WEBVTT - Crowdsourcing Your Marriage with Natasha Leggero

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. Hi, Hello Chelsea. If you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, I'm on my way to Tampa, Florida for

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<v Speaker 1>two shows tonight in Tampa, Florida. And if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to it and you want to come tomorrow night, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Fort Myers. Friday night and Saturday night I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>Daytona Beach, and Sunday night I'm in Hollywood, Florida. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is five shows this weekend. Holy fo sky Doodle.

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<v Speaker 1>Tickets are available a Chelsea Handler dot com. So whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are left in that state, I'm coming and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the last leg of my tour and then my

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<v Speaker 1>special ist airing. It's official December Netflix everybody. It's called Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so exciting. I know. I'm so happy, Chelsea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. Ah yeah, we love Netflix. Netflix in Chill.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done five shows in a few months. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to figure out what my alcohol game

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<v Speaker 1>plan is because I'm on a pre holiday buzz. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to get some of those patches, those pre

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<v Speaker 1>drinking patches. Oh yeah, I tried the awake ones, those

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<v Speaker 1>patches that we're supposed to give you. Buzz I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like that worked a little bit. I like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>like an awake thing that's not caffeine. Yeah, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't respond well to caffeine. Plus, I

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<v Speaker 1>take etcetera a lot in the morning when I wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of my coffee. It's a great habit. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys might want to pick that up. Okay, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening from your health guru, Dr Chelsea Handler Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to have to take so much Exceedrian, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to get headaches, like almost every single day. Really, I

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<v Speaker 1>did some cleans stuff to like detox if I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>detoxification baths really helped with that. What are those so

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<v Speaker 1>you get in a bath like as yeah, ep, some

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<v Speaker 1>salt sometimes some activated charcoal and a little lavender with

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<v Speaker 1>an end at the end or an end some some

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought it was ex on salt. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a follow up, okay, great, yeah, okay, Well

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<v Speaker 1>this is from Courtney. Oh I wish Courtney with a C.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was following up after our Mushrooms and Majorca

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<v Speaker 1>episode about the caller Lisa, who was thinking about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>moving to New York and having a new adventure at forty,

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<v Speaker 1>and she says, Hi, I'm listening to the Mushrooms in

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<v Speaker 1>mayorka episode and just heard the caller Lisa talk about

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<v Speaker 1>making the leap and moving to NYC. I came to

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<v Speaker 1>NYC from San Francisco six years ago for what was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be three months, and I never left. I

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<v Speaker 1>found a great community here, especially during the pandemic, and

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love the freedom, energy culture, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the bars and restaurants. As I was listening to Lisa's concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I should offer to connect two main reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a professional, single, child free forty two year old

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<v Speaker 1>with great contacts here and would love to help her

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<v Speaker 1>settle in. I've moved around on my own a lot

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<v Speaker 1>l A, Chicago, s F, d C, n y C,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be daunting but also rewarding, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>rewarding when surrounded by good people too. I also travel

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, and if she wants to try NYC

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<v Speaker 1>on for size, she can stay in my place for free.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's willing to watch my adorable dog Cheat, feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to pass along my email to her, which I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to help her explore NYC options. Love your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Chelsea, and you always make me feel better for

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<v Speaker 1>being independent, strong and single. You also gave me hope

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<v Speaker 1>for finding true love. Dating has been a defeating process

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and you remind me to stay open while

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<v Speaker 1>also continually working to better myself. Thank you both for

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<v Speaker 1>the weekly company. Courtney, what autie. That's sweet? I just

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<v Speaker 1>love it. We get emails back sometimes based on callers

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<v Speaker 1>who have called in or emails saying I can help

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<v Speaker 1>with this or I can connect them with someone, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is just so lovely. There's actually a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a community. This sweet. That's really lovely. Thank you Courtney,

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<v Speaker 1>and think with the C I appreciate that. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Chelsea, listeners are the best listeners. I know they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really nice. Everyone's so nice, and everyone's so well kempt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Welcomed with an M. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Yeah, okay, So our special guest today is

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<v Speaker 1>my very dear old friend. She is the host of

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<v Speaker 1>the Endless Honeymoon podcast, which she hosts with her husband

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<v Speaker 1>Mosha Kasher, and her book, which is now out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called The World Deserves My Children and It's So funny. Actress, comedian,

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<v Speaker 1>and author Natasha la Jarro. I tel, Oh, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>how happy am I to be talking about this book

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<v Speaker 1>that is finally coming out. You helped me every step

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. I couldn't find a title. You gave

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<v Speaker 1>me great advice. You you helped me because you're natural

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<v Speaker 1>book writer and you're a voracious reader. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you deserve all this book success. Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>so hard for me, Like I hated it. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you deserve the success too, when it's hard work, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me like two and a half years, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, was not the kind of writing I

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<v Speaker 1>was used to doing. And someone gave me the advice

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<v Speaker 1>that it's more like an accordion, you know, Like so

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<v Speaker 1>if I have a story as a stand up like

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<v Speaker 1>this punchy thing where I'm trying to get right to

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<v Speaker 1>the joke, where the book is like spreading it out

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about it from all these different ways. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was very taxing but very rewarding. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the best things about when comedians write books,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's like stand up you know. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first book I ever wrote. I sent it

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<v Speaker 1>to my manager who's no longer my manager because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't keepe a relationship going. And he was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>write just like you talk, and I was like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that like an aside, like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. And then as I learned, going through

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<v Speaker 1>the writing process so many times with so many different editors,

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<v Speaker 1>that is your biggest strength is writing like you talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Because stand ups are writers. That's what we do is

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<v Speaker 1>we write what we say. So to put that into

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<v Speaker 1>a book, I understand the accordion kind of analogy. Also

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<v Speaker 1>because you do have to you know, you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>be writing jokes, jokes, jokes, jokes, of course, but also

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<v Speaker 1>as a comedian, our caliber of jokes is a little

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<v Speaker 1>higher than the average person writing a book no offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like they're funnier. Your books are funny. A

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<v Speaker 1>comedian books are always funnier, and you can get them

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<v Speaker 1>on audio and listen to them, you know. And this

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<v Speaker 1>book is called The World Deserves My Children, and which

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<v Speaker 1>is a fucking awesome title. And I want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you guys that I have read a lot of parenting books.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ask me fucking why. I don't know why actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm just curious about what I read What to

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<v Speaker 1>Expect When You when You're Expecting because it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I just because I want to know what everyone's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want I draw the line at watching the Housewives.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't watch the Housewives. That's one thing I can

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<v Speaker 1>miss out about that everyone's doing. But yeah, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is the funniest parenting book that you will read. It

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<v Speaker 1>is so funny. It made me laugh out loud. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on a plane. I mean I picked it up

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<v Speaker 1>to read a couple of chapters and I finished the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing on a plane ride because it's so good. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm really psyched for people to read this

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<v Speaker 1>because every fucking parent can relate to so much of

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<v Speaker 1>this ship. And if you're not a parent, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be so grateful that you didn't have children when you

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<v Speaker 1>read this, because even if you're not a parent, this

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<v Speaker 1>is worth three eating. It's just so fucking funny. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way you talk about Mosha, which is her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you listen to her podcast, you can hear

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<v Speaker 1>both her and her husband. It's called the Endless Honeymoon Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>where she and her husband basically just bitch and moan

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<v Speaker 1>to each other about each other. No, I try to

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<v Speaker 1>use the podcast well we also, you know, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>people's secrets and give some advice. But I also use

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<v Speaker 1>it as a way to hijack him with issues I

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<v Speaker 1>have with him, and then we can sort of crowdsource

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<v Speaker 1>it and I always win, right often. Yeah, And in

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<v Speaker 1>the book, you go after him in a very very

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<v Speaker 1>funny way. And I remember I was texting with you

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<v Speaker 1>and You're like, is it too harsh? And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, but and and the at the end, you

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<v Speaker 1>give him a platform to actually he talks about his

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<v Speaker 1>experience parenting because he thinks he knows everything. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think being a mother is all about?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think being a father is all about?

