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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and goldr Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: Matt Interesting news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bringing out of Charlotte. I say Charlotte the Cleere.

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Chargers have been working this week and

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Speaker 3: according to multiple reports out there, not only was Justin

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Speaker 3: Herbert limited on Thursday, and we haven't gotten the practice.

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Speaker 4: Report yet for today A very vague word.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was extremely very limited in yesterday's practice and

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Speaker 3: that was Thursday. He didn't practice at all on Wednesday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that ankle injury that he suffered in Sunday's game against

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers apparently more severe.

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Speaker 2: Than what Jim Harbaugh was letting on.

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Speaker 4: So maybe he's highly questionable for this week or questionable

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Speaker 4: period or game time game time decision, screams game time

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Speaker 4: decision as a coaching move, you know, like, let's not

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Speaker 4: divulge at all yet.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we don't want the Steelers to know that

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Speaker 3: we might be running East and Stick or Taylor Heinekens

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 4: Just traded for a couple of weeks ago, and neither

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Speaker 4: of whom is very good. Yeah, massive difference, of course,

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Speaker 4: And Herbert hasn't played great, but this is the way

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Speaker 4: you play defense would change so.

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Speaker 2: Dramatically monumental because Herbert has struggled this year.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't looked it hasn't looked great. He missed all

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Speaker 3: the preseason. But their receivers aren't good. No, this is

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Speaker 3: what When when people were saying that the Steelers receiver

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Speaker 3: room was the worst in football, I'm like, you need

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Speaker 3: to take a look around the league a little bit

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Speaker 3: and tell me they're the Chargers with Kilford's were Pickens.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots would kill for George Pickens. The Bills would

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Speaker 3: kill for George Pickens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the value of just him alone is pretty extreme. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It lifts that whole, entire, that entire room to above

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Speaker 3: those groups. And there's probably some other ones out there

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Speaker 3: like Denver. Yeah, Denver's receiver rooms good, and he's okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, right, right, right, But Pickens.

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Speaker 4: Is better of course, of course. And and as you

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Speaker 4: were saying that, I was sitting there thinking pickings style

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Speaker 4: of play and just sheer talent makes stick or.

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Speaker 3: He's an area thrower you put. You put the ball

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Speaker 3: in his area, and he will make you look.

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Speaker 4: Good where Herbert makes his receivers look which is what

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Speaker 4: they need right now, right exactly. You know they're not

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Speaker 4: great separators. They're not go up and get it guys.

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Speaker 4: You know that they're going to be functions of what

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Speaker 4: the quarterback does for them as opposed to the other

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Speaker 4: way around.

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Speaker 2: They need an elevator. Yeah, they're not the.

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Speaker 4: Elevator exactly exactly. So that's a rough situation. So it

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Speaker 4: sounds like, I mean, best case scenario for the Chargers

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Speaker 4: is he plays, but he's gonna be hurting.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be he's gonna be severely compromised if he

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Speaker 3: does play the mobility that he has shown over the course,

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Speaker 3: he's not gonna have that.

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Speaker 4: He's very mobile too. Yeah, and all even design runs for.

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Speaker 3: If you're Harbaugh, do you look at the big picture

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Speaker 3: here and say, yes, I'm not putting him out there

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Speaker 3: in this against this defense.

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Speaker 4: I mean I would if it's a tie, I would say,

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Speaker 4: justin you're too important. It's a long season on the

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Speaker 3: No, And again, as I said earlier in the week,

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Speaker 3: it also severely limits how you run the.

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Speaker 4: Football big time.

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Speaker 3: If he is compromised in terms of his movement, any

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Speaker 3: of that outside stretch stuff is gone. Remember to think

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Speaker 3: of Peyton Manning at the end of his career, how

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Speaker 3: often he struggled to get those those long handoffs out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to be really quick and you got

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Speaker 3: And if you think of all JK. Dobbins long runs

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Speaker 3: this year, Majordy, it's been around.

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Speaker 4: End be I think they want to run behind those tackles.

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Speaker 4: That's quickly becoming the strength of the team, which is

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Speaker 4: exactly what they want. But that part's not great for them,

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Speaker 4: let alone the throwing and the base and Herbert hasn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know which ankle it is, either whether

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Speaker 3: it's his plant ankle or it's his front end.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know what the foot was the same

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Speaker 4: really a mess right now. I don't know that part.

