Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Our super special bonus guests this week is none other
Speaker 2: than Denise Richards. And I mean, guys, do you remember
Speaker 2: watching Wild Things growing up? Denise Richards is iconic, especially
Speaker 2: in our Yes group our age.
Speaker 3: I don't really remember really.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was all in which like crazy and
Speaker 2: this is so I auditioned for like wild Things. It
Speaker 2: would have been like four at this point. It was
Speaker 2: one of my very first auditions. It's actually quite funny,
Speaker 2: but not to like look this, but I just had to,
Speaker 2: like because I would never talk about this any other place.
Speaker 2: But I was so excited because like wild Things was
Speaker 2: such a big movie in our era and high school,
Speaker 2: and so it was the it was like wild Things
Speaker 2: four or something crazy like that. And I remember my
Speaker 2: agent at times she was like it calls for showing
Speaker 2: your boobs, and so I was like, okay, yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: do it, like I'm totally doing it, and she's like,
Speaker 2: I really want you to think about this, like I
Speaker 2: got casted in it, like it was a full on
Speaker 2: cast I got. I did the audition, hired and she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's frontal boobs. It was just that point.
Speaker 2: It was just like a flash of boobs and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it, and she goes, I need
Speaker 2: you to remember that this will be and this was
Speaker 2: back in the day. I mean, this was before give
Speaker 2: us a year. Okay, when was I on Friday night
Speaker 2: Lights that would have been. This was I mean before
Speaker 2: One Tree Hill, so I mean before social media. But
Speaker 2: still she's like, this will be on the internet. The
Speaker 2: internet was obviously around, so she's like, this is something
Speaker 2: that will be on the internet and you won't be
Speaker 2: able to erase this. I'm like, I know, but I
Speaker 2: need the money. And it's like I'd just done Gray's Anatomy,
Speaker 2: just little roles here, and I would be like red
Speaker 2: in the bank account, you know, just fighting my way
Speaker 2: to try to like get to a zero balance on
Speaker 2: my on my card or my bank statement. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I want to do it. I want to
Speaker 2: do it. I'm like I'm going to do it, like
Speaker 2: accept it, say yes for me, and she was just like,
Speaker 2: I really just need you to take a night to
Speaker 2: think about it, and so she just kept telling me
Speaker 2: to say no. So I ended up turning down the
Speaker 2: roll in A day later, I booked Frida night Lights
Speaker 2: and she was like, I told.
Speaker 4: You, and I was like, oh my god. I almost
Speaker 4: totally went titty lesson.
Speaker 2: I was like, I must just show my ted sun friggin'
Speaker 2: And I've always thought about that because it would have
Speaker 2: changed a lot, I think for me in general, just
Speaker 2: with everything.
Speaker 5: I mean, it is a pivotal moment when an actress
Speaker 5: decides to show parts of her body. I think because
Speaker 5: it especially for Wild Things four or whatever.
Speaker 4: It was, you know what I mean. It was like.
Speaker 2: If it was like Swordfish and I'm you know, Holly
Speaker 2: Berry or whatever that movie was. You know, when she's
Speaker 2: showing her it's a little bit different. That's where I'm
Speaker 2: now I would pick where I choose media. It's like
Speaker 2: is a going to move the needle? Is it going
Speaker 2: to be? But I was just so desperate for a
Speaker 2: work and be money, and you're also young. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean so I thought, you know, Wild Things, why not?
Speaker 2: It changed these Richard's career? Why not Wild Things? For
Speaker 2: Why Things again? Show some boobs and there you go.
Speaker 2: I mean, I too could have an only fans account
Speaker 2: right now? I have fan Could you do only fans?
Speaker 2: I mean, if it made me money. At this point,
Speaker 2: she makes two million dollars a month. You know, people
Speaker 2: like put her or her daughter Denise Richard's okay, so
Speaker 2: I think her million dollar daughter makes a lot too.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but I'm not Denise Richards. I don't know
Speaker 5: that I'm pulling it in right.
Speaker 2: But if you could make let's just say, if you
Speaker 2: could make two million dollars a year on only fans,
Speaker 2: would you do it?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: It depends what I'm showing, because some people show their
Speaker 5: big toe and bank you know, there's some creeps out there.
Speaker 5: I mean, if it's my big toe and these little
Speaker 5: polish fe can be like my way to like financial freedom,
Speaker 5: let's do it right, Yes, bear your soul see what
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 2: But it just I mean how because I always think
Speaker 2: there's always a price for everything. People say, yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna do that.