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<v Speaker 1>And he really actually learned from our conversation. I did too.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a good illustration of who he

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<v Speaker 1>is is that you know, his kind of character, that

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<v Speaker 1>he's in charge of more of the fun because it

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<v Speaker 1>has been an issue because I feel like I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be this person like you, full of Juada viv

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<v Speaker 1>and would go to Africa to drop of a hat

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, yeah, sure, pump vaccines up and down

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<v Speaker 1>my arms and go to Thailand and river rafting without

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<v Speaker 1>a helmet, and now I'm like completely paralyzed with fear

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate it and I want to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to like pre motherhood Natasha, but I've changed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just sort of like grappling with that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and and trying to get back to just

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<v Speaker 1>parentings degrading Chelsea. It's you know what, it feels demoralizing.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember in a good way that I bet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I remember coming over to your house one day it

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<v Speaker 1>was pouring rain and I went over on a whim

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason. We were texting. I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>can come over right now, and I drove over a

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<v Speaker 1>house and I met your baby for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>and we were in the playroom, and I remember just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing your life how it had transformed like this baby.

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<v Speaker 1>If she walked, you know, Natasha had to walk after her.

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<v Speaker 1>If she walked out of the room, Natasha had to

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<v Speaker 1>walk out of the room. If it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like that age where you can't leave them alone

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<v Speaker 1>for two seconds. And I remember just going, oh, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a total life change. Did you pity

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit? I did? I felt sorry for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like, oh, this is because I I

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<v Speaker 1>just always related to myself and if I were in

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<v Speaker 1>that situation and I just would not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. But kids love you because I've seen you

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<v Speaker 1>around kids and you're like a magnet. Well sometimes sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>all your nieces and nephews like well, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>love me for different reasons. You know, I do like

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<v Speaker 1>kids when they have something to offer. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>mostly just sucking from your life for but in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that you're happy for, I guess. So tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about when you became a parent. Tell me about your

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<v Speaker 1>relationships with your friends that aren't parents. Did those change

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Did you find yourself becoming friends with more

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<v Speaker 1>people that had children or closer to those? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I don't know, it's really hard having

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<v Speaker 1>an only child because I'm I'm a little overactively trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure she has some deep connections with some

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<v Speaker 1>people I don't know, Like she doesn't have cousins, she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have brothers and sisters. So my friends, I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with my friends who have kids than her

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<v Speaker 1>friends who have her friends and her friends because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know these people and I'm used to hanging around

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest people in the world. So you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard sometimes to be like and moms can

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<v Speaker 1>be very judgmental. But to answer your question, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the funk I'm doing. I mean, oh am,

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<v Speaker 1>I still friends with people, I don't. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have no friends. I don't know. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic was just sort of this, See you did it right.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably still like had a small group of people

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. I was so excited to spend time by myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I just because I had just come out of therapy

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<v Speaker 1>and that was my big thing, was that I never

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<v Speaker 1>spent time alone. And he just kept inculcating that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to spend time alone. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I've got out of therapy. And I treated

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<v Speaker 1>it like I was getting a master's degree in psychology,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I took the pandemic and I read every book

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<v Speaker 1>that I had looked at before and hadn't read. I

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<v Speaker 1>read every self help book, every psychological book that I

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<v Speaker 1>could like that would speak to what I was experiencing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just treated it like I was going to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting my master's degree. And I fucking loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had such a blast with myself. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I doing around all these people all the

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<v Speaker 1>time when I'm the fucking fun one. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>took lots of mushrooms. And I mean, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, it would have been a much different story.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me a little bit about you and Mosha.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about your relationship a lot in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>How it's changed since you've become parents. Are you still

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<v Speaker 1>able to laugh as often as you did before you

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<v Speaker 1>had a child? Well, it's just harder because there's like

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<v Speaker 1>so much you're doing your your life become so busy

0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.559
<v Speaker 1>and you're picking up now after two people, and that

0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.920
<v Speaker 1>can kind of get to you, you know. But yeah, no,

0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.320
<v Speaker 1>we laugh. We do laugh. It's a different kind of laugh.

0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like we laugh more with when the kids there.

0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like performative, you know. But sometimes I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I'm modeling like a nice, fun

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<v Speaker 1>relationship for her, because it's like you can't just always

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<v Speaker 1>be like we need this time when it this end motion.

0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I like half the week her lunches from Starbucks because

0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I have to pack her a lunch every day, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm always out of what I need, so I

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<v Speaker 1>like just have Starbucks little snack packs. It's just hard.

0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten shamed at the school because, like I packed

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<v Speaker 1>my brother's lunches, so I would just like put him

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<v Speaker 1>in a brown paper bag and send him off to school.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was little, I was in charge of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that when she was in preschool and the

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<v Speaker 1>teacher came up to me and she was like, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, the kids all have these Bento boxes.

0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And she showed me and she opened it. I swear

0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:54.679
<v Speaker 1>to god, it had rice steak, a vegetable like these mothers.

0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.600
<v Speaker 1>The kid had steak. I'm not kidding. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>other reason, it's not of children to deal with those

0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking gools and that bullshit and the other mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>every kid had it. So I'm like, Okay, it's probably

0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.520
<v Speaker 1>better for the environment to not use like all the

0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.880
<v Speaker 1>little plastic bags. But still, it's like, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of so much about parenting presupposes that you

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing else to do in your life but parents,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm busy, so it's challenging. And how

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<v Speaker 1>has it affected your ability with like with stand up?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you able to perform as much as you

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<v Speaker 1>did before. No, I feel like this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make everyone not want to have a kid, because it

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<v Speaker 1>actually has affected my stand up in a bad way.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why she's like a fountain of comedy

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<v Speaker 1>and like so much stuff. And it's like it's everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I think about and talk about, not everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>so much of it. And then the other day she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, mom I don't like it when you tell

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<v Speaker 1>people things I said, because I was just telling a

0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.920
<v Speaker 1>friend something she said because she was like, Mommy, when

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemics over, can we wear any kind of mask

0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.880
<v Speaker 1>we want? You know? Like, so it's like things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She hears me telling some and she's like, don't repeat

0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.800
<v Speaker 1>things that I say. And then I'm like, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that that's what I do for a living.

