WEBVTT - Activist Roqy Tyraid on Voting, Holding Office, and Keeping Politicians Accountable

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<v Speaker 1>If you followed this show for some time, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been extra active lately because we are based

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<v Speaker 1>in a swing state, so you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of movement on the ground in Phoenix. We've also had

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<v Speaker 1>to move around the country quite a bit, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get as much content from different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the map and bring it back to this show just

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<v Speaker 1>to provide perspectives and to grow as individuals and as

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<v Speaker 1>hosts of this show as well. But longtime listeners might

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<v Speaker 1>know this, many newcomers to the show may not know this.

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<v Speaker 1>A longtime friend of the show is someone that has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of supported us from the sidelines in some instances

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<v Speaker 1>and has supported us in the studio a few times

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He's a person that we've known for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And you know, again, those of you that

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<v Speaker 1>have listened to the show for a long time, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that myself and Q we have a background in

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop broadcasting. You know, we're DJs, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>we play songs on radio that we think are dope,

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<v Speaker 1>and the individual who is joining us today is one

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<v Speaker 1>such individual whose songs were dope and we played them

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio. In fact, for a long time we

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<v Speaker 1>featured him on every show Let's Go, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to have another conversation because he has done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of growing in his own political career. Both Q

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<v Speaker 1>and myself we hit our our stride as broadcasters and

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<v Speaker 1>really our origin story as Civic Cipher and the Protest

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty. Same can be said of today's guests. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>today's guest, I mean to say, and you know, today's

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<v Speaker 1>conversation has been a long time coming. So we're checking

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<v Speaker 1>in on a friend where we're going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of, you know, what he's been up to, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're hoping that you will be able to see some

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself in his story, because he's shown us that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that we thought were these impossible

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<v Speaker 1>cliffs to scale are very attainable for people who want

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved and who want to get engaged. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're hoping that today's conversation translates and that you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to derive some meaning from it. I go by

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<v Speaker 1>the name Rams's Jah and I am Q Ward and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Civic Cipher with our special guest. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Rocky Tirade Yo Yo yo Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, awesome back. Absolutely, man. I also want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we have your your daytime name. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know Rocky tyra that's that's we know you

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<v Speaker 1>as Rocky Tyrade. And again for those who are are

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<v Speaker 1>still becoming familiar, I employ you to check out Rocky Tyrae.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out his music. He's one of them ones. The

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<v Speaker 1>type of music that we like to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky is one one of those artists that is really

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the stuff that really matters and is really

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful in the music is dope. So said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've known that for a long time and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people thank you, but you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I always appreciate that from you, man like y'all are

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<v Speaker 3>to the coolest to the coolest. I here, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>honored to be close with y'all and always admire your

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<v Speaker 3>artistic and creative perspectives and things of that nature. So

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<v Speaker 3>that type of analysis of my art is very much

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<v Speaker 3>well received.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, thank you. It's been a very long

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<v Speaker 1>path that we've walked in terms of being entertainers, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of you know, working in this field and of

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<v Speaker 1>course this pivot. You're one of the people whose music translated,

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<v Speaker 1>and your music wasn't just performance, you were really about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you say that it was a pivot, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess a knowing rocky tirade first. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how I was introduced to my brother, is that it

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<v Speaker 2>was more of an evolution than a pivot. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a path that he was already on, even

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<v Speaker 2>as a creator. So it's not like he made a

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<v Speaker 2>left or right. He just made his path way wider

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<v Speaker 2>and that mug started going out there you go, because

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<v Speaker 2>so it was. It's been a really really cool evolution

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<v Speaker 2>to witness.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, once upon a time, seeing him with a with

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<v Speaker 1>a microphone on a stage, you're like, yeah, okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, he's an artist. And then you know a

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<v Speaker 1>little later, you see him with a bullhorn and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of signs in a crowd. The crowd is behind

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<v Speaker 1>them instead of in front of him, and you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that totally makes sense. I've never even thought of it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought about the the the engagement, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of like how we channel the way in

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<v Speaker 3>which we creatively express ourselves in one manner or another.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all being purveyors of music. You know, there's you cultivate

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<v Speaker 3>an experience, and you're cultivating an experience a civic cipher

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<v Speaker 3>and and it's the same thing, like we're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>am seeing this event or a group and instead of

