1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. And 3 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: in lieu of talking about tariffs and the White House, 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: in fighting and everything else underneath the sun, instead we're 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: setting all that aside. It's time this hour to talk 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Part two, maybe the final part. I don't know of 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: the worst battlefield conditions I've ever read about in the 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: history of the world. I'm not exaggerating, and it's fighting 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: that nobody knows about. Very few people do. The Italian Front. 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: It's known as the Italian Front of World War One. 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Give you a thirty second recap of what you missed yesterday. 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: In case you're just now joining US. Germany in Austria Hungary. 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna refer to them as Austria from now 14 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: on because I get annoyed having to say that whole name. 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Germany and Austria. They're at war with Britain, with France, 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: with Russia. Italy's not sure which side they're gonna land on, 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: but they decide they really want those Alps on the 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: northern part of Italy, the Alps Austria currently has. They 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: declare for the Allies and they go after the Alps. 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: The Austrians are desperately fighting on two fronts already, so 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: they don't have the men or the resources to properly 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: defend this area. And they do the only thing they 23 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: could do. They retreat up into the mountains and they 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: say to the Italians, okay, come get us out of 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: the mountains. And these are mountains nine thousand feet thirteen 26 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: thousand feet. I'll tell you this what kind of conditions 27 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: we're discussing. I actually, in all my research dig into this, 28 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I found a hut that is still there. It is 29 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: on a mountaintop at thirteen thousand feet. It's covered in snow. 30 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: The hut is fairly preserved. It was the Austrians. You 31 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: can't go in it because inside of it so much 32 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: moisture has seeped in. Inside of it is a gigantic 33 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: block of ice. They would put men up there, we'll 34 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: call it a dozen men. They would leave you up 35 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: there for three weeks at a time. The climbers who 36 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: were investigating this hut, when I looked at it they 37 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: had to repel, looked to be about fifty feet down 38 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: the cliff where they located. What the men were forced 39 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: to use as a latrine for three weeks. When's the 40 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: last time you had to go pee in the middle 41 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: of the night. Didn't enjoy it? Did you get out 42 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: from underneath those warm covers and walk to the bathroom? Yeah, 43 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: imagine that, little midnight John. We are discussing some of 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: the most extreme stuff. So Austria is desperate. Okay, now 45 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: we're picking up the story. You're caught up for the 46 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: most part. You missed a lot of background. You're gonna 47 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: have to go download yesterday's podcast. iHeart Spotify iTunes. Austria 48 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: is desperate. They cannot afford to lose on this front. 49 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: So they have other more important fronts, but they can't 50 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: afford to lose this one. What do you do? They 51 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: start grabbing everybody they can and sending them down to 52 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the mountains. Austria is so desperate they're going to shooting 53 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: clubs and scarfing them up. And that's just as crazy 54 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: as it sounds. I'm talking the local club of forty 55 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: year old dudes. They meet on the weekend to go 56 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: shoot guns. Maybe they go pheasant. The Austrian government comes 57 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: in and says, hey, here's a uniform. We need you 58 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: to come fight Austria's doing everything they can to slow 59 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: the Italians down, things like blowing the bridges. And let's 60 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: discuss this because whenever you look at the Italian campaign, 61 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: what you'll see. And believe me, if you looked into 62 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: this last night at all, you already know what I'm 63 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: talking about. If you didn't, I'm gonna give it away. 64 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: You'll see. They keep fighting what are known as battles 65 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: of the Assanzo, the Battle of the Assanzo, the battle. 66 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I can't even figure out how many battles there were. 67 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: One person said there were ten, another said there were seven. 68 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: That's because the battles tend to blend together. If there's 69 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: a battle one day and then not another battle three 70 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: days later, is that the same battle? Is that? Okay, 71 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: so you get it. But they kept fighting these battles 72 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: of the Asanzo. The Asonzo's a river. Not only is 73 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: it a river, it's a freezing river. Have you ever 74 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: been to the mountains. Everybody listened to me in Denver 75 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: right now in Montana, everybody knows what I'm talking about. 