Speaker 3: Sure, there's always price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for how much? Would you?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Yep? And everybody's price is different. One person, you know, Alan,
Speaker 2: if I said eat this piece of cheese, someone would
Speaker 2: eat it for free, you know. Yeah, So I just
Speaker 2: am curious and my question to you while we wait
Speaker 2: for the lovely Denise Richards to come on the show,
Speaker 2: what would you do and how much for I.
Speaker 5: Would say, also the state of these moops if I
Speaker 5: didn't have kids and somebody wanted to pay me to
Speaker 5: see them and be like, yeah, girls, it's hard time
Speaker 5: to shine. Just kidding, I have children. I won't show
Speaker 5: any nudity.
Speaker 6: But I have a.
Speaker 2: Question though I've never been on OnlyFans, so I don't
Speaker 2: even know what I don't either.
Speaker 3: I don't either.
Speaker 2: It is like, what's the difference is it? Is it
Speaker 2: a porn site?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 5: I think you can get scanned list, But then there
Speaker 5: are people that just go kind of specifically for their
Speaker 5: own little fetishes.
Speaker 7: I have no idea, like I just assume it's something
Speaker 7: where people go for just fetishes. Like so, either I've
Speaker 7: only heard of feet, and then I get a.
Speaker 2: Lot of Wiki feet things like they say, wait, like
Speaker 2: when I post and I don't mean to, but if
Speaker 2: I'm like the pool, they're like, oh your feet five
Speaker 2: stars on Wiki feet or whatever, it's Wiki feet. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess it's like a I don't who
Speaker 2: knows there's a Wiki feet Maybe not, but that's what
Speaker 2: they say. I'm there, But I'm like, I've thought I've
Speaker 2: often so I was a little curious, so I went on,
Speaker 2: but you can't. You have to sign up for her.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to get like a snippet of what
Speaker 2: it was. So I'm like, listen, I'm not against seeing
Speaker 2: what it's like.
Speaker 3: Maybe she can tell us.
Speaker 2: Do you think we can ask her? So she's says,
Speaker 2: you fully watched her show?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're there. Yeah, we can definitely ask her.
Speaker 2: Would you do OnlyFans and for how much?
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know how much, but it would it
Speaker 7: would take a lot. A I hate feet, so I
Speaker 7: don't even know that I could do the thing.
Speaker 4: Hands.
Speaker 2: I mean, your hands are pretty hot, yet.
Speaker 4: I could do hands.
Speaker 3: You would do hands for a lot?
Speaker 7: Like they just like a little bit of money, so
Speaker 7: different just don't I don't want to know what they're
Speaker 7: doing with just tried it on in their brain.
Speaker 2: She was like, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think hands would be the only thing because feet
Speaker 7: literally weired me out. Interesting if I hate feet, so no,
Speaker 7: and no, and then I could double again that's a no.
Speaker 7: I mean again, everything has a price, for sure. I
Speaker 7: don't know what it would take to get me naked baked.
Speaker 4: You we were talking about boots.
Speaker 5: I just said, I wouldn't do it if it was
Speaker 5: just a feet thing. I could read a book to
Speaker 5: someone and that turns them on.
Speaker 4: Made me.
Speaker 2: You said show, I mean they do?
Speaker 4: Don't They do? They do? Because that's what.
Speaker 2: Does she doesn't. I'm pretty sure I mean wild things.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 7: We need to ask, so I can't say that she's
Speaker 7: showing some Yeah, let's.
Speaker 5: Follow Jamna and Holy fans at Kramer. Wild things for God,
Speaker 5: you just create. I just remember a teacher got in
Speaker 5: trouble for only fans. That's the only way I even
Speaker 5: know about it. She was a teacher and she would
Speaker 5: dress a little sexy and she did this only fans.
Speaker 5: But it's how she paid her bills because teaching wasn't lucrative,
Speaker 5: and some a parent found it because a parent that's awful.
Speaker 2: Stop yes, like a dad a dad? Oh no? But
Speaker 2: then how does that conversation got what I'm saying that
Speaker 2: his wife and says, let me jay, And then she said,
Speaker 2: why the hell are you an Holy fan?
Speaker 7: Let me let me clarify. Okay, So I don't sound
Speaker 7: like I don't know what I'm talking about. Don't talking
Speaker 7: about she shares explicit content on her OnlyFans account, including
Speaker 7: bikini and lingerie photos, as well as some topless images.
Speaker 2: Get it, Denise at fifty four? Isn't she fifty four? Okay?
