1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: All Right, girls, I feel so alone right now. Everyone's 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: on their phone and I'm just staring at both of you. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: I have to make sure my facts correct. They're doing 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: that because today is a pop culture topic day, and 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: well we were just discussing and I'll say something to 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: this year. I don't know if you guys have noticed, 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: I haven't been on Instagram that much. I noticed. No 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: one's noticed. 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: I've noticed. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: I've noticed, well I'm not on, but I realized it 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 2: just wasn't like I'm gonna obviously, but I just at 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: the moment, it's just I just I'm so like in 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: a bubble, in my sweet little bubble, and I'm like, 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: I don't really feel like I need to show anything. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: And then also I just kind of like being not 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: on there. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: That's great. 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: And I don't scroll now too, so so I when 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: I got the pop culture I was like, ooh, what's 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: going on. That's exactly why I'm like, oh, and I 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: get used to the island. 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I do get on Instagram, but I don't 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: really I don't really like read like the peoples and 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: the sweeklies and stuff. 26 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: Like that. I used to, but I used. 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: To too, and now I'm just like everyone's just so mean. 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm in all this stuff and I'm like, I'm not 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: really getting anything out. Why why am I? Why am 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: I going there to look at that? You know? 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: So this time it's like, why do I need to 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: know that? 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 34 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't need to know all this information about these 35 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: people's lives, right, So I'm just yeah, and. 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: I think too, I don't know, it's there's a switch 37 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: for this this new year. New Year knew me. But 38 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: I just am not feeding. I'm not even going to 39 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: bring up like because it doesn't matter, the hate the trolls. 40 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 2: It's like I realized, I'm like, oh my god, nothing 41 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: like it actually doesn't matter. It doesn't like I've let 42 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: that affect me for so long for what reason. It 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: was such like a shift in may to go and 44 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: that was one of my resolutions to or goals to 45 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: just like not even like let it bother me. And 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: then I really just kind of saw with it. I'm like, 47 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just such a disservice to myself to 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: even care well you, especially because they just really come 49 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: and go hard on that. I'm like, not even gonna 50 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: say like anything, like, I had this feeling and this 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: may not be what you guys feel about it, but 52 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: there's something to it. I had this moment at one 53 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: point when I remember I was going to go post 54 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: something and I was like, this feels like it cheapens 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: the experience. It actually was, and I just was like, 56 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: for who would I post that? For me? Or for 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: someone I like to keep mine pretty inspirational or pretty 58 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: like real, or like join me in like the you know. Yeah, 59 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: but I just was like that shows somebody something like 60 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: what what is my reason? What's the why for doing that? 61 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: And one I couldn't quite answer that either honestly or 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: find a why or just didn't feel like it mattered. 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: Then I was like, well that's kind of a waste 64 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: of someone's grid. Yeah. So having said all, that is 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: pop culture topics now and now I'm excited because it's 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: juicy and I actually was like, ah, she did no way. 67 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: So topic number one is Jessica Albert recalls incident with 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: daughter Honor that led them to pursue therapy together. This 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: is not fun, So I'm just going to kind of 70 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: read you the background. Jessica Albo's opening upbout how she 71 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: decided on therapy for herself and her two daughters. The 72 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: mom of three forty two has always been open about 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: her family's mental health care. Appearing on the cover of 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Real Simples first ever Feeling issue for their January February edition, 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: the actress an entrepreneur, calls how she came to the decision. 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: So Honor was, she says, Honor was probably eleven, and 77 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: we were arguing all the time about dum dumb stuff, 78 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't want to live like this. 79 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: This is not fun, she shares, she said, I don't. 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: I didn't want us to have a wedge between us 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: as her mother. When I say something, she's going to 82 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: hear it as an argument or as me trying to 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: control her. I wanted there to be someone who could 84 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: explain things in a way I couldn't. What I said 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: to Honor was I want to be a better parent 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: to you, and this is your this is your form 87 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: to basically talk about everything that gets on your nerves 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: that I do. Alba says it wasn't long until both 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: she and Honor started to see how therapy could work 90 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: for them. It put me in check, like, yeah, I 91 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: totally do that, and I'm sorry, I'm going to work 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: on that. It gave her a little bit of perspective too, 93 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: that I'm not the bad guy. I'm just being a parent. 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: She'll come out, she'll come out the other side of it, 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: and I'll still be here. I just wanted to get 96 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: to that point and it worked, she admits, And the 97 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: therapists allowed me to see that it's natural for kids 98 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: to disagree with their parents, and as a parent, it's 99 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: not always about being right or rational in that moment, 100 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: she says. She concludes with saying, I'm not going to front. 