1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: This you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. They gotta look 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: zenam book. 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Also a reminder here, we didn't 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 5: get a chance to touch on this earlier in the week. 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: It because we were celebrating the success and the championship 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 5: for the Indiana Hoosiers and Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: and everything that came along with that whole spectacle. But 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 5: now that Indiana has won the title, be sure to 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 5: check out the final leaderboard for the Fox Sports Radio 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: College Football Playoff Bracket Challenge. Four listeners in the Bracket 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: Challenge had perfect brackets and winning the host standings was 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 5: none other than Carrie Roads. He had only one incorrect 38 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 5: pick in the first round, but had Indiana beating Miami 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 5: in the championship game. 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Congrats to Carrie and the four listeners. Where you get 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 3: visit Fox Sports Radio dot com. We're talking. 42 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Telling you what going on. 43 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: So big time? 44 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: How many did y'all? Miss? 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: I was done in the like second round. I think 46 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: pretty quick team. I was all the way done in 47 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: the second. 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: You know how bad my bracket was. A team I 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 5: had picked in the final didn't score a point. That's 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 5: how bad mine was. So is what it is man, 51 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: But congratulations four perfect brackets. 52 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: Carrie Rhodes. 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: The winner came. 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: Down to him and Andy Furman, and ultimately Rhodes gets 55 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 5: it done. Now that being said, there's been a lot 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 5: of speculation about what the future of Travis Kelsey is 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: going to be, and he had some thoughts on his 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: podcast about the recent edition of Eric B Enemy, who 59 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: was back. Eric B Enemy spent one season with the 60 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 5: Bears as their running backs coach, and Matt Naggie is 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 5: moving on Eric B Enemy's back of the building as oc. 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: So let's take a listen to Travis Kelsey's response. 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: I think it's great. 64 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: I think it's a marriage is going to pick up 65 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 6: right where it left off. Eb and who he is 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 6: as a coach. You can see kind of his personality, 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 6: what he brings to his table in that Chicago team. 68 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 6: I know Ben Johnson has his own version of that. 69 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 6: He's a very tough guy and what he did in 70 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 6: uh in Detroit. He brought over as well, and you 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 6: can see those running backs over Chicago and their their 72 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 6: body of work was was definitely Eric b enemy uh 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 6: style of football man. 74 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: And hell yeah, I can't wait to see him back 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: in the building. 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 6: Man, He's one of He's one of my favorite coaches 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 6: of all time, one of my favorite people of all time. 78 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 6: I've had so many unbelievable, you know, growing moments under 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 6: him as a as a player, as a person, and uh, 80 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 6: I just love the guy and it's gonna be awesome 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 6: to see him back in the building. 82 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: Uh, and see him back wearing the chief logo. Baby, 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: So there we go. 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: I was excited to see him back, which they haven't 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: been a good offense since he left. I know everybody 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: gave Andy Reid the credit for calling the plays, but 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: he was there and I think he played a major role. 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: Didn't won a Super Bowl after he left, well, I mean. 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: A lot of people would debate that it was based 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 4: upon their defense and now their defense played and how 91 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: they have played. I mean, I'm. 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: Just being there. The enemy was doing well like he left, Like, 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: here's the reality. The enemy didn't do well. The Chiefs 94 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl? Like can we stop? 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: Like I'm just to the reunion be people can have 96 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: opinions outside of yours. Pretty okay, that was true there, 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: Well in your estimation, it wasn't true. A lot of 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 4: people would say a lot of people would say Spagnola 99 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: and that defense was the catalyst of that team success. 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 2: That's not a that's not a that's my truth. 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: How about I hope Patrick Mahomes go somewhere else so 102 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: we can really see that Steve Spagnola defense. 103 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: Well, I mean he did go somewhere else because he 104 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: hasn't been to Patrick Mahomes that was there early on. 105 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: He hasn't been. 106 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 4: He wasn't that guy this year, last year, He wasn't 107 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: that guy the year before. 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: He was hurt. 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, well there you go, he's hurt. 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: There you go like that. That makes it all better. Facts, 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: that makes it all better. Patrick Mahomes was hurt, and 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: and that's it. Like, okay, But what I do know 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 4: is Eric b Enemy had a bigger impact on that 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: offense than what he was giving credit for. 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: That's what I do know. How about that great they 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: won a super Bowl. 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm totally aware of the fact that they won a 118 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: super Bowl, and I'm totally aware of the fact that 119 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 4: the catalyst of their team has been their defense and 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: whether people want to give them that credit or not, 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: they haven't been the same since ERICB. 