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Speaker 1: Laurie Anne Gibson during this podcast, I call it therapy

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Speaker 1: in very many ways, because Lorianne shared so many wonderful

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Speaker 1: Lorianne Gibson is one of the most important pop culture

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Speaker 1: constantly fighting that sensitivity? Yes, I was not sexy enough.

428
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I talked about it in the book. I was not.

429
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, why can't I just be with the cool kids?

430
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: They always laugh at me, you know, like I was

431
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: always laughed at with all my artists. And the problem

432
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: was I never let it change me. But did it

433
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: hurt me? Yes? Human, And in that hurt I understood

434
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: how to understand it and why was I feeling it?

435
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: Because I was lacking the clarity of why it was

436
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: my superpower? Why was it your superpower? Because I need

437
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: to be that sensitive to everything that's truthful about a

438
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: process when working with creative people vision as a filmmaker,

439
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: as a director, you've got to be sensitive to every

440
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: element because the choice you can make in a moment

441
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: will be what will impact a world to do evil

442
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: or what will impact the world to do good. Mhm,

443
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: it's only two choices. So many questions because yeah, I'm

444
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: thinking about how what you're saying, especially as a black woman,

445
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: is giving life to so many. We are often told

446
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: what we are not, and you explain so eloquently that

447
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: those are our gifts, and they are seen as threatening.

448
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Our gifts are seen as a threaten. If you don't

449
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: dance their dance, if you don't let it sit in

450
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: your spirit and you take over, you will be able

451
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: to do the work you do. Yeah, it's a It's

452
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: an incredible place where what I thought you should do

453
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: or how you should behave is not at all what's happening.

454
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: And then the fact that I need the knowledge that

455
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: you carry makes me feel some type of way, I'm

456
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: less of who I thought I was. Now you're battle

457
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: someone else's issues. But you do have to learn to

458
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: dance your dance, and that's what that is. And I

459
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: teach you how to dance to a rhythm that will

460
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: get you through it, around it, over it, past it.

461
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: I look at you, and I'm not getting personal, but

462
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I am getting personal. For queens like us, it's so

463
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: hard to be in a room and really identify our

464
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: king or queen whomever. Is It hard for you to

465
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: find a mate that can receive everything that you give

466
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: and understand it. Yes, I mean that's probably where I

467
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: will cry or shout it. See, I'm just because I

468
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: am a woman. Yeah, I am definitely ah in the

469
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: clarity of I don't fit into the traditional idea of

470
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: what a woman should be or do. Right. I just

471
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: realized and recently got out of a relationship. I'm not

472
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: going to have your food ready in the microwave. I

473
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: might not even like prep meal prep. I have no kids.

474
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: My dreams are my my children. I do have a dog,

475
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: and I have amazing nephews, but I don't personally have

476
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: any children. I don't feel bad about that. You know,

477
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: God has given me what I need to endure. Uh

478
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I'm curious to find out who that

479
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: is and who that could be. I've had a couple

480
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: of loves, you know, definitely a couple of loves, and

481
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: now I'm dating a younger guy, which is kind of

482
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: amazing and exciting. But I also understand what not to

483
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: expect or how not to um have any expectations from

484
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: that in the department of do more than I need

485
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: to do. But it's hard. I mean, you know, most

486
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: men think they're gonna come home with me and I'm

487
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna be like five six. Then they said down five seven.

488
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: They eat now. And when I come out of the

489
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: pink elephant suit, I have pink hair, but that's what

490
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: I call it. I'm actually quite quiet and demure, so

491
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: that then scaled them. Listen. I was like, you're not

492
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: about to get the TV lady to talk sports. I don't.

493
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you what stats are today. Okay, that's

494
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: not what I'm doing. I find it so difficult, not difficult.

495
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even putting that in my spirit. I do

496
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: know that when we have an image and we date,

497
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: it's difficult. I mean it's difficult to be the strong

498
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: queens we are. Have you mastered that? Or do you

499
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: want to be married? Do you want to eventually have

500
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: a soul made forever partner? Don't need a title, but

501
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: do you want that? Is that what your heart desires?

502
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't want it by the standards of how they

503
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: tell me I'm supposed to have it. I want to

504
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: rule and inspire and dominate the way I'm meant to reign.

505
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: And I do understand the man that will understand the

506
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: purpose in my being will understand how to war with me.

507
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: And he's obviously a very strong, confident individual, and we

508
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: call them kings, but they are purpose driven men that

509
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: understand how to stand beside ah, a person that is

510
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily living their life by a self absorbed design um.