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Speaker 3: And as we saw in week one with the Falcons,

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Speaker 4: And that's not really hardball's offense, then play action game

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Speaker 4: might not be as good off of it and all

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Speaker 4: those things, you know, running angles, things of that nature.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think this is a real big deal

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Speaker 4: even if he still play. Yeah, I mean yeah, because

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Speaker 4: you're probably not gonn get the best You're not going

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Speaker 4: to get the best version of the no matter what,

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Speaker 4: you're not get the best version of the quarterback room

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Speaker 4: in for the Chargers organization.

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Speaker 3: If it's Easton Stick. He has started four games in

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Speaker 3: his career now, they were all last year. Yeah, in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three he went oh to four. He hit

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Speaker 3: three touchdown passes in one interception.

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Speaker 4: But you don't trade for Heineke if he loves no Yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean that's the reason that that deal happen.

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Speaker 3: Nobody says I love Stick, They love lamp, they love

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Speaker 3: you know, things like that, but they don't love Stick.

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Speaker 4: No, and they Harbaugh obviously was not happy with his

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Speaker 4: backup situation, or he.

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Speaker 2: Could just be a three quarterback guy.

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Speaker 4: Too true. True, there was nobody else. There's nobody around,

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Speaker 4: but Heinek at least has been around the block a

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Speaker 4: little bit more. Yeah, I mean, I guess Stick has

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Speaker 4: at this point too, but he's not as experienced as Heinek.

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Speaker 3: No and Heinike. Little story, a little side story. If

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Speaker 3: it is Taylor Heineke this week, maybe the Steelers will

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Speaker 3: want to start Christian Kountz and let him rush the

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Speaker 3: passer a little bit. Because Kristian Koon's first game at

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Speaker 3: Duke King as a freshman, Yeah, they're playing James Madison and.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't just a long snapper then, he's.

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Speaker 2: An outside linebacker.

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Speaker 3: In fact, he's the all time leading sacker in Dukine

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Speaker 3: program history. The long snapping games come around until later

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Speaker 3: He goes in and intercepts Taylor Heineke on a pass rush,

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Speaker 3: returns it for a touchdown. Nice against Taylor Heineke. He

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Speaker 4: How about that? Now Steel's a long snapper taken into

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Speaker 3: But even at that Heineke's started twenty four career game.

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Speaker 3: How old is he He is now thirty one?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so I mean it's something. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think there's something to his coach Tomlin says being in

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Speaker 4: and all that stuff, But he's a very limited athlete player.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just not very talented.

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Speaker 3: It would be like if the Steelers had to start

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that's the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: They're similar style like because similar quarterbacks. Right, if Kyle

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Speaker 3: Allen were starting this game this week for the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: we would certainly be picking the Chargers to win this game.

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Speaker 4: And no matter if it's a Don Herbert starter in

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Speaker 4: this game. Yeah, I'm definitely taking this with We talked about.

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Speaker 2: It all week long.

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Speaker 3: The one area on offense where they have a big

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Speaker 4: Touch the football is a quarterback. Without question, to me,

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Speaker 4: that's their biggest advantage of the whole game. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: he's capable of being great. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And if they don't have that, or if they got

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Speaker 3: somehow compromised. Now all you have is your offensive line.

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Speaker 4: And even if he's playing well, or if he plays

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Speaker 4: falls on that thing. That's the you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like there's'll be people considering this pass rush in any

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Speaker 4: NFL game, but there's a be people diving near his

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Speaker 4: feet and rolling you know, down, hitting them low.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's the same reason why the Steelers

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Speaker 3: aren't playing Russell Wilson right now. Russell Wilson could play. Yes,

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Speaker 3: if this were a playoff game and he had to play,

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Speaker 3: he would play. But the Steelers are slow playing this

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Speaker 3: because it's a long season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you'd much better roll with fields than Heinekey or.

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Speaker 2: Stick without a doubt, obvious without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: Game planning around that for a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 4: you're in a flow with that at least where this

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Speaker 4: one's gonna be like all right, you know, even with

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Speaker 4: those guys like there's past concepts you just wouldn't even call,

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, Herbert's got such a big arm.

