1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: He's joining us now on the telephone line. Congressman Andy Levin, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: he is a Democrat from Michigan's ninth congressional district. He 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: is a member of the Committee on Education and Labor 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and on the Committee on Foreign Relations. Congress been great 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: to have you back. Let me play for you a 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: sound bite from FED Chairman J. Powell. He testified on 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the hill today, not before your committee, but he talked 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: about inflation pressures, which he believes are going to be temporary. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what he had to say, and 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: then I want to get your reaction to it. Here 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: is in the near term, we do expect, as many 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: forecasters do, that there will be some upward pressure on prices, 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: and also there'll be a technical thing of base effects, 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: as the very low readings from April April, in March 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: of last year drop out of the twelve year calculation. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: We don't expect that those that that upward pressure will 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: produce uh substantially higher prices, or that the effects will 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: be persistent. We expect that they'll be transitory or temporary. Congressman, 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: inflation are the union workers? Are they worried about it? 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: These are your pete Well? Are they are they worried 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: about inflation. No, Kevin, I don't think inflation is at 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the center of people's mind right now. I mean, we're 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: in the middle of a of the biggest public health 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: crisis in a hundred years. We've got still very high unemployment. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of people out of the workforce 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: altogether who really want to work. You know, we've got 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: a over well over a million jobs lost in the 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: public sector, so we're we've got to get everybody back 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: to work. And I don't think inflation is um you know, 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: a real center central concern. I think the Fed Chairman 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: is right in his assessment. You know, you're on the 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Subcommittee on Asia, the Pacific, Central Asia and the Non 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Proliferation or the vice chairman of that, as well as 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere, Civilian Concern, Security, Migration, 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: and International Economic Policy. I want to talk to you 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: about domestic manufacturing. I was struck by the twenty billion 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: dollars that Intel invested in the United States to help 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: share up some of the supply chains for the semiconductor 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: chip shortage. That hopefully will create some some American jobs 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: and diversify the supply chain. I wanted to get your 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: reaction to that, but also to to to to see 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: what we could glean from you about just how important 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: it is to diversify from China, but in a way 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: to also provide jobs here and and link that diversification 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: to manufacturing jobs. Kevin, it's hugely, hugely important. At long last, 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: we need to have an industrial policy in this country. 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, people have have relied on tired stereotypes and 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: you know things like, oh, well, you know we can't 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: make things here because people make too much money, or 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: you know they're too highly unionized. Well, i mean, look 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: at Germany, much more highly unionized in the United States, 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: much higher labor costs in the United States, and Germany 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: literally has gets twice as much of its GDP from 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: manufacturing as the US does, not more more twice as much. 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: We need. We've we've seen the national security requirements too, 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: for because of PPE and vaccine supplies for COVID. We've 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: seen are the inability of our car companies to finish 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: making cars because they we don't have the chips they need. 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got to rebuild manufacturing in this country. 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: And then look at climate change. Nobody's even talking about this, 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: but we we we really can't be shipping things around 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the world so much that could be made all over 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: the place. And that's the way not only to rebuild 64 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: manufacturing here, but to help, say, our poorer neighbors in 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the Western hemisphere getting the game. Some talk about a 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: response to Belt and Row that you know of China. 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: What if the US led a massive climate change initiative 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: in the Western hemisp fear where we said, Okay, we've 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: got to do a huge amount more of offshore wind, 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: onshore wind, solar, solar, thermal, geo thermal battery storage. That's 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of manufacturing. Let's make a lot of it 72 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: here and and you know, sell it or on subsidized 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: terms to our neighbors and then help them begin to 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: manufacture stuff with their own needs. And you know, I 75 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: think we need a real renaissance of manufacturing. It's great jobs. 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: It's a lot of union jobs. The know how goes 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: where the manufacturing is. Cos you're making stuff here, you know, 78 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: we're not going to have the engineering and research either. Congressmen, 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: you represent Detroit's northern and northeastern suburbs. The ninth Congressional 80 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: District of Michigan. I mean you mentioned a resurgence of 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: manufacturing as well as trying to have some some effect 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: on changing the global policies regarding climate change. But let 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: me let me press you on the cellar panels. I mean, 84 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: this is right up your right up your alley, solar panels, polysilicon. 