WEBVTT - It Was Never About Crime feat. Prop

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<v Speaker 1>As media, what's up, Y'all's your favorite cousin again?

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<v Speaker 2>Prop is in the building?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm saying, well in y earbuds or speakers, however

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<v Speaker 1>the hell you listen to this, your favorite cousin is here.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to assume that that is the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and since you can't answer me, we just gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with that. It's been a while since I tapped in

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<v Speaker 1>with y'all ruined your music festivals and then told you

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<v Speaker 1>about your municipalities and your waters. Somebody reached out to us,

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, gestures wildly. We have not been able

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to her, but about how she was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of an effort to non privatize the water

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<v Speaker 1>inside of her neighborhood and district and they won.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We apologize if you've You know, our job has not

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<v Speaker 1>been boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the start of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>But today I'm gonna bring you some blackness, some genuine blackness,

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<v Speaker 1>and then some This has to be a black conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you, matter of fact as are racist.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to approach it like this because crime has

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<v Speaker 1>become a color mute term in the era of Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of always has been, but it's really obvious

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<v Speaker 1>now with the National Guard being unleashed onto the streets

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<v Speaker 1>of Washington, d C. There's this some sort of clearly

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<v Speaker 1>obvious conflation between the houseless population, poverty, crime black folks. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all kind of like one thing with this food,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not rocket science for y'all, it's just you

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<v Speaker 1>know what he talking about. You know how I know

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<v Speaker 1>this how he thinks is because whenever he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>black people supporting him, he talks about criminal reform, because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that's what all black.

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<v Speaker 2>People care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Only just like you know, when he's say immigration, he

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<v Speaker 1>mean Latino And the whole not feeling safe is just

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, the crime that the houseless population of

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<v Speaker 1>DC have is being ill. That's the crime, because they

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<v Speaker 1>No one has ever given me a legitimate reason as

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<v Speaker 1>to why not having a place to stay as a crime. Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Margaret Kill joined him have this whole joint

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<v Speaker 1>about loitering and loitering laws like truancies. Why I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of myself. The point is the crime is that

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<v Speaker 1>you exist. So today I want to talk to y'all

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<v Speaker 1>about something that y'all already know.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is it's never been about the crime. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, first of all, some stuff that don't matter. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>still following Drake. I don't know if y'all like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my crowd is following Drake. Let me stop making a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between us.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know Drake suing UMG and his label over,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not like us, and just proven that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not like us anyway. The new thing in this man's

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit he is he's demanding UMG bring evidence over to

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<v Speaker 1>push the teeth thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I mean by to push the teeth thing?

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<v Speaker 2>When Push the T came.

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<v Speaker 1>At him, which we can all agree if you in

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<v Speaker 1>the rap, he won also shout out the clips. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you go back to the Push the Teeth time,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the back to back and I'm charged up

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<v Speaker 1>that time he was like, Yo, I'm gonna show y'all

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<v Speaker 1>the emails, and y'all bring in the emails from when

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were suppressing Push the T's stuff, when you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were like making sure that like it got copyright

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<v Speaker 1>claimed and stuff getting off the streamers and pulled down

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<v Speaker 1>all the say, man, you helped me suppress this man's music.

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<v Speaker 1>When Push the te came after me. Why y'all don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it with not like us.

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<v Speaker 2>Which means your corny ass you just told on yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so push it was right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is and you trying to take

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<v Speaker 1>down Kendrick unsnitched on twenty eighteen, you right, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>because you had to label interfere with this battle fam. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear some more like real just

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<v Speaker 1>rapping ass rappers, there's this great battle that was going

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<v Speaker 1>on between Joey Badass and Ray Vaughn and then somehow

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<v Speaker 1>it became a triple with this dude named Daylight and

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<v Speaker 1>this other brother named Reason. These were some really really

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<v Speaker 1>dope bars. Now Absol got into the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Apsol, Rhapsody, and Joey are going on tour,

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<v Speaker 1>which sucks because I'm on the same management team as

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, and I ain't on that tour.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was, though it'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a rap and rapping tour, but I definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>do the numbers they do anyway. Today, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>light of like I said, the Feds in DC, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>keep claiming these emergency cases that gives him these powers

