1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Business Wait inside from the reporters and 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: editors who bring you America's most trusted business magazine, plus 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: global business, finance and tech news. The Bloomberg Business Week 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Podcast with Carol Messer and Tim Stenebeck from Bloomberg Radio. 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Keep on. We are definitely keeping our eye on the 7 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: ball here at the US Open. I'm also keeping my 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: nose on whatever that is. French fries smell. 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 4: Interesting? Interesting? You went there? I brought Carol. I brought 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: Carol French fries yesterday. Something you have to know about 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: Carol Masser is she has never met a French fry 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: she didn't love. It's like her secret snack. 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: You can dip them in mayonnaise. That's not about that 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: so yummy. 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: So there were some pretty good fresh French fries yesterday 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: here at the US Open. Brought her some. Hey, we're 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 4: talking about food, because I love talking about food. You 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: know what's more expensive than it was last year? 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: Honey deuce? 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty three bucks each, up from twenty two dollars 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: last year. 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: What's up with that? 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 4: Melons inflation? 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so kind of a perfect segue to talk 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: about the Fed's reserve FED reserves preferred measure. I have 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: not had any honey juices, I promise not yet. The 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: Fed's preferred measure of underlying US inflation, which we got 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: earlier this morning. So this was a focal point heading 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: into the Labor Day holiday weekend. It rose at a 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: mile pace, and household spending picked up in July, reinforcing 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: policymakers plan to start cutting interest rates next month. It 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: was interesting we talked earlier right on Bloomberg Intelligence, how 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: this might have felt a little bit like a Goldilock's economy, 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: or more evidence of it. Molly Smith is Bloomberg News 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Economics editor, and she joins us here on site at 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: the US Open. So good to have you here with us. 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: So amazy to be here. 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: Our annual tradition. 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: I know, and it's a good one. It's a really 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: good one. We're gonna talk tennis in a moment. The report, 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: it feels like it's just all falling into place. How 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: do you see it? 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, this is obviously, of course, what 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: you would want to see if we are going to 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: talk about pyking, a soft landing of the economy. For 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 5: inflation to be moderating for consumers to keep spending, and 48 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 5: that's exactly what the recipe would be. Just some cautionary 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: note though, to keep in mind, is that you know 50 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 5: a lot of people were flagging about this report with 51 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: regards to consumer spending. Is that a lot of it 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: really reflected the rebound in auto sales after the cyber 53 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: attack in June, and that how disruptive that was for 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 5: the industry. Outside of that, it was a little bit 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: more mixed. And of course, looking at the income growth 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 5: measures and the saving rates dropping down not great, not great. 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: That doesn't pode well for consumer spending going forward. And 58 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: we also got the University of Michigan data later in 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 5: the morning looking at measures of consumer finances also feeling 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 5: very stretched there, which could also pose a risk to 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 5: spending going forward. 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: I know you're focused on the macro, but I got 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: to bring in this headline that we just heard from 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: Amy Morris just crossing the Bloomberg terminal, Goldman Sack set 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: to layoff over thirteen hundred workers. This is according to 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: The Wall Street Journal. They're planning to cut between three 67 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: to four percent of its workforce. Typically. The Journal's Lauren 68 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: Thomas right. So Goldman aims to trim between two percent 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: and seven percent of its workforce annually based on various 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: performance factors. When you see a headline like that, as 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: an economics editor, do your spidy senses start to tangle? 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: It all could be going on, I mean, especially because 73 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: the lay of the word of the land has really 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 5: been that layoffs are very low. So when you see 75 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 5: that this is happening at a company that we all 76 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 5: know about, of course you're like, what's going on here? 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 5: I mean, we do know that Goldman, So the other 78 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 5: several of the other banks have been laying off workers 79 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: recently in different batches. You know that they had got 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: they had over hired a lot, you know, in the 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: past couple of years. So I think a lot of 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: people this seems to be looked at generally is more 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 5: a moderating of the workforce rather than a wholesale cutting 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: of it. I mean, of course I haven't read the 85 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 5: story yet, but that seems to be what a lot 86 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: of the vibe is by. 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: But more broadly, where we. 88 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: Have seen more of the struggle in hiring has been 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: in white collar professions. And this has been where you 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: would expect, right now to see more of the layoffs happening. 