85 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean half of the global supply of poly silicon 86 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: comes from the Shinjang province of China. I mean, and 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: we all know about the human rights abuses. President Biden 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: the other week joining the UK EU issuing some important 89 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: important sanctions against some individuals for their cooperation with the 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Communist Party of China in order to to do those 91 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: horrific human rights abuses against the weaker Muslim minorities. But 92 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: how crucial is it that there's rare earth and minerals 93 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: and metals that we that you know, maybe we diversify 94 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: if we can't do it here in the United States 95 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: to other parts of the world with our allies. It's 96 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: it's absolutely crucial. You know, the President Biden has brought 97 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: a measure of sanity back to our foreign policy. We 98 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: need to work. China is a huge problem in many 99 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: different ways. Intellectual property fast currency, manipulation, unfair right in 100 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: other ways, but we can't human human well, human rights 101 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: abuses massively, not only in Saint John, which is probably 102 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: the worst, but to beat Hong Kong and on and on. 103 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: So we need to uh tackle China. We need to 104 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: get all our allies together and confront China as a 105 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: group to say, well, you know, we'll trade with you, 106 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: but you've got to trade on fair terms. We're not 107 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: going to shut up when you violate people's human rights, 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: when you have people working in forced labor camps. And 109 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: we need to shine light on any American and other 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: Western companies that make goods with you know, that are 111 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: made with parts or or materials that come from Sin John. 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: So we absolutely need to diversify and we need to 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: stand up for human rights around the world. And I 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: think Joe Biden's off to a really good start in 115 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: that regard. Representative loving it's Genie Chanzano. It's good to 116 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: talk to you. I hope you're doing well. I I'm 117 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: with thing to this conversation about a resurgence and a 118 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: renaissance of manufacturing. And one of the things that I've 119 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: been able to work on a little bit is the 120 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: pro promises on both the right and the left, going 121 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: back several election cycles to bring jobs back to the 122 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: United States. And yet what that conversation seems to miss 123 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: is the fact that many of these jobs haven't gone abroad, 124 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: They've gone to AI. So I'm wondering what Congress can 125 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: do and what you can do, And I know this 126 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: impacts your district a lot in terms of jobs that 127 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: have gone to artificial intelligence, and how we can prepare 128 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the workforce for that transition, which is you know, big 129 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: and promises to get bigger, absolutely well, and just technological 130 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: change of all kinds. You know, in the night. I 131 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: gotta get my hands on the specific issue better sometimes 132 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: that I did. The cover of Time magazine had Flint, 133 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Michigan on it, and I think GM employed eighty or 134 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand people in Flint alone building car ours 135 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: and it was the highest meeting income city in America. 136 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Today GM employees people in the entire United States. Yeah, 137 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: you're so right about you know that that the nature 138 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: of work is changing. What we have to do is 139 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: two things. Number One, we have to give workers the 140 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: freedom to form unions and have a seat at the 141 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: table so they can sit with their executives of their 142 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: company planned together and not feel like they are on 143 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: the chopping block. Secondly, we've got to have a much 144 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: more robust workforce education system so that people can train 145 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: and retrain throughout their careers as the technology changes, and 146 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: those both of those things are quite possible. Again, if 147 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: you look at some of our European friends slash competitors, 148 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, they put a lot more money into their 149 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: human capital so that they're not you know, workers in 150 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Sweden where the where people have unions, aren't really afraid 151 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: of technological change. They want their company to be the 152 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: most efficient and cutting edge it can be so they 153 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: can thrive over time. But they're not worried about their 154 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: jobs because they have a seat at the table. So 155 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I think we can have a higher road approach and 156 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: have the US be much more competitive, um, you know, 157 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: on on the global scene, but also lead in a 158 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: way much better. And you know, I think we react 159 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: to the Chinese Belt and Road initiative defensively and reactively. 160 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Take wait a minute, were the United States we have 161 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: were the center of innovation and creativity. Let's let's let's 162 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: leverage all that to be a you know, a great 163 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: partner to the smaller countries and you know, help them thrive. 