Speaker 2: I just googled is OnlyFans porn site, and Wikipedia says
Speaker 2: fans is Only Fans is an internet content subscription service
Speaker 2: based in London. Interesting. The service is popular with sex
Speaker 2: workers who produce pornography.
Speaker 3: So back to the naked part.
Speaker 5: I'm just wondering if we can edit this down and
Speaker 5: take out the part where I said I would do.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I thought we knew that. That's why I was didn't
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 2: I really just thought it was like because by subscription only,
Speaker 2: content creators can share nude photos of themselves, live stream
Speaker 2: porn pornographic videos, and even virtually interact.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to go back. No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Money, answered cat and hand.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, so I was misinformed. In my feet are
Speaker 2: going to stay in my sock? What if it was
Speaker 2: just the feet though?
Speaker 3: No, just she's like, let's look at this.
Speaker 2: I gotta pay my ex husband somehow. And I'm saying
Speaker 2: a little, you know, totally rad mo. Yeah, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stop reading because it does not sound super safe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and now your account has been flagged. Yeah, oh game,
Speaker 5: but listen.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Well, and I think she's established herself in a field
Speaker 5: where that feels less overwhelming to her. Sure, so she
Speaker 5: might as well share for profit.
Speaker 7: Well, I also think, you know, keep in mind, her
Speaker 7: daughter signed up first and started making a lot of money.
Speaker 7: So that's the daughter twenty something. I need to And
Speaker 7: I was going to ask her the age difference in
Speaker 7: her daughter's because that's an interesting dynamic. But she did
Speaker 7: it first. I think Denise got a lot of pushback
Speaker 7: and the fact that her daughter was on it, but
Speaker 7: then saw how lucrative it was, and she was like,
Speaker 7: oh what am I doing?
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 3: That's how I understood it.
Speaker 2: So well, let's take a break and get it on.
Speaker 2: You were born hot. Look at you.
Speaker 6: Oh stop, that's true.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about how wild Things was A
Speaker 2: was it was our high school pivotal pivotal movie. We
Speaker 2: loved it.
Speaker 6: I loved it.
Speaker 2: It was it was. It was good. We loved it.
Speaker 2: You're amazing, Thank you for coming on. We'll just dive
Speaker 2: right into it. Girls, do you want to go ahead?
Speaker 5: I just always have felt like you're my like hot
Speaker 5: older sister that I always wanted, like you were the
Speaker 5: one brave enough to go before me and just do
Speaker 5: all the things my little heart thought that they could do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe I don't know. There's a little Denise
Speaker 2: Richards and us all, don't you think?
Speaker 6: I think so?
Speaker 2: Tell us.
Speaker 5: Let's start with You've lived so much life as an
Speaker 5: actress and as a personality and just in as a celebrity,
Speaker 5: and you've done scripted and you've done reality.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite?
Speaker 6: I like both?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know it's I think, Well, my heart is
Speaker 1: I love acting. I love being on set and the
Speaker 1: collaboration and you know, working with everyone and playing different characters,
Speaker 1: and I just I just love being on set, and
Speaker 1: so I guess I would have to say scripted.
Speaker 6: But I also have enjoyed doing reality too.
Speaker 1: It's in a way it's kind of harder, you know,
Speaker 1: being yourself and putting yourself out there and being so
Speaker 1: open and vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I done that really well. I think that's the
Speaker 2: piece that would be the hardest thing, because behind a character,
Speaker 2: you can kind of hide behind a character but you
Speaker 2: are the character exactly reality.
Speaker 5: I would guess that the challenge would be too like
Speaker 5: defining the characters around you because they don't have a script,
Speaker 5: but they are definitely characters when you're on reality, like
Speaker 5: they are such unique personality types.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think though, the best is to just be yourself
Speaker 1: and try to not become a character caricature of yourself.
Speaker 1: And I think that sometimes it's hard to do. In
Speaker 1: our for our show with my family, one of the
Speaker 1: things that I told my girls was just be you.
Speaker 1: Just be you, and you know, because I think that
Speaker 1: people can also see through that if you're trying to
Speaker 1: be something you're not or someone you're not, and it's
Speaker 1: so that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: Did you actually enjoy being on the Housewives?
Speaker 6: I did most of it. There was parts of it.
Speaker 6: I did it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, my first season, I really
Speaker 1: loved it and it was so I was so I
Speaker 1: went into it just like this will be fun and
Speaker 1: I'm filming moments with you know, my friends and made
Speaker 1: and made new friends. And then the second sea and
Speaker 1: it was really hard for me to have I just
Speaker 1: felt like it gets boring too after you keep talking
Speaker 1: about this fighting about the same damn thing over and
Speaker 1: over and over, and then also feeling like there's a
Speaker 1: group that's coming at you all the time.
