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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flow way out of
Speaker 1: the backfield, flumming down the sideline. He's hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: presented by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon grossmay look
Speaker 1: at live at Toastitos Championship plows outside forward Center at
Speaker 1: the Star and Frisco. Got a little activity going on
Speaker 1: out there at seventy degrees. It feels like seventy degrees.
Speaker 1: The high today seventy five. The low tonight is fifty nine.
Speaker 1: And it's gonna come a storm tonight. If you're in
Speaker 1: North Texas, watch out hail, high winds, possible tornadoes. And
Speaker 1: we got storm brewing in this studio. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: that Jesse Holly is not here, because Kurt Daniels is
Speaker 1: rocking a Kansas ballcap today and his all blue. And
Speaker 1: speaking of Jesse Holly, he is joining us live from
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Louisiana after maybe one of the best games
Speaker 1: in college basketball history where his Tar Heels squeaked out
Speaker 1: to win over the Duke Blue Devils and they're playing
Speaker 1: for the National Championship tonight against Kansas Jesse Holly, how
Speaker 1: are you, sir? I'm well, Nate, how are you? How
Speaker 1: are you? And Kurt go to hell? How was it? Man?
Speaker 1: Was it awesome? It was electric? Um like it. As
Speaker 1: someone who's played in the rivalry um and the regular
Speaker 1: season in the ACC for this to be the first
Speaker 1: time it's ever been in the NBA tournament, I'm so
Speaker 1: thankful and glad that we won. And I've done my
Speaker 1: fast share of gloating and talking trash for people, But
Speaker 1: I love the way that the game went right. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a blowout on either side, Like people got there
Speaker 1: their money worth like whether it's home or in the stadium.
Speaker 1: It was one of those games that's an instant classic
Speaker 1: that will play forever in a day when it comes
Speaker 1: down to this rivalry And boy, what a great way
Speaker 1: to send that arrogant bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep coach
Speaker 1: Kase Hacking. Tell you tell you a quick story. So
Speaker 1: William was at the game. Brother Will runs a live streams.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro, Will, Yeah, he said it was still
Speaker 1: it was it was well worth it. So he went
Speaker 1: and he his ticket was way up at the top
Speaker 1: of the Superdome, so he had access to this club
Speaker 1: where it was, I guess the champagne room or something.
Speaker 1: That's the only I guess booze they had in the
Speaker 1: whole place because it was college sanction or whatever. So
Speaker 1: he goes down to this club and he meets this
Speaker 1: nice lady and her friends and they were Villanova fans,
Speaker 1: and he starts talking to them and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're leaving, and she was like, you want our tickets, Like,
Speaker 1: there's six of us. We're all leaving our team loss.
Speaker 1: We don't want to stick around for the second game.
Speaker 1: You can have the seats if you want them. So
Speaker 1: there's six seats. So Williams like, where are they? They
Speaker 1: were about twelve rows up in the corner of the
Speaker 1: court and in the family section. Apparently her her grandfather
Speaker 1: was like one of the badass coaches from Villanova. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he gets he finds five random Duke fans that random, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just recruits them. He gets them, they go down
Speaker 1: and he watches the game. He said Jesse Holly was
Speaker 1: on the JumboTron almost every every break they had. He
Speaker 1: was like kissing babies and shaking hands and dancing. He
Speaker 1: was like he was the mayor of the Superdome, so
Speaker 1: he said, Jesse was all over the place. So what
Speaker 1: I felt bad for? I get this text and it's
Speaker 1: a picture of like someone took a picture of me
Speaker 1: from across the stadium, was like in the circle. Did right.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, oh, now there's seventy five thousand people.
Speaker 1: There's this pack. I don't know how much. I don't
Speaker 1: know much a super mhold, but it's packed. And so
Speaker 1: I get this number and I'm just like, you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: yeah go. He was like this talking. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude, but I don't know
Speaker 1: who this is. And he's like it's me Bro. Will
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't have your number. Start
Speaker 1: on my phone. Brouh. William said he had better seats
Speaker 1: than you. He probably did. He probably did, Oh man,
Speaker 1: I had really good Like okay, So here's my seat
Speaker 1: to my left, George Lynch. So George Lynch and I
Speaker 1: are talking all night long. Directly in front of me.
Speaker 1: It's Jerry Stackhouse. Four seats to my right, Tyler hansbro
Speaker 1: It's Antoine Jamison. Uh. And then you know this is
Speaker 1: all you know, this is all the calendar family you got.
Speaker 1: You know, all the players were like all in the
Speaker 1: section Shaman Williams and you got Donald Williams. You guys,
Speaker 1: you know, uh got you know, Puff Johnson, I mean
Speaker 1: puff Puff Johnson. What is your Brotheridan? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you got all the guys in two roles that
Speaker 1: having me to my right, Coach Williams is sitting up there, Uh,
Speaker 1: Chase Rice, who's one of the greatest country music singers
Speaker 1: going right now, who was a former linebacker at Carolina
Speaker 1: and my teammate. He's sitting in the next roll across
Speaker 1: from me. So it was it was a star stunted
Speaker 1: the event man, and we had a good time. Man,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. So who's who cast of folks were at
Speaker 1: the game? What's the city like street and all that?
Speaker 1: It's insane, Kurt, Like when I tell you, it's insane.
Speaker 1: And I realized, I'm like, I know, you guys are
Speaker 1: older than me, but I'm old. And I'm like, these
Speaker 1: kids can go. I mean, these kids they drink all
Speaker 1: day every day. I'm like, oh, it's two three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I'm like like dragging myself to
Speaker 1: walk up and down the street and they're like, let's go,
Speaker 1: and they're like they're like double fisted. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: hanging off the balcony. It's like, I'm like, I know
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, I didn't even drink when I
Speaker 1: was eighteen, nineteen twenty years old. But I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what did these kids get the energy? And they've they've
Speaker 1: been doing it night in and night out. It's been
Speaker 1: it's been great. The atmosphere has been fantastic. It felt
Speaker 1: like college town again, you know, like those times when
Speaker 1: you were in college and everyone's hanging out and drinking
Speaker 1: it at the bars and all that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: and bar hopping. It felt like that on my knees,
Speaker 1: in my back and my ankles are killing me from
Speaker 1: doing all this walking. And so I'm like, these young
Speaker 1: folks can have it. They got it? Did you get
Speaker 1: your hand? Garnade? I did? I did good for you?
Speaker 1: See I did. I had a celebratory Uh, I would
Speaker 1: say half a one. I had a celebratory half a one,
Speaker 1: but a bunch of groups that I said that I
Speaker 1: would do it with. So I did. I did I
Speaker 1: did a half a celebratory hand grenades. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's like it's taste fruity, so I don't
Speaker 1: even know if it was like that's where it's supposed
Speaker 1: to stay fight, I don't know, but yeah, good good
Speaker 1: for you. What what's the what's the playing tonight? What
Speaker 1: you're doing tonight? You're going down early? What's what are
Speaker 1: you doing? I don't know. You know, I have a
Speaker 1: as we all working, we all either played or work
Speaker 1: in the media. Right, do you guys have a love
Speaker 1: hate relation ship with these night games? Like as a player,
Speaker 1: I used to. I used to love them because I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a night game, it's the primetime game everybody's watching.