76 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: But that beautiful river, you see, it's freezing all the time. 77 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: We used to have in Bozeman, Montana. We would go 78 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: float the river, and because we were irresponsible and we 79 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: only had one car, we would drop ourselves off and 80 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: float down the river and then we'd go hitchhike our 81 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: way back up to the car. I know, it's amazing, Yes, Chris. 82 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: We would float a freezing river. It was frigid. You 83 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: didn't look I remember the first time I floated a 84 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: river when I wasn't in Montana. Me and some Marine 85 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: Corps buddies of mine. We were down in Phoenix. We 86 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: had a long weekend and so we wanted to do 87 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of irresponsible things, as marines tend to do 88 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: when they're off. And there is something known as the 89 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Salt River down there. We went floating the Salt River 90 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: and it was so foreign to me because everybody was 91 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: in the water. Everyone's kind of hanging out, hanging on 92 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: to the side of your inner tube. You didn't hang 93 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: on to the side of your inner tube when you 94 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: floated the Madison, not for very long because the water 95 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: was freezing cold. Well, these are the conditions we're dealing 96 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: with when Austria blows the bridges. How do you even 97 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: get across a river like this? Fight these battles when 98 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you're being shot at from machine gun nests. How do 99 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: you cross a frigid river where your body will shut 100 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: down if you spend too much time inside of it. 101 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: We did a river crossing like this once. What wasn't 102 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: a crossing, It was just basic torture to teach us 103 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: how to deal with it. We did mountain warfare training 104 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps one time, and look, I know 105 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: they did it just because they thought it would be funny, 106 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: but they made us There was this It wasn't even 107 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: a river. It was a very big, very deep stream, 108 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: as in up to my neck deep. It was quite 109 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: a string. They had us lock arms with each other 110 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: and we had to go walk out into the middle 111 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: of it, up to our chest and just stand there. 112 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, the temperature of this water, it was thirty 113 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: seven degrees. They had to stand there and I don't 114 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: remember the time. I don't want to give you a time, 115 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: but I would say five minutes maybe maybe maybe not 116 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: even that. By the time we got back to the shore, 117 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: everybody kind of had to just lay down when you 118 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: got out of the water, because you didn't lose feeling 119 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: in your fingers, you couldn't feel your body anymore. Have 120 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: you ever lost feeling in your body because it's so cold. Well, 121 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: that's the kind of These are the kind of battles 122 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. Now, let's talk about who's doing 123 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: the charging on the Italian side. We already talked yesterday 124 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: about how poorly equipped and poorly trained and poorly led 125 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: the Italian army was. They were having a difficult time 126 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: beating up Ethiopia. They just couldn't. African countries couldn't hold 127 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: off the Italians. Now they're fighting against the Austrians, who 128 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I realized they're not the Germans, right, the Germans were 129 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: the peak of this war. They weren't the Germans but 130 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: a very modern thing. The Italian army was completely lost. 131 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Their officers were completely lost at how to even train 132 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: for something like this. They were still training as if 133 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: it was the year eighteen hundred instead of the year 134 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: nineteen fifteen. What they believed, what they're Italian, what the 135 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Italian leadership believed. They believed that toughness was all the 136 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: men actually needed. So, look, toughness is great, you want 137 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: toughness in your troops. But they thought they were properly 138 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: training the troops when they would throw packs on them 139 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: and march them for twenty miles. Now, there may be 140 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: times when you have to throw on a pack in 141 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: march for twenty miles, But you know what it doesn't 142 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: do for you. It doesn't teach you how to survive 143 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: a machine gun nest. When you're charging it. You can 144 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: be the toughest thing in the world. That doesn't mean 145 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: anything when you're charging machine gun nests. The Italian Army 146 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: lost twenty thousand people the first month, and I brought 147 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: up these battles of the asanzo. Let me just give 148 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: away the game a little bit here. This whole affair 149 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: is so unbelievably heartbreaking because as I was trying to 150 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: figure out where all this was taking place and get 151 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: my bearings on where was where and who was where, 152 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: I came across