WEBVTT - Tech News: OpenAI's New GPT Won't Destroy The World. Probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Be there

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host Jonathan Strickland,

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond Executive producer with iHeartRadio and how the tech are you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the tech news for Thursday March sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, and we're back on the Big Topic

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three AI, although artificial intelligence should really

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<v Speaker 1>watch it's back because if more tech related financial institutions

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<v Speaker 1>fail this year, I think there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>new contender for the Big Topic of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>But this week open ai announced the release of GPT four.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the large language model that is now multimodal.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's break this down. So first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>GPT stands for generative pre train transformer. The word transformer

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<v Speaker 1>in this case doesn't refer to either a robot in

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<v Speaker 1>disguise or the device that can step voltage up or

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<v Speaker 1>down with alternating current. Instead, this kind of transformer is

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<v Speaker 1>a type of machine learning model that Google first introduced

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty seventeen. The word generative indicates that it's

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<v Speaker 1>capable of creating something generating something as for a multimodal

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<v Speaker 1>that means this new version of GPT can accept different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of input prompts to create output. So previously GPT

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<v Speaker 1>could only accept text, but now it can also accept images,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can give analysis of those images or presumably

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<v Speaker 1>incorporate those images into responses, like maybe you could ask

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<v Speaker 1>GPT who is the person in this picture? Or how

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<v Speaker 1>many elements are in this photograph? Or can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a story about what is in this picture? That

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. GPT four also seriously ups the word

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<v Speaker 1>count on its responses. So the previous version GPT three

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<v Speaker 1>point five, that's the version that actually powers chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 1>it could create a response of around three thousand words max.

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<v Speaker 1>But GPT four can get positively low quacious and provide

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<v Speaker 1>deep responses to queries that could go up to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand words. So now we're getting into like Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>in a casual conversation level here text stuff episode. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, it's also apparently better at playing by the

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<v Speaker 1>rules that open ai has set. That is, it is

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<v Speaker 1>less likely than chat GPT three point five to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to requests that would break policy, you know, stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>generating hate speech or responding to requests to cause problems

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<v Speaker 1>within a community, it is less likely to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>not completely impervious to it, but it's better than the

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<v Speaker 1>previous generations were. Developers will also have a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>options when they use GPT as part of their apps.

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<v Speaker 1>They can even shape how the AI will respond to

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<v Speaker 1>a user. They can adjust stuff like the tone and

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<v Speaker 1>the style of responses. So if you have something that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a say, a fun and silly app that for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason needs to tap into the power of GPT,

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<v Speaker 1>you could adjust the tone to be more lighthearted and

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<v Speaker 1>playful rather than stick with the standard tone and style

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<v Speaker 1>of the normal response, which is what previous generations of

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<v Speaker 1>GPT were stuck with. And in a demonstration, open Ai

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<v Speaker 1>showed that GPT four can even do some pretty astonishing stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>some advanced tasks. So, for example, you could write an

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<v Speaker 1>idea for a basic website right like you're using a

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<v Speaker 1>notepad and you're writing out your concept or your website.

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<v Speaker 1>You can then feed that concept to GPT and it

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<v Speaker 1>could actually create the website complete with basic functionality. So

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<v Speaker 1>the example I saw had GPT produce a website based

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<v Speaker 1>around jokes, so you would get the setup of the

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<v Speaker 1>joke appearing as text and then to get the punchline,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to click on a little box that

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<v Speaker 1>would reveal what the punchline was to the joke. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was all prompted by some pretty simple notes about

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<v Speaker 1>the parameters for this website. Like it wasn't copying the note,

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<v Speaker 1>it was taking the notes as directions and then making

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<v Speaker 1>the website based on those directions. That's pretty cool. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it still has a lot of the problems of earlier

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<v Speaker 1>generations of GPT. Its responses can still be inaccurate and misleading.

