1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hut. Let's Giants. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Get the Giants Buble, give me some job. Part of 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the Giants podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Let's roll. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Totle Podcast, brought 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: York Football Giants. 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 4: Big show coming for you today. 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna hear from the head coach of the Giants, 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: Brian Dabihole, talk with Bob Poppa, Ryan Fallard does a 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: great job covering the Commanders, will help preview the game, 12 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: and I will talk to a special guest at the 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: end of the program for one of our sponsors. But 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna lead off with one of our players, Giant 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: safety Jason Pinnock. And now we're joined by Giant safety 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: Jason Pinnock. 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 5: Jason, what's going on, man, much man? Much good? 18 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: All right? 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: How has this team kind of bounced back in practice 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: this week after what I'm sure is very disappointing and 21 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: frustrating loss against Pittsburgh on Monday night? 22 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? Man, just uh, We're positive. 23 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Man. The guys they they they unbreakable. I'm vindable and 24 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: that's one thing like I can say, wholehearted me and 25 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: like I love about this team and he's guys, the coaches, 26 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: the building alone, the camaraderie, it doesn't it doesn't stop. 27 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: How much of that starts with Brian Dable, the head coach, 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: and how he talks to you guys. You know, I 29 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: walked by your guys team meetings on Wednesday Thursday. Guys 30 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: having fun in there. Obvious you're getting your business done too, right, 31 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: But how much is it the way he sets a 32 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: tone from the top down? And how much is it 33 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: your captains and the veteran group also setting a tone 34 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: in the. 35 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: Walk very player led you know what I'm saying that 36 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: you kind of hit it for me right there, and it's, uh, 37 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: it's he's always emphasizing us, and it's it's us. 38 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 5: It's within here because. 39 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: You know a lot of I mean, I'm not gonna 40 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: speak for the other thirty one, but you know, it's 41 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: it's a profession where people could become arrogant or start 42 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: to point fingers when things ain't going their way, you know. 43 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: And like I said with the previous question, I mean, bro, 44 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: we we don't do that here. 45 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: And I love that. 46 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: You know, I've been to other places and it's it's 47 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 2: not always like that, man, So I love the guys. 48 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: Dave does a good a good job emphasizing that part 49 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: and just staying within the building. 50 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: Now. 51 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure though it wasn't a fun film session on 52 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: Tuesday morning, especially when you look at the run defense. 53 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: So why don't we start there? When you look at 54 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: that run defense? Is this something systemic that needs to 55 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: get better? Is it just a couple of mistakes on 56 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: individual plays? You know, because those first three drives they 57 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: had like three or four chunk runs on these drives. 58 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: And it's the second part, which you said, it's nothing 59 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: like within the system, but the scheme, it's the fundamentals. 60 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: It's the it's tackling in space myself included, is getting 61 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: off blocks. It's using your hands, it's a vertical rush 62 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: through the line, you know what I'm saying, to cut 63 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: off edges. And you know, it's it's small things that 64 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: are so major in professional sports. 65 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: And I guess that's why, at least from I can't 66 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: imagine for you guys, for me watching it, this season's 67 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: been frustrating, right because it seems like small mistakes in 68 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: every individual game. 69 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 4: It always seems to be in a different area, right, yep. 70 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: The impact of those small mistakes on the big picture 71 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: in these games seems to be huge. So as a player, 72 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: how do you kind of bring that all together and 73 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: just try to get some of those small mistakes even 74 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: though they're for every week out of it. So the 75 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: resulting that being better at the end of some of 76 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: these games. 77 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And that's that's the biggest thing, bro. And 78 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: it's uh see for the younger guys coming out. I 79 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: have a really young group right now, and the whole. 80 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Teams young man. Yes's of the youngest team in the 81 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: league on a personal basis. 82 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: Wow. 83 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 5: Okay, I did not know that. Ye wow. 84 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, So with my guys specifically, is I always 85 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: put it in perspective of our twenty two season. It 86 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: was like five six wins within there where it was 87 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: the same way. We just were on a good part 88 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: part of it. It was just the good guys. 89 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: You know. 90 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: And that's this league. It's that one player's two players. 91 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: And you kind of touched on it two again, is that. 92 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: You either make the big player, you make the big mistake. 93 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: That's the difference, right, And if you lose, those are 94 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: always the big mistakes. If you win, the mistakes are 95 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: minor and people don't look into them. That's that's that's 96 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: the world we're in, and that's what you got to 97 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: live with and to touch on exactly what you said, 98 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: because that's that's what it is. 99 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 5: It's the league is, man, you fix the. 100 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: Minor thing from the past week that hurts you, and 101 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: something else minor comes up, you know, because the emphasis 102 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: is there, and it's like it's just all trying to 103 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: tie it to one and that's when you play a 104 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: complimentary game. 105 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: That's that's what happens. 106 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: So when you have a young group like you have, 107 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: then is it just a matter of making sure they 108 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: understand that there has to be a complete focus on 109 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: every single play because one small mistake on one play 110 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: can have untold consequences. 111 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and we do that even within our day. So 112 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: our day we have a lot of early meetings just 113 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: because the group is so young. We're seven am three 114 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: times a week. So it's like we emphasize even within that, 115 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: like we don't care that you just cracked your eyes 116 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: open at six thirty and you know, six twenty and 117 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: rolled out of bed to come here and do this 118 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: walk through. Is you got to take this rep series 119 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: dis rep and then once you need to lead it 120 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: into the meetings and then lead it into practice and 121 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: make it all in one and then that's how it's 122 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: like playing a complete game, being able to lock in 123 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: that long that you know that mental durability. 124 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: So not for sure less you know, we've had run 125 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: defense issues throughout the year. But one thing I think 126 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: you guys have been pretty consistently really good at this 127 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: year has been not allowing the big play over the 128 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: top and passing game. Now, they got a couple last 129 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: week against Pittsburgh. They got you in some one on 130 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: ones without two safeties deep. You were a single high 131 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: and a couple of those whatever. So is that just 132 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: them getting the right plays in the right spots or 133 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: is that some other type of stuff with maybe some 134 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: of the young guys. 135 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: You need to talk about certain things in those places. 