WEBVTT - OnlyWhine with Denise Richards

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Our super special bonus guests this week is none other

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<v Speaker 2>than Denise Richards. And I mean, guys, do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>watching Wild Things growing up? Denise Richards is iconic, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in our Yes group our age.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really remember really.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I was all in which like crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>this is so I auditioned for like wild Things. It

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like four at this point. It was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my very first auditions. It's actually quite funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but not to like look this, but I just had to,

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<v Speaker 2>like because I would never talk about this any other place.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was so excited because like wild Things was

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<v Speaker 2>such a big movie in our era and high school,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was the it was like wild Things

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<v Speaker 2>four or something crazy like that. And I remember my

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<v Speaker 2>agent at times she was like it calls for showing

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<v Speaker 2>your boobs, and so I was like, okay, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it, like I'm totally doing it, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want you to think about this, like I

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<v Speaker 2>got casted in it, like it was a full on

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<v Speaker 2>cast I got. I did the audition, hired and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's frontal boobs. It was just that point.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like a flash of boobs and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it, and she goes, I need

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<v Speaker 2>you to remember that this will be and this was

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day. I mean, this was before give

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<v Speaker 2>us a year. Okay, when was I on Friday night

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<v Speaker 2>Lights that would have been. This was I mean before

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<v Speaker 2>One Tree Hill, so I mean before social media. But

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<v Speaker 2>still she's like, this will be on the internet. The

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<v Speaker 2>internet was obviously around, so she's like, this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that will be on the internet and you won't be

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<v Speaker 2>able to erase this. I'm like, I know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>need the money. And it's like I'd just done Gray's Anatomy,

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<v Speaker 2>just little roles here, and I would be like red

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<v Speaker 2>in the bank account, you know, just fighting my way

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<v Speaker 2>to try to like get to a zero balance on

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<v Speaker 2>my on my card or my bank statement. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I want to do it. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I'm like I'm going to do it, like

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<v Speaker 2>accept it, say yes for me, and she was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really just need you to take a night to

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, and so she just kept telling me

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<v Speaker 2>to say no. So I ended up turning down the

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<v Speaker 2>roll in A day later, I booked Frida night Lights

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, I told.

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<v Speaker 4>You, and I was like, oh my god. I almost

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<v Speaker 4>totally went titty lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I must just show my ted sun friggin'

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always thought about that because it would have

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<v Speaker 2>changed a lot, I think for me in general, just

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<v Speaker 2>with everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it is a pivotal moment when an actress

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<v Speaker 5>decides to show parts of her body. I think because

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<v Speaker 5>it especially for Wild Things four or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>It was, you know what I mean. It was like.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was like Swordfish and I'm you know, Holly

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<v Speaker 2>Berry or whatever that movie was. You know, when she's

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<v Speaker 2>showing her it's a little bit different. That's where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>now I would pick where I choose media. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>is a going to move the needle? Is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to be? But I was just so desperate for a

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<v Speaker 2>work and be money, and you're also young. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean so I thought, you know, Wild Things, why not?

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<v Speaker 2>It changed these Richard's career? Why not Wild Things? For

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<v Speaker 2>Why Things again? Show some boobs and there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I too could have an only fans account

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<v Speaker 2>right now? I have fan Could you do only fans?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if it made me money. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>she makes two million dollars a month. You know, people

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<v Speaker 2>like put her or her daughter Denise Richard's okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think her million dollar daughter makes a lot too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, but I'm not Denise Richards. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm pulling it in right.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you could make let's just say, if you

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<v Speaker 2>could make two million dollars a year on only fans,

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<v Speaker 2>would you do it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>It depends what I'm showing, because some people show their

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<v Speaker 5>big toe and bank you know, there's some creeps out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if it's my big toe and these little

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<v Speaker 5>polish fe can be like my way to like financial freedom,

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<v Speaker 5>let's do it right, Yes, bear your soul see what