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<v Speaker 1>The common term I've seen in this are hallucinations, where

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<v Speaker 1>the response ends up not being an accurate representation. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a hallucination. I don't really like that term personally. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I think it ends up kind of sugarcoating what

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually talking about here, which is trustworthiness and accuracy

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<v Speaker 1>and hallucination. I don't know, it seems a little too

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's letting GPT off the hook a

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<v Speaker 1>little too much. That's my own personal opinion. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of similar to how I feel about Tesla and naming

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<v Speaker 1>its driver assist feature full self driving. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that is an accurate representation of what it actually does

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing, right, Like names and words mean things,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you have to ask why are these words

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<v Speaker 1>being used to describe this? Is it in an attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of take some pressure off. And that's just

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<v Speaker 1>my own personal take on this. I could be way

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<v Speaker 1>way off base. Anyway, it's still pretty cool. But obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if GPT produces information that is misleading or inaccurate, but

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<v Speaker 1>the presentation is put across in such a way as

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<v Speaker 1>to seem authentic, that's a real problem. And it could

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<v Speaker 1>also still be used to do stuff like promote ideologies

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<v Speaker 1>and create propaganda in ways that are perhaps not entirely ethical.

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<v Speaker 1>So while the new features are really impressive, the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that we face with these kinds of AI models haven't

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<v Speaker 1>magically been dismissed. They still very much exist. However, one

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<v Speaker 1>issue that apparently we do not need to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>is GPT for's ability to destroy us all. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being a bit glib here, but Open Ai actually did

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<v Speaker 1>allow an AI research group called the Alignment Research Center

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<v Speaker 1>or ARC, to test the Large Language Model to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it doesn't show signs of being capable of starting

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<v Speaker 1>the robot uprising and learning all of us into batteries

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<v Speaker 1>or something Specifically, the AI group was looking into possibilities

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<v Speaker 1>like the model's capacity to copy itself or to acquire resources,

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<v Speaker 1>whether digital or real world or whatever, or maybe its

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<v Speaker 1>ability to manipulate people with stuff like phishing attacks and

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Also whether or not it can

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<v Speaker 1>make high level plans and then maybe follow through on

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<v Speaker 1>those plans. So this kind of gets into some of

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<v Speaker 1>the scary stuff around AI that we typically think of

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<v Speaker 1>as being science fiction, right, like Terminator style stuff. The

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<v Speaker 1>thought of a sufficiently intelligent AI could be capable of

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<v Speaker 1>escaping whatever constraints we try to put on it, because

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<v Speaker 1>by definition, if it's super intelligent, then it's smarter than

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<v Speaker 1>we are, right, So if it's smarter than we are,

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<v Speaker 1>then there it stands to reason it would figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get out of whatever box we try

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in, including the possibility of manipulating people

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<v Speaker 1>to essentially set it free. There have been thought experiments

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<v Speaker 1>that have shown this is entirely possible. The AI researchers

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<v Speaker 1>concluded that GPT four doesn't measure up to this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dangerous AI, But then, as Ours Technica reports, there

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<v Speaker 1>are scarce details on the nature of the tests that

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<v Speaker 1>the research group actually conducted, so it's hard to judge

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not their findings are trustworthy themselves. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to remind ourselves that whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>AI poses an existential threat to humanity, we can acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that AI contributes to real problems in the here and now. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually this comes as an unintended consequence, such as the

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<v Speaker 1>inclusion of bias within a system that leads to one

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<v Speaker 1>group of people being disproportionately affected by negative outcomes, facial

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<v Speaker 1>recognition technologies being a great example of that, but it

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<v Speaker 1>could also be included by design, right, someone could make

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<v Speaker 1>an AI applicant designed to create harm in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>The alignment part of Alignment Research Center refers to the

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<v Speaker 1>goal of making sure that AI is in alignment or

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<v Speaker 1>agreement with basic principles that are meant to benefit humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. Bias can come into that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of decision making process too, and you have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>tough questions of who decides that criteria, who is it

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<v Speaker 1>that's defining what is beneficial because believe me, there is

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<v Speaker 1>not a universal or objective truth to what that actually

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<v Speaker 1>even means. And even an effort to create an quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote aligned AI could result in one that benefits a

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<v Speaker 1>small group at the expense of everyone else. Earlier this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that the Chinese megacompany by Do was hard

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<v Speaker 1>at work on its own aipowered chatbot that it had

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<v Speaker 1>called ernie Bot. Well earlier Today, by Do showed off

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<v Speaker 1>ernie Bot, but did so with prerecorded videos in showing

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<v Speaker 1>off its capabilities. Obviously, prerecorded videos can be fudged a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, so that brought some concern. It also didn't