136 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: To stay locked inn And it's it's again nothing scheme, 137 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: nothing really personal. It's sometimes good players get paid too. 138 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: That's what we'd like to say. If you look exactly, 139 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: if you look at both of them, it was one high. 140 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: It was just man and man. So there's no bust 141 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: or no miscommunication or nothing in that sense, no bad leverage, 142 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: no bad technique, just kind of good ball, good catch 143 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: and yeah that's I mean, that's really it. So it's 144 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: just it's no like our fate is strong, you know, 145 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: within the system and within the guys. 146 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: So within your group, those are the guys you deal with. 147 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: Tyler is really young, Drew's really young, both rookies. How 148 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: have both guys dealt with? And you know, Tyler was 149 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: in school for a while and everyone I talked to 150 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: in Minnesota said he acted like a pro when he. 151 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: Was Yeah, he had an old soul, right, correct, So. 152 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: How of these guys kind of caught on to what 153 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: you guys are preaching with the details early for meetings 154 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: and kind of doing all that stuff. 155 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: Very good man, very good. 156 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: And as you've probably heard a lot about Nuban, like 157 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: he's uh, he has a lot of respect, you know 158 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: from wherever he's been and wherever he's walked within the 159 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: game of football. He respects the game, his preparation. Uh, 160 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: he got an old soul man, So you know Drew, 161 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: uh in its own different way, but he respects the 162 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: game and he's he's the one that's really turning the 163 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: page as far as preparation learning. How to watch film 164 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: knowing what to look for, you know, studying with a purpose. 165 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: You know, how much easier is it to play these 166 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: rookies and have confidence in them when both of them 167 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: are willing to be physical the way they are as 168 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: defensive backs. 169 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's the biggest thing for you know, 170 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: within players DC, everybody to accept rookies playing within their 171 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: system is. 172 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 5: The uncon coachable stuff. 173 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: The effort, you know what I'm saying, The physicality, uh, 174 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: the willingness to tackle, you know, those things. The communication 175 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: and you know and that that that confidence and communication 176 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: comes within the preparation, you know, so and that's something 177 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: both of them do. 178 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 7: Now. 179 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: Deante Banks has had a couple of rough weeks in 180 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: terms of controversy. You got pulled out of the game 181 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: in the second half last week. He's a young guy too. 182 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: He's never been one to black from confidence when I've 183 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: talked to him. So how how has he handled all 184 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: of this? 185 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: And a humble way, you know, it's no animosity towards 186 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: people that come up and got something to you know, 187 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: help him out with, whether it's a coverage based thing 188 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: or some type of just help within you know, understanding 189 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: the front on displace, so you know, you got to 190 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: play a little bit deeper or a little. 191 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: Bit softer, you know, little things. 192 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: I think I think he's becoming a sponge absorbing a 193 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: lot of information now being able to slow down. And 194 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: you know because those number one corners they got that. 195 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: You know that that sign and toe that swagged to him, 196 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So like but in a 197 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: sense of when it comes to learning time, very humble. 198 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: So he's not one of these guys where it's like, 199 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't need your opinion how to do this. 200 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: I'm good, far from far from. 201 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: That's good because a lot of times these guys they 202 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: come in because you need to have confidence that the 203 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: position right, if the quarter you're. 204 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: Book, I'm telling you, And that's where I came into 205 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: this league as so trusty I know, I know. 206 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: All right, Well that's good to know. 207 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Are you You said you're seeing him grow in terms 208 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: of absorbing. Are you also see him grow in terms 209 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: of being a pro and understanding the preparation part of the. 210 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: Team and taking care of his body, the smaller things 211 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: and like being here since he's gotten here his first 212 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: rookie camp to now you know what I'm saying just 213 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: the preparation, the difference and intention of detail even within 214 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: meeting rooms, anything small things. 215 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: That's great. All right, let's talk about the opponent. 216 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: You had a nice little game in the last time 217 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: you played the Commander. 218 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: Two sacks in that game. Take us back. 219 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: Why were you able to have the success you guys 220 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: didn't frankly, I know what the time, but seemed like 221 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: Daniel's had a really good game. 222 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: Yeah you look back. 223 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: Now, that was one of his quieter games of the 224 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: year based waited elsewhere. So how are you guys able 225 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: to kind of have success against that offense the way 226 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: you did? 227 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: And Daniel specifically, just. 228 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: The communication and the preparation that week, which was very 229 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: similar to this week. We were very confident within that 230 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: just for me personally, Uh just was that week you know, 231 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: want to really use me off the edge and get 232 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: to show what you know, a good part of my 233 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: game and h get after them, you know, knowing that 234 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: we'll end up hopefully one on one with the back 235 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: and like me as a player, like I'm very confident 236 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: if you if you want to slide the protection away 237 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: from me or two decks like I'm gonna win off 238 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: that back so I was able to get after him twice. 239 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: Now watching the Commanders, though their offense looks like has 240 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: expanded a lot in the passing game, especially since that 241 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: first week. That first week go still a lot of 242 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: passes behind the line of scrimmage, get the ball out, 243 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: bubble screens, all that Cliff Kingsbury, you know, outside perimeter stuff. 244 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: He's thrown over the middle. Now he's doing a lot 245 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: more from a passing respective. So where have you seen 246 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: the most growth and change in their offense from what 247 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: they showed you guys a week two to what they've 248 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: done since then. 249 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: The confidence building throughout the year for Jayden Daniels is 250 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: I want to give him the easy throws, hand the 251 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: ball off, stretch the edge, get to the perimeter to 252 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: slow the game down for him. Now we week nine 253 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: or you know, yeah, week nine. 254 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: I believe so crazy. Yeah no, man, That's why I 255 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 5: caught me. 256 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, dangna, But yeah, so were far enough along 257 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: with He's seen a lot of different defenses and how 258 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: like they play cover two or Cover three or fire zone, you. 259 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying. 260 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: So games slowing down for him, so he's able to 261 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: kind of stretch the ball a little bit, so we 262 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: expected a little bit more exposed to play well attempts. 263 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: Of course, now they want to run the ball though, right, 264 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: they want to stretch you out and run it. They 265 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: got a power run game, Daniel's aspect in that too. 266 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: So what makes it particularly challenging with the way they 267 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 3: spread and then have the quarterback as a run threat 268 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: to in the traditional. 269 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: Run game always an issue, man, And I mean we 270 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: we're in the division of the RPO college offense world, 271 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: so we you know, we used to it, but I mean, 272 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: you hit it right there. That's the biggest, Uh, it's 273 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: the biggest plus to RPO offenses. 274 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 5: You have a running quarterback. 275 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: So you really got two running backs and a quarterback 276 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: back there with two bodies, you know, and then just 277 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: to stretch in the field, the flashes of the tight 278 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: ends and the two they can manipulate the two player 279 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: with certain blocks and jets. So, I mean it comes 280 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: with a lot, but once you understand the philosophy, you 281 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: could really slow it down. 282 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: Terry mclaurren, now that he is a top talented quarterback, 283 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: we're seeing that all right, Maybe he's right with these 284 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: other top wide receivers. 