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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the drive on the Steelers
Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shuoler and Matt Williamson with you here
Speaker 2: for the next three hours for the next few weeks,
Speaker 2: of course, at Chucknollfield on the beautiful campus of Saint
Speaker 2: Vincent College in Latrobe, Pennsylvania for Steelers Training Camp twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six. Matt, it's the same, but it's a little
Speaker 2: bit different this year.
Speaker 3: I was just saying the same thing. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 3: Usually when you know, I've done this the drive longer
Speaker 3: than you have. But we usually come on at three
Speaker 3: a training camp and there's practice going on. Nope, it's
Speaker 3: just groundskeepers out there, and there's it's kind of a
Speaker 3: ghost town at this point. There are some new developments
Speaker 3: on campus. You know, we're looking what would you call
Speaker 3: that that.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you pointed that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like a hospitality suite.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But it's it's in the end zone here to our right,
Speaker 2: and it's a it's almost like a standalone building. It
Speaker 2: is like real brick and mortar. It's not just a
Speaker 2: tent or anything.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of glass, a lot of glass.
Speaker 2: For windows for viewing, a lot of seating options there.
Speaker 2: And then there's kind of a level roof platform with
Speaker 2: with some tent coverage on top two. So I imagine that
Speaker 2: that serves well for training camp where you know you
Speaker 2: can kind of use that as.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe mister Rooney the IP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sponsors and and other you know, members of
Speaker 2: the ownership group.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like suret of the super box, like
Speaker 3: the club, the.
Speaker 2: Champions Club there in the end zone at Akrocher stadium
Speaker 2: and then I'm sure too, you know, for from Saint
Speaker 2: Vincent's perspective, I bet you being able to get up
Speaker 2: on that roof that platform there and kind of do
Speaker 2: some evaluating of practice.
Speaker 3: I wonder if from there, yeah, there all twenty two
Speaker 3: from there or something like that.
Speaker 2: But it is it is funny how that works, Matt.
Speaker 2: Every year when we come out here, there's usually something
Speaker 2: new on campus. Yeah, you know, and this year there's
Speaker 2: like a little hospitality type suite thing, uh in the
Speaker 2: end zone. There's also a brand new athletics specificity on
Speaker 2: the other side of us that was in the process
Speaker 2: of being built last year and is now complete, and
Speaker 2: it looks pretty sick Matt. Yeah, it's like a I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess, for lack of better terms, it's it's almost
Speaker 2: like a rec center that you would expect to see
Speaker 2: on a college campus.
Speaker 4: But it's brand new.
Speaker 2: It's really nice, and it's got a big indoor field
Speaker 2: that I'm sure with the weather that we get out
Speaker 2: here in this region, they'll need at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and clearly the weather comes and goes here pretty quick.
Speaker 3: We talked about it a lot through the mountains and
Speaker 3: it's it's something we always have to monitor. But I
Speaker 3: really thought the Steelers as a football team got short
Speaker 3: changed on rain days quite a.
Speaker 4: Bit, especially last year.
Speaker 3: Felt like it was rough because I think their only
Speaker 3: option was basically go to the gym and do a
Speaker 3: walk through. And you and I had to go to
Speaker 3: the gym today, right, that was a experience in itself.
Speaker 4: Matt and I had to do some modeling earlier today.
Speaker 2: We did runway work, video stuff, and then they sent
Speaker 2: us over to photography. I felt like I felt like
Speaker 2: Beyonce with all the wardrobe changes and everything that they
Speaker 2: were doing there is like the Taylor Swift Eras tour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like supermodels.
Speaker 4: But I said that to you.
Speaker 2: At one point Matt and I were over in the
Speaker 2: gym earlier. That's the first time I've ever been in
Speaker 2: the gym here, and we were kind of like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could imagine why they weren't fans of having to
Speaker 2: it's a it's.
Speaker 4: A small school gymnasium.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The new facility across the way here will be much
Speaker 2: better when when weather demands that they move inside.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's always pros and cons to where you
Speaker 3: have training camp. You know, like a lot of teams
Speaker 3: just stay at their facility. They have the indoor, they have,
Speaker 3: you know, the same lockers. They don't have to move
Speaker 3: everything out here. I'm very much a proponent of coming
Speaker 3: to Saint Vincent for a lot of different reasons, and
Speaker 3: we'll talk about it through the whole time we're here,
Speaker 3: but mostly camaraderie tradition. I think that all that stuff matters,
Speaker 3: and I frankly think it helps you win football games.
Speaker 3: But I did think one of the definite cons was
Speaker 3: rain days. You could not get a ton done the
Speaker 3: last twenty thirty years. Now they're gonna go over there
Speaker 3: running routes full speed. I haven't been in it, but
Speaker 3: I assume that there's a field turf situation or I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a hundred of field and what's
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 4: Quite a hundred, but it's much bigger than the gymnasium.
Speaker 3: I mean, the indoor south side is not one hundred either.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could get a lot done. It doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be a full full field, so that's great.
Speaker 2: It is always always a lot of differences here, always
Speaker 2: a lot of moving and shaken, But the chief most
Speaker 2: amongst them, Matt, is the change in head coach.
Speaker 4: And just across the board.
Speaker 2: For the most part, there are still some familiar faces
Speaker 2: on the coaching staff, but a lot of turnover. Of course,
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy at the helm of the Steelers year after
Speaker 2: nineteen years of Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 4: So I made this reference to you.
Speaker 2: I think it was on Monday, but it almost feels
Speaker 2: like first day of school at a new school.
Speaker 3: I think that's a good way of looking at it.
Speaker 3: You said that the other day.
Speaker 2: You know that you have a report time, and here's where,
Speaker 2: here's math class and history class and gym class, and
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna have a lunch period.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a locker, and you're gonna have a locker.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have teachers write all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But it's your first time doing it in a different building,
Speaker 2: in a new school, and I know this is all
Speaker 2: the same setting. But Matt, I think really at the
Speaker 2: forefront of that is the earlier practices here that we
Speaker 2: got our first taste of today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, so I said this on Monday,
Speaker 3: But the acclamation period, I want everyone to understand, it's
Speaker 3: five practices. It's NFL mandated. This is not a Steeler decision.