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<v Speaker 5>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just I mean how because I always think

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<v Speaker 2>there's always a price for everything. People say, yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, there's always price.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but for how much? Would you?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep? And everybody's price is different. One person, you know, Alan,

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<v Speaker 2>if I said eat this piece of cheese, someone would

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<v Speaker 2>eat it for free, you know. Yeah, So I just

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<v Speaker 2>am curious and my question to you while we wait

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<v Speaker 2>for the lovely Denise Richards to come on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you do and how much for I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would say, also the state of these moops if I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have kids and somebody wanted to pay me to

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<v Speaker 5>see them and be like, yeah, girls, it's hard time

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<v Speaker 5>to shine. Just kidding, I have children. I won't show

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<v Speaker 5>any nudity.

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<v Speaker 6>But I have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Question though I've never been on OnlyFans, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what I don't either.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like, what's the difference is it? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>a porn site?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 5>I think you can get scanned list, But then there

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<v Speaker 5>are people that just go kind of specifically for their

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<v Speaker 5>own little fetishes.

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<v Speaker 7>I have no idea, like I just assume it's something

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<v Speaker 7>where people go for just fetishes. Like so, either I've

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<v Speaker 7>only heard of feet, and then I get a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of Wiki feet things like they say, wait, like

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<v Speaker 2>when I post and I don't mean to, but if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like the pool, they're like, oh your feet five

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<v Speaker 2>stars on Wiki feet or whatever, it's Wiki feet. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I guess it's like a I don't who

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<v Speaker 2>knows there's a Wiki feet Maybe not, but that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they say. I'm there, But I'm like, I've thought I've

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<v Speaker 2>often so I was a little curious, so I went on,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't. You have to sign up for her.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to get like a snippet of what

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<v Speaker 2>it was. So I'm like, listen, I'm not against seeing

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe she can tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we can ask her? So she's says,

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<v Speaker 2>you fully watched her show?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're there. Yeah, we can definitely ask her.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do OnlyFans and for how much?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't know how much, but it would it

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<v Speaker 7>would take a lot. A I hate feet, so I

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<v Speaker 7>don't even know that I could do the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, your hands are pretty hot, yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I could do hands.

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<v Speaker 3>You would do hands for a lot?

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<v Speaker 7>Like they just like a little bit of money, so

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<v Speaker 7>different just don't I don't want to know what they're

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<v Speaker 7>doing with just tried it on in their brain.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I think hands would be the only thing because feet

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<v Speaker 7>literally weired me out. Interesting if I hate feet, so no,

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<v Speaker 7>and no, and then I could double again that's a no.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean again, everything has a price, for sure. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what it would take to get me naked baked.

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<v Speaker 4>You we were talking about boots.

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<v Speaker 5>I just said, I wouldn't do it if it was

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<v Speaker 5>just a feet thing. I could read a book to

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<v Speaker 5>someone and that turns them on.

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<v Speaker 4>Made me.

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<v Speaker 2>You said show, I mean they do?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't They do? They do? Because that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she doesn't. I'm pretty sure I mean wild things.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 7>We need to ask, so I can't say that she's

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<v Speaker 7>showing some Yeah, let's.

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<v Speaker 5>Follow Jamna and Holy fans at Kramer. Wild things for God,

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<v Speaker 5>you just create. I just remember a teacher got in

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<v Speaker 5>trouble for only fans. That's the only way I even

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<v Speaker 5>know about it. She was a teacher and she would

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<v Speaker 5>dress a little sexy and she did this only fans.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's how she paid her bills because teaching wasn't lucrative,

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<v Speaker 5>and some a parent found it because a parent that's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop yes, like a dad a dad? Oh no? But

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<v Speaker 2>then how does that conversation got what I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 2>his wife and says, let me jay, And then she said,

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<v Speaker 2>why the hell are you an Holy fan?