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<v Speaker 1>to do these different things. And as a side note,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Jay six happened and he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi should have called in the National Guard. Shan't

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<v Speaker 1>call in the passion of guard? What was President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do? Well, I would think what he's doing now,

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<v Speaker 1>because they used to say these same people that was

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<v Speaker 1>arguing that Trump ain't had a power to stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning he didn't have the power to call in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Guard, are also praising him right now for using

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<v Speaker 1>his presidential power to call in the National Guard. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, racism make you dumb as hell. But

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<v Speaker 1>in light of this, despite all evidence showing that the

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<v Speaker 1>crime rate has dropped thirty percent in DC, this man

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<v Speaker 1>still keeps talking about the crime wave and the safety

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<v Speaker 1>or the lack of safety that people feel in DC. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let Bridget do a full episode on really

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Chocolate City? My mama from DC.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my whole mama side of the family still

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<v Speaker 1>out there. So I used to spend every other summer

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<v Speaker 1>in DC. Now, don't give me it wrong. Being down

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent is absolutely positive, But DC ain't safe now.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on what parts you in see, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about crime statistics. But before I get into crime statistics,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk about the concept of crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Period.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be no surprise to y'all because you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to cool Zone media.

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<v Speaker 2>Crime is made up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, criminal crime, I think it's very important to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a social construct.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what do I mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean is it's situational, right, How the same

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<v Speaker 1>act can mean two different things. Now, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>conceptual thing that obviously our felt experience is a little

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<v Speaker 1>more real.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me give you an example.

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<v Speaker 1>Let a disaster hit, a hurricane, an earthquake, a flood.

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<v Speaker 1>If I go into that grocery store and get some bread,

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<v Speaker 1>am I looting or scavenging? Am I stealing or surviving?

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer is depends on what color you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Crime is a social construct. Because if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>how is George Zimmerman still walking? Having said that, one

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<v Speaker 1>could take this argument and go super bonkers on it

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<v Speaker 1>and say the same thing about pedophilia, Like, who's to

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<v Speaker 1>say that what Epstein did is a crime? Because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, crime is a social construct. Here's my answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that. It's social because we live in a social

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<v Speaker 1>soci it t fam. Although borders are made up, so

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<v Speaker 1>is money, and so are driver's licenses. Of course, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no force field at the forty ninth parallel that separates

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<v Speaker 1>Canada from America. However, we have decided that before you

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<v Speaker 1>get behind the wheel of a car, you better have

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<v Speaker 1>passed some sort of examination for us to know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're safe enough to drive behind this You could physically

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<v Speaker 1>drive this car, but we live in a society that says, hey, homy,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to make sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to have some sort of due diligence.

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<v Speaker 1>We have decided as a species that is self aware

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<v Speaker 1>that our children matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Their safety is important to us.

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<v Speaker 1>The person standing next to you has the right to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you like that person or not, they have the

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<v Speaker 1>right to exist. You cannot hold them against they will.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hey be as corpus, apparently unbeknownst to Christy Nole,

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<v Speaker 1>who clearly don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what hate be as corpus means.

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<v Speaker 1>As a whole other topic, what is criminal and what

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<v Speaker 1>is lawful is something that we've agreed upon in our

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<v Speaker 1>social contract. Now, we, however, live in a modern secular

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<v Speaker 1>democracy which says that we have a say in what

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<v Speaker 1>becomes laws or not so and got to just lay

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<v Speaker 1>down and let you just cause stuff a crime that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't a crime or that shouldn't be a crime. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of what is and is an crime, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing Black people have been telling you the answer for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, specifically rappers. Okay, Now, I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok about this, and it's very irresponsible of me that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember love Hommy's name and I can't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the suggested, you know, or yeah, just stuff

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<v Speaker 1>pop in like before you. I cannot find Brad Brushs

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok black Man, super brilliant, but he reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>some lyrics that Freeway said that captures the point of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're trying to make. I love his dude's TikTok man, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta find it. Hopefully, I'll hopefully I'll find it

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<v Speaker 1>and put it in the show notes. But Freeway's verse

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<v Speaker 1>with a song with jay Z says, we still hustle

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<v Speaker 1>to the sun come up, crack a forty when the