101 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: It's a process and I'm not perfect, and so I 102 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: love the fact that she's talking about this. So I'm 103 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: curious for you guys, like, do you like the idea 104 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: of seeing a therapist with your child? You know, do 105 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: you wish you would have done it with your parents? 106 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: And would you consider doing it now with your parents 107 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: or with your kids? Well, that's a lot of you 108 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: go first with her, your parents are no. 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, my first thought to this whole thing was I 110 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: don't think that it has to be done in a 111 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: therapist office to have these conversations. Those are a lot 112 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: of conversations that happen in our home currently. You know, 113 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this right. I am just trying to 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: be a good parent, but I'm you know, so I 115 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: think if if you need it, and if I felt 116 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: like we needed someone to come in and point out 117 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: when I'm doing things that I need to or to 118 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: point out to the kids that I am just being 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: a parent or whatever, sure, I think if it got 120 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: to that point, we would do that. But I also 121 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: do think that there's ways to have those healthy conversations 122 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: on your own with your kids, and I think that 123 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: that's something that everyone should be doing, you know, explaining 124 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: to the kids, we're not always going to get it right. 125 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: We're just trying to parent, We're trying to protect you. 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry when I do it this. Blah blah blah 127 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: blah blah. Would I have gone to therapy with my parents, No, 128 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: there's no way. There's literally zero way. And what I 129 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: would would I now? Nope, absolutely not. 130 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: Well it was funny when I read this, I thought 131 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: about you first, because Janna and I are still in 132 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: like the younger years, yeah, you know, like the eights fives, 133 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: and I thought, gosh, I don't know what I would 134 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: do at eleven. I mean, I'll be honest with you. 135 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm we I am in struggle bus mode with a 136 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: five year old right now. We are in a mode 137 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: and I was like, maybe, like I had this moment 138 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: the other day where I thought, well, maybe there needs 139 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: to be like a third party to tell me, like 140 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: to do something differently or better, just you know whatever, 141 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: because I gosh, I feel like I'm so well rounded 142 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: and I try to go thirty thousand feet, but I'm 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: stir ruggling and these five five is hard. 144 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: I remember five being a hard age, Thank you. 145 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Cat's all different, I specifically, and I remember because I 146 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: remember when Ramsey and Jolie were both five. I remember 147 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: having this conversation. But again, as they get older, yes, 148 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: it's different. So I can see where therapy really especially 149 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: might be needed. But yeah, I mean I think that 150 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: it's for whoever, you know, for each I know, like 151 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: one of my kids, he would probably, you know, the oldest, 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: he'd probably never want to go. Emmy, who's twelve, she might. 153 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 154 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: But we just have a lot of conversations about that stuff. 155 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: We're just very open about it, and I think that 156 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of key for us at least. 157 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: Do you think you got that from going to therapy. 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: No, I think I got that from vowing to do 159 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: it differently than how I grew up. I've just sworn 160 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: to myself, and it really truly just started with saying sorry. 161 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: That was my number one. You know, I do something, 162 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I yell, or I do something I wasn't proud of, 163 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: then I get upset about it and I have this 164 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: guilt and I always just like just say sorry. I 165 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: would make myself say sorry, but that always opened it 166 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: up to a bigger discussion and a bigger explanation and 167 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: a bigger whatever. And I definitely still I mean, I'm 168 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: still yeller, Like I'll still get to a point where 169 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: I will yell at my kids when I've lost it, 170 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not proud of that, and that's something I'm 171 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: really trying to work on. But we just have so 172 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: much conversation around it that again, it's really just. 173 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: So that this is kind of off topic, but just 174 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: from something you said, and I'm just gonna pivot just 175 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: for one second, because something happened the other day where 176 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: I had asked, you know, I was like, Jolie, please 177 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: turn that off. Noice. Jolie please turn that off. By 178 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: the third time, I'm like, I'm like, I don't want to. 179 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: I've said it now. The third like every time my 180 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: voice is gonna I was like, please turn that off. 181 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: And then it's like a little bit more and then 182 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: like by I'm like I then she looks at me like, oh, 183 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: like I I'm like, but I just said it nicely 184 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: the first and you don't listen. Yeah, this is like 185 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, is that Normalcuse I try to be like, 186 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, just I'm the first one. I'm saying, like, 187 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm nicely saying I need you to listen. The second time, 188 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's a little more stern. Third time, Mommy's 189 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: gonna get frustrated. 