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<v Speaker 1>launch any sort of public access to the tool. It's

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<v Speaker 1>keeping access very much limited. And dissatisfaction followed, and Bydu's

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<v Speaker 1>stock shares dropped as much as ten percent initially, though

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<v Speaker 1>that leveled off a little bit later, so the company

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<v Speaker 1>only lost around three billion dollars in value. Yikes. Bydu

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be taking a more measured approach to deploying

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<v Speaker 1>its AI chatbot, which I actually argue is the responsible

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. We have seen numerous stories of how

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<v Speaker 1>GPT has caused problems with premature deployments, such as homophobic

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<v Speaker 1>jokes on the endless computer generated Seinfeld episode that's on Twitch.

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<v Speaker 1>All way to creating a concern among teachers that their

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<v Speaker 1>students could be using a chatbot to cheat on assignments,

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<v Speaker 1>and more so, a more deliberate rollout seems like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to me. But then I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>this perception that Baidu is trailing behind companies like Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>and Google, and there's this fear that it's not being competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think not being competitive in this case also means

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<v Speaker 1>you're sidestepping some potentially really troubling problems down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not an investor, So there you go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot more stories to cover, but before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that, let's take a quick break. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about TikTok. We've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>stories about that. Again. The government of the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>is following the latest trend of banning TikTok on government

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<v Speaker 1>owned devices, or at least it's considering that option. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time you hear this podcast, the matter may have

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<v Speaker 1>officially been decided, but as I was recording it, it

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<v Speaker 1>was still something that was being considered, but we were

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<v Speaker 1>expecting an announcement sometime today. The UK would follow in

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<v Speaker 1>the footsteps of the United States, Canada, the Netherlands, the

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<v Speaker 1>European Union in general, and several other countries if they

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<v Speaker 1>were to do this, and yes, the heart of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is the security concerns of data potentially filtering to

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok's Chinese owned parent company, Byte Dance, and by extension,

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<v Speaker 1>to the Chinese government. Yesterday, The Wall Street Journal reported

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States could send TikTok and byte Dance

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimatum, which is essentially, you must sever all ties

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<v Speaker 1>between TikTok and bitte Dance. By Dance would have to

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<v Speaker 1>spin off TikTok as an entirely independent company and not

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<v Speaker 1>be the parent company anymore, or TikTok risks being banned nationwide.

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<v Speaker 1>This echoes what former President Donald Trump tried to do

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. He tried to force TikTok to

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<v Speaker 1>divorce itself from its parent company and become a truly

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<v Speaker 1>US organization. During Trump's presidency, the push was for TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>to sell itself to some larger American company, but this

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<v Speaker 1>never came to fruition, partly because TikTok argued in court

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<v Speaker 1>that this directive from the president would violate a law

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<v Speaker 1>called the Burman amendments that prevent presidents from using economic

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<v Speaker 1>pressures to force international communications platforms from doing stuff. So essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>they were saying this is against the law, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing a similar push from the Biden administration. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly sure how that same law wouldn't apply in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, Like, I don't know that there's a new

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<v Speaker 1>argument to be made if it's coming straight from the president. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok reps argue that a massive one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar program meant to secure data in the US

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<v Speaker 1>and to allow third party security companies a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>monitor TikTok's operations to look for anything hinky going on.

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<v Speaker 1>They're saying that's more than enough to solve the worries

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<v Speaker 1>that TikTok is serving as a threat to national security.

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<v Speaker 1>And then further, reps for TikTok have said that if

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<v Speaker 1>by Dance did divest itself of TikTok, that wouldn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the transmission of data from TikTok to China. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not entirely sure how all this tracks, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been given a glimpse of all the details, so

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt I would even understand all of it if

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<v Speaker 1>I did, because this is wrapping into things like finance

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<v Speaker 1>and trade more than the technology itself. Anyway, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like we're heading to an impass and I'm not entirely

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<v Speaker 1>sure where it's going to go from there. But my

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<v Speaker 1>guess is we're not going to see the pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok going away anytime soon. Hey, y'all remember FTX, You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the company that used to be the second largest crypto

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<v Speaker 1>exchange in the world before word got out that the

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<v Speaker 1>team behind it was practicing some creative accounting that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to look at another point of