Speaker 1: But I hate it because you gotta wait all day.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, damn, Like, what am I gonna
Speaker 1: do for the next games? Not until like a thirty
Speaker 1: nine o'clock, I'm like, what am I gonna do for
Speaker 1: the next whatever? Casino already already did what it did
Speaker 1: to me, and it was a time, So I'm not going.
Speaker 1: I'm not going back to the casino. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't hang out with these young kids and his day drinking.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm I just had breakfast, not some own goal.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit around and be an old man
Speaker 1: and watch the clock. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Hello, how
Speaker 1: long are you on with us? You're on the whole
Speaker 1: show segment or no, we're gonna we're gonna do uh,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a segment. We're gonna do a segment. Okay, maybe,
Speaker 1: well what do you since you get a segment or two? What? Uh? Nate?
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on the game? Did you watch?
Speaker 1: Said to say, I didn't know. That's why I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here listening, man, because I like, I like, I like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Who were you doing? I told
Speaker 1: Kurt Man, I'm I'm in the house, just moving around,
Speaker 1: me and wife just moving around. I'm going in and out.
Speaker 1: I'm just moving around. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I sat down at seven o'clock, nine o'clock and my
Speaker 1: phone finally just dings uh, and they told me the winners.
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, I was like, isn't this tomorrow?
Speaker 1: And I said, I said, well, least to do people
Speaker 1: out of no teams one, So I was I'm happy
Speaker 1: for y'all. That's what I'm sitting there just listening. Man.
Speaker 1: Good for you, Kurt, Good for you, Jesse. Now you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, Kurt just sitting here
Speaker 1: like y'all can ignore me. But I'm gonna go upset Jesse.
Speaker 1: That's what the lookie got on his face. You know
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch tonight. Yeah, I'm gonna try to watch
Speaker 1: the name. That's a shame I miss And it's bad
Speaker 1: that I'm not in the college basketball guy that used
Speaker 1: to be nuts five years ago about college basketball. Now
Speaker 1: I missed. I don't even know what night it's on. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: that's that's sad. So before we move on from basketball, Kurt,
Speaker 1: what is your prediction tonight? Should we even ask? Oh,
Speaker 1: Kansas gonna win. I'll give it to no win by
Speaker 1: like six six? Well you think, Jess, I will say this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Kurt some credit. Kansas is playing some
Speaker 1: damn good basketball. And my only fear, my only only
Speaker 1: only only fear, is that we didn't shoot our load
Speaker 1: Saturday night. And I mean in the basketball game. I
Speaker 1: don't mean the other way. I just I just pray
Speaker 1: that we didn't, you know, get build up, build up,
Speaker 1: build up, for this dude, Carolina robbery and it's all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and then we forget. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, we still have a national championship game to
Speaker 1: play because Candida is coming to play, and they got
Speaker 1: some darn good players, so of course I got Carolina
Speaker 1: winning by five. Oh all right, did you hear about uh, Kurt?
Speaker 1: Do you hear about uh? You don't like country music?
Speaker 1: But Eric Church, one of the one of the biggest
Speaker 1: guys in country music right now, actually cancel this concert
Speaker 1: so he could go to the game. He's getting all
Speaker 1: kinds of flat for that. San Antonio or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: san Antonio is a big he's a big UNC fan,
Speaker 1: and he just said not not only did he not
Speaker 1: only did he cancel it, but he canceled two sold
Speaker 1: out show. Oh man, man, it's worth it. I mean
Speaker 1: it's worth it. I mean he's gonna see his team
Speaker 1: win a national champire. So, yep, don't be all test.
Speaker 1: They'll come back. Yep. Cancel culture is not real, so
Speaker 1: they can't. They can't cancel it. And that's not even
Speaker 1: a real thing. Like people. He's not gonna go back
Speaker 1: to San Antonio anytime soon, but he'll come back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll come back and they'll show up, and they'll show up.
Speaker 1: They'll show that you know what it's like. It's like
Speaker 1: what people saying, uh, the Cowboys, what a horrible job
Speaker 1: they're doing. I just honestly I hate this team. And
Speaker 1: then they'll go, I'll see you guys next season, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will league the league again and attendance. After
Speaker 1: all the people saying how much they hated what happened
Speaker 1: in the off season, how they weren't showing up anymore,
Speaker 1: and how they wanted to give in journey any more
Speaker 1: than money, then they'll show up and they'll be ninety
Speaker 1: thousand every single week. So it's the same thing their
Speaker 1: church would be fine. Yeah, he'll be fine, all right.
Speaker 1: Speaking of football, Jesse, since you're only on with us
Speaker 1: for a limited time, what would you like to talk
Speaker 1: about today about this Cowboys football team or doesn't even
Speaker 1: have to be Cowboys, be anything you want, Oh, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Michael Parsons was also a Duke fan,
Speaker 1: and that just tells me the mentality of this kid
Speaker 1: I thought was a winning man halliby that he had
Speaker 1: that's clearly that's clearly now flawed. And so now I question.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I was kind of almost sure
Speaker 1: about about Michael Parsons and his ability to have a
Speaker 1: winning mindset, it's it's flawed now. And now I don't
Speaker 1: even trust him anymore. So, I mean, the one thing
Speaker 1: that we did have that we can trust on his team,
Speaker 1: we can on I can no longer trust anymore because
Speaker 1: he showed me his true colors and what his mindset
Speaker 1: was at. That's tough. That's tough. That's tough. Oh man. Well, Kurt,
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about? What do I
Speaker 1: want to talk about? We don't talk about what Jesse's buddy,
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin had some strong words? Was it last week Thursday?
Speaker 1: Over the weekend? Was over the weekend? Yeah? He said
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, he was inducted into the
Speaker 1: what was it the Are you in a bus station, Jessee,
Speaker 1: I'm in the I'm in the lobby of the of
Speaker 1: the of the of the host of the apartment. I
Speaker 1: don't get solo. Okay, go ahead, Kurt. Sorry, Well, Michael
Speaker 1: was inducted to it was the Texas or Dallas Black
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I can't remember. Free Texas Sextist Black
Speaker 1: Sports for Television. Yeah, anyway, they asked him about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and he said they are not a better team talent wise.
Speaker 1: This game doesn't require skill, it requires will. If a
Speaker 1: team loses skill but gains greater will, they can still
Speaker 1: do great things. And I found that interesting in that
Speaker 1: one is a true can a team with more will
Speaker 1: than skill actually win it? And two are the Cowboys
Speaker 1: getting more will even though they've lost some skill. Honestly
Speaker 1: that that only works in like peewee football. No, because no, seriously,
Speaker 1: like there is good only there's only a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time where your will will overtake talent. If you
Speaker 1: don't have a talented team in a league of nothing
Speaker 1: but talent, you can only will yourself so far, right
Speaker 1: because talent and that's gonna rise to the top. The
Speaker 1: superior teams will ride to the top. The better player
Speaker 1: will ride to the top. And you can will your
Speaker 1: way through a game or two, maybe even three. But
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, you know, you look
Speaker 1: at Saint Peter's right. I don't want to bring back
Speaker 1: the college basketball, but you have a Cinderella story every
Speaker 1: single year, and it's these teams who aren't uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there aren't superior in what they do. But they find
Speaker 1: this way to will themselves the victory. They start hitting
Speaker 1: shots and you know, they get a little bit, they
Speaker 1: make a little bit of a run. But then eventually
Speaker 1: you come and you face the team that just it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're Our recruits are better than yours,
Speaker 1: Our facilities are better than yours. The fly private plane,
Speaker 1: like you know, the the big singer companies pay us
Speaker 1: to wear their gear, like all the type of stuff.
