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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the drive on the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>Audio Network. West Shuoler and Matt Williamson with you here

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<v Speaker 2>for the next three hours for the next few weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, at Chucknollfield on the beautiful campus of Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent College in Latrobe, Pennsylvania for Steelers Training Camp twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six. Matt, it's the same, but it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just saying the same thing. It's a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually when you know, I've done this the drive longer

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<v Speaker 3>than you have. But we usually come on at three

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<v Speaker 3>a training camp and there's practice going on. Nope, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just groundskeepers out there, and there's it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>ghost town at this point. There are some new developments

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<v Speaker 3>on campus. You know, we're looking what would you call

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<v Speaker 3>that that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you pointed that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's almost like a hospitality suite.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's in the end zone here to our right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a it's almost like a standalone building. It

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<v Speaker 2>is like real brick and mortar. It's not just a

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<v Speaker 2>tent or anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a lot of glass, a lot of glass.

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<v Speaker 2>For windows for viewing, a lot of seating options there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's kind of a level roof platform with

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<v Speaker 2>with some tent coverage on top two. So I imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>that serves well for training camp where you know you

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of use that as.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe mister Rooney the IP.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's sponsors and and other you know, members of

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<v Speaker 2>the ownership group.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'm like suret of the super box, like

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<v Speaker 3>the club, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Champions Club there in the end zone at Akrocher stadium

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm sure too, you know, for from Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent's perspective, I bet you being able to get up

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<v Speaker 2>on that roof that platform there and kind of do

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<v Speaker 2>some evaluating of practice.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if from there, yeah, there all twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>from there or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is it is funny how that works, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year when we come out here, there's usually something

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<v Speaker 2>new on campus. Yeah, you know, and this year there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a little hospitality type suite thing, uh in the

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<v Speaker 2>end zone. There's also a brand new athletics specificity on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of us that was in the process

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<v Speaker 2>of being built last year and is now complete, and

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<v Speaker 2>it looks pretty sick Matt. Yeah, it's like a I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, for lack of better terms, it's it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a rec center that you would expect to see

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<v Speaker 2>on a college campus.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's brand new.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really nice, and it's got a big indoor field

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm sure with the weather that we get out

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<v Speaker 2>here in this region, they'll need at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and clearly the weather comes and goes here pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about it a lot through the mountains and

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's something we always have to monitor. But I

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<v Speaker 3>really thought the Steelers as a football team got short

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<v Speaker 3>changed on rain days quite a.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit, especially last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt like it was rough because I think their only

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<v Speaker 3>option was basically go to the gym and do a

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<v Speaker 3>walk through. And you and I had to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the gym today, right, that was a experience in itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt and I had to do some modeling earlier today.

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<v Speaker 2>We did runway work, video stuff, and then they sent

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<v Speaker 2>us over to photography. I felt like I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Beyonce with all the wardrobe changes and everything that they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing there is like the Taylor Swift Eras tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were like supermodels.

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<v Speaker 4>But I said that to you.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point Matt and I were over in the

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<v Speaker 2>gym earlier. That's the first time I've ever been in

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<v Speaker 2>the gym here, and we were kind of like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I could imagine why they weren't fans of having to

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A small school gymnasium.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The new facility across the way here will be much

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<v Speaker 2>better when when weather demands that they move inside.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's always pros and cons to where you

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<v Speaker 3>have training camp. You know, like a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 3>just stay at their facility. They have the indoor, they have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the same lockers. They don't have to move

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<v Speaker 3>everything out here. I'm very much a proponent of coming

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<v Speaker 3>to Saint Vincent for a lot of different reasons, and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about it through the whole time we're here,

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<v Speaker 3>but mostly camaraderie tradition. I think that all that stuff matters,

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<v Speaker 3>and I frankly think it helps you win football games.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did think one of the definite cons was

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<v Speaker 3>rain days. You could not get a ton done the

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<v Speaker 3>last twenty thirty years. Now they're gonna go over there

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<v Speaker 3>running routes full speed. I haven't been in it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I assume that there's a field turf situation or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's a hundred of field and what's

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<v Speaker 3>in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite a hundred, but it's much bigger than the gymnasium.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the indoor south side is not one hundred either.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could get a lot done. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be a full full field, so that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always always a lot of differences here, always

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of moving and shaken, But the chief most

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<v Speaker 2>amongst them, Matt, is the change in head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>And just across the board.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part, there are still some familiar faces

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<v Speaker 2>on the coaching staff, but a lot of turnover. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike McCarthy at the helm of the Steelers year after

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen years of Mike Tomlin.