91 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: I find it interesting because we've had conversations with Geena 92 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: Martin Adams about bank earnings in general that that has 93 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: been a standout. So I feel like, you know, the 94 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: financial sector has performed, and yet you're still seeing some 95 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: trimming of the workforce. And as you said, it's not 96 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: a case that we've heard layoffs in general. We've heard 97 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: companies maybe not hiring as aggressively, but they haven't been 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: laying off workers. I also feel like you and I 99 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: keep talking to people who say we're getting now we 100 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: used to get one or two resumes for a job, 101 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: Now we're getting forty, like huge jumps. To me, it 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: says there's a shift and people coming out of college 103 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: having a tough time finding jobs. 104 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: It is definitely a tough job market to work in 105 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: right now. And it's so it pains me to say 106 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: that in a way because when you look at the numbers, 107 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: it really doesn't feel that way. Where you still have 108 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: a pace of hiring that's well over one hundred thousand 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 5: jobs a month, that the unemployment rate, yes has been 110 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 5: going up, but still is historically low, that wage gains 111 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: are still positive it's hard to square that with this 112 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: is still a tough job market. But I think the 113 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: way to reconcile it is that what I tell my 114 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 5: friends is that it's not a job market where I 115 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: would quit my job voluntarily if I didn't have something 116 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: else lined up, you know, just experiencing what it's like, 117 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: even if you just wanted to like casually spit out 118 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 5: your resume and see what other options are out there. 119 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 5: The amount of ghosting that is still happening, and how 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: many weeks, months can go by without hearing something. I mean, 121 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: when we talk to job seekers, this is regularly bring 122 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: back that it's just been a brutal environment out there. 123 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Statistics don't show that at all. 124 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 5: And that's what's very frustrating too, that, like I think 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 5: what I've really learned a lot from my job in 126 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: like squaring the economic statistics with the real world. When 127 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: I post about some of these things on LinkedIn and 128 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: other social media and you see the comments, and I 129 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 5: don't feel like I'm being attacked, but I hear like 130 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 5: these people are almost like yelling, like the numbers are lying. 131 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: This is not the real lived experience, Like this is 132 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 5: a horrible economy, Like people are feeling like so stretched 133 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 5: thin in every which way. And yeah, I can imagine 134 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 5: if you are somebody who feels that way and you 135 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 5: hear people like us saying, you know, inflation's moderating, like 136 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 5: this is Goldilocks, everything's great. It doesn't feel that way. 137 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: Also, serious political implications ahead of the presidential election. We'll 138 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: hear the candidates talking even more I think in the 139 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: coming weeks about the economy. Before we let you go, 140 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: we're talking tennis. Molly, absolutely, while we're here, you follow 141 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: this like nobody else. What's been on your radar this year? 142 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: Who should we be watching? What's shocked you? 143 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: You're excited about? 144 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 5: Oh? I mean last night? Of course, the upset with 145 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: Alcaraz was just I challenge anybody who had that on 146 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 5: their Bengo card. 147 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: Please tell me. 148 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: I certainly did not see. 149 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: That coming, especially from I'll say his name again if 150 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 5: you guys hadn't heard it before, Bodic van Essential from 151 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: the Netherlands. This guy's had a horrible year, was contemplating 152 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 5: retiring going into this tournament, and man, I hope this 153 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: helps him turn it around. You know, he was a 154 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: top almost twenty player a couple of years ago, so 155 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: what a win for him, even if his face doesn't 156 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 5: show it. He's one of those guys who doesn't really 157 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: give you a whole lot to work with. But that 158 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 5: was fascinating last night. A lot of great Americans in 159 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 5: action today. I'm gonna try to see Shelton and Tiafo 160 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 5: after this. 161 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 4: Who do you think he's gonna win that match? 162 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 5: Oh? 163 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 6: Man? 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I think Ben has a bit more firepower 165 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: coming into it. But Tiafo has really turned his season 166 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 5: around when he got a new coach in the middle 167 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: of the year, and just love to see that. You know, 168 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: He's really had a tough time since he was in 169 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 5: the semis here a couple of years ago and just 170 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: has had a bit of a lack luster result since then. 171 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: That's when he lost to Alcarez. 172 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean that was an incredible match and may 173 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: broke into the top ten then and just has fallen 174 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 5: a bit by the wayside since then. But he had 175 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: a great run up to this tournament, reaching the finals 176 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 5: in Cincinnati. This could be really huge for him, so, 177 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: I I mean, look, you have you love to see 178 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: any American win though. 179 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: Right on the women's side of thing, is it all 180 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: about Cocoa, I. 181 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: Would say, it's a you know, it's really Sablanca's tournament 182 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 5: to lose, and she's gonna be playing later tonight. I think, 183 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 5: you know, she's really the big favorite right now. Would 184 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: not be surprising to see the two of them make 185 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: another deep run like they did last year. Uh yeah, 186 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 5: I mean I hate to see Rebaka to pull out again. 187 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 5: This is the number four player in the world and 188 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: who's really just struggled with her health so much. I mean, 189 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 5: this is like what the at least eighth tournament she's 190 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 5: pulled out of this year because of some kind of 191 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: injury or illness, and I just hope that whatever's going 192 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: on with her gets better because she when she is playing, 193 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: she is unstoppable. So it's just it's really hard to see. 194 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: I am just thirty seconds. Is there anybody out there 195 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: that you see is possibly like another Serena or something. 