this amazing map and it had the 153 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Austrian it had the Italians, and it had this battle 154 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: and that battle on it. And on this map they 155 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: had a little key on the bottom of the map 156 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: like maps too, right, so this marking shows you this 157 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: is where a road is, and this map shows you 158 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: where this is. And on this map I saw right 159 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: away because of the key, I saw where the lines 160 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: were at the beginning of this whole affair. Okay, so 161 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at where the battle lines were, but I 162 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: looked down at the key and I saw where the 163 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: lines were at the end of it all, and that 164 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't seem to locate on the map where were 165 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: the lions at the end? You know why I couldn't 166 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: find them because they didn't move a million men plus 167 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: for nothing. Will continue in a moment. Hang on the 168 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 169 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday, talking about World War One, which 170 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: is improving my mood immensely. We'll get back to more 171 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: politics next. However, we're discussing now kind of the beginning 172 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: of this whole Austria Italian dust up in World War One. 173 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: In case you're just now joining us. Now, for the 174 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: purpose of our next little talk here, I need you 175 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: to picture mountains. But what I'm about to say it 176 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: may it may be like something you know, or it 177 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: may sound different to you. I'm going to describe a 178 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: mountain range. And the reason I had to qualify it 179 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: that way is if you grew up in the mountains, 180 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: or you're aware of the mountains. This is going to 181 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: be the most obvious thing in the world to you. 182 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: If you didn't, maybe you're just from the south or 183 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: the east, or maybe you're listening in Honolulu right now. 184 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I need to explain something, right, mountains. When you picture 185 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: a mountain, before you become familiar with mountains, you generally 186 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: picture Mount Fuji, Japan. You ever seen a picture of 187 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Mount Fuji, Japan. I've actually been there. I said an 188 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: illegal fire there once, but that's another story. But you 189 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: picture when you're not familiar with mountains, you picture one 190 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: big mountain popping up. It's gotta watch your picture, right, Chris, 191 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: see Chris as a sudden It's That's exactly why I 192 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: wanted to have this talk because it's important. Chris doesn't 193 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: spend any time in the mountains, but mountain ranges are 194 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: an entirely different affair, and so I'm going to explain 195 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: it like this. I'm sorry for dumbing this down for 196 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: everyone aware of the mountains, but it's gonna be important 197 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: for you to understand it in this way. So picture 198 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: a piece of paper, just a white piece of paper, 199 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: you with me. To the untrained eye, a mountain would 200 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: be a Hershey's kiss that you drop in the middle 201 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: of it. Okay, so you have all this flat ground 202 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: and then brip, there's your mountain. You with me, all right, 203 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Now here's what it actually is. One you need to 204 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: picture that. You have twenty different sizes of hershey kisses. Okay, 205 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: some are little minis, some are taller, some are fatter, 206 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: some are skinnier. But they're all different sizes. They're all 207 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: shaped like a Hershey's kiss, Okay, but they're all different sizes. 208 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Now drop them all onto that piece of paper, and 209 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: some of them connect. Maybe a tiny one connects with 210 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: a medium one. Maybe a huge one connects with a 211 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: medium one. Maybe a tiny one connects with it. Maybe 212 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: three are connected together, maybe there's four. But there's peaks everywhere. 213 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: And this is so critical to understand what's taking place 214 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: in this battle, because what this is it is a 215 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: year's long struggle for the high ground in the most 216 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: extreme way possible. Austria they retreated up into the peaks 217 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: because they believed correctly, you control the. 218 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Peaks, you control the valleys. If you control the peaks, 219 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: you control everything. You set up your artillery pieces up there, 220 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: you set up your sharpshooters up there. You dig in, 221 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: it'll be very, very difficult, as we will find out, 222 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: to get you out of there. 223 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: That's one. Two you are able to observe everything, and 224 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: three you can fire at anything that is within range. 225 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: You have to have the mountain peaks. Only it's not 226 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: one peak. There are peaks everywhere. It's a mountain range. 