Speaker 6: So that was hard for me to navigate because I
Speaker 6: wasn't used to that.
Speaker 1: I'm the type that can let stuff roll off my
Speaker 1: back and we move on from it. And I think
Speaker 1: that some of the women had a hard time with
Speaker 1: that too, that I didn't let certain things bother me
Speaker 1: the way they thought I should. And but you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I wanted to be myself on that show.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to, you know, fight if I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like it.
Speaker 2: Sure, that makes sense. Absolutely. So we all have daughters,
Speaker 2: and what is your best advice for raising daughters? But
Speaker 2: then also when you get to the adolescence when you
Speaker 2: are because we're all going to butt heads with our girls,
Speaker 2: So what is some advice you could give us that
Speaker 2: you have seen while raising your daughters.
Speaker 6: You will get through it.
Speaker 1: It is there are some difficult years, I feel like
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen with moms and daughters. Especially most of the
Speaker 1: time it's you know that they do butt heads with
Speaker 1: mom and they're trying to find their own independence. But
Speaker 1: my advice, like what I would always tell my girls
Speaker 1: from the time they were really little, was to just
Speaker 1: always be them. Don't be pressured to do things they
Speaker 1: don't want to do or say things they don't want
Speaker 1: to say. And you know, and I think that they
Speaker 1: are strong girls with strong minds. And my dad would
Speaker 1: tell me because sometimes they were a little too strong
Speaker 1: when they.
Speaker 6: Were a little younger. He goes, you'll be thankful when
Speaker 6: they're older that they are so strong. I know it's
Speaker 6: hard now because you know it's coming at you.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was a single mo and balancing.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have someone to be the bad guy.
Speaker 1: I was the bad guy and the good guy, So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a lot of challenges, especially
Speaker 1: to being a single parent.
Speaker 2: Sure it's co parenting.
Speaker 5: Was with Charlie a challenge or do you feel like
Speaker 5: an overall great experience if you could go thirty thousand
Speaker 5: feet or you can go ground level if you want to.
Speaker 6: Truthfully, it wasn't co parenting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you had soul custody for a while.
Speaker 1: Right had I parent my way, he parents his way,
Speaker 1: and there was no co parenting.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I wish there was, and to this day it's
Speaker 2: still pretty well.
Speaker 1: Our girls are older, but still, I mean, we're always
Speaker 1: going to be their parents. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: really I asked him to go to lunch. I ran
Speaker 1: into him and said, you know, why don't we go
Speaker 1: have lunch and like hang out and talk. I'm friends
Speaker 1: with a lot of my exes, but I'm and it's weird.
Speaker 6: I have kids with.
Speaker 1: Him, and I'm not really I'm friendly with Charlie, but
Speaker 1: I wish we were friends and that we could talk
Speaker 1: all the time and be able to be there really
Speaker 1: for each other with our girls. But it's just not
Speaker 1: the relationship we have. Maybe one day, but I mean
Speaker 1: there right now. I mean there's no there's nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: there's no discord between he and I, which is great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I often think about that because I'm
Speaker 2: in a co parenting situation. And at first when we
Speaker 2: got divorced, it was like, all right, you know, I
Speaker 2: want everyone to get along and we're going to be friends.
Speaker 2: And then I realized it was like, I actually don't
Speaker 2: want to be friends with you from you cheating on
Speaker 2: me a bunch and you know, so I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is it's too soon to be friends, And I think
Speaker 2: maybe down the line there could be a friendship, but
Speaker 2: now it's it's like too fresh, too soon, and I
Speaker 2: don't really want to be your friend, you know. And
Speaker 2: I think that's okay too.
Speaker 1: I was always an advocate of wanting everything to be
Speaker 1: great and be friends and blend the family because he
Speaker 1: had two boys with his wife after me, and you know,
Speaker 1: I because I just I just didn't want the girls
Speaker 1: to feel like they had to choose sides. I've always
Speaker 1: wanted him to be there for all the birthday parties
Speaker 1: and holidays, and I always invited him and sometimes you
Speaker 1: would come. And I think it's good for the kids
Speaker 1: to see that too. But I also understand where you're
Speaker 1: coming from too that you know, everyone has their their
Speaker 1: way of doing it.
Speaker 6: I never talked.