190 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: And like, so I think of what I've learned in 191 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: my mind for that, but I don't always practice it. 192 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Two completely different things. We're also doing something wrong in 193 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: that sense that an expert may say differently. But I 194 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: think what would work easier in that situation was, you know, Jolie, 195 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: please turn that off. Well, when she doesn't listen that 196 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: first time, going getting on her level, getting eye level 197 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: with her and saying I need you to please turn 198 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: this off, and then it would probably change, I think, 199 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: but we get so busy and we're doing things, and 200 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: we're doing that, and then we're frustrated because we asked 201 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: them to do something three times, you know, And so 202 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I think that that's partly on us as well. 203 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably regret saying this, but so I shouldn't 204 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: even start. But but here goes well because I think 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: we're such a different kind of generation of parent. Like 206 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: for me personally, the way I was raised was out 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: of fear, like if you told me to turn that off, 208 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: not one, or I'm going to get the death stair 209 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: or hit with something like it was eggshell walking, So 210 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't I didn't. I sometimes have this moment where 211 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, I kind of love not sometimes in the moment, 212 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: but I'm sometimes later like, gosh, I love that they're 213 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: like I don't want to because they can say that 214 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: to me. I could never say anything. I've operated out 215 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: of fear. It was like yes, sir, no, sir, it's 216 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: the soap, because I've got the soap before Budge and 217 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: Breast might have. Also, I'm gonna get dreamed. 218 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: I don't what I think we've talked. I feel like 219 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: you I mean. 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I know, there's just I think where I'm 221 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: at right now is there's this really fine line in 222 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: parenting for me. You're shocked, Are you shaming me? I'm 223 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: I'm I'm processing. I'm trying. I'm honest, I'm trying not 224 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: to judge me or process. 225 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think she mays judge you, but she's 226 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: going to take that back. 227 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: Okay, it's damn it, but not judge. They do not 228 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: judge because I know you, like you know what I mean, 229 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: Like I've yelled where you've done things and like you 230 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: know you wouldn't have done so no judgment. Yeah, it's crazy. 231 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: So I just had to think of soap when I 232 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: was like seven, Well he's five and he's a If 233 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm honest, I love him so much. You guys, I'm 234 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: telling you I quite possibly might be raising the president 235 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: of the United States. And I'm not even kidding. He's 236 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: that kind of like leader, unapologetically the one that rides bike. 237 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: So WHOA. That was damn much. No judgment, just physical ability. 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: It was I think it was. It's just like I 239 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: try to run this ride this fine line of like 240 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: what what we had preserving the o genus of some 241 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: of the ways we were raised and also implementing this 242 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: layer of like, actually you can feel and you can 243 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: tell me some things and I want you to. Yeah. 244 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a balance there because at the 245 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: end of the day, we do need them to listen 246 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: to us and do what we've asked them to do. 247 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: We have to because it's also a lot of safety. 248 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: But if they don't fear at all, and I'll go 249 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: back to it and I'm gonna take I'm gonna take 250 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: this back. 251 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 252 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: I struggle with this as well, because do we need 253 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: them to have no fear whatsoever there's no consequence if 254 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: they have to because I mean, I'm saying that now 255 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: as high school kids, like I know the ones whose 256 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: parents don't, they have no fear that they know they're 257 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: gonna go do something. 258 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: There's no consequence at home. 259 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: So that's where that's a hard balance for me, Like 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: it does to me, start with something so small as 261 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: turn the TV off. I don't want them to be 262 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: fearful of me, but I need them to know that like, 263 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: if you're not going to do what I'm ask on 264 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: bigger scales where there's gonna be consequences. 265 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: When kids like developmentally, like I went to school for 266 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: early childhood first, and you learn really quickly, like they 267 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: need discipline. They need to know the boundaries that's feel 268 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: safe to them, because if it's a big, wild world, 269 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel safe to them. Yeah. So I always 270 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: try to operate with this like mentality of I always 271 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: call it like the yard in my brain, not like 272 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: not like the yard in a jail, but like it's 273 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: like they need to know where the fence line is. 274 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: They need to know where you can be pushed to. 275 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: They need to know what's not safe. Like if you're 276 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: not listening to me for anything, then when it is 277 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: about your safety, you won't listen either. 278 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm. It's just it's a hard balance. 279 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: So then would you go to therapy with your kid 280 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: to talk through these steps. I would go to therapy 281 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: with anyone. I love therapy. I would go just because 282 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: I think for someone like well, for the kids, the separation, 283 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: I always want them to I always want to check 284 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: in with that. I also feel like Jolie is a 285 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: lot like her dad where she doesn't express her feelings, 286 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: whereas Jace is a little bit more open to sharing 287 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: feelings at the moment at five. But Jolie is she's 288 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: such a people pleaser, like she just wants and deaths 289 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: where she's like, you know, she shews everyone to be happy. 290 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: So she's like, Mommy, we'll do that, like if that's 291 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: makes it. I'm like, baby, do you want to do that? Honey? 292 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: You don't need to Well, I like both how like anytime, 293 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: like Jace has a mood and he's like, I like 294 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: Daddy's hous better, or I like you know, or he 295 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: you know Michael Kalmbick, well, he sees like you. He 296 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: wants to be says, you know, here's not a good 297 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to be here. And I'm 298 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: like he's five and he's being whatever. But Joe was like, 299 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: I love both places. And I'm like, honey, you don't 300 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: need to say that. I love you for like saying. 