0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.880
<v Speaker 1>But she's gonna be twelve, look at a Netflix special,

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<v Speaker 1>and then never talk to me again. So I'm like,

0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do a special now, and I'm

0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:18.040
<v Speaker 1>just gonna try to milk it. I guess live until

0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.320
<v Speaker 1>until she yeah, until she knows, and then I'll pivot it.

0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's hard. Well, I want to respect her,

0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.560
<v Speaker 1>do you, Well? I want I have one kid. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want her to hate me when she's twelve. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like that's just a thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>say as a little kid. It is your life experience.

0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.720
<v Speaker 1>You can talk about your life experience. You're not giving away.

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not so personal. It's almost just like she's having

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<v Speaker 1>an idea that you're telling her stories and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it for this moment. That's going to change too, Right,

0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But I have this joke where I'm screaming that she

0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>wants caviare to Black Lives Matter rally and and like

0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that didn't exactly happen. It's like a culmination. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>even your more more of it out because you're like,

0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not even true stories, I'm making them up. But

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<v Speaker 1>then what happens when she's twelve and she's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>violated my I mean, who knows what kids will be

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<v Speaker 1>like then? I mean they all hate you at twelve. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Yeah, I definitely hated my mom

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<v Speaker 1>from twelve to seventeen. Yeah. Yeah, twelve to seventeen is

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<v Speaker 1>a very hateful time because you're so pissed about what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening to your body and your hormonal, Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>was fucking crazy from twelve to seventeen, and anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>was a girl. And if you, well, you were a

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<v Speaker 1>responsible kid. Actually I mean you took care of your

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<v Speaker 1>whole family. Yeah, only if you if you only knew

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<v Speaker 1>when you were a preteen, what was going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to your body when you turn like fifty, Like you

0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.280
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be so mad And what's happening like when you're

0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it's the hormones. But yeah, it's definitely hard, but I

0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.080
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you it makes me so happy. I see,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's like weird about it. I know I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell and you can tell that in the book to

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<v Speaker 1>talking about all of the things that are stressful about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but while also supplementing that with all of the because

0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I always ask my friends is it worth it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what are the moments that makes it so worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because when I see my friend's parents, it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like chaos. It's like getting lunch is ready, getting everyone

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<v Speaker 1>ready for school, braiding their hair, da da da, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, where are the aha moments that everyone

0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>talks about? Well, I did one thing because I felt

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<v Speaker 1>the same as you, and I made a decision to

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<v Speaker 1>have one child. I don't want to be a referee.

0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to deal with more than one child.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like, but isn't most just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a child? He is, It's true, but I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we can like go to Japan or go I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little more mobile, you know, it's portable. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like I felt this a lot during the pandemic,

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.200
<v Speaker 1>but like she was just this angel who didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who Trump was and just being in the presence, it

0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just felt like a higher being. Also, she's like, really good.

0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with a problem child, so he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ruined our family. So you could also have a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But it just really feels like this

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<v Speaker 1>like angelic thing and everything's new to them, and anything

0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.399
<v Speaker 1>you tell them they have never heard of before. Like

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<v Speaker 1>her biggest problem, Like the other night she was like

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<v Speaker 1>crying and bed. I'm like, what's wrong, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stop thinking about cotton candy, Like that's her

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<v Speaker 1>biggest problem. Like it's just very precious. Yeah, I guess

0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I can see that because it is it is angelic.

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<v Speaker 1>It is un They're like unbe smirched, right, They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been ruined yet by the world, and they haven't been jaded,

0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and they're just it's like brand new brains. Do you

0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're molding a personality? I try so hard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like like Mosha was

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<v Speaker 1>so mad the other night because last night was Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>and we really wanted her to be a zombies with

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<v Speaker 1>this like cool like princess costume, but a zombie. And

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<v Speaker 1>then she put on the zombie makeup and then she

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.680
<v Speaker 1>looks in the mirror and she's like, I hated, I hated.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be a princess mermaid. So she

0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.920
<v Speaker 1>takes off all the makeup and then just wants to

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<v Speaker 1>put on a crown and this like very generic Disney

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<v Speaker 1>costume that she wore last year, and I think Mosha

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<v Speaker 1>was just like very upset about He was like really

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<v Speaker 1>fighting her on it, and then finally he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you just take over? I need I need to

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.119
<v Speaker 1>take a break, like and he's like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why this is making me so mad, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>he just wants her to be cool and unique, and

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of her is like this Disney princess. The

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<v Speaker 1>second year in a row is really upsetting to him

0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.479
<v Speaker 1>because he wants this like hip child. But it's like

0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you can only do so much, you know. The girl

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to be a freaking mermaid, princess basic as aerial.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but you just I guess my job.

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<v Speaker 1>What my mom did for me, She like put me

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<v Speaker 1>in so many extracurricular activities that finally one day I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up in a theater class and that really started

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<v Speaker 1>my life, you know. And I feel like that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of our jobs in a way, is to try to

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<v Speaker 1>what about your swim career? Though it was well, but

0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that was she would compete in swimming and then come

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<v Speaker 1>in like dead lass I was, I have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing of yellow ribbons. Swimming was kind of participate. But

0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 1>guess what, I never drowned. I mean that's actually pretty

0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you get a ribbon for not drowning? Well? I

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.840
<v Speaker 1>mean I actually want to get my kid into swimming

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>for the same reason because my husband's always wanted to

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.199
<v Speaker 1>take her surfing, and I'm like, no, she should be

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.159
<v Speaker 1>like the best swimmer she can possibly be. So I

0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.399
<v Speaker 1>guess that's the thing is to guide them, try to

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 1>show them something that could be their passion, but try

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<v Speaker 1>to also not make them be an actor or communic

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would not let her be a child actor.

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.280
<v Speaker 1>That just feels wow. I don't think so. I mean,

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think anybody said, everybody says that that's in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once they turn eighteen, it's like with two

0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 1>parents who are entertainers, Like what else is gonna happen?

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.120
<v Speaker 1>They're going to become an accountant, you know, like that's

0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 1>what happens. I want her to be an environmental scientist,

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.720
<v Speaker 1>talked down about it, be like environmental science is the worst.

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:57.439
<v Speaker 1>That's a hilarious idea. Do you how do you do? You?

0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 1>In Mosha fight a lot about parenting style else, Well,

0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the problem with you know, raising a child with a

0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.959
<v Speaker 1>man is that or you know, a partner in general,

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.679
<v Speaker 1>but this specifically man is really rough. And it's just

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>like we just you know, when you're with someone, you

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.679
<v Speaker 1>get together because you guys share a worldview. So like

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 1>all the big things we were very aligned on, you know,

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that's how you're able to stay with someone. But then

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.639
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the minutia of parenting is what

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.919
<v Speaker 1>we started fighting about. Like he's like, she needs sunlight

0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, she needs her head protected. No, she

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>needs sunlight, no head protect you know. And then we're

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<v Speaker 1>just like taking going on a walk and taking her

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<v Speaker 1>hat on and off, and it's like then we're in

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>a fight, you know. Or we go camping and he

0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>wants her to be experiencing the flame closer in her

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 1>pack and play and I'm like, no, let's move it back.