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<v Speaker 3>it being stuff that pertains to like artistic expression, it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, policy and you know, family focused conversations and

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<v Speaker 3>things of that nature. Sure, so it is somewhat of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing, you know. Yeah, well I like

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<v Speaker 3>way Q said it, which was, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>an evolution of it. But I want to I want

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<v Speaker 3>to go or I rather, I want you to go

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<v Speaker 3>into that sow your your daytime name. What you're known

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<v Speaker 3>as in political circles is Jacob Rayford. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>we know you as an artist, but you're an activist,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a political strategist. Do do our listeners a favor

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<v Speaker 3>talk a little bit about, you know, your overall brand

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<v Speaker 3>and what it is that you offer the public, because

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<v Speaker 3>I know that you're a multifaceted creator and you could

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<v Speaker 3>of course articulate it better than than I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I just look at it as a form of expression,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whether it's like you know, writing music and

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<v Speaker 3>creating songs and you know, performing on stage. Instead of

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<v Speaker 3>it speaking to a specific subject that you would find

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<v Speaker 3>in music and stuff like that, it's centered around policy.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't necessarily put two and two together until maybe

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<v Speaker 3>midway into this evolution, I would say, as Q put it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I started in the twenty twenty demonstrations and

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<v Speaker 3>we just kind of showed up because there really wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>any other support system out there that time. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about twenty twenty. The last time we had

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<v Speaker 3>something out there was twenty seventeen, and you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>of the murder of your Org Floyd, because of the

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<v Speaker 3>murder of Dean Johnson, you know, people were upset and

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<v Speaker 3>they're frustrated, and then coupled with the shared collective trauma

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<v Speaker 3>of like COVID and things of that nature, it was

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<v Speaker 3>just the you know, these weird things kind of simultaneously occurring,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we were just kind of worried about

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<v Speaker 3>there not being the resources to take care of these

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<v Speaker 3>twenty year olds and these seventeen year olds and these

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two year olds who were out there and didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to say, protect themselves from tear gas, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know how to you know, tend to a wound

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, the proper procedures of making sure that

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<v Speaker 3>your personal information doesn't get snatched up so you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get docked or harmed or things of that nature. And

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<v Speaker 3>so we just kind of showed up at somewhat like

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<v Speaker 3>unofficial medics, and then that just kind of translated into

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<v Speaker 3>unofficially you know, or being a organizer and bridging that

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<v Speaker 3>being the mortar in the brick wall when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to moments where we needed to like unify, we needed

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<v Speaker 3>to have a collective message, or we needed to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have that collective sense of like courage in very dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>and fearful moments. And you know, I hate to use

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of that parallel between music and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>policy and advocacy because it sounds a little almost performative.

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<v Speaker 3>When I felt like that, I don't want it to

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<v Speaker 3>be interpreted in that way. What I mean is like

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<v Speaker 3>the same elements that you learned as a performer, you

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<v Speaker 3>are able to, you know, put into practice in these

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<v Speaker 3>very random experiences where knowing how to read a crowd

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<v Speaker 3>and knowing how to engage any certain scenarios is literally

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of life and death. In so many critical

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<v Speaker 3>moments and you know, just kind of finding our feet

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<v Speaker 3>or finding our footing. We ended up creating what was

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<v Speaker 3>called the Wee Rising Project, and you know, we held

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<v Speaker 3>it down for about five and a half months, speaking

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<v Speaker 3>of policy advocacy, speaking to addressing police brutality, and most

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<v Speaker 3>importantly registering voters so we can you know, stop maga

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<v Speaker 3>at the front door. You know, that was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most incredible moments, like taking this collective body and

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<v Speaker 3>help and us transforming ourselves into a political body, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, using that to you know, address down ballot

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<v Speaker 3>races that like definitively and immediately impact us. And then

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<v Speaker 3>of course we had all the police brutality stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>would emerge that was no different than the cointeil pro

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<v Speaker 3>issues during the nineteen sixties and seventies civil rights movements.