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Speaker 4: I mean deep outs and comebacks and arm strength throws.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well think it's Greg Roman's is the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: Montrevius Adams on yesterday. He's like, yes, it looked very similar,

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Speaker 4: Certainly with less quarterback rushing attempts. Yeah, and now.

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Speaker 2: Way more nobility.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like they do like to get Herbert on

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Speaker 4: the on the moon. Yeah, you know, you know, he's

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Speaker 4: even and he can certainly run. But I mean I

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Speaker 4: would play a lot more man without question, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if he's not going to tuck it and run,

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Speaker 4: if I'm turning my back to him, right, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Which is what hurt them the last time they played

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Speaker 3: against him. They're playing man defense and everybody's down the

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Speaker 3: field and he just I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Go fifteen yards right now.

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Speaker 2: You're tired open the pass rushers, yeah, after you know.

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Speaker 4: So, No, this is good news for the Steelers chances

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Speaker 4: to win, There's no question about that. Yeah, it's big news,

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Speaker 4: though huge. I mean, it doesn't seem like I hadn't

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Speaker 4: heard of it until just now. Really, it doesn't seem

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Speaker 4: like everyone's on top of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, we'll see, we'll see, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe we have to watch him in warm ups, just

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Speaker 4: Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Again, we don't have the injury list just yet, but

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Speaker 4: If he's like ruled out by on Friday or something

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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if he's practiced in full today

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Speaker 2: What the reports were out out of Charlotte yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt he's like, Oh he's back, he's fine,

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Speaker 4: don't worry about it. Yeah, just precautionary a lot worse

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Speaker 3: Because really you can't fudge that kind of stuff, especially

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Speaker 4: If you don't like him, that's fine, that's your opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't like Ron Rivera with Heke.

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Speaker 4: That's a great way of looking at it. If he

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would definitely change.

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Speaker 4: The way I look at as opposed to we're gonna

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Speaker 4: We're just gonna see who's standing. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: Guy, it's like, now you're in desperation.

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Speaker 4: I need to try something good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're to start throwing haymakers exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's not the it's not the boxing at you. This

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Speaker 4: Swing as hard as I can. If I land one,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to it break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. When we return, we'll be

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Speaker 3: joined by Missy Matthews, right the sideline reporter for the

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Speaker 2: That's going on in Steeler Land right now.

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Speaker 5: The least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Missy?

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, I'm great. Home opener just a few days away.

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Speaker 5: It's nice to not have to pack a suitcase today.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you and by the way, happy.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's the anniversary of the first Steelers football

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Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Pirates, which would then become the Steelers, played

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Speaker 3: So September twentieth has a little meaning in Steelers history

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, not only that, because clearly that's moving in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, after winning the first two games

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Speaker 3: It kind of would give away all the good work

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially you know you didn't have the quarterback

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in twenty twenty was such a weird year too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Right, one was like a Wednesday night and then

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of change around the team. I would

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Speaker 4: think Steeler Nation is going to be tailgating starting now.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean it's crazy how nice the weather is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was beautiful in Denver, which I also

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Speaker 5: thought was weird, but perfect for one o'clock home opener.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, the tailgating is probably going to start

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Speaker 5: before the lots open, uh, knowing Steelers fans and people

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Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh, But I agree. I think just the excitement

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Speaker 5: around them. I know a few of us have been

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Speaker 5: like tossing around, like do you introduce the offense or

451
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Speaker 5: do the defense get t J. Watt like some more ammo?

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Speaker 5: You know, you get that one and a half back

453
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Speaker 5: to hit one hundred or do you let the offense

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Speaker 5: fill some love? Had they even doing good things? I

455
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Speaker 5: think it'll interesting to see, But yeah, this is definitely

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Speaker 5: one of the more highly anticipated home openers that I

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Speaker 5: can remember.

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Speaker 4: Seems that Missy.

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Speaker 3: Reports out of training are out of a practice today,

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Speaker 3: that Troy Fatano tweaked that knee, and it looks like

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Speaker 3: Broderick Jones could be in the starting lineup again this week.

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Speaker 2: You were on the sideline last week. How did he

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Speaker 2: react on the sideline after.

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Speaker 3: Getting pulled and having you know, obviously the three penalties

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Speaker 3: like that?