Speaker 1: If it beginners to show, right, it's like our athletes
Speaker 1: are McDonald's all Americans. Yours just go to McDonald's like
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. It's the same thing. You can
Speaker 1: will your way to a certain amount. But in the
Speaker 1: league of the best of the best, you gotta have players, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta have guys at the ends of the day
Speaker 1: that's going to be able to go and make and
Speaker 1: coaches to be able to put them in the purpose
Speaker 1: position to make the place. And I think when you
Speaker 1: look at what we did this offseason, you know, we
Speaker 1: lost a lot of those guys who we who were playmakers,
Speaker 1: and we're trying to make some other guys playmakers, but
Speaker 1: we aren't quite sure if they're going to be that
Speaker 1: or can be that on a consistent basis. So the
Speaker 1: will and skill, You got to have a lot of
Speaker 1: skill if you want to will your way into a championship.
Speaker 1: What do you think? The bottom line is just right here?
Speaker 1: Jesting you put it in a very nice way. What
Speaker 1: happens when your will and those who with skill become
Speaker 1: have that same amount of will? What happens to your skill?
Speaker 1: San Francisco game. Yes, what happens when you line up
Speaker 1: and say, we got the will. But guess what when
Speaker 1: those guys with the better skill have that same amount
Speaker 1: of will? Guess what happens? You lose? You see, it's
Speaker 1: still gonna come down to you finding the right guy,
Speaker 1: the Michael Parsons of the world, even though he's a dukie. Uh.
Speaker 1: You gotta find a bunch of those guys. You gotta
Speaker 1: find a bunch. If you don't have a bunch of
Speaker 1: those guys, you gotta have four on defense, and you
Speaker 1: gotta have four on offense. Four really, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: have four. You gotta have them. You gotta have four
Speaker 1: of these guys at least. I've always wondered what I
Speaker 1: get will, But I think the thing I've always wondered
Speaker 1: about this, and Jesse, you and Nate tell me because
Speaker 1: Kurt's probably in the same boat as I am. He's
Speaker 1: never played professionals. Yeah, but it don't matter what ya
Speaker 1: but no, but y'all got it in life, right, But
Speaker 1: when you get to but when you get to this
Speaker 1: level and you're a pro athlete, I would think everyone's
Speaker 1: got the willpower to play at a high level. And
Speaker 1: when you get to this level, you don't want to
Speaker 1: get beat You don't you don't think really really no, no,
Speaker 1: And as much as we loved, as much as we
Speaker 1: love this guy, that's why Marie Cooper is not sitting here.
Speaker 1: That as much as we love a Marii Cooper. Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: that's why he left Oakland? Am I wrong? Jest? Am
Speaker 1: I on the wrong? No? No, no, that's why Mari's
Speaker 1: not here. I'm serious. Man. Is will the same thing
Speaker 1: as drive? Uh? You gotta have will to have to drive.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna have to drive to have a will?
Speaker 1: Now will is greater? Okay? So would you rather have
Speaker 1: a Maari's talent and sacrifice? What will? Gabwhere are you
Speaker 1: glad he's going now? Because you just see guys like
Speaker 1: that where if you hit the right time, you're gonna
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. But then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden money catches up because people are gonna question you
Speaker 1: will the thing with guys like a mari You you
Speaker 1: hope to have enough will guys around on him, Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, you want the skill Ultimately, that's the that's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is to happen skill, sir. But if
Speaker 1: you can, if you can, if you can, but enough
Speaker 1: will guys around him, you can kind of almost mask it,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like like there there
Speaker 1: there's some things that you can kind of try to,
Speaker 1: you know, work with that. But that skill, man, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, is the is the is
Speaker 1: the most important to have. That skill set is the
Speaker 1: most important thing. Uh. And then because you're gonna have
Speaker 1: teams that don't have that, don't have players on teams
Speaker 1: that don't have the will, but you And that's the
Speaker 1: talk about roster building. Roster building is is personality, it's
Speaker 1: skill set, it's uh position And there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: that goes on to building a right roster uh mentality, uh,
Speaker 1: from your coaches and all that kind of good stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: And so you know, every roster is gonna have its
Speaker 1: mixture of guys. But if you have the right amount
Speaker 1: of skill and the right amount of will, but skill
Speaker 1: most importantly, you gotta have that like that that puts
Speaker 1: you in contention, and then you work through all the
Speaker 1: rest of it. You know, as you build your roster,
Speaker 1: guys that just for whatever reason you call it selfishness,
Speaker 1: whatever reason you Ken Norton, h. Charles Haley, Toni's Holbert H.
Speaker 1: James Washington, you call it whatever you want. Is everybody
Speaker 1: James Washington selfish? But James Washington want to start. He
Speaker 1: wanted to make all the plays. I mean, he wasn't
Speaker 1: the most uh skilled guy, but we but he had
Speaker 1: that will I mean. And then you have Darren Woodson, smart,
Speaker 1: got all the tools, reset the market and how you
Speaker 1: play this game. He had We had always had full
Speaker 1: on offense, full on defense. And they weren't always stars,
Speaker 1: but they had that ability and they had that will
Speaker 1: and that drive to do it. And then guys like myself,
Speaker 1: you you build and you learn and you get and
Speaker 1: you get going and now you don't want to lose it.
Speaker 1: You you would do anything in the world lose weight.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys Now do you think who would be that
Speaker 1: for on defense offense? Now, I would say jay Ron
Speaker 1: Curse is a guy who has a bunch of will.
Speaker 1: Um uh Parsons La Parson. Parsons is a guy who's
Speaker 1: is a mixture of great will and great skill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like like like, of course, to get to
Speaker 1: the national football at your skill level has to be
Speaker 1: far above the average American male, right, But like Parsons
Speaker 1: is one of those guys who was just exceptional. It's
Speaker 1: like God's but a little bit more of that dude
Speaker 1: in his mixture when he was making Michael Parson. So
Speaker 1: is Michael is a mixture of a guy who has
Speaker 1: the will and then has the ultimate skill set to
Speaker 1: market and and and this is these are the kind
Speaker 1: of guys, the Michael lovers of the worlds where you
Speaker 1: when they speak, you listen, when they go, you follow
Speaker 1: because you're like, now only does the dude have the will,
Speaker 1: but he also has the skill that he can put
Speaker 1: it on, you know, on the on the field. So,
Speaker 1: but guys, like they said, like jay Ron Cursey is
Speaker 1: a guy who I wouldn't say necessarily the most skillful food,
Speaker 1: but he brings a level of will like and will.
Speaker 1: To me, it's a mixture of you know, are you
Speaker 1: willing to do all the things you have to do,
Speaker 1: the study, the preparation, taking care of your body, like
Speaker 1: that's the will part of it. That's the part of knowing.
Speaker 1: I ain't that I was roommates. I should say that
Speaker 1: he was roommates with me, but des Bryant was roommate
Speaker 1: of mine. And this was a guy who I've seen
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning at eight o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning and eat nothing but a handful of gummy bears
Speaker 1: and go out there and dominate practice, right like that?
Speaker 1: That's that that That ain't will. That's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of skill, you know. For me, I gotta get up early.