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<v Speaker 3>And and but you know, we emerged from the other side,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe bruised and battered a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, encouraged to continue this moment and and and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, perpetuate this this advocacy work. And that's when

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<v Speaker 3>we started pushing for the Neighborhood Organized Crisis Assistance Program,

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<v Speaker 3>addressing victimists non violent dispatches through a holistic unit that's

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<v Speaker 3>trained to look at these type of dispatches through care

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<v Speaker 3>and not criminality. That is what really started the building

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<v Speaker 3>blocks of the transformation of the Community Assistance Program in

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<v Speaker 3>the City of Phoenix UH into which is still an

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing project down in the City of Phoenix, but something

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<v Speaker 3>that can serve as an alternative UH to the traditional

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<v Speaker 3>police engagement with communities that because of a lack of

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<v Speaker 3>understanding of specific behavioral health sciences and things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it has led to police brutality and has

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<v Speaker 3>led to a misusage of you know, force. And that

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<v Speaker 3>is when I personally continued my my individual journey. I

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<v Speaker 3>joined the ACOU and then continued my advocacy work there

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<v Speaker 3>as a working board member, and then ended up joining

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<v Speaker 3>you know, volunteering for the UH the Democratic Party as

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<v Speaker 3>what was called a precinct committee person as someone who

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<v Speaker 3>is a volunteer but politically empowered to vote on behalf

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<v Speaker 3>of my legislative district, to vote on behalf of my county.

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<v Speaker 3>And once I found out what that definition was, I was,

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was upset, and you know, because I

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<v Speaker 3>felt that I was politically educated enough but discovering that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know about something so critical and important to

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<v Speaker 3>moving a party forward and injecting your perspective as a

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<v Speaker 3>disproportionally affected person. That's something that inspired me to continue

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<v Speaker 3>my work forward. And that's when I ended up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really kind of evolving into this space as someone who

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<v Speaker 3>works on policy on a daily basis and works in

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<v Speaker 3>the political structure on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>It is It is such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of body experience, almost listening to what I described

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<v Speaker 2>as an evolution, but you telling that story kind of

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<v Speaker 2>visually and mentally painted a picture of what that looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty was kind of the perfect storm you had.

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<v Speaker 2>MAGA mixed with the protest, mixed with the pandemic, mixed

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<v Speaker 2>with the kinetic real life devaluing of the life of

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<v Speaker 2>black and brown people, all happening at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So very easy to understand. What made all of us

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<v Speaker 2>show up initially?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it that kept you engaged in that process?

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why I ask that question is that

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<v Speaker 2>role that you described that you were kind of frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't know about before. There are so many

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<v Speaker 2>ways that us normal folks can be more involved can

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<v Speaker 2>be active participants in our civic duties, in the political process,

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<v Speaker 2>but most of us don't think that's realistic. Like people

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<v Speaker 2>have said to Ramses and I before, sometimes very serious,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes joking, y'all should run for office, and we're almost

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<v Speaker 2>always like yeah, right, like we couldn't do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people feel like we couldn't. We couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>run for city council, or we couldn't run for mayor,

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<v Speaker 2>or we couldn't play an active role and legislating the

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<v Speaker 2>community that we live in. But it sounds like when

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<v Speaker 2>you went outside you discovered that you could, and once

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<v Speaker 2>you knew that you could, it's like you couldn't help it. Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now that I know I can have some impact, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way I'm not going to stay engaged and stay

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<v Speaker 2>an active participant in the change that I want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just my read from over here in my seat.

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<v Speaker 2>You can touch on that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we won't be I feel like if somebody

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<v Speaker 3>wants who they can, I mean, look at raf rafail Warnock,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's somebody who worked within the within this congregation.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at Tim Wallas, this is someone who was was

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<v Speaker 3>a was a coach and you know, served in the

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<v Speaker 3>National Guard. I mean, there's there's we have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to show up and be a part of this space.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that you know, in a representative democracy,

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<v Speaker 3>who better in some of these cases to be a

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<v Speaker 3>part of that, uh than someone who comes directly from

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<v Speaker 3>that that that space. And I feel that what we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen over the past couple of years is recognize that

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<v Speaker 3>the around the way person can have a space in politics.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why it's no coincidence that we have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of policy focused on middle class, working class, working

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<v Speaker 3>families and things of that nature, because all it takes

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit of drive, momentum, collectivized energy. But

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<v Speaker 3>I guess what inspired me to do it or continue

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<v Speaker 3>to show up maybe a no issue and then maybe