511
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: And I also know that I am quite capable of

512
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: being independent and that doesn't scare me because there is

513
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: no shortage of gorgeous hot young men that intimately I

514
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: can receive what I need. Yeah, go ahead and talk

515
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, intimately get my socks blown off, and

516
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: that opens up what I need and gives me the

517
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: confidence to go, uh huh, do what I'm here to do.

518
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: And he's amazing. So I don't know why I got

519
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: to carry someone's out his load and be heavy when

520
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I can intimately in and intimately what it was intimately

521
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: a yes, what I need to be who I am.

522
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: So I have understood that about me. Do am I

523
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: telling anybody else to do it? No? But I'm inspiring

524
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: people out of that confusion where all I can't find

525
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: a man strong enough. You are strong enough. You are

526
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: part of a generation that's here to shift the narrative.

527
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to change our dance. We're the generation

528
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: that's shifting the idea of the limitations that the world

529
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: has put on black women. So we're gonna look different.

530
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: We might not have the baby carriage, the ring the night.

531
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: We might not We might be sitting eye to eye

532
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: with every type of men right and having our intimate

533
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: life neatly typed at home where it should be or

534
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: where it needs to operate. But we don't have to

535
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: bring our man out. You know, you don't need to

536
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: know what I do intimately, and you will not know

537
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: because I don't be telling thery. It's my business. Go ahead,

538
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: go And it has nothing to do with your purpose,

539
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: but it is and it is beautiful and it is amazing,

540
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: and those closest to you will get to partake in

541
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: who you are intimately. But if your purpose is about

542
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: driving something forward, then it's okay to identify with what

543
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, I have a confession. Yes, I hate,

544
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: not even hate. I don't hate. Let me take that back.

545
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't like when people ask me about my personal

546
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: life because it almost feels as if because of who

547
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: I am, I'm supposed to have a man like, how

548
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: are you all of this without this? Something's wrong with you?

549
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Listening to you talk about where you are makes me

550
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: feel and I truly believe you are comfortable with or without. Yes,

551
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: we want somebody, but if if that's not the case,

552
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't define me. I'm still battling with answering that

553
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: question because it shouldn't make me feel any type of way.

554
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: And I know many of my friends in the same position,

555
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: mighty strong, moving, feel some type of way like that's

556
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: the one area they wish that they could figure out.

557
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: What is your advice or how have you gotten to

558
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: the point where you're comfortable. Look, I talked about I

559
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: talked about finding your team, finding your tribe. You cannot

560
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: be friends with the women that are like girl, I

561
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm scared to go out the door. My name is

562
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: defined by someone else's name. My worth is in the

563
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: man that I'm dating, My financial situation is in the

564
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: man that I'm dating. That is all good for out.

565
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: But as gorgeous and confident, as ridiculously amazing as you are,

566
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: it's not that we're good without them, because that's obvious.

567
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: It's that we're good period. We're great, period. Open yourself

568
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: to what do I need intimately at what time? It

569
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be forever. It doesn't have to fit

570
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: into this version of someone else's design or dance. You

571
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: have to get into the knowledge of just how great

572
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: you are and received that and understand that what you

573
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: need intimately as a woman does not come in the

574
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: package where it's processed like everybody else's version. And it's

575
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: not that it can't be a multi Balti billionaire, trillionaire

576
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: on islands. You probably need someone who's as focused as you.

577
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: But what people do is not who they are. People

578
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: do is not who they are. But more importantly, what

579
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: I receive is that I'm good with or without, and

580
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: I have to be content with a little and a lot.

581
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: That was this food from my soul. I had to

582
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: ask that a question, because of course, I'm sure people

583
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: will get you and think, what's going on with you personally?

584
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Why do we do that? Why do we look at

585
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: somebody as big as you are and as accomplished as

586
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: you are and ask you about your personal life? What

587
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: do you think that's about. I think it's a search

588
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: for camaraderie, identifiability. Uh. There's a natural, innate instinct to

589
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: receive inspiration from each other. But man has just twisted

590
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: that thing and turned it into jealousy or envy, or

591
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I can't get that or I don't look like that,

592
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: because there in lies the power of everything else. Right,

593
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: what we're selling, what we're not selling, the knowledge of self,

594
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: the lack of fulfillment. Oh there's not room enough for everyone.

595
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: Oh I'm here and you're not. It's that oppressive mentality

596
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: that obviously we could go deeper. We don't have you,

597
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: but if not, if we're guys, you've got to choose

598
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: to shift that and override the system. You've got to

599
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: reprogram your own algorithm. It makes so much sense to

600
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: me why this is the first time I've ever met you,

601
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: but of course I've watched you and then we have

602
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: a few connections like no, of no, of no. But

603
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: it makes so much sense to me now that I've

604
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: talked to you and I see you. Why your career

605
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: has been what it has been in terms of its longevity.