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<v Speaker 4>So I made this reference to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was on Monday, but it almost feels

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<v Speaker 2>like first day of school at a new school.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good way of looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>You said that the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that you have a report time, and here's where,

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<v Speaker 2>here's math class and history class and gym class, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're gonna have a lunch period.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have a locker, and you're gonna have a locker.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have teachers write all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's your first time doing it in a different building,

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<v Speaker 2>in a new school, and I know this is all

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<v Speaker 2>the same setting. But Matt, I think really at the

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<v Speaker 2>forefront of that is the earlier practices here that we

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<v Speaker 2>got our first taste of today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean again, so I said this on Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>But the acclamation period, I want everyone to understand, it's

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<v Speaker 3>five practices. It's NFL mandated. This is not a Steeler decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean every team, it's collectively bargained. So the first

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<v Speaker 3>five practices of training camp are an acclamation period, which

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<v Speaker 3>are not full full go and you not be padded.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they have helmets and shells on and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but they do not bang around. It's a slower, more

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<v Speaker 3>advanced than I would say mini camp and OTAs, but

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<v Speaker 3>definitely not what you think of Joe Green out here

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<v Speaker 3>in seventy six doing two a days, or what Tounch

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<v Speaker 3>and Wolf are doing. You know, no air conditioning, No,

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<v Speaker 3>not at all. So it's a little anti climatic. And

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<v Speaker 3>why I bring that up is because we don't yet

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<v Speaker 3>know how McCarthy and his staff are going to structure.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say the real practices, but the

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<v Speaker 3>big dog practices, you know, once you.

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<v Speaker 4>Knock off the rust and really go full speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now what we do know is he's practicing earlier

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason. But I think some of that is

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid the hottest parts of the day. That was

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<v Speaker 3>a big time Tomlin thing, dressing all black and walk

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<v Speaker 3>out here at two in the afternoon when the sun's

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<v Speaker 3>beating on everybody, and I highly suspect and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>not to like get ahead of myself because I could

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<v Speaker 3>be wrong, because we know it's the same ownership, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the same front office, it's the same Saint Vincent's, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>despite the changes we mentioned. But doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>homework on how McCarthy has structured his practices basically going

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<v Speaker 3>back to his Dallas days. It's only a year removed

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<v Speaker 3>were they're gonna be a lot lighter, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>I think his and there's two ways doing it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure people will be like, oh, that stinks, that's soft.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of our classic Steeler listeners are

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<v Speaker 2>they they were not thrilled when they heard no live

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<v Speaker 2>tackling or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I suspect and maybe I'll be totally wrong

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<v Speaker 3>for practices from now, but I think that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be very much load management. They're all going to

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<v Speaker 3>have their GPS trackers and when they hit a pitch count,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak, Okay, you've you've you've done your thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's already mentioned there will not be live tackling, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers were under Tomlin about it as physical as

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<v Speaker 3>you can be, you know. I'm sure some people came

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<v Speaker 3>out here that've been coming out for forty years watching

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Green and Tounch of Wolf, going like, boy, these

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<v Speaker 3>guys are soft. These guys are but compared to the

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one other teams, Tomlin's training camps were hot, sweaty,

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<v Speaker 3>physical and push the limits as much as you could,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, without breaking them. I think McCarthy's gonna look

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<v Speaker 3>at it very different, and I don't know which way's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, again, he had a saying in Dallas that

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<v Speaker 3>you can't win the super Bowl in August, but you

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<v Speaker 3>could lose it with injuries, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think there's something to be said for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna be really very very injury avoidance.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that we'll see backs on backers. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that we'll see seven shots. I mean, I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 3>but I expect it to be much much lighter in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of physicality, which when you hit week sixteen or seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>no one's gonna think about. But you might be like, boy,

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<v Speaker 3>this team's a lot fresher than they were the last

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<v Speaker 3>three years. Or you might get the Week one and

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<v Speaker 3>they doors get blown off and be like boy, they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do anything trading camp. What are you thinking. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just two ways of looking at it, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know those reactions are going to be there either way,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter, no doubt, no matter how y. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we do as football fans. It's such a

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<v Speaker 2>short sample size and every game matters so much. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that to me has has really stuck out and is

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<v Speaker 2>going to stick out here over the next what three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks that that we'll be doing shows here at Chuck Nollfield,

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<v Speaker 2>where I think things are going to be lighter. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we know practices are going to be earlier Friday. On

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<v Speaker 2>this on Steelers dot Com, it says Friday's practice is

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<v Speaker 2>going to start at ten thirty in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>and so, yeah, the lack of live tackling some of

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<v Speaker 2>the drills that we're used to. But you know what, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep coming back to this because I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>some people that have said, hey, I don't want a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game, and what eight years, nine years, Let's try

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<v Speaker 2>something different.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say yeah, right, all right, right, maybe you're not

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<v Speaker 3>as fresh because you banged this whole month. There is

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<v Speaker 3>the old school amazone doing anything either and everyone's picking

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<v Speaker 3>them to win the Super Bowl, and everyone thinks the

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<v Speaker 3>best coach in.

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<v Speaker 2>The league, the old school mentality of like you got

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<v Speaker 2>to get out here and get physical and beat each

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<v Speaker 2>other up.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt, you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>I say this to you sometimes when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>like defensive scheme and formations and even offensive personnel, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no right way to do it. If one proven way

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the way, this is how you win

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<v Speaker 2>playoff games and Super Bowls. You have light training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>morning practices before it gets too hot.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody would do it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was you got to be physical, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the middle of the day. You know

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<v Speaker 2>everybody would would would do.

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<v Speaker 3>It that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know exactly right, exactly right, and so listen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that to me is going to be very very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to follow over the next couple of weeks. But as

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, especially when we get to this coming Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>when when when the pads will go on, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see exactly because it's going to be physical still

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<v Speaker 2>it's football.