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<v Speaker 3>seriously there's always something to be done, Like while working

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<v Speaker 3>on the No Cap Advocacy Coalition, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>also again falling it into my work as a precat

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<v Speaker 3>committee person and then joining the Black Engagement Committee and

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<v Speaker 3>then kind of finding out about the Maricopa County Democratic

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<v Speaker 3>Party and what all this means, and you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>the the institutional aspect of like politics and the need

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<v Speaker 3>for us to continue to show up in these spaces

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, if we're able to positively affect change

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty, we can do it in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we all that we did that, and when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to younger progressives and younger Democrats and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that real that that nucleus, that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>that that big bang moment or whatnot, was going back

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty twenty and you can like see that reverberate

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<v Speaker 3>throughout what happened in twenty twenty two and just this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of outward advocacy and expression of things that are

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<v Speaker 3>more in line with our working class families, in middle

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<v Speaker 3>middle class families. You know, as we continue to fall

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<v Speaker 3>into what is now this election cycle, it's it's no coincidence.

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<v Speaker 3>And knowing that that rock can create waves is what

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<v Speaker 3>continues to inspire push me to show up, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows where this thing can go if we can

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<v Speaker 3>continue to to to just show up and be involved

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<v Speaker 3>and engage ourselves in a way in which we're able to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you something because you're probably in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to answer it, that is, unlike most people,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you offer to people insofar as voting is

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<v Speaker 1>concerned in terms of like advice or motivation or you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever. People who might be conflicted, might not like

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<v Speaker 1>their choices. People who you know, wherever they are, stress

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of voting and how you might bring yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to do it if you were in a position like that.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to voting, we need to understand that

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<v Speaker 3>politics is a structure, it's a system. It's a network

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<v Speaker 3>of different policies, different tenets, and different ideas and things

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<v Speaker 3>that candidates bring to the table that can either help

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<v Speaker 3>or hinder, you know, progression forward for our families being

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<v Speaker 3>in Arizona, being being in America, you know, and we

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<v Speaker 3>need to recognize that track records speaks best and looking

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<v Speaker 3>for instance at the Biden Harris administration and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the most family focused administration since l b J.

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<v Speaker 3>When you talk about the way in which we've positively

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<v Speaker 3>affected access to to to medication, how we have expanded

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<v Speaker 3>jobs in the tech industry with the chips at how

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<v Speaker 3>we expanded opportunities by providing financial aid to HBCUs, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that is a track record that speaks to the importance

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<v Speaker 3>of showing up to vote for the work that Harris

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<v Speaker 3>Walls would bring to the table. And when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the track record of say, you know, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>and JD. E. Vance, and not only just their rhetoric,

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<v Speaker 3>but the things that transpired over the during the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>Pence administration, when he mismanaged a once in a century pandemic,

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<v Speaker 3>when he mismanaged a a critical point in social history

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<v Speaker 3>in America, and just the the chaos that he enabled

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<v Speaker 3>and perpetuating through the way in which he governed. That

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<v Speaker 3>should inspire anybody to want to show up and ensure

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<v Speaker 3>that we don't end up in a space where that

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<v Speaker 3>type of rhetoric, that type of policy can now only continue,

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<v Speaker 3>but continue knowing that they are empowered or emboldened by

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court and by the outward effect and chaos

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<v Speaker 3>that came with January sixth. They are telling us, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've been telling us for nine years. They've been showing

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<v Speaker 3>us for three years, this is a sliding scale. And

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<v Speaker 3>whether you're black or Indigenous, or trans or Latino or

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<v Speaker 3>a white American, everybody will be affected detrimentally by the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump Advanced ticket if they were to get to the

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<v Speaker 3>other side. We don't need to look at it from

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<v Speaker 3>how you identify if you are a lifelong Democrat, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a lifelong Republican. In this is folks who believe

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<v Speaker 3>in continuing the importance of having a representative democracy and

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<v Speaker 3>those who are willingly willing to put their hands up

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<v Speaker 3>and let us slide into what is academically defined as

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<v Speaker 3>a fascist regime.