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.919
<v Speaker 1>This thing's flamm it says flammable on the side. And

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.879
<v Speaker 1>so we'll be at a campground moving like when she

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 1>was a little baby, moving it back and forth, and

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just like those you know, it's like the same

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>fight over and over. Is like I'm trying to protect her.

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to like let her have this amazing adventure,

0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and so we're trying to get a handle on that.

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing as in a relationship without kids,

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you have one thing that you fight about all that

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.679
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing. It just keeps coming up in

0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.400
<v Speaker 1>different ways, you know. So it's it takes a lot

0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of dedication to your relationship. I mean, let's face it,

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>if there's no kid, you're kind of out after a while, right,

0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.800
<v Speaker 1>moving on to the next one. At least that's how

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I've always been. But you guys are married, but the

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>kid makes you Yeah, it's sure, I've never been married before,

0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 1>but the kid really makes you like, how are we

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 1>going to make this work? Yeah? Yeah, maybe that's why.

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you should cut that out. You can keep it's

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.399
<v Speaker 1>just so cool. That's why I married him too. He

0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.119
<v Speaker 1>was like when we started getting together, we're both doing

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a stand up and I was like, do you mind

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<v Speaker 1>if I say that on stage? You know, make fun

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<v Speaker 1>of you. He's like, oh, you can say whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want on stage. I did not care at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, thank you. Is that just because he

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<v Speaker 1>wants license to do the same or he's not really

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I think it is just confident. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>like he knows it's a joke, and as opposed to

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.439
<v Speaker 1>guys like being like oh why did you say that

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and getting all dramatic and then you've got to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with them, and which is a lot of comics. To

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, a lot of male comedians are very sensitive egos,

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<v Speaker 1>very fragile it, which is always a turn on. Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get enough of this stuff. How is your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with your mom changed since you've had a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a sad subject because, um, well it's

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the pandemic. My mom is just I

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 1>think there's a certain sect of person who is just

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<v Speaker 1>completely terrified. They watch MSNBC all day long. They're afraid

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of COVID, they're afraid of everything, and they're just not

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<v Speaker 1>able to be mobile in their life. I guess, but

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we did. So she's seen her a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, But I think that it was so crazy

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>because you never really know when you have a kid

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.160
<v Speaker 1>who's going to be the good grandparents, because you can

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be like my husband's mom moved

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>here to be close to our child. Little did I

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>know it was to be close to Mosha. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>like always wanting to come over to hang out with Mosha,

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, could you watch the kid? Hello. She's deaf,

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>so she's very into her technology. So she's always got

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<v Speaker 1>like a Fannie pack with two phones and I pad

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<v Speaker 1>around her neck. You know, she's got chords wrapped around her.

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>She's very like tech tech person. So maybe maybe it's

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>hard for her to communicate with with my kid because

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't speak. I'm trying to teach her sign language,

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's very hard. Well, this that's a perfect

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for her to teach her sign, Like that's what

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought. Yeah, I know, it's weird. Grandparents are weird.

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>She lives three blocks away. I mean it's it's it

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>boggles my mind. And so she over there every single day.

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Mosha goes there like twice a week to have like

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<v Speaker 1>tea and dinner and then we all hang out once

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<v Speaker 1>a week. That was something I learned in therapy. The

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>therapist was like, I think once a week is good

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>for his family. He wants to spend more time and

0:23:57.720 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that works out good. But I really do like them.

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's just challenging because I thought it

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>would be a built in babysitter. But it's okay. I

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's loving. Do you have somebody that helps you,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>like a nanny or a baby it's well, now she's

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in school, so I did have a nanny. But the

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>real hard part is before school starts. I mean you're

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like alone with them all day long doing chores. It's

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty intense. Chelsea. I don't think you're ever going to

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>do this. No, I'm not. I'm forty seven. Where is

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>my baby going to come out of? I mean, what

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>over age yours is great? Forever? Is it? Maybe I

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>can house a baby just gonna be a stir ogay

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>for somebody else. Yeah, I'm amazed by anybody who's a parent.

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I just beem amazed by it. It's just so hard.

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>It's so hard to remain patient and be gentle and

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>loving to someone who is requiring all of your attention. Yeah,

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>And also, like when you're in the prime of your

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.399
<v Speaker 1>life and then you're having this child, it's it's a

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a different situation than when our parents

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>had us, you know. I feel like and this IVF

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>has really afforded women like two extra decades to like

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<v Speaker 1>have their career, make some money, have fun, party, try

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>out different partners. You know. I think all that pressure

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to like have the babies in your thirties is really

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>stressful because like guys suck and it's hard to find

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>someone who could be a good partner. And to me,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that was really important. So I'm so grateful to IVF

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and that it's this thing that our parents weren't able

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to do that we're able to do and just start

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>our families a little later. Yeah, that's a good point.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It gives people a lot more foundation so that you

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>are more independent by the time you have a kid,

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.479
<v Speaker 1>so speak, earning years are like what forties, thirties, forties,

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>But if you fifties maybe, I hope. But if you

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have a young kid, it's rough. That's why I'm so jealous.

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>People like Reese Witherspoon's got like an adult child. She's

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the same age as me, but like her child like seven, No,

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>not that old, but you know, like I think it's

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like now, I'm like, it's hard keeping up the energy sometimes,

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, but it also probably gives you

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy totally because you have to like

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to be there. Can't just like fucking cop out.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why you got to have a partner. Yeah, and

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>some extra nightqual for the baby. Um, we're gonna take callers,

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and people are going to call in for advice. I'm

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>assuming on the subject of parenting. We've got some parenting stuff.

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>We've got some marriage. Marital questions are my favorite, some

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship stuff. Let's try it. I mean, I feel like

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm too honest. That's what you need to be. These

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>people all need to kick in the ass. Usually they

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>want a kick. Most It gets mad at me because

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I tell so many people to break up, But I

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>just feel like I don't know. I mean, sometimes you

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>can just sense it. But we'll see, we'll see what

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>we got. Yeah. Yeah, Well we'll take a quick break

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be right back and we're back. We're back. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first question is about parenting and comes from tired mom.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, my four year old son has been in

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<v Speaker 1>a big boy bed for about two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>years now. When he was in his crib, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the best sleeper and never tried to get out of it. However,

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I can count on one hand the number of nights

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>he stayed in bed for the entire night over the

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>past two plus years. Every night, at some point he

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>comes running down the stairs and jumps in between my

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>husband and I in our bed. I feel like I've

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>tried everything, and many nights were so exhausted that one

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>of us just goes up and sleeps in his bed

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>with him. It's starting to really affect us. Our sleep

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>is horrible because he moves around all night or wants

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to snuggle so close it's suffocating. Any advice I love

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Sincerely tired Mom in New Hampshire. That's funny.

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>We had another emailer who went by tired Mom who

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>wrote in a couple of weeks ago, can't they just

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>put it back in the crib? Well, no, I think

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>she's saying, it's like a it's like a walking age.