196 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: I hate to say that because I feel like there 197 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: are athletes like that that are you know, once in 198 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: a generation or something, But I don't know. 199 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so much pressure. 200 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 5: I mean, of course, like Cooco would be like the 201 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 5: obvious candidate to say that right now, just because of 202 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: her age, and what she's already accomplished. But you know, 203 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: I love her attitude about it. I think, you know, 204 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 5: she still recognizes there's so much improvement to be done 205 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: and she's taking the steps. And I love her coach too. 206 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: So Brad Gilbert, do you hear me? 207 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: Big fan? 208 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: All right? 209 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: Good stuff? As always, she's got some fun things on 210 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: social media. We're gonna talk about that maybe with John 211 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: Wortheim a little bit later on. So good. This is 212 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: a tradition and annual tradition, and we always look forward 213 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: to Molly Heanks find hey you watching Molly Smith economics 214 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: thateer at Bloomberg News on site with us here at 215 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: the US Open. 216 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: Okay, from tennis to the NFL. You recall earlier this week, Carol. 217 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: NFL voters owners voted to allow private equity firms to 218 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: buy stakes in their franchises. It's a move expected to 219 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: attract billions in fresh capital while boosting team valuations that 220 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, had already been surging. 221 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, private equity is interested folks in another area 222 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: as well other stuff. In a Bloomberg Business Week story, 223 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Ira Boodway writes about how private equity has set 224 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: its sites on the thirty billion dollar youth sports industry, 225 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: which is like whoa here with more in a story. 226 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: It's also a personal story. Is Bloomberg News Business of 227 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Sports reporter Ira Budway. He's back at our Bloomberg Studio, 228 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: Interactive Broker Studio, back at Bloomberg headquarters. 229 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: Iira, good to have you with us this afternoon. Can 230 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: you start with the personal angle? You your personal connection 231 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: to this story? 232 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what you guys are 233 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 7: doing this weekend, but I will be watching my daughter 234 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 7: play soccer in a tournament. 235 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: And that's what I do. 236 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 7: With most of my weekends, watch one of my two 237 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 7: kids play baseball or soccer, one of the sports they play. 238 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 7: So this story kind of springs from my own experience. 239 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 7: I was up in Cooperstown this summer watching my twelve 240 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 7: year old some play baseball at one of these tournaments 241 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 7: that brings in thousands of twelve year olds every summer, 242 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 7: and the other tournament down the road, Cooperstown All Star 243 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 7: Village just so happens to have been bought recently by 244 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 7: David Blitzer and Josh Harris to private equity billionaires who 245 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 7: have formed a company with multiple leagues and tournaments and 246 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 7: camps that they call unrivaled sports, and they're part of 247 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 7: this big wave of new investment and consolidation in the industry. 248 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: Can I say that? When I first read your headline, 249 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, only because private equity and I think about 250 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: their ownership of veterinarians and vets. I think about healthcare, like, 251 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: we've got the stories out there, right of private equity 252 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: comes in and it doesn't always go so well. So 253 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: tell us about the impact. What are they doing and 254 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: are they doing this about you know, juicing returns for 255 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: investors or that's really not the case here? 256 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, that was kind of what I wanted 257 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 7: to know, you know, was this another sort of nursing 258 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 7: homes and real estate and all these things that private 259 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 7: equity has come in and arguably made things worse for consumers? 260 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 7: Is that what we're going to get here? And and 261 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 7: in youth sports there's a particular problem already of it 262 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 7: being expensive and exclusive and pressurized and not really about 263 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 7: sort of the fund and the social emotion, social and 264 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 7: emotional learning that you want to get out of it 265 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 7: for kids. So that was what I brought to it. 266 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 7: I wanted to kind of hear their case for what 267 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 7: they plan to do. In the case of Unrivaled, you know, 268 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 7: I think it calling it private equity is maybe a 269 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 7: little bit unfair because these are investments where they didn't 270 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 7: raise a fund and there's no promised exit or return, 271 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 7: and they plan to hold them, they say, for a 272 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 7: long time. So what they want to do at Unrivaled, 273 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 7: with their various assets is expand they base going to 274 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 7: bring in capital and talent and make them bigger and better. 275 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 7: And instead of maybe a program that serves four hundred kids, 276 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 7: they want to make it serve eight hundred kids. So 277 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 7: in the case of Cooperstown All Star Village, they bought 278 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 7: another sixty six acres next to their site in Onlyonta, 279 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 7: New York, and they're going to double it, you know, 280 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 7: over time. So that's what they say they're about in 281 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 7: this case. But they are also not the only ones 282 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 7: getting into the business and private equity, and some of 283 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 7: these are your traditional private equity firms that you know 284 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 7: need to seek an exit and maximize profit. 