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<v Speaker 3>Course, of course. But but what as you out right

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<v Speaker 3>and if you didn't expect changes your nuts, we think

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<v Speaker 3>should happened totally. And I love your point. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>they did not play their best football in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 3>for numerous years in a row. Could this be something different?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is not the youngest roster in the

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<v Speaker 3>league either, especially the guys you're counting on your quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>your two best defensive players three, maybe your three best

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<v Speaker 3>defensive players are all well well into their thirties, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not like Tom Win beat the crap out

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<v Speaker 3>of Cam Hayward.

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<v Speaker 4>He get.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, it was more of the younger

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<v Speaker 3>guys too. But I am interested to see what the

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<v Speaker 3>results are. Maybe it won't make one bit of difference,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it'll make tons of difference. Maybe we'll get into

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<v Speaker 3>this thing two weeks from now when reporters are putting

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<v Speaker 3>microphones in the faces of guys have been around for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, going well, I feel a lot better

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<v Speaker 3>now than I did, you know, going into the first

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<v Speaker 3>preseason game, even preseason, I don't know that they'll play

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<v Speaker 3>their starters as much. I mean, I don't think Rogers

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<v Speaker 3>and Cam are going to play at all. But I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if the queens of the world will even dress,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, keep them safe, you know, yeah, yeah, even

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<v Speaker 3>though they're young. One thing I did hear about McCarthy

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<v Speaker 3>is hit. One of his huge pet peeves is he

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<v Speaker 3>will kick guys out of practice earlier if they're on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground too much. You know, on the ground, get

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<v Speaker 3>stepped on, you get hurt, you twist things, you trip

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<v Speaker 3>people up, you hurt other people. Plus especially lineman, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't block anybody. If you're on the ground, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing your job. So that's like one of his big

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<v Speaker 3>pet peeves. So it's not like he's just going to

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<v Speaker 3>give them all hugs and sing Kumbaya, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>he kicks people out of practice for doing things he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like too. It's just I'm expecting a very different

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<v Speaker 3>approach to what they do with their minutes on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and we've talked about some of those things,

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<v Speaker 2>like how much is going to be devoted to specialty,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, along with the physicality element and tackling in

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<v Speaker 2>those things, how much how much time is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be devoted to special teams all that stuff that will

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of peeling back here and keeping an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on over the next few weeks. I will tell you, though, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that we always keep an eye on is

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<v Speaker 2>the grounds crew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, has a project going on here for day one, for.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the entire the entire field still looks really good.

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<v Speaker 2>But on day one here at the fifty yard line

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<v Speaker 2>on the main field, it looks almost like a groundhog

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<v Speaker 2>was down there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, tear and stuff. It looks like shutting. No no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no no, no, no, no no no. Down there at

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<v Speaker 4>the fifty yards a story indiredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they're working on. There's taking they

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<v Speaker 3>get a free bowl, sup with that. They're digging big

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<v Speaker 3>holes and replacing big, massive divots like it does look

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<v Speaker 3>like a groundhog has a way with it. I guarantee,

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<v Speaker 3>if we get here nine o'clock tomorrow morning, you'll never

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<v Speaker 3>even know it's there. These guys are unbelievable. They do

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<v Speaker 3>a great job, but they're probably I assume this is

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<v Speaker 3>an unforeseen thing. They've only had one practice here and

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden there's this big project going on

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<v Speaker 3>well after practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge Uh and and Kinger and a Max pointed it

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<v Speaker 2>out to me when I got up here actually a

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<v Speaker 2>little after a little after one o'clock, and uh, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of like, man, somebody really tore up Do you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Those those chunks in the ground there at the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, the uh day one here they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They are well into it, the ground crew in front

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<v Speaker 2>of us. As as like Matt mentioned, it'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different here is we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>kind of right in the thick of practice as we

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<v Speaker 2>typically are. But it'll also it could be fun in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways too, Matt, because the hay will

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<v Speaker 2>be in the barn by the time we go on air,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we'll kind of have all the information of

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<v Speaker 2>the day and be able to kind of put a

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<v Speaker 2>rap on everything, where a lot of times in.

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<v Speaker 3>The past I want to get tomorrow on that injury

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<v Speaker 3>or you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Certain things like that, whereas now, hey, it'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to follow through and see how this all goes.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll also have a lot of interviews that happened throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the day, you know, that we can reference and play

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<v Speaker 3>back for you guys, et cetera, et cetera too. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're the caboose now, and we're always worth at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>but now.

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<v Speaker 4>Practice caboose too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right, And that'll be something that we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>getting used to that we'll be figuring out as we

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<v Speaker 2>move and shake here over these next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also hoping you know, uh, one of the downsides

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<v Speaker 2>of being on here during practice was we couldn't really

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<v Speaker 2>have guests because you know, they're all on the field

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<v Speaker 2>and they got to get their quotes and they got

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<v Speaker 2>to write their stories and all that. Well, they're all

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<v Speaker 2>finishing up writing their stories by this point now down

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<v Speaker 2>there at the Fred Rogers Center where all the media

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<v Speaker 2>gathers and has a work room and all that good stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be able to pull some guests as we

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<v Speaker 2>roll long here. We got to get back to, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to our regular people. Matt We got a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Rob King and Missy Matthews.

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<v Speaker 3>We would talk to them in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chris Halleck and Bob Labriola and all those people

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<v Speaker 2>that we enjoy talking to will be ramping all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Up as we roll along here. It's just day one

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<v Speaker 4>hour number.