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<v Speaker 7>Let me let me clarify. Okay, So I don't sound

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<v Speaker 7>like I don't know what I'm talking about. Don't talking

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<v Speaker 7>about she shares explicit content on her OnlyFans account, including

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<v Speaker 7>bikini and lingerie photos, as well as some topless images.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it, Denise at fifty four? Isn't she fifty four? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I just googled is OnlyFans porn site, and Wikipedia says

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<v Speaker 2>fans is Only Fans is an internet content subscription service

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<v Speaker 2>based in London. Interesting. The service is popular with sex

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<v Speaker 2>workers who produce pornography.

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<v Speaker 3>So back to the naked part.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just wondering if we can edit this down and

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<v Speaker 5>take out the part where I said I would do.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we knew that. That's why I was didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I really just thought it was like because by subscription only,

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<v Speaker 2>content creators can share nude photos of themselves, live stream

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<v Speaker 2>porn pornographic videos, and even virtually interact.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm going to go back. No, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Money, answered cat and hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, so I was misinformed. In my feet are

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<v Speaker 2>going to stay in my sock? What if it was

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<v Speaker 2>just the feet though?

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<v Speaker 3>No, just she's like, let's look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta pay my ex husband somehow. And I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>a little, you know, totally rad mo. Yeah, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna stop reading because it does not sound super safe.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and now your account has been flagged. Yeah, oh game,

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<v Speaker 5>but listen.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of money. Oh yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and I think she's established herself in a field

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<v Speaker 5>where that feels less overwhelming to her. Sure, so she

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<v Speaker 5>might as well share for profit.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I also think, you know, keep in mind, her

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<v Speaker 7>daughter signed up first and started making a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's the daughter twenty something. I need to And

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to ask her the age difference in

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<v Speaker 7>her daughter's because that's an interesting dynamic. But she did

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<v Speaker 7>it first. I think Denise got a lot of pushback

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<v Speaker 7>and the fact that her daughter was on it, but

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<v Speaker 7>then saw how lucrative it was, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I understood it.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, let's take a break and get it on.

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<v Speaker 2>You were born hot. Look at you.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh stop, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just talking about how wild Things was A

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<v Speaker 2>was it was our high school pivotal pivotal movie. We

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<v Speaker 2>loved it.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was. It was good. We loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're amazing, Thank you for coming on. We'll just dive

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<v Speaker 2>right into it. Girls, do you want to go ahead?

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<v Speaker 5>I just always have felt like you're my like hot

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<v Speaker 5>older sister that I always wanted, like you were the

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<v Speaker 5>one brave enough to go before me and just do

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<v Speaker 5>all the things my little heart thought that they could do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well maybe I don't know. There's a little Denise

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<v Speaker 2>Richards and us all, don't you think?

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<v Speaker 6>I think so?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's start with You've lived so much life as an

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<v Speaker 5>actress and as a personality and just in as a celebrity,

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<v Speaker 5>and you've done scripted and you've done reality.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 6>I like both?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you know it's I think, Well, my heart is

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<v Speaker 1>I love acting. I love being on set and the

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration and you know, working with everyone and playing different characters,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I just love being on set, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess I would have to say scripted.

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<v Speaker 6>But I also have enjoyed doing reality too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in a way it's kind of harder, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being yourself and putting yourself out there and being so

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<v Speaker 1>open and vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I done that really well. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>piece that would be the hardest thing, because behind a character,

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<v Speaker 2>you can kind of hide behind a character but you

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<v Speaker 2>are the character exactly reality.

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<v Speaker 5>I would guess that the challenge would be too like

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<v Speaker 5>defining the characters around you because they don't have a script,

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<v Speaker 5>but they are definitely characters when you're on reality, like

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<v Speaker 5>they are such unique personality types.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think though, the best is to just be yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and try to not become a character caricature of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that sometimes it's hard to do. In

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<v Speaker 1>our for our show with my family, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I told my girls was just be you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be you, and you know, because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>people can also see through that if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be something you're not or someone you're not, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you actually enjoy being on the Housewives?