Speaker 3: I mean every team, it's collectively bargained. So the first
Speaker 3: five practices of training camp are an acclamation period, which
Speaker 3: are not full full go and you not be padded.
Speaker 3: Of course they have helmets and shells on and stuff,
Speaker 3: but they do not bang around. It's a slower, more
Speaker 3: advanced than I would say mini camp and OTAs, but
Speaker 3: definitely not what you think of Joe Green out here
Speaker 3: in seventy six doing two a days, or what Tounch
Speaker 3: and Wolf are doing. You know, no air conditioning, No,
Speaker 3: not at all. So it's a little anti climatic. And
Speaker 3: why I bring that up is because we don't yet
Speaker 3: know how McCarthy and his staff are going to structure.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say the real practices, but the
Speaker 3: big dog practices, you know, once you.
Speaker 4: Knock off the rust and really go full speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now what we do know is he's practicing earlier
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. But I think some of that is
Speaker 3: to avoid the hottest parts of the day. That was
Speaker 3: a big time Tomlin thing, dressing all black and walk
Speaker 3: out here at two in the afternoon when the sun's
Speaker 3: beating on everybody, and I highly suspect and I'm trying
Speaker 3: not to like get ahead of myself because I could
Speaker 3: be wrong, because we know it's the same ownership, it's
Speaker 3: the same front office, it's the same Saint Vincent's, you know,
Speaker 3: despite the changes we mentioned. But doing a lot of
Speaker 3: homework on how McCarthy has structured his practices basically going
Speaker 3: back to his Dallas days. It's only a year removed
Speaker 3: were they're gonna be a lot lighter, you know, like
Speaker 3: I think his and there's two ways doing it. I'm
Speaker 3: sure people will be like, oh, that stinks, that's soft.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of our classic Steeler listeners are
Speaker 2: they they were not thrilled when they heard no live
Speaker 2: tackling or anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I suspect and maybe I'll be totally wrong
Speaker 3: for practices from now, but I think that he's going
Speaker 3: to be very much load management. They're all going to
Speaker 3: have their GPS trackers and when they hit a pitch count,
Speaker 3: so to speak, Okay, you've you've you've done your thing.
Speaker 3: He's already mentioned there will not be live tackling, and
Speaker 3: the Steelers were under Tomlin about it as physical as
Speaker 3: you can be, you know. I'm sure some people came
Speaker 3: out here that've been coming out for forty years watching
Speaker 3: Joe Green and Tounch of Wolf, going like, boy, these
Speaker 3: guys are soft. These guys are but compared to the
Speaker 3: thirty one other teams, Tomlin's training camps were hot, sweaty,
Speaker 3: physical and push the limits as much as you could,
Speaker 3: you know, without breaking them. I think McCarthy's gonna look
Speaker 3: at it very different, and I don't know which way's right.
Speaker 3: I mean, again, he had a saying in Dallas that
Speaker 3: you can't win the super Bowl in August, but you
Speaker 3: could lose it with injuries, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: And so I think there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be really very very injury avoidance.
Speaker 3: I don't know that we'll see backs on backers. I
Speaker 3: don't know that we'll see seven shots. I mean, I'm curious,
Speaker 3: but I expect it to be much much lighter in
Speaker 3: terms of physicality, which when you hit week sixteen or seventeen,
Speaker 3: no one's gonna think about. But you might be like, boy,
Speaker 3: this team's a lot fresher than they were the last
Speaker 3: three years. Or you might get the Week one and
Speaker 3: they doors get blown off and be like boy, they
Speaker 3: didn't do anything trading camp. What are you thinking. It's
Speaker 3: just two ways of looking at it, you know, and.
Speaker 2: You know those reactions are going to be there either way,
Speaker 2: no matter, no doubt, no matter how y. That's what
Speaker 2: that's what we do as football fans. It's such a
Speaker 2: short sample size and every game matters so much. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that to me has has really stuck out and is
Speaker 2: going to stick out here over the next what three
Speaker 2: weeks that that we'll be doing shows here at Chuck Nollfield,
Speaker 2: where I think things are going to be lighter. Uh,
Speaker 2: we know practices are going to be earlier Friday. On
Speaker 2: this on Steelers dot Com, it says Friday's practice is
Speaker 2: going to start at ten thirty in the morning, and
Speaker 2: and so, yeah, the lack of live tackling some of
Speaker 2: the drills that we're used to. But you know what, Matt,
Speaker 2: I keep coming back to this because I think there's
Speaker 2: some people that have said, hey, I don't want a
Speaker 2: playoff game, and what eight years, nine years, Let's try
Speaker 2: something different.
Speaker 3: Let's say yeah, right, all right, right, maybe you're not
Speaker 3: as fresh because you banged this whole month. There is
Speaker 3: the old school amazone doing anything either and everyone's picking
Speaker 3: them to win the Super Bowl, and everyone thinks the
Speaker 3: best coach in.
Speaker 2: The league, the old school mentality of like you got
Speaker 2: to get out here and get physical and beat each
Speaker 2: other up.
Speaker 4: Matt, you know this.
Speaker 2: I say this to you sometimes when we talk about
Speaker 2: like defensive scheme and formations and even offensive personnel, there's
Speaker 2: no right way to do it. If one proven way
Speaker 2: that this is the way, this is how you win
Speaker 2: playoff games and Super Bowls. You have light training camp,
Speaker 2: morning practices before it gets too hot.
Speaker 4: Everybody would do it that way.
Speaker 2: If it was you got to be physical, you got
Speaker 2: to be in the middle of the day. You know
Speaker 2: everybody would would would do.
Speaker 3: It that way.
Speaker 2: And you know exactly right, exactly right, and so listen. Uh,
Speaker 2: that to me is going to be very very interesting
Speaker 2: to follow over the next couple of weeks. But as
Speaker 2: you mentioned, especially when we get to this coming Monday,
Speaker 2: when when when the pads will go on, and then
Speaker 2: we'll see exactly because it's going to be physical still
Speaker 2: it's football.