285 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: Hey, let's take a step back here and sort of 286 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: like help explain to us in the next minute that 287 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: we have or two minutes we have with you how 288 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: we got to this place with youth sports. I mean, 289 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: I thought youth sports a few generations ago were about 290 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 4: kicking the ball around, building team building. Maybe you know 291 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: a dad is one of the coaches on the team, 292 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: or a mom as a coach on one of the team. 293 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: When did money become such a big part of it. 294 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 7: It's been a few forces working together. I think part 295 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 7: of it is just social pressures have taken both the 296 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 7: unsupervised sport away. We just don't allow kids to do 297 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 7: that kind of thing anymore. And you know, two parents 298 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: working the dad volunteer coach is also increasingly untenable, and 299 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 7: so you've got in their place these travel teams that 300 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 7: are professionally coached, and then you have just this desire 301 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 7: to get kids scholarships or into elite schools, and so 302 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 7: sports have become this sort of less about what you're 303 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 7: doing right now and how you're enjoying it, and more 304 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 7: about how it helps you get to that brass ring 305 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 7: or that next step. And that means that parents are 306 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 7: willing to spend on coaching and on equipment and on 307 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 7: travel and everything else. And so that has made it 308 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 7: a rather than you know, recreation a business. 309 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: Hey, just real quickly, just got about thirty seconds. My 310 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: concern is that money, once again is going to make 311 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: it these kind of opportunities for those who can afford 312 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: it and then cut out those where sometimes someone who 313 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: is from a poorer background, to be quite blunt, had 314 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: an opportunity to rise up courtesy of sports just quickly. 315 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this is not a good way to 316 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 7: develop and identify talent, to use basically wealth as a 317 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 7: way to find the kids who get to play. So 318 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 7: just in terms of you know, competing, you really want 319 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 7: to expand access and not make it more exclusive. 320 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: Well it's a great read. There's so much fun detail 321 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: in there, and it's like one of those who knew 322 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: that this was going on, although it doesn't surprise me. 323 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: Hey, we're private equity. We'll find a way, Yes, our 324 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 4: a good way. 325 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: Business of Sports reporter at Bloomberg News. Check out his 326 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Business Week story at Bloomberg dot com and on 327 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Terminal. 328 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bloomberg Business Week podcast. Catch us 329 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: live weekday afternoons from two to five pm Eastern. Listen 330 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: on applecar Play and then brout Auto with a Bloomberg 331 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: Business app or watch US live on YouTube. 332 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: US Open has always been a place to see and 333 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: be seen in a big way if you just check 334 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: out some of those at the court side. And I 335 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: know when we go to watch matches or over the 336 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: past years, especially if you do a night match, a 337 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: really popular one, a big one, the cameras will move 338 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: around and all of a sudden you're seeing, you know, 339 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: a celeb. 340 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: There's always know where the celebs are sitting, don't they. 341 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know how many times they've come on 342 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: US zero. That's the way it rolls. It's okay, I'm 343 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: good with that. 344 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: With that, Hey, we actually know a little bit about 345 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: this because our own Bloomberg New senior reporter Jillian Tan, 346 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: who is a fan of tennis, plays tennis. She's back 347 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: here at the US Open. She wrote about what is 348 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: the hottest celebrity ticket out there right now? Jillian, good 349 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: to see you, welcome. 350 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me. 351 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So before we get to who's been here, you know, 352 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: which include Jessica Biel, Questlow, Alec Baldwin and Moore, how 353 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: do celebrities get connected with seats here? 354 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: So I think the whole thing, right, it's a whole 355 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: thing right now, everyone sort of you know, talks to 356 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: their own team, speaks to their agents. The agents put 357 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: an ask into the USTA and there are just so 358 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: many sponsors here. So if the USTA President box is full, 359 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: there's like mowatt is that how you pronounce it? Proet 360 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: It depends depends on if you or America Emira. You've 361 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: got Polo, Ralph Lauren, but doebal Tequila. Everyone's just scattered 362 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: around Arthur ash Stadium. So John Rahm, the live golfer, 363 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: his live golf team is sponsored by this tequila brown 364 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: so he rocked in on Monday Tuesday. Everyone just sort 365 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: of you know, calls, makes the ask and then shows 366 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: up when the sponsors can fit them in. 367 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: So they're not buying tickets, No, these. 368 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Are all free tickets. 369 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: Come on, so the tickets? Why aren't they paying? 370 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: What about us? Please? 371 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 6: Wait? 372 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: Has tennis always been so popular among celebrities? 373 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: So right now you know that the view is that 374 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: there's like a cultural ape sorry boutman voice challenges. The 375 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: movie starring Zendaya grossed ninety four million this year, so 376 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: that's you know, been huge for tennis. But during the pandemic, 377 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: there was just a huge boost and amateur players, not 378 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: only in the US but just globally, so that there's 379 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: just a lot of attention and on the sport luxury 380 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: brands have started to capitalize on it. You've seen Yanixenner 381 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: the world number one. He's, you know, an ambassador for Gucci. 