WEBVTT - Slaves w/ Dann Florek 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.000 Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.800 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:07.680 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:08.840 These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:22.119 These are our stories done done. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.680 Hello, Hello, Hello, It's me Kara Klank and I'm Liza Trigger. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.520 And this is That's Messed Up an SCVU podcast. And 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.839 this is a big one. It's our tenth episode. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.280 Yeah, you know what's up. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.479 We basically are gonna recap an episode of that Law 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.080 and Order SVU, then we're gonna do a deep dive 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.680 into the true crime that was based on and then 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.199 we're going to have an interview. And today's interview is, honestly, 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.080 it's a barn Burner. So I think we should keep 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:53.960 this intro short. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.480 What does barn burner mean? I only know it from 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:57.640 Big Business Huge. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.880 Oh my god, it's just like it's gonna be. I 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.840 think it's gonna rock you guys world. So, I mean, 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.039 you've probably already seen our Instagram and know who it is, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.319 but we're gonna make you eight. We just wanted to 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:10.680 say a couple of things. What do we want to 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:11.760 talk about Lisa. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:16.480 Well, I have a disclaimer in this episode, I do 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.720 say fucking a lot, and it's because it's the fucking 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.759 worst crime I've ever probably researched, and so I get 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.240 you know, I don't have a great vocabulary, So that's 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.080 where I know I say fucking. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.720 I disagree. I think you have a great votecab. But 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.360 I don't know if you're reverse to that F word. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.000 I don't know why you're listening to this podcast. But 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.120 just keep in mind that Lisa, Lisa, Well I just 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.240 said Lisa. Just keep in mind that Lisa will be 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:42.440 saying that word quite a bit. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.919 Did I tell you that one time I was performing 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.600 and what's the blushi that's alive? 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:47.200 Jim? 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:53.320 He brought me up on stage as Leslie. You are 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:57.240 so not a Leslie. No, no, no, not at all. But 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.520 I will always remember that. And we also need to 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.600 give a a reminder that Sister Peg today is very 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.320 very important. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:04.920 You're going to listen to this crime. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.280 It's very heinous, very fucked up, and this man is 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.799 actually up for parole in March because of COVID and 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.960 early release, so we have all the information right to 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.760 the parole boards. So just keep that in mind as 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.160 you're listening that like this man might have a chance 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.520 to be let out. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.760 Yeah, and stick around to get our info about how 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:22.960 to help us out with that. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:24.680 And I know we need to keep this fast, but 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:25.960 I do have to say I did post on my 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.359 Instagram this week that I did see a coyote on 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.480 my walk this week or a fox, I'm not sure, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:32.680 but it was very dangerous. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.720 Also could have been a large dog or cat. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.600 No one is really positive, No one is positive, but 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.120 it was The story was harrowing. Lisa starts running like 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.640 a serial killer is chasing her. It was it looked 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.560 like the opening of an SVU. It literally looked like, Hey, guys, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.960 what's going on? What's that up ahead? Character starts running, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.279 phone drops cut till Livia Benson like standing over the body. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.400 And honestly, anyone that didn't reach out to me not 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.440 my friend anymore? How dare you watch that and not 0:02:59.480 --> 0:02:59.960 text me? 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:00.239 Wait? 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.480 I had to fast forward the stories to find out 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:02.880 what happened. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.040 I was just like, I can't watch this in real time, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.240 like it was stressing me out. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.280 Anyway, speaking of stress, we also just want to give 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.160 a trigger warning at the top of this episode. This 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.600 is a this crime is truly a very very brutal 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.799 and yeah, just if anyone you know, just to keep 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.200 in mind. Obviously we always talk about upsetting stuff on 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.880 this podcast, but just a little extra trigger warning for 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:25.359 you today. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.720 And then it is Black History Month. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.840 Happy Black History Months everyone, and we wanted to just 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:36.960 give a couple of res of black conceived and starring shows. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.760 And media that we love. I mean, I am. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.040 Obsessed with two shows both on HBO, one called I 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.080 May Destroy You. Or if you live in the UK, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.160 I guess this is probably available to you a different 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.200 way because it is a British creator. It's called I 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.520 May Destroy You, one of my favorite things I watched 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.560 all last year. And then obviously Insecure I think is 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.840 like the modern Sex and the City. But honestly it's 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.080 it's a little I don't know, it's different and better. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:03:59.560 It's more relatable. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.920 I have watched to show that I'm like, this is 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.960 this is my friend Grip, Like I don't, I feel 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.640 very related to the characters. And there's a fellow comedian 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.600 who's fully nude and we see his ass and that 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:12.280 was thrilling. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.880 Yeah, shout out to Langston Hermann. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:15.640 Oh yeah, and. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.120 Reggie, I was singing Reggie, I forgot we see Langston's 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:18.560 Ass too. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:20.960 So many butts. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.479 And then I wanted to shout out two movies that 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.240 I haven't actually seen yet but are on my list 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.000 and I want to see asap. One is already available 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.400 on Netflix called Maul Rainey's Black Bottom. I've heard nothing 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.920 but amazing things about this movie. And another is written 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.320 by two of our friends, the comedians, the Lucas Brothers, 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.240 and it's called Judas and the Black Messiah, which I 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.400 believe is if it's not out, it's coming out in 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.479 the next week or so on HBO Max. And then, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.279 speaking of Netflix, if you don't follow the Strong Black 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.039 Lead account on Instagram, I would follow it. It's really 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.960 fun and they promote black shows and memes and it's 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.400 really fun. I really I've been following it for a 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.000 long time and I really enjoy it. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.200 Amazing And now I'll do my list. This is it's 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.479 very fun. I feel like I want a Glamour magazine. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.000 So my favorite Instagram account that I'm really obsessed with 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.280 right now is called Embracing Black Culture, and it's just memes, videos, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:15.560 funny things, just fun. I was reading about how like 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.000 black History mounch shouldn't just be about like trauma and 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.160 watching things about you know, enslaved people. You can have 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.839 a good time and watch bad boys and so embracing 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.080 black culture is great. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:28.920 Also, I love Pat McGrath. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.080 She's a makeup artist and she's probably one of the 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.680 best makeup artists to ever exist. And her makeup is 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.200 very expensive, but she's very cool and so you can 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.920 follow her and look at her cool looks. I do 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.880 have her lipsticks, no big deal pre pandemic of course. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.760 And then this wasn't on my list because Insecure was 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.800 on my list. But Langston Kerman has a podcast called 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.560 My Mama Told Me and it's about conspiracy theories. And 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.039 then I want to give a shout out to my 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.400 friend Larry Owens. He was in a Strange Loop that 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.600 was off Broadway when Life was Open and I saw 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:00.960 it and it was the best show ever because I 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.320 saw Hadestown that week too. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.120 I am very cultured and. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.640 Hadestown won seven Tony's and when I saw Strange Loop, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.719 I went Hadestown, who like it meant nothing to me anymore. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.480 And you obviously can't go see it, but you can 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.200 get the soundtrack on you know and listen to. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.200 The music, and you can follow Larry on Instagram and 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.279 I'm sure when the world comes back he'll be doing 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:24.760 something awesome with the show. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.520 And Michael R. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.280 Jackson, who wrote Strange Loop, won the Pulitzer, So it's 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.480 a Pulitzer winning musical and it's so fucking good. 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:40.440 Awesome, And now let's get on with the show, all right, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:46.479 let's get into Slaves, episode twenty two of season one. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.200 This is the season finale of the first season. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.000 Yeah, I'm excited to be in season one, but also horrified. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.440 Like a lot of episodes, I feel like I keep 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.559 saying this and I will continue to say this throughout 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.360 the podcast, but this one is haunted. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.320 Me for Yeah, this one is wild. So lets everybody 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.520 strap on. I mean, I don't we don't need to 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.839 say trigger warning. You should know that this whole podcast 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.120 is a trigger warning. There's like a ton of horrible 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.600 shit in this episode, but we're going to try to 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:12.840 make it light and fun for you. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.920 And just over re knows. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.600 Benson has shoulder length hair with Rachel's style layers. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.040 Yes, and it's dark like it's probably the closest to 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.720 her natural hair color. Like it's very dark, and it's 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.920 like before she started kind of doing like the tanning 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:28.080 that she does. I mean she has a little bit 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.440 of a bronzer on now all the time. Right, she's 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.600 very pale, like light pale at the beginning. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.400 I don't I actually don't remember. I okay, I'll yeah, yeah, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.160 just agree Lisa. So she's pale. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:43.280 Yes, okay, So everybody this when you when you start 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.880 this episode. This is the episode where they all get 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.960 a psych evaluation and they're pissed. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:48.960 Yeah, there are starts. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.760 Dare you say, find out if we're competent and able 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:53.320 to work? 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.160 Yeah, but how dare you care about our mental health? 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.040 Like, so that's where this episode is twenty one years ago. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.560 Definitely not treating mental health the same as they probably would. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:07.920 Yes, the psychologist is Broadway legend Broadway star Audra McDonald. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.760 Yes, a legend. She is a psychologist that is evaluating 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.040 all them. So that's a runner throughout the show that 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.960 we'll keep checking in on. This is pre iced Tea, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.920 So it's Benson, Stabler, Munch, and Detective moniqu Jeffreys played 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.360 by Michelle Hurt. So she was in the whole first season. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.880 So basically the cold open. A fruit vendor comes into 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.920 the squad room. He's a Romanian fruit vender, and a 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.360 Romanian woman has like begged him for help and says, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.120 I'm trapped in a situation I cannot escape from and 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.120 hands her hands him a piece of paper with the 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.160 name Constanta Kodrescue written on it, and he and says 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.040 to the fruit vendor, tell her she was right, I 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.559 need help, okay, and then he goes, this happened three 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.400 days ago, so it took him a minute to get 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:50.920 to the copy. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:52.240 His wife made. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.800 Its, As so many things happen in life, the wife 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:55.800 makes the man do it. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.040 I just can you even imagine a woman comes to 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.760 you to store crying desperate for help, one name on 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.640 a page and your mother tongue and you were like, 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:04.680 I'll forget about it. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.160 Yeah, she's probably pranking me, Like I just can't this 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.480 am I on put cannon camera, like come on. So 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.920 the cops go to see this woman Constanta could Rescue. 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.080 She completely denies knowing this woman. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.960 At first she's then she's like she's my niece, but 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.839 we're not close. And then she says her name is 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.960 Elena could Rescue. She hasn't seen her in three years. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.920 She came to New York on a student visa. Now 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.960 they're calling it NYU. I realize kind of at the 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.079 beginning that they're probably allowed to refer to NYU if 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.960 it's just someone coming to the city to go to 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.640 NYU or like, oh, I'm a I'm an NYU grad, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.880 Like they can say that they can't have like rapes 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.160 and murders take place there. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.600 That's why they happen at Hudson University. That's amazing, amazing 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:46.280 little tidbit. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.440 Yeah, I think that's what I think we'll have to 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.880 ask like a writer or producer once we get one 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.560 of them on this On this pod, Benson gives constant 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.400 to her business card, like if you come up, if 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.840 you think of anything else, call me, And we find 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.440 out that she never showed up. This girl never showed up. 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.040 Elena never showed up to NYU at all. So meanwhile, 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.080 Craigan is getting grilled by Yes, Broadway Legend, Dodger McDonald 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.440 literally in my notes also so Broadway Legend and caps. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.800 Craigan gets a little bit hyped about his alcoholism. He's like, yes, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.120 I got the urge to drink. And then she goes 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.560 do you think you will? And he goes ask me tomorrow. Yeah, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.280 I mean that's one day at a time. That's the 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.160 whole thing with alcoholism with aa Yeah, that's constitution a 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.080 man who has a problem with alcohol and works looking 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.000 at the most heinous crimes day in and day out. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.520 Benson and Stabler are questioning this like wacky balloon animal 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.840 clown who's got like a deep New York accent and 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.320 who will not stop to talk to the cops, Like, well. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.080 That's a classic. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.640 But it's okay, you're carrying lumber, you're washing a dish, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:49.319 but to make bloon animals NonStop? Yeah, talking about an 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:55.120 endangered woman is that's that's it's a nice standard. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.720 For season one. And he's like yeah, scenes are like 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.200 he's so New York. He has seen Elena. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.280 He says she's a nanny, but he also said that 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.360 she seemed like totally fine. Meanwhile, the cops get a 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.840 call that a body's been found off the Henry Hudson. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.520 Parkway, the West Side Highway. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.520 Shout out to my old highway, and the body has 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.280 Benson's card in their pocket. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.760 It was rolled in a rug and thrown out of 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:18.160 the car. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.439 I mean Henry Hudson's like a very busy highway. I 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:21.800 don't know how you just like stop and throw a 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.320 body off the side. But okay, maybe in the middle 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.719 of the night. Is it always possible? It always has 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.720 people on it. I've taken I've been taking cabs like 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.319 bombed home on that highway for sure. But the body 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.680 is Constanta, the person they have literally interviewed earlier that day. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.040 That's a pretty quick turnaround. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.720 I also have an issue with this scene. They like 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.840 try they pry her jaw open. Well, yeah, that's the 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:50.120 next scene. Oh the folly artist gotta was really working hard. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.520 They they I don't understand why we needed to hear 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.800 as the jaw gets creaked open. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.360 Yeah, So Benson is Stabler go to the medical examiner, which, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.640 by the way, this is pre Tamratuni and the medical 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:06.080 examiner is Lance Reddick, famous actor from Corporate on Comedy 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.679 Central from Bosh Love him, you love Bosh, I love 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.280 I have Ah my god, I'm not I'm doing it. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.680 That's because everyone that watches Bosh is my parents' age. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.880 But like it is. I like it because it's in 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.120 LA and I get to like. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.400 See a lot of LA. I like the Twists. It's 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:23.560 fun watch the l word. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:25.600 Hey, yeah I should. I absolutely should. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:26.960 My best friend's been telling me to watch that forever. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.040 Happy birthday to hers today. Anyway, Warner doesn't join until 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.199 season two. So we've got a cute, skinny young Lance 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.920 Reddick and he basically is telling her something has stopped 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.120 her heart. Only an injection would make that possible. But 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.960 he can't find the puncture somehow. Benson is like, what 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.040 about under the tongue? I don't know how she knows that. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.520 They never really explain it. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.240 She's a great detective. Hey, yeah, but what in a 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.720 medical examiner? No, to check under the tongue. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.080 That's why Maybe that's why gets brought in second season, 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.640 So because she rolls her eyes when it's there. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.520 Yeah, she's like, yeah, I could have told you that. Yeah. Like, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.680 so there is a puncture woe under the tongue. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.680 So this is where the jaw gets and so yeah, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.240 when he prize opened the jaw, Liza did not appreciate 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.319 the folly work happening there. It's just this creaky, horrific 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.680 noise that is making me like twitch right now. Yeah, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.120 we did not need an exactly an exaggerated jaw open noise. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.440 Well it stuck with you, didn't it. It did, so 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.040 maybe the folly artist is going for an Emmy. So 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.800 we find out that like Elena's father was killed also 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.600 back in Romania. Munch gives us a little all Roads 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.920 lead to Romania joke. Elena turns out an American businessman 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.520 in Bucharest who brought her over to the United States, 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.840 and Concanta and Elena fellow out over it like they 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.400 haven't spoken and all this time. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.320 And the thing is, I want everyone to be safe. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:50.720 I'm on the ant side. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:51.280 You don't. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.719 You don't trust an American business man anywhere. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.400 Who's bringing you over to the United States for free 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:57.199 out of charity? 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.760 No, no, no, no, we'll bring you to a free country 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.440 for are a favor or because they think you're a 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:03.480 cool girl. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:04.720 Now, you know. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.520 And you don't ever want to blame the victim. But 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.600 and it happens so often, But because people are desperate 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.080 and they want to be here. But do not trust 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.760 an American that's trying to do something nice for free. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.560 Yeah ever, yeah that's us. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:20.360 Put it on a T shirt. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.760 Do not trust an American trying to do something for 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.720 you for free. So we get a quick we get 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.880 a quick glimpse of Benson with the shrink. She admits 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.720 she's the child of rape, which we've heard earlier in 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:36.120 the season, and when the therapist asked her, what would 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.480 you be if you couldn't be like a sex crimes detective, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.800 she's like at a loss and honestly looks like she's 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:45.320 about to cry because there's like nothing else she could do, honestly, comedy. Yeah, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.000 I stay on a woman who knows her career path. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.720 I think it's fine. I don't know why that's such 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.800 a huge because. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.040 They want women to have kids, you know, that's class 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:54.720 Just like, why do you do this? 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.360 What would you have been a kindergarten teacher? Yeah? 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.520 Like what it's weird, So it makes it okay. So 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.880 we're back at the lab. Constanto is found in a 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.200 five thousand dollars rug. So that's like a little bit 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.600 of a red flag right there. That's like, you know, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.880 no one's wrapping up victims in a five k Really, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.600 I don't know how much rugs cost. Well, the rugs 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.440 in my house are four hundred dollars. I mean they're 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.240 not a lot, but that sounds like a lot to 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.240 make thousand dollars. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:16.960 No, but a rug. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.480 You're on it every day. It's supposed to last you 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.320 for years. You know, five thousand dollars. That's an expensive rug. 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:22.840 They find one hair in the rug. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.600 They go to Air Bucharest, not a real. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:29.880 Airline, and find Elena's flight from three years earlier when 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.920 she arrived, and the person that purchased it for her 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.040 was named Randolph Morow. Okay, they go to his They 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.480 go to the house of him. They find Elena. She 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.800 is acting like cool as a cucumber. Nothing's wrong. She's 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.880 there with a kid. I'm the nanny. I gotta make dinner. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.880 I don't know if she's cool as a cute ca Okay, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.920 there's an underlying of nervous. Yes. She's like, you're right, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.960 it must be ready. He's gonna come home. I have 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.200 to clean. He doesn't like people here. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.480 Yeah, lead, well, but you're also you know what happens 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.920 in this episode when you're rewatching. I'm just saying like 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.000 she okay, she's not cool on the cool of the 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.000 cucumber scale. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.800 She's like, listen, he's coming home at six. You can 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.440 talk to him too. We're fine. I need to, you know, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.520 come cook dinners. Version of a Romanian nanny being cool. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.040 That's her your impression, Listen. She just was like, I 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:20.400 don't know what you're talking about. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.840 Everything's fine, like a little bit like that, but yes, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.440 you do, you do sense, like you sense that she's 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:26.760 really nervous and wants them to get out of the 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.600 house because she's gonna get in trouble if like they 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.720 come home and dinner, yeah, and dinner's not ready. So 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.280 Audrey McDonald brings up to the cops like, oh, she 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.480 could have Stockholm syndrome, which we all know about Stockholm syndrome, 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:37.880 and I get. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:38.840 They explain it. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.760 Expositive, like they do a full exposition on the show 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.440 to explain what Stockholm syndrome is. But it's like four 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.520 people in Stockholm were taken into bank robbery, kidnapped and 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:52.160 like within six days they were like completely emotionally fused 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.880 to their captor and like refused to press charges and 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.200 testified it in their captor's defense. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.960 Like, you know, I didn't know it was called Stockholm 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.080 syndrome because of a stock in the place. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.720 Yeah, Stockholm, Sweden. Yeah wow, Yeah, so that's where that 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.320 came from. They talk about how the way you kind 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.639 of get someone to submit to you is like threats 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.880 of death and violence interspersed with random acts of kindness. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.560 So it's like you're you're dying for that person's like 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.680 kindness and affection because their violent side is. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.959 Stre there also become your lifeline. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.080 Yeah, Like they're the reason you have food ever, right, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:30.359 or you have anything. Yeah, so your like love to 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.600 them becomes an act of survival yeah, and not weakness. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:35.160 Right. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.920 So we see Munch's session with the shrink. He's making 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.720 jokes about blow up dolls. I mean, you know, Munch 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:47.040 is he's the least of the crew. Yeah, that's I 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:51.159 would say, that's true. Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:52.080 Over month, Munch. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.960