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<v Speaker 1>sun go down. It's a cold winter, y'all, niggas better

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<v Speaker 1>bundle up. I bet it's a hot summer. Grab an

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<v Speaker 1>onion just to rock it down, you hot, Now listen up,

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<v Speaker 1>follow me. You don't know the cops soul purposes to

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<v Speaker 1>lock us down. Throw away to key. But without this

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<v Speaker 1>drug shit, your kids ain't got no way to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>We still trying to keep mom smiling because when her

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<v Speaker 1>teeth stops showing and her stomach start growling, then the

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<v Speaker 1>heat start flowing. If you from my hood, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you feel me keep going, the sneaks start leaning and

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<v Speaker 1>the heat stop working, then my heat start working, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rob me a person.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now listen.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the lyrics that Lil Bra quoted in his TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>and the point he's making, which is the same point

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making, is that he's talking about the solutions to crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he said it right there, like I just want

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<v Speaker 1>my mom to smile. My kids don't have any other

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<v Speaker 1>way to eat. And then he says, when the heat

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<v Speaker 1>stop working, then my heat start working, I'm gonna rob

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<v Speaker 1>me a person.

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<v Speaker 2>It is resources.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, follow what this brood trying to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>is that you putting law enforcement in our neighborhoods doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fix anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Does you?

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<v Speaker 1>Does what we're saying, He's like, no, you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to lock us up. That is not solving the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is I'm hungry, My mama's hungry, my kids

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<v Speaker 1>are hungry. My sneaks start leaning. What he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>is his tennis shoes as sneakers, they're leaning. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk on your sneakers too much in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of your shoes in the back house start running

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<v Speaker 1>around the side. Then it starts thinning out, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the back of your shoe just looks uneven. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when your sneaks are leaning. This is what he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say. My stomach is rumbling. Had we had better

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<v Speaker 1>funded schools, had we had more opportunities, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm robbing this person because there is no other OPA. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>are there other options? Maybe, But if you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>the math, listen, this is simple economics. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make one thousand dollars tonight because the rents do tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>you go over to Spanish Jose's house. Spanish Jose say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't got to do nothing. Just put this bag

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<v Speaker 1>in your backseat and drive the park slope, drop it

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<v Speaker 1>off a comeback, or you can go.

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<v Speaker 2>Work twenty dollars an hour at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't no uncles with endowments, and check this out exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me push you even further, even if you are

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<v Speaker 1>smarty awt Now, even if you're a smart one. The

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<v Speaker 1>government just told Harvard that they can't recruit in my neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I got the grades for it, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>woke shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you want? What the fuck you want me

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<v Speaker 2>to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the premise of what I'm talking about, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>we know the solutions. It's never been about crime, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me talk about out some folks, some black

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<v Speaker 1>folks who do care about the solution, who do care

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<v Speaker 1>about crime. Because if we're talking about crime in our

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<v Speaker 1>urban areas, who the fuck do you think the crimes

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<v Speaker 1>are against? And see, that's the part that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>so mad. When I be talking to these people. You

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<v Speaker 1>think we don't care because who are these crimes getting

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<v Speaker 1>carried out against.

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<v Speaker 2>You think we happy to see all them police.

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<v Speaker 1>One would think, if it worked, we would be happy

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<v Speaker 1>to see all these police in our streets.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, the shit don't help. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm gonna do in the rest of the show

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<v Speaker 1>is prove to y'all, based on decades of research, what

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<v Speaker 1>does reduce crime.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna link all the things in the bio.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I had to come my a game if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going on the cappen here, because these some of

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<v Speaker 1>the smartest people like y'all. Listen, the people on this show, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all is like real journalists. I'm just a rapper that

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to explain shit. So I needed to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that i have my ducks in a row. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to show y'all a trillion examples of where

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<v Speaker 1>if you really from these blocks, if you really do

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<v Speaker 1>care about the welfare of black people, then maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>should listen to black people see and let me bring

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<v Speaker 1>in my trans community here because they problem with you this.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with y'all, I'm gonna be transparent, which

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of what radicalized me whilst really started

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the trans experience is because the shit they

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<v Speaker 1>say about us is the shit they say about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your crime is we just don't like you around. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, all these laws against trans