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<v Speaker 1>view and call it, you know, fraud. But more bad

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<v Speaker 1>news has emerged about the company and its high profile

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<v Speaker 1>co founder, Sam Bankman Freed aka SBF. So the new

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<v Speaker 1>folks in charge of FTX, who are mostly going through

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<v Speaker 1>the process of selling the company off for parts in

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<v Speaker 1>order to return as much value to investors and customers

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, have said that they have uncovered transfers that

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<v Speaker 1>collectively amounted to around two point two billion dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>that this money was sent to SBF through various means,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily through Alameda Research, the hedge fund company that was

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<v Speaker 1>you know Yen to ftx's yang. An additional billion seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be pulled from FTX to go to other key

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<v Speaker 1>members of FTX, and yeah, Alameda Research handled those transfers,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the new owners of T and that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been going on for a while. And I personally

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<v Speaker 1>consider the report shocking but not surprising. By that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not at all surprised that SPF was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pull as much cash out as he could before FTX

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<v Speaker 1>came crashing down. It is shocking exactly how much money

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<v Speaker 1>that was, right like to pull out two point two

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in various means as you're trying to salvage

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you can from a ship that's sinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible Anyway. SPF is currently out on bail awaiting his trial, which,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the current court schedule, will not begin until

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<v Speaker 1>October this year because justice is super swift. The Verge

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<v Speaker 1>has an article titled the Silicon Valley bank fallout is

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<v Speaker 1>just beginning. It's a great article. You should go read

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<v Speaker 1>it on the Verge and the articles mostly about how

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<v Speaker 1>tech companies are trying to figure out where to go

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<v Speaker 1>for word from here, what's the safest place to bank

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<v Speaker 1>now that SVB has gone under, because if you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>SVB was like a financial pillar for the tech industry.

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<v Speaker 1>So this piece lays out the challenges that tech companies

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<v Speaker 1>currently face, including how to mitigate risk while ensuring that

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<v Speaker 1>tasks like making payroll aren't interrupted. Like you might argue, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be really good to make sure you're depositing in

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<v Speaker 1>different banks so that way you're not having all of

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<v Speaker 1>your eggs in one basket, and if that basket goes

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<v Speaker 1>belly up, you're still all right because you've got eggs

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<v Speaker 1>and other baskets, right, Except that if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like pay out a large group of employees,

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<v Speaker 1>having that money dispersed makes it much more difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>do those kind of tasks. So that's the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>challenges that tech companies are looking at. The piece also

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<v Speaker 1>mentions that we're probably going to see a change in

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<v Speaker 1>how startups are funded and how they operate, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of me thinks that a reevaluation of startup culture is

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<v Speaker 1>long overdue. I have often worried that the tendency for

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<v Speaker 1>startups to launch without first creating a firm business plan,

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<v Speaker 1>instead essentially having a desire to get acquired by some

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<v Speaker 1>other company has really led to irresponsible behavior, and that

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<v Speaker 1>this has gone unchecked for too long. This created too

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<v Speaker 1>many companies that ultimately produced very little value. Right. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear about a company like Google or Meta or Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>scooping up some of these companies, and sometimes nothing really

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<v Speaker 1>seems to come of it, right, and you're just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what good did that startup due apart from make the

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<v Speaker 1>founders rich? And then you see the founders go off

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<v Speaker 1>and do the same thing again, where they'll start up

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<v Speaker 1>a new company, perhaps one that also has very little

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<v Speaker 1>business plan element to it, also with the hope that

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to get scooped up by another company,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do it again and again and again, because

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with an idea that sounds attractive is way

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<v Speaker 1>easier than making that idea work. And if you are

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<v Speaker 1>good at selling ideas, you can just do a serial

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<v Speaker 1>approach to create cool sounding idea, sell it off to

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, rents, and repeat and by an island somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that this represents a reality check moment where

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<v Speaker 1>we will see a more thoughtful and careful approach to

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<v Speaker 1>funding startups that might be a vain hope, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>historically investors have shown a really strong desire to get

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<v Speaker 1>in on the thing that's possibly going to take the

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<v Speaker 1>world by storm, so that you get so rich that

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<v Speaker 1>you make Scrooge mcdock look like a pauper. Anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>article in The Verge is a good one again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Silicon Valley Bank fallout is just beginning. It