Speaker 1: Bad about him in front of the kids, and that's
Speaker 1: hard to do, to hold your tongue and not say
Speaker 1: certain things at times. But and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I did a disservice to them with that as well,
Speaker 1: because now that they're older, they're discovering things that they
Speaker 1: didn't know.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: That was one of my questions too, because my husband,
Speaker 2: my ex husband, you know, he very publicly had a
Speaker 2: sex addiction and so one day, our kids are going
Speaker 2: to see that aline everywhere. And yeah, we've also talked
Speaker 2: about it here because again it was all open and public.
Speaker 2: So did you have a conversation with them about things
Speaker 2: that happened before they googled?
Speaker 6: Or No?
Speaker 1: I did not because the girls weren't and they weren't
Speaker 1: ones to google us because they didn't, you know, were
Speaker 1: mom and dad and they you know, and obviously you
Speaker 1: know their dad.
Speaker 6: He had a lot of public stuff too, and it
Speaker 6: is it's hard.
Speaker 1: There were things that I would tell them, you know,
Speaker 1: you might hear something at school. If you have any questions,
Speaker 1: please come to me, And they weren't.
Speaker 6: They didn't even ask, But what what is it?
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, you know, So I did have to
Speaker 1: tell them because this is where I was kind of
Speaker 1: upset with Charlie that he didn't warn me when he
Speaker 1: came out publicly that he had has HIV. He went
Speaker 1: on the Today Show. I knew that he was gonna
Speaker 1: eventually because he had to because the tabloids found out,
Speaker 1: but I wish he gave me a heads up, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it today.
Speaker 6: You know, because it was everywhere.
Speaker 1: I ended up picking up as soon as I picked
Speaker 1: up the girls.
Speaker 6: I think I picked them up early from school that day.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't want kids at school if they heard
Speaker 1: anything on their phones or you know. So I had
Speaker 1: to have a conversation about that, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of hard to explain to them what it was. But
Speaker 1: that was the only time I can remember. You know,
Speaker 1: There's been a few things that I've had to have
Speaker 1: conversations with, but for the most part, I really tried
Speaker 1: to shelter them from a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5: Do you have a good mom support group? Like who
Speaker 5: do you go to advice as a mom? Because I
Speaker 5: know it's you know, in these kinds of industries, we're
Speaker 5: all in entertainment in some sort and like, yeah, I've
Speaker 5: noticed that I stay more guarded recently, you know, like
Speaker 5: I can't just maybe spill my heart to a neighbor
Speaker 5: like I used.
Speaker 2: To, you know, And so who do you lean into?
Speaker 6: Well, back when.
Speaker 1: I was going through a lot of stuff with him,
Speaker 1: it was so public, and I actually found myself that
Speaker 1: I was kind of guarded because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: keep talking about it because I had to talk about
Speaker 1: it with lawyers and my publicist, who she was amazing
Speaker 1: soundboard for me too, but it was my dad. Actually,
Speaker 1: I talked to him a lot because I trusted him.
Speaker 6: I could tell him anything.
Speaker 1: And at that time too, it was hard because there
Speaker 1: were so many different stories that I found myself just
Speaker 1: kind of isolating myself a lot, which probably wasn't the healthiest,
Speaker 1: but I had to just protect myself. And I also
Speaker 1: didn't want to always talk about it because it was
Speaker 1: just it was a lot. I went through a lot
Speaker 1: and it, you know, and I always had talked to
Speaker 1: my sister, she was great, and you know, just different friends.
Speaker 1: Friends that weren't parents I talked to and friends that were.
Speaker 1: But for the most part when it was really really bad,
Speaker 1: I kind of I wanted to pretend like everything was okay.
Speaker 5: You know it, Well, it's probably refreshing. You just talk
Speaker 5: about recipes once in a while.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, okay again, yeah right, and that
Speaker 2: feels fair to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay. So let's talk about your girls. How the
Speaker 7: older too, Lola and Sammy Sammy? Right, yeah, how old
Speaker 7: are they and how close an age are they?
Speaker 1: They're fifteen months apart and Sammy just turned twenty one
Speaker 1: and Lola's nineteen.
Speaker 6: She'll be twenty in May. I'm sorry. June always is May,
Speaker 6: gotcha May and June.
Speaker 7: So obviously on the show, a lot of it shows
Speaker 7: the disagreements between those two and what they've been going through.
Speaker 7: So how as a mom a do you step in
Speaker 7: and try and help them through that? And I know
Speaker 7: it kind of shows in the show you kind of
Speaker 7: facilitating a little bit, But do you actually step in
Speaker 7: or do you just kind of let them just doke
Speaker 7: it out on their own?
Speaker 1: When that's like little bickering back and forth. I just
Speaker 1: have to like because they'll like have like silly sisterly
Speaker 1: bickering and then they'll go shopping together or to the beach.