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Speaker 2: What was his demeanor like after that? Did you see?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I did you know.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, I don't think he was happy with himself. He

470
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Speaker 5: wasn't happy that he found out, Hey, you're not going

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Speaker 5: back in, there's no more rotation. He kind of came

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Speaker 5: over by himself. He slammed his helmet on one of

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Speaker 5: the equipment cases that's kind of behind there. Not like

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Speaker 5: anything crazy, even thorow Gatory cooler. This is not like

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Speaker 5: an Antonio Brown thing. But he just kind of sat

476
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Speaker 5: there with his head in his hands. Isaac say Yumalu

477
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Speaker 5: came over to him, a few different people and he

478
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Speaker 5: kind of regrouped himself. It's almost I was kind of

479
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Speaker 5: using this analogy when my six year old is going crazy.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, can you just take a deep breath for

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Speaker 5: a second and then we can, you know, handle these

482
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Speaker 5: big feelings you're having. And it was almost like he

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Speaker 5: did that. And before the Steelers defense from that next

484
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Speaker 5: drive was even off the field, he was over by

485
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Speaker 5: the wide receivers. He sought out. George Pickens kind of

486
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Speaker 5: did the like, hey that's on me, pounded his chest,

487
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Speaker 5: drapped him up, and he walked away. And he was

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Speaker 5: a good teammate moving forward. He didn't sit there and

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Speaker 5: take unnecessary attention away from the guys that were playing.

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Speaker 5: You know, people weren't having to baby him or try

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Speaker 5: to help him. He kind of did that on his own.

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Speaker 4: That's great. Sign is pretty obvious. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: I know the answer. I've been to camp and all

494
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Speaker 4: those things. But Isaac Samalu's a real leader on this

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Speaker 4: offense and certainly in amongst the offensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: Isn't he Yeah, and he I think he doesn't say

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Speaker 5: a lot, but his actions speak louder. Not to use

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Speaker 5: you know that phrase, but I think with him it's

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Speaker 5: very true. And I couldn't hear what he said to Broderick,

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Speaker 5: but it was very quick. He kind of kneeled down

501
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Speaker 5: so he was eye level with him and then just

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Speaker 5: kind of gave him a slap on the back, and

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Speaker 5: you know, moved away. But he's he's definitely very instrumental.

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Speaker 5: Obviously you want him out on the field because of

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Speaker 5: the type of player he is, but in terms of

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Speaker 5: especially helping the young guys, I think he's he's very clutch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as you said, he doesn't he doesn't say

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Speaker 3: a lot, but when he does speak, guys take notice.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things I can remember talking one

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Speaker 3: time with Antonio Brown when when I hosted the AB

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Speaker 3: show with him, and he mentioned that that Heath Miller

512
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Speaker 3: had pulled him aside like that one time, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: when Heath talks, you listen. No, that doesn't mean Antonio

514
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Speaker 3: necessarily did, but maybe Daday, but he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: like he's a guy that doesn't doesn't say a lot,

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Speaker 3: so when he does say something to you, you pay

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Speaker 3: attention to it a little bit more than you would

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Speaker 3: somebody who's talking all the time. And and and same

519
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Speaker 3: all is that kind of guy, I think in that

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Speaker 3: with that, especially with that offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Young group too, Yeah, yeah, they are so young, and

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Speaker 5: you know, Broderick is still young. I understand it's his

523
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Speaker 5: second year, but even if you look Troy, the amount

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Speaker 5: of starts he had in college compared to Brodericks, just

525
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Speaker 5: they're they're really trying to start gelling. They've clearly decided, hey,

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Speaker 5: we are investing in the line of scrimmage, specifically in

527
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Speaker 5: this offensive line. It just feels like for years we

528
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Speaker 5: were all spoiled of the Marquis Counties to Castro's remote fosters.

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Speaker 5: Even Alex, you just knew you had a solid group.

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Speaker 5: You know, you could go to Buffalo and Laybyon could

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Speaker 5: run for two hundred plus yards in the snow, and

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Speaker 5: it was like, no big deal, We're running the same play.

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Speaker 5: And then once all of those guys started to retire

534
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Speaker 5: and you know, move on, things got a little hairy

535
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Speaker 5: and it just seemed like the combinations weren't working as well.