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<v Speaker 1>people is really just because you just think they gross

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<v Speaker 1>And so with us, it was just like you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is redlining, discriminatory practices in jobs? You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want us around. What is white flight, you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want us around. And your justification of this is this

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<v Speaker 1>made up ass word name crime and that you care

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<v Speaker 1>that crime at But Nikki, you don't. Okay, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>getting ahead of myself. Let's take a break. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. I've calmed down. So the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>you want to think about is how crime is reported,

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<v Speaker 1>right in the ways for which it's reported, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the geographical locations that we're talking about. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>say the crime in Washington, DC, it's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>crime happens in an evenly distributed thing, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all of DC, if you will, there's northeast, Northwest, Southeast,

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<v Speaker 1>south southeast, and southwest. Now due to gentrification, southeast which

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<v Speaker 1>is where Anacostia is and was at one time the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of mecha of just like Black DC of chocolate Cy,

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<v Speaker 1>Chocola Cy. The whole city was chocolate forever. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed because I spent every other summer there and

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<v Speaker 1>my mama from there. But like Southeast DC is the

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<v Speaker 1>last non gentrified area. Now do you think it's thugs

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the National Monument sipping forty ounces.

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<v Speaker 2>No you out there with the tourists sipping macha.

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<v Speaker 1>So in one sense is when you say crime has

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<v Speaker 1>dropped thirty percent, it's like thirty percent since when?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And is it averaged across all of DC or are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about in its areas where things like carjackings,

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<v Speaker 1>homicides and stuff like that happened right now? Remember what

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about a long time ago, at least on

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<v Speaker 1>my show. Hopefully y'all remember this that the crime rates

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<v Speaker 1>in America is always a weird situation because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>live in America. You live in your city, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>is going crazy in your own local neighborhoods, so you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, damn, this place is wild. Or maybe, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, maybe you're in like Northwest Portland, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like you know, over there off Gleason,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel me in like it's nice, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like you don't never see a single But

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<v Speaker 1>if you live over there in Chinatown next to Voodoo Donuts, Dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem like you walking over zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm trying to say is sometimes the statistics can

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<v Speaker 1>be deceiving. Now Granny and them who you know, bought

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<v Speaker 1>their house a long time ago. They see the graffiti

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall and they think, you know, YadA YadA,

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<v Speaker 1>the boys like loitering outside. How do you fix it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to introduce it to Philadelphia, which coincidentally is

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<v Speaker 1>where Freeway is from.

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<v Speaker 2>So the data is pretty clear. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the Violent Crime Reduction Report, it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally it's at the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 2>You can read it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>It tells you exactly what has worked to drop homicide,

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<v Speaker 1>violent crime, carjacking, theft. It tells you what has worked,

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<v Speaker 1>what has not worked. A simple google right, and the

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<v Speaker 1>intro of this is this is a violent crime reduction

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<v Speaker 1>between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five, and it

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<v Speaker 1>says for the past three years, the Justice Department has

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<v Speaker 1>been executing comprehensive strategies to reduce violent crime rooted in

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<v Speaker 1>local communities, and we're seeing trends in the form of

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<v Speaker 1>crimes being prevented in live saved. According to available data

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty three, murder, rape, robbery, and aggregated assault

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<v Speaker 1>is in a considerable decline and nearly ninety major cities

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. Violent crime has continued to drop during

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<v Speaker 1>the last six months of this year compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>same period last year, including a seventeen percent decrease in homicide.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Deputy.

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Monkyo on September seventeenth, twenty twenty four. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it very real again, violent crime rates being

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<v Speaker 1>up and down are obviously relative. Now, one thing was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we were in a pandemic, so there's that, right. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing is it's almost like how everybody was complaining again

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<v Speaker 1>that crime was up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like y'all forgot the nineties existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I lived it, and baby, this ain't nothing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual fear of pain and suffering.

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<v Speaker 2>This pales in comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in a great place in relation to what

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<v Speaker 1>we went through in the eighties and nineties. Now again

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking national trends right again. In your local neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>it may be it may be a green light apvening.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying for you to say that our country's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a cess.