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: Enemy and the Cheetah left that team done. That's my 123 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: that's that's my take on it. 124 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: Now, you could come in and say what reality is 125 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: from your reality, but my reality is a little different 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: than yours. And that's okay. It's an old book. Just 127 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 4: take a look. It's reading Rainbow. There you go, my 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: reading Rainbow break take that breake Quin. So my opinion, 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: while you're in your look, he didn't went to AI. 130 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: Let me go to AI. Let me let me go 131 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: to AI. I'm not going to are in there go it. 132 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: My opinion is okay, this is a good marriage for 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: both Eric B. Enemy and obviously some of the players, 134 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: guys like Travis Kelcey who missed them and wanted him back. 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: To say that the Chiefs need him is completely false 136 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: and not true. They won a Super Bowl, they won 137 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: another AFC championship and lost in the Super Bowl without him. 138 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: This is the first year where you saw signs of struggles, 139 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: and I would say I'll be curious to see what 140 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: happens with their offense next years as Eric Bana me 141 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: left and went for other opportunities. I don't think things 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: worked out in Washington. They didn't work out at UCLA. 143 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: So it is what it is like again. 144 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, it ends up being the right fit 145 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: at a certain spot for all parties involved, and that 146 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: could be what this is. So I know Travis Kelsey 147 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: is excited about it. I think that the bigger take 148 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: wasn't the Eric b Enemy take on this. It's the 149 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: fact that everyone thought Travis kels was going to retire, 150 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: and he alluded to the way he talked about it, 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: like you can't wait to see him in that building 152 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: and all that, Like, oh, all right, so you're coming back. 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: Then? That was I thought, actually the. 154 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Bigger take from the SoundBite hmmm, because every TV network 155 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: wrote him off like it was the last game he'd 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: ever play, and it kind of made it sound like, 157 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: maybe that's not the case. 158 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: I did my thing on the Travis Kelsey potential retirement 159 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 5: was I just wonder if he looks at it and says, man, 160 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 5: I don't want to go out without Patrick Mahomes, like I, 161 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: you know, I don't want, you know, my last catch 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: as a chief to be from, you know, Chris Aladuke 163 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: and I believe is his name, and that's no shade 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 5: on him, But I think Travis Kelsey has a storybook potential, storybook. 165 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: Ending in his mind. 166 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: He's got he's got his fantasy that he wants in 167 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: his mind met and that's with Patrick Mahomes on the 168 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: field with him, and he walks off and goes into 169 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 5: the sunset because you know, I think I don't think 170 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: he battled the injuries and was as banged up as 171 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 5: he had been in previous years. And so when you 172 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: hear him in the way he talks about Eric b Enemy, 173 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, well, yeah, maybe the window does open. 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: Maybe Patrick Mahomes starts the season on the pup list 175 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: and maybe there's an opportunity for him there. It also, 176 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 5: you know, would indicate that apparently things weren't weren't great 177 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: with Matt Naggie. He's now interviewing as the OC and 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: Philly when he was up for the head coaching job 179 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: in Tennessee, and there's not a pathroom to get back 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: to Kansas City. 181 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 4: So coaches go different places and underperform all the time 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 4: after having success somewhere prior to that happens. 183 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: That's not unique. 184 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Sure, Uniquet Mahomes as quarterback, I would love to call 185 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: plays for Patrick. Sure, once he became Patrick Mahomes, I 186 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: can make a bad play call and I know he's 187 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: good enough to overcome that. Well, the same tell the 188 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: truth about it, Like Naggy did not get the same 189 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: results as as Aerby Enemy as the offensive coordinator, But 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: yeah he did because they didn't. 191 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: They were ranked, they won a super Bowl, they went 192 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: the two. What's their ranking under Naggy? 193 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: What? 194 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: What's their offensive rankings? Doesn't matter if they win a 195 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: super Bowl? 196 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: Yes, because there's a reason why. 197 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so so Trent, here's here's the Let's put 198 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: Dilpourh in the Hall of Fame. Like, hey, y'all won 199 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, Trent, You're in the Hall of Fame too. 200 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: Everything. 201 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: He's always got a Super Bowl, He's always got a 202 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 203 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: He does he always one of the greatest defenses in 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: the history of the game. Let's put Vince there. Let's 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: put h McMahon in there. Like, let's wrong, let's go 206 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 4: back to eighty five, Like, let's put McMahon in. Cocky 207 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: QB known as it's a great argument when you use 208 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: only two cases in the history of the NFL. If 209 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 4: you going though, if you did that the other day, Q, 210 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: I learned from the best. You're gonna give me Indiana? 211 00:10:59,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 7: Who wait? 212 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: What a basketball school? 213 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? 