285 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: His production's been great. 286 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: What makes him a challenge as a wide receiver to 287 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: someone like you when you watch him on. 288 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Tape competitor since I've been here my three years, like 289 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: and we cut that tape on and we go over 290 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: our personnel. 291 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 5: For the week. He's a competitor. 292 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: He's a dog. That's just his mentality. He's not the biggest, 293 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: he's not the fast, he's not the strongest. You know, 294 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: that's and that's no disrespect to him, but that's you know, 295 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: that's clear. But he is a competitor. He's a dog 296 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: and he feels like he gonna win. So that's the 297 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: probably the biggest thing for him. 298 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, some guys are wide receivers. 299 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: That dude's a football player that happens to be playing 300 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: wide receiver. 301 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good way to describe. 302 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I love watching him play. Just really fun. 303 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: And then Brian Robinson, big physical back someone and Najia Harris, 304 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: I think right in terms of kind of their styles 305 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: and how they run. So how do you have to 306 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: slow him down? Just Harris did have some kind of 307 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: trunk plays against you guys. 308 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, just good feet, good in the good good in 309 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: the open, open space. Good pad level, staying low, not 310 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: coming in the box too high because they bit backs 311 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: and they keep their feet moving. 312 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: So final question, one guy, you're gonna have to deal 313 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: with the zach Ertz. He's been paying the button this 314 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: division for a long time. First of the Eagles, now 315 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: with the Commanders. The guy gets older, he tears up, 316 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: his knee, comes back, still gets open. 317 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: Still how does he do it? 318 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: He's very crafty. Even the last time we played him 319 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: this year he stole that one from me, and it's 320 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: just just crafty Vetinus, you know, like knowing fifty to 321 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: fifty to the offense, so you know, and then within 322 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: how he runs his route like he knows again he's 323 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: not gonna run past you or do things like that. 324 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: But he's a good finess player, very smart. 325 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: All right. 326 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: How important is it for you guys to finally put 327 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: a good showing in front of your home fans in 328 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: the building. I'm sure it's killing you, guys that you 329 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: haven't put a good product on the field at home 330 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: so far. 331 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Exactly, man, And to that bro, it's like, we're just 332 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: as prideful, you know. And I got friends who don't 333 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: play obviously in the NFL, and I talked to them 334 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: and they have certain similar comments and you know, kind 335 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: of like what we're doing or what you know what 336 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's like, trust me, I get both sides. 337 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: But it's like, I promise we're not coming to work 338 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: twelve hours a day just you know, doing nothing and 339 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: hoping we lose, and you know. 340 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: What I'm saying. 341 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: So it's just it will make us probably more happy 342 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: than them to put on a good show at home. 343 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: And that's the goal. It's always the goal. 344 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: Is it just coincidence that you guys have happened to 345 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: player best on the road this year? 346 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: Is there something in. 347 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: Mindset because it's a really night day. It's crazy. 348 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: It's to us. 349 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: It's to us, and not again with early on in 350 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: our interview with the Daves and just the mentality of 351 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: the team, it's us. 352 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 5: It's us. 353 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 2: And when we when we travel, for some reason, we 354 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: feel like we're on our own. So it's like we 355 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like we get. 356 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: Get into battle mode or something. I don't know. I 357 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 5: don't know what it is, but we want to put 358 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: on a good show at home. 359 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: Man, well, getting battle mode on Sunday morning, believe you're 360 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: in DC or whatever you gotta do, we can't wait 361 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: to see it play. Thanks man, appreciate you, appreciate it. 362 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 8: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with Citizens, 363 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 8: so go to that retreat. New you moves to the country. 364 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 8: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 365 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 8: you ready for all that life brings? 366 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: The Giants Total podcast is brought to you by Citizens, 367 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: the official bank of the Giants. From game day celebrations 368 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: to your everyday financial needs, Big Blue fans can get 369 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: the most out of every moment with Citizens. Learn more 370 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: at citizens bank dot com slash Giants. That was Jason Pennock. 371 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: Great stuff out of him talking about the Giants defense 372 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: and some of the challenges to Commander's offense. We'll give 373 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: the Giants on Sunday afternoon. Now let's turn the attention 374 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: to our scouting report of the Commanders. And for that 375 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: preview of the Commanders, we were joined by Ryan Fowler. 376 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: He works for Bleacher Report, the Draft Network, former employee 377 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: of the Commanders, worked on the media side much like 378 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: I do here, and he also hosts the Commanding the 379 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: Huddle podcast covering every thing Commander's Ryan, You've had a 380 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: heck of a season here, man. I know we spoke 381 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: before the year. You were more optimistic then I probably was. 382 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: We're going to the commanders this year, but I imagine even 383 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: they've gone past your expectations before the year. 384 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, first things first, John, I was pretty such having 385 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 7: me on. Man, it's a been a heck of a 386 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 7: year so far from the commanders. You know, we are 387 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 7: eight weeks through. I can't believe it's been you know 388 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 7: that that far already through the year. But long way 389 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 7: to go with this thing. But definitely, you know, Adam 390 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 7: Peters and company are laying that foundation down there in 391 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 7: Washington for people should be excited down there in DC 392 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 7: for for what's to come. 393 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think we thought, you know, you could 394 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: lay the foundation this year, you'd see signs of why 395 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: things would get better in the future. But the begetting 396 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: this many victories this early, I got to imagine, you know, 397 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: they in some ways even believe they're a little bit 398 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: head of schedule. 399 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 400 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean you think you look at Jade and 401 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 7: Daniels right entering the year, and you really didn't know 402 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 7: what you were going to get. The only guys on 403 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 7: the roster you knew what you were going to get 404 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 7: with probably Bobby Wagner and Brian Robinson on either side 405 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 7: of the football. There's so many new face in so 406 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 7: many new places. But obviously what Jaden has done to 407 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 7: where you look at the young man right now. Of 408 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: course he's battling that rib injury and he's battling through it. 409 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 7: Of course we saw in that Chicago game and through 410 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 7: eight weeks he's already in the MVP conversation. So of 411 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 7: course they have exceeded expectations. I did not expect them 412 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 7: to be six and two through eight weeks and not 413 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 7: just competitive right now for a playoff spot, potential winning 414 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 7: this darn NFC East here in the next couple of 415 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 7: months or so. 416 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: So the last time we saw Jade and Daniels was 417 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: week two, and at that point, Ryan it was still 418 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: a lot of quick screens, stuff behind the line of scrimmage, 419 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: not a lot of stuff in the middle of the 420 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: field in the intermediate range. You know, when he scrambled, 421 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: he would run. He wasn't really throwing on the move much. 422 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: But the progress I've seen from him, I think has 423 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: been pretty astounding, even from you know, when he was 424 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: at his best at at LSU go through for the 425 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: fans a little bit. What areas you think Daniels has 426 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: progressed in the most over the past few weeks and 427 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: where he is right now in terms of being an 428 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. 