382 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: You've got Alcoraz who unfortunately lost last night. He's an 383 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: ambassador of Louis Vuitton. So is Naomi Osaka. So a 384 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: lot of these folks are building their brands outside the 385 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: court and people are paying attention. 386 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 4: It seems like other sports like basketball have really in 387 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: the past attracted this court side celebrity. Yeah, is it 388 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: tennis a hoter ticket now? 389 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Arguably so, especially because there's only fourteen days here at 390 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Arthur ash right, So basketball we're looking to it. There's 391 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: forty one home games per team. That's so many that 392 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, celebrities can pop in nix and nets, give 393 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: jay Z high fives and his Empire state of Mind hit. 394 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: But no, now the basketball players are the ones that 395 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: are court side here. 396 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned jay Z, I mean didn't they Also 397 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: in terms of the USTA leaning on culture, in terms 398 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: of I think they've got a new theme song and 399 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: they tell us a little bit about that how they 400 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: are embracing kind of the celebrity moment. 401 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they understand that they can leverage celebrities and 402 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: sort of the pop culture interest to enhance, you know, 403 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: the US Open, extend the reach of the tournament. So 404 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: they actually teamed up with Alicia Keys' musical Hell's Kitchen 405 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: to like establish a brand new theme song, which I 406 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: think we're hearing it changes of ends and at other 407 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: times and on ESPN actually as well. 408 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 3: And they play music in between right like when there's 409 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 3: breaks in terms of the matches, So there is kind 410 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: of a fun party atmosphere. 411 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a party atmosphere. The DJs, you know, DJing 412 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: the tracks and that's leading to you know, unique moments. 413 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: I think there was a moment in twenty fifteen where 414 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Ti Blake dance to Beyonce's All 415 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the Single Ladies, and the USCA team was saying that 416 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: was the content piece that went the furthest in social media. 417 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: Well was stun natural. 418 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: They were just like, you know, all the single. 419 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: Ladies, Wait, who was that? That was justin Timberland And 420 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 3: don't you remember the SNL skit, right, that's the one. 421 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: We're just timberly dressed up in the Beyonce like leotard. 422 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: And I do not remember that one really. 423 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know Oasis, but you. 424 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: Don't know that you should go certain that. 425 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: How do they manage the celebrities, because as you said, 426 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 3: it's fourteen days limited seats, there are those matches you know, 427 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: celebrities want to be at and be seen at. How 428 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 3: does the USTA manage that? 429 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: So interestingly, they were saying opening night and the finals 430 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: weekend is when it's usually been you know, the most interest, 431 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: but now it's staggered out throughout the whole fourteen days. 432 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: They actually have hired an out like they outsource it 433 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: because it's just gotten too much. But yeah, they outsource it. 434 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: And they like, you deal with it. 435 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you you deal with it and then you know 436 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: from there on. But interestingly, last year was a record, 437 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: It was more than four hundred celebrities and this year 438 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: they expect to break that record. 439 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: I mean, how great is this for the USTA's business. 440 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's great. It's free publicity, Like, how what 441 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: could they ask more? 442 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 4: Especially if you have some of these celebs with their 443 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: own TikTok and Instagram accounts posting where they are what 444 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: they're doing. You can only imagine what that does for 445 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: demand for tickets. 446 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, or even the USBA posts it themselves right, like 447 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: they can capture you know, Lynn Manuel Maranda like watching 448 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: a point open mouthed like. 449 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah right, It's like pretty incredible. 450 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: It's like locked in. 451 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: I have found myself like when watching a certain match 452 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: or I think I remember it was like Gail King 453 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: and I don't remember whether it was justin Bieber or something, 454 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: and it's just like kind of cool as you're watching 455 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: in the camera and the camera scans. I am also 456 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: curious about the celebs are really cool, but I'm also 457 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: curious about you know, JP Morgan's been a big sponsor 458 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: for a long time. I mean, the financial world really 459 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: loves this thing too. 460 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see them, you know, they're here. They're 461 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: here quietly these few weeks, Like some have suites for 462 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: the entire two weeks, but most of them will be here. 463 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: Semi finals next Friday, Women's final on Saturday, which's presented 464 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: by Japenwrgan I believe, yeah, and then Sundays the men's final. 465 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 4: Okay, so there are some celebrities who are known kind 466 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: of fanatics men still are still. Yeah, he's like I've 467 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: seen I mean i've seen him a like exhibition matches 468 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: that I've gone to and in Manhattan, like you know, 469 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago and he's in court side. Yeah, like 470 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: to he'll got as much tennis. 471 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: As he's a huge Rapa fan as well, which is 472 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: I guess sad for him because the guy's not here. 473 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, he was at Wimbledon this year. I think 474 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: he was a Roland Garros like he's everywhere, He there everywhere. 