Speaker 3: Course, of course. But but what as you out right
Speaker 3: and if you didn't expect changes your nuts, we think
Speaker 3: should happened totally. And I love your point. I mean, hey,
Speaker 3: they did not play their best football in the playoffs
Speaker 3: for numerous years in a row. Could this be something different?
Speaker 3: I mean, this is not the youngest roster in the
Speaker 3: league either, especially the guys you're counting on your quarterback,
Speaker 3: your two best defensive players three, maybe your three best
Speaker 3: defensive players are all well well into their thirties, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's not like Tom Win beat the crap out
Speaker 3: of Cam Hayward.
Speaker 4: He get.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it was more of the younger
Speaker 3: guys too. But I am interested to see what the
Speaker 3: results are. Maybe it won't make one bit of difference,
Speaker 3: Maybe it'll make tons of difference. Maybe we'll get into
Speaker 3: this thing two weeks from now when reporters are putting
Speaker 3: microphones in the faces of guys have been around for
Speaker 3: a long time, going well, I feel a lot better
Speaker 3: now than I did, you know, going into the first
Speaker 3: preseason game, even preseason, I don't know that they'll play
Speaker 3: their starters as much. I mean, I don't think Rogers
Speaker 3: and Cam are going to play at all. But I
Speaker 3: wonder if the queens of the world will even dress,
Speaker 3: you know, keep them safe, you know, yeah, yeah, even
Speaker 3: though they're young. One thing I did hear about McCarthy
Speaker 3: is hit. One of his huge pet peeves is he
Speaker 3: will kick guys out of practice earlier if they're on
Speaker 3: the ground too much. You know, on the ground, get
Speaker 3: stepped on, you get hurt, you twist things, you trip
Speaker 3: people up, you hurt other people. Plus especially lineman, you
Speaker 3: don't block anybody. If you're on the ground, you're not
Speaker 3: doing your job. So that's like one of his big
Speaker 3: pet peeves. So it's not like he's just going to
Speaker 3: give them all hugs and sing Kumbaya, you know, like
Speaker 3: he kicks people out of practice for doing things he
Speaker 3: doesn't like too. It's just I'm expecting a very different
Speaker 3: approach to what they do with their minutes on the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and we've talked about some of those things,
Speaker 2: like how much is going to be devoted to specialty,
Speaker 2: you know, along with the physicality element and tackling in
Speaker 2: those things, how much how much time is going to
Speaker 2: be devoted to special teams all that stuff that will
Speaker 2: be kind of peeling back here and keeping an eye
Speaker 2: on over the next few weeks. I will tell you, though, Matt,
Speaker 2: one thing that we always keep an eye on is
Speaker 2: the grounds crew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, has a project going on here for day one, for.
Speaker 2: Not the entire the entire field still looks really good.
Speaker 2: But on day one here at the fifty yard line
Speaker 2: on the main field, it looks almost like a groundhog
Speaker 2: was down there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tear and stuff. It looks like shutting. No no, no,
Speaker 4: no no, no, no, no no no. Down there at
Speaker 4: the fifty yards a story indiredible.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're working on. There's taking they
Speaker 3: get a free bowl, sup with that. They're digging big
Speaker 3: holes and replacing big, massive divots like it does look
Speaker 3: like a groundhog has a way with it. I guarantee,
Speaker 3: if we get here nine o'clock tomorrow morning, you'll never
Speaker 3: even know it's there. These guys are unbelievable. They do
Speaker 3: a great job, but they're probably I assume this is
Speaker 3: an unforeseen thing. They've only had one practice here and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden there's this big project going on
Speaker 3: well after practice.
Speaker 2: Huge Uh and and Kinger and a Max pointed it
Speaker 2: out to me when I got up here actually a
Speaker 2: little after a little after one o'clock, and uh, we're.
Speaker 4: Kind of like, man, somebody really tore up Do you see.
Speaker 2: Those those chunks in the ground there at the fifty
Speaker 2: and so yeah, the uh day one here they are.
Speaker 2: They are well into it, the ground crew in front
Speaker 2: of us. As as like Matt mentioned, it'll be a
Speaker 2: little bit different here is we're not going to be
Speaker 2: kind of right in the thick of practice as we
Speaker 2: typically are. But it'll also it could be fun in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways too, Matt, because the hay will
Speaker 2: be in the barn by the time we go on air,
Speaker 2: and so we'll kind of have all the information of
Speaker 2: the day and be able to kind of put a
Speaker 2: rap on everything, where a lot of times in.
Speaker 3: The past I want to get tomorrow on that injury
Speaker 3: or you know.
Speaker 4: Certain things like that, whereas now, hey, it'll be interesting
Speaker 4: to follow through and see how this all goes.
Speaker 3: We'll also have a lot of interviews that happened throughout
Speaker 3: the day, you know, that we can reference and play
Speaker 3: back for you guys, et cetera, et cetera too. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're the caboose now, and we're always worth at the end,
Speaker 3: but now.
Speaker 4: Practice caboose too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, And that'll be something that we'll be
Speaker 2: getting used to that we'll be figuring out as we
Speaker 2: move and shake here over these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: We're also hoping you know, uh, one of the downsides
Speaker 2: of being on here during practice was we couldn't really
Speaker 2: have guests because you know, they're all on the field
Speaker 2: and they got to get their quotes and they got
Speaker 2: to write their stories and all that. Well, they're all
Speaker 2: finishing up writing their stories by this point now down
Speaker 2: there at the Fred Rogers Center where all the media
Speaker 2: gathers and has a work room and all that good stuff,
Speaker 2: So we'll be able to pull some guests as we
Speaker 2: roll long here. We got to get back to, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, to our regular people. Matt We got a
Speaker 2: you know, Rob King and Missy Matthews.
Speaker 3: We would talk to them in a while.
Speaker 2: And Chris Halleck and Bob Labriola and all those people
Speaker 2: that we enjoy talking to will be ramping all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Up as we roll along here. It's just day one
Speaker 4: hour number.
Speaker 3: We got here last night. I got here this morning,
Speaker 3: but I've seen most of those crew, and I probably
Speaker 3: see the rest of them tonight at Sharkies.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Yeah, I saw some of them last
Speaker 4: night at Sharkies, and saw some of them this morning.
