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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Friday edition of The Clay Travis end

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. To Friday. That's already looking forward to

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Speaker 1: Monday for a lot of us excited not just for

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Speaker 1: the weekend, but for the next week to begin, because

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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump will be sworn in on Monday once

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Speaker 1: again as president. Forty seven president of these United States.

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Speaker 1: Is very exciting. It has been a long and bleak

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Speaker 1: four years of the Biden regime and we are looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this change. I know so many of you

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Speaker 1: are incredibly excited about it. So this is a weekend

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Speaker 1: of tremendous anticipation. We've got some news breaking today. A

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Speaker 1: few things will be getting to Biden deciding that he

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Speaker 1: can just ratify the Equal Rights Amendment because he says so,

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Speaker 1: or something, we'll talk about it. You've got Christy Gnoam

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, governor South Dakotas soon to be the

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Speaker 1: head of the Department of Homeland Security, a very very

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Speaker 1: important post because of the immigration and immigration enforcement provisions

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Speaker 1: and powers under it. The Supreme Court just upheld that

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Speaker 1: federal law that would make TikTok go dark starting on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump is going to save it at the

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Speaker 1: last minute. I just don't believe they're going to let

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Speaker 1: this thing go the way that it currently stands. We'll

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Speaker 1: dive into all of that, but I will say Clay

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Speaker 1: and I are having to go deep into our closets

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Speaker 1: because it is going to be about as cold as

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Speaker 1: it gets in Washington, d C. For this inauguration. We

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Speaker 1: are going. Clay wanted a party, so we're going to party,

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to find like I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 1: dress like I live in the polar Arctic North. And

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Speaker 1: they're now saying, Clay, give us the latest update. They're

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Speaker 1: actually changing up the inauguration. They say because of the cold.

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Speaker 2: This was posted by Trump five minutes ago. January twentieth

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Speaker 2: can't come fast enough. I mean, this is typical Trump. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: even those initially opposed to President Donald J. Trump and

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration, just wanted to happen. He says, it's

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Speaker 2: his obligation to protect the people of our country. But

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Speaker 2: before we even begin, we have to think of the

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Speaker 2: inauguration itself. The weather forecast for Washington, d C, with

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Speaker 2: the wind chill factor, could take temperatures into severe record lows.

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Speaker 2: There's an Arctic blast sweeping the country. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to see people hurt or injured in any way dangerous

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Speaker 2: conditions for the tens of thousands of law enforcement first responders,

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Speaker 2: that will be outside for many hours on the twentieth.

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Speaker 2: In any event, if you decide to come, please dress formally. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: this is all from Trump. Therefore, I have ordered the

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Speaker 2: inauguration address, in addition to prayers and other speeches, to

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Speaker 2: be delivered in the United States Capital Rotunda, as was

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Speaker 2: used by Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty five. Also, because

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Speaker 2: of very cold weather, the various dignitaries and guest will

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Speaker 2: be brought into the Capital. This will be a very

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Speaker 2: beautiful experience for all, and especially for the large TV audience. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you can imagine the mad scramble that this has put on,

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Speaker 2: because they have already built the rostrum, the location for

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Speaker 2: where the inauguration typically takes place, hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 2: seats and whatnot being laid out, and now everybody is

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Speaker 2: Maybe somebody out there knows in our audience how many

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Speaker 2: people you could even fit in the Capitol rotunda. I

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Speaker 2: know it's a big open air area.

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Speaker 1: Not as many as you can fit on the mall

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Speaker 2: So I would think just a few thousand buck and

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Speaker 2: you know you want every congressman, every congressman's wife or

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Speaker 2: husband is gonna come, the cabinet, the all of the

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Speaker 1: But the truth is, I, for example, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the sporting events I've been to, which is far fewer

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Speaker 1: than clay, it's more fun to watch it on TV

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Speaker 1: than it is to be there in person, unless you

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, being able to enjoy this

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Speaker 1: virtually is really the best option anyway. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: So this is the Floridians like you. I mean, Trump

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Speaker 2: of itself, and he's got a lot of Floridians in

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Speaker 1: If I put like six pastel sweaters on top of

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Speaker 1: the you know, the feeling that I see Clay just

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Speaker 1: on social media from talking to people from I think

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Speaker 1: the American people. The whole thing, though, the whole all

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Speaker 1: four years has just been he is a bonehead, He

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Speaker 1: like a Shawshank moment when he finally gets out into

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Speaker 2: They are going to do a presidential parade that will,

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Speaker 2: I guess end at Capital One Arena, which is where

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Speaker 2: the Washington basketball team plays, where the Washington Capitals play,

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Speaker 2: and he says he will join the crowd at Capital

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Speaker 2: One Arena after his swearing in. All other events will

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Speaker 2: remain the same. So they're going to open up Capital

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Speaker 2: One Arena on Monday. Now, Buck, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: I've been there for sporting events several times in the past,

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Speaker 2: but I would imagine that people are going to start

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Speaker 1: I'm also gonna tell you Antifa doesn't like the cold.