214 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: Okay, Craig, you gave me one example. I'm giving you two. 215 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: I beat you by one. 216 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: What are you talking about when we were discussing the 217 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: Duke Blue Devils being a football school and you used 218 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: Indiana as an example as well. They are considered to 219 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: be a football basketball school as well. I mean, I'm 220 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: saying you gave me one extreme example. I gave you 221 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: two extreme examples. I'm not not hiding from that. But nonetheless, 222 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: Trent Dilfer and what what's what's what's McMahon's first day 223 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: at this point, Jim McMahon, Jim McMahon, there you go, 224 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: I mean, man or not that. I mean you're saying, oh, 225 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: you got Patrick Maholmes. That's you're going to win a 226 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: Super Bowl? Like, let's just go work go full circle here? Okay, yes, 227 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: seing factful as a play caller. 228 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that he's now interviewing for other offensive coordinator jobs, 229 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: is that fair, right? 230 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: No? It's not fair. I mean, because Andy Reid. That's 231 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: the reality of it. 232 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: The funny thing about your argument is you're trying to 233 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: make an argue about who the OC is, as if 234 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: it matters. Reid still calls the plays. Bro That's why 235 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: Eric Banamy wanted to go somewhere else. 236 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh, it doesn't have any. 237 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: Okay, So there's no contribution to the success of the offense, because. 238 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Sure, sure there's contribution. I'm not trying to be little 239 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: what they're doing. But if Andy Reid calls the plays, 240 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: no different than Kyle Shanahan, No that different than Sean McVay, 241 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: no different than Kevin O'Connell. Do you think the offensive 242 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: coordinator position is as important if the guy who's actually 243 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: calling the plays is the head coach? 244 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 4: Yes, it is important because of the structure, because of 245 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 4: the execution of it, the implementation of it. 246 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: And here's what I tell you is the personal relationships 247 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: of it. 248 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: You can't sit there, You can't sit there in one 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: instance and say, well, you gotta give Eric bin Me 250 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: credit and then not give Matt Naggie credit. 251 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: Then can you, well, Catt Naggy was not The offense 252 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: was not as productive under mcnaggy as it was under 253 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 4: Eric b enemy. 254 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: Right, who didn't call plays. 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: And by the way, there was times when it wasn't 256 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: as you're saying, both of them didn't call plays correct. 257 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: Okay, so it doesn't matter right now. What you're making 258 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: is that he's back, like he's gonna make a difference. 259 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: It's not gonna make a difference. 260 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Their issue is the pieces around Patrick Mahomes. 261 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: I don't buy that. I don't buy that. And the 262 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: reason why I don't buy it. 263 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: Is but Chelsea isn't the same player. 264 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: He is the same that. I mean, he isn't he's older. 265 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 4: Like that's fine, I don't. I don't have a problem 266 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: with debating, like there's no debate on Chelsea is old, 267 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: Like it's not he's not the same player. I get that. 268 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: But if you're telling me the impact of the o 269 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: C on Kansas City has no bearing on their success, 270 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: I've never said it doesn't hating you're saying. 271 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter as much if he's not calling the plays. 272 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: It's different compared to other organisations with the head coach. 273 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: For example, John Harbaugh is the head coach of the 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: New York Giants. You know what he's not gonna do LeVar. 275 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: He's okay. 276 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: So don't you think the offensive coordator matters a little 277 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: bit more then? 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: Well in. 279 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: That category, in that instance, it matters more. Yes, that's correct, 280 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: you my god. But the behind the scenes is just 281 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: as important as the person who's calling the plays. 282 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: It's just as important, and it is it is, by 283 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: the way, the behind the scenes for both is the same. 284 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: The differences those guys aren't the ones pulling the trigger on. 285 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: Game day, which has a significant importance. 286 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: I've played for plenty of offensive coordinators who can put 287 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: together a good game plan, but when the game starts, 288 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: they don't know how. 289 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: To call plays. 290 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's like having a defensive coordinator who. 291 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: Calls, I am an NFL We're gonna you know, I'm 292 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: an NFL vet. You do know that. I've been around 293 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: offensive coordinators too. I'm not a quarterback, but i'm pretty 294 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: I'm pretty learning. 295 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: And you've never been around a defensive coordinator who couldn't 296 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: call good defense? 297 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: Well, didn't know what was coming. I wouldn't say couldn't 298 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: call put you in a bad spot. 299 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: Well, I would say most most head coaches are delegators 300 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: of duties, That's what I would say. And if you 301 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: want to not delegate play calling because you trust your 302 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: play calling instincts better, or take over during the course 303 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: of a game because you feel like you can make 304 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: a difference more so than what the OC is doing. 305 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: Sure, I've been around O c's and d c's that 306 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: been that way. I've been around head coaches that way. 307 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: You mean, where are you going with this? What do 308 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: you mean? What am I saying? Well, you're not even 309 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: answering the question. Have you not been with the defensive 310 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: coordinator whoere you're like, you see it couldn't keep plays? 