Speaker 1: I got to stratch, I got a hot up cold tub.
Speaker 1: I got to do all the other stuff to get
Speaker 1: myself prepared and ready to go. I had to make
Speaker 1: sure I knew every He was just so talented that
Speaker 1: he can go out there in practice the two hours
Speaker 1: on a on the stomach full of gummy wordalf diet.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. By Troy Mike Irvy, Emmy Smith,
Speaker 1: Larry Allen, Mark Stepnoski. I mean the list goes on
Speaker 1: and on of guys that had the skill and the
Speaker 1: will to do this type thing. And when and when
Speaker 1: you look and when you look, when you can't bill
Speaker 1: rosters like that. Now, yes, it costs too much money
Speaker 1: to bill rosters like that. But all of these guys
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I think were drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: coach Wooton and I think it was another coach from
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. I can't think of his name. They they
Speaker 1: could look at a guy watching out on film, go
Speaker 1: talk to a guy, and they knew this all this
Speaker 1: this dude, this dude gonna do whatever it takes. Look
Speaker 1: at their background, look at their family history, whatever it take.
Speaker 1: And with some people make all hear a lot of control.
Speaker 1: They know how to control that and touch the right
Speaker 1: buttons and get that thing flowing in the right direction.
Speaker 1: That is what we're missing. Does Dak have it? Dak
Speaker 1: has it? But Dak, how do I put this where?
Speaker 1: Dak needs a mentor. I think Dak needs a mentor,
Speaker 1: I really do, because you have not to me this need.
Speaker 1: You have not grown and maybe because of the injury,
Speaker 1: he has not grown from that rookie Dak or being
Speaker 1: on point on time, doing everything it takes to win.
Speaker 1: So now he's that Dac that you stand back there
Speaker 1: waiting for a wide receiver to come open. And that
Speaker 1: ain't that. That ain't why you brought him. Well maybe
Speaker 1: that's what what you thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: in the future, that's what you saw for him, but
Speaker 1: that ain't the same. Dak Fellas. He need a mentor,
Speaker 1: he needs somebody that say, hey, man, this is what
Speaker 1: you're good at, this is what you do. Dak has
Speaker 1: been a football player. He's been a quarterback. That's a
Speaker 1: football player. So yeah, that's what I believe. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break. Jesse, Jesse, you gonna hang out?
Speaker 1: Yea hang out? All right. We'll be back with Jesse
Speaker 1: Holly calling in live from New Orleans. Bobby Wagner got
Speaker 1: signed last week? How did the Rams keep finding money
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey had some uh, some guest scathing comments about
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Speaker 1: He was just yeah, just to me. And we had
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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, We'll tell you all that more, and I
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Speaker 1: Probably not. Jesse will probably be there. Jesse's a big
Speaker 1: boxing guy. And Nate your boxing guy, aren't you No,
Speaker 1: I'll be there. I got my tickets already. Nice. We
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Speaker 1: Amazing Star Magazine, Draft Edition, Guys Week, Well, it's coming
Speaker 1: out I think we're gonna have it available today. Oh,
Speaker 1: this afternoon, will have the digital available today, We'll have
Speaker 1: store locations. We should have a link up soon for
Speaker 1: the online. Yep, this is it you, thank you our man,
Speaker 1: Kyle Yoman did an amazing work. He did amazing work
Speaker 1: on scattering reports. We got one hundred and ten scouttering
Speaker 1: reports pretty in depth and then like five hundred players
Speaker 1: listed in here. And Will McClay gave us an exclusive interview.
Speaker 1: Great story on how he got to the Cowboys. Really
Speaker 1: interest really, so yeah, yeah, I want to read. Um,
Speaker 1: go to Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Star and we
Speaker 1: will have the links, the info where you can get it.
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff should be up either later today,
Speaker 1: definitely tomorrow if not. Um, but yeah, did you interview
Speaker 1: Will for that? No? Jeff Sullivan who actually works for
Speaker 1: Pennini slowly, Yeah, he freelance writer here and and he
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to talk with him. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's so interesting background from Wale. He kind of
Speaker 1: came from nowhere the arena leagues to now being one
Speaker 1: of the best talent evaluators in the league. So who
Speaker 1: are we drafting Kurt since you put the magazine together. Oh, glad,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you, but it sounds like just reading
Speaker 1: David Hellman and some of the others, it sounds like
Speaker 1: we'll have our choice of either wide receiver or interior
Speaker 1: lineman lineman. So me interesting. Do they take the the
Speaker 1: flash of the of the receiver and try to help
Speaker 1: Dak or do they beef up the front and what
Speaker 1: would you try to hate? The first round two through
Speaker 1: six go through the best the best player available like
Speaker 1: they did with Mike Gess you who you're with that
Speaker 1: that first pick unless that center and maybe I need
Speaker 1: to read up because I one thing I haven't done.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving it all in Will McClay has for the
Speaker 1: last four or five years, I've been going to mobile,
Speaker 1: I've been reading, I've been messing with Hellman, I've been
Speaker 1: messing with everybody. You know, broadest, you know what. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave it in, Will McClay hands Man. After the
Speaker 1: first round two through five, I'm knocking off another round.
Speaker 1: I don't want no sixth round picking on seven round
Speaker 1: pick unless hee a young. Uh so you stepped it
Speaker 1: up two through five Now I need yeah, because I
Speaker 1: want all of them. We got like five, we got
Speaker 1: like twenty fifth round picks. Get them all as all right?
Speaker 1: What about you, Jesse? Where would you go? First round?
Speaker 1: Gotta go, I gotta go, hold line, gotta go hold line.
Speaker 1: First round. I think this team if you don't, if
Speaker 1: you don't show up that offensive line, you're setting yourself up,
Speaker 1: stuff up a major, major failure. And we talked about it,
Speaker 1: talked about it. No, we're talked about it earlier. You
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, with Dak and having a will
Speaker 1: verse skill. If he's not protected man mentally and physically,
Speaker 1: he goes into a shout and we don't we don't
Speaker 1: need that. And if you don't protect him up front,
Speaker 1: that's what all offensive defensive line and put that line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and everything else followed. So I'm gonna get me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get me some old lineman, the shortest thing out.
Speaker 1: But it's in Cowboys fashion. A wide receiver will probably
Speaker 1: fall and we'll grab a wide receiver and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: there'll be a couple available. Kurt's got a great question
Speaker 1: for for Nate, for you and Jesse, would you use
Speaker 1: a first round pick on a good tackle, but knowing
Speaker 1: he might have to sit for a year. H huh, sir.
Speaker 1: If this dude gotta sit, why would he come in here?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, he won't. He won't. He won't
Speaker 1: sit long. He won't sit long because we know already
Speaker 1: know that Trenna know what three games that would be
Speaker 1: considered a wasted drag to sit more than him getting
Speaker 1: off the plane. The last time a tackle should sit
Speaker 1: in the first round is he getting off the plane.
Speaker 1: That's that's sitting at this press conference. That's it. After
Speaker 1: that thank you shouting after the press conference, he should
Speaker 1: be shattered up start thank you. Don't do that. I
Speaker 1: don't care about the first round. I don't care about
Speaker 1: the first round. I really don't. Don't. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's many great offensive rhyme and come out of the
Speaker 1: first round. I understand that. But my success has come
Speaker 1: more with second, third, fourth, fifth round picks. If you
Speaker 1: got the right office, lion coach, and you have Will
Speaker 1: McClay telling him what you want, they will find it.