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<v Speaker 6>I did most of it. There was parts of it.

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<v Speaker 6>I did it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, my first season, I really

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<v Speaker 1>loved it and it was so I was so I

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<v Speaker 1>went into it just like this will be fun and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm filming moments with you know, my friends and made

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<v Speaker 1>and made new friends. And then the second sea and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really hard for me to have I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like it gets boring too after you keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this fighting about the same damn thing over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over, and then also feeling like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>group that's coming at you all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was hard for me to navigate because I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't used to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the type that can let stuff roll off my

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<v Speaker 1>back and we move on from it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that some of the women had a hard time with

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<v Speaker 1>that too, that I didn't let certain things bother me

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<v Speaker 1>the way they thought I should. And but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I wanted to be myself on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to, you know, fight if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, that makes sense. Absolutely. So we all have daughters,

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<v Speaker 2>and what is your best advice for raising daughters? But

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<v Speaker 2>then also when you get to the adolescence when you

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<v Speaker 2>are because we're all going to butt heads with our girls,

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<v Speaker 2>So what is some advice you could give us that

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<v Speaker 2>you have seen while raising your daughters.

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<v Speaker 6>You will get through it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is there are some difficult years, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirteen with moms and daughters. Especially most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time it's you know that they do butt heads with

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<v Speaker 1>mom and they're trying to find their own independence. But

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<v Speaker 1>my advice, like what I would always tell my girls

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<v Speaker 1>from the time they were really little, was to just

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<v Speaker 1>always be them. Don't be pressured to do things they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do or say things they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say. And you know, and I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>are strong girls with strong minds. And my dad would

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<v Speaker 1>tell me because sometimes they were a little too strong

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<v Speaker 1>when they.

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<v Speaker 6>Were a little younger. He goes, you'll be thankful when

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<v Speaker 6>they're older that they are so strong. I know it's

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<v Speaker 6>hard now because you know it's coming at you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was a single mo and balancing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't have someone to be the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the bad guy and the good guy, So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think there's a lot of challenges, especially

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<v Speaker 1>to being a single parent.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it's co parenting.

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<v Speaker 5>Was with Charlie a challenge or do you feel like

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<v Speaker 5>an overall great experience if you could go thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 5>feet or you can go ground level if you want to.

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<v Speaker 6>Truthfully, it wasn't co parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you had soul custody for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Right had I parent my way, he parents his way,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no co parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I wish there was, and to this day it's

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<v Speaker 2>still pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Our girls are older, but still, I mean, we're always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be their parents. But yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>really I asked him to go to lunch. I ran

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<v Speaker 1>into him and said, you know, why don't we go

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<v Speaker 1>have lunch and like hang out and talk. I'm friends

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of my exes, but I'm and it's weird.

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<v Speaker 6>I have kids with.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, and I'm not really I'm friendly with Charlie, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we were friends and that we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and be able to be there really

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<v Speaker 1>for each other with our girls. But it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship we have. Maybe one day, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there right now. I mean there's no there's nothing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no discord between he and I, which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I often think about that because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in a co parenting situation. And at first when we

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<v Speaker 2>got divorced, it was like, all right, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>want everyone to get along and we're going to be friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I realized it was like, I actually don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be friends with you from you cheating on

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<v Speaker 2>me a bunch and you know, so I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is it's too soon to be friends, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe down the line there could be a friendship, but

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<v Speaker 2>now it's it's like too fresh, too soon, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really want to be your friend, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always an advocate of wanting everything to be

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<v Speaker 1>great and be friends and blend the family because he

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<v Speaker 1>had two boys with his wife after me, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I because I just I just didn't want the girls

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like they had to choose sides. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him to be there for all the birthday parties