429 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, and as much as it is with Cliff Kingsbury, 430 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 7: you know his pillows of his off as to where 431 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 7: everything is going to stem for the Commanders through the 432 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 7: run game. Really their four headed run game with Daniels, Eckler, 433 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 7: Robinson and Jerryman. McNichols also gets involved a little bit 434 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 7: as he did earlier in the year. But what Jayden's 435 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 7: done so well is get himself a position with his body. 436 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 7: It's his lower half before he ever rips it with 437 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 7: his upper half, whether it's through the middle of the field. 438 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 7: And that was something John I'm sure you heard in 439 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 7: the pre draft process. There was a narrative surrounding Jaden 440 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 7: where he didn't want to throw over the middle of 441 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 7: the field. Well, it's not that he didn't want to, 442 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 7: but when you have guys like my league neighbors and 443 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 7: Brian Thomas on the outside, why would you ever want 444 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 7: to throw to the middle of the field and you 445 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 7: have those guys running vertical on the outside. But that's 446 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 7: where he's been best, I think at the last month 447 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 7: of the season, is putting that back foot in the ground, 448 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 7: trusting what he's seeing. Zach Ertz over the mill field, 449 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 7: guys like ALM's a keyist, even Luke McCaffrey getting involved 450 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 7: a little bit. Those guys behind Terry McLaurin aren't gonna 451 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 7: scare anybody. And that's the biggest thing with this offense 452 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 7: right now. Again another part of that laying the foundations 453 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 7: what they're trying to be on offense with Jade Daniels 454 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 7: leading this thing, and that's where he's been best again 455 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 7: over the middle of the field, trusting his eyes, making 456 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 7: easier for guys up front where he doesn't have to 457 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 7: hold the ball for five six seconds and you're taking 458 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 7: sacks like we've seen from quarterbacks across the league. That's 459 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 7: where he's been best and trusting his eyes, and really 460 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 7: John is as much attention as he gets from beating 461 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 7: that electric type of athlete with his lower half and 462 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 7: the building to make plays. He's beating teams from the 463 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 7: shoulders up with his head and looking on scanning defenses 464 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 7: left to right, right's left, wherever the progression may take 465 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 7: him and just getting the ball out of his hands, 466 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 7: letting his playmakers do the job in space. 467 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was preparing for the draft last year, 468 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 3: I ocurb Warner on and he told me something that 469 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: I probably didn't take the heart as much as I 470 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: should have, And now that I look back, I probably 471 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: I've learned my lesson now when it comes to scouting, 472 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: just because you don't see a player do something in 473 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: college doesn't mean he can't do it because you don't 474 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: know if he was being asked. 475 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: To do it. 476 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: And that's I think referencing to Daniel's throwing over the 477 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: middle of the field and stuff like that, where you 478 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: know what, to your point, maybe they just didn't need. 479 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 4: Him to do that LSU because everything was working outside. 480 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: So I think as we, you know, move war forward 481 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: now looking at players, that's something to keep in mind 482 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: that you don't know what these guys are being asked 483 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: to do it. Just because you don't see them do 484 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean they're unable to do it. Kingsbury, you 485 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: mentioned him. 486 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: I had some. 487 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 3: Questions about him and how his tenure in Arizona ended 488 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: in terms of how he put that offense together. But look, 489 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: he wants to spurage you out to run it. That 490 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: was a point you made earlier. But I really think 491 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: he's done a good job of, you know, finding easy, 492 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: open opportunities for Daniels so there's not necessarily so much 493 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: on his plate on every play where he has to 494 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: be a superhero every down. I think he's really done 495 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: a good job putting Daniels in a position to succeed 496 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: this year. 497 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. Again, and it does really start with the run game. 498 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 7: You know, if Washington's ground game is not churning, you know, 499 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 7: really big thing for Look at this week against the 500 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 7: Giants and that defensive front where they got talent up 501 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 7: and down that group where at the first down run game, 502 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 7: you know, if they're not getting into themselves a second 503 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 7: and five, second and six, is they're forcing Jaden Jails 504 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 7: to sit back there thirty thirty five plus times a game. Obviously, 505 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 7: it's worked so far, and worked against some of the 506 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 7: better defense at that they played this year, like at Baltimore, 507 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 7: look at Cleveland going out to Arizona and beating them 508 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 7: some decent ball clubs. But the run game has been 509 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 7: the biggest thing. And that's where Cliff Kingsbury has hung 510 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 7: his hat, and I mentioned the four names earlier that 511 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 7: really get going in this ground game. They also involved 512 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 7: Terry McLaurin on sweeps, they involve him on motions, they 513 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 7: involve him as a decoy and over the middle of 514 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 7: the field to open up screens of guys on the outside. 515 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 7: They've involved Ben Sin a little bit more so in 516 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 7: the passing game, even just running routes on the perimeter, 517 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: a little bit rookie tight end out of Kansas State. 518 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 7: So Cliff Kingsbury's continuing to mix it up. And the 519 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 7: biggest thing too is the ability to run different plays 520 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 7: out of the same formation. And they also live in 521 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 7: twelve personnel, one running back, two tight ends. They'll have 522 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 7: two running backs in the same field that pony personnel 523 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 7: that you see a lot with the Kansas City a 524 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 7: Chiefs over the years, with Jack McKinnon or the Isaiah 525 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 7: Pachecos of the world in years past. So that's the 526 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 7: type of stuff that Cliff Kingsbury is doing for this 527 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: offense to where yes, Jayden is a special player what 528 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 7: we've seen so far, it is still early. He's still 529 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 7: going to prove. But you look at the offense of 530 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 7: what Kingsbury's asking everybody to do at a multitude of levels, 531 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 7: different positions. It's just making it easier in the formations 532 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 7: that they're running to just get into advantageous situations to 533 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 7: take those shot plays which they like to do on 534 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 7: those second and four second and fives, and then if 535 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 7: they have to also John stay on the field on 536 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 7: fourth down because they trust in Jade Daniels to make 537 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 7: the right decision. 538 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: Where Robinson and Daniels in terms of their injuries, I 539 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: know Daniels is gonna play. How compromised was he last week? 540 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: Is he compromised at all? And then where's Robinson in 541 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: terms of the hamstring? 