Speaker 1: We talked to Jesus the other day. What's my man name, Jesus,
Speaker 1: Chris Chris Hall. I mean not Jesus, not to save
Speaker 1: you what I'm just saying that's what I call him,
Speaker 1: you know every noode. Hey Jesus, Oh yeah, yeah, Jesus
Speaker 1: working for if we do got Jesus working for you.
Speaker 1: We went to our little show. We you went to
Speaker 1: our show. We had sixty Yeah, he's talked to Jesus
Speaker 1: a couple of times. That's the miller lights of all. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: but I'm jess. I don't care about the first round. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to wide receiver, get him. But if
Speaker 1: he if he's not starting, whoever you get in the
Speaker 1: first round, if they're not on that field starting when
Speaker 1: we start two days and all that right there, that
Speaker 1: was a wasted pick and let through unlesson's injury, and
Speaker 1: then it's still a wasted pick because we've had a
Speaker 1: history of that. It's a wasted pick. Dallas Day was Friday,
Speaker 1: and then thirty visits or this week, and if you watch,
Speaker 1: if you watch thirty visits over the years, that usually
Speaker 1: tells you pretty good deal. Now, they didn't bring CD
Speaker 1: in for thirty visit because they didn't think they had
Speaker 1: a shot at him. They just thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: be completely gone. But other than CD, if you look back,
Speaker 1: probably I mean we'd have to go back and look,
Speaker 1: but they're pretty They usually bring in a guy that
Speaker 1: they get in the first round on thirty visits. If
Speaker 1: you if you pay attention to who they bring in
Speaker 1: and listen to you know, all the people, how important
Speaker 1: How important is that process to the scouts and the
Speaker 1: coaches and stuff to bring those guys in and talk
Speaker 1: to him for thirty visits? You know what? Uh? It's
Speaker 1: everything in the world, is it? Yeah? Why? Why why
Speaker 1: is it so important? Because you you could sit down
Speaker 1: and if you really like a guy, you you sit
Speaker 1: down and you you try to build a relationship right
Speaker 1: there if you can. You know, I don't believe in
Speaker 1: the stupid ignorant question is just to see let me
Speaker 1: see where his head and then asks him something stupid.
Speaker 1: But if I like Shannon hey man, how is your family?
Speaker 1: Give me a little background on you, on your past?
Speaker 1: What have you been through? What, what what you know? What?
Speaker 1: What trials have you had? What great things that make
Speaker 1: you laugh? And what makes you smile? I want to
Speaker 1: get the notice person and hoping he would open up
Speaker 1: and be truthful with me as best he can. Because
Speaker 1: they realize that they're being an interviewed too. You get
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, oh yeah, I want to see because
Speaker 1: that is where that's that kind of third and fourth round,
Speaker 1: especially that fourth and that fifth round lineman. See that
Speaker 1: be lurking man, because I'm telling you, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: I ain't talking about the first round. Y'all can have Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even I ain't gonna even be watching the
Speaker 1: draft on the first round. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: he'll be glued to the TV. Okay, well we can,
Speaker 1: we can we text it to the group chat. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they took him in the first round. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what we'll get all The only way I would
Speaker 1: be disappointed and not watching the first day of the draft,
Speaker 1: the first round, if they go out and get that
Speaker 1: kid from Georgia, that big, deepest from George. I hate
Speaker 1: that I've missed it right there. That's the only guy
Speaker 1: that they would excite me, ain't do you think so?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have him than Davis from Georgia or
Speaker 1: would you have a rather have an offensive linement that
Speaker 1: big dude from Georgia Because we ain't how do we
Speaker 1: ever year get knocked out of the playoffs in the
Speaker 1: first round. We consistently get thank you you. We consistently
Speaker 1: get ran over in the first game every year. If
Speaker 1: we can't see that as cowboy fans and it's cowboy personnel. Okay, y'all,
Speaker 1: if we lose in the first round, what will be
Speaker 1: the main reason we lose in the first round? Oh?
Speaker 1: Somebody run for one hundred and eighty yards Jordan Davis.
Speaker 1: That's what's his measurables? Big man? What three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty pounds and six six three forty one He ran
Speaker 1: a four point seven eight that's a load of beef.
Speaker 1: That's a truck load. But a guy like that go
Speaker 1: to the restroom and do a number two. Listen to
Speaker 1: us when a guy like that with a guy like
Speaker 1: that the restroom and do a number two and he
Speaker 1: get up off the toilet, and the whole foundation said,
Speaker 1: thank you. What you're hanging with the boy scout? You
Speaker 1: don't see that. That ain't here. That's till see, Jess,
Speaker 1: we got it. We move it up. We're moving up, baby,
Speaker 1: Chris got the footage. That's a big boy. How important
Speaker 1: or thirty busits? In your eyes? They're huge, like big David.
Speaker 1: She know they're they're they're big. Not only not only
Speaker 1: do you get a chance to look at these guys.
Speaker 1: You don't when you're at the combine. You're limited with
Speaker 1: the time that you can agen to still with these guys, right,
Speaker 1: You only get a chance to spend some amount of
Speaker 1: time with them. Um, you put them through your workouts,
Speaker 1: so you know a lot of time when you go
Speaker 1: to these pro days or even the combine. Again, your
Speaker 1: time is limited when you go to pro days, especially
Speaker 1: these top guys, they put on the workout that they
Speaker 1: want you to see, the accent, their gifts. When you
Speaker 1: bring them in your building, you get them a chance
Speaker 1: to look at your doctors, your trainers, your coaches in
Speaker 1: your system. Right, so when you get a chance to
Speaker 1: really evaluate them from head to toe, inside and out,
Speaker 1: whether it's tryticals, whether it's X rays, whether the mentals,
Speaker 1: the physicals, all of it. And then you put them
Speaker 1: on the field and then you get a chance to
Speaker 1: sit down and meet with each and every one of them.
Speaker 1: So that time, it's it's the combine is more like
Speaker 1: speed dating. When you get a chance to bring them
Speaker 1: in for your thirty visit, it's down candlelit dinner. You're right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna chance to like you know, tell me what
Speaker 1: your interests are, who you be with, things that make
Speaker 1: you smile, what numbers that that's a biggie lyric, But
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. But that's that's the kind of
Speaker 1: thing that you get a chance to do in your
Speaker 1: thirty visites. So it's important because this is the moment
Speaker 1: where you get a chance to really ask your questions,
Speaker 1: evaluate them with your guys and your facilities, and truly
Speaker 1: try to get a gage on It's just a guy.
Speaker 1: This guy truly a good fit for who we are
Speaker 1: and what we do as a football organization. Who is
Speaker 1: the what is the last time, Jesse? Are you guys?
Speaker 1: I part of the NEVA asks and Heilman is one
Speaker 1: of these guys. What is the last time a draft
Speaker 1: has been dominated by down lineman, defensive lineman, line backers.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time, you know, where they've just
Speaker 1: been consumed with quarterback. Yeah, I was gonna say this
Speaker 1: seems like the first time in a while that the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks haven't really Yeah, I mean wide receiver has been
Speaker 1: the last few years has been about wide receivers and quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: When when has it been Jess? It's been a while, Huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's been a while. I mean, but again,
Speaker 1: the league is, you know, it's always gonna highlight the
Speaker 1: offensive guys. It's always sexy either have a receiver or quarterback.