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<v Speaker 1>and holidays, and I always invited him and sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>would come. And I think it's good for the kids

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<v Speaker 1>to see that too. But I also understand where you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming from too that you know, everyone has their their

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>I never talked.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad about him in front of the kids, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do, to hold your tongue and not say

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<v Speaker 1>certain things at times. But and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I did a disservice to them with that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because now that they're older, they're discovering things that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of my questions too, because my husband,

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<v Speaker 2>my ex husband, you know, he very publicly had a

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<v Speaker 2>sex addiction and so one day, our kids are going

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<v Speaker 2>to see that aline everywhere. And yeah, we've also talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it here because again it was all open and public.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you have a conversation with them about things

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<v Speaker 2>that happened before they googled?

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<v Speaker 6>Or No?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not because the girls weren't and they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>ones to google us because they didn't, you know, were

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad and they you know, and obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>know their dad.

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<v Speaker 6>He had a lot of public stuff too, and it

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<v Speaker 6>is it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>There were things that I would tell them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might hear something at school. If you have any questions,

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<v Speaker 1>please come to me, And they weren't.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't even ask, But what what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, okay, you know, So I did have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them because this is where I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>upset with Charlie that he didn't warn me when he

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<v Speaker 1>came out publicly that he had has HIV. He went

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<v Speaker 1>on the Today Show. I knew that he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>eventually because he had to because the tabloids found out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wish he gave me a heads up, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it today.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, because it was everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up picking up as soon as I picked

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<v Speaker 1>up the girls.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I picked them up early from school that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't want kids at school if they heard

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<v Speaker 1>anything on their phones or you know. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation about that, and it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard to explain to them what it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only time I can remember. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a few things that I've had to have

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with, but for the most part, I really tried

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<v Speaker 1>to shelter them from a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have a good mom support group? Like who

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<v Speaker 5>do you go to advice as a mom? Because I

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<v Speaker 5>know it's you know, in these kinds of industries, we're

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<v Speaker 5>all in entertainment in some sort and like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 5>noticed that I stay more guarded recently, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>I can't just maybe spill my heart to a neighbor

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<v Speaker 5>like I used.

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<v Speaker 2>To, you know, And so who do you lean into?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, back when.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going through a lot of stuff with him,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so public, and I actually found myself that

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of guarded because I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking about it because I had to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it with lawyers and my publicist, who she was amazing

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<v Speaker 1>soundboard for me too, but it was my dad. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him a lot because I trusted him.

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<v Speaker 6>I could tell him anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that time too, it was hard because there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many different stories that I found myself just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of isolating myself a lot, which probably wasn't the healthiest,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had to just protect myself. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to always talk about it because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was a lot. I went through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and it, you know, and I always had talked to

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, she was great, and you know, just different friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends that weren't parents I talked to and friends that were.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the most part when it was really really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I wanted to pretend like everything was okay.

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<v Speaker 5>You know it, Well, it's probably refreshing. You just talk

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<v Speaker 5>about recipes once in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, okay again, yeah right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>feels fair to me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay. So let's talk about your girls. How the

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<v Speaker 7>older too, Lola and Sammy Sammy? Right, yeah, how old

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<v Speaker 7>are they and how close an age are they?

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<v Speaker 1>They're fifteen months apart and Sammy just turned twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and Lola's nineteen.

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<v Speaker 6>She'll be twenty in May. I'm sorry. June always is May,

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<v Speaker 6>gotcha May and June.

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<v Speaker 7>So obviously on the show, a lot of it shows

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<v Speaker 7>the disagreements between those two and what they've been going through.

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<v Speaker 7>So how as a mom a do you step in

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<v Speaker 7>and try and help them through that? And I know

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<v Speaker 7>it kind of shows in the show you kind of

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<v Speaker 7>facilitating a little bit, But do you actually step in

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<v Speaker 7>or do you just kind of let them just doke

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<v Speaker 7>it out on their own?