536
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Speaker 5: And it finally feels like we're getting back to that,

537
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Speaker 5: but losing Isaac. I think, you know, the good thing

538
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Speaker 5: is that he was not put on IR, So who

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Speaker 5: knows what, you know when we will see him, but

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Speaker 5: I think you know the fact that he went to Denver,

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Speaker 5: he was with them, that tells me that's a good sign.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'll be sooner rather than later. To

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Speaker 3: your point, because they didn't put him on IR.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, M back to Broderick real quick. I mean, if

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Speaker 4: his first stint going on the field wasn't such a disaster,

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Speaker 4: do you think that would have been a consistent rotation

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Speaker 4: at right tackle.

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Speaker 5: You know, I thought when I had kind of figured

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Speaker 5: out and heard what they were doing, I was like, huh.

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Speaker 5: But you know, when coach Tomlin was explaining it in

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Speaker 5: more detail on Tuesday, not necessarily after the game of

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Speaker 5: You know, it's not a problem when both guys are capable,

553
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Speaker 5: and then you do think, like, okay, you were playing

554
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Speaker 5: in Denver. He knew Troy was healthy, he was clean,

555
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Speaker 5: he was cleared medically, but it is you know, will

556
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Speaker 5: he condition wise be able to handle it? I mean

557
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Speaker 5: to me, when I interviewed TJ. Watt on the field

558
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Speaker 5: after the game, he was still hopping and puffing and

559
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Speaker 5: talked about, you know, how great it was to get

560
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Speaker 5: the win and dealing with the altitude and everything, not

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Speaker 5: just the Broncos in what they were presenting.

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Speaker 4: Did you really think the altitude was a big deal

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Speaker 4: to them? I thought that it was late in the

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Speaker 4: game Denver, the inferior team was making it more interesting.

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Speaker 4: They should because of conditioning, altitude, you know where they

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Speaker 4: were playing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in the first half, I was just kind of

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Speaker 5: looking and honestly, it was like Cam Hayward, who has

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Speaker 5: asthma and who said he would need the oxygen. It

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Speaker 5: wasn't it wasn't noticeable, But definitely in the second half,

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Speaker 5: more and more guys, I think, you know, why not

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Speaker 5: if it can help you and it's literally sitting behind

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Speaker 5: you and they just give it to you. Right there

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Speaker 5: with that mask. So I don't think it was, you know,

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Speaker 5: a huge thing they had to deal with. I think

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Speaker 5: they were just trying to be very smart and making

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Speaker 5: sure guys were hydrated and able to deal with it

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Speaker 5: in terms of their bodies.

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Speaker 3: Well, our guest has been Missy Matthews, Steelers sideline reporter.

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Speaker 3: I can listen to her on the broadcast on well

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Speaker 3: these very airwaves on wherever you listen to your game

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Speaker 3: at certainly you'll hear Missy is the with the guys

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Speaker 3: on there. Missy looking forward to the game this weekend.

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Speaker 3: We'll listen to you on the call. I hope you

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Speaker 3: have a good weekend.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, I appreciate it, and I'll see you on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good, Missy. That was Missy Matthews, Steeler sideline reporter.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. There's only one and Matt. We

607
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Speaker 3: had a game last night did we three kicked off

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Speaker 3: and I thought it would be a low scoring game.

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Speaker 3: It was a low scoring game on one side of

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Speaker 3: the ledger. As the Chests beat the Patriots twenty four

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Speaker 3: to three, do you view that as the Jets being back.

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00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers threw for two hundred and eighty one yards

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Speaker 3: and two touchdowns. They also ran for one hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty three yards or was that a Patriots team that

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Speaker 3: just not very talented in a short week?

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Speaker 4: Couple things and a lot of both. To be honest

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Speaker 4: with you, I mean I tweeted out in the third quarter.

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Speaker 4: So here's the Patriot team we all expected in the offseason,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what they looked like, especially on offense.

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Speaker 4: The offensive line is really really bad and give up

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Speaker 4: seven sacks and yeah, and even like let's pick up

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Speaker 4: and some fundamental stuff, let alone just not being very

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Speaker 4: talented up front.

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Speaker 2: Once sixty one yards passing.

