1 00:00:30,279 --> 00:00:31,239 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. 2 00:00:31,319 --> 00:00:33,678 Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in 3 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,399 Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches 4 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history. 5 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 6 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: Mike Rainbow. 7 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 8 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 9 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer. 10 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 11 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,119 Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 12 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,999 Speaker 5: Good to be home, Good to see you, guys. 13 00:00:55,759 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 14 00:01:01,959 --> 00:01:06,719 Speaker 1: Last year guys, just how you're feeling and. 15 00:01:06,919 --> 00:01:09,598 Speaker 2: Kind of what's your approach to this final year? 16 00:01:09,839 --> 00:01:11,519 Speaker 5: Man, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good, you know, I think, 17 00:01:11,598 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 5: you know. 18 00:01:11,759 --> 00:01:14,159 Speaker 4: Excited to get out here at practice, one more opportunity, 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,518 Speaker 4: Happy New year to y'all and getting no chance to 20 00:01:17,639 --> 00:01:19,598 Speaker 4: you know opponent, we know we played them over. 21 00:01:19,479 --> 00:01:20,238 Speaker 5: Here just recently. 22 00:01:20,279 --> 00:01:22,439 Speaker 4: And the chances you know, one last team, you know, 23 00:01:22,479 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: one the last time with this team, this team party, well, 24 00:01:25,359 --> 00:01:26,879 Speaker 4: you know we'll never be together the same team and 25 00:01:26,919 --> 00:01:28,918 Speaker 4: the same guys and the same. 26 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 5: Squad going out there one more time at home. 27 00:01:30,158 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 4: So looking forward to getting another chances these guys, and 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: look forward to you'll get a chance of prob a good, 29 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:35,159 Speaker 4: good opponent. 30 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: Would you understand if you didn't play the whole game 31 00:01:37,438 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: or you know kind of have you talked to it 32 00:01:39,039 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: all about that yet? 33 00:01:40,119 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? 34 00:01:40,479 --> 00:01:42,239 Speaker 4: You know, I'm you're preparing like I'm the starter. You 35 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:44,239 Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna be the starter. So I'm looking 36 00:01:44,279 --> 00:01:46,999 Speaker 4: forward to, you know, being out there, and I think 37 00:01:47,039 --> 00:01:49,319 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go out there and win and compete, 38 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 4: and in a close game, you'll want to be out there. 39 00:01:51,639 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 4: And you get experiences in these close games that you 40 00:01:53,559 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 4: know can't replicate in practice. You can't get those reps 41 00:01:55,559 --> 00:01:58,479 Speaker 4: anywhere else. So look forward to, like I said, get 42 00:01:58,479 --> 00:02:00,359 Speaker 4: one more chance these guys. And in off from a good. 43 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:03,959 Speaker 1: Note, Drake Drew, I said, basically, if you're healthy, you'll 44 00:02:03,999 --> 00:02:05,879 Speaker 1: you'll play. Do you have any reason based on how 45 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:07,879 Speaker 1: you feel that you think you wouldn't play? 46 00:02:08,399 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 5: Great? Yeah, I woke up to him. Good you'll, thank 47 00:02:10,559 --> 00:02:11,039 Speaker 5: the good Lord. 48 00:02:11,079 --> 00:02:13,558 Speaker 4: And there's another day to get out here, and looking 49 00:02:13,559 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 4: forwar to getting out there Sunday when you. 50 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:18,279 Speaker 1: Met with a v P and coach mcadew McCartney this morning, 51 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:20,798 Speaker 1: if they indicate any division of snaps in your your. 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,759 Speaker 5: Meetings this month, Uh, yeah, I know. 53 00:02:22,799 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: We just watched the Bills and we watched you know, 54 00:02:24,918 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 4: we watched the Bills tape and went over the base 55 00:02:27,478 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 4: down game plan. So we're really much you know, talk 56 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,439 Speaker 4: on that. So I'm like I said, I'm going out 57 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 4: there and I'm healthy to play and we'll get in 58 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:37,719 Speaker 4: place us pos about one game, like your. 59 00:02:37,679 --> 00:02:39,999 Speaker 2: Rookie season, is there anything in particular you're looking to 60 00:02:39,999 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: show through, you. 61 00:02:41,038 --> 00:02:41,638 Speaker 1: Know, work on it. 62 00:02:41,839 --> 00:02:42,918 Speaker 3: You know it's one last game. 63 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 5: You know what do you look through college? 