Speaker 4: One thing I'm gonna have to do a better job of.
Speaker 4: Matt is pacing myself a little bit throughout these days.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been out here since like eight o'clock
Speaker 2: and you and I have five straight hours of radio
Speaker 2: to do now because we have to go through a
Speaker 2: late show tonight too. Not as not as easy as
Speaker 2: the days of the past where you could sneak a
Speaker 2: little nap and before practice. Now practice is happening early
Speaker 2: and it's just go, go go, baby.
Speaker 3: Wes and I upgraded to the hotel so we're not
Speaker 3: in the dorms. But you gotta realize, I mean, that's
Speaker 3: the easiest drive ever. You could sneak over there, pretty easy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd get a little nappy, little nap as we roll along.
Speaker 3: Heay one, you'll figure it out.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's training camp for everybody, as we like
Speaker 2: to say. But it is a beautiful day here. There
Speaker 2: was a little bit of rain earlier today. It's kind
Speaker 2: of a nice in the seventies, little overcast, a good
Speaker 2: day to be walking around campus here.
Speaker 4: We've got plenty to get to from today's practice.
Speaker 2: We've got plenty to get to from kind of bigger
Speaker 2: picture storylines that we'll be keeping an eye on. And
Speaker 2: of course, with training camps opening across the NFL, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of league news.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of signings and stuff that's happened
Speaker 3: just since we got together Monday.
Speaker 4: On Monday, Yeah, in the last forty eight hours or so,
Speaker 4: so good things.
Speaker 3: Oh we were bad about this Monday too. No video
Speaker 3: during camp? No video dor yea yeah.
Speaker 4: Yep, Our Guy TV.
Speaker 2: He'll be putting out little promos and stuff like that
Speaker 2: on the social media. But if you if you're somebody
Speaker 2: who typically likes to, you know, see Matt and I's
Speaker 2: beautiful mugs on YouTube and watching the visual element that
Speaker 2: we'll be back here in a couple of weeks as
Speaker 2: soon as camp is over, you know, around mid to
Speaker 2: late August. We will be back simulcast on YouTube as well.
Speaker 2: But during camp, kind of tough set up here in
Speaker 2: the boots and Our Guy TV just has a million
Speaker 2: different responsibilities. Dude, have you ever seen so much video
Speaker 2: and photo equipment as they had over there in the gymnasium.
Speaker 3: The name insane, Yeah, I mean maybe we can get
Speaker 3: into that, but I didn't know what a light box was,
Speaker 3: and there was smoke coming out, and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: they got a lot going on at Jim.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that a little bit on the other
Speaker 2: side and we'll start to break down all the movement
Speaker 2: and shaking here on campus and across the other thirty
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Speaker 4: Back on campus here as we roll along on the drive,
Speaker 4: and yes we do need to just quickly. It's funny, Matt.
Speaker 2: A few people have tweeted us Annie Michael angry bike Lane.
Speaker 4: You guys are back. Are you live? Yes, we are live.
Speaker 4: We are all the way live. You've got us from
Speaker 4: three until six.
Speaker 3: Although they can listen to this anytime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 2: But you also, yeah, we'll be live three to six
Speaker 2: here every single day that there is practice and again
Speaker 2: we have a few evening shows throughout the course of
Speaker 2: these few weeks as well a lot of new stuff
Speaker 2: as we outline.
Speaker 3: It's just breaking it so good.
Speaker 4: And you know what, I've always wondered that on golf.
Speaker 3: Courses they must be the best in the world, because.
Speaker 2: You think, especially now, like in the post COVID era,
Speaker 2: golf is more popular now than it's ever been. Like
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody my age plays golf, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times, you know, like you'll go to these
Speaker 2: courses and like the t boxes and everything are immaculate,
Speaker 2: and I'm like drives off of this every single day
Speaker 2: and for weeks and weeks and weeks at a time.
Speaker 2: But now I totally get it. Man, you can just
Speaker 2: cut some of that grass out replant it. Yeah, they've
Speaker 2: got like this big mallet hammer now that they're banging
Speaker 2: down all the all the new people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he's got this interesting spinning technique too. I mean
Speaker 3: he's and he keeps staring at it. I mean he's
Speaker 3: total perfectionist with it. And what I thought was cool too,
Speaker 3: is they brought over they were like discs. They were like,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe eight inches around something like that, and
Speaker 3: they were all stacked up like a like a gyro.
Speaker 3: He cut off of it, brought it like a big
Speaker 3: post and that's how they filled it in. But it's
Speaker 3: like little, you know, discs of sod and built this
Speaker 3: puzzle and then he's been beating it up and it
Speaker 3: looks ready to go. Man, it looks incredible.
Speaker 2: I know we said this last year, but we we
Speaker 2: got to get one of these grounds keeper guys on
Speaker 2: the on the show, one of these training camp.
Speaker 3: We've talked about this for years, right' that'd be a.
Speaker 2: Lot of fun earlier today, Like, so we started the
Speaker 2: show kind of talking about some of the changes. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're still at Saint Vincent. It's still La Trobe. It's
Speaker 2: still Chuck Nolefield. It's still Steelers training camp as it
Speaker 2: has been I think for like sixty seven of the
Speaker 2: last sixty nine years something like that, other than those
Speaker 2: those two years during COVID where teams weren't allowed to
Speaker 2: go off campus.
Speaker 4: Matt one of the news.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was an NFL role too. That wasn't
Speaker 3: even like a Rooney decision or a decision.
Speaker 2: And I think the first time it made sense, everyone understood,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Second year it felt a little strict,
Speaker 2: and I don't think that a lot of people in
Speaker 2: black and gold circles were overly thrilled with the NFL
Speaker 2: making them.
Speaker 3: Go back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to support all of our businesses, local
Speaker 2: businesses that we love out here.
Speaker 4: But Matt, it was not just a new in the
Speaker 4: sense of new head coach. A lot of different practice.
Speaker 2: Times, you know, some of these new things. But you
Speaker 2: and I earlier today had to put our best face forward.
Speaker 3: That was not something I'm accustomed to do.