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<v Speaker 3>We got here last night. I got here this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've seen most of those crew, and I probably

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<v Speaker 3>see the rest of them tonight at Sharkies.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right. Yeah, I saw some of them last

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<v Speaker 4>night at Sharkies, and saw some of them this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I'm gonna have to do a better job of.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt is pacing myself a little bit throughout these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been out here since like eight o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>and you and I have five straight hours of radio

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<v Speaker 2>to do now because we have to go through a

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<v Speaker 2>late show tonight too. Not as not as easy as

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<v Speaker 2>the days of the past where you could sneak a

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<v Speaker 2>little nap and before practice. Now practice is happening early

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just go, go go, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Wes and I upgraded to the hotel so we're not

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<v Speaker 3>in the dorms. But you gotta realize, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the easiest drive ever. You could sneak over there, pretty easy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd get a little nappy, little nap as we roll along.

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<v Speaker 3>Heay one, you'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's training camp for everybody, as we like

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<v Speaker 2>to say. But it is a beautiful day here. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit of rain earlier today. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a nice in the seventies, little overcast, a good

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<v Speaker 2>day to be walking around campus here.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got plenty to get to from today's practice.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got plenty to get to from kind of bigger

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<v Speaker 2>picture storylines that we'll be keeping an eye on. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course, with training camps opening across the NFL, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of league news.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been a lot of signings and stuff that's happened

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<v Speaker 3>just since we got together Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>On Monday, Yeah, in the last forty eight hours or so,

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<v Speaker 4>so good things.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we were bad about this Monday too. No video

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<v Speaker 3>during camp? No video dor yea yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, Our Guy TV.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be putting out little promos and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>on the social media. But if you if you're somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who typically likes to, you know, see Matt and I's

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful mugs on YouTube and watching the visual element that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be back here in a couple of weeks as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as camp is over, you know, around mid to

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<v Speaker 2>late August. We will be back simulcast on YouTube as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But during camp, kind of tough set up here in

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<v Speaker 2>the boots and Our Guy TV just has a million

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<v Speaker 2>different responsibilities. Dude, have you ever seen so much video

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<v Speaker 2>and photo equipment as they had over there in the gymnasium.

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<v Speaker 3>The name insane, Yeah, I mean maybe we can get

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<v Speaker 3>into that, but I didn't know what a light box was,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was smoke coming out, and I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>they got a lot going on at Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about that a little bit on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side and we'll start to break down all the movement

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<v Speaker 4>Back on campus here as we roll along on the drive,

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<v Speaker 4>and yes we do need to just quickly. It's funny, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>A few people have tweeted us Annie Michael angry bike Lane.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are back. Are you live? Yes, we are live.

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<v Speaker 4>We are all the way live. You've got us from

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<v Speaker 4>three until six.

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<v Speaker 3>Although they can listen to this anytime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also, yeah, we'll be live three to six

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<v Speaker 2>here every single day that there is practice and again

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<v Speaker 2>we have a few evening shows throughout the course of

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<v Speaker 2>these few weeks as well a lot of new stuff

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<v Speaker 2>as we outline.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just breaking it so good.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, I've always wondered that on golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Courses they must be the best in the world, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You think, especially now, like in the post COVID era,

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<v Speaker 2>golf is more popular now than it's ever been. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like everybody my age plays golf, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times, you know, like you'll go to these

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<v Speaker 2>courses and like the t boxes and everything are immaculate,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like drives off of this every single day

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<v Speaker 2>and for weeks and weeks and weeks at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I totally get it. Man, you can just

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<v Speaker 2>cut some of that grass out replant it. Yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 2>got like this big mallet hammer now that they're banging

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<v Speaker 2>down all the all the new people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's got this interesting spinning technique too. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>he's and he keeps staring at it. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 3>total perfectionist with it. And what I thought was cool too,

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<v Speaker 3>is they brought over they were like discs. They were like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe eight inches around something like that, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were all stacked up like a like a gyro.

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<v Speaker 3>He cut off of it, brought it like a big

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<v Speaker 3>post and that's how they filled it in. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>like little, you know, discs of sod and built this

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<v Speaker 3>puzzle and then he's been beating it up and it

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<v Speaker 3>looks ready to go. Man, it looks incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we said this last year, but we we

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<v Speaker 2>got to get one of these grounds keeper guys on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the show, one of these training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about this for years, right' that'd be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of fun earlier today, Like, so we started the

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<v Speaker 2>show kind of talking about some of the changes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still at Saint Vincent. It's still La Trobe. It's

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<v Speaker 2>still Chuck Nolefield. It's still Steelers training camp as it

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<v Speaker 2>has been I think for like sixty seven of the

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<v Speaker 2>last sixty nine years something like that, other than those

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<v Speaker 2>those two years during COVID where teams weren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>go off campus.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt one of the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that was an NFL role too. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>even like a Rooney decision or a decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the first time it made sense, everyone understood,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Second year it felt a little strict,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think that a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 2>black and gold circles were overly thrilled with the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>making them.

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<v Speaker 3>Go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got to support all of our businesses, local

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<v Speaker 2>businesses that we love out here.

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<v Speaker 4>But Matt, it was not just a new in the

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<v Speaker 4>sense of new head coach. A lot of different practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Times, you know, some of these new things. But you

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<v Speaker 2>and I earlier today had to put our best face forward.