64 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:46,078 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always you know, it's always a game another 65 00:02:46,119 --> 00:02:49,159 Speaker 4: game to you know, work better and situations, work better 66 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:51,159 Speaker 4: on third downs, work better in protections on third downs, 67 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 4: work better, and base downs you know, run checks work 68 00:02:53,279 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 4: better and gets cover zero. The Bills bring some of 69 00:02:55,799 --> 00:02:58,199 Speaker 4: that against, you know, working against different zones, you know, 70 00:02:58,199 --> 00:03:00,638 Speaker 4: working with our guys. Hopefully some of these same guys 71 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,918 Speaker 4: are gonna be out out here next year. So working 72 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 4: with guys, getting game reps, you know, getting reps against 73 00:03:05,679 --> 00:03:07,479 Speaker 4: you know, one on one coverage and little things like that. 74 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,199 Speaker 4: You always got a chance to go out there and 75 00:03:09,239 --> 00:03:12,159 Speaker 4: improve for next season and going into the off seasons, 76 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:13,879 Speaker 4: so looking forward a chance to get these guys some 77 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 4: opportunities and you know, watch makes some plays. 78 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:19,159 Speaker 5: You got you got. 79 00:03:20,079 --> 00:03:23,599 Speaker 6: Where do you feel like you've improved the most over 80 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,599 Speaker 6: the course of the year. 81 00:03:25,679 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 5: I think that's tough. I think that's a tough question. 82 00:03:27,959 --> 00:03:29,439 Speaker 5: I think it's hard to gauge myself. 83 00:03:29,839 --> 00:03:31,559 Speaker 4: I think think I'm just trying to, you know, tack 84 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 4: each every day, you know, try to you know, improve 85 00:03:33,999 --> 00:03:36,719 Speaker 4: little things here and things throughout throughout games, try to 86 00:03:37,559 --> 00:03:38,799 Speaker 4: still protect the football better. 87 00:03:38,959 --> 00:03:40,959 Speaker 5: I think I need something I need to improve on. 88 00:03:40,999 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 4: Whatever improve on, I think just playing the roles quarterback, 89 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:45,919 Speaker 4: being the quarterback in Nash Bull leave of learning a 90 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:47,399 Speaker 4: lot from Jacoby. He has been a huge help of 91 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:49,199 Speaker 4: studying the call sheet and studying how to prepare and 92 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:50,559 Speaker 4: how to handle guys in the locker room, and how 93 00:03:50,559 --> 00:03:52,559 Speaker 4: to handle a huddle, and how to have a kind 94 00:03:52,559 --> 00:03:54,879 Speaker 4: of voice and command, you know when even when I'm 95 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:56,719 Speaker 4: up here in the media and it don't sound you know, 96 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:58,959 Speaker 4: timid or shy. I think I've kind of grow into 97 00:03:58,999 --> 00:04:00,439 Speaker 4: that and that's been my personality, but I think it 98 00:04:00,519 --> 00:04:02,279 Speaker 4: kind of took a while for it to come out. 99 00:04:02,999 --> 00:04:03,639 Speaker 3: Can you believe? 100 00:04:03,799 --> 00:04:05,159 Speaker 1: Can you believe that it's week eighteen? 101 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:07,799 Speaker 3: Just what was it like finally being in the spot 102 00:04:07,839 --> 00:04:08,519 Speaker 3: of weekends? See? 103 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:10,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was telling them it flies by effect. 104 00:04:10,559 --> 00:04:12,599 Speaker 4: We're just sitting there in the quarterback room and going 105 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:15,279 Speaker 4: over some of the base plans and before training camp 106 00:04:15,279 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 4: and we've been brought up rookie minicamp today or threw 107 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 4: a a flat and one player with a Sneyding designed 108 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:23,878 Speaker 4: to throw a flat. And how far we've come. So 109 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 4: it's been it's been awesome. I think there's a lot 110 00:04:26,239 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: of learning experiences. Obviously been frustrating season. It's been tough 111 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: season want to learn from. But I'm excited. I can 112 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,758 Speaker 4: kind of see where it's going, and I'm excited to, 113 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 4: you know, for these guys. Again, like I said, one 114 00:04:35,719 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 4: mass chance to get out there and play on Sunday. 115 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:40,118 Speaker 5: Quite a trick. 116 00:04:40,359 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 3: Obviously you want quite as productive or efficient on Saturday. 