Speaker 2: Definitely not so they This is Matt and I went
Speaker 2: through maybe fifteen to twenty minutes with the Steelers video
Speaker 2: guys and then with the photographers and uh and we
Speaker 2: had to do different poses and walkouts and fist bumps
Speaker 2: and you throw this football and you had football. And
Speaker 2: Matt was making fun of my spiral because it wasn't
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 3: Oh it really was not.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm not a quarterback, all right, you know that
Speaker 4: was a defensive guy like.
Speaker 3: The hero though.
Speaker 2: But see, okay, I think I think it's harder to
Speaker 2: throw a spiral five yards away than it is fifteen
Speaker 2: yards away because you can't really get a I was all.
Speaker 3: So worried about clanking one off the I mean, I
Speaker 3: have a high release, you do, so I didn't want
Speaker 3: to like clank it off all the stuff that they
Speaker 3: built too.
Speaker 4: They built this huge, awesome set and there's a runway
Speaker 4: and there's some.
Speaker 3: Smoke machines, machines and smoke huge video behind you. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's stuff like they should use for Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 3: t J.
Speaker 4: Watt.
Speaker 2: They do, right, but they so so Annie tweeted us
Speaker 2: the Gift of Zoolander, you know, with uh with with
Speaker 2: Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson doing their best fashion impressions.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was Matt and I earlier today certainly,
Speaker 2: but yes, we are live for all of you wondering
Speaker 2: on Twitter, and you know with the with the bonus
Speaker 2: third hour that we will have all throughout training camp.
Speaker 2: Keep those tweets rolling in and UH and Matt and
Speaker 2: I will make sure to get to UH to those
Speaker 2: every single day as we roll along. Matt, let's talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about some of the UH, I don't
Speaker 2: know what you want to call them, procedural moves made
Speaker 2: by the Steelers.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it ahead of topical ahead.
Speaker 2: Of training camp with I think namely Joey Porter Junior
Speaker 2: and Jalen Ramsey both starting.
Speaker 4: Camp on the pup list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kent is on as well.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad you mentioned which.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a particularly noteworthy because they are all
Speaker 3: three cornerbacks, you know, I mean, and Kent you feel
Speaker 3: bad for because there's been a lot of instances what
Speaker 3: was his name, Watts Watts with Texas that like, you know,
Speaker 3: late round pick that's not guaranteed anything. You start your
Speaker 3: career injured in those first two years or so, no
Speaker 3: matter how good you are, you're pretty much swimming up
Speaker 3: scream because you just don't have a chance to show anybody.
Speaker 3: So I feel for him, and I kind of forgot
Speaker 3: how the severity of his injury until it was reported
Speaker 3: that he's starting on PUP, So we'll monitor that, but
Speaker 3: he's not going to probably have a ton of time
Speaker 3: to show off for the team. Maybe again, I don't
Speaker 3: know how you know when he's gonna be back. What's
Speaker 3: cool about pup. It's not like injury reserve you can
Speaker 3: pull a guy off tomorrow. Ye, I mean, these days
Speaker 3: come and go.
Speaker 4: It's not like the d L and Baseball or anything
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty day injured reserve or DL or whatever. So
Speaker 3: maybe he's back here sooner than later, or maybe he's
Speaker 3: an IR candidate for the whole year. I don't know, Ramsey,
Speaker 3: I guess tweaked something.
Speaker 2: In me that Omar Khan said in minicamp. Yes, he
Speaker 2: said he should only be out for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Here we go, per general manager Omar Khan. Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 2: suffered a knee injury during the team's mini camp, and
Speaker 2: I quote, we're going to be smart about it.
Speaker 4: He's a pro. You guys know how hard he works.
Speaker 2: If I had a guess, I would say it's probably
Speaker 2: going to be a couple of weeks end quote.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have sort of a tinfoil hat theory
Speaker 3: on the Ramsey.
Speaker 4: We play the conspiracy music.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm not saying he's not injured. We don't.
Speaker 3: No one thinks he's got the catastrophic injury or if
Speaker 3: this was Raven's week, that he wouldn't be practicing, you know,
Speaker 3: And this is true all the way across the league.
Speaker 3: Also noted if you rewind twenty minutes, this new head
Speaker 3: coach is very, very injury conscious and wants to get
Speaker 3: his eyes to the starting line, which get used to it,
Speaker 3: you know. And however, there were two players and I
Speaker 3: didn't attend Mini caamp in OTAs all that much at all,
Speaker 3: but either way, you wouldn't have known these answers. There's
Speaker 3: two players I really wanted to see usage here, Ramsey
Speaker 3: Roger Jones, who will get to in a minute, because
Speaker 3: he's also notable.
Speaker 4: He's in this conversation, but in an encouraging.
Speaker 3: Way, right, And I wonder is the rest of the
Speaker 3: league also interested in what they're gonna do? This is
Speaker 3: my tenfoil half part. They've been kind of quiet when
Speaker 3: all the Beat reporters saying, you know, when there's four
Speaker 3: dbs out there, is Ramsey gonna be a safety. Is
Speaker 3: he gonna be your Kyle Hamilton? Is he gonna be
Speaker 3: your Derwin James Cooper, de Jene slot guy? And I
Speaker 3: think he probably will be all those things. I don't
Speaker 3: think he'll come off the field. I think they'll play
Speaker 3: a ton of nickel the nickel the star position is
Speaker 3: more important than ever and mentioned a couple of the
Speaker 3: prominent names. But I also wonder if, hey, maybe we
Speaker 3: don't need to reveal that to the world right now.
Speaker 3: Sure you know that every time that I've heard of
Speaker 3: defensive coach being asked about it, they're pretty vague. And
Speaker 3: maybe that just comes from the top. There's no reason
Speaker 3: for the Falcons to know exactly what Ramsey's gonna do.
Speaker 3: I just have a hunch that they have big plans
Speaker 3: for him that maybe we don't need to show the
Speaker 3: world at late July.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you might be onto something there.
Speaker 2: And if I, uh, if I asked you to put
Speaker 2: your tinfoil hat on with with Joey Porter Junior, do
Speaker 2: you think some of that is just obvious we're in
Speaker 2: contract negotiations. Maybe it's a you know, a pseudo hold
Speaker 2: in type thing, if you will, Yeah, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: he had something little that he tweaked, and they just thought, hey,
Speaker 2: let's you know, let's take our time with this.