301 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: But I was like, I just I want her to 302 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: be able to have a place where she can because 303 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just I see her in her mind 304 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: just always like thinking maybe that's just her age. But 305 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, are you good baby field her, you know, 306 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: because I just I'm like, they have so much they're 307 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: thinking I'm like I want her to go talk it 308 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: all out, you know, and if that needs to be 309 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: me in the room or me out of the room, 310 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: like I've definitely and I think there are some things too, 311 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: like learning stuff like maybe with maybe her might the 312 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: slexia or the ADHD like that, I need to learn 313 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: tools to how to maybe talk to her better too, 314 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: you know. 315 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: So that's a good point. 316 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: And I'm talking to Amy about that because I'm like, 317 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't feel like a ride her a lot, but 318 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: it's because I don't think we're like but I think 319 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: she might need, you know, I don't there's something that 320 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: I think she needs to be. I should really just 321 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: start having joint sessions. Because Amy and I just had 322 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: this compage. So she's like, I think she should do. 323 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I do, And I'm having her being 324 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: evaluated too, like because. 325 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: Well, like I don't think that. 326 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: Like for a very good example of that, it's like 327 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I I don't think Emmy's ADHD, but I have figured 328 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: out we're twelve years in on her life, you know, 329 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Like Kayden, I can say I need you to do one, two, three, 330 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: four five. It's done in ten minutes to any old 331 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I say one yeah, if I say one, two, three, 332 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: she'll come back and be like what was Like, she 333 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: legitimately can't, and so like I've learned, I have to 334 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: ask her one thing, focus on the one thing, and 335 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: then come back to me. Okay, now I need you 336 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: to do this. 337 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: Because we're we get upsided like how do you not remember? 338 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: But I'm like, oh, she just physically can't. Yeah. 339 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: So see, I think you learned that with each child too. 340 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Whether there's ADHD there or not, maybe there's tendencies. I 341 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: don't know, but she cannot focus on a list of 342 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: things to do at once in her head. 343 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: Me neither. Would you go with your parents to therapy 344 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: at this age of your life, Kristin, I, well, I'm 345 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: down to one parent. I would have loved to go 346 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: on therapy with my dad so that I could have 347 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: done some reckoning this side of heaven, because I think 348 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of things I wish I could 349 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: have said to her that I didn't get to say 350 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: that would have felt good for him to hear. I 351 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: am a firm believer though, that the listening is almost 352 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: more important than the talking, and I don't know that 353 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: I have any listening parents left in this moment just 354 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: for their The point in my mom's grief journey is 355 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: just really I'm just very observant right now, and I 356 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: don't know that she is in a listening face, she 357 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: is in a living pace, she is gone busy, you know, 358 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: and I just don't know. Well, I think again, it 359 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: comes to a time where you just have to what 360 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: Amy has told us is you have to almost accept 361 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: them for who they are at this point, you know, 362 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: because they haven't done therapy before, or it'd be hard 363 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: to start at this point. Yeah, and I think I've 364 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: made peace with I've definitely made peace with my dad 365 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: my mom. I've recently come to piece that, you know, 366 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: we might just might not be of what I've wanted 367 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: for either one of our relationships. But I can now go, Okay, 368 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: I can choose to have a good relationship here. I 369 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: just have to just have no expectations on X, Y 370 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: and Z, and I can live with that. So I 371 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: read this was really great quote, and I was hoping 372 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: I could find it for you. But essentially for younger listeners, 373 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: I will just say I do regret not doing something 374 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: with my parents at a younger age because I had 375 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: spent so many years resenting like my father for example, 376 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: or you know, so I think that then contributed to 377 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: potential relationships in my belief in myself from the lack 378 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: of what I thought he believed in me. Oh sure, yeah, 379 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: so yeah this quote I read, I just felt like it. 380 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: Maybe this will go somewhere with both of you. It 381 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: says she accepts people as they are, but places them 382 00:17:44,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: where they belong. Topic number two. Shana Kler is Travis 383 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Barker's ex wife, and she's accusing Travis and Courtney of 384 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: parenting alienation. So Shana is sharing new details about her 385 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: co parenting relationship with Travis Barker. We just start with 386 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: saying co parenting is so challenging, so empathy there for 387 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: just the table. In a preview clip of Wednesday's upcoming 388 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: episode of The Dumb Blonde Podcast obtained by The New 389 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: York Post, Page Mochler forty eight, talked with host Bunny 390 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: XO about her relationship with ex husband Barker, alleging that 391 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: he and his wife, Courtney Kardashian have been trying to 392 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: one up her as a parent. So Mochler shares her 393 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: son Landon and daughter Alabama twenty and eighteen with Travis. 