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<v Speaker 3>That was not something I'm accustomed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely not so they This is Matt and I went

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<v Speaker 2>through maybe fifteen to twenty minutes with the Steelers video

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<v Speaker 2>guys and then with the photographers and uh and we

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<v Speaker 2>had to do different poses and walkouts and fist bumps

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and you throw this football and you had football. And

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<v Speaker 2>Matt was making fun of my spiral because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it really was not.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, I'm not a quarterback, all right, you know that

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<v Speaker 4>was a defensive guy like.

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<v Speaker 3>The hero though.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, okay, I think I think it's harder to

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<v Speaker 2>throw a spiral five yards away than it is fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>yards away because you can't really get a I was all.

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<v Speaker 3>So worried about clanking one off the I mean, I

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.000
<v Speaker 3>have a high release, you do, so I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to like clank it off all the stuff that they

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<v Speaker 3>built too.

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<v Speaker 4>They built this huge, awesome set and there's a runway

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 4>and there's some.

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Smoke machines, machines and smoke huge video behind you. I mean,

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 3>it's stuff like they should use for Aaron Rodgers and

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<v Speaker 3>t J.

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<v Speaker 4>Watt.

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<v Speaker 2>They do, right, but they so so Annie tweeted us

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<v Speaker 2>the Gift of Zoolander, you know, with uh with with

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson doing their best fashion impressions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was that was Matt and I earlier today certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, we are live for all of you wondering

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter, and you know with the with the bonus

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<v Speaker 2>third hour that we will have all throughout training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep those tweets rolling in and UH and Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>I will make sure to get to UH to those

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<v Speaker 2>every single day as we roll along. Matt, let's talk

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about some of the UH, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you want to call them, procedural moves made

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<v Speaker 2>by the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it ahead of topical ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Of training camp with I think namely Joey Porter Junior

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<v Speaker 2>and Jalen Ramsey both starting.

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<v Speaker 4>Camp on the pup list.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kent is on as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm glad you mentioned which.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a particularly noteworthy because they are all

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<v Speaker 3>three cornerbacks, you know, I mean, and Kent you feel

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 3>bad for because there's been a lot of instances what

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 3>was his name, Watts Watts with Texas that like, you know,

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:27.359
<v Speaker 3>late round pick that's not guaranteed anything. You start your

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>career injured in those first two years or so, no

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 3>matter how good you are, you're pretty much swimming up

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:35.880
<v Speaker 3>scream because you just don't have a chance to show anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel for him, and I kind of forgot

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<v Speaker 3>how the severity of his injury until it was reported

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<v Speaker 3>that he's starting on PUP, So we'll monitor that, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's not going to probably have a ton of time

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<v Speaker 3>to show off for the team. Maybe again, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how you know when he's gonna be back. What's

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<v Speaker 3>cool about pup. It's not like injury reserve you can

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 3>pull a guy off tomorrow. Ye, I mean, these days

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<v Speaker 3>come and go.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like the d L and Baseball or anything

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sixty day injured reserve or DL or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he's back here sooner than later, or maybe he's

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<v Speaker 3>an IR candidate for the whole year. I don't know, Ramsey,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess tweaked something.

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<v Speaker 2>In me that Omar Khan said in minicamp. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 2>said he should only be out for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, per general manager Omar Khan. Jalen Ramsey

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<v Speaker 2>suffered a knee injury during the team's mini camp, and

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<v Speaker 2>I quote, we're going to be smart about it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a pro. You guys know how hard he works.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had a guess, I would say it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a couple of weeks end quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I have sort of a tinfoil hat theory

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<v Speaker 3>on the Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 4>We play the conspiracy music.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I'm not saying he's not injured. We don't.

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<v Speaker 3>No one thinks he's got the catastrophic injury or if

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<v Speaker 3>this was Raven's week, that he wouldn't be practicing, you know,

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 3>And this is true all the way across the league.

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Also noted if you rewind twenty minutes, this new head

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>coach is very, very injury conscious and wants to get

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>his eyes to the starting line, which get used to it,

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you know. And however, there were two players and I

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 3>didn't attend Mini caamp in OTAs all that much at all,

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 3>but either way, you wouldn't have known these answers. There's

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>two players I really wanted to see usage here, Ramsey

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 3>Roger Jones, who will get to in a minute, because

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<v Speaker 3>he's also notable.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 4>He's in this conversation, but in an encouraging.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Way, right, And I wonder is the rest of the

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 3>league also interested in what they're gonna do? This is

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<v Speaker 3>my tenfoil half part. They've been kind of quiet when

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<v Speaker 3>all the Beat reporters saying, you know, when there's four

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 3>dbs out there, is Ramsey gonna be a safety. Is

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 3>he gonna be your Kyle Hamilton? Is he gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>your Derwin James Cooper, de Jene slot guy? And I

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 3>think he probably will be all those things. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he'll come off the field. I think they'll play

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 3>a ton of nickel the nickel the star position is

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<v Speaker 3>more important than ever and mentioned a couple of the

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 3>prominent names. But I also wonder if, hey, maybe we

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>don't need to reveal that to the world right now.

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Sure you know that every time that I've heard of

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 3>defensive coach being asked about it, they're pretty vague. And

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 3>maybe that just comes from the top. There's no reason

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 3>for the Falcons to know exactly what Ramsey's gonna do.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 3>I just have a hunch that they have big plans

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 3>for him that maybe we don't need to show the

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<v Speaker 3>world at late July.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think you might be onto something there.