311 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't. 312 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't know that I've ever been around a coordinator 313 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: that couldn't call plays, or or a head coach that 314 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: couldn't call plays. 315 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you've never been with a defensive coordinator you 316 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,479 Speaker 1: thought was bad at calling defenses? 317 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: Well, I thought they were bad coordinators. 318 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: But I mean that's what I wouldn't say, that they 319 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: couldn't call plays. 320 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: They called plays. They got the job. 321 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: Okay, how many people get a coordinator's job at the 322 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: NFL level, at the pro level, I mean, there's only 323 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: so many jobs. There's all you got to go through 324 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: a very very extensive process from what it looks like. 325 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: To get these positions, they had to do something right 326 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: to get there. They had to do something right. What 327 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: did they do right? Because I don't know. I mean 328 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: maybe I just don't know. Maybe I'm just ignorant to it. 329 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Apparently you don't, because like Kevin Patulo, did he do 330 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: a good job Philly? 331 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: Obviously not one job? Yeah? Then he got fired? Like yeah, 332 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: let's give this guy try it doesn't work out? Well, okay, Like. 333 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: Well, that opens up a large Then that opens up 334 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: a larger conversation because the time. Then that opens up 335 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: a larger conversation because to me, you gotta be good 336 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: enough to be able to get the job, to mes 337 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: enough to get. 338 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Away from any of their ability to get the job 339 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: or what their job is. 340 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: When they become an OC. But the reality is, LeVar, if. 341 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: You're not calling a place, the title isn't as powerful. 342 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: Hear this, It's just not do you hear what this 343 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: young man is going to me? Right now? 344 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: All right, let's move on. Let's move on this younger 345 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: generation of guys. Man, I'm telling you, they different, They different, Come. 346 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: On, man, I mean to that point though, if the 347 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: head coach is calling plays. 348 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Then I would say, here, let's have something, well, 349 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: let's have some sense edit the. 350 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 5: For for example, Kyle Shannan's lost a bunch of coordinators, 351 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 5: Sean mcvay's lost a bunch of coordinators. If you know 352 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 5: Declan Doyle leaves, you know Ben Johnson still calls the plays. 353 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 5: There would be a significant influence of the coach on 354 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: the offensive structure and success. 355 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Detroit, there was the same team this year. I 356 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: lost Ben Johnson, right, he was actually calling plays. He 357 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: goes to Chicago. Are they the same same team as 358 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: last year? No, Ben Johnson's calling plays. He happens to 359 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: be really good at it. It makes a difference. 360 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: My god, I just I'm done. I'm done. I don't 361 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: want to talk to Cue anymore for this segment. All right, 362 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: that's fine, I'm done. Do I have a livery I'm 363 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: going to prepare for my life. That's no, you should. 364 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: We've ran long on the segment. Take us to break. 365 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, man, come out. 366 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 5: Sometimes you're the ass and sometimes you're the dry piece 367 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 5: of toilet paper. But if you ever wiped and wondered 368 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: is this as good as it gets? It's not switch 369 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: to life changing wet extra large flushible Dude Wives because 370 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: wetter just cleans better available at Amazon and at major 371 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 5: retailers nationwide. Dude Wives, best clean pants down here? 372 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: Can we at least answer that before he goes as fin? 373 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: I think he comes back. 374 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: It sounds like he wants to come back. 375 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: That was the only damn thing we're trying to get 376 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: from the combo of LeVar hijacked it. 377 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why LeVar is Patrick Mahomes so much? 378 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: Why does he hate Travis Kelsey so much? He's taking 379 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: a show. 380 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: I know what this is because of the trade we made. 381 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 5: Hey man, We traded Patrick Mahomes for Babe Ruth. 382 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: When y'all, dude, I hate when y'all do this. What 383 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: go to break? Man to break? Go to break? Hey? 384 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: And yes, he's getting his offensive coordinator back. He's going 385 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: to come back and have a great year, all right. 386 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: They're going to be a productive offense, score more points, average, 387 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 4: more yards. 388 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: You know, Patrick Mahomes will be back healthy for week one. 389 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 4: Don't Matter'll be good because there will be enemies back. 390 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: We will. 391 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 5: We're going to tell you if you've ever wondered, what 392 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: would it be like to go back in time. 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I don't understand. 415 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here. 416 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: Don't don't make us turn this on you yea. 417 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: Or or Jonas and Jonas knocks with the air. 418 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: But they got a little thing going on right now 419 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: between like their communication lines, you know, so that I get. 420 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: That you and Lareen let me know if you need 421 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: to change those channels again. 422 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: Jonas, see there you go. What the hell that means? 423 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: They're just on some weirdo type stuff right now? Man? 424 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 3: What's the weirdo stuff? 