Speaker 1: Those are the guys who go on the billboards and
Speaker 1: sell all the jerseys and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So and then you try to kind of piece your
Speaker 1: your defensive lineman stuff like that together. You know, later
Speaker 1: on in the draft, I think it was like twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen um, but that that what was twenty twenty sixty
Speaker 1: and twenty seventeen um when you had guys like Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: in those later rounds, you had guys like Chris Jones, Right,
Speaker 1: Chris Jones was a second a round pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are other players like that that they got in
Speaker 1: later rounds that have made a tremendous impact. But no,
Speaker 1: very too often you just don't, you know, you don't
Speaker 1: highlight a lot of the big boys or the defensive
Speaker 1: guys one or two here and there. But you gotta start.
Speaker 1: You gotta start putting defensive guys on the field because
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks are getting more athletic, your running backs are
Speaker 1: getting faster, your receivers, guy, lead, I mean you saw
Speaker 1: the draft, the combine. This year, everybody's running the four three,
Speaker 1: and so if you don't start putting guys out there
Speaker 1: defensively that can match that, you'll be in. You'll be
Speaker 1: in this foot race that you'll never be able to win. Jesse,
Speaker 1: before we let you go and go to our final break,
Speaker 1: any parting shots you want to take it? Kurt, come
Speaker 1: on now, Uh you don't, Kurch, my guy, Hurch, my guy.
Speaker 1: I love Kurt and uh but Kurt, y'all, y'all gotta
Speaker 1: take this out to night babies. It's okay. I'll bring you.
Speaker 1: I'll bring you a carolt of t shirt to wear
Speaker 1: next week. I'll bring you. Okay, we'll see that. Oh
Speaker 1: do y'all want to make a friendly wager on the show,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Man, you doubt, I'm more than confident
Speaker 1: of my tart heels. Whatever whatever sent off for you, Kate.
Speaker 1: So whatever whatever loser has to wear the opposing the
Speaker 1: opposing guy's shirt that they bring to a shirt a
Speaker 1: little sweet on the show shirt and hatter just shirt
Speaker 1: because Jesse just as a hat guy, Hurt, I'm not
Speaker 1: a hat guy. So I'm I'm, I'm I'm bringing my
Speaker 1: jersey that Kurt has to wear. Yes, Yes, all day long.
Speaker 1: You will be wearing a Jesse Holly North Carolina bat
Speaker 1: jersey all next week. I would wear that. I would
Speaker 1: wear that on a Friday here. I like all right,
Speaker 1: so Kurt autograph. Now you'll wear it because you if
Speaker 1: you lose the bet, you you will wear it, and
Speaker 1: we will make you wear it. I'll wear it on
Speaker 1: the show, for sure. Wear it on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear You're gonna wear a shirt all day long,
Speaker 1: and I'll do random facetimes. Okay, I like it. I
Speaker 1: like it. You heard it. There, there's the bet. I
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Speaker 1: you by Draft Kings. So all right, Jesse, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us. Man, go and join New Orleans. Hope you
Speaker 1: don't chew your fingernails off waiting on the game to
Speaker 1: start tonight. Send us a send us a picture of
Speaker 1: your seats um and we'll talk about it next Monday.
Speaker 1: Whenever she was about to say, send you a picture
Speaker 1: of but go ahead, well wait hey that too, if
Speaker 1: you want to. I know you're in New Orleans, so
Speaker 1: I'm sure, there's plenty of that going around too, So Jesse,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We'll take our last break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about some fun stuff on
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey said the Cowboys told him they would draft
Speaker 1: him in twenty sixteen, but they took Zeke. You wanted
Speaker 1: a little fun fact there, Kurt I was on the
Speaker 1: red carpet for that event. That was the first and
Speaker 1: only time we've ever sent social media to a draft,
Speaker 1: and it was because we had the fourth pick and
Speaker 1: they sent me in Roxanne. We flew up, believe we
Speaker 1: flew up commercial and we got to go to the
Speaker 1: draft and we I interviewed Jalen Ramsey on the Red Carpet.
Speaker 1: YEP interviewed Zeke on the Red carpet and this crop
Speaker 1: top had no idea what I was doing. It was
Speaker 1: before I hosted any show six years ago. Had no
Speaker 1: clue what I was doing. We just had a mic.
Speaker 1: Rocks had to video it, so I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll ask the questions, like some crazy behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff like you had to go here and
Speaker 1: there and you weren't sure where you're gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, because they they the stage where they drafted
Speaker 1: him was in Chicago's first time they ever had it
Speaker 1: outside of where they normally have it, and the stage
Speaker 1: was way away from like the green room where everybody stayed,
Speaker 1: so they had to golf cart people over there, and
Speaker 1: it was it was it was kind of really weird,
Speaker 1: but we got to uh, we got to talk to Jalen,
Speaker 1: and I remember the rumor was they were going I
Speaker 1: remember the rumor internally was they were going to get
Speaker 1: Ramsey if he was there. And then on draft day
Speaker 1: we started hearing they might be interested in Zeke, and
Speaker 1: then anyway we wound up. We wound up drafting Zeke
Speaker 1: and Rocks and I got to fly back on on
Speaker 1: Jerry's jet with Zeke and his high roller, his agent
Speaker 1: and pretty pretty cool little experience. Yeah. So Kurt's question is, Nate,
Speaker 1: whatever your phone? Oh I dropped it? Would you break it?
Speaker 1: While back? I ain't ready was broke? But anyway, go
Speaker 1: ahead on. Kurt wants to know did they make a
Speaker 1: mistake by drafting Zeke and not Jalen Ramsey Nah? Nah nah.
Speaker 1: Jalen had come out and just send it. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: had told him to take him, and then when that
Speaker 1: fourth pick came up, they took Zeke and he went five.
Speaker 1: He went the next pick to Jessie See because as
Speaker 1: great as as great as Jalen is, it was our
Speaker 1: defense ready for him, right well, we were, we ready
Speaker 1: to build things around him. You know, he's been in
Speaker 1: the league now, both of these guys, but to stay
Speaker 1: fifth year m and he considered the top one of
Speaker 1: the top of not the top cornerback. And we just
Speaker 1: put things in place so we can help our corners.
Speaker 1: You need you need pass rushers, you need run stoppers,
Speaker 1: so these guys can be everything that they can be.
Speaker 1: We didn't have that, and Jalen would have been mad upset.
Speaker 1: We've been nosing, and now we'd have been upset at
Speaker 1: him and he would have been gone, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he'd have been whitt the Rams again, just
Speaker 1: like he was from Jacksonville, and we would have been
Speaker 1: a sitting of like, wow, well you think, Kurt, we
Speaker 1: know you hate Zeke? What I do? I do not hate?