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 2>And if I, uh, if I asked you to put

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>your tinfoil hat on with with Joey Porter Junior, do

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you think some of that is just obvious we're in

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>contract negotiations. Maybe it's a you know, a pseudo hold

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 2>in type thing, if you will, Yeah, you know, maybe

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 2>he had something little that he tweaked, and they just thought, hey,

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>let's you know, let's take our time with this.

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Think that. And again, I don't think this is like

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<v Speaker 3>unlawful or you know, like not breaking any rules.

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 4>No, not at all mischievous or anything like that.

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I was chatting with one of our

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 3>colleagues earlier, and you know, no one can really prove

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>if your backs up. Sure, you know, it's like good

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 3>not the next acting up up right now. I can

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 3>go on pump for one day or three days or whatever,

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 3>we can pull you right off. But my hunch is

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 3>sometime in these coming weeks he there will be an

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 3>announcement Joey Porter signs an extension with the Pittsburgh Steelers

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 3>for X amount of dollars and maybe not coincidentally, the

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 3>next day he's on the field. That's just my hunch,

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that will happen.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Keeping everybody safe, you know, right right, and and along.

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 2>The themes of kind of what we've been talking about

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>with Mike McCarthy right right right, of wanting to get

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>to that starting line it's July, with as much help

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>as possible. This is another something that Motes used to

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:49.159
<v Speaker 2>talk about like the first day out here, if you

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>even are one hundred percent at that point, that's the

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 2>last time you're one hundred percent.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 3>It's all downhill from me.

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you might get to the regular season at ninety

0:27:58.400 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>seven ninety eight percent.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Love these percents that people give to like it's.

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>A video game or your health, you know, Yeah, but

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 2>like this is the last time you're truly if you

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>can even come in here with a clean bill.

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Of health, this is good.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 4>This is as good as it gets. And so hey

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 4>preserve that as long as you can.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stay as close to one hundred as you can,

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 3>because there's gonna be times you're again. I don't know

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 3>the percentages. You might be a thirty or you know.

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 3>So the longer you can keep yourself in tip top shape,

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the better. And I think this head coach very much

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 3>embraces that.

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes he does, and we have we've seen that, we've

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>heard that just a just a small snapshot today, but

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 2>it was a and I should be fair. The first

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>practice is always a little bit shorter.

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 4>It's true. It's acclimation periods.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>The first time out here, you kind of get everybody

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>where they need to be and lay the groundwork and

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>get things started and make sure you uh you know,

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>live to to continue to fight many many many more

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>days out here. It also sounds like Matt that you

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 2>know from from uh and we'll we'll hear a little

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>bit from Mike McCarthy and some of the things that

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>he had to say today, but today, and I think

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 2>it was on Monday, either Monday or yesterday, Tuesday when

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>he kind of did his pre training camp press conference

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>talking about just how much of this was going to

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>be detail oriented, coaching oriented, and at what seems like

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Matt that evening film sessions are going to be a

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>big part of this training camp too.

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, not that they weren't again, but I'm sure that

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>some teams are some coaching a stress different things more

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>than others.

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>When you're practicing until five, yeah, and then you're out

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>on the field for another half an hour to do

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>an extra work, and then you gotta get changed, then

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you got to dinner, then you gotta get treatment. The

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 2>evening zaps up pretty quickly as opposed to now where

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>these guys still have a lot of hours in the day.

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense, makes sense, And I meant to say

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 3>this too that by no means after watching acclamation practice one,

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 3>they're not standing around doing nothing. No, I mean there's

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 3>still a lot, a lot of coaching going on. I

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 3>would think a lot of fundamental stuff, a lot of

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 3>mental stuff. These are two new systems. Let's take it

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>from the whiteboard to the field. It wasn't like Watt

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>and Hayward and Frasier and Metcalf and those guys are

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 3>just standing around with their helmets. They're all out on

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>the field doing being coached up. You know. It's just

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 3>they're just not banging.

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<v Speaker 2>They absolutely not yet, and we'll see some of it.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>We will definitely see some of it. They're not gonna

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>pillow fight out here for a three weeks, but it's

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a very interesting process to follow, a different process, certainly.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 4>The one that we've seen over the last nineteen years.

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Matt.

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>There was good news on the pup list, and that

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>revolving around Roderick Jones, a first round pick, former first

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>round pick for the Steelers, who has a lot on

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>the line this year for both his Black and Gold

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>future and his future in the National Football League. Let's

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about some good news there and

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>just some early thoughts on this offensive line that really

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>feels like a major make or break. How does it

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>all come together? How good can they be for the

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Steelers and for the offense this season. We'll do that

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<v Speaker 2>So we discussed some of the hits to the pup

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 2>list now, namely all in the Steelers secondary for the

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>past worm there all at one position, But there was

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>good news, surprising news, I think, Matt from whence we

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>last heard an update on Roger Jones's health. There were

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>questions about if he would even be ready for the

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>start of training camp, if we would see him at

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>all during this process, of course, recovering from that neck

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>injury that he sustained in Chicago this past winter, past fall,

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>past season. Well, Matt, not only is Roger Jones not

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>starting training camp on the pup list, he was out

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>here today and active at the first practice.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was. And it was a small sample size

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 3>because we'd go do our photo shoot and runway stuff

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>and all that, and you know, again, they're not banging,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you know. But from what I saw, it looked it

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 3>looked like he was playing left tackle as Falton, who's backup.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Now, I think there's a lot of options for him.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, could he compete with Max and Cook at

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 3>the right tackle spot. We've seen him play both. Could

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 3>he just be the backup left tackle? I think either

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 3>one of those are possible. They could bounce them back

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 3>and forth. I saw a little bit of Cook lining

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>up on the left side too. He's also done both

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>over his career. Could Jones get involved with the right

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 3>guard battle.