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Put him back in the crib. He seemed to like

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the crib. Well, nobody, they climb out of the crib

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and they'll believe me. This is very hard. First of all,

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I have three elderly chawas. I

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>can't get out of my bed so and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting and I don't even know how. I don't know

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>how this happened. I know it really is. I have.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been changing the sheets like every other day and

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's very hard. But to answer the question, I mean,

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I did something that's probably people think is wrong. But

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<v Speaker 1>like she had, we had a lock on her door,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think she knew that she could come

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>out of the room until she was like four, But

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think she didn't know that that was

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>an option. No, maybe three, And then she slowly was

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 1>like oh, because it's like you can get them on

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Amazon and like she's safe. We have a monitor, but

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like you know, when she could start walking up because

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>she was she was a very early climber out of

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the crib or you know. Like so now she's just

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>on a bed, and but she definitely comes into the room.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>One thing you can do is you can wake them

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>up at like midnight and have them pee, because then

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to pee at like four am. So

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>then if you can control because I think that's what's

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>waking them up a lot of times is peeing. So

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that's something. And then the other thing is you just

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>have to be really strict about it. Like he said, Chelsea,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you just have to say you have to go back

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to your room. It's kind of like the same thing

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>with the dog. You can train the dogs to not

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>sleep in your bed. It just takes energy and work.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But um inconsistency and consistency. But if you can like

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>put one of those little Amazon like the door knob

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>holders like that worked for us until she was three,

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and then she does get into our bed a lot,

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>but usually it's around seven am now, and so that's

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>about what it sounds like with this four year old

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>though that since he's already been out of his door.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>If you put a lock on his door, he's gonna

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna have to just be consistent about taking

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>him back upstairs and explaining to him that he's no lot,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>he's too big to sleep with you. Guys, he can't

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>sleep with you anymore. You know. It's crazy though. That's

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>why it's so fun to hear Chelsea's version of it,

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, yes, that's right, but then why is

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>my kid coming in my bed every night? Because you're right,

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just because they're so tired in the middle of

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the night and it's upstairs. The idea of bringing him

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>back up there is too annoying, and they have to

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>go do it and like do it every single time,

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and then eventually he just gets the message. I mean,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like training a dog. I have a friend who

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>will like tell kids, and we've done this before to like,

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>if you can do seven nights of not coming into

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the room, you can like get this present. And my

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>friend actually bought his kid and Incanto Lego lego set

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and showed it to her and was like, you can

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>have this the carrot seven days if we cross out

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>every day. But then there's other forms that you know,

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>other mothers on Instagram or like don't bribe your children,

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>gives a funk with anybody, whatever the fuck you can

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>do to get your kid to sleep in their beds.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Yeah, and they take enough energy

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>as it is if you're not sleeping on top of that,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like it's over exactly, and like you know, it's it's

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it's better because I remember I knew a kid who

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>was like seven or eight and slept with his mom,

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and it seemed weird. You don't you know that that's

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>going to come up before you know it. Also, if

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you do choose not the carrot version of bribery but

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the stick version, there's gonna be like what's the difference,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Oh, Like carrot is the like put the

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>carrot in front of the donkey to get it to go,

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>versus like hitting it with a stick. Obviously not hitting

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>kids with sticks. But I think you're gonna have like

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>some terrible nights if you just get really strict about it,

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like you said, but it will quickly pass. It's you know,

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, it's like your first week at the

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>gym when you haven't gone in five years, Like it's

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>not fun, but you're gonna you're gonna be happy that

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you made those in roads. I have one more thing

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to say too. I had. I had this revelation because

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it is like, my kid is so cute. It's so

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>hard to say no to her. She's so excited about

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>any kind of like she hasn't tasted every sweet, so

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>she tastes something and she's like, this is blowing my mind.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, it's so fun to give them stuff.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And I was watching the Amy Winehouse documentary and her

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>mom and it was a very tragic story obviously, and

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>her I remember her mom said I could never say

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>no to Amy, and I remember thinking like, this is

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what's this is what could happen if I can't say

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>no to her because it is so hard. So I'm

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>actually trying, almost as a religio in to say no

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.479
<v Speaker 1>to her because she's just like, Mom, can I have this? Please? Please?

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Can I have it? In this many minutes? And then

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>she'll blink her eyes and I'm just like, this is

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like impossible. And then it doesn't hurt me to give

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>her something or give her the extra things she wants.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's just like a vibe. I don't know, it's

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a culture, and I don't think you want to create

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>a culture where the kid is like ruling your life.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. I totally get that. There's someone in my life.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>The kids are in college now, but they had this

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of parental situation where like mom and dad weren't

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>getting along anymore, and they wound up divorcing, and like

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>one of them decided to join the military and the

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>other one converted to Catholicism even though no one in

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>their family is Catholic, And it was like, what's going

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>on there? And we kind of realized they just really

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>had a desire for some structure in their lives and

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>some boundaries that they didn't get growing up. Whether or

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>not they realize that's what they're doing, it kind of

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>seems like that. It's so true. It's like you crave

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>boundaries and structure. Like when I grew up, I don't

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>think anyone ever said no to me either, and I

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>was so spoiled and so entitled. And remember my grandmother

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to my mom, going, she's so spoiled, and I

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, so what that's good? You know, like I'm

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>living my best life. But when I grew up, I

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>had no structure as an adult, Like I still don't

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have structure. The only structure I have, like when I

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>did Chelsea Lately, I had. The structure of the show

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>was the structure that I had never had my whole life.

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I had people constantly having to know where I

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>was when I was coming in, when I was going

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to arrive for this, and I felt like I was

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>being parented for the very first time at my own

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>talk show because everyone had to know where I was.

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And I remember like drawing that correlation, and I was like, Oh,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why that worked out for me, because finally I

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>had somewhere to be. Like even now, I'm so like,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, structure list, Like if I don't have anything

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to do all day, I could easily find myself in

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>bed from like you know, noon to five watching TV.

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You'd be reading, though you sometimes sometimes I read, but

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I don't. Sometimes I'm just like, funk, no one

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>needs me today. I could do where the funk I want. Yes,

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I was outside in my back yard. I'm in this

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>rental house. I was outside reading a book and then

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like I looked over at the little stand

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>or the little table next to the chair I was in,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and I saw joints and I was like, oh, I'll

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>smoke a joint. And I was like, I guess I'll

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>take that. And then I was thinking, look at you,

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>your fucking asshole, Like I just see an idea and

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I could do that. You know, there's no

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>structure and there never will be in my life because

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not like that. But you had a bunch

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 1>of brothers and sisters, right, I didn't. They didn't provide structure.

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>They didn't take away from people saying yes to you know,

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>they did too because they were just like and I

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>was so loud and obnoxious that they just wanted me

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>to shut up. I remember once my my mom and

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>my brother Roy were in our living room and I

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>would throw tantrums if I didn't get what I wanted,

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just the road kick and scream like seven eight years old,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>right bang my head against the glass window and be

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like I wanted. And I remember my mom. I couldn't

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>have been even ten years old, and I remember my

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>mom going, just let her keep hitting her head. I'm

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>so sick of it, just let her and my brother goes, oh,

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and then they both walked out of the room, and

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I hit my head harder, you know.