425 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: It's all good? Got it? 426 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: Bring us back into the Jonas Knox Show, so me 427 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: and Brady can spank your ass. 428 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 5: And by the way, uh coming up in we'll call 429 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 5: it a little over fifteen minutes from now. We've got 430 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: another award we're going to hand out on this show. 431 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 5: That'll be yours. Right here on FSR. Here's a game 432 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 5: day tip. Order pizza before the QB shouts the first 433 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: hunt and if you're hungry, the Big New Yorkers got 434 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 5: those giant foldable sletcher Big New York and right now, 435 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: just ten bucks the biggest pizza for the biggest game, 436 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: only at Pizza Hut. All right, yeah, so here we go. 437 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: Charles Bettiaco. He entered the twenty twenty three NBA Draft. 438 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 5: He signed a two way contract with the San Antonio 439 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: Spurs twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, that's. 440 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: Correct, So that's hitting on three years now. 441 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 5: He was playing at Alibama, decided I want to go 442 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 5: enter the NBA draft, signed a two way contract with 443 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 5: the Spurs. 444 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: He's back. 445 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 5: He's been granted a temporary restraining order to return to 446 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: the Alabama Crimson Tide and college basketball immediately immediately, a 447 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: judge ruled on Wednesday. Betty Yaka went undrafted, never appeared 448 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 5: in an NBA game after he played on two NCAA 449 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: tournament teams at Alabama in twenty one and twenty twenty two. 450 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 5: He then sued the NCAAA a day earlier after it 451 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: denied the school's appeal to allow him to return to 452 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: college basketball. 453 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: So he gets the tro and he is back with 454 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: the Alabama Crimson. 455 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: How many years does he have to play? Just one? 456 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows at this point. 457 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: Seems like he's got two too. 458 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: But he also so he played for the Spurs, Nuggets, 459 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: and Pistons in the G League. I mean, it feels 460 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: like a player who's maybe exhausting all efforts to keep 461 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: the basketball dream alive and it's now realized that the 462 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: G League doesn't pay as well hose college basketball does, 463 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: which just goes to tell you or show you how 464 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: messed up the system is. And it's why I keep 465 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: going back to this point that college sports now is 466 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, and that's at every sport. And you 467 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: can spare me the whole G League conversation, because if 468 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: guys are leaving the G League, which is a professional 469 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: like minor league, to the NBA to go back to 470 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: college basketball because they get paid more, right, there is 471 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: that this function within the system. So at some point 472 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: Congress needs to step in. Not that I ever feel 473 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: like this is what works to fix something, but I'll 474 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: just put it this way. Someone needs to step in 475 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: and bring some sanity to all this and say, okay, 476 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: let's just let's just reshape your look at this. And 477 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: the problem is the universities are going to have to 478 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: admit one of two things. Either they are going to 479 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: have to start calling these student athletes employe, which they 480 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: don't want to do because it's going to bring up 481 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: their costs in every capacity that liability costs you know, 482 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: different benefits as well, you know, post career benefit, retirement 483 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, or they're gonna have to hope 484 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: and seek this anti trust protection that everyone keeps talking 485 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: about where they can then start to shape some rules 486 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: without being subject to constantly being sued like this. 487 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: Where they have no power. 488 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: But this to me, I know he didn't play in 489 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: an NBA game, but he did sign in essence an 490 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: NBA contract at least a two way. And you see 491 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: two ways in hockey, you see it in basketball and 492 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: the pros, And it's like, we're. 493 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: Getting to a point, now, what does two way contract mean? 494 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 4: What's the difference? What's is there a one way contract? 495 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 496 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: One way is just you signed with an NBA team franchise, 497 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: Like like if you know things aren't going well, you're 498 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: not getting sent back down to the minors. 499 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: If you're in a two way, you essentially get paid 500 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: basically would would equate. 501 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: To be like a minimum salary at the top level, 502 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: and then you have the ability to be sent back 503 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: down to the minors and play under those conditions. 504 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: It's like options in baseball, like the options. 505 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I got you. I just it blows me away. 506 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: I always thought if you declared and you enter into 507 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: you er your name into getting drafted. 508 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: It's a wrap. 509 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: So so let me give you an example of house 510 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen in football. This is what I 511 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: would try to do if I was an agent slash player. 512 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: My player doesn't get drafted, we're going back. Let's say 513 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: what no, no, no, no, no is but he makes the 514 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: practice squad. Okay, signs as a free agent, makes the 515 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: practice squad, but never makes the active roster. And let's 516 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: say he's on practice squads for the next two three years. 517 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: I would argue, if he left early and he's got 518 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: a year or two of eligibility, why why can't he 519 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: go back? 520 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 2: Go back? Yeah, go back? Like you could do this 521 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: in football theoretically. 