1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Union with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. Welcome to this 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: week's Ozone podcast and the guest today. I'm excited about 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of fans are excited to 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: learn about the Jaguars coaching staff, to learn about these 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: guys who are gonna be leaving the team in the future. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Today's guest, defensive coordinator Mike called Well, Mike, I appreciate 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: you join us. Well, thanks for having me and I 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: guess just talk about this opportunity. It's a chance of 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: a lifetime. You've been waiting going through the ranks, saying 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: finally get the opportunity. Um, thankful for Doug and uh 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Jaguar organization to have me with the coordinator and I'm 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: ready to go. How how did that happen? What was 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: your relationship with Doug and sort of how did that develop? We? Uh, 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: we played together back in Philadelphia and we worked together. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: We both were quality control coaches breaking into the league 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: and just develop a relationship or friendship there and he 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: just carried over throughout the years and he got this opportunity, 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: which I was grateful for, and he uh brought me along. Now, 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: when you were playing, I was coaching something you wanted 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: to do. Was it always in the back of your 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: mind or how it How did that start? Really? Uh, 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't. Coach Read had asked me one time on 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: a practice field, if you once you're retired, if you 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: want to coach, come talk to me. I was like, 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: there's no way in the world. I coached, and then 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: it ended up. I have three kids, and my oldest 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: daughter I was coaching her co ed basketball team, and 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I just got the bug there did the minority internship, 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: loved it, and I've been coaching ever since. Now your 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: relationship with Doug did you got I guess you guys 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: never talked about coaching, never really talked about that when 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: you were together when you played, right, Yes, not until 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: we were together coaching. Okay, What was it that appealed 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: to you about coach change? Why this path? It was 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: when I did the internship, just getting back around the guys, 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: being able to instill my knowledge onto the players, and 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: from there just it was just natural I could consider 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: myself a teacher and just being able to go out 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: there and teach younger guys. And that you've been through 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the same position they're going through, and just helped him 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: understand the game and helped him grow as players and people. Now, 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: what did Andy Reid say he saw in you that 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: made you him believe that? I don't know what he saw, 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: but he we were were I was stretching and he 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: came in and he the question came up to me, 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: and I was kind of caught me off guard, but uh, 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: he said, no way, I want to work, No way 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: all those long hours. And I was like, you know, 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: after getting into it, Uh, if something you love, it's 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: really not work. And I love coaching, so it works 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: out good. What is it about Doug Peterson that inspired 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: confidence to make this move? For you? Really? Just uh, 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: knowing Doug as a player, then also as a young 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: coach and seeing his passion the intelligence when your quality control, 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you kind of get a feel of the whole organization, 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: and we both were in that position. So being able 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: to sit there and talk to him late nights and 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: just understanding that his vision and then seeing what he 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: did in Philadelphia, it was just the opportunity for me 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: that you know, no brainer. What is Todd Bowles meant 62 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: to your career? He's been a great influence. UM, not 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: only Todd, but Jim Johnson, UM, John Harball, just different 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: different people throughout my career have been great influence, but 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: TODs specifically it's really Uh when he got the Philadelphia 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: with me, it was we saw things similar, not always 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: a light but very similar. And his approach to the 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: game as far as pressure packages with the Jim also 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: was really fond of. Yes, So just being able to 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: understand that when you're on defense you're able to dictate 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: to the offense. It's always a plus for you. So 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: that my next question is going to be philosophy. It 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: sounds like if you have if you have a philosophy, 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: that's it, but the defense can dictate. That's the thing. 75 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: We want to go out there. We want to be aggressive. 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: We want to play aggressive style defense. Want to attack 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: the offense and make them adjust us and understand what 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: they're doing and just be able to go out there 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: and have fun and fly around and make place how 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: closely or how much I guess the question is did 81 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: you talk to Tied about defensive coordinator responsibilities and what 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: do you expect the transition? Uh, maybe the biggest challenge 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: I think we've were together so long I was able 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: to understand some of us the role and now being 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: put into that role, just understanding that you know, you 86 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: have a plan detailed, detailed about it. And it goes 87 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: back to teaching. I'm able to teach my coaches what 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: I know, what I want to get accomplished, and then 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: we'll all teach that to the players, and if you 90 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: communicate and get everybody on the same page, success will come. 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: Played eleven years for I think a million teams, Well, yeah, 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: a lot um. How does that help? Not only uh 93 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: haven't played so long, they haven't played for so many 94 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: different organizations. Does that help you relate to I guess 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: all levels of players. I guess it does. Because you've 96 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: been in so many locker rooms with so many different 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: personalities you can adjust. And again goes back to teaching. 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: When one guy see it this way and called it this, 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: and then you're on two or three different teams, you 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: can relate to that person to understand what he's thinking 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: and then put your terminology to his mindset, and then 102 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: it's easier for the transition. Now you've listed off a 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: bunch of guys you've been around read and you started 104 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: out with Belichick and Uh. Uh so that's a lot 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: of guys who've had a lot of success. Um, what 106 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: did you take from each of them? Uh? I guess 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: it's in terms of leadership really, leadership wise, first thing, 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: you have to have a trust of your players. You 109 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: have to show them that you care about them and 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: that you're on the same page with them. And that 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: page is we're all trying to get better, we're all 112 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: trying to win, and that's the main focus. We want 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: to bring championships to any organization. The spoke about it earlier. 114 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: We want to bring a championship to this organization and 115 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: that's what we're here to do. And if everybody's on 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: the same page, we can all work for that one 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: common goal and that's what uh everybody is trying to 118 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: do is win. Now, you played a long time and 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: looking back, you played a lot of games against the Jaguars. 120 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: When you played, you played against him when you were 121 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and Baltimore. Any memories at all from those 122 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: games and stand out. One thing that stands out is 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: when the stadium starts chanting Duvall. That's that's pretty powerful. 124 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: That's the That's the big thing that stands out. I 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: know you haven't done a deep dive, so to speak, 126 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: on the defense yet, but early impressions of what you've 127 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: got to work with. The first thing you see as 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: the entire defense is how hard they play. You turn 129 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: on the film and you look like these guys are 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: getting after it. These guys are tough upfront. Uh, Miles 131 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: talked to him. I spoke with him yesterday, and he's 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: the guy that flies around on the second level. And 133 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: then in the secondary you have a mixture of young 134 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: guys and some veteran guys that you have a group 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that again, the thing that stands out is how hard 136 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: they play and you see the passion about it. And 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: then talking to a few of the guys, Uh, you 138 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: know they want to win, and that's what we're here for. 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: Do you anticipate major change in terms of how these 140 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: players I have to play for you, in terms of scheme, 141 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: personal how they'll fit. I think, Uh, it's really not 142 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: a scheme I'm really looking for. I'm trying to put 143 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: our players in the best position to utilize their ability. 144 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: And that's why we're gonna do it. Whether it's three 145 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: four or four three. When't get the guys out there 146 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that are making plays and let him go out there 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: and do it. You said at the top, opportunity the lifetime. 148 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Excited about it, Oh, really excited about it. Uh anxious, 149 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: ready to get get my hands on the guys. And 150 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, right now we're going through with the coaching staff, 151 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: which is great, being able to teach those guys what 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: we're going to get accomplished and then being able to 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: have it trickled down to the players. My Callbo, congratulations 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: on the opportunity. We look forward to working with you 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: and thank you for being on the A Zone podcast. 156 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me