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'll break this glass and then they'll be sorry.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing I have like any sort of normal behavior

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>at all, quite frankly, but you're such a successful person,

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's okay to maybe. I mean, that's the thing.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like nobody knows what's right. You just have to

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of go with your instincts. And I do feel

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like having an only child and like sometimes, you know,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting her shoes and socks on, and motion is

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to brush her hair, and we're like it is

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>everything okay, And then she's bawling and you're like, what's

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>wrong and she's like pine cones to nature ee and

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh can I can I switch it out

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>for you a different pine. So it's like it's very

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's not good, Like we we have too

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 1>much energy, we have too much time for just her,

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Like there's not like nine kids dispersing it, or even

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>two kids or whatever. So I just feel like you

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have to really watch yourself and make sure that they

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>aren't becoming like totally tyrants, I suppose. But that being said,

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a very cute thought of Chelsea screaming for what

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>she wants. I will crack my skull against this window

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>if I don't get strawberry shortcake. All yeah. I was

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>telling the story the other night on stage. I was like,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I used to go I used to have like Turette's

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>for like a year. I think I was auditioning Tourette's.

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>And I would go behind. My dad would, being a

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>lazy boy, would sit in the couch in the in

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a living room watching the stock market all day long

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>for what. I don't know, because he had no money

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in the stock market, and but like remember that scroll

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom of the TV, like NASDAC or whatever.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>And he would watch it and I would stand behind

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>him and I would just be like fuck pussy, cunt ship, motherfucker,

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>fuck fuck shit, and my mom my dad like Chelsea,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>what are you saying right now? And I'm like nothing,

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>And then my mom he'd like rita, my mom, and

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like Rida, she's doing it again, and my mom like, sweetie,

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't talk like that. I'm like, I didn't say anything.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And then I'd be like fuck, motherfucker. Cut liquor sticks.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like Psycho, and I was like, that's Taurette's No,

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a female comedian in the making. I think

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I remember Sarah's the Women saying that that's when she knew,

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>like she would be at the grocery store saying swear

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 1>words to people like in the in the little car.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, it's a very female funny woman person.

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you spoken to Sarah recently? She had her tonsils removed,

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's almost like she has been lobotomized. She is

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's been recuperating for like two weeks, and she's

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I don't know what. I can't talk, well,

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>she can, but it's just brutal, like what happens when

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>tonsils are taking I told her, I'm like, I got

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>my tonsils out and I went for a jog that night,

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and she marco poloed me and she's like, I don't

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>know what kind of jog he went on, but I've

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>been in bed for two weeks. And I was like, oh,

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe I met my wisdom teeth. Maybe I got my

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>wisdom teeth removed, not my tonsils. Does everyone get there?

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>But it does sound like a real common procedure. Yeah,

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's but it's big, it's invasive, and you're really

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>like because you have stitches in your throat. I'll check

0:37:55.440 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>on her. You got carried away with person stories. Our

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>next color is Regina and she'll join us as well.

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>To your Chelsea, I'm a thirty six year old lesbian

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>writing to you from Los Angeles, California. I've been at

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my company for fourteen years and absolutely love my job.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>In March of this year, a twenty seven year old

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>coworker of mine who had been at the company for

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>one year, began flirting with me. I flirted back because

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>it was fun and seemed harmless at first, since she

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>had to live in girlfriend of two years. We've been

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>friends since she came to the company, and I did

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>not see her as someone who would ultimately cheat. Well.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>After about two months of flirting, feelings began to surface,

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.879
<v Speaker 1>and we subsequently slept together by May. Since that first time,

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>our feelings for each other have continued to become more intense.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>We've grown incredibly close, continue to have sex as often

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>as possible, and now we are in love with each other.

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>While she has told her girlfriend that she isn't happy

0:38:55.080 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>in their relationship. Her girlfriend has no idea girlfriend us.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>She still has no idea her partner is having an affair,

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and she does not have a plan when it comes

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to how to resolve the situation. She can't make up

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>her mind of what she wants to do. I have

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>no interest in going out and dating other people, and

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>while I know I shouldn't wait around for her to

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>figure out what she wants, I find myself feeling stuck

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and doing just that. Because we work so closely together,

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>ending the affair seems almost impossible. Given the fact that

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I see her most hours of the day. I'm really

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>at a loss as to what to do. I want

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to be with her, but I don't want to wait

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>around hoping she'll pick me. Any advice you have would

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>be so appreciated. Regina, Hi, Regina Hi, Hi. Natasha la

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Jaros here today as our special guests. Hi. Hi, Okay, Well,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>hot and heavy and lesbian love affairs. I love it.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have some news for you. Yeah, she's

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a cheater, right, I mean, this is someone who is

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>capable of being pretty too faced and a liar, and

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I would be very cautious about because, you know, if

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just about her casually dating someone else and

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>needing to pick you. That's a different story. That's a

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a hey, you know what, I have feelings for you.

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to be with you. Let me know what

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>you want to do. But this is a little this

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>is too much for me to have you have this

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>other person. But I wouldn't want to be in a

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>relationship with someone who's that deceitful. But how long have

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys been having an affair since May? It's about

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>six months? Yeah, I mean I think that's enough time.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I understand, people cheat, people have relationships and stuff.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not ideal, but it happens all the time. I've

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>had experiences with people that have been in relationships. I mean,

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 1>actually once, not more than once, because I didn't want

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to repeat that. I don't want to make that a habit,

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you don't either. But I think that's

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>enough time. You've established that you're in love with her.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>She's probably established the same thing. You feel that way.

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand you see her every day and that very difficult,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but I think out of respect for yourself, you really

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>have to like draw the line in the sand and say, okay,

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 1>we've experimented with this. It's been six months. That's been

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>plenty of time for you to unravel your past relationship.

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>We all understand breaking up is difficult, but the way

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that you see it's like it's just too deceitful. You

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>can't be a part of this anymore. You can't be

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>a participant in somebody who's lying to their spouse. I mean,

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>even if they're not married, they're in a relationship and

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>she is actively lying and you are too because of it.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.919
<v Speaker 1>And you're not so weak that you can't control yourself.

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You may think that, but that's not true. You can

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>control yourself. And I think laying down a boundary is

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>going to bring everything to the surface, because if she's

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>going to leave this woman, she will. Then if you're like,

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not participating in this anymore, I can't have good

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 1>mind have an affair with somebody that's in a relationship.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Either you want to be with me, and if you

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be with me, that's fine, but I'm

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>not doing this anymore. You know. I think you have

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to really stand up for yourself and stand up for

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>that other woman too, because is you would never want

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>this to happen to anyone, and it's karmically. It's just

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>so bad to participating this kind of ship. And you

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>said you work together. Yeah, that's an issue because you

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 1>really need some space from her and she's breaking up

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>with a long term partner is not easy, and so

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>it's something that you guys kind of need your individual

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>space for. So I would maybe try to look and

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>see how how you could achieve that. I don't know

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the particular situation, but you can't be like breaking up

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>with your lover and then see them every day at work.

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's so hard. That's why they say, don't

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>do that exactly right, And I mean I I certainly

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't intend for it to get to the place that

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it's now gotten to, but it is where we are.