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Speaker 2: The cold, maybe downtown, the hill slit skiers, maybe a

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, the whatever whatever, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: not when it's this cold outside. You know, it's just

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Speaker 1: you know, they're there, their little their little fingers get

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Speaker 2: Let me also point this out, and I know that

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Speaker 2: we're moving things inside? About whether there might have been

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Speaker 1: I think there's always for well, for President Trump going

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Speaker 1: By the way, Capitol One Arena, our team just pulled

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Speaker 2: But I'm wondering if they're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: I was saying maybe they can get it up close

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we're standing room on the ground floor.

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Speaker 2: I you know, that's a big area where they typically

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Speaker 1: Well, says capacity. So I would assume that includes like

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Speaker 1: We've all been waiting for it, and and really we'll

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about this today on the show. This

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Speaker 1: going to be quite quite chilly, But this is an

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out this weekend has saved TikTok for

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Speaker 1: look up how to build a fire, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could look up how to start a

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Speaker 2: You are going to be free We're both flying up

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Speaker 2: the show today. But I'm already laughing a little bit

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Speaker 2: about how cold buck is going to be in DC. Cohen,

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Speaker 2: what's temperature today?

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Speaker 1: At Miami? It's like seventy two. It's like seventy two degrees, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I you lived in DC. I went to college there.

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Speaker 2: It's underrated how cold DC gets in the winter.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's a wet it's a wet

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Speaker 1: cold too. It's a wet, bureaucratic, unfriendly cold. It's not good, windy,

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Speaker 1: way windier than I ever anticipated. I've been a lot

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Speaker 2: But it is funny that Trump moves to mar A

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Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, you know this this cold weather stuff.

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Speaker 1: Buck Well? I had to learn about this, fellow, mister

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Speaker 1: The final show.

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Speaker 2: Here are the states where those senators are from. Nevada, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire, and now I'm gonna run into a name

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think New Hampshire, Georgia, New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: and Michigan, Michigan and Virginia. What of all this represent?

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Speaker 2: These are places that Trump either one or nearly one.

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Speaker 2: Kelly sorry is from Arizona as well. I forgot his

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Speaker 2: name for a second there, astronaut Mark Kelly. So you've

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Speaker 2: got all these different states. Remember Trump one Nevada double

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Speaker 2: Democrat senators, Trump one, Arizona double Democrat senators, Trump one,

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Speaker 2: Michigan double Democrat senators, Trump one, Wisconsin one Democrat senator,

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Speaker 2: Trump one, Pennsylvania flip day senate. See Fetterman has left there.

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Speaker 2: I just think this is super interesting that Democrats are

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Speaker 2: now not lining up in full resistance against Trump. A

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Speaker 2: lot of them are saying, hey, you know what, we

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Speaker 2: need to be involved in many of his priorities in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, which is a testament to how much

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Speaker 2: the ground underneath all of this has actually taken place

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Speaker 2: and how substantial all all of this is. By the way,

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Speaker 2: also we'll mention this because we teased it five million

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Speaker 2: dollars in compensatory damages against CNN. You texted me about this.

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Speaker 2: In that verdict for defamation, it now is on to

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Speaker 2: punitive damages. Some states restrict how much more punitive damages

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Speaker 2: can be given on top of a verdict. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure what Florida trial law is in that respect.

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Speaker 1: Some states do not. So we will see what is

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Speaker 1: permissible under the law and also what happens. But CNN

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Speaker 1: is according to a Florida jury fake news, they committed deathmation.