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<v Speaker 1>When that's like little bickering back and forth. I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to like because they'll like have like silly sisterly

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<v Speaker 1>bickering and then they'll go shopping together or to the beach.

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<v Speaker 6>Or something and they get over it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when before we were doing the show, it had

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<v Speaker 1>been this was the longest like fight they had been in.

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<v Speaker 6>It was probably six months.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so hard for me as a mom, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would I did step in and I would try,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they would just tell me to stay

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<v Speaker 1>at it. But as time was going on, it was

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me to see.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I thought, wow, this is this is a

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<v Speaker 6>bad one.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're in a much better place now, and I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm my sister and I are eighteen months apart.

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<v Speaker 6>So I told them, you guys are going to have quite.

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<v Speaker 1>A few of these and then as you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys will be really good friends and you may

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<v Speaker 1>have disagreements along the way, but you'll find the way back.

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<v Speaker 7>I love how the show showed there what seemed to

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 7>be very different personalities. Yes, I mean, they couldn't seem

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 7>more different. And I love how the show really showed

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 7>that and showed like the heart of both of those girls.

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<v Speaker 7>And I don't feel like it showed one side or

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<v Speaker 7>the other as right or wrong, just really kind of

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 7>dove into the feelings they were both having around a situation.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought that was really I think that was handled

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<v Speaker 7>really well.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much. They they've been different from the

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<v Speaker 6>day they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Born, That's what I was going to ask.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, because it just seems like like I

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 7>have two daughters, but they're like five years apart, So

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 7>I don't you know, they don't really have those kinds

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 7>of arguments, you know. I mean it's little stuff, but like,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 7>none of my kids have such different personalities like that,

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<v Speaker 7>Like I find that very fascinating. They just seem like

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<v Speaker 7>just so polar opposites.

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 6>All they really are. My sister and I are polar opposites.

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<v Speaker 1>Really. Yeah, no, they're very different, but they're also I

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<v Speaker 1>told them, you guys have a lot of similarities, more

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<v Speaker 1>than you think.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>They're both very compassionate, they're both very loyal. They're real

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>good girls. They can laugh a lot and joke around

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>about things. They share a lot of the same friends,

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>so they are more similar than they than they think

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they are. And you know, I love watching them have

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>fun together because they are so different and they look

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>very different from each other too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it has it been a little like even know

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<v Speaker 5>if the word vindicating is even applicable here, because I

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 5>feel like you've had such a great housewife experience.

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>But has it been fun and.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe more authentic feeling to be in the driver's seat

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 5>when you're doing the show with your girls instead of

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 5>it being about this you know, cast of a million

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.959
<v Speaker 5>other personalities, like you're dealing with your own, you know,

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 5>God made.

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Little cast of character. Has that been fun and interesting?

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<v Speaker 6>It's it was, you know.

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So Alex Baskin approached me to do the family show.

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>That's who he does the Housewives too, and and you know,

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>and I asked the girls that they wanted to. I

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure everyone was obviously on board and

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>really invested in it because it's a big commitment and

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>so it The challenging part for this was also I'm

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>an executive producer, so I'm mom and I'm a producer

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and they at times were that was a

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>hard thing for them with you know, I am one that,

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<v Speaker 1>like unscripted, you can't be late to work. You you know,

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>time is money and it cost people money to you

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 1>have to show up when you're sick.

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 6>No one's there to replace me.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So I've had to be on set not feeling well

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and sick or have a bad day.

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<v Speaker 6>I still go to work.

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>And I remember filing for divorce from their dad, driving

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<v Speaker 1>to UH. I was six months pregnant and going to

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<v Speaker 1>a table reading. Didn't tell anyone at the table reading

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and just thought, well, the ship will hit the fan

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>when it does, and I'll just have to keep voice.