Speaker 1: WoT hurt? I'm hurt, Kurt. I mean you finally got
Speaker 1: Blake jar One out of here, and don't do that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Zeke out of here now. I did
Speaker 1: not have anything to do with Blake Jarman on herein't
Speaker 1: got a minute. It's a bad luck. So man, who
Speaker 1: was poor Blake? I think the long term, I think
Speaker 1: you'd have to say Jalen might have been the better pick,
Speaker 1: just because yeah, long if you want a long term,
Speaker 1: you got a super Bowl. He was a big player
Speaker 1: in them getting that super Bowl. Banged up, he spent
Speaker 1: the last two years. But I tell you what, if
Speaker 1: you would have I'm with Nate, if you would have
Speaker 1: gone that, this team would look completely different. Like if
Speaker 1: you would have invested in him, you would have had
Speaker 1: to go I think more defensive side. They built this
Speaker 1: around Zeke with Dak and the receivers, they went out
Speaker 1: in the old line and all that like this, would
Speaker 1: I think you would be in a completely different place
Speaker 1: if you would have done that six years Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think running backs can be found in later rounds
Speaker 1: and you could have used I agree hundred shot, you know,
Speaker 1: and I agree one hundred percent. But were you willing
Speaker 1: see Jalen when he was at Jacksonville, they had a
Speaker 1: hell of a defense, and when that defense couldn't carry
Speaker 1: that offense anymore, he got out. Yeah, okay, he would
Speaker 1: have started here, no no defense at all when they
Speaker 1: were the fifth and points allowed, fourteenth in yards allowed.
Speaker 1: But when he got to the playoffs, guess would happened?
Speaker 1: Well you know what I mean. We also might have
Speaker 1: started running the ball. Yeah it is again. Don't start me.
Speaker 1: We've been having a good show. Don't start me up,
Speaker 1: bill self. Who else was in that draft? Joey Bosa?
Speaker 1: It was Winston and uh Golf for the two top picks.
Speaker 1: I remember they were because I remember Miles Jack's name
Speaker 1: came up. Joey Bosa's name came up, the Forest Buckner,
Speaker 1: Jack Cullin, Ronnie Stanley. Isn't all of them guys? Been
Speaker 1: close to the Super Bowl in the NFC an FC
Speaker 1: Championship game. Just about all those draft picks. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: see that that was a class. Oh yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: class of athletes. So just to say who was because
Speaker 1: golf then fell off the map, from from a super
Speaker 1: Bowl to the map off the map, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys had a great draft. I mean not
Speaker 1: only was it Zeke, but you had Jalen Smith, who
Speaker 1: was good for a couple of years. He had MALIEK. Collins,
Speaker 1: who's you know, he's all right, Dak Prescott. Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: was a six round pick that year. I mean, Anthony's
Speaker 1: still fighting too many. That was a good draft, Anthony.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, when you have a pass rush
Speaker 1: or you have somebody that like they can stop the run,
Speaker 1: that's what we did for all. Yeah, we acted like
Speaker 1: we can stop the run. Kurt, anything else you want
Speaker 1: to talk about before I talk about I want to
Speaker 1: hear about your night. Man. This is a you know,
Speaker 1: go ahead on the man, because you know what, rastle many,
Speaker 1: you must be big as huge as their super Bowl. Brother.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in church right Pastor delivering a great word
Speaker 1: about education of God and how I should being in
Speaker 1: school since I mean, he is going off and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting Oh yeah, man, man, big nude. He was
Speaker 1: in a rastle many a long time ago. They had
Speaker 1: a documentary. I'm like, hold, oh, you know when we
Speaker 1: had in the middle of the service. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: just want to talk about the man. But I just
Speaker 1: want to let you know how I saw you. Man,
Speaker 1: they had your name down. Now I'm going to wrestle
Speaker 1: many of the night. I'm geek. That's what happened. Praise God,
Speaker 1: go ahead, and he went home. Man it dude was right.
Speaker 1: But wow, wrestle Mania. Okay, Yeah, they bring in more
Speaker 1: more production gear than they did for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: What somebody on our production team told me, their load
Speaker 1: in was bigger than what they brought in for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Saw all the side where they come out
Speaker 1: that stage and how many people all together they announced
Speaker 1: I think seventy seven. There's two nights, Saturday night and
Speaker 1: then Sunday night. Yeah. They sent out a press release.
Speaker 1: They shattered the red mind. It was one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty over one hundred fifty thousands, highest number of attendance
Speaker 1: and highest revenue I think for WWE. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the highlight where they they inducted Undertaker into the WWE
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and he came him out both nights,
Speaker 1: and then Stone Cold came out of retire. It's been
Speaker 1: eighteen years since he last wrestled, and he stunned Jim McMahon.
Speaker 1: Are not Jim McMahon. That's when we need Rob Fellas
Speaker 1: help us out here. Just go blank now, Chris Beam
Speaker 1: help us out. Well, he's he's Spence McMahon. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of the Bears. Quarterback put the Stone Cold stunner on
Speaker 1: him and Vince missed his Q and fell back into
Speaker 1: the ropes and Stone Cold had to kind of chase
Speaker 1: him down and he stunned him. And then of course
Speaker 1: he drank about fifteen beers after the match. People, he
Speaker 1: didn't drop a p he didn't drop one. They were
Speaker 1: chunking him from the They throw him and he opens
Speaker 1: them both up and he hits them together and then
Speaker 1: he pours him down his throat. So he probably drank
Speaker 1: twelve beers in the ring. And then uh so he
Speaker 1: came out both nights. That was pretty cool. And then
Speaker 1: uh Roman Reins and um Rock Lesner were the main event,
Speaker 1: brock Lesner lost. So who are the new guys? Who
Speaker 1: are the new studs in wrestling? Uh? Austin theory is
Speaker 1: like McMahon's protege. He's a new guy, a guy named
Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre. That's a He's Scottish. Okay, okay, dude, he
Speaker 1: talked like Scottish. Yeah, he talked, Paul, he's Scottish. Yeah, yeah, Scottish.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was Saturday. Ain't doing it, bro Chris.
Speaker 1: Chris was there with his six foot tall, five year
Speaker 1: old Oh man, how do you? How do you like it?
Speaker 1: Chris Man? He loved it? Man, did he really? He
Speaker 1: stayed the whole time today. Yeah. We left um because
Speaker 1: I gotta. I got a text from Mom saying, you
Speaker 1: guys need to get home. So he got school tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's ten thirty. He needs to get homes o. Man
Speaker 1: sleeping the way home. So man, he liked it though.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he he didn't know what to think at first,
Speaker 1: and I got we uh we we came in. He's like, Dad,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. All right, He's gonna love this. So
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah. The production value you of that theme, man,
Speaker 1: with all the pyro and the and the LEDs Ye.
Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxville had a match and we Man came back
Speaker 1: from under the bottom of the wrong That was probably
Speaker 1: the highlight of the night. Party Boy showed up. Remember
Speaker 1: Party Boy that he'd rip his pants off and jump
Speaker 1: like shake his jump. Yeah he did. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: guy who was fighting I can't remember his name was
Speaker 1: was scared of him. Oh it was Sammy's ane. He
Speaker 1: pulled off his pants and he was like, I'm out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he dropt out the ring. They Johnny Knoxville brought a
Speaker 1: table that had mouse traps glued to it and threw
Speaker 1: him over the ropes into the mouse trap table. That
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Johnny Knoxville throw anybody over. That was
Speaker 1: the That was probably the best thing of the night.
Speaker 1: It was really good. And Pat McAfee wrestled um who
Speaker 1: do he wrestle Chris Austin the Austin theory Austin theory
Speaker 1: and he I tell you what McAfee, that dude is. Dude,
Speaker 1: he is athletics did some big flip on he jumped
Speaker 1: from flat footed f yeah, tell him on to the
Speaker 1: top the top rope. Flat foot had jumped up and
Speaker 1: then did a backflip off the rope and landed on
Speaker 1: the guy. He was super athletic that I was surprised.