Speaker 6: Or something and they get over it.
Speaker 1: But when before we were doing the show, it had
Speaker 1: been this was the longest like fight they had been in.
Speaker 6: It was probably six months.
Speaker 1: That was so hard for me as a mom, and
Speaker 1: I would I did step in and I would try,
Speaker 1: and you know, they would just tell me to stay
Speaker 1: at it. But as time was going on, it was
Speaker 1: hard for me to see.
Speaker 6: You know, I thought, wow, this is this is a
Speaker 6: bad one.
Speaker 1: But they're in a much better place now, and I
Speaker 1: you know, I'm my sister and I are eighteen months apart.
Speaker 6: So I told them, you guys are going to have quite.
Speaker 1: A few of these and then as you get older,
Speaker 1: you guys will be really good friends and you may
Speaker 1: have disagreements along the way, but you'll find the way back.
Speaker 7: I love how the show showed there what seemed to
Speaker 7: be very different personalities. Yes, I mean, they couldn't seem
Speaker 7: more different. And I love how the show really showed
Speaker 7: that and showed like the heart of both of those girls.
Speaker 7: And I don't feel like it showed one side or
Speaker 7: the other as right or wrong, just really kind of
Speaker 7: dove into the feelings they were both having around a situation.
Speaker 7: I thought that was really I think that was handled
Speaker 7: really well.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much. They they've been different from the
Speaker 6: day they were.
Speaker 3: Born, That's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 7: I was like, because it just seems like like I
Speaker 7: have two daughters, but they're like five years apart, So
Speaker 7: I don't you know, they don't really have those kinds
Speaker 7: of arguments, you know. I mean it's little stuff, but like,
Speaker 7: none of my kids have such different personalities like that,
Speaker 7: Like I find that very fascinating. They just seem like
Speaker 7: just so polar opposites.
Speaker 6: All they really are. My sister and I are polar opposites.
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, no, they're very different, but they're also I
Speaker 1: told them, you guys have a lot of similarities, more
Speaker 1: than you think.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: They're both very compassionate, they're both very loyal. They're real
Speaker 1: good girls. They can laugh a lot and joke around
Speaker 1: about things. They share a lot of the same friends,
Speaker 1: so they are more similar than they than they think
Speaker 1: they are. And you know, I love watching them have
Speaker 1: fun together because they are so different and they look
Speaker 1: very different from each other too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it has it been a little like even know
Speaker 5: if the word vindicating is even applicable here, because I
Speaker 5: feel like you've had such a great housewife experience.
Speaker 2: But has it been fun and.
Speaker 5: Maybe more authentic feeling to be in the driver's seat
Speaker 5: when you're doing the show with your girls instead of
Speaker 5: it being about this you know, cast of a million
Speaker 5: other personalities, like you're dealing with your own, you know,
Speaker 5: God made.
Speaker 2: Little cast of character. Has that been fun and interesting?
Speaker 6: It's it was, you know.
Speaker 1: So Alex Baskin approached me to do the family show.
Speaker 1: That's who he does the Housewives too, and and you know,
Speaker 1: and I asked the girls that they wanted to. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure everyone was obviously on board and
Speaker 1: really invested in it because it's a big commitment and
Speaker 1: so it The challenging part for this was also I'm
Speaker 1: an executive producer, so I'm mom and I'm a producer
Speaker 1: on it, and they at times were that was a
Speaker 1: hard thing for them with you know, I am one that,
Speaker 1: like unscripted, you can't be late to work. You you know,
Speaker 1: time is money and it cost people money to you
Speaker 1: have to show up when you're sick.
Speaker 6: No one's there to replace me.
Speaker 1: So I've had to be on set not feeling well
Speaker 1: and sick or have a bad day.
Speaker 6: I still go to work.
Speaker 1: And I remember filing for divorce from their dad, driving
Speaker 1: to UH. I was six months pregnant and going to
Speaker 1: a table reading. Didn't tell anyone at the table reading
Speaker 1: and just thought, well, the ship will hit the fan
Speaker 1: when it does, and I'll just have to keep voice.
Speaker 6: But my girls are like, Mom, that's.
Speaker 1: You, because that was There were some times where they
Speaker 1: didn't feel like filming that day and I'm like, too bad,
Speaker 1: you have to show up, and they really like, well,
Speaker 1: I just want my mom. I don't want, you know,
Speaker 1: my producer mom or my boss, And I said, as
Speaker 1: your mom, I would tell you.
Speaker 6: My mom would have told me get your butt to work.