117 00:04:43,318 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 5: What do you think it was affecting your name? 118 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:48,118 Speaker 4: I think, like I said, I really did give it 119 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 4: in the rhythm. I think, you know, getting in the rhythm. 120 00:04:50,159 --> 00:04:53,319 Speaker 4: I think that's part of you know, easy completions, finance completions. 121 00:04:53,438 --> 00:04:55,999 Speaker 4: It's partly on me and I think just offense will 122 00:04:55,999 --> 00:04:58,639 Speaker 4: we didn't execute. We didn't execute. They were a good defense, 123 00:04:58,719 --> 00:05:00,758 Speaker 4: obviously their top defense of the league for a reason. They 124 00:05:00,799 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 4: had good players. And I think we just in next 125 00:05:03,078 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 4: cue we have we have a chance to remove the 126 00:05:04,399 --> 00:05:06,878 Speaker 4: ball on some and had a chance to make some plays. 127 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:08,998 Speaker 4: I think just in the next cute and you know 128 00:05:09,078 --> 00:05:11,998 Speaker 4: my ballplayce could be better and against the lads that 129 00:05:12,039 --> 00:05:13,759 Speaker 4: can be better, and little things in that areas. 130 00:05:14,359 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 6: One of the things about the rost of a player 131 00:05:17,438 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 6: is avoiding the same mistake twice. Do you feel you've 132 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,038 Speaker 6: done that or are their mistakes that you've made a 133 00:05:23,039 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 6: couple of times that you just like hit yourself in 134 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 6: the head and say why. 135 00:05:26,599 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 5: Did I do that? 136 00:05:27,999 --> 00:05:30,078 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to say that I haven't made this 137 00:05:30,159 --> 00:05:32,439 Speaker 4: a mistake twice, But I think there's definitely times where 138 00:05:32,438 --> 00:05:34,959 Speaker 4: if you can bring up the clip and you'll hold 139 00:05:34,958 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 4: the clicker the last time and say, hey, this is 140 00:05:36,558 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: the same thing you know twice in Rollestop, I definitely 141 00:05:38,919 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 4: thought I improved in you know, certain areas and try 142 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,278 Speaker 4: not take sacks and trying to get in the field 143 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: goal range, and you'll trying to peck peck the ball 144 00:05:45,958 --> 00:05:48,158 Speaker 4: and not tind of throwing in the you know, you know, 145 00:05:48,198 --> 00:05:50,438 Speaker 4: tight coverage or in David coverage. But at the same time, 146 00:05:50,599 --> 00:05:52,319 Speaker 4: there's always ways you know, look back and you know, 147 00:05:52,318 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: I think you watch film after season and watch all 148 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:57,158 Speaker 4: my sacks or watching my all minor receptions and can see, hey, 149 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,399 Speaker 4: you know with this look or this scenario, just sometimes 150 00:06:00,438 --> 00:06:02,318 Speaker 4: throwing it away or or throwing it out of bounds 151 00:06:02,359 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: and or throwing a checkdown could be better. 152 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,319 Speaker 1: When you look over. 153 00:06:06,239 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 3: Your rookie season and working with Alix and help, what 154 00:06:08,719 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: do you think is the day is lesson you take it. 155 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 6: From him directly as somebody who seems he developed support 156 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,998 Speaker 6: back the team. 157 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:17,598 Speaker 5: That's a that's a great question. 158 00:06:17,678 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 4: I think you know what some of the AVP does 159 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 4: every day is he brings it every day. I think 160 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:23,319 Speaker 4: that's that's part of something in the quarterback. You gotta 161 00:06:23,318 --> 00:06:24,878 Speaker 4: bring it every day. You know, it doesn't it doesn't matter. 162 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 4: This is you know, the quarterback of the team. You 163 00:06:26,719 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: know these guys look to you and it's you know, 164 00:06:29,359 --> 00:06:31,678 Speaker 4: it's within the tie of bringing it every day and 165 00:06:32,039 --> 00:06:35,079 Speaker 4: bring juice, and even when you're three and fourteen, three 166 00:06:35,078 --> 00:06:36,879 Speaker 4: and thirteen, you know you're you're bringing it every day 167 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 4: and still approaching it the same way. I think Abp's 168 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,078 Speaker 4: done a great job of, you know, tell me out 169 00:06:41,078 --> 00:06:42,879 Speaker 4: throughout the games as well, Hey you just down interceptions. 