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 1>And I agree that I have initiated a stopping of this,

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.399
<v Speaker 1>like let's take a break so you can figure this out.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>And I have trouble with boundaries anyways, But when it

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to seeing her day in and day out, it

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I like what you said, Chelsea, it feels impossible, but

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I know that it's not. It just it feels that way. No,

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna also have a lot more to respect for

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself when you stand up and say like, I'm sorry,

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.760
<v Speaker 1>but this is kind of beneath both of us because

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it is that's a good way to say it. But

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't then fuck her. She just did the astex motion,

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah. I think like when you make statements

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and proclamations like what I'm telling you to do, you

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>really have to stand behind them. If I'm in a

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>relationship with somebody and I say something, I I didn't

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>always do this, but I in my adult life, I

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>mean it. There are boundaries and there are behaviors that

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>are beneath me, and I won't participate in that, and

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I won't let anyone treat me in a way that

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like that I'm as excellent as I am,

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>which is how you should see yourself. Do you have

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 1>like a break coming up? Because I think it can

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>really help to just like completely cut off contact if possible,

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>for like even two weeks or something. So, So what's

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>what's really helpful and falls in with good timing here

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>is that I'm going to South America tomorrow for eleven days. Great,

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>there you go, and I you don't want to talk

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to her while while you're there, So I think you

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>need to have this conversation with her before you go.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Let her know you're gonna take a little time to yourself.

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>You're not happy with things how they are. You don't

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>want to keep being deceitful. It doesn't sit right with you.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>So if she wants to continue with you, she's going

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to have to like talk to her person and change

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the situation and ask her maybe to not contact you.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that time? Yeah, I'm down

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>with that, but I'm just so the job situation. Katherine

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>told me what you did. Is there any possibility of

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you changing that job situation and getting a job elsewhere

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>or well? Yeah, I mean I I put in the

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in the email that you know, she's worked here for

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>about a year and a half. I've been here fourteen years,

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I've really like earned my tenure here

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in my career and it's curtainly not a position that

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.919
<v Speaker 1>I favored to have to leave, right But I think

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that it probably falls more in the line of something

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that she could do, but it's not in the cards

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>in the immediate future. I mean, I I'm certainly not

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 1>going to give up what I have with my career

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>for Okay, yeah, then that's then that's settled. Then you

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have to you've been there for a long time. Absolutely,

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 1>But you're stronger than you think, So I think I

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>think you should have this conversation with her today and

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>mean it. You know what I mean, and mean it. Obviously,

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>when we break up with somebody, we vacillate, we miss them.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.919
<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh, well, maybe if I do this, they'll

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>finally see the light. Or maybe if I if they

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>see me one more time or talk to me one

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>more time, it's like, no, no, just act in honor

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and with honor, and I'm sure what's supposed to happen

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. And she obviously needs one last

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>push to get rid of that relationship. It's obviously not

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>working for her either. It's probably not sexually working for her.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>It might be working for her in other ways, but

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>she's clearly getting her sex from you. And I'll have

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:48.399
<v Speaker 1>sex with you if you want it, but don't forget

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to tell her all the things you really like about her.

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>If you do think that you guys could have a

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 1>future together, you don't want to just be like scolding her. No, no, no, no.

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a very adult way, just like two part ways.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just in an adult way, like I'm so sorry,

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>but just use that language. This is beneath both of us,

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not I'm not cool with it anymore. So

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I need my space. I would like to, you know,

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.720
<v Speaker 1>just move on and if you want to come back,

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, if you're going to break up, then

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>we have something to talk about. Otherwise we don't. That's great.

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And I have one more thing to add to it

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that I think could really help, because I have a

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of success with scripts because like I can get

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like talked into things really easily, and so I find

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>if I make a phone call it's best and I

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>write down what I want to say for these really

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>important conversations sometimes if it makes sense for it to

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>not be in person, and just like you can just

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>keep referencing it and repeating it, you know, and then

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you can just kind of say you have to go,

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>because then they can't pull you into like the thing

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that Chelsea said, this has beneath you can just keep

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>repeating it in different ways, and like then it's not

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>in person and you forget what you're thinking and they

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>get you off track and then they start sucking right,

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no chance of your fucking if you're not if

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you're on the phone and when that's and that's was

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>one of the comments I was going to make, is that,

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the two times that I've said let's stop,

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like to you know, to give it her a break

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and take some time, I really meant it in the moment, right,

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I really felt that way in that moment. And whatever

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>time passes by a day or two and I see

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>her at work and I'm like, well, fuck, I don't

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:18.839
<v Speaker 1>feel that way anymore. You know, I'm not I don't

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>feel so like angry about it or and I just

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of like fall back in Well, you've thought about

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it a little more deeply now, and you know that

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.359
<v Speaker 1>it's not sitting well with you because more time has

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>passed and more deceit and more you know that it's

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>horrible for someone to be lying to their partner, you know,

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's happened to me, It's happened to probably most people.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But it is like the most horrifying feeling to know

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that someone's like fucking someone else when they're with you

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and not telling you. It's really it's really awful. And

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you raised a really good point right at

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, Natasha as well, like if you were to

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 1>be the one who she picked, is there ever a

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>point that you would be thinking, who is she out

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>there fucking? Like? Who is she out there cheating on me? With? Right?

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I don't think everyone who cheats on

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>their spouse is a lifelong cheater, like or their partner.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I think certain people fall in love and then

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>they find the right person. I don't think they're always

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't define people in that way. So

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to feel hopeless that she's not

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a possibility if she does the right thing now. But yeah,

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff is stuff to consider. And you

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>know you've already attempted to break up with her a

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, Like now you can do it, so

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you know that the writing is on the wall, and

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like you're strong enough to do it, and you're gonna

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 1>feel dignified about it. You're right, Chelsea, I've cheated on

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.479
<v Speaker 1>people before. Yeah, but I'm not a cheater, right right, Well,

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that's right, fair, I mean same here. Yeah, just one

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.839
<v Speaker 1>final question though, if I if I have that conversation

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>which I plan on having, tomorrow because my flights tomorrow night,

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and I just as we talked about, I'll write the

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>script out do all those things. Can I have sex

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>with her one more time? No? Oh, you can master

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 1>bait like this is a test for you, and you

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>need to fucking follow up with us now that you

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just said that, you need to follow up with us

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>in one month. No more sex. You're stronger than sex.

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Sex is whatever. You can go funk people in South America.

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are you talking about. There are people

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>everywhere to have sex with. It's just really but don't

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>say it's just really really good. It's not worth it anymore.

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>You had enough sex with her? That's enough, Jesus. Can

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I have sex with her one more time? There's the

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>title of this episode. Anyway, have fun in South America.

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>No more pussy pounding until you get there. Okay, and

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>just wait and I probably I bet you it's gonna

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 1>all work out exactly the way you want it, by

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>being strong, not by being weak. And download whatever the

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 1>grinder app is in South America. Yes, the women are

0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>hot down there. Yeah that's true. That's a good point. Yeah,

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>good luck, honey, all right, thank you so much. Follow

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 1>up with us in a month. I want to hear

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:10.720
<v Speaker 1>what happens. Okay, okay, okay, thanks. That was a good reminder, Chelsea.