Speaker 1: And then that's when Stone Cold came out in a
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon seventy eight years old, took his shirt off
Speaker 1: and had had a tank top on. And I mean
Speaker 1: for seventy eight man, he's in his business. He's in
Speaker 1: good shape. Yeah, and then he got stunned and fell
Speaker 1: out of the ring and he's really good. Probably the
Speaker 1: coolest part of the night as I went with Corey Miller,
Speaker 1: he's our director in game presentation. We were a little bit, uh,
Speaker 1: we were a little bit late, so we went and
Speaker 1: got on one of the big service elevators where they
Speaker 1: you know, they bring all the catering stuff in the
Speaker 1: trash and all that. So we get on and the
Speaker 1: ladies shutting the door, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she hits the button stops and it opens back up
Speaker 1: and Kevin Owens that wrestled Stone Cold Saturday night, he
Speaker 1: gets on the elevator and I don't remember know if
Speaker 1: you remember Trip Stratus man. I had such a crush
Speaker 1: on her. She was so good looking still is. She
Speaker 1: got on the elevator with us and then there was
Speaker 1: another lady. No, I was kind of like I talked
Speaker 1: to Kevin Owens. He looked at Corey shirt man, how
Speaker 1: we go from the lady to we talked to Corey?
Speaker 1: That's a blow. I was like, I was kind of
Speaker 1: flabber gassed. I couldn't you know whoa And he was
Speaker 1: standing out man and he told Corey he was like,
Speaker 1: I like that shirt man. He's like, I stole one
Speaker 1: of those from the Access store the other day. And
Speaker 1: we were like really because he went through and he
Speaker 1: did a bit where he destroyed all of Stone Cold's
Speaker 1: merchandise at the convention Center and went through the whole
Speaker 1: section was stolen racks over and I said, did you
Speaker 1: do it when you were destroying the store And he
Speaker 1: was like no, actually, he said I saw it when
Speaker 1: I was destroying the store, and whenever I walked back out,
Speaker 1: I just grabbed it off the racket left with it.
Speaker 1: Hold on, man, what was the lady name that? You said?
Speaker 1: Chris Stratus And she walks on the elevator. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you can't talk to I was due. I was more
Speaker 1: comfortable talking to him now. It was her. I crossed
Speaker 1: oars truck man. I was starstruck. Yeah she was. She's
Speaker 1: she still got it? Man, how old is she? Say?
Speaker 1: Can you believe that my boy boy had one shot
Speaker 1: and blew it on the trash elevator? So, but it
Speaker 1: was it was really cool. Let's if you've never been
Speaker 1: to a WrestleMania, if one one comes near you, you
Speaker 1: should definitely, even if you're not into wrestling, just to
Speaker 1: check out the production and grown men acting like little kids.
Speaker 1: And was it older people there, my freend Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because that that is who keep This is unlike baseball,
Speaker 1: whereas all older people this rest it breeds like kids. Men.
Speaker 1: I've seen so many men with championship belts. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you everybody was walking around with the championship.
Speaker 1: It don't it don't take much convincing Chris kid five
Speaker 1: years old, six foot, he's already into it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's you don't even have to know anything about it.
Speaker 1: It's it's so cool. Man. We're gonna buy some some
Speaker 1: of the toys for him. Did you go to anything?
Speaker 1: I was surprised. There's all these like smaller wrestling matches
Speaker 1: going on around the city. Yeah, so they had you
Speaker 1: go to any of those things? I didn't. They had
Speaker 1: I think a next nx T show, which is kind
Speaker 1: of like their minor league. They had that at the
Speaker 1: AC on Friday night. But even some local like there's
Speaker 1: another one to night too, right is there? I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then Monday night raws yea a tonight. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: had open tryouts out here on the plaza and and uh,
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back. On Friday, they had four rings set
Speaker 1: up on the plaza and anybody could just come watch.
Speaker 1: Isaiah actually went and tried out six years ago. He
Speaker 1: went to their training facility Orlando, and he said that.
Speaker 1: He said they all actually offered him really and for
Speaker 1: the amount of money that they were paying, and he
Speaker 1: would had to move to Orlando. He's like, he shook
Speaker 1: their hands at thanks and got on the plane and
Speaker 1: flew back. So but yeah, he actually went through. He
Speaker 1: said there was about fifty of them, and uh he
Speaker 1: was he was into it, he said, he said, I
Speaker 1: think he went Saturday night. His kids or big time
Speaker 1: into it. And you said somebody famous was here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: So Logan Paul wrestled Saturday night his brother Jake Paul
Speaker 1: YouTube YouTuber. Yeah, the guy that's into boxing, right right, right,
Speaker 1: he was actually up here. Uh went out there on
Speaker 1: the field and was running some routes, so they actually
Speaker 1: had him up had his video up here on the NFL.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it wasn't wrestling with him, No, he was. He
Speaker 1: was in town to support his brother. His brother wrestled
Speaker 1: Saturday Night with Mike the miz Um and they beat
Speaker 1: the Mysterious Runcle's notable additions Randy Gregory there man, that
Speaker 1: hurts me. Wow. All right, fellas well, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: out of here, Kurt, good luck tonight man, great show man.
Speaker 1: Good luck tonight, Nate. Thanks for bringing it. I'm glad
Speaker 1: we got a week before we out of here. From
Speaker 1: you man, I can't wait. That's gonna be a good
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good bet. I like, I hope
Speaker 1: Jesse wins. You have to win. Are you gonna talk
Speaker 1: noise to see Kurt wearing another man's jersey? Wow, that's
Speaker 1: especially soft. It's gonna be like it's a tank top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't wearing I wear a shirt or something under it. On.
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon wore a tank top. Kurt, you can do it.
Speaker 1: You're not a seventy eight. I passed mister Jones in
Speaker 1: the hall today. Could you imagine if I passed him
Speaker 1: wearing nothing? But yes, yes, yes, you know that's I
Speaker 1: think that's the first time. That's the first time I
Speaker 1: have ever seen him on our floor when it wasn't
Speaker 1: with a group of people, like walking to or from
Speaker 1: a press conference. He was by himself and walked by
Speaker 1: my office and Nick was in there, and Nick like,
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, how are you? Nick, like looked at
Speaker 1: me like I was like, I think that's the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen him. Time. He may be lost, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where where does he go? Sometime you like to walk
Speaker 1: around And I hate to say this because if you don't,
Speaker 1: we know how good the Joneses are. Sometimes you like
Speaker 1: to walk around and see what you really own. Just
Speaker 1: you just look at it. Don't take it the wrong
Speaker 1: way out there, y'all. Just take a stroll. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: like you walk around your house sometime like this mine.
Speaker 1: He's walking. It's a short walk for me. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: shorter for me. So don't worry about me too, do it. William,
Speaker 1: sorry for your loss this weekend, but glad you got
Speaker 1: to experience that. Well, you got a ticket, so you're good.
Speaker 1: You did good. Wall. You gotta ticket, you gotta upgrade man, Chris.
Speaker 1: Thanks for keeping us slore after. Thanks for keeping us
Speaker 1: yeah he did. Thanks for keeping us on the air,
Speaker 1: Will Thanks for keeping the live streams up. We will
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