394 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: She's also a mom to daughter a Tiana twenty four, 395 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: whom she shares with her ex Oscar de Lahoya. I 396 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: didn't know that. I didn't either until today. I'm savvy 397 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: and knew whom Travis helped raise. So Mochler called the 398 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: Kardashians disgusting, saying I removed myself so that they couldn't 399 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: bond over my children hating me. Go do what you 400 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: need to do, and when you're ready, I'll be her, 401 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: loving you unconditionally. The mom of two went on, and 402 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: I will be here as your mother and I will wait. 403 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: And that's what I did. When Travis got with Courtney, 404 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: there was some parental alienation going on there where Travis, 405 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: even when we weren't together, always wanted to be the 406 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: super dad, she said of her ex. I'm the best parent, 407 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm the this and I'm that, and I'm like, bro, 408 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 2: you win like you're the winner here. You have all 409 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: the money, you have all of this, You're the winner. 410 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: She says. 411 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of glitter and fame, 412 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: and they watched them on TV, and now their dad 413 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: is dating one and they're going to be on the show. 414 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: She said of her kids, and I think they got 415 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: caught up in that which young kids would do. They're 416 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: buying them Prada, they're buying them gifts, and they're going 417 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: to these events, and they're meeting Kanye and you know, 418 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: all the big stuff. She says, I can't give them that. 419 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: I don't have that, I don't have access to that. 420 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: I don't have the money to do that. I can't 421 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: buy you guys Prada every other week and stuff I 422 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: can't I don't and I can't do it. My house 423 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: isn't a mansion like Travis. I don't have a movie theater. 424 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't have golf carts for you kids to drive. 425 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: She added, We're up for Travis did not obviously respond. 426 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: You know, Travis and Courtney don't pay attention to what 427 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Shane is doing. A friend of the couple tells people, 428 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: which we know who the friends of people are. They're 429 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: so happy in life right now. So I mean, what 430 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: do you think about Shane speaking out about Travis and 431 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Courtney and that in that and do you think because 432 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: one of the questions too is I do think there's 433 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: a feeling competition between co parenting and I think, you know, 434 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: it would be hard if the roles were reverse, and like, 435 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: you know, I couldn't give my kids maybe what the 436 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: other parents giving them. I could look at that and 437 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: go that would be tough because they probably would want 438 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: to go to the bigger house and to the ones 439 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: that have more toys or this or that or the other, 440 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: or more fame, and so as the co parent, I 441 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: would feel I would struggle. I woul probably would. I'm 442 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: just being honest. I think I would struggle with that 443 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: because I can't give them that. 444 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 4: Now. 445 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: On the flip side that I was like, but I 446 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: can give them love and I give them a home, 447 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: like you know whatever. But I think kids see the 448 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: that they don't see that until they're older. 449 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Weren't they like teenagers, right, So that's even more shane. 450 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: It's just even more like oh I get to meet 451 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: so and so, Oh I get to go here, we 452 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: get the movie theater. That's like even more heightened at 453 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: that age. And I think that personally, I think what 454 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: she's done and said, I mean besides talking out, you know, 455 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: in public or whatever, but like it's pretty smart, like 456 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, saying to your kids, I can't give that, 457 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: but I'm here and I'm going to be your parent, 458 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna they're going to see that in the end. 459 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: They're going to understand that as they grow up. But 460 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: that can't be easy. I mean I would struggle with 461 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: it too. But all she can do is be honest. 462 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: She can't just go broke and try to provide the 463 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: same you know. 464 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: And you know, listen again with the co parenting thing, 465 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: it's like, you don't want to ever alienate. You always 466 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: want to talk good about the other parents. So I 467 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: hope that that's at least there. But I can I 468 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 2: can understand her feelings of maybe that competition vibe. I 469 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: guess I don't know why she said it. I know 470 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: she was like, I think that is maybe my hang 471 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: up a little, which is probably people listening to me 472 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: on here, like why did you you know, Like I'm 473 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: talking about my kids too and things that they go through. 474 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: But I it feels I shouldn't say it. It just 475 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: feels a little like an insecurity, like it's her, like 476 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: she's got to have a voice to it. And I 477 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: can understand. I can't understand actually or even imagine. You 478 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: think she's more jealous of it being Courtney Kardashian. I 479 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: think if it wasn't Courtney, and if it was just 480 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: like a girl next door, she wouldn't care. I think 481 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: it's wildly honest, and I love that. I just wonder 482 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: if it is strategic somehow in which way, because I don't. 483 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: I don't think it's strategic. I think she's just hurt 484 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: and it's hard. But being Courtney, then that to me 485 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: is like a therapy visit or a diary visit, unless 486 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: of a. 487 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: Tell Bunny, And that's where this came from. 488 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying that I'm talking about it. 489 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: On a podcast, like everything comes. 