542 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I expect Jane Dailds to be a full hundred 543 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 7: percent go this week. Now. He is someone that not 544 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 7: the ribs are not one hundred percent, and I think 545 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 7: we can say that about everybody in football. Everybody's got 546 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 7: something now moving into week nine. Is whether it's a bruise, 547 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 7: something is going on with everybody. It's the battle the 548 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 7: ability to fight through it. Brian Robinson I expect to 549 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 7: one hundred percent out there as well. You know he 550 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 7: was banged up earlier in the year. So both those 551 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 7: guys I fully expect to be out there on Sunday afternoon, 552 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 7: but with Jayden's rib injury, you know, it may just 553 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 7: take one hit, you know. I'm sure John, you remember 554 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 7: that Andrew Phillips hit in Week two that Jaydan and 555 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 7: Daniels hit that was basically the biggest hit that he's 556 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 7: taken so far this year and didn't get hurt on 557 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: really a hard contact injury against Carolina and he just 558 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 7: kind of got rolled up on that first offensive series 559 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago for the Commander. So he's 560 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 7: gonna have to take care of his body. He's gonna 561 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 7: take those shots as he did LSU. But I do 562 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 7: right now expect Jadan Daniels to be one hundred percent go. 563 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 7: But those ribs are definitely feeling it a little bit, 564 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 7: and we saw that at the back end of the 565 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 7: Chicago game last week. 566 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: When we did our season preview roundtable, I asked you 567 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: specifically about the Canander's offensive line, and I thought that 568 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: was gonna be a real Achilles heel for them this year. 569 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: You know, Jaya Daniels didn't deal with a lot of 570 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: pressure at LSU. They had a really good line, and 571 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: you expressed a lot of confidence in the line. 572 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you. I got off the 573 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: call and I'm like, I. 574 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: Just don't see it. But man, Ron, I gotta get 575 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: tip my cap. 576 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 7: You were right. 577 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: This offensive line has done a really, really nice job. 578 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: Talk about the unit a little bit. 579 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: I know this some injuries as us you can you 580 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: can touch on those as well over at left tackle. 581 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: But from my perspective, this offensive line, you know, with 582 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: the commander says, really overperformed expectations. 583 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's a big credit as well to Adam 584 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 7: Peters and Cliff Kingsbury sitting down and getting the types 585 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 7: of bodies that he wants an interior, and what I 586 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 7: mean by that is he wants guys to have those 587 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 7: wider body types in their upper half to live in 588 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 7: that vertical plane. They got a little bit of nasty 589 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 7: to him in the middle. You look at Nick Alaghretti, 590 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 7: Tyler Biattish coming over from Dallas at the pivot spot. 591 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 7: And then you got Sam Cosmy, who they re up 592 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 7: this year. He's gonna be a long term piece for 593 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 7: them up front. Formerly drafted out of Texas to be 594 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 7: right tackle, now playing right guard has been really really 595 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 7: good for them. So far, that's the interior, and that's 596 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 7: the really the guts, the lungs of your offensive line 597 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 7: that's been really really good so far for them this year, 598 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: leading that ground game, but out front at left tackle. 599 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 7: You know, you mentioned the injuries. We expect to see 600 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 7: Brandon Coleman, you know, this week one hundred percent of 601 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 7: the snaps potentially, and he's been rotating with Cornelis lucas 602 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 7: a veteran in this league, to where they've been splitting 603 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 7: series every series, every series. I'm bouncing and I'm bouncing out. 604 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 7: So it's gonna be a big test for him this 605 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: week of going up against a guy like Brian Burns. 606 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 7: You know that's gonna be huge for him. And you 607 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 7: look at Jane Daniels to where he's got his blind 608 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 7: side on the left side. And I can't sit here 609 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 7: right now with confidence, John and say that Brandon Coleman's 610 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 7: going to completely stem in a guy like Brian Burns, 611 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 7: who has been excellent so far in twenty twenty four. 612 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 7: That's gonna be a question for me this week. But yes, 613 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 7: the group as a whole has been really good. Andrew Wiley, 614 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 7: entering the year, I had a ton of questions about 615 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 7: but the film and over last year with Eric b 616 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 7: Enemy from Kansas City, he's played well. So this group 617 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 7: has been really good upfront, specifically with that interior three, 618 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 7: leading that ground game and making things easier for guys 619 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 7: like Brian Robinson and Austin Eckler in the ground game. 620 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 621 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 3: And I'll till my cap to your offensive line coach 622 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: Bobby Johnson, who is here. Good dude, didn't work out 623 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: of here, but he's done a really nice job down 624 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: there with the commander. All right, real quick, Ryan, let's 625 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: go over to the defensive side of the ball. I 626 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: think they've played much better the last couple of weeks. 627 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: Where have you seen the biggest improvement from this defense 628 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 3: from where they played the Giants or in the year 629 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: and the Giants only kick fuels, but they did drive 630 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: the ball up and then the field pretty consistently. Where 631 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: has this group shown the most improvement in recent weeks 632 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: where they've played a lot better. 633 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 7: Yeah. Defensive coordinator Joe Witt, you know, follows dan Quino 634 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 7: from Dallas this year, and he always talked about the 635 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 7: off season, you know, play with your hair on fire. 636 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 7: We're going to be aggressive. We're going to get after 637 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 7: people well entering the week. Last week against the Bears, 638 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 7: it was only the Commanders and the Panthers in football 639 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 7: at a less pressure rate when blitzing when they did it, 640 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 7: so they weren't getting after people a ton when they 641 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 7: were sending extra bodies. So and trusting in that front four, 642 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 7: that front five. They've lost John Allen, they've lost Cleveland 643 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 7: Farrell at times. Drrence Armstrong's missed time. So the edge 644 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 7: group has gotten better this year so far, in the 645 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 7: last two weeks. But I think the biggest thing John, 646 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 7: it's not individual performances. I think it's just the guys 647 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 7: up front all the way to the back that are 648 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 7: buying in to what Joe Witt wants to do on defense. 649 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 7: And it's not extremely complicated. It's a lot of cover 650 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 7: three and it's a lot of trusting and getting guys 651 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 7: at home from your front four and trusting in Bobby 652 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 7: Wagner and Frankie Luvu, who they will probably miss this 653 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 7: week in the middle of that defense. So I think 654 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 7: it's just being able to buy in what Joe Witt 655 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 7: wants to do defensively get after people. It's also been 656 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 7: nice the last month of the season to where you're 657 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: up twenty at the scoreboard and you can flat out 658 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 7: pin your ears back and get after people and play physical. 659 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 7: But how does it happen when the games are close? Right? 660 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 7: You saw what the Ravens game. You saw it last 661 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 7: week against the Bears. Can the defense get a stop 662 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 7: when it matters? And I think in those certain moments, John, 663 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 7: you see the lack of talent that this team does 664 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 7: have on defense, specifically at the edge spot and that 665 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 7: perimeter corner where they really are in that lower tier 666 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 7: in the NFL as far as from a talent perspective. 667 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Luvu really good Blitzer him and Bobby Wagner. 668 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: Those are two guys that will hurt it. If Louv 669 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: we can't go. I think that's a real hit And 670 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: I want to tip my cap to Joe Winn and 671 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn too. And look, we've seen dan Quinn kind 672 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: of shift a little bit in Dallas. He played a 673 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: lot more man there. But you mentioned the Cover three stuff. 674 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 3: He's always going to run a lot of that, all 675 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: teams do. But I really do think he's leaned into 676 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: a lot more Cover two stuff this year. Ryan. 677 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: You did a little bit with Dallas last year. 678 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: I think you look at some of the I think 679 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: their second highest cover two rate in the league when 680 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: I was looking earlier this week, and I think with 681 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: the defensive backs you guys have at corner, I think 682 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: he's done a good job taking some pressure or off 683 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: of those guys and keeping them out of some of 684 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: those one on one opportunities where they can get exploited 685 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: by using some of that cover two. 686 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, and they're really interesting in Mike Sandra Still. You know, 687 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 7: rookie out of Michigan, they drafted to be their nickel corner, 688 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 7: and he's taken over a role in the outside. He's 689 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 7: played both spots. He's played outside, he's played inside. He's 690 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 7: competing in the run game, making tackles in the fringe areas. 