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<v Speaker 1>also takes time to point out that the collapse of

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<v Speaker 1>SVB was in large part the fault of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the venture capitalist investors themselves. Like you had the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of big investment fund groups saying, hey, you should probably

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<v Speaker 1>pull your money out of SVB because if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else is going to do it, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>won't be able to get your money, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up creating the very crisis that they were warning

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<v Speaker 1>people about. So I think a lot of financial institutions

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<v Speaker 1>may still view loans to the tech sector as being

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<v Speaker 1>risky because the venture capital community have proven themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>be self destructive. It's hard to trust in an industry

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<v Speaker 1>when you see the tendency to act in self interest

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you harm everybody else. Very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to put your trust into that group. Okay, still have

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<v Speaker 1>a few more stories to cover before I get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's another quick break, Okay. The Federal Trade Commission or FTC,

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<v Speaker 1>has finalized its judgment against Epic Games regarding the company's

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<v Speaker 1>practice of enticing or perhaps even fooling Fortnite players into

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<v Speaker 1>making in game purchases through what the FTC calls dark patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially, dark patterns refers to creating an interface that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it really easy, far too easy, most would argue,

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<v Speaker 1>for a player to make an in game purchase, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>without even knowing or understanding that it is a financial transaction.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the ways the FTC argued Epic Games did

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<v Speaker 1>this was that it ended up playing fast and loose

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<v Speaker 1>with button inputs, so that you might have a button

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<v Speaker 1>that normally has you back out of a menu option, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you've had your menu UI set up so that

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<v Speaker 1>when you hit B, you're backing out of that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the menu and you go to a larger part.

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<v Speaker 1>But then in a transaction, maybe you suddenly make B

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<v Speaker 1>confirm instead of backout, and so people who are used

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<v Speaker 1>to using bing and backout hit B, but now they've

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<v Speaker 1>just made a payment, and that might not be something

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<v Speaker 1>you could easily reverse or cancel out of, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's no confirmed feature. You just boom, you've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>Another part of the problem is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the folks who are playing Fortnite are kids, So the

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<v Speaker 1>FTC argued that Epic Games didn't include enough protections to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent kids from making in game purchases without parental consent,

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<v Speaker 1>so they just started racking up enormous charges on parents

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards that were associated with the account, and if

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<v Speaker 1>a player did go so far as to contact their

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<v Speaker 1>credit card company to dispute charges, Epic Games would then

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<v Speaker 1>lock that person's player account so they couldn't play the

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<v Speaker 1>game anymore. So now the FTC is telling Epic Games

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<v Speaker 1>to cough up two hundred forty five million dollars as punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>The FTC plans to use that money to provide refunds

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<v Speaker 1>to affected players. Plus, Epic will not be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>block people who dispute credit card charges anymore per the

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<v Speaker 1>terms of this agreement. If you think you were affected

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<v Speaker 1>by Epic Games practices. In other words, if you feel

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<v Speaker 1>you were tricked into making a purchase on Fortnite and

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<v Speaker 1>you are a US citizen, you can go to the

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<v Speaker 1>website FTC dot gov slash fortnite that's foart n Ie,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can fill in a little online form to

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<v Speaker 1>start the refund process. South Korea and Samsung announced plans

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<v Speaker 1>to build a truly enormous semiconductor manufacturing campus this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one that Samsung is going to invest two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thirty billion dollars in two The effort will make South

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<v Speaker 1>Korea much more competitive with Taiwan's TSMC as a semiconductor

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing company that's responsible for more than half of all

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<v Speaker 1>the semiconductors used in advanced electronics today. It's also a

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<v Speaker 1>move to create a better supply in a world that

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<v Speaker 1>not so long ago was in a serious crunch due

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<v Speaker 1>to many factors, in the big one being the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen pandemic. Samsung was one of several companies hit hard

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<v Speaker 1>by supply chain issues, and by investing in semiconductor manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>facilities within South Korea, there are hopes to head off

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<v Speaker 1>future problems like what we saw on the recent past.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not that different from what we're seeing here

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. The US government has poured billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars or at least earmarked billions of dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>similar investments here in the US again to try and

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<v Speaker 1>alleviate some of these bottleneck points for supply chain issues

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. Over in Japan, the US startup Lift