Speaker 3: Think that. And again, I don't think this is like
Speaker 3: unlawful or you know, like not breaking any rules.
Speaker 4: No, not at all mischievous or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, I was chatting with one of our
Speaker 3: colleagues earlier, and you know, no one can really prove
Speaker 3: if your backs up. Sure, you know, it's like good
Speaker 3: not the next acting up up right now. I can
Speaker 3: go on pump for one day or three days or whatever,
Speaker 3: we can pull you right off. But my hunch is
Speaker 3: sometime in these coming weeks he there will be an
Speaker 3: announcement Joey Porter signs an extension with the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 3: for X amount of dollars and maybe not coincidentally, the
Speaker 3: next day he's on the field. That's just my hunch,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: I think that will happen.
Speaker 3: Keeping everybody safe, you know, right right, and and along.
Speaker 2: The themes of kind of what we've been talking about
Speaker 2: with Mike McCarthy right right right, of wanting to get
Speaker 2: to that starting line it's July, with as much help
Speaker 2: as possible. This is another something that Motes used to
Speaker 2: talk about like the first day out here, if you
Speaker 2: even are one hundred percent at that point, that's the
Speaker 2: last time you're one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: It's all downhill from me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might get to the regular season at ninety
Speaker 2: seven ninety eight percent.
Speaker 3: Love these percents that people give to like it's.
Speaker 2: A video game or your health, you know, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: like this is the last time you're truly if you
Speaker 2: can even come in here with a clean bill.
Speaker 3: Of health, this is good.
Speaker 4: This is as good as it gets. And so hey
Speaker 4: preserve that as long as you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay as close to one hundred as you can,
Speaker 3: because there's gonna be times you're again. I don't know
Speaker 3: the percentages. You might be a thirty or you know.
Speaker 3: So the longer you can keep yourself in tip top shape,
Speaker 3: the better. And I think this head coach very much
Speaker 3: embraces that.
Speaker 2: Yes he does, and we have we've seen that, we've
Speaker 2: heard that just a just a small snapshot today, but
Speaker 2: it was a and I should be fair. The first
Speaker 2: practice is always a little bit shorter.
Speaker 4: It's true. It's acclimation periods.
Speaker 2: The first time out here, you kind of get everybody
Speaker 2: where they need to be and lay the groundwork and
Speaker 2: get things started and make sure you uh you know,
Speaker 2: live to to continue to fight many many many more
Speaker 2: days out here. It also sounds like Matt that you
Speaker 2: know from from uh and we'll we'll hear a little
Speaker 2: bit from Mike McCarthy and some of the things that
Speaker 2: he had to say today, but today, and I think
Speaker 2: it was on Monday, either Monday or yesterday, Tuesday when
Speaker 2: he kind of did his pre training camp press conference
Speaker 2: talking about just how much of this was going to
Speaker 2: be detail oriented, coaching oriented, and at what seems like
Speaker 2: Matt that evening film sessions are going to be a
Speaker 2: big part of this training camp too.
Speaker 3: Okay, not that they weren't again, but I'm sure that
Speaker 3: some teams are some coaching a stress different things more
Speaker 3: than others.
Speaker 2: When you're practicing until five, yeah, and then you're out
Speaker 2: on the field for another half an hour to do
Speaker 2: an extra work, and then you gotta get changed, then
Speaker 2: you got to dinner, then you gotta get treatment. The
Speaker 2: evening zaps up pretty quickly as opposed to now where
Speaker 2: these guys still have a lot of hours in the day.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, makes sense, And I meant to say
Speaker 3: this too that by no means after watching acclamation practice one,
Speaker 3: they're not standing around doing nothing. No, I mean there's
Speaker 3: still a lot, a lot of coaching going on. I
Speaker 3: would think a lot of fundamental stuff, a lot of
Speaker 3: mental stuff. These are two new systems. Let's take it
Speaker 3: from the whiteboard to the field. It wasn't like Watt
Speaker 3: and Hayward and Frasier and Metcalf and those guys are
Speaker 3: just standing around with their helmets. They're all out on
Speaker 3: the field doing being coached up. You know. It's just
Speaker 3: they're just not banging.
Speaker 2: They absolutely not yet, and we'll see some of it.
Speaker 2: We will definitely see some of it. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: pillow fight out here for a three weeks, but it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a very interesting process to follow, a different process, certainly.
Speaker 4: The one that we've seen over the last nineteen years.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 2: There was good news on the pup list, and that
Speaker 2: revolving around Roderick Jones, a first round pick, former first
Speaker 2: round pick for the Steelers, who has a lot on
Speaker 2: the line this year for both his Black and Gold
Speaker 2: future and his future in the National Football League. Let's
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about some good news there and
Speaker 2: just some early thoughts on this offensive line that really
Speaker 2: feels like a major make or break. How does it
Speaker 2: all come together? How good can they be for the
Speaker 2: Steelers and for the offense this season. We'll do that
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Speaker 2: So we discussed some of the hits to the pup
Speaker 2: list now, namely all in the Steelers secondary for the
Speaker 2: past worm there all at one position, But there was
Speaker 2: good news, surprising news, I think, Matt from whence we
Speaker 2: last heard an update on Roger Jones's health. There were
Speaker 2: questions about if he would even be ready for the
Speaker 2: start of training camp, if we would see him at
Speaker 2: all during this process, of course, recovering from that neck
Speaker 2: injury that he sustained in Chicago this past winter, past fall,
Speaker 2: past season. Well, Matt, not only is Roger Jones not
Speaker 2: starting training camp on the pup list, he was out
Speaker 2: here today and active at the first practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. And it was a small sample size
Speaker 3: because we'd go do our photo shoot and runway stuff
Speaker 3: and all that, and you know, again, they're not banging,
Speaker 3: you know. But from what I saw, it looked it
Speaker 3: looked like he was playing left tackle as Falton, who's backup.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Now, I think there's a lot of options for him.