522 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: If you're not good enough at the point time that 523 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 4: you gone to the league and you're going to go back, 524 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: try to go back to college now that you can 525 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: make money at the college level and you can successfully 526 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: do it. While I don't I don't like it, I 527 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 4: don't agree with it, but if you're able to do 528 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: it and get a couple dollars for the next two years, 529 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: that can help buy you sometime in entering the workforce 530 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 4: of what you're going to do. Because these guys, these 531 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: are the type of guys they can't leave it alone anyway, 532 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 4: Like you're going to see them working out. They're like 533 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: I remember I won't say his name, but do do 534 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: played when Alan Everson was in school and I saw 535 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: him like I don't know, maybe like a little while ago, 536 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: and and you know, hey, how you doing. 537 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: How you been da da da? 538 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: Man? 539 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: You know, just keeping my game right, just seeing if 540 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 4: there's any opportunities out there. 541 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: I could back up a couple guys, Like I look 542 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: at these guys. 543 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: They're bums these days, Like I'm looking at the dude like, bruh, 544 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: you're older than me. Like, these guys are out there. 545 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: They can't let it go, they can't let the gang go. 546 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: And you're going to get if this becomes a trend 547 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: that is you're able to do, you're going to have 548 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: just as many washed up athletes trying to do this 549 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: as you do normal athletes going through the normal process. 550 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: Like last I checked, college was still developmental for professional 551 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 5: correct Like it's a developmental phase to get you to 552 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: the next level. 553 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 4: So your base always saw college as it's your college 554 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: is you go get educated and for football, and you know, 555 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: within three years time, if you've done really well. Then 556 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: at the end of that third year, midway through the 557 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: third year whatever, you're weighing. 558 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: Out what your options are. 559 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't even call development, it's like necessary time serve. 560 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: But yeah, but my point is, so that's the step 561 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 5: that leads you to becoming a professional. It's a necessary step. 562 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 5: And so now you've already mandatory. You already have somebody 563 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 5: who has taken that step, gone professional and then decided 564 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna come back, go back. If that's the case, 565 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: I'll go back to high school. I guarantee I could 566 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 5: get at least a couple of more plays than I 567 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 5: did when I played nice I. 568 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: Didn't play my senior year of high school basketball, So 569 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: why not? 570 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: Why not? 571 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe a set shot. But again, this is 572 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: not even almost fifty years old. I'm gonna go get 573 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: a set shot going at North Hale's ash. That's out 574 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: the North Hales. 575 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 5: It just it used to be back in the day 576 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: to where if look, if you you left like that 577 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: was a big decision. It's why you weighed your options, 578 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 5: why I want to leave school or do I want 579 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 5: to go professional? 580 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: Because once you left, that is it. 581 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that was it, and so if you got 582 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: to the professional level and your options dried up, you 583 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 5: could go play in Europe. You could go play in 584 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: the sea, like you can go do all these other 585 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: there were all these other options for you, avenues for 586 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 5: you in the NFL. You've got you know, the XFL, 587 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: the USFL, all these other leagues that have come up. 588 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 5: You can go play in Europe. But like now it's yeah, now, 589 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: it's nah, just go back to college, like what wait, wait, okay, 590 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: And it's apparently that's just the thing now that's going 591 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: to college. 592 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: College is running a muck right now. 593 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: Man, that's I mean, if you if you really want 594 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: to open it up, I mean, college is running a 595 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: muck for list students too. How many kids go to 596 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: get the undergraduate degree, take on debt to go major 597 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: and do something they think they're going to do, and 598 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: then they go into the work world and it doesn't 599 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: work out the way they thought, or you know, they 600 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: they you know, majored in something that they ultimately find 601 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: out they don't like. 602 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: And what have these kids do? 603 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: They go back to school, they take on more debt, 604 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: and then they find themselves again in a position still 605 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: trying to find a job. Yes, they more advanced schooling, 606 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: but it doesn't play to their benefit. 607 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: Like you're overqualified. You got overqualified, but you also don't 608 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: have experience. So there's that too, right, So. 609 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: Lack of experience overqualified you're going to come in. 610 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have kind of. 611 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: Ruined not only the college experience, but what its purpose 612 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: is for everyone, for a lot of young people, and 613 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: even beyond that. It's like extended not just from sports 614 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: but also in the students too. 615 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: It's a false scent. Like you said, I mean, you 616 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: have a lot more people can buy beer now. It's 617 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: pretty sweet for your teammates too, you know, like, hey, Jim, 618 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 4: you're thirty. 619 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: Who is the case? 620 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: That's great You're hanging out with eighteen and nineteen year 621 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: old Yeah, tripped out. I mean that happens when you're 622 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: in the pros. I mean you're twenty one, but I mean, 623 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: you know, I guess basketball you could be under twenty one. 624 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I think it's strange. I really do. 625 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: And listen, we talked about how how old Indiana's roster was, 626 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: and I know this basketball kid, but I'm looking at 627 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: the football side of it. 628 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: We're talking about how. 629 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: Old they were on Indiana's roster like a bunch of 630 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: mature adults on this football And that's not and that's 631 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 4: what and that's kind of what I'm touching on. And 632 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: they're not even that old, and they have been in 633 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: college the entire time. I just can't even imagine if 634 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 4: a dude has been exposed, which in basketball, basketball pures 635 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: be sitting back listening to our show and say, you 636 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 4: don't even understand basketball because you could play against pros 637 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: when you're in high school. 638 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: La la, la la la. 639 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 4: They have these leagues and this, that and the other, 640 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: and you're right, basketball has a little bit of a 641 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: different feel to it. You can interact and play on 642 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: teams and play against and compete against guys that are 643 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: in the pros. And a lot of times those guys 644 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: go early, so they're young as well. I get that, 645 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: But there's still something to be said about living the 646 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: lifestyle of a professional athlete. Whether you're in the G 647 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: League or you're on the main roster, there's something to 648 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: be said about you have transitioned to that phase and 649 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: that level of your career and then you go back 650 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: to amateurism. That just sounds. 651 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: Just bad. It doesn't sound that doesn't sound. 652 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: Proper at all, because it does take away from to me, 653 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: what the opportunities that are represented by the guys that 654 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: are already currently there playing at the school and the 655 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: young guys that are trying to get there to play 656 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: for those schools. You've taken up one roster spot. And again, 657 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 4: if that becomes prevalent, then how many the transfer portal 658 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: is a great example, how many? How many scholarships have 659 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: been eaten up from high school kids by the transferred portal? 660 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: Why would not happen if I have a guy that 661 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 4: went pro that doesn't want to be pro anymore because 662 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: it's not going the way they want it, I'm going 663 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: back now knowing that you can do it. Like I 664 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: think it's the knowledge and understanding that you can do 665 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: it that you're probably going to see us a trend 666 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 4: of athletes trying to do it. 667 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 5: I've wondered what's happened at the JUCO level, like, because 668 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: that used to be like if they're screwed. 669 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: And that's why they're saying you can you can have 670 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 4: your or it doesn't count. Your eligibility doesn't count. 671 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, He's exactly right. Well, and that and they're 672 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: they're pushing for, like, if you really think about it, 673 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: they're pushing for the five years to play five because 674 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: they don't even want to have to worry about the 675 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: NCAA trying to rule on like you know, different red 676 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: shirts and everything else that goes along with that. They're 677 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: just saying, screw it, let's just let's just like one 678 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: of the rules that came up with, at least in 679 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: football was, you know, right now, if you play four games, okay, 680 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: want anything over that, you you then burn your red shirt. 681 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: But if your teammates to the playoff off, you could 682 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: play in every single game and it won't count. 683 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: So theoretically, right like you could you. 684 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: Can play in what four games in the playoff if 685 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: your team makes it all the way, and you can 686 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: basically play more than half a season, but you know 687 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: half that would have counted to the red shirt. 688 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: So then they said, well, why don't we make it 689 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: nine games? All right? 690 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: So now the player can play nine games, and then 691 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: if they go into the playoffs again, if they make 692 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: a deep run, now he's played an entire season. Yeah, again, 693 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't count for his eligibility. The like, the the 694 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: NCAA is so powerless, and so weak. Not only one 695 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: do they like like like they count every record that's 696 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: that's been there, every record that's out there, like the fact, 697 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: like all that stuff is gone. 698 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: It's all gone out the window. 699 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Like I understand why why people make the argument for 700 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: wanting Notre Dame to join a conference or or all other. 701 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 2: Stuff, because we've thrown everything out the window. 702 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: At this point, we're like, yeah, the guy played for 703 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: six years, let's count all six years for a stats. 704 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: He's through for a lot of yards. It's like, yeah, 705 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: let's let's let him play another year. Does it matter. 