227 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: They are stretched out, they are connected. There's a valley 228 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: by this one, a little ravine up this one. This 229 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: one has a sheer rock cliff. The other one has 230 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: more of a gradual slope. They are not some uniform, 231 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: one off thing. It is a mountain range. It is 232 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: a mess, a complete mess. Okay, Now the idea was, 233 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: as I said, you take the high ground, you keep 234 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: the high ground. So you have to get up to 235 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: not just a peak. You have to get up to 236 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: the tallest peak. Let's go back to our Hershe's kisses. 237 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: What if I take a mountain? What if I and 238 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: this happened many times, through blood, sweat and tears, I 239 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: fight my way up to the top of a mountain. 240 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: I managed to dislodge the Austrian troops from the top 241 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: of the mountain, and now my men hold the mountain. Nice, 242 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: We got it, guys, Except is that is that the 243 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: tallest mountain in the area. That's a really important question 244 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: because if it's not the tallest mountain in the area, 245 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: guess what the the tallest mountain in the area is 246 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: about to start doing to you. As you sit on 247 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the mountain that is not the tallest mountain in the area. 248 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: You see, Yes, you fought hard, you lost a lot 249 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: of lives, you took the peak. But that mountain right there, 250 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: three miles away, they're looking down on you, and right 251 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: about now their artillery is going to start firing down 252 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: on you, and you will be leaving that mountain you 253 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: just took. Kind of brings it into perspective the kind 254 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: of nightmare we're dealing with here and the kind of 255 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: strategy you have to come up with. If you're an 256 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: overall commander, you have to figure out how to get 257 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: your men alive up into the mountains. You have to 258 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: figure out which mountain you need to assault first, you 259 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: have to figure out the direction you're going to attempt 260 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: to assault that mountain from. And oh, I've failed, dementia 261 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: and this it's very, very, very difficult for modern countries 262 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: to supply their troops on good terrain. Now go to 263 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: a brand new country like Italy, not at all modern 264 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: at the time, and put their troops up into the 265 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: cliffs and Austria, the same thing applies to them. How 266 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: are you going to feed them? How are you getting 267 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: the artillery pieces up the mountain? Oh, it gets so 268 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: much worse, so much worse. We will continue in a moment. 269 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Maybe all this talk about climbing mountains has your knees aching. 270 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: I have great news. You have something. Neither of these 271 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: armies had access to relief factor. I bet they would 272 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: have killed to have some relief factor. 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So 292 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: let's discuss the logistical situation, because it is something amazing, 293 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. The Austrians and the Italians, 294 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: they had to figure out how to get the men 295 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: up to the cliffs, and they had to figure out 296 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: how to feed the men, how to clothe the men, 297 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: how to get the men, the bombs, the bullets. Everything. Look, 298 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: we used to uh, we used to go on, well, 299 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: we called them humps, but I guess you'd know them 300 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: as forced marches all the time in the Marine Corps 301 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: and we would hump all of our gear near your 302 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: body armor and things like that. And there were times 303 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: even in training where they would give us, if not ammunition, 304 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: they would give us the weight of ammunition. So, for instance, 305 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: I was a mortarman and three point forty one mortarman. 306 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, now, let's say we're about to do ten 307 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: miles a ten mile hump out into the field, right, 308 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: So I'm probably loading on sixty seventy pounds of gear. 309 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: Remember I have myself, but that doesn't count. But I 310 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: have a flak jacket, bulletproof vest. You would know it 311 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: as that's heavy. I have some webbing of you've seen 312 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: webbing people where that they put magazines and canteens. And 313 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put this in language you would understand 314 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: that goes over my flack jacket. Just that, let's pause 315 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: right there. Just that alone, flak jacket webbing, that's probably 316 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty pounds at least bare minimum. Then I 317 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: have my pack. Of course, we're going to go out 318 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: to the field where I have to loot, shoot and 319 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: do whatever, probably going to stay out there. I have 320 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of gear I have to keep inside of 321 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: my pack. My food food alone. I have my food. 322 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: I have to have something to to sleep. I have 323 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: to be able to sleep somewhere. What if the weather 324 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: gets cold, means I have to have a sleeping bag 325 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: of some kind. Okay, so you got it. My pack 326 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: has all kinds of weight in it. How But then 327 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: we also have your weapon. That's eight pounds roughly. Okay, 328 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: that's an eight pound weapon. How but you're in mortars. Congratulations, 329 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: here's a thirty pound base plate. Carry this, Attach that 330 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: to your pack. Now carry that. Okay, so already you're 331 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: doing the math in your head. Now, I'm a mortarman. 