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<v Speaker 2>Pool means you not reading the data.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Conversation, it's like independent journalist this author.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Katerina g Roman.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a professor of criminal justice at Temple University and

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<v Speaker 1>as a side note, at Temple University, Mahomie Timothy, he's

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<v Speaker 1>teaching a class on Kendrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar and his lyrics and hip hop and justice.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually spoke at his class a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was pretty dope to hear what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But now check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>According to her writing, it says that the Pennsylvania spends

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<v Speaker 1>roughly two hundred thousand dollars a year for each juvenile

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<v Speaker 1>it incarcerates. According to the twenty twenty one report from

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<v Speaker 1>a bipartisan Pennsylvania Juvenile Justice Track Force, that's fifty times

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<v Speaker 1>the cost to deliver evidence based family therapy that would

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<v Speaker 1>prevent kids from going into the justice system in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. I'm gonna tell you before I even read

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this, because I lived it. We just

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<v Speaker 1>be bored. It ain't nothing to do. There are no opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>When the heat stopped working, then my heat start working.

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<v Speaker 1>In Philadelphia, juvenile incarceration involves the confinement in city ran

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Juvenile Services and other residential placements facilities young people

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<v Speaker 1>leave these facilities with lower chances of graduating high school,

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<v Speaker 1>freight mental health, and the higher likelihood of re arrest

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<v Speaker 1>or being shot. Can I again please speak from my

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<v Speaker 1>own experience. When you go into these juveniles cases, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to pick a location of people that you would

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<v Speaker 1>fo protection, even if you don't run with them, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you an'll know them niggas outside here, when y'all

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<v Speaker 1>get outside, y'all may never have talked again. But in here,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you went in there over some stupid like shoplift,

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<v Speaker 1>is some damn spray paint, whatever the case may be,

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<v Speaker 1>you now got to run with the people that got

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<v Speaker 1>your same skin tone and are from your part of town.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to kids. Don't go in being members of gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to join one to stay alive. Now check

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<v Speaker 1>this out. When you get out. Part of the terms

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<v Speaker 1>of your probation is you can't be around certain criminal

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<v Speaker 1>festivities or activities or people.

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<v Speaker 2>With criminal records. Where you're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>If I just happen to live on sixtieth Street next

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<v Speaker 1>to my uncle, I just live here. You mess around,

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<v Speaker 1>go visit your granny house, and then it got a

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<v Speaker 1>report to your PO. You've been fragnized when known gang members.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably going back. This shit don't work, y'all. But

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<v Speaker 1>what does now?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Back to this article, drawing from about thirty five years

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<v Speaker 1>of work in Philadelphia and other cities to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>makes neighborhoods safe for I believe the surest returns home

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<v Speaker 1>from prevention strategies aimed at young people who are not

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<v Speaker 1>yet immersed in robbery, shootings and gun activities. Right so

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<v Speaker 1>they give some examples of the things that they've done.

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<v Speaker 1>First of it is a school based case management in

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<v Speaker 1>Barthrom High now in southwest Philly, John Bartram High Schools

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<v Speaker 1>has a youth violence reduction initiative that launched in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. It was designed by former school safety chief

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia now Philadelphia Police Commissioner Kevin Bethel, School Safety

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<v Speaker 1>Offer Programs Manager Ken Rosa, and criminal justice researcher Brandy

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<v Speaker 1>Blasco and.

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<v Speaker 2>This person that wrote the article.

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<v Speaker 1>Students who have been involved in fights or show other

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<v Speaker 1>risk factors of violence and street gang.

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<v Speaker 2>Involvements are referred to this program.

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<v Speaker 1>The initiative's core idea is simple, earn students trust through consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>credible mentorship and step in when needed. Stepping in means

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<v Speaker 1>teaching conflict resolution skills, running engaging workshops, buying a meal,

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<v Speaker 1>intervening when a fight is brewing or a student is

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<v Speaker 1>on the verge of being expelled. Each week, a team

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<v Speaker 1>of administrators, counselors, school safety officers, and community outreach workers,

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<v Speaker 1>most of whom are based in the school, review the participants, progress,

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<v Speaker 1>the tracks, follow through referrals, and coordinate communication with family,

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<v Speaker 1>school and staff. This is a tightly managed, relationship driven

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<v Speaker 1>safety net that gives students quicker access to help make

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<v Speaker 1>school climates calmer and safer.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems so obvious. You just need somebody you trust. Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things even in.

