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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields

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Speaker 1: Huddle Group, Jaguar Senior writer John Oser, NFL network analyst

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Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatterick

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Speaker 1: bringing you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. Huddle Up

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Speaker 1: starts right.

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Speaker 2: Now and welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, the audio edition

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Speaker 3: for the off season.

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Speaker 2: It is February twelfth.

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Speaker 3: JP Shaddrick, John Oser. We're at the Hyundai studios inside

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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center and Bucky Brooks is with us

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Speaker 3: out in Los Angeles. Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks brought

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Speaker 3: Go to Fieldsauto dot com. Well, the super Bowl is

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Speaker 3: in the rearview, Bucky, and we are back.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I am great with some JO is good being back JP? Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: super bowls in the books.

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Speaker 2: That means we can cast us and start thinking about

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Speaker 2: next year. Next year.

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Speaker 5: Next year is always comes around. And here we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here we are. Combines coming up less than two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll be there. We got all, We get all the

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Speaker 2: dinner reservations lined up. Yeah, everything there you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 5: Pork chop Buckle make his debut again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, man, don't need to waste time, to waste time.

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Speaker 5: I think it was a pork chop.

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Speaker 4: It was, it was. It was a pork chop. I

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Speaker 4: got tied up. I just happened to come right as

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Speaker 4: it was played.

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, perfect time.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a veteran play by you. You don't just

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Speaker 3: sit there through all the all the other stuff. We'll

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Speaker 3: get to that, of course. We'll have the show at

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Speaker 3: the Combine at Radio Row in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Time plenty to get to.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, in this off season so far, plenty of change

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Speaker 3: with the coaching staff, all new, Tony Boselli is in.

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Speaker 3: They're interviewing general managers right now. And you know, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't get much more of a rebuild than all of

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Speaker 3: that Buckey all combined together. So of those three changes,

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Speaker 3: three pillars of the organization, which one should have the

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Speaker 3: most focused this offseason?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to say which one should have the

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Speaker 4: most focused because they all are tied together. Tony taken

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Speaker 4: over as EVP is certainly important the things that he

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Speaker 4: is managing impacts not only the coach, but also impacts

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Speaker 4: the front office. So look, he's in a very important

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Speaker 4: and prominent role. Liam Cohen is in charge of the

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Speaker 4: stuff that happens on the field in terms of the

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Speaker 4: x's and o's, the tactics, the strategy, the culture, all

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Speaker 4: of that stuff falls on him and the general manager.

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Speaker 4: Whenever he gets in the building, he'll be in charge

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Speaker 4: of putting the pieces of the puzzle together, making sure

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Speaker 4: that the coaches have exactly what they need to be

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Speaker 4: able to execute the x's and o's. Look, I would

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Speaker 4: say this is very similar to the way government should operate,

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Speaker 4: where you have a balance the system in place. You

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Speaker 4: have these three branches, but it's really important that they

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Speaker 4: all work together for the team to operate at its best.

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Speaker 5: What's going to be the key, Bucky, I mean obviously

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Speaker 5: working together and we don't know the GM yet, but

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Speaker 5: a shot has said this being a coach centric organization,

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Speaker 5: and I know Tony is very focused on supporting Liam

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Speaker 5: Cohen's vision. How does that dynamic work and what's the

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Speaker 5: key to it? I would think just sort of knowing

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Speaker 5: going in what the mission is is priority one right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it has to be established. Now.

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Speaker 4: The thing is, we could talk about being coach centric,

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Speaker 4: but it still has to be a thing that the

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Speaker 4: organization has some core values that everyone has to adhere to.

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Speaker 4: Then it's about the football people, I would say, Tony,

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Speaker 4: Liam and whoever is the general manager, making sure that

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that.

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Speaker 4: They won't disagree on players and those things, but the

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Speaker 4: core values of who comes into the building, what you're

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Speaker 2: As it relates to Tony.

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Speaker 4: And the general manager of support and Liam Cohen, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there is a disagreement between coach and front office, maybe

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Speaker 4: Tony can cast a deciding vote on the top or

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Speaker 4: It's just about having those protocols in place. That look, man,

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Speaker 4: everyone works together, everyone's.