475 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: And then Anna Wintour is obviously huge tennis fan. 476 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Well that's who I was thinking of, right, she's always 477 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: and who she's got sitting next to her, who met 478 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: you know, it's just kind of fascinating. It's interesting too, 479 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: and a year where we thought maybe without Serena it 480 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: would be very different. But I was kind of floored 481 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: when we got here, or at least when I got 482 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: here yesterday, like how crowded it was and how much 483 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: excitement there was, and just the matches, even the side matches, 484 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: like people are really exciting. As you said, you know, 485 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: there's some younger players, maybe not all household names, but 486 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: people are really into it, the celebrities as well. 487 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the grounds are really full. There are a ton 488 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: of Americans doing extremely well both on the men's and 489 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: women's side. So you know, this is a great time, 490 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: great time to be at the rside. 491 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: Friend, what's a box go for? Like? So the celebrities 492 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: you are in a box or what are those seats 493 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: that they're getting? 494 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: So the ones they would have to pay? What the 495 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: box is a different thing, but for quot side seats. 496 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I looked up yes today to buy a comparative seat 497 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: in the lower bowl. I think it was like fifteen 498 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: to seventeen hundred yesterday in the day session and probably 499 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: over two thousand for the night session. 500 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: And this is you know, the first week of the tournaments. 501 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: We're not even talking you know, getting to the finals. 502 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: Which can be ten thousand for like a very very 503 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: quote side seat. 504 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: Oh, it's just unbelievable. And you know, again that money 505 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: not necessarily going to the USTA. This is on the 506 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: this is being resold. 507 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: We had the numbers yesterday will racale numbers, but the 508 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: USA does sell some seats for ten thousand. 509 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about it's funny because we 510 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: realize that demand. That's always how it works, right, It 511 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: always comes down to that. As we said earlier, you know, 512 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: the USTA has got to love like the celebrities and 513 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: whether they're posting and so on and so forth. But 514 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 3: because they outsourced, like the managing of it, I guess 515 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: they're comfortable to talk about it because I always think 516 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: when there's an event and there's celebrities involved, people are 517 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: like very sketchy, not sketchy, but just delicate and how 518 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: they manage it. 519 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is different because the celebrities are 520 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: here and part of you know, the free ticket is 521 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: the they kind of agree to you know, the TV 522 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: knows where they are, the jump, the jumbo tron literally 523 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: scants them the change of bends and they'll like, you know, 524 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Tay Diggs, I think was he last night and he 525 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: gave the camera away like you know, it's all quick 526 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: pro quo a little bit. 527 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very much. 528 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: I wonder if there are also like celebrities incognito who 529 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: don't want to be seen, They want to come here 530 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: and they just want to watch tennis and not be Bob. 531 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: That would be Leonardo DiCaprio, who always tries to hide. 532 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 533 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: We saw him last year for Yet, which sweet he 534 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: was in, but he was wearing a mask and then 535 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: he eventually took it up. 536 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: I think there's a picture that he's actually I'm like, 537 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: and I was looking at the picture of like, where 538 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: is he in this picture? 539 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Actually? 540 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: Look at that? 541 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: Do you see that he actually is in this picture? 542 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: Zach Brath? But I don't see Leonardo. Oh there he is. Yeah, 543 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: his hands in front of his face. 544 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: He's a little bit inno. 545 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just wants to watch him. You know. He 546 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: could do that though not in the Celebt box. 547 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, he could do it in the stands, and 548 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: then nobody would. 549 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 4: Know until until you're like the person sitting right next 550 00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: to him. 551 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: Until you're like, yeah, you're next to him, and you're like, 552 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: what's going on with that? Jillian Tan, thank you so much. 553 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: Really love it. This is so much fun. She is 554 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: our senior reporter at Bloomberg News. Check out our story 555 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: on the Bloomberg and at Bloomberg dot com. We got 556 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: a headline crossing when it comes to Tesla and it's 557 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 3: robotaxi plans. 558 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, the company aims to unveil it's highly anticipated robotaxi 559 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: at an event at Warner Brothers Discovery's movie studio in 560 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: the Los Angeles area. This is according to people familiar 561 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: with the matter. 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Just say Alexa play Bloomberg eleven thirty buckle. 575 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: A journal. 576 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: How about you let me drive? 577 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no no. 578 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: Who's going to honey? 579 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: Please? 580 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: I'll do the travels elease wait, I. 581 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: Want to drive. 582 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 7: It's a good question that try. 583 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: This. 584 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: Please the drive to the clothes dot conks me think well, 585 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: brother Don on Bloomberg Radio. 586 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: All right, everybody, we are just about twenty minutes away 587 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: from the closing pal getting ready to wrap up the day, 588 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: the week, the month of August and the first week 589 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: of the US Open and the first week of the 590 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: US Open, which is where we find ourselves. So let's 591 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: get to it, because it's been really fun for us 592 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: to have guests who yeah, can talk about the Bloomberg 593 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: world and treating and investing, but also love tennis. 