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Speaker 1: They are now liable for five million dollars and we'll

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Speaker 1: see what sort of punited damages can be put on

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Speaker 1: top of that before all is said and done. I

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Speaker 1: think that that's a more It's funny, that's a more

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Speaker 1: reasonable settlement than some of the things we've seen. But

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Speaker 1: it's not reasonable in so far as other networks have

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Speaker 1: been hit with much more for much less. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's this is yeah, if somebody goes

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Speaker 1: on TV and says something that's a lie about you

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Speaker 1: get a check for five million dollars from them. Seems

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Speaker 1: pretty close to what But look at what happened Rudy

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Speaker 1: jew What was the Rudy Giuliani verdict?

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Speaker 2: Oh don't I think he settled it now. But he

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Speaker 2: would have been This is important what you're pointing out

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Speaker 2: for the Georgia election poll workers lawsuit. He would have

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Speaker 2: been better off legally from a damages perspective, having committed

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Speaker 1: He was to have said mean things about them allegedly

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Speaker 1: in the public. In other words, wrongful death buck is

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Speaker 1: typically a formula that's pegged, where if you run over

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Speaker 1: wrongful death that someone can gain is a function of

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Speaker 1: and also what their income is. In other words, you

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Speaker 1: what the damage's scope could look like. These individuals in

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Speaker 1: And also I think that the venue shopping that has

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Speaker 1: have to have malice for there to be I know,

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Speaker 1: it depends on news organization. There's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: little tests and rules with these things. But in the

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Speaker 1: and generally speaking, that's going to be something unless they

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Speaker 1: because it's election stuff, and that becomes very political obviously, right,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, five million dollars against CNN is a dropping

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Speaker 1: the bucket. I mean they pay some of their you know,

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Speaker 1: third tier anchors that unfortunately, but they well maybe second

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Speaker 1: Clay that they can't just get away with absolutely whatever

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Speaker 1: they want to do. We'll take some calls coming up here,

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Speaker 1: out and the team was pulling very quickly. The pardon issue.

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Speaker 1: Can somebody basically say I don't want your pardon? The

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Speaker 1: Biden offers you an eleventh hour pardon here, Oh she's

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Speaker 1: taken preemptive. You think she's definitely taking it right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could be wrong, clearly, but based on

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Speaker 2: really trying to put people that he beat in prison

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Speaker 2: or charge them with crimes is actually low. Now, maybe

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Speaker 2: saying these people haven't committed crimes. That's that's where I'm

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Speaker 2: let's be clear. But even with Hillary, Trump was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, actually I don't think it makes that much

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Speaker 2: to most people like I kind of feel sorry for

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Speaker 2: Liz Cheney because she's been wrong on everything and her

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Speaker 2: political career is over and her dad is the worst

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Speaker 2: vice president ever and she can go get hired by

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Speaker 2: some lobbying firm and make money. But the idea that

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Speaker 2: she's ever going to be in any kind of leadership position,

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Speaker 2: to me is is crazy. And she got smoked in Wyoming,

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Speaker 2: So where is she going to go?

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Speaker 1: And people are going to like her?

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Speaker 2: You know, they actually did the data which you and

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Speaker 2: voting for Kamala. That Lincoln Project universe, there's like twenty

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Speaker 2: make like two hundred million dollars off of it, So

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Speaker 2: I guess credit to them. But this idea that there's

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Speaker 2: a huge anti Trump contingent pro Dick Cheney and Liz

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Speaker 2: Democrats that like Republicans who rip other Republicans? Sure, but

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Speaker 2: the idea that there was somehow going.

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Speaker 1: To swing vote change the outcome of the election, it

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Speaker 1: think it actually turned people against her. Yes, And it

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Speaker 1: also was the case that all of the celebrity endorsements

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Speaker 1: A billion five in spending didn't matter at all. You're

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Speaker 1: also seeing I might note that Joe that Biden and

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Speaker 1: So this just goes along with Democrats have more billionaires

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Speaker 1: And yet they still play this game of you know,

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Speaker 2: It's one thing for them to play the game. It's

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Speaker 2: incredibly forward thinking perspective. Biden provided. Everything he said was

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Speaker 2: a lie. And in the wake of giving George Soros

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Speaker 2: they were way more billionaires supporting Kamala Harris than supporting

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. So to claim that Republicans are somehow the

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Speaker 2: the same kind of inaccuracy. Lies would be another word.

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Speaker 2: When Biden says, hey, the Red States are doing really bad. Actually,

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Speaker 1: not even close. Yeah, well, truth is not really Biden's

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Speaker 1: of his four years. His age factors in here, I

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Speaker 1: however long that might be. Presidents have different post presidencies.