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<v Speaker 1>That in itself should inspire you to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get up and vote. You can go to I will

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<v Speaker 3>vote dot com and figure out your registration status. You

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<v Speaker 3>can go to the Maricopa County Democratic Party or your

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<v Speaker 3>legislative district and look at the ballot propositions and and

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<v Speaker 3>understand why a collect a community is voting against specific

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<v Speaker 3>propositions such as three one four, voting four things such

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<v Speaker 3>as one three nine, the first one being the second

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<v Speaker 3>coming of SB ten seventy, that's proposition three one four,

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<v Speaker 3>and abortion access, protecting abortion access being through voting yes

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<v Speaker 3>on proposition one three nine. These are things that immediately

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<v Speaker 3>impact you, and that is why we need to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that we have the ability to vote. You can

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<v Speaker 3>go to I will vote dot and figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to vote. You can go to rides to Vote and

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<v Speaker 3>figure out how and get transportation two poles, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>the tools are right there in front of us. The

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<v Speaker 3>information and the obviousness are in front of us, and

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<v Speaker 3>we should be inspired to show up and defend our

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<v Speaker 3>family and defend our ability to have a fair and

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<v Speaker 3>equitable future by simply voting and continuing to show up

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<v Speaker 3>and hold our elected officials accountable and make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we're informed so we don't repeat these steps in the

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<v Speaker 3>near future.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I heard you say that the former president mismanaged

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<v Speaker 2>a once in a lifetime pandemic. If that was due

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<v Speaker 2>to incompetency, yeah, it'd be different. But that was a smug, arrogant, callous,

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<v Speaker 2>apathetic handling of that pandemic. It's not just the category

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<v Speaker 2>categorically defined, you know, it's the way that he handled

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<v Speaker 2>it that makes it so bad. All none of us

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<v Speaker 2>are perfect, and everybody can make a mistake, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>once in a lifetime that have been difficult for anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But his lack of ability to ever even look around

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<v Speaker 2>to experts and ask for.

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<v Speaker 3>Help, genuine apathy, genuine narcissism, like codified through the work

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<v Speaker 3>of an administration. That is what we had seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are at the all but literal fork in

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<v Speaker 3>the road. We can repeat that on steroids because they're

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<v Speaker 3>telling us we be able to do what they would

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<v Speaker 3>do in terms of being a dictator on day one.

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<v Speaker 3>Or we can continue to push policies that have been

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<v Speaker 3>positively affecting our families, that has been lowering inflation, that

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<v Speaker 3>has been giving elected officials across the country in local

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<v Speaker 3>and statewide positions the ability to fight back against corporations

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<v Speaker 3>that are exploiting families.

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<v Speaker 1>The choice is obvious, Yes, choice is obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to make sure we didn't push past that

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<v Speaker 2>and we won't even talk about January sixth if that

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<v Speaker 2>could be a whole the whole show by itself, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this election is of the utmost importance. The state are

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<v Speaker 2>the highest they've ever been. I know we've heard that

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<v Speaker 2>said it before. This is not hyperbole, folks. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the real deal. However, this election is not the finish line,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is still work to do. From your vantage point,

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<v Speaker 2>what is next for us and how can people be

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<v Speaker 2>how can people remain engaged and what are some action

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<v Speaker 2>steps that we can take with us moving forward from now?

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<v Speaker 3>I would ask people to be involved in their local

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<v Speaker 3>political party. It's you have what is called because you

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<v Speaker 3>know you have you have a school districts and things

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<v Speaker 3>of that nature. You have what's called in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Arizona at least, and I know this is something

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<v Speaker 3>that's across the country, but speaking genuine, genuine or generally,

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<v Speaker 3>you have what's called a legislative district. And using Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>as an example, you within our legislative district districts, you

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<v Speaker 3>have where you're a state committee, I mean your state committee,

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<v Speaker 3>your state senators, and your state representatives are housed. We

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<v Speaker 3>have two in state of Arizona. Our state representatives are

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<v Speaker 3>too and and one state senator per legislative district. And

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<v Speaker 3>within this space is how you get involved in the

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<v Speaker 3>most immediate and impactful way by becoming a volunteer in

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<v Speaker 3>this space as a precinct committee person. And that is

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<v Speaker 3>someone who is politically empowered to vote on policy, to

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<v Speaker 3>run for office when you're within your legislative district, to

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<v Speaker 3>impact policy in your county party, and to run for

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<v Speaker 3>office within your your your county county party as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, this is how, through engagement and