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<v Speaker 1>My own house, my own life was I knew my neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>and my neighbors knew me, and if they call me

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<v Speaker 1>outside standing with the wrong people, I knew they was

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell Mama. Sometimes, since they're teenagers, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have conflict resolution skills. All they know is to pop off.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever been angry? You don't think kids be angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Your teacher in there asking you about your algebra homework,

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<v Speaker 1>your stomach rumbling. I ain't got shit to say to

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<v Speaker 1>her because I'm hungry. And sometimes it's just a meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's just knowing somebody cares. Sometimes it's just you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I know. I've experienced it too. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not even they ain't even no reason to

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<v Speaker 1>explain my position to you, because you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna believe me, or you just gonna call the police.

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<v Speaker 1>I taught a kid, I've said this story so many

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<v Speaker 1>times who used to show up late in class. When

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<v Speaker 1>I used to teach, he show up late in class

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<v Speaker 1>maybe three to four times a week, always had his

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<v Speaker 1>homework in his hand. You've tarty that many times were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to call a truancy officer. Ain't no way in

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<v Speaker 1>the world I'm calling a truancy officer because that means

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<v Speaker 1>they mama gonna have to pay a twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollar fee.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one and number two. Now he got a record.

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<v Speaker 1>All I did, guys, I just asked him, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you late every day?

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<v Speaker 2>He say, because he trusts me.

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<v Speaker 1>My daddy'd be drinking too much at night, so he

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<v Speaker 1>can't get up and take us to school. So I

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<v Speaker 1>take my brother to school first and then come here.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just the time I get here.

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<v Speaker 1>I never marked him thirty, since all you do is ask, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which leads me to the second thing, the power of

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<v Speaker 1>credible caring adults.

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<v Speaker 2>It's real simple.

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<v Speaker 1>You got people that care, you got food programs. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me nerd it up again now. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>Youth Justice Services, Relationships, Rehabilitation, and the Reality of Young

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<v Speaker 1>People Involved a metasynthesis of qualitative literature. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>scholarly literature reviewed results that says that just having an

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<v Speaker 1>adult who you know cares, just having one that cared,

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<v Speaker 1>changes significantly the chances of a student getting into a

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 1>life of crime.

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<v Speaker 2>But just knowing somebody care.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to link in it again into these show notes,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the data, all the stuff I've been looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can check it out yourself. I know it

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>seems like a gross oversimplification by the way that I'm

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>just saying it right now. Usually you know what I'm saying.

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>If we was doing the it can happen here thing.

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I got to be able to read this stuff out

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to you, but I can read a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that that the themes that broke out after

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<v Speaker 1>interviewing one hundred and fifty kids is that young people

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>reported first being pessimistic about entering these services, and their

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>past experiences impacted their ability to trust and were initially

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>cautious of professionals.

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 2>But watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>These were the themes and sub themes they felt valued

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and finding worth within their system. The reciprocal nature of

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>understanding and respect. These kids felt respected, the importance of

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>having one good person, creating a secure base for exploration

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and development, and then showing a genuine care by going

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<v Speaker 1>above an beyond.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>So basically, just be kind.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And it helps a student sixed.

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Ain't that crazy?

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, homicides at Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>at the lowest level they've been in twenty five years.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>How it's long time and it takes effort.

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<v Speaker 1>But next, I want to talk about whoa the city

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>of Baltimore or is new mayor up there cooking?

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>All right? Next? All right, we bike now Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you notice which I love about it,

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and of course you probably don't know about it because.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>A black man did this.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore's homicide rate has fallen forty percent. Baltimore, you understand,

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.719
<v Speaker 1>this is where the wire took place. Don't get me

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>wrong about Baltimore. Baltimore active murder capitalal of a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh listen, Baltimore was active now. According to the Guardian,

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>violent crime in America's big cities has been receiving since

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic for about two years. But even in comparisons

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>baltimore improvement is breathtaking. Fewer people have been killed in

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the city over the last seven months than any other

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>particular period for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the funny part.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi talking about sending a National Guard up to DC

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to help with the crime in DC. Meanwhile, Jackson, Mississippi,

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>got a higher murder rate than DC. Right now, y'all, people,

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is weird. It's never been about crime now, back to Guardian.