Speaker 3: I mean, could he compete with Max and Cook at
Speaker 3: the right tackle spot. We've seen him play both. Could
Speaker 3: he just be the backup left tackle? I think either
Speaker 3: one of those are possible. They could bounce them back
Speaker 3: and forth. I saw a little bit of Cook lining
Speaker 3: up on the left side too. He's also done both
Speaker 3: over his career. Could Jones get involved with the right
Speaker 3: guard battle.
Speaker 4: I think anything is possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think he's a real wild card. And
Speaker 3: really has been for different reasons throughout the course of
Speaker 3: his career. But I'm not saying the old OH line
Speaker 3: coach is bad. But you have a new O line coach,
Speaker 3: maybe they unlock some things with him. He has shown
Speaker 3: spurts of playing really well. It's the problem is his
Speaker 3: lows are just two lows.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: He gets particularly in past blocking. When he gets beat,
Speaker 3: he gets beat quick and bad.
Speaker 2: It's like a zero out of ten. Yeah, It's not
Speaker 2: a five or a six. It's like he'll put he'll
Speaker 2: put in a bunch of seven and eight's out of
Speaker 2: ten and then a zero.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's rough because it's really hard to trust
Speaker 3: your blind side protector and that capacity to because you
Speaker 3: never know when it's coming. And there's been times over
Speaker 3: his career where in the run blocking game, I don't
Speaker 3: say he didn't know who to block, but he also
Speaker 3: was not getting to where he needed to be consistently,
Speaker 3: you know, And if you got a run play and
Speaker 3: one guy blows his block, the other four could be
Speaker 3: perfect and the play might still get blown up. So
Speaker 3: just too much inconsistency. But it was very talented. He's
Speaker 3: getting a new coaching staff, a new scheme, maybe new positions.
Speaker 3: I'm just real curious to see where they line him up.
Speaker 3: And I guess I haven't brought this up enough on
Speaker 3: these airwaves because we've been on for a while. Either.
Speaker 3: If you look at McCarthy's history, this really goes back
Speaker 3: to Green Bay and green Bay still this way. They
Speaker 3: did it with Tyron Smith, who was a really, really
Speaker 3: good tackle first round pick, moved them to guard and
Speaker 3: he might be the best guard in the league in Dallas,
Speaker 3: but they will play tackles at guard more than maybe
Speaker 3: any coaching group in the league.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: They able to get their best five out there, and hey,
Speaker 3: I'll put the six to five guy that can handle
Speaker 3: the power over the six to three stumpy dude, you know.
Speaker 3: And so maybe he factors in more than you think,
Speaker 3: is all I'm saying. There's just a lot of avenues
Speaker 3: that he can influence things. There's a lot Maybe it
Speaker 3: looks great and they trade him for a third um,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of avenues that he can influence things.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of options in a lot of ways
Speaker 2: to deploy this offensive line, which feels way different than
Speaker 2: this time last year.
Speaker 4: Matt where we liked. We liked the starting five, but
Speaker 4: there was a lot.
Speaker 2: Of questions about depth behind them and what happens if
Speaker 2: somebody goes down. And thankfully Dylan Cooked proved that he
Speaker 2: could play a role out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you found something there.
Speaker 2: Spencer Anderson proved that he could play a role out there.
Speaker 2: But this year, I mean, you you just.
Speaker 3: Keep drafting tackles. This is what happened.
Speaker 2: To just keep drafting tackles, and you still have McCormick,
Speaker 2: and you still have Jennings Dunker, and you still have
Speaker 2: brock Hoffman, and you still have Spencer Anderson and man.
Speaker 4: Just that's one of the things.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: When Micha McCarthy spoke today, he talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: keeping an eye out for different combinations, like it's one
Speaker 2: of the things that he mentioned was kind of versatility
Speaker 2: is always key for your first couple of practices, but
Speaker 2: especially those combinations on the offensive line. He advised paying
Speaker 2: less attention to the starting five at this juncture and
Speaker 2: more to which offensive linemen are working together. So like,
Speaker 2: for example, one snap, you could see Dylan Cook and
Speaker 2: Spencer Anderson on the right side, which is what we
Speaker 2: saw to start today, which is what we saw back
Speaker 2: at OTA's at Mini camp. Then it could be Anderson
Speaker 2: and Maxie on a chore. Uh you know, you could
Speaker 2: have Faltonu and McCormick on the left side. Brock Hoffman's
Speaker 2: gonna get some opportunity to bump in there. It also
Speaker 2: sounds like, according to to Mike McCarthy, that we might see, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, brock Hoffman take some reps at center whenever
Speaker 2: Zach Frazier he's listed.
Speaker 3: On the depth start or on the official roster as
Speaker 3: a center that before we went on the air. So
Speaker 3: he'll do all three. He'll he'll he'll play both.
Speaker 2: Guards, and he's one of those guys I think that
Speaker 2: you want as part of your equation who can really
Speaker 2: play all three. It's it's a strength to play all
Speaker 2: three of those interior positions. But Matt, they have to
Speaker 2: figure route still the best five. There's maybe more questions
Speaker 2: about the best five this year than there has been
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years. But I think that's
Speaker 2: because you can legitimately see eight different guys really being
Speaker 2: in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Right, which is exactly how Omar has always wanted it
Speaker 3: since his first draft when he did draft Fraser and
Speaker 3: Jones and those guys because we have those same conversations.
Speaker 3: Then it's like, boy, what James Daniels gets hurt and
Speaker 3: her big gets hurt and the young guys never gave
Speaker 3: the job up because they had a wealth of these dudes,
Speaker 3: and maybe they were taken the job sooner than later anyways,
Speaker 3: especially at center. But I found it interesting. I think.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I sent it to you.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: I was listening to a podcast over the last two
Speaker 3: weeks where someone was really talking about how valuable every
Speaker 3: team's sixth offensive lineman is, and no matter how this
Speaker 3: shakes out, I think the Steelers sixth though lineman and
Speaker 3: probably seventh, they'll probably be a tackles or six and
Speaker 3: an interior guy like Hoffin is your seventhing to be
Speaker 3: better than most teams? You know? So, But I don't
Speaker 3: remember the number exactly, but I think it's somewhere along
Speaker 3: the lines of if you take every team starting five
Speaker 3: in Week one, whoever they put out there in the
Speaker 3: first snap of the NFL season, how many snaps other
Speaker 3: than those five do NFL teams average from offensive linemen,
Speaker 3: And it's like seven hundred over the course of a year.