Speaker 6: You know, That's how I was raised.
Speaker 1: So I think that was the challenge for me with
Speaker 1: the show, and for the girls too, is that they
Speaker 1: kind of wanted it both ways. They wanted mom when it,
Speaker 1: but then they also wanted the producer mom, like can
Speaker 1: you switch the schedule for this or do that? And
Speaker 1: you know, but I understand that that's natural and normal.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I get it, but uh and
Speaker 1: at times I thought, Wow, it's easier fighting with all
Speaker 1: those women at the.
Speaker 6: And then arguing with my daughters.
Speaker 3: These chicks.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I like, next season we could casts new kids.
Speaker 3: You're off the show.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about only fans for a second, because
Speaker 2: I remember hearing about how much y'all made on OnlyFans
Speaker 2: and I was like, let me see, yeah, because I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, I provide for my whole family, and I
Speaker 2: pay an ex husband child support, and so I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, always trying to find ways of making money,
Speaker 2: but I can. I couldn't sign on obviously, because you
Speaker 2: have to sign up for it, and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't want to sign up because then it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know what it really is.
Speaker 6: So I didn't either when I heard about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so how what was your like, Yes, I'm doing this,
Speaker 2: I know your your daughter was signed up before you did.
Speaker 6: Is that she signed up for?
Speaker 1: So she told me she was gonna sign up for it.
Speaker 1: I did not know what it was, and like you,
Speaker 1: I tried to go on. I'm like, what the hell
Speaker 1: is this thing?
Speaker 6: You know? I would have.
Speaker 1: To join it, and then I obviously googled about it,
Speaker 1: and so I asked her.
Speaker 6: I said to her, I said, look.
Speaker 1: I will support whatever you do in life, but I
Speaker 1: want you to really think twice about doing this. And
Speaker 1: you know, you're so young, you're starting out your career.
Speaker 1: There is a certain perception that will go with this,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just want you to make sure
Speaker 1: that this is something you want to do. And she
Speaker 1: told me, she said, Mom, I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: topless or anything like that. I just want to do, like,
Speaker 1: you know, sexier stuff. But so I supported her decision,
Speaker 1: and then she did get a lot of backlash, and
Speaker 1: as her mom and then also as a woman in
Speaker 1: this business who's been perceived, as you know earlier in
Speaker 1: my career, is a sex symbol and doing you know,
Speaker 1: I did Playboy and after a Wild Things.
Speaker 6: You guys saw the movie, so you can imagine.
Speaker 1: People saying stuff to me or coming up to me
Speaker 1: or thinking I'm that character. And I kind of just
Speaker 1: was like, you know, this is not right. And so
Speaker 1: I posted something on my on Instagram and I just
Speaker 1: made a comment like, you know, maybe I should, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll do this, and I was joking around and then
Speaker 1: the comments were like you should, and then I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, I am going to sign up for this.
Speaker 1: I can control all the There were conversations I did
Speaker 1: have with the only fans the company.
Speaker 6: I talked to them. They actually reached out to me
Speaker 6: after they saw my post.
Speaker 1: And it's also empowering because you own all your content.
Speaker 6: You control what you put out.
Speaker 1: There, and it's something and yes, you make money on
Speaker 1: it too. It's so it's something that i've you know,
Speaker 1: I know, people have mixed opinions about it towards me.
Speaker 1: They think it's probably you know what.
Speaker 6: It's kind of.
Speaker 1: Weird because my daughter I never saw her page. She
Speaker 1: doesn't never saw mine either, but that's mainly I was more.
Speaker 1: It was more about being pissed off that she's did
Speaker 1: get the backlash that I thought she probably would have gotten.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost one of those things, like
Speaker 2: you all know when they promote those vibrators. I obviously
Speaker 2: probably won't do it again, but when I have in
Speaker 2: the past, it's more of like a female empowerment, like Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna love myself and this is it's okay to
Speaker 2: have self love. And if you want to post photos
Speaker 2: and you feel beautiful whatever and get paid, sure, sign
Speaker 2: me up.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I just can't imagine being the only fans person that
Speaker 5: knows they landed Denise Richards. I mean, that person is
Speaker 5: probably like, this is the score of a lifetime. I mean,
Speaker 5: imagine how they feel when they get the call from
Speaker 5: you and they're like, are you I mean you would?
Speaker 2: I mean this person is like VP of the company.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with as a woman being sexy, even
Speaker 1: if you're a mom.
Speaker 6: And that's why I did Playboy. I did Playboy when
Speaker 6: Sammy was five months old.