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<v Speaker 3>in mass representation, that we can continue to push policy

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<v Speaker 3>that benefits people across the board. So that what's next

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<v Speaker 3>part is continuing to stay engaged, having these conversations when

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<v Speaker 3>we're not facing an existential crisis, and you know, continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to stay informed about what's going on over down in

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<v Speaker 3>DC with our executive branch, what's going on in Congress,

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<v Speaker 3>with our with our congressional folks, so we elected the office,

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<v Speaker 3>and making sure that we play an active role in,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, building that momentum around policy advocacy and political engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned earlier, and I think you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>implied it a bit right now, keeping our elected officials

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for what it is that they say. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>assume all the best outcomes for the upcoming election and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as doom and gloom as it could otherwise be.

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<v Speaker 1>As Q mentioned, you know, that's the starting line. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned again, what we need to do is

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<v Speaker 1>keep our elected officials in the hot seat, keep them

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<v Speaker 1>accountable to what it is that they say they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. What does that look like for people who've

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<v Speaker 1>already you know, cast their vote, who are celebrating on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of election, or maybe there's a different

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<v Speaker 1>reality on the other side of the election. How do

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<v Speaker 1>those people hold their elected representatives accountable either on local

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<v Speaker 1>or state level or nationally.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll I would say continue to to follow your your representatives.

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<v Speaker 3>There are folks utilizing social media in order to speak

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<v Speaker 3>to what's going on down at their state legislature, what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on in there are various elected official offices, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the best way to hear it from their perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>Educate yourself, and then of course, through involving yourself in

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<v Speaker 3>local political structures like your legislative district or your county party. UH,

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<v Speaker 3>you have access to information that would fall through the

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<v Speaker 3>cracks when it comes to news and our social media

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<v Speaker 3>outlets and things of that nature. And then of course

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<v Speaker 3>there's always other like advocacy organizations, auxiliary groups and in

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<v Speaker 3>nonprofits that are engaged in specific aspects of policy work

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<v Speaker 3>and policy advocacy.

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<v Speaker 1>UH.

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<v Speaker 3>And again using Arizona as an example, you have your

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<v Speaker 3>civic engagement beyond voting, your opportunity for Arizona, your a

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<v Speaker 3>c ou of Arizona, you know, your a d LCC.

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<v Speaker 3>You know though, those those types of entities have specific

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<v Speaker 3>types of objectives and in ways in which they engage

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<v Speaker 3>policy and politics that you know just by simply following them.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just stay up to speed on things, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're not kind of caught with your pants down when

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<v Speaker 3>you get a ballot that has ten or twelve propositions

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<v Speaker 3>and you're searching, you know, hurriedly onlines. You can fill

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<v Speaker 3>this out and drop it off at your ballot box.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd already know these things that are taking place because

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<v Speaker 3>you stay up to speed. And we also have to

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<v Speaker 3>recognize that when it comes to our communities, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we come you know, predominantly from working class and working

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<v Speaker 3>family households and whatnot. So there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>that we just have to prioritize above just being like

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<v Speaker 3>political nerds and unofficial pundits and stuff like that, just

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of other people. And that's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why using again your social media to follow

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<v Speaker 3>these folks and follow your elected officials is a way

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<v Speaker 3>that you can just kind of unconsciously like down load

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<v Speaker 3>this information into your daily you know, memory bank and

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<v Speaker 3>lexicon and things of that day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're going to say. I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>that I have an idea, but I don't, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna let this one fly. You give me whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you got both barrels. A lot of folks have made

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal about black men this election cycle. We

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<v Speaker 1>are all black men. We are all in a leadership

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<v Speaker 1>capacity to one degree or another, and our thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>voices resonate, they create waves in our community. We have,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for Q and I, we've tried to be

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<v Speaker 1>as responsible with that as possible, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the same is true for you. But every man has

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<v Speaker 1>to follow his own heart, and every woman has to

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<v Speaker 1>follow her own heart. I want to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to speak to black men prior to the election,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically using that microphone in this show. So floor is yours.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say that when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>our demographic, historically we know that we show up, and

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<v Speaker 3>historically we know that we do what we need to

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<v Speaker 3>do to leave everything in the ring. We fight for

