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: It started off this reality company came and pitched this 73 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: like docu series to me of me trying to pull 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: this off, with the final episode being sort of what 75 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: we call a backdoor pilot, so the last episode would 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: become the first episode of the new promotion that goes 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: a backdoor a backdoor pilot, so that was kind of 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: the hope and goal for it. I had some interest 79 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: from Vice, who couldn't afford it, and they're restructuring their 80 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: finances and their entire company. I don't even know if 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: there'll be a Vice in a couple of years. I 82 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: hope they're because they do Dark Side of the Ring 83 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: and seem to have some love for wrestling. They admittedly said, 84 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: we don't know anything about wrestling, but we like the 85 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: business and we want to be in business, and they 86 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: tried to make it work, but couldn't Warners wanted me 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: to be way Warner Discovery wanted me to me to 88 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: be way more established and only focused on the reality 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: portion of the of the pitch that they just wanted 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: a reality show, which I wasn't interested in, and the 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: things they pitched there like it needs more like people 92 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: working against you. I was like, I know, I'm actually 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: trying to pull this off. I don't want to have 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: people working against me. I'll have enough of that already. 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: Like all they wanted was like fake created drama, which 96 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: is such horseshit. That's why reality TV sucks because none 97 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: of it's real. So that was a pass on my side. 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Who else was there? We talked to Universal because they 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: were losing I knew they'd be losing Monday Night Raw 100 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: even back then because we know shit, even though we 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: can't talk about it on the podcast. They were similarly 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: wanted something more established, and again I was brand new there. 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't coming in with with somebody else's promotion, and 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: that became the speed bump that I hit time and 105 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: time and time again until the point where I spoke 106 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: to my partners at the place where I have basically 107 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: a distribution deal although not in writing, but the two 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: of us, my partner who is the streaming service, and 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: myself are now to the point where we're actively looking 110 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: for other well known promotions that I can then come 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: in creatively and help direct and build, you know, culture 112 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: and present to a mainstream TV audience. Right helped them 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: get on track. It wouldn't per se, it wouldn't be 114 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: my idea, per se. And I'm not trying to change 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: someone's brand. Let's just make up a wrestling company's name 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: real quick. Let's say we acquired ICW, right is, which 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: is International Competitive Wrestling. 118 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: That's the name of this one ICW. 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: There's probably actually an ICW out there, so if there is, 120 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not trying to blow you up. I 121 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: would then go in and acquire their contracts, their brand, 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: their ring, their their content, their everything. Although the content 123 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: on low budget stuff isn't really presentable for TV, so 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: those libraries don't have the value that these guys hope 125 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: that they have just because the quality won't match. I 126 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: would then go in there, bring them in and instead 127 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: of calling them what I was going to call my profession, 128 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: because that's disrespectful to just take their shit and change it. 129 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I would just maintain their name and I would become 130 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: their head of creative and help sort of reguide and focus, 131 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, and do what I did well in WWE 132 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: into their promotion and then make that our promotion. So 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: that's where I'm at now. That's the most information I 134 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: can give and just well, no, it's not. That's been 135 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: a freaking challenge too. I've already tried with one that 136 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: I was really passionate about, really like their roster, loved 137 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: a handful of their wrestlers. It just fit so well 138 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: with what I was trying to do, and we just 139 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: couldn't freaking make a deal work. It wasn't their fault, 140 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't our fault. It's just sometimes you can't come 141 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: up with with the right numbers that everybody feels comfortable with. 142 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: And that's what a negotiation is. 143 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: And never that's why I don't want It's hard for 144 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: me to talk about stuff because I don't want to 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: go I got it, because you never have it until 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: both sides have signed in ink or blood and it's 147 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: on paper and you're moving forward and ready to rock 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: and roll. And even then sometimes shit falls apart. But 149 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: that's when I'm comfortable talking about. It is when contracts 150 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: are signed. So the most recent one that I've been 151 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: working on fell apart. We're actively looking for more brands 152 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: out there that are looking for a TV deal, and 153 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: we'll investigate all of them. Some of them don't bring 154 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: enough to the table for my partner and I to 155 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: bring our investment too, and some of them want more 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: of an investment than I'm willing and my partner are 157 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: willing to bring to the table. 158 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: So it's a challenge. 159 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Man. 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: It's been hard as hell. 161 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: It's been so hard it's made me doubt myself to 162 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the where I'm like, maybe this isn't the right move, 163 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: maybe I'm not meant to do this, and like I 164 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: almost you almost want to give up on yourself sometimes, 165 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: and then took a moment realize, that's just how I'm 166 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: feeling right now. I didn't feel like that ten minutes ago, 167 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: and I probably won't feel like that ten minutes from now. 168 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: And usually you're right. Sometimes it takes an hour, a day, 169 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: a week, but whatever it takes, that feeling eventually subsides 170 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: and something stronger takes its place and you get reinspired 171 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: and reinvigorated. I was doing the I know you did 172 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: last summer sequel in Australia. When I got the news, 173 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: the deal I thought was for sure going to happen 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: fell apart, and I was so pissed. But I was 175 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: working with all these young people who were so hungry 176 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and at the beginnings of their career that it made 177 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: me hungry. I fed off their energy and I shook 178 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: that bullshit off as quickly as I could, and it 179 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: did not take long, about ten minutes, and I called 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: my partner. I was like, let's just let's reach out 181 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: to everybody else and see who's receptive to what we 182 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: bring to the table and try to get it going. 183 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: That was the outlook that they took as well. For them, 184 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: it's more business than passion for wrestling. For me, it's 185 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: passion of wrestling and then the business for it. But yeah, 186 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: so I'm still on the road. It is not easy, 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: and I am not giving up, but yeah, I am 188 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: further back than I was two weeks ago. So you know, 189 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: it's I'm out there searching and hunting and trying to 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: find the right deal, and as soon as I do, 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I'll let you. I'll let all you guys know stay 192 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: tuned for our holiday episodes coming up. Stay tuned for 193 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: us every single Wednesday. We're going to be with you 194 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: all throughout the holidays. We'll bring some old school stuff too, 195 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: but I'll still be with you guys. So make sure 196 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: you guys tune in and I'll see all of you 197 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: next week every week, and I wish everybody happy Holladays too. 198 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: Peace. 199 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. 200 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 201 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.