490 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: We don't know about that, Like every time we talk 491 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: about something in here, we get talking and start talking 492 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: about something that's hard or hurtful or whatever, and then 493 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: it gets picked up and it seems like she's doing 494 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: it for And that's why I said earlier, besides her 495 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: talking about it in public, it feels to me like 496 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: it's just hard and you're having to compete with a 497 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: freaking Kardashian and teenage kids like but maybe maybe she 498 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: did just say it out there to I don't know, 499 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: but no. 500 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: No, I just wonder, like, what is the reason for saint, 501 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, like of course she feels that where it 502 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: came from, so that would be tough, though I can't 503 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: even freaking imagine. I mean, there's literally no one bigger 504 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: right name, someone bigger name, bigger celebrity family, I mean 505 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: the Royals, but. 506 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: Even then, but even then take her out of it. 507 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: Like I can think of someone that we know very 508 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: specifically who was giving their teenager prades, shoes and all 509 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: the things, all the time. 510 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: Thinking and thinking and it's not me, So oh. 511 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, don't know the ex wife, but she probably couldn't, 512 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: you know. And so it's like, but did that mean anything? 513 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: That's probably she's probably going to Daddy for the black 514 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: card to make sure that she go, you know what 515 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: I mean, But like she's with her mama, but she 516 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: also knows that, you know. So I don't think it 517 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: has to be who they are necessarily, but like when 518 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: you're you're a teenager and you're getting all those things, 519 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: like of course, like can you blame them? 520 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, no matter what, 521 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: as long as you love your kids, give them a 522 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: beautiful home, it's not going to matter the size of 523 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: the house, how big it is, how many toys you had, 524 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: as they want to love in that house, and I 525 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: don't think the kids see that until later in life. 526 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: That's but as long as you're consistent, you're loving, you 527 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: show them. My kids will never know the difference between 528 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: my house and their dad's house because there's love in 529 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: both houses. And it's not a competition. I'm in the 530 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: long grain for parenting. Yeah, I am in it for 531 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: like the thirty year old conversation I get to have 532 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: with love or she's like two hundred nights a year, 533 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: how did you do that? Yeah, you know, and well, truthfully, 534 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: like just like for them to I don't ever say 535 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: I do this by myself, and Dada is on the 536 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, like he has to do what he has 537 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: to do, so I can do what I can do 538 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, but there will be inevitably a day 539 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: where they go, oh wow, you know or something, and 540 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: maybe it's not a talk, it's just it's. 541 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: All in conversations around I'm like, I'm not doing this 542 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: all by myself. Get your butts in here and help me. 543 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but it's just Yeah, I think you parent 544 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: for the long game, and I think it's about making 545 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: good people. 546 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 547 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: Topic number three Lindsay Lohan and Tina Favor You unite 548 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: twenty years later for Mean Girls, the musical premiere Love It. 549 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: First of all, I was gonna say, I love Lindsa 550 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Lowhans back, I do. I loved your Christmas for me 551 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: last year. I just love the whole thing Mean Girls. 552 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: Do you let's just talk about that? Did you? You 553 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: guys obviously look love mean Girls? 554 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 555 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing is so long I was. 556 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: I know. 557 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: I was shocked to hear that Richard Goddams wasn't even 558 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: asked about coming back for the commercial that they had. Yes, 559 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't asked, probably because they couldn't afford her. But 560 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: either way, do you guys, speaking of mean girls, do 561 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: you guys have any mean girls that you remember from 562 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: high school? 563 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: Plenty? 564 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: I have one. She has two first names, Ashley Scott. No, 565 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: she wishes I won't give her any energy, but she 566 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: knows who she is really mean. I also wore a 567 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: back brace. Oh that's right, I wish I was making 568 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: that up. 569 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: Cramer puts her head down. 570 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, I mean listen is there was 571 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: there plenty for people to purge on and if they 572 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: wanted to or binge on with my back brace probably 573 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: no boobs overplucked my eyebrows, But really I just felt. 574 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: Like that was too bad though, like to even to 575 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: like name those things and be like, oh, people had 576 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: everything to mess with, Like that's terrible. 577 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I look back and I'm like, wow, 578 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: bless sure, but doesn't Yeah it was ruthef, I mean 579 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: it was rough. Yeah, That's why I feel bad about 580 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: what I said about Shana. We have to check ourselves 581 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: even as forty two year olds. No, I think she's great. 582 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: I actually loved her and I watched her with the 583 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: Barker Show. You look at the me, Do you look 584 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: at her differently now than you did from when you 585 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: were in high school? Like if you were to look 586 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: at like, I had one mean girl. She wasn't very 587 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: nice and I don't even know why she was so 588 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: mean to me, But I don't Were you always hot? 589 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: No new, new, new, new, new new. It might have 590 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: blessed the senior year, but besides that, No, I mean 591 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: I didn't even get My boobs didn't come until I 592 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: was like nineteen, so I was a late blimmer. 593 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: You should still haven't come in So I waiting. 