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 4>I think anything is possible.

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, I think he's a real wild card. And

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 3>really has been for different reasons throughout the course of

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 3>his career. But I'm not saying the old OH line

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>coach is bad. But you have a new O line coach,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe they unlock some things with him. He has shown

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 3>spurts of playing really well. It's the problem is his

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>lows are just two lows.

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 3>He gets particularly in past blocking. When he gets beat,

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 3>he gets beat quick and bad.

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like a zero out of ten. Yeah, It's not

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a five or a six. It's like he'll put he'll

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 2>put in a bunch of seven and eight's out of

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>ten and then a zero.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And that's rough because it's really hard to trust

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 3>your blind side protector and that capacity to because you

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>never know when it's coming. And there's been times over

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 3>his career where in the run blocking game, I don't

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 3>say he didn't know who to block, but he also

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>was not getting to where he needed to be consistently,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, And if you got a run play and

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 3>one guy blows his block, the other four could be

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>perfect and the play might still get blown up. So

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>just too much inconsistency. But it was very talented. He's

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>getting a new coaching staff, a new scheme, maybe new positions.

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm just real curious to see where they line him up.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 3>And I guess I haven't brought this up enough on

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>these airwaves because we've been on for a while. Either.

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 3>If you look at McCarthy's history, this really goes back

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 3>to Green Bay and green Bay still this way. They

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 3>did it with Tyron Smith, who was a really, really

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 3>good tackle first round pick, moved them to guard and

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 3>he might be the best guard in the league in Dallas,

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.919
<v Speaker 3>but they will play tackles at guard more than maybe

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 3>any coaching group in the league.

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 3>They able to get their best five out there, and hey,

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I'll put the six to five guy that can handle

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 3>the power over the six to three stumpy dude, you know.

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 3>And so maybe he factors in more than you think,

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>is all I'm saying. There's just a lot of avenues

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>that he can influence things. There's a lot Maybe it

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>looks great and they trade him for a third um,

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 4>There's there's a lot of avenues that he can influence things.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of options in a lot of ways

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to deploy this offensive line, which feels way different than

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>this time last year.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Matt where we liked. We liked the starting five, but

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 4>there was a lot.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Of questions about depth behind them and what happens if

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>somebody goes down. And thankfully Dylan Cooked proved that he

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 2>could play a role out there.

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you found something there.

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Anderson proved that he could play a role out there.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>But this year, I mean, you you just.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Keep drafting tackles. This is what happened.

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>To just keep drafting tackles, and you still have McCormick,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and you still have Jennings Dunker, and you still have

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>brock Hoffman, and you still have Spencer Anderson and man.

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 4>Just that's one of the things.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>When Micha McCarthy spoke today, he talked about, you know,

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>keeping an eye out for different combinations, like it's one

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 2>of the things that he mentioned was kind of versatility

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>is always key for your first couple of practices, but

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>especially those combinations on the offensive line. He advised paying

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>less attention to the starting five at this juncture and

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>more to which offensive linemen are working together. So like,

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>for example, one snap, you could see Dylan Cook and

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Anderson on the right side, which is what we

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 2>saw to start today, which is what we saw back

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>at OTA's at Mini camp. Then it could be Anderson

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and Maxie on a chore. Uh you know, you could

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>have Faltonu and McCormick on the left side. Brock Hoffman's

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna get some opportunity to bump in there. It also

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>sounds like, according to to Mike McCarthy, that we might see, uh,

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, brock Hoffman take some reps at center whenever

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Zach Frazier he's listed.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>On the depth start or on the official roster as

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 3>a center that before we went on the air. So

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 3>he'll do all three. He'll he'll he'll play both.

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Guards, and he's one of those guys I think that

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you want as part of your equation who can really

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 2>play all three. It's it's a strength to play all

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>three of those interior positions. But Matt, they have to

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>figure route still the best five. There's maybe more questions

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 2>about the best five this year than there has been

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.919
<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of years. But I think that's

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>because you can legitimately see eight different guys really being

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in that conversation.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, which is exactly how Omar has always wanted it

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 3>since his first draft when he did draft Fraser and

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Jones and those guys because we have those same conversations.

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Then it's like, boy, what James Daniels gets hurt and

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 3>her big gets hurt and the young guys never gave

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.720
<v Speaker 3>the job up because they had a wealth of these dudes,

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 3>and maybe they were taken the job sooner than later anyways,

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 3>especially at center. But I found it interesting. I think.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure I sent it to you.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>But.

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I was listening to a podcast over the last two

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 3>weeks where someone was really talking about how valuable every

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 3>team's sixth offensive lineman is, and no matter how this

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 3>shakes out, I think the Steelers sixth though lineman and

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 3>probably seventh, they'll probably be a tackles or six and

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 3>an interior guy like Hoffin is your seventhing to be

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 3>better than most teams? You know? So, But I don't

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 3>remember the number exactly, but I think it's somewhere along

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 3>the lines of if you take every team starting five

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 3>in Week one, whoever they put out there in the

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 3>first snap of the NFL season, how many snaps other

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 3>than those five do NFL teams average from offensive linemen,

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 3>And it's like seven hundred over the course of a year.