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Speaker 1: relatively young man. Bill Clinton certainly has been very active.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama's somewhat active. I would say George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: him at the Jimmy Carter funeral, I was kind of

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Speaker 1: cognizant of the fact that we rarely see him anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just kind of vanished. I think Biden

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Speaker 2: will vanish. I think he'll go up into into Delaware

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Speaker 2: and I think we'll barely hear anything from him. I

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Speaker 2: think Democrats want him to vanish, much like they did

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter. I don't think they want to try to

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Speaker 2: burnish his credentials. Nobody's gonna seek his endorsement in a

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Speaker 2: significant fashion, to the extent he's capable of giving one.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty eight, Carter didn't vanish, though, Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 2: you know, no, that's my point.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Yer is the opposite.

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Speaker 2: Like I think Jimmy Carter was trying to redeem what

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Speaker 2: was a failed presidency, I think. But I think probably

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Speaker 2: of the last twenty five years or so, George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush has been the least public of a former president.

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Speaker 2: I think that Biden will be even less public than

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Speaker 2: George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush. I think he's going to vanish. Yes, well, he's

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Speaker 1: also eighty three years old, eighty eight years old, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just he was going to be a lifestans

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Speaker 1: if he had been re elected.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, which is it looks even crazier with every

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Speaker 2: day of his administration coming to a close that they

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Speaker 2: ever attempted to say we're going to have an eighty

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Speaker 1: Isn't it when you think about it, that they that

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Speaker 1: they tried to drag the country into that. And these

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Speaker 1: are the same people who lectured us for years about

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Speaker 1: how irresponsible it was to make Trump the president. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's the part is you go, wait a second, it's

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Speaker 1: the same people that say that Trump shouldn't be president

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Speaker 1: and we know, thankfully they didn't get their way. Are

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Speaker 1: the ones who have been part of this game that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was just fine. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: the biggest single scandal in a sense of the entire

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Speaker 1: Biden term. And it's also what has just completely newtered

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Speaker 1: the anti Trump opposition. Everybody that has been an anti

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Speaker 1: Trumper went along with until they couldn't anymore. The Biden

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Speaker 1: is just fine. So they're all liars. They're all clearly liars.

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Speaker 2: And just remember they spent four years saying the twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth Amendment should be put in place because of Trump.

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Speaker 2: Almost none of them ever said anything about the twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth Amendment in Biden. To your point, they spent four years,

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Speaker 2: and Trump, whenever you think about him, tells you exactly

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Speaker 2: what he thinks, manages as he thinks is the most

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Speaker 2: successful version of the president. Biden should have been twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth Amendment. Like, there's no way that he should have

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Speaker 2: been allowed to stay in power as long as he was.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's the single most reckless enabling act that

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Speaker 2: has ever occurred for the presidency in any of our lives.

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Speaker 1: Nobody was alive.

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Speaker 2: I don't think listening to us right now when Woodrow

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Speaker 2: Wilson had a stroke and his wife Edith basically ran

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Speaker 2: the White House, which is what they say now, I

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Speaker 2: can't believe that we ever ended up in a situation

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Speaker 2: where so many people who are supposed to be focusing

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Speaker 2: on disinformation and misinformation and cheap fakes. They let all

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Speaker 2: of this happen, and thank the Lord, come Monday, that

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Speaker 2: entire era is over and it's time to start making

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Speaker 2: America great again. And I can't wait to see it

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Speaker 2: in person in DC. In fact, Buck, I am about

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Speaker 2: will meet up with you later this evening in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. You're going to close up the rest of

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Speaker 2: the show. We can't wait to be back with you

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Speaker 2: on Monday morning at noon Eastern, when Donald Trump will

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Speaker 2: officially be the President of the United States. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are

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Speaker 2: joined by Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky. Appreciate him taking

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Speaker 2: the time to join us here in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the Senate confirmation process, and let's go ahead and start here, Senator,

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Speaker 2: right off the top, based on everything you're seeing, do

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Speaker 2: you expect everyone that Trump has put forward to be confirmed?

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Speaker 2: Is there any nervousness you have about any of these

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Speaker 2: nominees based on what you're hearing on Capitol Hill at

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 3: You know, the hearing we did today was Governor Christy

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Speaker 3: nome I thought the Democrats were fairly reasonable and they're questioning.