594 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: I saw on my yearbook the other day when we 595 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: were cleaning out the garage and Alan about fell over 596 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: when he saw one of my yearbook pictures. He's like, 597 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: that's you, and I was like, yeah, he's like, I 598 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: can't even I can't even say what he said because 599 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: that's how like, no, oh yeah, and he'll he took 600 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: a picture of it. Yeah. I you guys, she was ruthless. So, 601 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: but do you think of her any differently now? I 602 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: feel like Amy and I don't look at her now. 603 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh this is I mean, her words hurt 604 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: and she was mean, but m m so I ran 605 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: into her in college m hm, and everything stayed on 606 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: brand unless and listen, I have changed a thousand times 607 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: over since I was even twenty five twenty seven. I 608 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: just don't know. I don't I actually don't think about 609 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: her at all, which is great and that's wonderful, but 610 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: I just don't know. I have no interest. And even honestly, 611 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: I say hi to everyone, and I don't know that 612 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: I would say hi to her if I ran into her, 613 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: because I just don't think there's much to. 614 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about? Though? 615 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: As kids, we probably all at some point did something 616 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: that was mean to someone that might have stuck out. 617 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: In their heads of course, you know what I mean? 618 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Hm, Like, I mean, I can't think of an example, 619 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: but there has to have been something that I can't 620 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: think of that I said or did to someone that 621 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: they could be you on the couch, no, no going. 622 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: That person was mean to me. And so all that 623 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: to say, I think that there is grace for people 624 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: when they're younger. But then I think that there are 625 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: those people. You find them when you're forty and you're like, oh, 626 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: you haven't changed. 627 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: I hope she's changed. 628 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, grew up a little bit. 629 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I hope she has, because that's not any 630 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: way to live. Yeah, that's miserable. We all have the 631 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: right to change, That's correct. Ki Kioko shares a relatable 632 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: parenting woman on a nine month old daughter. I can't 633 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: are nine months old. Matilda's first flight, so first fight 634 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: over Thanksgiving she was I was so terrified, she told Kimmel. 635 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: So I thought, what do we do? We have to 636 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: bring her saw machine on the Plane's the only thing 637 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: she can go tous sleep too. 638 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: Oh. 639 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: I love being a first time parent. I used to 640 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: have the phone in Juli's ear when I was rocking 641 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: around the plane. With like this this sleep machine to 642 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: like go to sleep, or oh my god, this is funny. 643 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: The star continued. She's so she's crying. It was hard. 644 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: She finally fell asleep, and she's on U. She's on Tom, 645 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: her husband, or I think they got under their engagement. 646 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: The sound machine is on and we're finally like, ah sy. 647 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: The steward's come over and he's like, hey, one of 648 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: our passengers would love it if you would turn this 649 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: sound machine off. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, 650 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: oh my god. The coca recalls and I can feel 651 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: Tom be like, hey, ask the passenger if she wants 652 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: to hold our screaming painted shots. When we turned it off, 653 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: and I mean the ice went into the veins. I 654 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: couldn't believe by the way she asked us to turn 655 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: it off. The base added, uh, she said, this is 656 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: so crazy, and what a terrible job to have to 657 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: be a flight tendant, have to deliver a message of 658 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: that type. We were so angry. So then we landed 659 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: and was the woman in right in front of us, 660 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: and so we get up and she goes, oh, so 661 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: your daughter does know how to smile. It was in 662 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: that moment where I understood why why women end up 663 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: on dateline. 664 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: That's funny. 665 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: I wonder if she had two first names. Wait, the 666 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: woman in front of her, what. 667 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: Your baby does know how to smile? 668 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. Guys do mean girls? Stay 669 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: mean girls? Is what I'm saying. I hope not, but 670 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: like there's people like. 671 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: That for sure. 672 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: I also I would have responded, like the husband, sure, 673 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: I'll turn it off if she wants to hold my 674 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: screaming baby. You would, actually one hundred percent yeah, in 675 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: a very nice way, I'd say, absolutely, you. 676 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: Can have my baby and get to sleep. 677 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, we'll forget that they were babies. That's 678 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: what my comeback is always when everybody has anything to 679 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: say about babies, I'm like, I think you forget you 680 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: were a baby, and you probably had a rough flight. 681 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: I always such anxiety for moms on planes, and not 682 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: because I care in the least. 683 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: They don't bother me. 684 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: It does not, But if I know they're having a 685 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: hard time, I know that feeling and that anxiety, and 686 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I just hate it for them. 687 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: It's not fair. Anxiety. 688 00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah sucks. 689 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's the thing. 690 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: Chanda's like, and I'm the person asking I was. 691 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: Just kidding, Yah, I just I Okay, how do I 692 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: say this? It drives me nuts when people do not 693 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: have the when someone's watching a show on the plane 694 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 2: without the headphones in, it literally drives me bonkers. And 695 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, my whole body language is like yeah, you know, 696 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: like it's so rude to me. I married him, and 697 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: I down not always, but for a minute, I can't 698 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: do that. Well, he's trying to connect, I know, but 699 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, can you just pause it? Like every ounder? 