594 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: And one of the guest is here with us right now. 595 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: David Dits. He joins us each and every year from 596 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: the US Open. He's managing principal and senior investment strategist 597 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: that Pee Pack of private wealth management eleven point five 598 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: billion dollars in assets under management. He took a break 599 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 4: from Arthur ash Stadium where he was watching. 600 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: He gets the award for the day. He gets the award. 601 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: By the way, no doubt Shelton won. The first set, 602 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: is down two to one. 603 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: Okay, So I have the markets up on my screen 604 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: and Tim. 605 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: As the US That's why I'm using your screen for 606 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 4: the market. Yeah, David, how are you excellent? So happy 607 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: to be out here and great to be with you guys, 608 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: even though you're missing a little bit of tennis, you're 609 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: happy to be here. 610 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 6: We saw a wonderful match Coco one down the first set, 611 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 6: came back to win for three sets. We're big Cocoa fans. 612 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 6: We're big Ben Shelton fans too, so we'll see how 613 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 6: that works out. 614 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: What happened with her serve at the end of the match, 615 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: those two double faults in a row in matchpoint, you. 616 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: Know, the other night she had nine double faults and 617 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 6: her server was really struggling with it with her uh, 618 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 6: and then she practiced a lot. 619 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: She said after her win. I think she did better today. 620 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: She came to when she had to. 621 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I have, like I guess, a bad day 622 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: or a bad couple of days. But she but she 623 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: definitely rallied and came back in a big way. 624 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 6: Her opponent was hitting all out. I've never seen just 625 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 6: hard shots, so I actually think she was lucky to 626 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 6: pull out the win. 627 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: What good stuff, Ryan, It's been great tennis here. 628 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: You know, we keep asking everybody, right because it's always 629 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: been for so many years about Serena. What what do 630 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: you think, as you know, obviously every sport has different cycles, 631 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: it evolves. Do players come in, How are you thinking 632 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: about kind of some of the younger, newer players. 633 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, Coco is only twenty, so 634 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 6: I mean maybe she's got that the next William's sister, right, 635 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 6: And of course, you know, I think Ben Shelton's only 636 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 6: about twenty one years old too. So we've got some 637 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 6: young and up and coming stars and it just takes 638 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 6: a couple to reignite the spirit that we saw with 639 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 6: the Williams here in tennis, of course, with Tiger over 640 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 6: and golf. So that's what we're hoping for. 641 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: I think it's happening already. 642 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: I really think you're right, you get this better than 643 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: I do. 644 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: It just feels like it, I mean, with this with 645 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: these you know, for men's tennis, the Americans have been 646 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: absent from it for such a long period of time, 647 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: and to have a couple of Americans who are so 648 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: strong right now is big. On the men's side, the 649 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: women's side, I feel like never took a break after 650 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: after Serena. Coco was there. 651 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, the men do need to pick up the pace. 652 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: The last time a man won here from the United 653 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: States is twenty one years ago. 654 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 4: Wow, And so we need to get back on our 655 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: horse honor those days of you know, Michael Chang, Jim Currier, 656 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras. That was an era for a 657 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: while there. 658 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: We won eight out of eleven years, and now we've 659 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: had this dry spell. So let's hope for the some 660 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 6: of these younger guys. 661 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: Matt can row Connor, I'm going way. 662 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: Back, just saying we talk markets a little bit. 663 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: Let's go back. Yeah, let's let's talk markets. It's interesting, 664 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: it's mellow today. I'm not surprised right ahead of the 665 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: Labor Day holiday. I don't know this market feel okay 666 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: to you. Do you feel like it's going to push lower, 667 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: push higher, or mark time maybe until we get through 668 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: the election or through the first FED meeting. 669 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, in the beginning of the month, 670 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: of course, we had that three percent sell off, Japan 671 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 6: fell twelve percent. 672 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: Some people really panic. 673 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: There is a big People were saying, what we need 674 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: emergency rate moves, several of them fifty whatever, seventy five 675 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: bases points. 676 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: People were ready to jump off buildings. 677 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 6: That was crazy, And now even the Nasdaq may end 678 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 6: up August in the green, definitely the S and P 679 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: in the Dow. So it's like a whole different end 680 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 6: of the month here. 681 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: But how do you make sense of that? That's a 682 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: big swinging sentiment. 