170 00:06:42,919 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 4: Hey you're still you know, the same guy, still go 171 00:06:44,678 --> 00:06:46,118 Speaker 4: out there and rip it. He's done a great job 172 00:06:46,159 --> 00:06:49,079 Speaker 4: of kind of putting confidence in me and kind of 173 00:06:49,119 --> 00:06:51,199 Speaker 4: instilling that and realizing that you gotta play the confidence 174 00:06:51,239 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 4: in this league to play quarterback. 175 00:06:55,678 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: Because I feel like defense are starting to anticipate you 176 00:06:57,919 --> 00:06:59,518 Speaker 3: rolling out a little bit more, and is it neary 177 00:06:59,558 --> 00:07:01,358 Speaker 3: emphasis at all for you to stay in the pocket, 178 00:07:01,359 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 3: and you just kind of really trying to play a 179 00:07:02,799 --> 00:07:03,838 Speaker 3: lot of the defense. 180 00:07:03,558 --> 00:07:06,998 Speaker 4: Defensive Other than the first one, I think that first 181 00:07:06,999 --> 00:07:08,959 Speaker 4: throw down, I may have left early, but you know, really, 182 00:07:08,958 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 4: other than that, I think stunts, you know, I think 183 00:07:10,679 --> 00:07:13,079 Speaker 4: the guy would have came free regardless, So I think 184 00:07:13,119 --> 00:07:14,319 Speaker 4: stay in the pocket. I mean, I'm trying to be 185 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:16,959 Speaker 4: a pocket passer. At the same time, I think there's 186 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:18,839 Speaker 4: time for scrambled plays. So no, I wouldn't say it 187 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:25,639 Speaker 4: necessarily you're leaving earlier like a very hot high Tennessee 188 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:28,398 Speaker 4: or high number of times. So I definitely think that's 189 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 4: a area I try to stay, you know, because. 190 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:36,599 Speaker 5: Uh try to stay. What's the word. 191 00:07:37,119 --> 00:07:38,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, discipline is not what I was looking for, but yeah, 192 00:07:38,799 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 4: but disciplined to to not kind of get out of 193 00:07:40,559 --> 00:07:42,278 Speaker 4: there and they're kind of hunting the rush up for 194 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 4: me to scramble, So trying to stay in the pocket 195 00:07:44,719 --> 00:07:45,799 Speaker 4: and make plays when they come. 196 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:50,799 Speaker 3: At the last game with Carolina and your emotion and 197 00:07:50,919 --> 00:07:53,399 Speaker 3: going to that result those things and then look at 198 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,358 Speaker 3: this previous games to some things. 199 00:07:55,439 --> 00:07:58,759 Speaker 6: What would be important things that really stand out for 200 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,199 Speaker 6: you for anything. 201 00:08:01,239 --> 00:08:06,519 Speaker 4: From that, Yeah, I think just being more definitive my feet, 202 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 4: you know you decisive drops, decisive eyes, decisive decisiveness in general. 203 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:13,518 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of times we're kind of 204 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,079 Speaker 4: hopping back there in college and trying to be decisive 205 00:08:16,119 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 4: and playing my feet and let it go. In the NFL, 206 00:08:18,159 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 4: I think you gotta play on time, You gotta play 207 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 4: with the anticipation. So I think I said, I feel 208 00:08:23,119 --> 00:08:25,719 Speaker 4: like I see it well and I got you good feels. 209 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:27,599 Speaker 4: So I think just getting more and more reps in 210 00:08:27,599 --> 00:08:29,879 Speaker 4: this offense and being able to change some stuff and 211 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:31,479 Speaker 4: hope we get to that level. So there's a lot 212 00:08:31,479 --> 00:08:33,639 Speaker 4: of area for me to grow in this offense, and 213 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,759 Speaker 4: I appreciate you know what AVP and TC and those 214 00:08:36,759 --> 00:08:39,118 Speaker 4: guys have done. 215 00:08:41,199 --> 00:08:44,039 Speaker 2: Patriots Playbook join John Rook as he brings you all 216 00:08:44,078 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: the latest Patriots Talk an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 217 00:08:48,119 --> 00:08:50,519 Speaker 2: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 218 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 2: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 219 00:08:52,599 --> 00:08:53,239 Speaker 2: state of the team. 220 00:08:53,319 --> 00:08:56,078 Speaker 1: But where the Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one 221 00:08:56,119 --> 00:08:58,759 Speaker 1: thing done and let's get it done right and then 222 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,639 Speaker 1: we can worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here? 223 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:03,279 Speaker 5: Let's just get one thing done. 224 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:06,039 Speaker 3: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 225 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:06,639 Speaker 3: move along. 226 00:09:06,719 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 5: That's kind of my biggest thing. 227 00:09:08,239 --> 00:09:10,838 Speaker 2: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.