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<v Speaker 1>As of fifteen August, the running three hundred and sixty

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>five day total for murders in Baltimore stood at one

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty five dead. Assuming the city remains that pace,

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the murder rate will finish below thirty per ten thousand

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>residents for the first time.

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Since nineteen eighty six.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>If it remains on pace since the first of January,

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it would have finished twenty twenty five at one hundred

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and forty three murders, a rate of about twenty five

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>per one hundred thousand, the last scene in Baltimore since

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight.

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Now check this out.

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Y'all may not remember this, but y'all remember Freddie Gray,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the boy that got killed in the back of the

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>police holding tank. See, that's what happens when you just

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>bring cops into a place. It ain't about the crime. Though,

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>back to the Guardian, since twenty fifteen, there has been

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>here in Baltimore, this acknowledgment that the equity needs to

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>be the priority.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Brown said the riots were as much about the

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>conditions of poverty as it was about Gray's death. I

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>hope you hearing that people losing their homes and foreclosures

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to water bills, for example, as they were about police brutality.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But the heavy handed response to the cops of the

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>protests failed to hold the police accountable for misconduct, right,

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>eviscerating the relationship between the Baltimore police and the public.

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore State Attorney Marion Moseley laid murder charges on the

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>officers involved, and Baltimore's police union closed ranks and response,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>eviscerating the relationship between the police and politicians, and serious

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>scandals at the City Hall and the state's attorney offers

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and the failure of Moseley's charges to result in convictions,

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>violence skyrocket. But here come this young brother, Brandon Scott,

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>young black man. Right, he's a former city council member. Right,

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>he's been a long observer of the violence, you know

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And before he became the mayor in

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, then he implemented what he's calling a comprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>three pillar approach.

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Right. The first pillar is called public health approach to violence. Right.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>The second pillar is community engagement and interagency coordination.

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Right. The third pillar is evaluation and accountability. Right.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So, like I said in the beginning, it starts with

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the community, all right. So check this out again from

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the Guardian. Against Baltimore's police budget topping a half a

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars, the largest police budget per capital of any

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>large city in the USA. The political establishment gave its

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.719
<v Speaker 1>new millennial mayor room to experiment with fifty million dollars

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of Washington's money. So they took that budget that was

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a half a billion, gave him fifty million.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And since trust was like solo, the first step was

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to get everybody aboard. So he took that money the cops,

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the hospitals, the jails, the school the social services, the

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>State Department, the Feds, and he appointed this dude named

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Richard Worley, Oh who is the city police Commissioner in

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>June twenty twenty three. Wesley was a lifelong Baltimore officer,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>picked in part to bring the rank and file in

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>line with Scott's anti violence program. Scott emphasizes partnerships as

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>an important.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Part of the process.

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Now, he took other federal grants and he gave the

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>money to the people that actually do the services. He

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>ain't just keeping for them. Now here's the thing cuts

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>my mouth to say it. But if you are going

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to stop violence in the situation that we live in,

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the cops got to be involved. Because most of the

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>time the cops are the problem. It's always punishment in

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>prison with them. They only come with a stick when

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>something already happened. So you got to get them on

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the table, and you got to get them at the

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>table with somebody that's going to be willing to be

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>held accountable.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>And remember that's pillar three.

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Now, Now, far being from me, because I don't live

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore, would I ever shield for no mayor like this.

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you what the data say is and

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I got family in Baltimore. Now, what Scott said is again,

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 1>we focus on the individuals and groups that are most

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>likely to be the victim or perpetuator of violence.

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>We go to them. Listen, they knock on doors.

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a social worker that comes to the door with

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>a letter from the mayor that says, yo, you're trying

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of this, and their only targeting

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>kids are families that they know got low poverty rates

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and high chances of crime. You looking for the people

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>who are most likely going to fall a victim, to

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>perpetuating it or receiving it.

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Because remember how we started this whole thing.

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Before you think we don't care about crime, we're the

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>ones that it's happening too. So he says, quote Curtis Palomero,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>who runs the youth violence prevention nonprofit RAKA in Baltimore,

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>it says, we're talking about young people with the elevated risk.