332 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: When I get to where we're going, let's call it combat. 333 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: But when I get to where we're going, I need 334 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: to have mortar rounds to shoot. Otherwise, what's the point 335 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: of even having the mortars up there? I need rounds. 336 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: And guess what, I don't need one or two. I'm 337 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna need probably several rounds just to get on target, 338 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: just to adjust my guns to get on target. We're 339 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: gonna need you to throw a couples in a piece everybody. 340 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: In fact, they may even make the entire company put 341 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: a mortar round or two in their pack. Let's go 342 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: ahead and add another twenty pounds to everybody's pack and 343 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: that mortar shoot we're about to go do even with 344 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: everybody in the company loading out a couple rounds for me, 345 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I got twenty minutes worth. Thirty minutes worth. Now that 346 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: was just me as a as a mortarman part of 347 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: an infantry company in the Marine Corps. Now what does 348 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: that look like when I have to get the men, 349 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: equipment and food. I need five thousand feet up that cliff, 350 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: and I need everything that goes with it because we're 351 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: fighting a war up there. Oh oh, and I forgot 352 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: this little tidbit. The weather. I know you probably already 353 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: figured this out, but the cold in these Alps one, 354 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: it was, of course unreasonably cold at that time, but 355 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: no matter what, twenty thirty below zero. This part of 356 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: World War One combines the worst parts of Chosen Reservoir 357 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: in Korea, which we've talked about, and the Western Front 358 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: of World War One. It combines them both that level 359 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: of cold, the frost bite. You know, men used to 360 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: smear fat all over their skin, otherwise they would get 361 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: frostbite all over their skin. Men routinely had hands, fingers, feet, 362 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: legs amputated because they would turn black. Men would just 363 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: simply go up on the mountains and freeze. They had 364 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: to mobilize the Italian civilian popular. We're not even talking 365 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: about the Austrians. The Italian civilian population. The women had 366 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: to be mobilized, as I guess you'd just call them 367 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: a team of seamstresses. They had to start sewing blankets 368 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: and clothing together. So the men they sent up to 369 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: the front came back with all their fingers and toes. 370 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: The conditions were so unspeakably awful out there. They started 371 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: investigating the bullet wounds. Italian troops would come back with 372 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: you know why, They would be looking for what were 373 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: known as scorch marks. You get a scorch mark when 374 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: the weapon is fired really really close to you. If 375 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: you ever look at a slow motion picture of a gun, 376 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: a slow motion picture, I guess all pictures are slow motion. 377 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: A slow motion video of a gun being fired, you 378 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: see those flames coming out the end can be hard 379 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: to see if you're watching it live. Well, well, come 380 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: out the end right, because there's an explosion in that barrel. 381 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: If you shoot yourself, there will generally be scorch marks 382 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: because you will be too close for yourself. They used 383 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: to examine the wounds of the Italian troops for scorch marks. 384 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: Because these conditions were so bad, the men were routinely 385 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: killing themselves or shooting themselves in the arm, leg, or 386 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: foot to get off of the frozen mountains. The Italians 387 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: executed over four thousand men for cowardice during this time. 388 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying all those men were cowards. This 389 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: is what happens when you take normal boys of any nationality, 390 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: but in this case they were Italians eighteen nineteen twenty 391 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: years old. You take them and you throw them up 392 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: top into a living hell. Now, the frostbite does many 393 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: many things, the altitude does many many things. But all this, 394 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: all this meant you can't supply these guys. Regularly, men 395 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: didn't have enough water. Oftentimes the men would get a 396 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: leader of water for an entire day. Do you know 397 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: how fast your body would use up a leader of 398 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: water in these types of conditions. If you're just sitting 399 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: around being fat all day, your body's going to use 400 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: up more water than that. These men are thousands of 401 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: feet above sea level, oxygen deprived, and if you have 402 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: to walk fifty yards, you are going to walk up 403 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: elevation down elevation. This is not even taken into account 404 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: the combat aspect of it. Your body is eating up 405 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: calories and eating up water, and the men are darving. 