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Speaker 2: Opinion is valued.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, when a decision

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Speaker 2: No hidden agendas, nothing beyond that.

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Speaker 4: It's all about making sure that the Jaguars in the

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Speaker 4: best position to win when they take the field next year.

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Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on Liam Cohen's offense

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Speaker 5: and sort of how that expertise translates into a new system.

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Speaker 5: But I sense Bucky, and now tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: But in the last four or five years, you've gotten

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Speaker 5: to know Tony better than you probably did before, just

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Speaker 5: this right that you've talked to him a lot about

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Speaker 5: I have too. Tell me and tell the fans who

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Speaker 5: maybe ce seventy one is the guy in the gold jacket,

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Speaker 5: what he's going to bring to this role that matters

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Speaker 5: in terms of organization building.

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Speaker 4: Number one thing is he loves the organization, and he's

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Speaker 2: There's something too coming back.

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Speaker 4: To a place where you played, it's a little special

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Speaker 4: From a football standpoint, Tony believes in old school football.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a guy that believes in physical football.

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Speaker 4: He embraces the violence of it, but he also believes

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Speaker 4: that it should be played the right way. Many look, man,

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Speaker 4: everyone is pulling the boat in the same direction.

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Speaker 2: Your teammates are valued.

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Speaker 4: It's really important that you have people that are willing

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Speaker 4: That's coaches, front office people, everybody in the building. The

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Speaker 4: he's learning how to kind of play his role and

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Speaker 4: it's just really important that the communication and dialogue is

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Speaker 4: It's honest. Everyone is transparent, and if you have that

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Speaker 2: We could talk about the core values and.

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Speaker 4: What you believe in over and over and over again,

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Speaker 4: but those things have to be more than just words

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Speaker 4: be a leaving, breathing document in terms of this is

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Speaker 4: what we believe in, this is who the Jags are,

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Speaker 4: and we should feel that.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be something that people have to tell us impressors.

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Speaker 4: We should be able to look at the Jaguars play

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Speaker 4: and feel what they talk about the values being.

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Speaker 2: And then it's on him to stay.

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Speaker 4: In constant communication with Liam Cohen and the Future Gym

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Speaker 4: it isn't, to fix it right away. So look, he

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Speaker 4: has a huge role, big responsibilities, but just like he

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Speaker 4: was as a player, I think he will attack it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few organizations that have that clearly. I

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Speaker 3: mean Baltimore is one of those steelers. You know what

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Speaker 3: couple of examples that the Jaguars are aspiring towards. It's

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Speaker 3: a huddle up with Bucky Brooks. You know, Liam Cohen

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Speaker 3: is thirty nine years old. So there's that Hohle Oh,

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Speaker 3: he's coming from the young as a young coach. He's

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Speaker 3: coming from LA He's in the McVeigh tree. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: do all these things on offense. But then at his

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Speaker 3: everybody together. But to give us your first glimpse of

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Speaker 3: Leon Cohen as the head coach and that type of messaging, Hey,

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Speaker 3: this is it still comes down to the trenches. Even

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Speaker 3: though they might do some some new kind of inventive

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Speaker 2: It's always about the basics.

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Speaker 4: And to give you some context on the backstory's connection

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Speaker 2: They have alpha dogs throughout their roster.

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Speaker 4: In their locker room, they challenge each other, they hold

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Speaker 4: and defense. Liam Korn certainly learned well. He had an

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Speaker 4: when you really kind of lift up the hood and

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Speaker 4: look at the reasons behind the success of the Bucks, yes,

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans played a huge role in that.

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Speaker 4: But when they were struggling, they got to running the

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Speaker 4: lot of that was due to their offensive line and

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Speaker 4: It becomes a priority. It's not about being interested in it,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting. I think in I guess I'm engaging

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Speaker 3: It was announced earlier this week. Who won't go through

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Speaker 5: Yeah, clearly. I mean you could tell by the interview list.

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Speaker 4: Just eliminate as many distractions as you can. When it

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Speaker 2: Where they were more zone based than man based.

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Speaker 4: It's having everybody on the same page so that this

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Speaker 4: team can execute it at a high level. And I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna say this, like, these guys are really good teachers.