Speaker 1: Because I thought it's okay, you don't have to, you know,
Speaker 1: diminish your sexuality. Once you become a parent, and even
Speaker 1: as you get older. You know, I'm older, I'm not
Speaker 1: obviously twenty years old, and I'm it's empowering for me
Speaker 1: to also still own my sexuality and be sexy if
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an interesting piece because I had
Speaker 2: gotten a I got a lot of hate when I
Speaker 2: got my boobs done, or like, you're just flawning your boobs.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I felt sexy and I liked it.
Speaker 2: I was single and I just was recently divorced and
Speaker 2: I wanted to feel that way and it made me
Speaker 2: feel good. And then but now I recently got a
Speaker 2: DM being like, oh, you've been covering up more. It's
Speaker 2: so nice to see, and it's like, but I'm also like,
Speaker 2: who cares if I do want to show it sometimes?
Speaker 2: Or I'm a woman and if I want to, why
Speaker 2: can't another woman just say to another woman you look
Speaker 2: beautiful and not just be like you're a slut because
Speaker 2: you're showing your boobs.
Speaker 6: Most of those people are jealous.
Speaker 2: I'd agree, Yeah, I'd agree.
Speaker 7: And I think it's also important to remember everyone's comfort
Speaker 7: levels are different, Like I might not be comfortable showing
Speaker 7: my boobs and you may, but I can be like
Speaker 7: more power to you, you know, and like that's where
Speaker 7: people are missing. Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't
Speaker 7: mean that it's wrong and I think or that it does.
Speaker 7: It doesn't work for you, fine, but it works for you.
Speaker 4: Am I that?
Speaker 2: Or we're bad bombs because we're showing our boobies or yeah.
Speaker 5: I've been going through old photos right now, and I
Speaker 5: have to tell you, Denise, if I look like you,
Speaker 5: I'd be doing the zoom naked.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I mean, you've just always been stunning,
Speaker 5: and you've been this.
Speaker 2: You have been the freedom.
Speaker 5: Like the reason why things mattered in a lot of
Speaker 5: ways was even beyond like the actual scene to scene.
Speaker 2: It was just more that it was like, Yeah, the
Speaker 2: first time I saw women actually owning sexuality in that
Speaker 2: age when we were in high school. I think that's
Speaker 2: why it was pivotal in that moment, Souse, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: are we allowed to be sexy like that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? So there was you know, scenes with two girls
Speaker 6: in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'd never seen before.
Speaker 1: Now was something that wasn't you know, I can't remember
Speaker 1: like which movies have had that in there, and I
Speaker 1: think it was, you know, around that time, was one
Speaker 1: of the first so and it was showing that it's
Speaker 1: okay to explore your sexuality, it's okay to.
Speaker 6: To own it too.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting when you said that after your divorce,
Speaker 1: because I think before my divorce and before I got
Speaker 1: all this you know crap and the tabloids, I was
Speaker 1: always such a people pleaser and wanted to do everything
Speaker 1: right and wanted to say the right things and be
Speaker 1: careful what I said in interviews, and going through all
Speaker 1: that shit actually was such a blessing because.
Speaker 6: It made me just think, I am going to be me.
Speaker 1: People have said so much stuff about me, a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff not true, some stuff true, and I might
Speaker 1: as well just own who I am and not care
Speaker 1: what people think about me. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: something that came from my divorce part of it, because
Speaker 1: I went through so much stuff and the damnloids.
Speaker 2: To wrap up, what would you think is what is
Speaker 2: one of the untrue things that people should know about you?
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I've had so many.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't I can't even think of just one.
Speaker 2: Let me think were the most, like miss understood you know,
Speaker 2: clear clear something up that you're like, you know what
Speaker 2: this is? Or just watch the show and then they'll know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, watch the show.
Speaker 1: Unless there's something you want to ask me and I
Speaker 1: can say if it's true or not.
Speaker 2: I don't follow.
Speaker 6: I really don't, you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't regret it. I am so grateful for Charlie.
Speaker 1: He gave me two beautiful girls. Without him, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have them.
Speaker 2: That's right, exactly. Well, Denise, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: coming on the show. Thank you amazing and.
Speaker 6: You all are a lot of us.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You hang out with us anytime you Inshville.
Speaker 2: Let us know. Yeah, if you are in Nashville, come
Speaker 2: hang out.
Speaker 6: I thought about moving there. Actually, oh well, let's.
Speaker 3: Go join everybody there you go.
Speaker 5: Bands, Denise, Oh god, thanks Denise, thank you.
Speaker 6: Bye.