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 6>But my girls are like, Mom, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>You, because that was There were some times where they

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like filming that day and I'm like, too bad,

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to show up, and they really like, well,

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I just want my mom. I don't want, you know,

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>my producer mom or my boss, And I said, as

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>your mom, I would tell you.

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 6>My mom would have told me get your butt to work.

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 6>You know, That's how I was raised.

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>So I think that was the challenge for me with

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the show, and for the girls too, is that they

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of wanted it both ways. They wanted mom when it,

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>but then they also wanted the producer mom, like can

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>you switch the schedule for this or do that? And

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I understand that that's natural and normal.

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, I get it, but uh and

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>at times I thought, Wow, it's easier fighting with all

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>those women at the.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 6>And then arguing with my daughters.

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 3>These chicks.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I like, next season we could casts new kids.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>You're off the show.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about only fans for a second, because

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember hearing about how much y'all made on OnlyFans

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, let me see, yeah, because I'm like,

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I provide for my whole family, and I

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.239
<v Speaker 2>pay an ex husband child support, and so I'm like,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, always trying to find ways of making money,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>but I can. I couldn't sign on obviously, because you

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>have to sign up for it, and so I was like, oh,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sign up because then it's like,

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't know what it really is.

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 6>So I didn't either when I heard about it.

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so how what was your like, Yes, I'm doing this,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I know your your daughter was signed up before you did.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 6>Is that she signed up for?

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So she told me she was gonna sign up for it.

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I did not know what it was, and like you,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I tried to go on. I'm like, what the hell

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is this thing?

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 6>You know? I would have.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>To join it, and then I obviously googled about it,

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and so I asked her.

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 6>I said to her, I said, look.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I will support whatever you do in life, but I

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>want you to really think twice about doing this. And

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're so young, you're starting out your career.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>There is a certain perception that will go with this,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just want you to make sure

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>that this is something you want to do. And she

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>told me, she said, Mom, I'm not going to do

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>topless or anything like that. I just want to do, like,

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, sexier stuff. But so I supported her decision,

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and then she did get a lot of backlash, and

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>as her mom and then also as a woman in

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>this business who's been perceived, as you know earlier in

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>my career, is a sex symbol and doing you know,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I did Playboy and after a Wild Things.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.959
<v Speaker 6>You guys saw the movie, so you can imagine.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>People saying stuff to me or coming up to me

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>or thinking I'm that character. And I kind of just

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, this is not right. And so

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I posted something on my on Instagram and I just

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>made a comment like, you know, maybe I should, maybe

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll do this, and I was joking around and then

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the comments were like you should, and then I thought,

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I am going to sign up for this.

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I can control all the There were conversations I did

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>have with the only fans the company.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 6>I talked to them. They actually reached out to me

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 6>after they saw my post.

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's also empowering because you own all your content.

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 6>You control what you put out.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>There, and it's something and yes, you make money on

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it too. It's so it's something that i've you know,

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, people have mixed opinions about it towards me.

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.479
<v Speaker 1>They think it's probably you know what.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 6>It's kind of.

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Weird because my daughter I never saw her page. She

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't never saw mine either, but that's mainly I was more.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>It was more about being pissed off that she's did

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>get the backlash that I thought she probably would have gotten.

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's almost one of those things, like

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you all know when they promote those vibrators. I obviously

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>probably won't do it again, but when I have in

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>the past, it's more of like a female empowerment, like Okay,

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna love myself and this is it's okay to

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>have self love. And if you want to post photos

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>and you feel beautiful whatever and get paid, sure, sign

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>me up.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 5>I just can't imagine being the only fans person that

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 5>knows they landed Denise Richards. I mean, that person is

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 5>probably like, this is the score of a lifetime. I mean,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 5>imagine how they feel when they get the call from

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 5>you and they're like, are you I mean you would?