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Speaker 4: They're very experienced in terms of how long they've been

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Speaker 4: in the league and what they've been asked to do.

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Speaker 4: And I just in knowing the personalities of the team,

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Speaker 4: I feel like there'd be a really good connection between

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Speaker 4: coaches and players and hopefully that translates into really efficient

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Speaker 4: and effective play.

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Speaker 3: That linebackers coach you're talking about for the Jags, Tim Locabu.

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Speaker 4: Who was yeah, Tim mccabu, Yeah, he was the defense

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Speaker 4: coording at the Boston College under Jeff Haffley. And so

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Speaker 4: when we think about all of the system and being

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Speaker 4: able to put it together is really important because it's

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Speaker 4: not only that the macro with the groups is being

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Speaker 4: able to go in those meeting rooms and give the

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Speaker 4: explanations to the micro units to be able to really

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Speaker 4: detail it out so everyone knows exactly what they're doing

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Speaker 4: and how they're supposed to do it.

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Speaker 5: I want to get back to what you were talking

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Speaker 5: about with the scheme, because I'm not smart enough to

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Speaker 5: be able to dissect it the way you can, Bucky.

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Speaker 5: But I remember when the Jags were playing the Packers

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Speaker 5: last year, Jeff Logoman and Tony talking a lot about

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Speaker 5: their scheme, which they do every week. Maybe a little

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Speaker 5: more about the Packers pretty innovative. Can you break that

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Speaker 5: down a little more? What's different about it? Maybe that

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Speaker 5: fans can grasp and a nun skull like me can grasp.

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Speaker 4: First thing that's going to stand out is more zone

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Speaker 4: than man. And one of the reasons why they want

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Speaker 4: to play more zone is because the more odds that

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Speaker 4: you have on the quarterback are more.

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Speaker 2: Likely or to get interceptions.

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Speaker 4: If this was baseball, they always talk about in baseball,

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Speaker 4: you steal basis off the picture, not to capture many

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Speaker 4: My eyes are on the picture when he goes into

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Speaker 4: the windup, I take off.

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Speaker 2: Very similar in football.

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Speaker 4: If my eyes are always on the quarterback when he

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Speaker 4: begins his wind up, I get early breaks. So it's

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Speaker 4: the faster reactions to the ball, the rally and tackle.

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Speaker 4: All of those things are designed to do it. The

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Speaker 4: creativity of the scheme allows you to play with multiple packages.

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Speaker 2: Look man, whether it's a.

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Speaker 4: Two d lineman, four linebacker front with nickel behind it,

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Speaker 4: whether it's a four man front and a traditional nickel package.

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Speaker 4: Is being able to take all of the talents of

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Speaker 4: the people that you have on defense and utilize them.

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Speaker 4: For so long, there's been a sense of frustration that

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Speaker 4: some of the Jaguars top picks have not been deployed

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Speaker 4: in the positions that they really did in college that

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Speaker 4: made them valued what they were valued or earned them

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Speaker 4: the high grades and the draft.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you'll see some of those those guys used.

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Speaker 4: A little differently to really maximize the strength of their

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Speaker 4: talents and give them an opportunity to play at a

498
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Speaker 4: high level because you're asking them to do things that

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Speaker 4: they can do really well.

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Speaker 3: It's touching a couple of other of these position coaches

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Speaker 3: and we'll get out of here for the week and

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Speaker 3: there will be a lot of focus on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Sean Sarrett takes over that position group. John Osier's guy.

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Speaker 3: Edgar Bennett is the wide receivers coach Bucky and he's

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Speaker 3: back in Jacksonville, his hometown.

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Speaker 2: That's your guy too, Yeah, that is my guy.

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Speaker 4: So Edgar Bennett and I played together for a long

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Speaker 4: time in Green Bay. I sent a message to cav

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Speaker 4: that EB taught me how to be a pro like.

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Speaker 4: He is a consumman professional in terms of what he does.

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Speaker 4: Comes early, very diligent, He is a great teacher, and

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Speaker 4: I think anyone who knows Ebe or wants to know

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Speaker 4: about Eb's journey.

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Speaker 2: As a coach.