683 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, I think I think the number 684 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 6: one thing is basically jerm Pile put his pull in 685 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 6: the sand, said, mission accomplished on inflation. We're focused on 686 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 6: the labor market, We're focused on growth. Time is here 687 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 6: for a rate cut? And I'm looking at it. I'm saying, well, 688 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 6: you know, okay, we're still have positive job creation. Earning 689 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 6: should be up as much as fourteen percent next year. 690 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 6: Interest rates are coming down. You're getting less than four 691 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 6: percent in. 692 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: The ten year. 693 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 6: Do we need all the physical stimulus? But the fact 694 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 6: the matter is every day people like me come to 695 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 6: the office say what can I get on the ten 696 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 6: year treasury? What can I get in the market? And 697 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 6: is that those interests rates to go down? You're going 698 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 6: to be pushing into the market, and of course you've 699 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: got positive growth with earnings. 700 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: So is that where the trillions of dollars on the 701 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: sidelines in money markets. 702 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 6: Go well, you know they talk about six billion in 703 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: money market funds that you know, six trillion, six trillion exactly, 704 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 6: And of course everyone said, what I all. 705 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: Of a sudden dreamed in a big way. Did I 706 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: miss the headline? I know I've had some days off now, 707 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: just kid, it's. 708 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: A fossil situation. 709 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 6: But seriously, I mean, so people are talking about a 710 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 6: lot of people have that money in the money markets. 711 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: They're getting five percent. Why take the volatility in all 712 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 6: the house with the stock and you can get that 713 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 6: five percent. But now, of course, as interest rates start 714 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 6: to come down where already say now the two year 715 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 6: treasury is almost on parody now with the ten year 716 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 6: under four percent, and so eventually people are going to say, honey, 717 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 6: I think we have to do something because we can 718 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 6: no longer get to five percent. Let's get into some 719 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 6: dividend paying stocks, and I think that could provide a tailwork. 720 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 6: Having said that that full six troyes will not move 721 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 6: into stocks, there's a lot of money that will stay 722 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 6: in money market no matter what. 723 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: Let's talk Let's talk about some stocks that you like. 724 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: Boeing is one. We talked about it a lot, and 725 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: still the woes stocks down almost thirty four percent so 726 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: far this year. I mean, we could go into all 727 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 3: the problems, but the latest is getting the astronauts, you know, 728 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: back out of the space station. 729 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: They're there till twenty twenty five. 730 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: It was supposed to be. Was it a couple of days? 731 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: Why Boeing. 732 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 6: Yes, there's a lot of moving pieces here. But you know, basically, 733 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 6: you've got to doopoly in the world. Practically, between Boeing 734 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 6: and Airbus, they control practically the whole commercial fleet. And 735 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 6: one thing we know is going to happen over the 736 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 6: next twenty thirty years is the demand for aviation services 737 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 6: is going to outpace GDP. And really, you got that duopoly, 738 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 6: so you got one or the other. What I keep 739 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 6: looking at is the orders that Boeing has over five 740 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 6: hundred billion dollars of orders that show's confidence among the 741 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 6: world to airlines. 742 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: Is the confidence or those orders have already been placed there? 743 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: You know? 744 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: My understanding is Airbus can't come in the end of 745 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: the day. People can't say I understand that, But I 746 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: wonder about new orders. Is Boeing gonna have some problems 747 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: down the road? 748 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: Well, again, more problems. 749 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 6: The demand for aviation is there if they just fulfill 750 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 6: the existing orders or in good shape. And the question 751 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 6: is where else do you go? Okay, Boeing has had 752 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 6: safety problems, no question about it. But does that mean 753 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 6: you go with a lesser light, a lesser name outside 754 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 6: this country, Like you. 755 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: Don't mean Pardier for example, put but they don't even 756 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: have a plane that matches at seven thirty seven or 757 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: an A three twenty. I mean that that narrow body 758 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: market is dominated by airplay. 759 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 6: So we've got new management over at Boeing and to 760 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 6: satisfy the FAA on the safety issues, and you've got 761 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 6: to get that production up in your good shape. 762 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: Thirty seconds you talk new management Intel, you like news today, 763 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: maybe splitting off its foundry. They're working with their bankers 764 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: to kind of figure out what's next. Maybe it needs 765 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: new management. What do you like about this company? You 766 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: gotta be quick about twenty five seconds? 767 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, So it's still number one in terms of 768 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 6: chips for PCs and servers right. Also, it's almost like 769 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 6: an US institution for national security. We want to bring 770 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 6: production here. To not support Intel in his time of 771 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 6: need by the US government would be the wrong thing. 772 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 6: They're getting serious. The stockers down sixty percent of the date, 773 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 6: They're down twenty eight percent this month. They're up about 774 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 6: nine percent today on news that they're getting serious about 775 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 6: perhaps splitting apart, the company backing off some of the 776 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 6: capital expenditures, getting back on track, the American government fully 777 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 6: behind them. 778 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: We got to run. I have a great weekend. 779 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 6: Thank you. 780 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: David Dee's over at Peapac Private Wealth Management. This is Bloomberg. 781 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Business Week podcast of a Little Apple, Spotify, 782 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcast. 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