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Speaker 3: I think she's gonna get bipartisan support. That's one you

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Speaker 3: know that has been my Committee Ross vote we did

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Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, and that's for omb office management.

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Speaker 3: He got more partisan response from the Democrats. I think

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Speaker 3: he'll pass, but with Republican votes only unless he gets

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Speaker 3: one or two on the floor. So most of them

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Speaker 3: are going to go that way. A few of them

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Speaker 3: the Democrats will vote for, some of them will pass

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Speaker 3: with Republicans only. And then there's a couple of questions

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Speaker 3: on ones that who I think are real reformers, whether

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Speaker 3: or not some of the neo cons and the Republican

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Speaker 3: Party will will vote against them. These would be people

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Speaker 3: like Tulsea Gabbard, people like Cash Battel. You've got some

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Speaker 3: people who are institutionalists up here who believe that the

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Speaker 3: institution of big government is more important than principles, and

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Speaker 3: they don't want to be a disruptor in any of

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Speaker 3: those spots. But I'm thoroughly convinced people like Cash Battel,

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Speaker 3: Telsea Gabbard are necessary because politics has polluted our intelligence

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Speaker 3: agencies and politics and polluted our domestic agencies like the FBI.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be gotten rid.

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Speaker 1: Of Senator Paul Where do you find Where do you

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Speaker 1: expect that RFK Junior is going to fall on this

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Speaker 1: spectrum in terms of opposition bipartisan support, just based on

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Speaker 1: what you already know of him. I know we still

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Speaker 1: have to hear from him on Capitol Hill, but there

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Speaker 1: are some who seem to think that are suggesting at

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Speaker 1: least that he may be a tougher pass for some

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Speaker 1: members of the Senate.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm an enthusiastic supporter of his I'm also

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Speaker 3: an enthusiastic believer that vaccines were one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: medical miracles ever in all of modern medicine, really beginning

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Speaker 3: with the inoculation for smallpox back in the seventeen hundreds,

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Speaker 3: culminating really with polio vaccine and moving forward. That said,

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Speaker 3: I'm for voluntarism. I'm for parents making a choice, and

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Speaker 3: if something's good for you, sell me on it. I'll

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Speaker 3: give you an example, the smallpox vaccine. The initial one

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Speaker 3: was an inoculation with the smallpox. They took it from

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Speaker 3: somebody who had a few pocks and not much of

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Speaker 3: a disease. They unroofed a scab, took us and stuck

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Speaker 3: it in somebody else's arm. But in those days, the

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Speaker 3: death rate from smallpox is one in three. The death

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Speaker 3: rates from the vaccine was not insignificant. It was one

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Speaker 3: without a mandate death rate one in fifty for the

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Speaker 3: inoculation death rate one and three for smallpox. So people

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Speaker 3: are not stupid people. This is where the elitists get

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Speaker 3: it wrong. They think we're all too stupid to make

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Speaker 3: a rational decision because parents won't give their kid a

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Speaker 3: COVID vaccine. Well, parents have seen that COVID is a

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Speaker 3: non deadly disease for kids, and there is a small

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Speaker 3: but measurable risk of a heart inflammation with it. I

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Speaker 3: think RFK is going to be honest about vaccines. I

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Speaker 3: think he's going to present honest studies and let people

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Speaker 3: make judgments, and really, you can have less vaccine hesitancy

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Speaker 3: if we have more testing, actually, and we show most

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Speaker 3: of the vaccines are probably pretty benign. But the thing

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Speaker 3: is is show us the testing. Let's go head to

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Speaker 3: head and tell us the truth. I still think probably

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Speaker 3: a COVID vaccine, if you're over seventy five or if

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Speaker 3: you're morbidly obese, you might want to take it, even

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Speaker 3: though COVID is not as dangerous as it was in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. But for kids, I don't think there's any

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody in taking it because they're not

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Speaker 3: honest with us. Everybody's like, oh damn, I'm not believing

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Speaker 3: that anything the government tells me anymore because they're dishonest

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Speaker 3: about childhood vaccines for COVID. So I think rfk's going

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Speaker 3: to bring a healthy dose of honesty. I think he's

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Speaker 3: got a good chance of passing, but it could be close.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul about the confirmation process

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Speaker 2: and more. I want to ask you a hypothetical and

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Speaker 2: then I want to ask you in your world what

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Speaker 2: you think should happen. TikTok is set to officially theoretically

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Speaker 2: not be allowed to be shared on the app Store

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Speaker 2: on January nineteenth, that is Sunday, the day before the inauguration.