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Speaker 4: This was a really good running back who coached running

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Speaker 4: backs for the first few years of his career. He

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Speaker 4: made the switch over to wide receiver because he he

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Speaker 4: had aspirations of being an opensive coordinator, which he was

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Speaker 4: under Mike McCarthy for a while. He is really good

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Speaker 4: with wide receivers in terms of run after catch and

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Speaker 4: also understanding and teaching and conveying to them the importance

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Speaker 4: of toughness and physicality on the perimeter as it relates

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Speaker 4: to blocking. If you want big runs and UH on

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Speaker 4: your offense, your wide receivers have to block down the field.

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Speaker 4: Eb's going to get those guys to not only block,

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Speaker 4: but he's gonna get them to play a.

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Speaker 2: Little tougher on the perimeter because it's demanded.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Edgar is an absolute I mean when I was

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Speaker 5: starting out covering high school sports, Edgar was already at

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Speaker 5: FSDU and UH an absolute legend in Jacksonville. People who

531
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Speaker 5: don't know played with Leroy Butler uh at FSU and Lee.

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Speaker 5: Uh back when it was Lee, it's it's now Riverside.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Some legendary teams and uh, nothing but a class act.

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Speaker 5: And UH, I know people around Jacksonville will be happy

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Speaker 5: to have him back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A great dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really excited like all those guys, like like I

539
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Speaker 4: talked about Ron Miles, I talked about Uh, Edgar Bennett, Like,

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Speaker 4: what they put together is a really balanced staff. I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to see it all come together. And as

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Speaker 4: we talked about Tony Bricelli being in an elevated role,

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Speaker 4: eventually you get a general manager in there. I just

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Speaker 4: think the new energy in the building would go a

545
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Speaker 4: long ways towards not only turning it around this year,

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Speaker 4: but hopefully having a sustained run of success in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Back here before we get out, we'd be remiss with

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Speaker 5: the GM search going on. What's the I mean, broadbrush,

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Speaker 5: we have time to get into very much too. What's

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Speaker 5: the key? When you already have a coach in place,

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Speaker 5: you already have an e VP. Uh, how do you

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Speaker 5: envision this? Just give me sort of a quick synopsis

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Speaker 5: of what's going on this week.

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Speaker 2: The key number one thing. Number one thing has to

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Speaker 2: be a good teammate.

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Speaker 4: And when I mean being a good teammate, everyone needs

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Speaker 4: to be able to play well in the sandbox together EVP,

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Speaker 4: head coach, general manager. Secondly, they all need to see

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Speaker 4: football the same, uh they all has. There has to

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Speaker 4: be a base philosophy that they believe that you win

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Speaker 4: games at the highest level of doing X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 4: and that the players that you acquire fit that mantra

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Speaker 4: and fit that mold.

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Speaker 2: If you have those things, you can do it.

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Speaker 4: But really being a good teammate, being a great listener,

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Speaker 4: making sure that it's not about your own individual ego.

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Speaker 4: All those things matter, and as the three Tony, Liam

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Speaker 4: and the new GM work together, it is about putting

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars first and your individual interests and agendas behind.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think JP because and I we'll close, but

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Speaker 5: because GM has been a little bit of a a

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Speaker 5: all powerful position here in the past, and the people

573
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Speaker 5: are kind of thrown by the fact that it's getting

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Speaker 5: hired after the head coach. To me, if you look

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Speaker 5: around the league, this is not an unusual scenario at all,

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Speaker 5: so it makes a lot of sense. I just kind

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Speaker 5: of wanted Bucky to sort of speak to that a

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Speaker 5: little bit, so it makes sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Coordinators speaking with the media on Thursday ten am, will

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Speaker 3: have the four of you on Happy Hour Radio. That's

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Speaker 3: a four o'clock start on ten to next l A. M.

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Speaker 3: Logman and I will be there. We'll be back on

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Speaker 3: here next week. Bucky, great to see you and talk

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Speaker 3: with you again.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, it'd be fun. Look good for to seeing

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Speaker 2: you guys in a couple weeks of the comet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucky Brooks shadows here, I'm JP Shaddwick. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: Joe Fortunado Reaver, our entire crew and Thanks to you

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Speaker 3: for listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks