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Speaker 2: This guest in the building.

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Speaker 1: She's always gonna cause all kind of drama. We're not drama,

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Speaker 1: or you get the people talking. We got sight hair.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Says what's up?

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Speaker 3: And you know we premiered your song Round and around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't help but twitch, I brought a gift

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Speaker 3: You did, okay. I cannot wait to see what this is.

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Speaker 3: You mad?

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Speaker 1: That's so random, because you know, you came in here

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I wish I had a hat,

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Speaker 3: Let me see.

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Speaker 2: I was like, is she a black girl? Orange green?

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Speaker 3: What kind of do we like?

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Speaker 2: That's what I was saying.

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Speaker 3: So I said, let me bring on three so you

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Speaker 3: could schoose what y'all think somebody picked for me. You

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Speaker 3: like the orange? Okay? Yeah, I think orange goes good.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, say.

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Speaker 3: Round round. And I was in the city.

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Speaker 4: I was in Queen's last night all night, going to

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Speaker 3: Round and it's perfect time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know, it's like summer loading and I

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Speaker 2: That's just what it is, I know.

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Speaker 1: And you know what though, as much as you want

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Speaker 1: I think in your music, you know, sometimes that's reflective.

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Speaker 1: Other times it is dance and have fun. But it's

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Speaker 1: so important to understand the journey because twenty five years,

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Speaker 4: You know, I started in nineteen ninety nine and twenty

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Speaker 4: It's a very big thing.

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Speaker 4: That's really what gets me because you have a lot

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Speaker 4: It really is just humbling for me to know that

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing this project independently by myself as a

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Speaker 3: And to be clear, you have a lot of accolades.

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Speaker 1: You're the first dance a woman artists you know, to

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Speaker 4: So I'm just always just super happy and humbled over

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Speaker 1: It and I just want to you know, sometimes when

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Speaker 1: I'm also watching Love and Hip Hop, we get a

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Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, all of that, but let's turn his

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Speaker 4: And for me, you know, reality TV is just like

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Speaker 4: The only differences means that my stuff is just happening

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know what happened, but because the camera is on,

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Speaker 2: Hey can you you know, just to get.

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Speaker 2: So it's a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: And for myself, as a huge fan of Dancer, I've

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Speaker 1: Right, and that's the price you know, and you definitely

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Speaker 3: If you had this platform, I got to have some products.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So that's.

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Speaker 1: You knowity on what's happening in this season. That's so

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Speaker 3: But for me, I feel like that's a big We

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Speaker 4: Don't play me all the time, so let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to supposed to be about music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Rashida's on the album. I'm so excited for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as we're talking about all of these

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I forget about but yeah, I bought a house

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Speaker 4: You know, to be honest, if this one song caused

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Speaker 4: I always say, like we you know, want business to

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00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,600
Speaker 4: get aware. The kick is big enough to share it

446
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,119
Speaker 4: for everybody. You can't be in every country at the

447
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 4: same time, right, you know what I'm saying. So everybody

448
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 4: can be their own person. There's not going to be

449
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,159
Speaker 4: another Spice or another person that is like me. You

450
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 4: can be your own self, and I can be my

451
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 4: own self, and another person can be their own self

452
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,359
Speaker 4: and everybody and we can also share fans. A lot

453
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 4: of people don't just realize that we share fansuely and

454
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 4: that's okay, Like, why can't we all just make it

455
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 4: to the top together. Why have to be a competition

456
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,200
Speaker 4: all the time. I feel like that's what it is.

457
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 4: And I'm always gonna be the good artist that I am.

458
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm a great stage performer, always creative, So I'm always

459
00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 4: going to be a problem for you if you're always

460
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 4: thinking that, because I'm always going to try to come

461
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 4: up with something good.

462
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and you're always gonna be able to have

463
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 3: your legs.

464
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm always.

465
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,160
Speaker 3: One of my old ladies. You know. That's interesting.

466
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,119
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this too, because I see with

467
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 1: your success, and like with Shensia's success, I feel like

468
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 1: people will pit you guys for some reason, Like I've

469
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 1: seen it in comments, you know, against that.

470
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why don't.

471
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 3: I don't think you do that. She doesn't do that,

472
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,360
Speaker 3: but people do that.

473
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 4: But the industry does that overall, even just with other artists.

474
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,360
Speaker 4: I've seen it too as well. I feel like they

475
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 4: feel like they've got to be a rivalry between two

476
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 4: persons for a come up. I'm not sure why, because

477
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't feel that way.

478
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: What about the other women in dance hall in general? Like,

479
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 1: how has that been for you?

480
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 4: Because I have a lot of you mean, like other

481
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: women in dancehall or yeah, like just doing like collapse

482
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 4: or you know, reaching out to The funny thing is

483
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of collapse in in dancehall, contrary

484
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 4: to the belief where they make it seems like I do.

485
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 2: I have a lot of female collabs.

486
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 4: I've collabed with Pampote before, I've collabed with Tifa, I've

487
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 4: collabed with Steph London, I've collabed with Angel, I've collabed

488
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 4: with so many women in the industry before, and more

489
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 4: names that I'm not even thinking of right now.

490
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 2: But people just make it seems differently right.

491
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 4: But I do have a lot of female collaborations under

492
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 4: my belt now and I have more to come and

493
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 4: I have female collabs.

494
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: Wait when I said that you have a release date, right, Yes,

495
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 1: you've made a big announcement.

496
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 4: I've made the big announcement. August ninth is the date

497
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: that I choose. I'm excited. I can't wait.

498
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm the executive producer.

499
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 4: So it's like all these twenty five songs that I

500
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 4: chose was from me, so cuse me, yes for them.

501
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was really fun listening to even your old

502
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: woman voice. Really twenty eighty five because so far we've.

503
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 1: Only got to hear around and I mean round, round

504
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: and twenty eighty five t So that's what I have

505
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: to base it off of. Yes, but it's a fun song,

506
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you as I was aving see cells

507
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: around Round.

508
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying all the songs. I can't choose. People ask

510
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 4: me what's your favorite so far. I love all the songs.

511
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 4: They all have a special place.

512
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: Which gets you most emotional because I feel like there

513
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: being that this is a reflective album, there's got to

514
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: be some things out.

515
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 4: The song, the first song on there is what gets

516
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 4: me emotional, very emotional, all.

517
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 3: Right, give me a little something about it.

518
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: It's a gospel song.

519
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I like that.

520
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: I started it with a gospel song.

521
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: And I know part of your journey has also been

522
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: because you have, you know, children, missing your children when

523
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: you have to work, and I know.

524
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: You've sacrifice absolutely leaving the kids and working and going

525
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: back and forward. It is definitely a sacrifice. But what

526
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: makes the sacrifice, you know, not so okay, but what

527
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 4: makes it smooth, smoother throughout the process is having my

528
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: kids come to Atlanta and me giving them a box

529
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,239
Speaker 4: and they open it and it's a key and they're like,

530
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 4: what's this And I'm like, welcome to your house. And

531
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 4: they're like crying and like, mommy, no, Now you know,

532
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: so you're able to show them why you work so hard,

533
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 4: why you make the sacrifice, why you're doing what you're doing.

534
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 4: And you give them a house and they're happy and

535
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: they're excited, and you give them another one.

536
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and another one and yes, seventeen.

537
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: Now he's seventeen, you buy thirteen. No, I told you

538
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 4: he needs a car.

539
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: He wants the car. But I'm like, no, you're not ready.

540
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 4: When I feel like you're ready, then I buy you

541
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: a car. He wants the car because he thinks I

542
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: can afford it. But I said, no, you got to

543
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 4: show me that you're prepared. I'm not going to buy you.

544
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: A car because I can't afford to. And then you

545
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: go up to the street and gonna crash.

546
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: Laugh people, No, no, you're not ready. Does he know

547
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: what kind of car?

548
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: He went?

549
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 1: Says he told you? He told me about this ugly car.

550
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: What's the name of the tesla?

551
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 2: No, not the cyber. She don't know.

552
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 4: But she told me about this ugly car that looks

553
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 4: like the police car conger Krangla.

554
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, wrangler.

555
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: Okay that it feels like a safe car too.

556
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: It's ugly.

557
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: I won't buy it, but okay, but good luck? Ready ready,

558
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: all right? And so listen, we went through all of these.

559
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: So what do you see for yourself in the future,

560
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: like as far as love and hip hop? And I

561
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: feel like that is a good show for you. It's

562
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: a good platform for you. Some people you know have

563
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: it different. Yeah, but for you, what are you seeing

564
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: as your future there? Because, like I said, as I

565
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: was watching the show, there's some episodes where I felt

566
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: like she might be ready to quit this and I

567
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: feel like there have been times when you probably were like,

568
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back to this.

569
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: There have been times, I mean, Carly put me in

570
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 4: that situation. Yeah, because she was a friend of mine.

571
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 4: It wasn't nothing for the show. It was real hurt,

572
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 4: real pain, someone that I poured into a lot, like

573
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: I really love this person, and so when I was

574
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: showing my anger, people didn't understand it. But that was

575
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: because it's coming from a real place where I take

576
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: you for a friend, to the point of a sister

577
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: where I would, you know, do anything for you.

578
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: So I was very hurt through that situation.

579
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: But I'm over that. I'm not in that space anymore.

580
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: I'm in a better place. But looking back sometimes I'm like,

581
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 4: m it really gets under my skin.

582
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: But you you are so sweet though when you called

583
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: her out there like she was nice.

584
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: But it's not so hard to be the person that

585
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: swallows your pride like that too. It is, and to

586
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: be the one it's like but it's a good lesson.

587
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: Especially when you know you have a little sister and

588
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: she is the one that is provoking and she pokes

589
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: the bear and does the thing.

590
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: You're looking at her.

591
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: Like you know it's you, but it's like everybody's like

592
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: a poor thing because she's always crying.

593
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: That makes it even harder.

594
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: You know.

595
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: And so what do you think about new sounds on

596
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: this new album too, because, like you said, gospel and

597
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: then we here, there's a little country and the round.

598
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 4: Round definitely have a little mix of country and danceall

599
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: and a little hip hop. I play around with a

600
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: little Afro on it as well. In one of the songs,

601
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: I'm speaking a little bit of like Indian okay, Spanish

602
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: as well, So it's gonna be well rounded.

603
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

604
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: Way hold on, is it gonna be some type of

605
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: reggae tone collab or something like that? Is a reggae collab,

606
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: not a reggae ton Okay, Oh my god, it's a

607
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: very exciting project.

608
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm excited for it.

609
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Well good, I'm happy and being independent. Now what was

610
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: that process like for you? Doing this whole album? Was

611
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: executive producing it yourself?

612
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: It was hard, very difficult putting it together. Not gonna

613
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: take all the credit. Karen young Wa call him Levitates.

614
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 4: He's like the composer. He built all the beats for

615
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: this project, which I was super excited for because I

616
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: was able to sit beside him and say this is

617
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 4: what I want. I want this like this, let's do that.

618
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 4: You give me some song. It wasn't too good. I'm like,

619
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: you're sleeping, Let's do this again. It was very fun

620
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: putting it together. Red Boom Super mixed, he mixed and

621
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 4: mastered all the songs, and all of them was recorded

622
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 4: at Ireland Studio, same place at Jamaica. So I did

623
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 4: it at home in the comfort at Jamaica, and it

624
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: was just very fun knowing that I'm able to choose

625
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: the sound and the songs. I wrote everything by myself

626
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: and I'm producing, you know. So it's fun.

627
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, do they ever tell you space we need

628
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: you to date somebody on the show?

629
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 4: Me?

630
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: What I did on that show?

631
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: There's nobody. Do they ever say bring someone? Like?

632
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: They always want to know about my dating life, But

633
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 4: I feel like keeping that a secret, Like, let's just

634
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 4: something I got too much going on. Let's work with

635
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 4: the too much that I got going on. Because the

636
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: man ain't it, They're not it. I feel like my person.

637
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: Is that barn yet it's not around. He's not around.

638
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm not bonn yet.

639
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna date somebody, definitely, younger than me because my.

640
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: Twenty five years. You'll get it.

641
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 4: I feel so because my person he's not around him,

642
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: not bonn yet.

643
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: These new men for real, she's laughing. That's true. This

644
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: new man is not it.

645
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like Madonna ship not that bad, not

646
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: that bad.

647
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: But are you dating Angela?

648
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice to flipt this on me, because that's good.

649
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: The last time you said you wasn't. It's so nice

650
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: you know a person. Yes, yes, and we're the boss

651
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: girls out in the streets. It is man, ain't it?

652
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: And plus you kind of like being outside. Somebody has

653
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: to have a lot of confidence to day to honestly

654
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: like that. They do because they know you're going to

655
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: be on tour, they know you're going to be filming this.

656
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna get mad over the things that are happening.

657
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: You know on the show. People have had a lot

658
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: of egotistics. They're gonna have to take pictures. People are

659
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna come up and they're gonna be yo, bro, you.

660
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: Take the cup. They're going to gatistic cup thing that

661
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: I was talking about.

662
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: So it is true.

663
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: People got to be Anybody that's gonna date me have

664
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Speaker 4: to be strong and they got to be a man.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not going to be able to teach you

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Speaker 4: to be a man. You have to have that within you.

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Speaker 4: A lot of times people say.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let the man be a man. How do I

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Speaker 2: make you be a man?

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Speaker 4: You have to have that self confidence within you because

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Speaker 4: if you come around me and people are giving you

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Speaker 4: the phone to take my picture, how do I control that?

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Speaker 2: If that's gonna make you feel small?

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Speaker 4: If you come around me and you come into my

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Speaker 4: house and my closet is bigger than your bedroom.

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Speaker 2: How do I make you feel better? I make you know.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of things that comes with Dayton strong woman.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be somebody very specific, somebody who could

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Speaker 1: be supportive and not like getting a fight with you

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Speaker 1: right when you're about to leave and go do something.

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Speaker 3: Important and yeah and all of that and.

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Speaker 1: All of that all right, Well, leg I hope that

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Speaker 1: when he's born, you know, by the time he's twenty

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Speaker 1: five years old, you're gonna be, you know, just like

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Speaker 1: you look in the twenty eighty.

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Speaker 3: Five te videos. Well again, Spice, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I do always love having you on and you know

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Speaker 1: I'm always such a big fan.

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Speaker 3: Thank you too, by the way, thanks for having me

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Speaker 2: Way up