406 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: In some cases they can't supply them at all, and 407 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: then men will go two three days with no food. 408 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: So what happened next was Look, I know, this is 409 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: a lot of ugly and there's still more ugly to come. 410 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: But what happened next is amazing. There are logistical things 411 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: that man is able to overcome that just dumbfound me. 412 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: And some of the things they did here are amazing. 413 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the logistics of it. Then we'll get 414 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 1: back to politics, shall we. Before we get to that, 415 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: let me talk to you about this little problem meets expensive, 416 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: isn't it chicken, beef, fish? It's expensive, cost a lot. 417 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: What if you could never ruin a cut of meat again? Ever, 418 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: that's what the IQ sense will do for you. The 419 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: IQ Sense, it's from chef iq. The IQ sense is 420 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: a wireless cooking thermometer that stays in the meat. You're 421 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: not opening the grill, open in the oven, putting it in, 422 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: checking it. You put it in the meat and you 423 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: leave it in there. It connects to the app on 424 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: your phone, and your phone will tell you when the 425 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: meat is done. You just you set the internal temperature 426 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: and just walk away. Don't sit there staring at the 427 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: oven doing the little hand check thing. I can't tell 428 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: you cook the temperature. All the greats cook the temperature. 429 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: In fact, they all tell you if you're looking, you're 430 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: not cooking. Never look again. When I put meat in, 431 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't look till it's done, and I don't have 432 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: to guess because the IQ sense tells me it's done. 433 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: Talk about money savings, I haven't ruined a stake since 434 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I got one. Chefiq dot com code Jesse saves you 435 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: fifteen percent at checkout chefiq dot com code Jesse. We'll 436 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: be back. Jesse Kelly returns next. It is the Jesse 437 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a Wonderful Tuesday. Don't forget. You can 438 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. So 439 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: the Austrians are having a harder time than the Italians 440 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: actually at resupplying their men. The Austrians are in no 441 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: great shape. It's just the Austrians have the benefit of 442 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: having the mountaintops the Italians don't, and so they're working 443 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: on it, and what happens is they keep dying trying 444 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: to get supplies up there. It's a humongous problem when 445 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: you actually think about a mountain range and you think 446 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: about the fact the Austrians are looking down, and when 447 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: you think about the fact the Austrians and the Italians 448 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: both employed sharpshooters with scopes and everything else, and they 449 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: were there to kill everybody, and you can see everybody. 450 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: So what do you have to do? Well, you can try, 451 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: and they did this many times to resupply people at 452 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: night of course, then you can't be seen. But have 453 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: you ever been on a mountainside. I've been on many. 454 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: You are in a dangerous place in peacetime. You are 455 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: in a dangerous place, and if you step the wrong way, 456 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: that can be it for you. It really can be. 457 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be a sheer rock cliff 458 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: going down. If it's too steep and something gives way 459 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: underneath your feet or you trip or something like that, 460 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: you are going to fall very fast. Even though you're 461 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: on the ground. You're not free falling. You're gonna fall 462 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: very very fast. You're gonna slam into things and you 463 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: are going to be broken. If not dead. You know 464 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: what it's like to travel at night in the middle 465 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: of the Alps. Hey, here's a fifty pound pack. It's 466 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: got ammo. The guys up there need have a nice walk. 467 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: It's midnight and you can't hardly pull out your flashlight, now, 468 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: can you, because then the other side sees you and 469 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: shoots you in the head. What do you do? You 470 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get your guys supplied. 