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean this person is like VP of the company.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with as a woman being sexy, even

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're a mom.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 6>And that's why I did Playboy. I did Playboy when

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Sammy was five months old.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Because I thought it's okay, you don't have to, you know,

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>diminish your sexuality. Once you become a parent, and even

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.239
<v Speaker 1>as you get older. You know, I'm older, I'm not

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously twenty years old, and I'm it's empowering for me

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to also still own my sexuality and be sexy if

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's an interesting piece because I had

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>gotten a I got a lot of hate when I

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>got my boobs done, or like, you're just flawning your boobs.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I felt sexy and I liked it.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I was single and I just was recently divorced and

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to feel that way and it made me

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>feel good. And then but now I recently got a

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>DM being like, oh, you've been covering up more. It's

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.479
<v Speaker 2>so nice to see, and it's like, but I'm also like,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>who cares if I do want to show it sometimes?

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Or I'm a woman and if I want to, why

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 2>can't another woman just say to another woman you look

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>beautiful and not just be like you're a slut because

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:29.479
<v Speaker 2>you're showing your boobs.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 6>Most of those people are jealous.

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I'd agree, Yeah, I'd agree.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 7>And I think it's also important to remember everyone's comfort

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 7>levels are different, Like I might not be comfortable showing

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 7>my boobs and you may, but I can be like

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 7>more power to you, you know, and like that's where

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 7>people are missing. Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 7>mean that it's wrong and I think or that it does.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 7>It doesn't work for you, fine, but it works for you.

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Am I that?

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Or we're bad bombs because we're showing our boobies or yeah.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 5>I've been going through old photos right now, and I

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 5>have to tell you, Denise, if I look like you,

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 5>I'd be doing the zoom naked.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Please.

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, honestly, I mean, you've just always been stunning,

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 5>and you've been this.

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>You have been the freedom.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Like the reason why things mattered in a lot of

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 5>ways was even beyond like the actual scene to scene.

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>It was just more that it was like, Yeah, the

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>first time I saw women actually owning sexuality in that

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>age when we were in high school. I think that's

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>why it was pivotal in that moment, Souse, I'm like, oh,

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>are we allowed to be sexy like that?

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? So there was you know, scenes with two girls

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 6>in it.

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I'd never seen before.

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Now was something that wasn't you know, I can't remember

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like which movies have had that in there, and I

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>think it was, you know, around that time, was one

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>of the first so and it was showing that it's

0:33:51.280 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 1>okay to explore your sexuality, it's okay to.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 6>To own it too.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting when you said that after your divorce,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>because I think before my divorce and before I got

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>all this you know crap and the tabloids, I was

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>always such a people pleaser and wanted to do everything

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>right and wanted to say the right things and be

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>careful what I said in interviews, and going through all

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<v Speaker 1>that shit actually was such a blessing because.

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<v Speaker 6>It made me just think, I am going to be me.

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<v Speaker 1>People have said so much stuff about me, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff not true, some stuff true, and I might

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<v Speaker 1>as well just own who I am and not care

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<v Speaker 1>what people think about me. And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that came from my divorce part of it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I went through so much stuff and the damnloids.

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<v Speaker 2>To wrap up, what would you think is what is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the untrue things that people should know about you?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, I've had so many.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't I can't even think of just one.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me think were the most, like miss understood you know,

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<v Speaker 2>clear clear something up that you're like, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>this is? Or just watch the show and then they'll know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, watch the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless there's something you want to ask me and I

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<v Speaker 1>can say if it's true or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't follow.

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<v Speaker 6>I really don't, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't regret it. I am so grateful for Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave me two beautiful girls. Without him, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, exactly. Well, Denise, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on the show. Thank you amazing and.

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<v Speaker 6>You all are a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. You hang out with us anytime you Inshville.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know. Yeah, if you are in Nashville, come

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<v Speaker 2>hang out.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought about moving there. Actually, oh well, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Go join everybody there you go.

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<v Speaker 5>Bands, Denise, Oh god, thanks Denise, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Bye.