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Speaker 2: Yet based on everything we've heard from the Biden team,

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Speaker 2: they say they're not going to enforce it. They're going

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Speaker 2: to pass the buck to Trump. TikTok CEO scheduled to

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Speaker 2: be at the inauguration. Couple of part question here for you,

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Speaker 2: can you remember a bill that Congress passed and the

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Speaker 2: President signed that both parties now seem like they're kind

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Speaker 2: of saying, actually, we don't really want this bill to

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Speaker 2: go into effect. It seems more like a threat than

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Speaker 2: it was an actual implementation of a legislative and executive

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Speaker 2: authority action. And second, in your mind, what should happen

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Speaker 2: if you were given charge to try to get a

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Speaker 2: solution here?

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Speaker 1: What should happen with TikTok?

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Speaker 3: So it's extraordinary for a build of pass overwhelmingly. You know,

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Speaker 3: I voted against it because I'm for speech, but this

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Speaker 3: bill has passed overwhelmingly to ban it, And how everybody's

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Speaker 3: like wow, I came to the 're going to do it,

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Speaker 3: maybe we shouldn't do it. And I think there is

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Speaker 3: a possibility that under the law he'll be able to

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Speaker 3: grant at least a ninety day extension. Now what would

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Speaker 3: I do under it? I believe in free speech. If

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Speaker 3: you don't like Clay and Buck, turn them off. If

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Speaker 3: you really like them, record them and listen to them

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Speaker 3: over and over again all day long. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: freedom of choice. But let's say, well, it's complicated. They're

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Speaker 3: owned by a foreign entity. Even that's not really true.

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Speaker 3: About sixty percent of TikTok's ownerships international investors. Their CEO

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Speaker 3: is from Singapore, not from China. The two inventors were Chinese,

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Speaker 3: but seven thousand American employees are part of this. So

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Speaker 3: to me, it's an illegal taking. You're taking somebody's business

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Speaker 3: without ever trying them a court. They say, oh, you're

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Speaker 3: sharing data with the Chinese Communist Party, Well prove it,

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Speaker 3: prove it in court. You can't just take my property

864
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Speaker 3: without proving something. That's an accusation. But it in between

865
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Speaker 3: would be this. There's something called sciphius. It's a committee

866
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Speaker 3: of something foreign investment. It's like when a adversary country

867
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Speaker 3: owns something that's in our us, we look at it

868
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Speaker 3: and see if we can get board that distinguishes them

869
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Speaker 3: and distances them from their country. So there are companies

870
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: like this. I know of a company. I'm not going

871
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: to mention the names. I don't want to hurt them,

872
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: but fifteen hundred Americans work for this company. It's a

873
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: good company, not as big as TikTok any means, but

874
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: it's some but three Chinese investors they say, some of

875
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: them are, you know, related to the Chinese Comage Party.

876
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: Everybody in China has some relation to the Chinese Commage Party.

877
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 3: But what they did is they set up an American board.

878
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: There's only Americans on it, no Chinese citizens on it,

879
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: and it's sort of a firewall. TikTok is offered to

880
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 3: do this. TikTok has offered to put all their records

881
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: on Oracle's cloud in housed in Texas, and so there's

882
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: all kinds of things that could be done in between

883
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: of it. But I really think it's an affront to

884
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Speaker 3: the First Amendment to tell one hundred and seventy million

885
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Speaker 3: Americans they can't use a means of expression on social media.

886
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Speaker 1: Senator Paul, I'm totally in agreement with you and have

887
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: been the whole time. And I've been looking around wondering,

888
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: you know, is everyone else in the Republican Party taking

889
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: crazy pills to me that they're taking property without proving

890
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Speaker 1: that any of the spying has happened. They think that

891
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: there could be spying going on, but yeah, there could

892
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: be a lot of different things. Why are so many

893
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Speaker 1: Republicans on board with this? Is this just the way

894
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: to look tough on China without having to actually do

895
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Speaker 1: anything about China.

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Speaker 3: Here's the most ridiculous argument. I heard this one three

897
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: times today. Well, the Chinese ban are social media companies,

898
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: so we should ban theirs. And it's like, well, that's

899
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: because that's Chinese authoritarianism. That's what we object to. That's

900
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: why we're America. We're not China. That's why we don't

901
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: reject free speech. It's just insane, but it is. It is,

902
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: and hysteria it is. They're hysterics running all around Congress,

903
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 3: mostly Republican but some Democrats too, and they want to

904
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Speaker 3: end all trade. They're gonna punish China by ending all trade.