700 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: So Devil's advocate? What is I understand? And again hello baby? 701 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: Well I also would like, this is silly, but I'd 702 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: like to know the kind of sound machine because I 703 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: do feel like a plane sounds like a sound machine. 704 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: I was going to say also what I was going 705 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: to do, but I mean like, and you know, I 706 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: would go, I go like in the ear, like you 707 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: are a mock sound machine, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, 708 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: So I think there's I think there's variables to all 709 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: of this. And I'm like, and again I get it. 710 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: We all have babies, we get it. Like I'm not 711 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: like and I love Kaylee like the whole thing. Having 712 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: said that, again, how loud was it? What was the 713 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: actual sound? Because I will say this, I love sleeping 714 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: with the sound machine on people that i've been, you know, 715 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: when we're when we're on tour. You let's just say 716 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: one of y'all do not like the sound machine. If 717 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: they watch the answer stories, they know it's me. It 718 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: sounds like we're in a tornado. So I need that 719 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: to sleep. Yeah, but some people like silence. So if 720 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: it's a noise that's driving someone crazy, baby or not, 721 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like I don't mean to be like blunt 722 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: with it, but I just kind of the rule to 723 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: not have the sound if it's being distracting to another person. 724 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: I understand the mask. 725 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: I don't like comment with a baby would be more distracting. 726 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: So if it now, if the baby's already asleep, you 727 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: could probably turn the noise maker. 728 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: Up, make it lower, you know what I mean, Like, 729 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: maybe it a little lower, put it closer to the 730 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: ear and away the men kind of you know. But yeah, 731 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's mostly it's just the comment. For me, 732 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: it's the comment afterwards, I because it's the off two 733 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: like that just kind of tells you where what you know, whatever. 734 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: I will also say this. I'm not defending, said passenger. 735 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: There have been flights that I have taken where I 736 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: have been in a very tumultuous personal on my way 737 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: to someplace like to grieve, or to death, or to 738 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: hospice or to like, you don't know, and you're just like, 739 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: I wonder if that woman feels like she wishes she 740 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: didn't say that, you know, Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. 741 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: I think we all say things that we don't mean sometimes, 742 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 2: and maybe she was going through something. I truly think 743 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: when someone says something mean, they've got something they're going through. Yeah. 744 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: So, oh, I had a great quote for this the 745 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: other day too. 746 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: Can you dig it. 747 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: Out of there? 748 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: It's just people's responses aren't about you, it's about them. 749 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: Yeah they ah? So, I mean that's our hot topics. 750 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: I feel informed. 751 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew none of this. 752 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: None. It's like a liturely zero. I didn't even know 753 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: that Shana married Oscar Oscar Leli, I know Oscar de 754 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: la Hoya on that stuff, I don't know anything. Well, 755 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: So on that note, is there any other hot topics 756 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: that we have? I always feel like you're teeing us 757 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: up for something when you literally got nothing no, I 758 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: would say, I am struggling, like with parenting my son 759 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: right now. So that's just my vulnerability moment where I'm like, 760 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: I want to he's such a leader. I just want 761 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: to be what he needs and I can't find the 762 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 2: sweet spot for what that is. He's a very alpha 763 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: male out of the gate. He has been. I he 764 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: just is, and so it's a yeah, it's in them, 765 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: it's it's incredible. When he was four his Character Award 766 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: was for Godly Justice, and when he was five his 767 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: Character Award was for passionate Heart. 768 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 769 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: So those are big things for people to see in him. Sure, 770 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: but stewarding that is really tricky. Yeah. Well, girls, I 771 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: love you and uh, channel's judging me again. I am 772 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: not judging you, basically, I try not to do. It's 773 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: just because it's it's it's a childhood thing for me. 774 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: Sure that the belt the thing, it's it's it's in 775 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: that I don't have a belt, which is you know, 776 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: it's like it's but we all have very different parenting styles. 777 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: What she's trying to say is I know that Catherine 778 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: has spanked her kids before, and I judge her for that. 779 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't I am no I and Jason 780 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: Legend couldn't. 781 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: Different of those words out of her mouth, but I 782 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: knew her brain. 783 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: But how I speak sometimes to my it's not right either. 784 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: So it doesn't make it any it's just it's all 785 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: the it's just how we like I have reacted in 786 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: awful ways that I have to take back. It's just 787 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: there's something about the physicality piece for me that is 788 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: is a very deep thing for me in childhood. Well, 789 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: it's always for me. It's not out of anger. I 790 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: can't do anything out of anger. That's my promise to myself. Yeah, 791 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: that's what's because that's when it's like, yeah, like I, 792 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: so did you did you put it? Like all like 793 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: what did you do? I'm gonna get banned. We're just 794 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: gonna all right, well I judged b