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Speaker 4: At brutal and there was garbage time involved in the

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Speaker 4: first round pick. And you just look at the Patriots

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Speaker 4: like they are massively overmatched. And that's what we thought

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Speaker 4: they would be going into the season. Now, they were

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Speaker 4: only losing fourteen to three at the half, and their

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Speaker 4: obvious formula was running the football shortened in the game

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Speaker 4: the first two weeks, and that reasonably worked well, but

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Speaker 4: Ramandre Stevenson ended up with like six or seven carries

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Speaker 4: for twenty three yards.

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Speaker 2: I mean anything, because they couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Throw it, true, but I thought at least could stick

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Speaker 4: with your formula. And I wanna run one thing by

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Speaker 4: you before we talk with the Jets, is these coaching

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Speaker 4: staffs that are new their first Thursday night game, I

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Speaker 4: think I'm betting against them every time.

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Speaker 2: It's tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the.

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Speaker 2: Work week, you don't you know, they've never done it.

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Speaker 4: I mean people don't think about that stuff like sure

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Speaker 4: you've been on staffs, but you haven't been in charge

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Speaker 4: of the preparation. Yeah, I mean that's a much different deal,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna pay attention to that going forward. That

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Speaker 4: new staffs on Thursday night, especially on the road, especially

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Speaker 4: in early in the season.

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Speaker 3: Not only I'm not staff Matt, but it's a new staff,

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Speaker 3: a new quarterback too. Verette wasn't their quarterback last year.

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Speaker 3: And that offensive line, you know, mismatch. I mean it

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Speaker 3: was a mismatch in that respect. But I'm with you

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Speaker 3: on the on the short week with with new staffs, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and especially when our quarterback into the equation or even if.

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Speaker 4: You played on Monday night the week before new staff

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Speaker 4: just's not a normal work week. Short work week.

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Speaker 3: And it's something that Bob Labriola brought up to us

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Speaker 3: a few years ago in regards.

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Speaker 2: To the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Yes, like orn the Browns because they were on primetime

661
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Speaker 4: like five times. Yeah, they were the most.

662
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you go from being a team

663
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Speaker 3: that nobody's paying any attention to to now you're a

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Speaker 3: team that's in primetime all the time, and it changes

665
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Speaker 3: your preparation week A great deal.

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Speaker 4: Monday night game you come home at what four in

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Speaker 4: the morning or something like that. I mean, and that's

668
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Speaker 4: with police escorts and a private jet and the easiest travels.

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Speaker 2: So now you got one fewer day to prepare.

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Speaker 3: You know, even if Tuesday's you're off day for the players,

671
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Speaker 3: it's not for the head.

672
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Speaker 4: It's not for coach. Coach's exhausted all week. Yeah, I mean,

673
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: they're scrambling behind. It's still work the state. The same

674
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: amount of job needs done. You just don't have the

675
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Speaker 4: capability to do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know for a fact that some of

677
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Speaker 3: the Steelers assistant coaches when they've played on the West

678
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Speaker 3: Coast in the past, have been watching the next week's

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Speaker 3: game tape on the flight home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, not even like correcting things that just

681
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Speaker 4: went wrong. No, you gotta start watch Chargers down right

682
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: or whatever. Yeah, I think that's a big deal. As

683
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Speaker 4: for the Jets, I'd be pretty happy where I'm at.

684
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: This Reddick stuff is crazy. I mean, I don't know

685
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Speaker 4: how you trade for a guy who's not happy with

686
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Speaker 4: his contract and think now he's happy with the exactly

687
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: contract in New York, right, right.

688
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Speaker 2: It's more expensive to live here.

689
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Speaker 4: But he'll be okay, right because I don't know if

690
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Speaker 4: the agent and the team thought they had a deal

691
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Speaker 4: and it fell through or what. But you don't make

692
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Speaker 4: any talks at all, like it, right, how do you

693
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Speaker 4: make that trade? So he might get traded twice in

694
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Speaker 4: a month and a half or something without They never.

695
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Speaker 2: Was right, like, what are you going to get for him?

696
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Speaker 2: At this point?

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Speaker 4: Lesson you gave up? Right, definitely lesson you gave up

698
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: because they're like, well that's the going rate. I'm not

699
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: going to give more because I'm gonna have to pay

700
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: I pay him out to you because maybe he's hard

701
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Speaker 4: to deal with. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing for a team trading for him.