606
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: There is a inedibility for you to redefine, pivot, figure

607
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: it out, move forward, and that gives you that longevity.

608
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Looking ahead, what else is for you? What's next for you?

609
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: What do you see happening or what would you want

610
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: to happen career for you? Career wise, I mean, I'm

611
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: so excited about having ownership and obviously it's so I've

612
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: sold uh two television shows that are dance based, and

613
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: it's so excited about having the ability to exercise myself

614
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: at my full capacity as a creative visionary, UM and

615
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: impact those collaborations with obviously film directing great some great

616
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: new artists I've excited about coming out. We're gonna I'm

617
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna dominate again in the pop area with a superstar

618
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: that I'm very excited about. Um, obviously some reality TV

619
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to dominate there with the inspiration and the creativity.

620
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: But um, just breaking some of these barriers that you know,

621
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: it's just the black boys that can collaborate on the

622
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: levels that yes, now they have the opportunity unity too,

623
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: and we love it, you know. But there's also some

624
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: women and we're seeing that in all areas that are

625
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: really defining what the next move will be creatively in

626
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: film and television, and I'm excited to be one of those. So, um,

627
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of really cool. Dance Your Dance Eight Steps

628
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: to Unleash your Passion and Live your Dream. I totally

629
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: get why that is the name of the book that

630
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: was therapy. It's always wonderful when people take their platform,

631
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: use it for good and share what they've learned with others.

632
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: That is the best way that I can summarize what

633
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: I was able to do today with Lorianne, more so

634
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: what she was able to give me. Um. She's learned

635
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: a lot, and I am grateful that she came on

636
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: this podcast to share it. I'm going back to my

637
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: naked equality for her, which is her spirituality. Some people

638
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: can experience life uh and not know how to share it.

639
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: And what really resonated for me, and the reason why

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Speaker 1: I spoke to her her spirit and she spoke to

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Speaker 1: my spirit was the fact that she said, just do you.

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Speaker 1: No one is going to say, oh, I see her

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Speaker 1: bitterness or her block it, or her this or her that.

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Speaker 1: First of all, first and foremost, wait, let me just

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Speaker 1: start from the top three to one. Dance your dance

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Speaker 1: eight steps to unleash your passion and live your dream.

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Speaker 1: The book came out earlier this year. I really think

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Speaker 1: everyone should go out and get it. UM. It's always

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Speaker 1: a blessing when someone can actually take their platform, learn

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Speaker 1: lessons from that platform, become more with that platform, and

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Speaker 1: then turn around and share it with the world because

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Speaker 1: of that platform. To me, that is the wind for

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Speaker 1: all of us here, which is why you guys should

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Speaker 1: go out and get her book. Lori Anne, thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking the time, uh to talk to me, to

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Speaker 1: give me a little more understanding, to help me dance

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Speaker 1: my own dance, and stop and more importantly, stop telling

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Speaker 1: me people. God can't tell me I can't dance because

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Speaker 1: Lorianne said I can. Don't listen to that narrative. Change

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Speaker 1: the narrative. So many gems. I literally hope you guys

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Speaker 1: had a pen and paper, and if not, go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to this while you're working out or while

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Speaker 1: you're driving home or whatever the heck you're doing. Um again,

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Speaker 1: Lorianne Gibson, thank you. I have to wrap up some

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Speaker 1: things though, ah and I wanted to make some notes here.

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Speaker 1: Last week, I well, two weeks ago, I talked about

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Speaker 1: my Lakers and I said we was gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know we didn't make it. Last week on when

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Speaker 1: on Roy's podcast Worrywood Jr. I couldn't really describe it

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Speaker 1: because I was a heavy podcast, but I want to

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Speaker 1: get into it. I was wrong. I hate to admit

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I'm low key depressed and that's it. That's

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Speaker 1: all I got. I don't have anything else. Um, y'all

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Speaker 1: make me sick. Everybody who's talking a bad about the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: I hope you can hear my bitterness and blockage. It's

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Speaker 1: sad that I just got that lesson from Lourie Anne,

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Speaker 1: but I'm giving it back to y'all. Y'all make me sick, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but it's all love. Here we naked, I heard. I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to work on. UM. I

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Speaker 1: will be back next week. I appreciate your time and

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this edition of Naked, with

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Speaker 1: yours truly, wil