691 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 7: You know, he had his first pick, the first pick 692 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 7: the Commanders had all year, just a few weeks ago 693 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 7: against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. So he's starting to 694 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 7: make plays in the football as a wide receiver convert. 695 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 7: So you look on the outside, and also you look 696 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 7: at the safety rotation this team has. It's a long 697 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 7: list of safeties from Percy Butler to guys like Jeremy 698 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 7: Chinn playing in the box. Jeremy Reeves is a former 699 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 7: All Pro special teamer that may get some rotational reps 700 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 7: as well. They got a lot of guys back there, 701 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 7: including Derek Forest, which has been in and out of 702 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 7: the lineup. So Cover two, you know, you get your 703 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 7: two high safeties living deep, and you got your guys 704 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 7: in the outside playing. 705 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: Man. 706 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 7: It's really ben Sandra Still and Noah Agbnoghany that came 707 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 7: over this year and really approve it type of season 708 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 7: to where they've played. They played much better than what 709 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 7: we've seen from Benjamin Saint Jus that long six three 710 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: corner with the thirty threes on the arms. You always 711 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 7: talk about those atypical Cover three corners that Dan Quinn 712 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 7: loved even back to his days out there in Seattle. 713 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 7: But they got some players and they're making some plays 714 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 7: on the outside as you mentioned. But now it's just 715 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 7: continuing two weeks like this where you got Molik neighbors 716 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 7: and got guys working over the shallow areas to try 717 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 7: to be as consistent as you can if you are 718 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 7: in those manned situations for this defense to get home, 719 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 7: because you don't want these guys covering of course for 720 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 7: four or five seconds. 721 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: All right, final question, anything about this team that we 722 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: didn't talk about that you think is not talked about 723 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: enough or is overrated. Maybe anything that you think Giant 724 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 3: Fann should know about this commander's team heading into the 725 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: game on Sunday afternoon. 726 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 7: I think it's probably the interior rotation along this defensive line, 727 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 7: Johnny know, the last long time since really twenty seventeen, 728 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 7: twenty eighteen, when this team added Jeron Payne John Allen 729 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 7: back to back drafts out of Alabama. There is no 730 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 7: more John Allen right now in twenty twenty four, and 731 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 7: I'm not sure he's gonna be really a piece there 732 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 7: for the future. Considering the capital with Johnny Newton and 733 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 7: considering how that young man has played so far as 734 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 7: a rookie of Illinois, and I think it's beyond dern 735 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 7: Johnny Newton, and Phil Mafficks has also played well as 736 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 7: a former second rounder al of Alabama. You can catch 737 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 7: a trend there and some guys rotation like Sheldon Day 738 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 7: have come in and stepped up. And there's guys on 739 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 7: all this side of the ball. John that really is 740 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 7: a big thing that the guys are stepping up. I 741 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 7: think that's the biggest thing when guys are going down 742 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 7: making plays. But really, this interior defensive line that traded 743 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 7: John Ridgeway before the year to New Orleans, who was 744 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 7: expected to be a key rotational piece, and also from 745 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 7: Adam Peters perspective, I've had to mention this John. We 746 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 7: talked about it earlier. This is a team that's laying 747 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 7: the foundation, but the ability for Adam Peters to also 748 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 7: trim the fat of this roster that brought over Michael 749 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 7: Davis to play perimeter corner from the Chargers. He's a 750 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 7: special teams contributor. Now Jamie Davis was expected to make 751 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 7: the Nutrition down to five tech EDGs this year. That 752 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 7: didn't work. He's now cut as a former first rounder. 753 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 7: So a lot of things going on to Washington. But again, 754 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 7: interior defensive line is definitely a positional group. I look at, say, 755 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 7: a little bit more attention for this group. 756 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, and they might. 757 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: And I think the Commanders right now are set to 758 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: have the most cap space in the league next year, 759 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: so a lot of room to still improve for sure. Ryan, 760 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: good stuff, my friend. Enjoy the game this weekend, and 761 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: we appreciate your insight and knowledge. 762 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 7: Absolutely, thanks us always. 763 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 8: Sean, you love turf, You're good at it, So you 764 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 8: start a turf fiz business grows, your savings grow, become 765 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 8: the most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for 766 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 8: all that life brings? 767 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: Johns Total Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the 768 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: official bank of the New York Giants. Citizens will donate 769 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty dollars of the Giants Foundation for 770 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: each scoring drive during the twenty twenty four season. Learn 771 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: more at citizens bank dot com slash Giants. Excellent job 772 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: there from Ryan, really good information on the Commanders. Bob 773 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: Papa had a chance to catch up with head coach 774 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: of the Giants, Brian Dable. 775 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 9: As always, we're joining a BYuT the head coach of 776 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 9: the New York Giants, Brian Dable and the staff newon 777 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 9: the Giants take on the Washington Commanders. Coach, this is 778 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 9: a team that you played, you know, earlier in the season. 779 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 9: As you look back at them as you get ready 780 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 9: to play this game, have there been many great changes 781 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 9: from them? Or they just continue need to get better 782 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 9: as we move along here. 783 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think they've played good football, put themselves in 784 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 10: positions to win. I think they're playing good, complimentary football, 785 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 10: taking the ball away, taking care of it. You know, 786 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 10: a lot of their players are improving as the season 787 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 10: goes on, and you know, Jaye Damis is a special 788 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 10: player that. Yeah, I think got offense, has a lot 789 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 10: of people believing they run the ball well, and they're 790 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 10: playing you know, aggressive defense. They played really good defense 791 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 10: last week against Chicago. You know, they got good players 792 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 10: in good scheme. 793 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 9: Coach, When you talk about what one of the things 794 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 9: that they're able to do, they're a team that moves 795 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 9: the football. Obviously, they are very good running the football, 796 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 9: and the quarterback is part of that. Does this game 797 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 9: come down to a little bit what it did last time? 798 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 9: As far as red zone is concerned, They get to 799 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 9: the red zone a lot, but they haven't been as 800 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 9: effective getting the ball in the end zone. Is it 801 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 9: kind of that whoever can get touchdowns in there as 802 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 9: opposed to field goals has the best chance to win 803 00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 9: the game. 804 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, that'll be an important element to it. And you 805 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 10: know the other thing will be to be better on 806 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 10: third down to prevent them from getting into some of 807 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 10: those red zone opportunities. And they have a good explosive players. 808 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 10: You know, McLaurin has done it for a long time 809 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 10: and he's made a lot of plays down the field. 810 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 10: I think Jane's done a great job of giving him 811 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 10: opportunities to score the football or make explosive plays which 812 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 10: you know, in turn gets you down in the red 813 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 10: zone to get you minimum of three points. So you know, 814 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 10: third down will be important, Capitalizing in the red zone 815 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 10: when we get into the red zone will be important. 816 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 10: And then doing a good job of taking care of 817 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 10: the ball and getting the ball and creating some short fields, 818 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 10: so you know, it'll be a complimentary game. All three 819 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 10: phases are going to you know, really have to do 820 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 10: a good job of working off each other, and we're 821 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 10: gonna have to do a good job of making sure 822 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 10: we take care of the details. 