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<v Speaker 3>things that are pertinent to our families, our values, our neighborhoods,

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<v Speaker 3>our communities, and this is no different you know, between

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<v Speaker 3>our brothers and our sisters. We created a very important

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<v Speaker 3>civil rights movement that resulted in things such as breakfast

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<v Speaker 3>programs and schools and certain tenets that have been incorporated

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<v Speaker 3>into the the infrastructure of our country. That speaks to

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<v Speaker 3>the power of the importance of our collectivized power. And

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<v Speaker 3>we know that multiple demographics have specific conversation around get

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<v Speaker 3>out the vote, and you know the way in which

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<v Speaker 3>media addresses certain conversations around different demographics. And because of

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<v Speaker 3>us understanding our history and our advocacy work and the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of intersectional allyship, we know that the conversation isn't

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<v Speaker 3>about us showing up in mass because we know that

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<v Speaker 3>we show up in mass it's everybody needs to get

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<v Speaker 3>up and vote. Everyone on an individual level needs to

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<v Speaker 3>get up and vote. And just as we've shown up before,

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<v Speaker 3>we will show up again. And I believe that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just in the very near future, it will be another

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<v Speaker 3>example of the power of collectivized voting. And brothers like we,

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<v Speaker 3>I know they're all proud of one another. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is as a beautiful moment and like they say, what

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<v Speaker 3>it's on to be alive?

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<v Speaker 1>M Well, listen, Rocky Tirade or Jacob Rayford. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated your artistry, and you've known that long before we

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<v Speaker 1>got to this studio, many many studios ago. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated your artistry. But now I can say that I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your activism. I appreciate your your political insight as

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<v Speaker 1>a political strategist, and I appreciate the intentionality and the

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<v Speaker 1>motivation that you're able to kind of impart on this

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<v Speaker 1>community and through our platform to our listeners as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that people can continue to

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<v Speaker 1>partake in all of the goings on in your world.

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<v Speaker 1>So will you do a kindness and leave any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of social media or website information order so folksing capping.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for so Rocky tirade r o q y t

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<v Speaker 3>y r A, I d on Instagram, on your socials,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera, and so on and so. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to say that, like this is very much an

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<v Speaker 3>emotional time for a lot of individuals, and if you're

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<v Speaker 3>engaged in any way, shape or form, or if you

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<v Speaker 3>are just anxious and worried about about the future, just

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<v Speaker 3>remember to fill your cup, do the things that provide

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<v Speaker 3>balance to your life, because there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>need to show up now and in the future. And

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<v Speaker 3>a little just putting my own my own use myself

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<v Speaker 3>as an example, my therapist told me you should, Jacob,

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<v Speaker 3>you advocate for all these things and all these people

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<v Speaker 3>when you're you going to advocate for yourself. Wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and that hit me hard and it cast me to

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<v Speaker 3>take a look at how I digest things, the die,

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<v Speaker 3>social diet, my spiritual diet, and how to at least

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<v Speaker 3>try to be more intentional with that. So the last

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<v Speaker 3>things I want to say is, please try to be

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<v Speaker 3>intentional on your spiritual and emotional and social diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get to the other side, but we

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<v Speaker 3>need you to be there, healthy, happy, vibrant, so please

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<v Speaker 3>keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you again for coming onto the show and

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<v Speaker 1>spending some time with us here on Civicpher. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been your host, Rams' joh I am q ward

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<v Speaker 1>and do us a favor. Follow us on on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>all of our previous episodes and just to stay tapped

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<v Speaker 1>in with us. If you got any sort of questions,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you any topics you want us to cover,

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, just cant say one more thing. I would be

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<v Speaker 3>in the car like mad at myself if I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say this. Please turn in your ballots. When you get

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<v Speaker 3>your ballot, fill that out, turn it in. You will

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<v Speaker 3>up getting your text.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go stop getting your text. You'll stop it

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<v Speaker 1>because I did that. Next still texting me, Yeah, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>it will happen. But yeah, tap in with us and

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<v Speaker 1>keep on riding with us. We'll be back right at

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<v Speaker 1>you real soon. We got a lot more content coming

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<v Speaker 1>your way, so we appreciate everyone riding with us.

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<v Speaker 2>C I V I C C I P h e R.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way to do it, all right, until next time,

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<v Speaker 1>please