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Speaker 3: You know, going in, well he he's not going to

704
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Speaker 3: play if he doesn't get a new contract.

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Speaker 4: Well the Jets should have known that. I mean, he

706
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: did that with the Eagles, and that's weird on the Jets.

707
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: The Jets screwed that up. I don't feel bad for

708
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Speaker 4: them at all. For them, they also lose Johnson, the

709
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Speaker 4: first round pick from two years ago, who I think

710
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 4: has a chance to be a really good player. I mean,

711
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: his flashes in the league have been really, really good. However,

712
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Speaker 4: or I didn't see coming was McDonald, last year's first

713
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Speaker 4: round pick. He has five sacks and two games. I mean, like,

714
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Speaker 4: where'd he kill from? I mean his first round pick.

715
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Speaker 4: I mean he's talented dude, but he's a pure speedball

716
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: off the edge. Yeah, I bet I like his style

717
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: of play. I mean, he'd be an edge guy here,

718
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: of course. But as for the Jets, I looked at

719
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: them and think I could definitely see them in the playoffs.

720
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Speaker 4: Although Morgan Moses got hurt. You know, how long is

721
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: Tyron Smith going to be himself? Is Rogers going to

722
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Speaker 4: look like that in November at his age? I don't know,

723
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: but he was impressive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very precarious situation for New York. They're

725
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: kind of straddling the line of hey, we're contender now,

726
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: but you know, we got a.

727
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a fragile group, but Hall and Wilson and

728
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: they got Williams a little bit involved, and Conkling had

729
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: a bunch of targets. That's a good enough group for me.

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Speaker 4: If the O line is what we think it can

731
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Speaker 4: be and Rogers plays like that, I mean he's in

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Speaker 4: command and they oh I remember that, guy? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You is that the way this game played out make

734
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Speaker 3: you think less of the Bengals for losing to this

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Speaker 3: Patriots team in Week.

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Speaker 4: One a little? I mean, that's different than Seattle having

737
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: to go all the way to New England and take

738
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Speaker 4: it to overtime. I don't know what to think of

739
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 4: the Bengal.

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Speaker 3: Patriots got pushed around or that. I'm sorry the Bengals

741
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: got pushed around in that.

742
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Speaker 4: I would say they were the less physical team, you know,

743
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 4: worst PAD level, And I blame Taylor for this. I

744
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: mean every year, the first couple of games, the Bengals

745
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 4: get pushed around and yeah, arn is in good a

746
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: shape and Arnt is football ready, and they don't seem

747
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: to learn from it.

748
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they'll probably win this week. We'll get

749
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Speaker 3: to the game picks later in the show.

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Speaker 4: Looks like they'll get Higgins back.

751
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing Washington this week, But we said that when

752
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: they were playing the Patriots in Week one, and behold,

753
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I will pick the Bengals in

754
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Speaker 3: the first two weeks of the season ever again, unless.

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Speaker 4: They start playing Borrow. Unless they do something, Yeah, at

756
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 4: least they change it up a little bit or I

757
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: mean that might be a theme for all teams, but

758
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: especially this one, because whatever they're doing isn't working. It

759
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: doesn't that's not the right recipe. It's not the right recipe.

760
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: You know, can scratch it, go back to the store

761
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Speaker 4: and try again, you know. So that part doesn't make

762
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Speaker 4: a lot of sense for me for that organization. But

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Speaker 4: I like where the Jets are at today. Yeah, I

764
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Speaker 4: mean I think they're one of the best seven teams

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Speaker 4: in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's as we talked about earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: That group is.

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Speaker 2: A lot thinner than what we thought it was when

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Speaker 2: the season started.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like or the Jags in that conversation, in that conversation,

771
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: so Miami, no too.

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Speaker 3: We although there was a report today that Tuam made

773
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Speaker 3: the trip with.

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Speaker 2: The Seattle interesting.

775
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's on IR but yeah, odd, okay, But

776
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Speaker 4: I mean those teams are being uniformal people ripping if

777
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: he puts the helmet on the listen in. But no,

778
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Speaker 4: like the Jags, Colts, Browns probably and Dolphins I thought

779
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 4: were all close to or on the same tier as

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, And now I look at all four of

781
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: those teams and think I don't know if their playoff team.