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<v Speaker 1>Aircraft Incorporated held its first test flight of the Hexa

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<v Speaker 1>flying car vehicle with an actual human being piloting it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was the first time it had a piloted

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<v Speaker 1>test flight. So it looks like like an oversized quad

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<v Speaker 1>copter that has a cockpit in it that can hold

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<v Speaker 1>a single rider. Now, the plan is to have flying

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles give rides to passengers in time for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five Osaka Kansai Expo. And from what I read,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a single seater vehicle, so I'm guessing that

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<v Speaker 1>for passenger rides it must be either controlled remotely or

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<v Speaker 1>possibly autonomous. I think remote control is far more realistic,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no way you would just hand over control

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<v Speaker 1>of a flying car to some rando and then just

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<v Speaker 1>say good luck out there. Anyway, this particular vehicle isn't

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<v Speaker 1>meant for the long haul because according to Asahi dot Com,

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<v Speaker 1>it can fly for about fifteen minutes, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even get twenty minutes of travel out of this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's meant for very short distance as it travels

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<v Speaker 1>at speeds top speeds at around one hundred kilometers per

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<v Speaker 1>hour that's about sixty two miles per hour. Japan's Transport

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<v Speaker 1>Ministry is now hashing out the regulations that lift aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>and other vendors that are also planning similar services for

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<v Speaker 1>this particular exhibit. These are going to be the rules

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll have to follow, which is good because this

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<v Speaker 1>is really one area where I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>regulation trail too far behind the technological innovation. People's lives

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<v Speaker 1>are involved here right, their lives and their safety and

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<v Speaker 1>their health. I think that it's very good that there

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<v Speaker 1>is serious work being done in the regulation side. Richard

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<v Speaker 1>branson satellite launch company Virgin Orbit, has effectively closed up shop,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for now. According to BBC News, Virgin Orbit

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<v Speaker 1>has stopped all operations and put staff on furlough. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in the wake of a failed launch attempt that

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<v Speaker 1>happened off the coast of Ireland earlier this year. And

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<v Speaker 1>by a launch attempt, I mean an actual attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>launch a payload into orbit. I believe it was nine

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<v Speaker 1>satellites in total that were part of this payload. So

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<v Speaker 1>in early January, Virgin Orbit attempted to launch a launcher

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<v Speaker 1>one rocket which rides on an aircraft, especially fit seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven, and the seven forty seven reaches a certain altitude,

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<v Speaker 1>then it deploys the launch vehicle, which ignites its engines,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it goes from there. But something somewhere went wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time, Virgin Orbit said the first stage

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<v Speaker 1>rocket fired exactly as it was supposed to, it shut

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<v Speaker 1>down exactly as it was supposed to, and the second

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<v Speaker 1>stage ignited just like it was meant to. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that initially Virgin Orbit said that the payload had even

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<v Speaker 1>achieved orbit, but by the time you got to about

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<v Speaker 1>half an hour after launch, they changed their tune. They

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<v Speaker 1>said the payload failed to reach orbit, and there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much information about why. Later on we heard that apparently

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<v Speaker 1>an engine had overheated due to a filter becoming dislodged,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was possibly the reason for the failure to

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<v Speaker 1>reach orbit. Now, it's not unusual for young rocket companies

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<v Speaker 1>to have problems like this, and we indicate that something

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that difficult by saying, well, it's not rocket science.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason we do that is because rocket science

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<v Speaker 1>is bloody difficult, so it should not come as a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise that there will be failures. But whether you think

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<v Speaker 1>of rocket science as being difficult or not, investors want

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<v Speaker 1>results when you're talking about companies, and if you fail

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<v Speaker 1>to provide good results, then the investors are more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to bail on you, and that seems to be what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Virgin Orbit needed a real win back in January, and

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<v Speaker 1>the launch failure hit the company really hard. Ours Tetnica

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<v Speaker 1>predicted back in January that Virgin Orbit would face a

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<v Speaker 1>potential existential crisis as a result of it, and now

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<v Speaker 1>that crisis seems to have hit. And again this did

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<v Speaker 1>not come as a surprise because it wasn't just Ours

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<v Speaker 1>Tetnica predicting that Virgin Orbit was going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>real trouble as a result of this failure. Multiple analysts

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<v Speaker 1>had projected that at the rate that the company was

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<v Speaker 1>burning through money, it would be out of business this month.