706 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 2: We don't want to get sued. 707 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: Like the whole thing is such a mess right now. 708 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: It's actually incredible to sit back and watch, but it 709 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: is sad for the players get caught up and not 710 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: finding a scholarship somewhere, not getting that development or getting 711 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: that experience, because we're allowing kids who should have to 712 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: move on to either pro sports or whatever's next, into 713 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: the real world before we actually provide them that opportunity. 714 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: Now now we're not allowing these high school kids to be 715 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: experienced the same thing. 716 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 5: It's two pros and a cup of Joe. 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You guys should do that more often. 733 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just did something for me. 734 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 5: Okay, The Ravishing ric Man Ravishing, Rick Rude top three 735 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 5: favorite professional wrestler of all time. 736 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: I love swagged out yeah him and Razor Ramone. Oh 737 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: yeah yeah. 738 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 739 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up in a little over 740 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 5: ten minutes, we. 741 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: Go out of here. 742 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 4: Huh yeah, yeah there, Rick Rude ones wild a lot 743 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 4: of rumors about that. 744 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 5: Albert is gonna stop by. He'll be our ravishing rec 745 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 5: Rude coming up here a little over ten minutes. 746 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 3: From now on FSR. 747 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 5: But right now it is time for our Express pros 748 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 5: Pro of the week and the pro of the week 749 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 5: this week goes too. 750 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 7: Sam under Center's gonna hand the ball off coming here, 751 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 7: signs Walker ten five dozen touchdown say Hawks from fifteen 752 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 7: out his second TD tonight, ken Walker the third, and 753 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 7: I don't want to call him a blowout, but right now, 754 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 7: friends the thirty three to six, the Seahawks on top, 755 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 7: and there's still two twenty three to play. In the third, 756 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 7: the handoff Walker, He's coming back to the right side. 757 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 3: He's gonna score touchdown Seahawks. 758 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 7: Ken Walker the third skips in around the right side. 759 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 3: Great blocking. 760 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: The Niners haven't stopped it yet. 761 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 7: His third touchdown of the night, ken Walker, I think 762 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 7: might get a game. 763 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 5: Bolt Seahawks Radio Network on the call. That is your 764 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 5: Express pros Pro of the Week. Kenneth Walker the third, 765 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: nineteen carries one hundred and sixteen yards three touchdowns in 766 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: that wipeout of the Seattle Seahawks over the Niners over 767 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 5: the weekend. He is your Express Pros of the week 768 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 5: facing a peak season looking for a new team member. 769 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: Workforce solutions from Express Employment Professionals make hiring easier. Visit 770 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 5: expresspros dot com to find an office and see how 771 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 5: Express can help you hire smarter and faster. 772 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: We didn't have like a more updated highlight. 773 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 3: Ah well, let's see. 774 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: Let me scour the NBA. See what what NBA? Oh? 775 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: I see it is you still want to talk about 776 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 2: the NBA? 777 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not unless you want to talk about. 778 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: That was almost a week ago. I was like, all right, 779 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: that's interesting. 780 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 4: I mean, look, they got Kobe Bryant highlights up on 781 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 4: on four letter word or four letter network right now. 782 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: That's a little old, yeah, you know, but it's the 783 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: It's it's almost NBA time. So yeah, there you go 784 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: and think. 785 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: About it started months ago. 786 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: I did, I did say. I send you guys something 787 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: about Jennie Buss and. 788 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: The Thrillers go by the way. 789 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: Jeanie released a statement based on the ESPN report that 790 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 4: talks about the dysfunction and the family, how angry. 791 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: She was with the sound James and. 792 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 5: All that and thought he wasn't grateful enough they had 793 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 5: drafted his son and so on and so forth, and 794 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 5: she denied that in a statement said it's a shame that, 795 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 5: in so many words, that he had to be brought 796 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 5: into our family drama. So it feels like the Bus 797 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: family's got some issues there. I did like how the 798 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 5: punishment for Lebron James would have been trade him to 799 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 5: the Clippers, like I did like that, Like, you know, 800 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 5: if you're going to trade him anywhere, we'll keep him 801 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 5: in town. 802 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: He doesn't have to move. 803 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 5: We'll just trade him to the Clippers, which I thought 804 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 5: was disrespectful to them. But yeah, now, not great. A 805 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 5: lot of drama going on there with the Bus family. 806 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 5: Tell you what is great Our brand new YouTube channel 807 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 5: for the show though. Just search two pros FSR on 808 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 5: YouTube again. 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By the way, Patrick, what 814 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 5: do you think about the fact that I tried to 815 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 5: give your Seahawks, a little bit of love, and Brady 816 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 5: Coin just defecated on it. 817 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: I was so happy when you picked ken Walker. 818 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about that? 819 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: And you could just I wanted to know what the 820 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: other options were. That was it, Patty? 821 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: Come on, Niners, come on, I'm really happy about it. 822 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 4: Oh ten dollars ban, Yeah for being a Jonas fan.