782
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers are better.

783
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Speaker 4: Steelers are better than the all four of those teams.

784
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Speaker 4: To me, I'm not sure I'm ready to put the

785
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: Browns quite there, because Watson being bad isn't a shock

786
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 5: You know.

788
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, we knew that three weeks ago, really bad.

789
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Speaker 3: Like right, you thought, maybe he gets to be you know,

790
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: mid level quarterback again and he's not been.

791
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Speaker 4: The right and like maybe maybe this is best year

792
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Speaker 4: as a Brown.

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00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't look that well, No, it doesn't

794
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: know that's gonna happen. And they can't run the football.

795
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: They can't run the football, and they've had the tackle

796
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: injury and things like that. And yeah, the offense, I

797
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: don't know what they hang their hat on. You know,

798
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: the joke gouz Out, I mean, he was important to

799
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 4: them late last year. Yeah, so defense has to do everything.

800
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why this game against the Chargers this week

801
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: for the Steelers is going to be telling.

802
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: It'd be nice to put the Chargers in that bit. Yes,

803
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like, oh, they had two

804
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: flukey wins against or somebody describing the Raiders run game

805
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: and said, as bad as the Panthers are the Raiders

806
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: run game might be the worst thing in the NFL

807
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: right now, and that's came to fruition in week one. Yeah,

808
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: and then you play the worst team in the league

809
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: by a million, Yeah, if the Steelers handle them with

810
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: or without Herbert. And then you look at the Chargers

811
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: a month from now and they're two and three or yeah,

812
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: three and six or whatever down the road, and you're like,

813
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: h they weren't really in the mix either, like we

814
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: thought in the preseason. We didn't think they were in

815
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: the really a contender type mix.

816
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: No, And that'll be interesting, you know, just from do

817
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: people start believing nationally in this Steelers team.

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Speaker 4: If that happens, probably, you know, it goes a long way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of the way we finished last week's yesterday's show,

820
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: I should say, you know, are the unbeaten?

821
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Who do you believe in? And who don't you believe in?

822
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Speaker 4: I would think the winner of this game people will

823
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 4: believe in right or wrong.

824
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, just because you've beaten

825
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: another to an OH team, but it's still two and oh.

826
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Speaker 4: Still Yeah, I don't know. I still expect the Chargers

827
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: to be a seven eight win team. Yeah, something like that.

828
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Speaker 3: Take an easy schedule. I mean, now two of those

829
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: games are already behind.

830
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Speaker 4: Them, right, they're in great shape.

831
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Speaker 3: You're not going to have an easier game than the

832
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Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers with young a quarter.

833
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Speaker 4: No, I think the narrative on the Chargers will be like, oh,

834
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: they came. You know, it's a decent first Harbaugh year.

835
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Speaker 4: They still need a lot. They started hot, but they

836
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 4: were a bit of a fougazy, you know what I mean.

837
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Speaker 4: So we'll see they could win Sunday saying the extinc.

838
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Speaker 3: But the Patriots now one and two, the Jets now

839
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: two and one, so they've kind of righted the ship

840
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: from you know that week one.

841
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in a pretty decent spot right now.

842
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: Although they've now beaten the Titans and the Patriots exactly.

843
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: Some of these things when these small sample size, we

844
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: can do more than just the Chargers and be like, yeah,

845
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: they really weren't as good as we thought. Yeah again,

846
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: like I don't think the Lions are bad, but they're

847
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: winning against the Rams. Doesn't look nearly as good now

848
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 4: as it does then. Yeah, you know, Steelers win against

849
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: the Falcons looks better than it did at the time.

850
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: You know. So, yeah, we'll get more and more information.

851
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: Give me.

852
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: Let me see the Jets play the Bills and go

853
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: toe to toe with them or something like that.

854
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 4: Right, I want to see the Saints play the Eagles

855
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: this week. Yeah, and if they put forty five on

856
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: them and be like wow, I mean this offense is

857
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: one of the best in the league. Yeah, I mean

858
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: it's different too at the Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lully. You're listening to the Drive here

861
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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. That's going to do it

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Speaker 3: for hour number one, Matt. Now, we'll be back with

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Speaker 3: our number two right after this