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<v Speaker 1>And while we can't say that Virgin Orbit is really

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<v Speaker 1>most sincerely dead, it certainly has a rough road ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of it and if it wants to return to solvency, Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA and a company called Axiom showed off the stylish

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<v Speaker 1>new moon suits yesterday. I've done full episodes about the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of the space suit, including discussions about the differences

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<v Speaker 1>between astronaut and cosmonaut suits. While space suits have evolved

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<v Speaker 1>over time, for the most part, changes have been small iterations.

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<v Speaker 1>But these new suits have a lot of improvements and

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<v Speaker 1>more significant changes than earlier models. For one thing, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot more joints in them, as in joints

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<v Speaker 1>that allow for movement, not you know, for twenty just blaze,

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<v Speaker 1>and these allow for greater freedom of movement when you're

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<v Speaker 1>galumping across the surface of the Moon, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>do things like crouch and squat, you know, important stuff

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>when you're playing a first person shooter. Also important stuff

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing things like doing science on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, astronauts are going to have a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>freedom of movement while they're wearing these suits. Another big

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<v Speaker 1>change is that previous suits required you to get into

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<v Speaker 1>a lower half first, so it's like you're putting on

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of space pants. Then you had the upper

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<v Speaker 1>half attached to you, and they would attach to the

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<v Speaker 1>lower half and create a seal. But yeah, the suits

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<v Speaker 1>were in two pieces, right, a lower in an upper half.

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<v Speaker 1>These new suits don't do that. Instead, they have an

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<v Speaker 1>entrance through the back, so you open up the back,

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<v Speaker 1>you get in, you get zipped up, essentially like you're

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<v Speaker 1>secured by your team, and then you're wearing your own

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>little space onesie that way. It's not little. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I said little. These are big suits. They

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<v Speaker 1>also come equipped with some cool stuff like HD cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can get that awesome high definition point of

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<v Speaker 1>view shot while someone's walking across the Moon. They have

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<v Speaker 1>also improved thermal insulation so that astronauts are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to wander the Chili regions of the South Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the area that NASA has identified as the potential

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<v Speaker 1>site for a long term space colony type thing or

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<v Speaker 1>a moon base, and it's important to have that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of insulation if you don't want to freeze your tootsies off.

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<v Speaker 1>They are officially called the Axia Extra Vehicular Mobility Unit

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<v Speaker 1>or AXIMU for short. The versions NASA showed off had

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<v Speaker 1>this dark gray cover on them, but when used by

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts, they will be white space suits and Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA will not own these suits. They're not purchasing the suits. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like a lunar tuck's rental. NASA will

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<v Speaker 1>go to Axiom and rent space suits for missions starting

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<v Speaker 1>with the planned lunar landing that right now aims to

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<v Speaker 1>return people to the Moon's surface by twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Side note, I remain a little pessimistic about that timeline.

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<v Speaker 1>I think twenty twenty five is probably a doubt we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to make that, but I hope I'm wrong. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be great If I am, I will not be

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<v Speaker 1>upset at all if we do manage to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon by twenty twenty five. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very exciting prospect. I think it's a very inspiring thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets people, especially kids, really excited about space and

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<v Speaker 1>science and engineering, and that's always wonderful. Not to mention,

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>we stand a chance to learn more, which is always cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And to this day this is true. I find when

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<v Speaker 1>I look up at the Moon, inevitably I just sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and marvel at the fact that we put people

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<v Speaker 1>up there. We put humans on the surface of the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>They walked around on the Moon, they played golf, on

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. Then we were able to get those same

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<v Speaker 1>people back home to Earth safely. And then Noel Brown

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>goes and says, yeah, but Stanley Kubrick shot the whole

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>thing on a sound stage and I lose my ever

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>love in mind. Y'all. This sounds like a joke, but

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it happened repeatedly this past weekend. When I was in Austin,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Texas for South By Southwest, I would tell this story

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>about finding the moon really inspirational and they'd say, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just talking to Noel about conspiracy theories, and

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<v Speaker 1>it took everything in my body not to lay into Knoll.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I went Null's the sweetest person in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, I was going bonkers by the end. All right,

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.840
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