471 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: So there is something I'll give you something if you're 472 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: if you're ever in the area, something I really, really 473 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: really want to do. The Italians came up with something 474 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: called the Road of fifty two tunnels. Okay, road of 475 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: fifty two tunnels. I'm gonna say it again, the Road 476 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: of fifty two tunnels. This way, you don't email me 477 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: asking me about it. You can go walk it to 478 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: this day. It's a few miles. I think it took 479 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: like ten months to build. The Italians started using train 480 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: They would lay train tracks winding up the side of 481 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: the mountain. They built the Road of fifty two tunnels, 482 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: They built other roads. They flat out started tunneling. And 483 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: that brings me to probably what's going to be the 484 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: final part today. The tunnels many of which are still 485 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: there because they were carved into the granite of the mountain. 486 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: Both sides figured out being exposed was death. Even if 487 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: the bullets didn't get you, if the bombs didn't get you, 488 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: if the avalanches didn't get you, if the rock slides 489 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: didn't get you, the temperatures alone probably would. You had 490 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: to come up with ways where men could get into 491 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: the mountain, into the countryside. And so they took caves 492 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: that were already there and expanded them, and they took 493 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: caves that weren't there, and they brought in all these engineers. 494 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: In fact, you go look up pictures of them. I 495 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: saw a bunch of them Italian engineers in the mountains 496 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: that were brought in to tunnel, and that's what they 497 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: were there for. And the Austrians did it too, And 498 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: these tunnels took many different forms for many different purposes. 499 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: Maybe you would have a tunnel that goes from underneath 500 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: this peak to underneath the other peak where your guys 501 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: hold it, because you want to be able to supply 502 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: them with food and water safely. Maybe that's a reason. 503 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's not as much of a tunnel as 504 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: it is a man made cave. You see all kinds 505 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: of these where instead of it being this long tunnel, 506 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: picture it twenty feet deep. They'll simply find a way 507 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: to blast out or mine out a big a room 508 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, a 509 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: room with an open side into the mountain, where you 510 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: will sleep for two weeks until you're relieved. You don't 511 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: leave the area because you're on the side of a 512 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: mountain and you had to use ropes and climbing equipment 513 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: to get into the area. When what it is the daytime, 514 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: you will spend your time at the opening observing. Maybe 515 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: you have a field telephone, maybe you're one of the sharpshooters, 516 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: and what you do is you sit there and you 517 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: simply kill every Austrian and or Italian you can find. 518 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: A room carved into the side of the mountain, but 519 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: they weren't all carved into the granite, you see. Because 520 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: we're dealing with essentially Antarctica with bombs, they made ice 521 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: caves where men slept in the ice was such a 522 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: solid block. They would tunnel through the ice and the 523 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: men would move to and fro inside of the ice 524 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: in the mountains and probably finish it up with this 525 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: little tidbit here today. Not all the caves were completely sturdy, 526 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: as you can imagine. You can only do what you 527 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: can do, and so when the artillery started dropping, and 528 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: it was always dropping, the men always had to make 529 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: a choice. You can stay in the cave with the 530 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: possibility the entrance will cave in and you will slowly 531 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: starve to death in the dark, or the cave will 532 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: flat out fall on you and you will lay there. 533 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: Hopefully you die right away, because if you don't, you'll 534 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: lay there broken under the rocks and snow until you 535 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 1: freeze to death or starved to death. Or if that's 536 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: too much of a fear, and it was too much 537 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: of a fear, just depends on what your fears are. 538 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: If that's too much, you're welcome to leave. And then 539 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: you will find the air is full of razor sharp 540 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: molten steel in the form of shrapnel flying everywhere to 541 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: cut you in two oh and by the way, you're 542 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: in the mountains and it's twenty below zero and you 543 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: just lost a finger yesterday. We will wrap up this 544 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: story tomorrow. We're going to get back to the politics. Today. 545 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this internal fight in the 546 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: White House. I have a little bit of an issue 547 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: with Christy nome more, FBI, malfeasans, all kinds of things 548 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: still to get to. 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