823 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 5: Coach. 824 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 9: Obviously, the game on Monday night was a frustrating game, 825 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 9: but there's a lot of things when you look at 826 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 9: the game that have to have you and your players 827 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 9: excited about things that you were able to get done 828 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 9: in that football game. Is there any kind of carryover 829 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 9: from a Monday night game this Sunday. 830 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's. Uh, you know, every week's a 831 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 10: new week, so you have a new opponent new schemes, 832 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 10: and the most important thing is is playing well and 833 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 10: playing well in critical situations, you know, playing well on 834 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 10: third down in the red zone, playing well and making 835 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 10: good decisions, you know in two minute drives. Those are 836 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 10: those are important things. Tackling well in the open field. 837 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 10: I thought the line of scrimmage it was it was 838 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 10: good to see to be able to move the ball, 839 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 10: handing the ball to Tracy and getting positive yards. I 840 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 10: think that helps everything else. It allows you to compliment 841 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 10: things and and staying on track. And but those critical situations, 842 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 10: you know, it usually comes down to those in those 843 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 10: games and the turnover battle we lost. That that's you know, 844 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 10: that's a huge thing in terms of determining outcomes of games. 845 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 10: And we're gonna have to do a better job with that. 846 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 9: Coach, I want to ask you about Tyron and Tracy 847 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 9: because he had a second one hundred yard rushing game 848 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 9: this past Monday night. And it wasn't always you know, 849 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 9: peaches and cream. I mean, there was a bunch of 850 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 9: times where you know, he fought through some contact. There 851 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 9: was one play where I think he carried a whole 852 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 9: bunch of Pittsburgh stealers for about seven or eight yards. 853 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 9: Can you just talk a little bit about his maturation 854 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 9: as he's kind of getting more into the NFL and 855 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 9: his rookie season and what the growth is that you've 856 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 9: seen in his game. 857 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, again, he was a receiver, played running back. Really, 858 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 10: you know, Joel Thomas are running back. Coach has done 859 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 10: a fantastic job with him, developing him not just his 860 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 10: you know, skill set and some of the techniques that 861 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 10: he uses, but his mental He's a pro off the field. 862 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 10: He does the right things. You know, he's a good 863 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 10: young player to work with, and that's what you want 864 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 10: out of of all your players, particularly young players, is 865 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 10: when they have opportunities that they're ready to go when 866 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 10: their number is called, and you never know when that's 867 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 10: going to be, and when when their number is called 868 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 10: and they execute and they perform, then they're going to 869 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 10: get more opportunities. And he's earned them. You know, he's 870 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 10: a good young player to work with and we're going 871 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 10: to continue to you know, to grow his skill set. 872 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: Coach. 873 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 9: One of the other things about I noticed about his 874 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 9: game is the fact that you have him in there 875 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 9: on third downs a bunch and there's a lot more 876 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 9: to just being there in on third downs and being 877 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 9: able to catch a ball or something, you know, the protections. 878 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 9: He seems to have picked that stuff up pretty good. 879 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, another testament to Joel and to trace there. They 880 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 10: they've done a good job of of each week growing 881 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 10: and learning the things that that he needs to do. 882 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 10: In the mental part of it. You know, it's it's 883 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 10: a tough game there on third down, I'd say mentally 884 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 10: as much as it is physically. And for him to 885 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 10: be able to, you know, understand what his responsibilities are, 886 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 10: you get a variety of looks. Is his communication has 887 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 10: been good, and again that's what you want out of 888 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 10: your young players. You know, guys that maybe don't play 889 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 10: right away, to make sure that they're ready to go. 890 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 10: And when they are ready to go and they perform, 891 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 10: then they play more. 892 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 9: Coach going to the other side of the ball, you know, 893 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 9: what is the key to what they do defensively, because 894 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 9: when you look at the commanders as you try to 895 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 9: attack them, there's not a ton of household names for 896 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 9: you know, the average NFL fan out there. Bobby Wagner 897 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 9: obviously is going to be in the Hall of Fame someday, 898 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 9: but they only they haven't given up a touchdown the 899 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 9: last two games. What is making their defense so effective? Yeah, 900 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 9: they play good team defense. But again, they play good 901 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 9: team football, and I think each unit feeds off of 902 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 9: one another. So when you score points, that gives defense energy, 903 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 9: That gives defense an opportunity to do some more things 904 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 9: when they're you know, when the other team is behind 905 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 9: in the game, they tackle well. 906 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 10: They give you a variety of looks. They play good 907 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 10: team football, good sound football, They play hard, they take 908 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 10: the ball away and you know, it's a good it's 909 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 10: a good football team. That's why their record is what 910 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 10: they are. It's a good, complimentary team. 911 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 9: Final question, coach, and we're with coach Brian Dables. We 912 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 9: get set for this afternoons game between the Washington Commanders 913 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 9: and the Giants, you know, trying to get that box check, 914 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 9: get that win in front of the home fans. I 915 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 9: know you're frustrated. I know everybody's been frustrated about it. 916 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 9: But you know it's funny when you walk on the 917 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 9: field before every game, you have so much energy and 918 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 9: you got that hop in your step, and your players 919 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 9: tend to feed off that is getting off to this 920 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 9: quick start, which I know sounds cliche ish, but really 921 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 9: important against the division rival like this. 922 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 10: Yeah, no question about it. You know, fast starts are 923 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 10: are you know, big, big determining factors as well in 924 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 10: outcomes of games. You know, how you play in the 925 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 10: first half, can you get up now? Look, we need 926 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 10: to do a better job of that. But you know 927 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 10: we're gonna have to play a sixty minute game. I 928 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 10: guess you know a team that's you know, got a 929 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 10: six and two record, that's there's won a lot of 930 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 10: football games, that's very confident and they're confident in one 931 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 10: another of how they play complimentary. So it'll be important 932 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 10: to go ahead and to get off to a fast start, 933 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 10: to play the right way, to be detailed and the 934 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 10: things we need to be detailed and to execute at 935 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 10: a high level. And that's what it's going to take. 936 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 9: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes as always. 937 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: Thanks Bob, and now we're joined by Gary Clark, Senior 938 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: Vice president and chief Marketing and Communications officer. 939 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 4: Request Gary, let's start this. 940 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: Earlier this year, Quest was this presenting sponsor for the 941 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: Giants Foundation five K. Very popular event. A lot of 942 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: people showed up, had a great time. The weekend, the 943 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: Giants were celebrating their one hundred season. Tell us a 944 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: little about that event and why it's so important to 945 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: Quest a sponsor for. 946 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 6: Us, absolutely and thanks having me on John. Just for 947 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 6: those who aren't familiar with Quest, we're a clinical lab company. 