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's maybe throwing a six guy out there

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 3>for a couple of plays, your guard gets heart for

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 3>three weeks, you lose your left tackle for sixteen games,

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 3>and you got to play twelve or twelve hundred snaps there.

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 3>So that's six guys almost like the sixth guy in

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 3>the NFL or in the NBA, like you better be good.

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>The Steelers had some immaculate luck back in the the

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 3>Castro Pouncy years where they didn't have to dig into

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>their depth, but almost every team does. And if your

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 3>six and seventh guys are highly capable of playing six hundred,

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>seven hundred snaps and you know, it's a difference, but

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 3>it's not a catastrophic difference, I think you're in really

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 3>good shape. And not to mention that the youth there,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean a lot of these guys. Best football is

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 3>probably ahead of them.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 4>It absolutely is. And yeah, you're right, man.

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>There was that stretch there when the Steelers offensive line,

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, Dan Moore Junior and Kevin Dotson and Mason

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Cole like, those guys had a insanely I guess you

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>could call it lucky.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>They played a lot of STAPs.

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 2>I think between all that one year, I think between

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 2>all five starting offensive linemen, one of them missed one game,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and that was it.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Like that, just two or three years in a row,

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 3>they were like the luckiest line in the league in

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 3>terms of injuries.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 4>And then we saw it go the reverse way.

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Like you talked about where you lost Nate Herbert early

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>on in training camp, you lost Faltanu and James Daniels

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>early in the season.

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 3>What if you hadn't drafted three that year draft and

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 3>three offensive linemans A lot, a lot, yeah, yeah.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you thought you could stash McCormick and really

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>let him develop and marinate and take his time, and

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden early in the season, Daniels goes down.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it was an Indianapolis I want to say,

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and and.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 4>There you go.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, we're hoping, Matt that that is not the

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 2>case that you have the good injury luck this year.

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And then you know what if you got eight or

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 2>nine guys who could play and you have some injury

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 2>fortune things, you know, guys stay healthy, That's when I

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>think you can start fielding some phone calls too, like

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>you were mentioning, because I know this is something that

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 2>is always discussed around the draft and the combine and

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>free agency. But we know offensive line play across the

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 2>board in the NFL right now is maybe the weakest

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>overall positional group.

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, especially when you look at who they have to block.

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>You look at all these apex predators on the defensive

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>lines that continue to get one hundred million dollar contracts. Hey,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>having a lot of guys who are viable is very important,

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>and the Steelers might be, uh, they might even have

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 2>an abundance of riches in that in that department.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>So I've read some O line rankings, you know, one

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to thirty two, and not the contradict what you said,

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 3>But when I was starting at the bottom, I kind

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 3>of thought, boy, some of these bad old lines are

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<v Speaker 3>a little better than I thought, you know, the Browns,

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<v Speaker 3>the Texans, all these ones that have totally revamped themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And then it dawned on me. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>they do in July. But the second one guy goes

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<v Speaker 3>down and you got to dig into that six and

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred snaps per year or whatever it is, or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe more. Some of these lines are walking a thin,

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<v Speaker 3>thin ice, you know, not hoping to hope to fall in.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think the Steelers are in that boat.

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<v Speaker 4>I do not think so either. I think, in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>the ice is pretty thick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like the pond hockey ice that was

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<v Speaker 2>playing on back in January, matt when it was single

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<v Speaker 2>degree temperatures for three straight weeks in western Pennsylvania could

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<v Speaker 2>have drilled into that ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby. My dad told a story on vacation the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>They used to fish a ton and the four of

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<v Speaker 3>them that would always go fishing, the heaviest dude was

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that would walk out on the ice first,

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<v Speaker 3>and they'd just tie a rope around him because we'll

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<v Speaker 3>follow you, you know. So Bob Dolan, big big heavy

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<v Speaker 3>Bob walks out there, falls through. They pull him in,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, dry him off, get him the car, dry

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<v Speaker 3>him off. They fish for the day, and then they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're coming on the way home. They're like, let's stop

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<v Speaker 3>at Lake Arthur too. You know, we we we've been

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to hit here for a while or whatever. Bob

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<v Speaker 3>going out there falls twice a day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a scary problem. There's been there's been a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times in my pond hockey days that you hear

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<v Speaker 2>that run and you're like, all right, boys, what's up? Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>try in next weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Hour of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Books two more hours to go. We got to go

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<v Speaker 2>around the league with some other big news. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from some of these Steelers after today's practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Hayward spoke our King, Zach Fraser spoke Mason Rudolph,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Pittman Junior.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw a lot of different stuff to get to

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<v Speaker 4>here over the next two.

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<v Speaker 3>Hours's a good looking cat by the way, if you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen him in person yet, he is pretty Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're huge, man. I mean there's pass catchers are giganormous.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever heard Matt Williamson disc I'm

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Steelers is pretty, So I'll take his.

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<v Speaker 4>Word for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Four ripped up looks looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks prettier than the girlfriends that I used to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Hour of the Books, two more hours to go. Yeueler

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