905
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Speaker 3: And here's what I have to tell you. Look, I

906
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: don't like Chinese communism. I've written two books against Chinese communism,

907
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Speaker 3: The Case against Socialism and this you know Deception about

908
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: the Great COVID cover up in China and here. So

909
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Speaker 3: I have no love for the Chinese communists. But if

910
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Speaker 3: you really like the idea of a free Taiwan, you

911
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: like the idea of that continuing. It's very unlikely that

912
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Speaker 3: there's going to be a war in which the US

913
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Speaker 3: goes to war with mainland China beats them and we

914
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Speaker 3: keep Taiwan free. It's much more likely that if we

915
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Speaker 3: have enough trade, both US China trade and US and

916
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Speaker 3: Taiwan trade and Taiwan China trade, that China will see

917
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Speaker 3: it not in their interests, and that sounds weak. But

918
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Speaker 3: at the same time, if they don't do it in

919
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: their interests, I don't think there's a military solution, and

920
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Speaker 3: so we are better off telling the Chinese we will

921
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Speaker 3: continue to trade with you, but if you do take

922
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Speaker 3: Taywan bla force, guess what trade's over. So the threat

923
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Speaker 3: of ending trade is really about the best deterrence I

924
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Speaker 3: think we can have to keep them out of How on.

925
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Speaker 2: You ran for President Sentator Paul against Donald Trump, back

926
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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, you worked with him from twenty sixteen

927
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Speaker 2: first term. How is Trump two point zero as he

928
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: prepares to take office here in twenty twenty five different,

929
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Speaker 2: if at all, from the guy that you met and

930
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Speaker 2: ran against back in twenty fifteen, And how in your

931
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Speaker 2: mind is Trump two point oh going to compare to

932
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Speaker 2: Trump one point oh in terms of efficacy?

933
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Speaker 1: Based on what you see, I would say no.

934
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Speaker 3: Distinct philosophical difference is I think since he's been a

935
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: young man, he's been a protectionist and a big believer

936
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Speaker 3: that tariffs are the way to go now. And I

937
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: don't see eye to eye on man. I see tariffs

938
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Speaker 3: as a tax, and taxes are an impediment to trade

939
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Speaker 3: and prosperity. But what I would say is he's been

940
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Speaker 3: very consistent in that venue. He also often uses the

941
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Speaker 3: leverage of tariffs to try to get something else. So

942
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Speaker 3: the geopolitical weapon, uh, you know, it was part of

943
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 3: why we got remained in Mexico, which I thought was

944
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: very good and did work to keep people in Mexico

945
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Speaker 3: and deter the mass millions from coming across the border.

946
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Speaker 3: Something he's necessarily changed on that. I think he's been

947
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: good on taxes, good on PvP pointed to the court.

948
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Speaker 3: Relatively good on regulation. Good on regulation, i'd say, and

949
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Speaker 3: not so great on spending. And I think he's probably

950
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Speaker 3: about the same. And that's why you have to have

951
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Speaker 3: some deficit hawks like me that will stand up to

952
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Speaker 3: either Republican or a Democrat and say we can't keep

953
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: spending like drunken sailors up here. But for the most part,

954
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: you know, I will get along time. I was. I

955
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: over oversaw Governor Christinoams hearing today. One of his appointees.

956
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm all in for her, got her through the hearing.

957
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: Same with russ. Vote for omb a vast majority of

958
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: an vote something. Many of these people are people I

959
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: would have picked. Marty McCarey at FDA, he's amazing, Jay

960
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: Bodicharia and Nih amazing, RFK at HHS. Many of these

961
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: people are people I could have easily picked if I

962
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Speaker 3: were the one picking. So I'm very enthusiastic about a

963
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: lot he does. I don't think it's desly changed a lot.

964
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: The one thing I think it's going to be different

965
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: this time is he's not going to mess around the

966
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: first time around, he had to figure out, you know,

967
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: government how to run it, how to get people in positions,

968
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 3: and he had a lot of resistance from the party.