948 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 6: We're headquartered here in Soclucus, New Jersey, and we have 949 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 6: a big flagship facility in Clifton, New Jersey, right up 950 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 6: Route three from the Giants Quest Dynastics Training Center, and 951 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 6: we do about one hundred and thirty thousand specimens through 952 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 6: that facility each year. At QUEST, our purpose is working 953 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 6: together to create a healthier world, one life at a time, 954 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 6: So physical and mental well being is a really big 955 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 6: deal for us, both around our employees but also the 956 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 6: communities in which we operate. So events like the Giants 957 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 6: Foundation five k are really perfect fit with what we're 958 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 6: trying to achieve as a company. It was a great event, 959 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 6: as he said, we had about three thousand people come 960 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 6: through soggy weather, but people made the most of it. 961 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 6: We had about our three hundred Quest employees participate. Actually, 962 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 6: one of our employees came second in the womb's category, 963 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 6: so she was doing really well there. But It's both 964 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 6: a great event for our employees but also for supporting 965 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 6: the goal that we have of working communities to create 966 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 6: a healthier weal for patients. The event, we had the 967 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 6: opportunity to talk about a new campaign that we're running 968 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 6: called for All Your Reasons. They really centers around trying 969 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 6: to get people to start new habits or make healthy 970 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 6: choices for themselves, for their families, for their friends, and 971 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 6: we want people to know that quest here to help 972 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 6: with every step of those health journeys. And then outside 973 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 6: of the five K, you know, we've done some really 974 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 6: great work with the Giants recently on some other fan engagements. 975 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 6: One to look out for would be Trained Like a Giant, 976 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 6: which is a social content series which gives fans a 977 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 6: chance to learn more about the routines at their favorite 978 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 6: players go through to prepare for game days. 979 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can speak from the production department. We love 980 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 4: getting those ready. 981 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: There are a lot of fun to do with the 982 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 3: players to kind of learn about how they train up. 983 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 3: And also three years ago the Giants kicked off their 984 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: journey to their one hundred season, they introduced the Legacy thematic, 985 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: honoring our teams from the eighties and nineties. What does 986 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 3: it meant to What is it meant to Quest that 987 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 3: have been a part of that program from the beginning, 988 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: as obviously as it's culminated this year in the one 989 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 3: hundred season. 990 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, we love the Legacy series. You know, we're 991 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 6: big on history and results of Quest. We've been around 992 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 6: since the late sixties. We understand the importance of looking back, 993 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 6: seeing how far you've come, celebrating success and honoring those 994 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 6: who have been part of that success along the way. 995 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 6: We've been excited to be part of that Legacy program 996 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 6: from the beginning, and that idea of legacy and tracking 997 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 6: your historic results and records is riding the line how 998 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 6: we think about trying to help people with their personal 999 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 6: health histories. You know, we've worked with the giants also 1000 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 6: on testing the players, looking at giving insights through lab 1001 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 6: testing to the players everything from the diets to performance 1002 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 6: and even grass allergies. So we take a lot of 1003 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 6: pride in the value of the testing that QUEST does 1004 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 6: for those athletes, and we want fans to know you 1005 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 6: can get the same insights when you test with Quests 1006 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 6: as well. 1007 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 3: Nine or four allergies are kicking in now, so yes, 1008 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 3: it's certainly something good to do, no question. 1009 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 4: And obviously fans, a. 1010 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: Lot of people fans are listening to this in the 1011 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: parking lot. They're tail getting the weeding to go into 1012 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: the game and they're really excited for your giveaway today 1013 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 3: on game day. 1014 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 4: Tell the fans what they're going to get and what 1015 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 4: you and the Giants are handing out. 1016 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, look, we've been excited to be part of 1017 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 6: the Legacy series. 1018 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 5: As you said, today is a. 1019 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 6: Legacy game with a presenting sponsor. We're giving out an 1020 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 6: awesome giveaway for the first twenty five thousand fans entering 1021 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 6: the stadium. That's a Lawrence Taylor bobblehead. You know this 1022 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 6: bubblehead series. I know they've always been really popular. This 1023 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 6: one's going to include the one hundred season logo. So 1024 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 6: we're super excited to be part of that giveaway. 1025 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be a lot of fun. And you 1026 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 3: know those bubbleheads can be collectibles. We've had a few 1027 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 3: of those over the years. They're all fantastic and LTA 1028 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 3: he was voted the best Giant in the Greatest Giant 1029 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,479 Speaker 3: and Giant's history, so it must have today. Finally, and Gary, 1030 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: you've been talking about this people today really focused on 1031 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 3: their health more than ever. Just tell everyone a little 1032 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 3: bit more about the services that Quest offers the health 1033 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: fans build their health history and what else they can 1034 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: learn at testwquest dot com. 1035 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1036 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 6: Look, I think people are starting to be a lot 1037 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 6: more proactive in managing their health, which we think is 1038 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 6: really exciting coming out of the pandemic. I think people 1039 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 6: have also been recognizing the role that lab testing can 1040 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 6: play in and help you manage their health. So when 1041 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 6: you have your lab test done at Quest, we really 1042 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 6: encourage everyone to make a my Quest account. My Quest 1043 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 6: is an easy to use app that's got a ton 1044 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 6: of different tools in it to help you image schedule 1045 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 6: your appointments, your test results, and securely pay your bills. 1046 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 6: But by choosing Quest over time, fans have the ability 1047 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 6: to see their lab results historically and build that personal 1048 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 6: health history. So no matter what happens, if you move, 1049 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 6: if you change your job, your insurance changes, you can 1050 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 6: always have those lab results at your fingertips. We've also 1051 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 6: started offering some other convenience services for lab testing. We 1052 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 6: have a service called Quest Mobile, so if it's offered 1053 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 6: in your area, we can have a lab tech or 1054 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 6: af for bottomists. Come to your home or your office 1055 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 6: and take your lab sample there instead of you coming 1056 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 6: to a service center. That's a great offering for people 1057 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 6: who've got limited mobility or a really busy schedule. And 1058 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 6: we also now have a Quest online store where people 1059 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 6: can buy their own lab tests. The same test available 1060 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 6: to doctors anytime at Quest Health dot com. So learn 1061 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 6: more about how to get started. You know, come along 1062 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 6: to Testwithquest dot com. There's a link there to set 1063 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 6: up a my Quest account, request the historical results from Quest, 1064 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 6: and you know, please also follow us on the socials 1065 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 6: at Test with Quest. We're really excited the partnership with 1066 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 6: the Giants, really excited for the Legacy Game today and 1067 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 6: look forward to seeing everyone inside. 1068 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Gary, I can't wait to go slide out of 1069 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: the booth during one of our longer recorded interviews to 1070 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 3: get my hands on one of those LT bibbleheads. I'm 1071 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 3: very excited. It should be a great addition to the series. 1072 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us and enjoy the Legacy Game. 1073 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 6: Thanks mate, Thanks having. 1074 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 4: On always gone to talk to one of our sponsors. 1075 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: Gary Clark from Quest at a fantastic job, an excellent 1076 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: job by all our guest today Bob Poppa with Brian Dabile. 1077 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 3: Of course Ryan Fowler giving us invaluable information on the commanders, 1078 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 3: and then of course Jason Pennock giving us some insight 1079 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 3: into the Giants defense and how they might stop Jayden 1080 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: Daniels and that commander's offensive attack. 1081 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us. 1082 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 3: On the Giants Total Podcast, brought to you by Citizens 1083 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 3: the official Bank of the Giants. I am John Schmelk. 1084 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: Enjoy the game this weekend. We'll talk to you next time. Everybody,