164 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: And if we do, we'll blow the Chinese you know, 165 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: efforts out of the water, which involves a lot of 166 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: pressure countries and a lot of loans that they have 167 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: to pay back. So I think we could do a lot. 168 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: It comes down to trust, comes down to trust, and 169 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: people don't I mean, people don't trust the Communist Party 170 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: of China. Look, congress Or Nandy Levin's with us. He's 171 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: a Democrat from Michigan. I want to keep it domestic, 172 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: just to to to piggyback off of what Jennie Shnzano, 173 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: our Bloomberg Politics contributor, was just alluding to, and and 174 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: that that you had just mentioned. You know that it 175 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: used to be all politics, all politics is personal. Well 176 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: now all politics is plastic and all policy is personal. 177 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: And so when we're having a conversation about reworking the 178 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: energy sector, not just in the United States but globally, candidly, 179 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: I hear this from folks back home, which is, where's 180 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: the money for retraining if you're going to have whether 181 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: it's a stimulus package or past executive orders, uh, under 182 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the under the notion of addressing climate change, Well, what 183 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with refinery workers? And so you 184 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,359 Speaker 1: alluded to to what Switzerland does, but Germany does. But Congressman, 185 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: where is the money to retrain employees not just when 186 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: they're fresh out of college, not just with um A 187 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: schools and teenagers and going into vocational training programs, but 188 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: at forty years old and their fifties, and yes, even 189 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: in their sixties, so that they can continue to have 190 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: economic income, good paying quality jobs. Now you're really getting 191 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: into my train. So this the first of all, this, 192 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: this has got to become a thing to talk about 193 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg. What here I am, Delco has arrived. Yeah, 194 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: what a what a boiler maker, a pipe fitter or 195 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: a lap or says, would you tell them to go? 196 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, you're not gonna work in the fossil fuel 197 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: industry anymore. You go put up solar panels, they say, 198 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: blank blank you yeah, those aren't. And well, the so 199 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the first thing that has to have been I've been 200 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: hit on this over and over again, as we've got 201 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: to pass the Proact and restore the freedom to form 202 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: unions and bargain collectively in this country so that those 203 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: so that all those new industry jobs can be good 204 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: middle class jobs, just like the auto and rubber and 205 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: steel industries, which were horrible, low paying interest job a 206 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: hundred years ago. We're turned into the aristocracy in the 207 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: middle class because the workers organized. And you know, I've 208 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: just been down in Bestment, Alabama, at the Amazon facility. 209 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: You know that's one whole thing. But on your other point, 210 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: how do I know it can be done? Because I 211 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: already did it. You know, I ran the Michigan workforce 212 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: system for the whole forty nine months when Michigan forty 213 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: nine straight months we had the highest unemployment rate of 214 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: any state. And I we created a program called called 215 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: No Worker Left Behind. It was essentially a free college program. 216 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: Every worker, unemployed or unemployed worker could get up to 217 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: two years of free tuition up to ten thous dollars 218 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: worth at any Michigan community college or university or approved 219 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: training program too, as long as they studied for the skills, certificates, 220 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: or degrees needed for an in demand job in Michigan. 221 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: And people said, oh, Michigan, they're like you said, they're thirty, 222 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: they're forty. We work with our hands in Michigan. They 223 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: don't want to go to school. They don't want to 224 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: be next to some kid who's with tattoos and you 225 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: know whatever their stereotype is of young people. You know what, Kevin, 226 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: we got eighty three counties in Michigan. We had a 227 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: waiting list for no worker left behind in eighty three counties, 228 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: and we put one hundred and sixty two thousand Michigan 229 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: workers back to school. The vast majority of them got 230 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: jobs in you know, healthcare, nanotechnology, robotics, other advanced manufacturing areas. 231 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: I t so we we can do it, but you're right, 232 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: we haven't invested at itately. Wanted what Joe watch what 233 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden proposes that I was just at the White 234 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: House yesterday meeting with his chief of staff and his 235 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: other top lieutenant. The degree to which they want to 236 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: partner with us is still kind of amazing to me. 237 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: And um, you know they are going to workforce is 238 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: going to be a central part of what they propose 239 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: in the coming year. I still I still say, I mean, 240 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: and this is where I'm going to be geographically biased 241 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: given where I grew up. People want to work. They 242 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: don't want to they don't want to not have a job. 243 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: People want to work. It's a uniquely American spirit uh 244 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: notion and and and and you know, and encouraging people 245 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: to want to work, to want to get back to 246 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: the office, to want to to to create, to to elevate, 247 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: to to to to really get on there and contribute, 248 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: to make a contribution to to society. That's American. That's 249 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: uniquely American. Congressman Andy Levin, always the pleasure, Thanks so 250 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: much for stopping by and not talking about policy issues. 251 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: All policy is personal. That's Congressman Andy Levin. He's a 252 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Democrat from Michigan.