969
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: Now he is the party, He's got the pick of

970
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: the party for people to work for him. The institutional

971
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: Republican forces are not as strong anymore. They also know

972
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: that he is more popular than they are, so I

973
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: think more can get done. But still somebody has to

974
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: watch the piggybank, and somebody has to watch the debt

975
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: because there are still many Republicans up here. The only

976
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: thing they want to do is reconciliation, is bust the

977
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: military caps. And you know which really spending is spending.

978
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: We had to spend some for the military, but we

979
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: can't bank ourselves on the military either.

980
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: How how hopeful are you about those and these kind

981
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: of outside advisory efforts to help rein in the spending, Senator.

982
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: Paul, I'm enthusiastic about what they're talking about because it's

983
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about for a decade. Pointing it out

984
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: is the easier part, though, But I'm all in for him.

985
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: I know Vivek Ralswami well. I communicate with him regularly

986
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: and we have the same sort of ideas on this.

987
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: I do think it's going to take Congress's action. There

988
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: are two executive actions they could do, and they think

989
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: they have the power to impoundment. The law was written

990
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: against them. They're probably going to be rejected in court

991
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: on empowerment. And I'm not positive the money actually goes

992
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: back to the treasury. I'm not sure where the money

993
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: goes when you have found it, but I do know

994
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: that the other tool is legal, and that's called recision.

995
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: So let's say they Congress sends them a billion dollars

996
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: to build an aircraft carrier and Elon Musks goes out

997
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: there and he looks at every nut, screw and bolt

998
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: and saves two hundred million, which is really probably possible.

999
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: And everything he looks at, Let's say he saves two

1000
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 3: hundred million, he wants to send it back to Congress

1001
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: to put back in the treasury. That's called recision, and

1002
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: it's an expedited vote, meaning it has to come to

1003
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: a vote, can't be filibustered. And it's a simple majority.

1004
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: So we have a simple majority in the House and

1005
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: the Senate. If we had a simple majority with any

1006
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: kind of guts at all, we'd cut hundreds of billions

1007
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: of spending. But what you have to prepare yourself. And

1008
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: a lot of people realize is we tried a fifteen

1009
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: billion dollar recision package in the first Trump administration. They

1010
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: sent fifteen billion back in today's trillion dollar deficits. That's

1011
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: the pittance, and it's still lost. We got forty eight Republicans,

1012
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 3: lost lost two Republicans, and we lost fifty to forty

1013
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: eight on a recision package. So we still have to

1014
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: do it. And I encourage them every time. Do hundreds

1015
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: of billions, but come up here and lobby the big

1016
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: government Republicans. Make sure everybody in their state knows that

1017
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: they're voting to cripple the country through debt. And this

1018
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: is where Elon and Vivek having a big microphone or

1019
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: an amazingly large microphone could maybe convince some of these

1020
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: big government Republicans to do the right thing and vote

1021
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: for recision or cutting spending.

1022
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: Senator Paul will see you and some of your staff,

1023
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: and hopefully your wife, who I know has great taste

1024
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: in radio, hopefully round some of the inaugural events. And

1025
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 2: thanks for every Thank you for everything you're doing.

1026
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sam.

1027
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: That's Center Rampaul of Kentucky breaking down what he sees

1028
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: right now in the Senate. We'll be back put set

1029
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: the table here a bit for you for the final

1030
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: hour of the program with Joe Biden in office. That's

1031
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Speaker 2: fun to say, isn't it. That's a lot of fun

1032
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Speaker 2: to say. That coming up just in a minute. But

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Speaker 2: prize picks. Buck just ducked away. But I had to

1034
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Speaker 2: tell him in a break that it's not Sequon Barkley,

1035
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Speaker 2: it's Saquon, and he was like, what are you talking about.

1036
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Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, it's pronounced Saquon, and he

1037
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Speaker 2: already went and placed his bet. And in Florida, at least,

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Speaker 2: you are not allowed to put in multiple different more

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry less than ninety six and a half yards,

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Speaker 2: you heard, my ten year old is not happy with

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Speaker 2: that pick. But I think they're going to stack the

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Speaker 2: line against the Ravens Lamar Jackson less than fifty four

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Speaker 1: Half yards passing. I think they're gonna make the Ravens

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Speaker 1: the Bills defense, throw.

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Speaker 2: The ball Josh Allen more than one and a half

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Speaker 2: passing touchdowns, and Buck has gone all in on Saquon

1052
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Speaker 2: Barkley with more than one hundred and thirteen yards rushing.

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Speaker 2: If we're right ten to one. If you can also

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