Speaker 3: I mean that's maybe throwing a six guy out there
Speaker 3: for a couple of plays, your guard gets heart for
Speaker 3: three weeks, you lose your left tackle for sixteen games,
Speaker 3: and you got to play twelve or twelve hundred snaps there.
Speaker 3: So that's six guys almost like the sixth guy in
Speaker 3: the NFL or in the NBA, like you better be good.
Speaker 3: The Steelers had some immaculate luck back in the the
Speaker 3: Castro Pouncy years where they didn't have to dig into
Speaker 3: their depth, but almost every team does. And if your
Speaker 3: six and seventh guys are highly capable of playing six hundred,
Speaker 3: seven hundred snaps and you know, it's a difference, but
Speaker 3: it's not a catastrophic difference, I think you're in really
Speaker 3: good shape. And not to mention that the youth there,
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of these guys. Best football is
Speaker 3: probably ahead of them.
Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And yeah, you're right, man.
Speaker 2: There was that stretch there when the Steelers offensive line,
Speaker 2: you know, Dan Moore Junior and Kevin Dotson and Mason
Speaker 2: Cole like, those guys had a insanely I guess you
Speaker 2: could call it lucky.
Speaker 3: They played a lot of STAPs.
Speaker 2: I think between all that one year, I think between
Speaker 2: all five starting offensive linemen, one of them missed one game,
Speaker 2: and that was it.
Speaker 3: Like that, just two or three years in a row,
Speaker 3: they were like the luckiest line in the league in
Speaker 3: terms of injuries.
Speaker 4: And then we saw it go the reverse way.
Speaker 2: Like you talked about where you lost Nate Herbert early
Speaker 2: on in training camp, you lost Faltanu and James Daniels
Speaker 2: early in the season.
Speaker 3: What if you hadn't drafted three that year draft and
Speaker 3: three offensive linemans A lot, a lot, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you thought you could stash McCormick and really
Speaker 2: let him develop and marinate and take his time, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden early in the season, Daniels goes down.
Speaker 2: I think it was an Indianapolis I want to say,
Speaker 2: and and.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, we're hoping, Matt that that is not the
Speaker 2: case that you have the good injury luck this year.
Speaker 2: And then you know what if you got eight or
Speaker 2: nine guys who could play and you have some injury
Speaker 2: fortune things, you know, guys stay healthy, That's when I
Speaker 2: think you can start fielding some phone calls too, like
Speaker 2: you were mentioning, because I know this is something that
Speaker 2: is always discussed around the draft and the combine and
Speaker 2: free agency. But we know offensive line play across the
Speaker 2: board in the NFL right now is maybe the weakest
Speaker 2: overall positional group.
Speaker 3: Yes, especially when you look at who they have to block.
Speaker 2: You look at all these apex predators on the defensive
Speaker 2: lines that continue to get one hundred million dollar contracts. Hey,
Speaker 2: having a lot of guys who are viable is very important,
Speaker 2: and the Steelers might be, uh, they might even have
Speaker 2: an abundance of riches in that in that department.
Speaker 3: So I've read some O line rankings, you know, one
Speaker 3: to thirty two, and not the contradict what you said,
Speaker 3: But when I was starting at the bottom, I kind
Speaker 3: of thought, boy, some of these bad old lines are
Speaker 3: a little better than I thought, you know, the Browns,
Speaker 3: the Texans, all these ones that have totally revamped themselves,
Speaker 3: you know. And then it dawned on me. It's like
Speaker 3: they do in July. But the second one guy goes
Speaker 3: down and you got to dig into that six and
Speaker 3: seven hundred snaps per year or whatever it is, or
Speaker 3: maybe more. Some of these lines are walking a thin,
Speaker 3: thin ice, you know, not hoping to hope to fall in.
Speaker 3: And I don't think the Steelers are in that boat.
Speaker 4: I do not think so either. I think, in fact,
Speaker 4: the ice is pretty thick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the pond hockey ice that was
Speaker 2: playing on back in January, matt when it was single
Speaker 2: degree temperatures for three straight weeks in western Pennsylvania could
Speaker 2: have drilled into that ice.
Speaker 3: Baby. My dad told a story on vacation the other day.
Speaker 3: They used to fish a ton and the four of
Speaker 3: them that would always go fishing, the heaviest dude was
Speaker 3: the guy that would walk out on the ice first,
Speaker 3: and they'd just tie a rope around him because we'll
Speaker 3: follow you, you know. So Bob Dolan, big big heavy
Speaker 3: Bob walks out there, falls through. They pull him in,
Speaker 3: you know, dry him off, get him the car, dry
Speaker 3: him off. They fish for the day, and then they're
Speaker 3: they're coming on the way home. They're like, let's stop
Speaker 3: at Lake Arthur too. You know, we we we've been
Speaker 3: wanting to hit here for a while or whatever. Bob
Speaker 3: going out there falls twice a day.
Speaker 2: That's a scary problem. There's been there's been a couple
Speaker 2: of times in my pond hockey days that you hear
Speaker 2: that run and you're like, all right, boys, what's up? Nope,
Speaker 2: try in next weekend.
Speaker 4: Hour of the.
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Speaker 2: around the league with some other big news. We've got
Speaker 2: to hear from some of these Steelers after today's practice.
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward spoke our King, Zach Fraser spoke Mason Rudolph,
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior.
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of different stuff to get to
Speaker 4: here over the next two.
Speaker 3: Hours's a good looking cat by the way, if you
Speaker 3: haven't seen him in person yet, he is pretty Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're huge, man. I mean there's pass catchers are giganormous.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard Matt Williamson disc I'm
Speaker 2: one of the Steelers is pretty, So I'll take his.
Speaker 4: Word for it.
Speaker 3: Four ripped up looks looking good.
Speaker 2: It looks prettier than the girlfriends that I used to have.
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