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>People aren't always cheaters. I guess I was, but I

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>just mean, like, if you're the person cheating with them, like,

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I would get past thinking like

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>who are they out? You know, it's I think people

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>can change, but I just think I used to be

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>so jealous of like hot Nanny's hot people coming over,

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and then the pandemic happened and I was just like,

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>take him, come on, like this will make my life easier,

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you can. I used to like try to wear cute outfits,

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 1>not like I don't want to look too sexy. Oh no,

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>this is see through from Uh. Well, let's take a

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>We're back. Well, this is the part of the show,

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:04.959
<v Speaker 1>Natasha where I would like to know if you have

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.399
<v Speaker 1>any advice you'd like to get from Chelsea. Do would

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you like some parenting advice? Well, I know that we're similar,

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like we both like nice things, you know. I take

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>pride in my things. I like my house a certain way,

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's a thing of the past. Pretty much. However,

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to nag my husband, so and I've

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>already told him like twice. So I have these like

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>beautiful towels that have my name on them that I

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>had monogrammed because like that's just special to me. I

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.399
<v Speaker 1>like old Hollywood, Like I thought it was cool. He

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>when he leaves the bedroom, we're supposed to put a

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>peepad out for the dogs. He's been using my monogrammed

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 1>towels but laying them out, like all spread out, so

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that's where they pee. They're white, they say Natasha on them.

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I've already told him once and I'm like, please, don't

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>use those towels. He's like, cool, so they don't be

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 1>on the wood floor and I'm like no, And so

0:51:58.040 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>then he did it again. And I know if I

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>say some thing, but like what would you do? You would?

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that appalling? Yeah? It's sucking appalling. I mean honestly,

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I fucking screamed at him, like what what doesn't mean?

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>What's well? No, I mean not about a towel, but

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what doesn't he get about the situation? How much?

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to be more clear than that?

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Why is he using those towels, and don't you guys

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.799
<v Speaker 1>use pepads. We have pepads. He has a d D,

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>so he thinks he's like killing it because he remembers.

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Does he take adderall? No, you think he needs that? Yeah,

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone get him on adderall. There's a pill for every solution.

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Every problem, there's a pill solution. No. I think if

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.439
<v Speaker 1>people have a d D and they're not actively trying

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to d program the a d D, then yeah, they

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>should be on adderall because it fucking makes you focus.

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>But so deep program I mean yeah, but that's like

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>meditation and you know, like you have to really focus.

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I had really bad a d D and I do

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>not have it anymore. Really, yes, I have gotten rid

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>of it, really yeah, with a lot of men titation

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and concentration. Like I put my phone away, I read,

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I sometimes it comes back in. But I

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 1>used to be in the middle of conversations and just

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>be like, what is happening right now? You know what

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean? My mind would be off in a million

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>different directions, and I'm not like that anymore. Would you

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like lose your phone and be scatter brained? I always

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I was a hot mess, for sure, because like he

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>never has his credit card, he never has his light. Everything.

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a chaos that I'm enveloped in and it's very hard.

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>And can you just put those towels somewhere where he

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>can't find them? I mean they are I'd like to

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>keep them in the bathroom, right, but I guess I

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>could get a safe or you or you could just

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 1>put nice little post it notes on them saying do

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<v Speaker 1>not touch these. Yeah, I know it's it's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like and then you want to get nice things for them,

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<v Speaker 1>for these guys, and it's like they don't deserve, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't appreciate nice towels, and he doesn't care. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>use those to clean up the dog pist? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it wasn't even leaving. It wasn't even to clean

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<v Speaker 1>up the dog pist. It was he was laying it

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<v Speaker 1>out as a nice little thing for the dogs to

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<v Speaker 1>deficate on. But yeah, it's the a d D. And

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<v Speaker 1>it does keep coming back in all these different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>A d D is so annoying to be around. It's

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<v Speaker 1>any I know that I thought it was cute, and

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<v Speaker 1>then once we had the kid, it became something a

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<v Speaker 1>little less manageable. You should have him try and adderall.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's like terrible to say, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>such a good solution. Like my friend's dad is on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he I go, what's it like if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>take it? He's like, I can't focus on anything. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. I go to the store and

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<v Speaker 1>I forget where I'm going. I get distracted with this

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<v Speaker 1>and then i'll talk to you a person. I forget

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<v Speaker 1>what I have to do. He's like, my whole life

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<v Speaker 1>is different, Like on my quality of life, I'm able

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<v Speaker 1>to like go from A to B to C two D.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I had no idea you could live like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So for people who have serious A D D, adderall

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, that's what kids take or riddle in,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what you have. But yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good solution. But he's sober, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that's an issue, so we can't take out of all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I did have a boyfriend once who sober,

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<v Speaker 1>and he acted like when his adderall came, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like he was snorting it and it was like he

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<v Speaker 1>had adderall for thirty days, but like the twenty feet

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<v Speaker 1>day he was out of it, he'd start freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>Most is not like that, but yeah, who knows. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. A lot of people think it's gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>dull their creativity, and I find that to be a

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<v Speaker 1>misnomer too, or a fallacy. I should say, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people say that and then they take it and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, no, you're much better this way. But yeah,

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you're right. It's definitely suddictive because people use it to party.

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he should start doing cocaine, or maybe you should

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah, I mean, is there a possibility of you

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of the marriage. I'm taking my towels with me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I hope he answered your towel question, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I know we did it. No, I know, it was

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like a I wanted you to know

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happens. It was like barely a question for advice,

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<v Speaker 1>because there really isn't anything you can do except pity

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 1>me and be glad that I'm not in that situation.

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 1>But the world would deserve your children. Thank you. The

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>world deserves my children is Natasha la Jarrow's book. Order one,

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 1>or go to an independent bookstore and buy one. Support

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<v Speaker 1>independent bookstores, or order one from Amazon, whatever floats your boat.

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But please get this book because it's so fucking funny. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it comes out in November. Fifteen, comes out in November,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be on a tour. I'm going to Philly, Boston, Nashville, Denver, Chicago,

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and my homeland, Maria. What is that, Natasha la dot com?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that where people can tickets? Okay, all right, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Natasha. It's always a pleasure to be around you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you you too. I'm so excited. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>winding up my stand up tour. Vaccinated and Horning is

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<v Speaker 1>coming to a screeching halt at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I have my last dates coming up, and these are

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the last opportunities. You have to also buy merch from

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<v Speaker 1>the website Chelsea Hammler dot com. If you want Vaccinating

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<v Speaker 1>Horny Captain's hats, let's say where the Captain's now for

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.240
<v Speaker 1>women only? Our t shirts for men in your family

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<v Speaker 1>that say I'm sorry because they should be. I only

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>have a few dates left. Two shows in Tampa, a

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<v Speaker 1>show in Fort Myers, Florida, Daytona Beach, Hollywood, Florida, Concord,

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<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, Wooster Mass, Wilkes Berry, Pennsylvania, Wilke's Berry, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>There I said it, and then San Diego and Riverside, California,

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and then Baltimore, Maryland, and then my very last date

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is December six in Reading, Pennsylvania. If you are enjoying

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