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about the young person that says FU

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to his teacher or tells his mom and dad are

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>ground while he don't want to do XYZ. We're talking

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>about kids who have literally probably have two tracks jail

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and death. He knocks on the door while the cop

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>is carrying met the mayor's letter, and as often as

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>not he has to knock on a dozen doors before

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>he gets a chance. Why cause niggas don't trust the cops, right,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Why would they? But since there's no single thing that

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>is preventative, trust must be built right moving on in

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>this article, there are two types of people that are

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>most vulnerable, nasays, the people in their early twenties who

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>are feuding over trivial matters someone looked at me wrong,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>somebody bumped in as somebody right, or other people who

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 1>are in the drug game more around. The violence that

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>has to do with other criminal enterprises are so much

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>more calculated. Critically, it's not every young person with Instagram

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>beef and not every stand down neighborhood street dealer that

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>rises to their attention. The risk factors creates a reasonable, articulatable,

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 1>legally defensible basis for contact, which means you're not being

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>hunted by the cops.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you understand the piece?

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I would have felt it I known that since I

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't involved in none of this shit, they may not

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>be coming up to me. You've already calmed my nervous

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>system down right. There's another story about a young man

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>who was recovering after a gunshot and in this Life

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>coach Nigga from a youth advocate program approached him and

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Jalen said, this is This man said, he just han't

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>been in the wrong part of West Baltimore at the

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>wrong time. Now, most of us who grew up like this,

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.919
<v Speaker 1>that's true. He wasn't especially receptive to this first life

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>coach at all.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 2>He said, I thought there was a catch.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought I'd have to pay them back in the future,

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>because when the police do it to you, that's exactly

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>what it is.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 2>You got to pay them back later.

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>But this person is funded by the city to just

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>be a life coach. I ain't asking you to snitch

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>on nobody. I ain't asking you to make yourself put

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself in danger. Outside is somebody who under stands what

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like to live out here. This life coach says,

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>it's about follow up. Today, they might say get the

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>fuck out of here. Tomorrow, they might be wanting some services.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It might be something tragic that happens and they need change.

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, my mother's not smiling no more. I

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>need a way to pay my mama's life bill. Can

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you help me with that? Here's what's crazy. Yes, I

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 1>can help you with that. We have services. Why because

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to the other departments. Right on the law side,

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:36.919
<v Speaker 1>here's a prevention. They dismissed thirty four percent of non

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>violent charges. I was a non violet offender. It was graffiti.

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Just make me pay the fine. Like it's fine. I

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 1>got pay the fine. I don't care. Right, you have

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>like a nickel bag of weed in your pocket. You're

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at five years. The shit is not working. That's

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>over policing. But if the district attorney look at you

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and say, nigga's some weed man, get the fuck out

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of here, Go take care of your mama. Matter of fact,

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I want you to talk to this brother over here.

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna help get your plumber's license. Oh so there's

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>job placement. Right.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 2>There's all that, and then finally evaluation.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Listen, you got a carrying adult, You got services available

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to you. And you know if somebody in this program,

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 1>if any of these law enforcement, these city people act

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the fuck up, there are consequences. That is Pillar three.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna link all this stuff to you. There's a

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>four year evaluation, and you will get fucking fired. If

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I know that if you treat me right, something gonna

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>happen to you, I might think a little different. Listen,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the heat stopped working, so my heat start working. But

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>if my stomach is full, and the bills are paid,

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and there's after school programs that go to and I

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>know these old people around me aren't gonna trust me

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>when I tell them stuff when I'm dealing with situations

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that may or may not be out of my control.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got big homei'es pressing me to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's somebody I could trust that I could talk

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<v Speaker 1>to that's not gonna turn me into a snitch. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't telling the cops just to get them to

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<v Speaker 1>give me information about a crime that happened over there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what's happening right now. You are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the violence. You're not trying to catch a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to prevent criminality, and it's at a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>year low. But sure, go ahea and send a national guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, obviously this ain't the system. I won't but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the system we got.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>You would never see me shill for no police department

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<v Speaker 1>or mayor, but cities like Philly in Baltimore are proven. Nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>If you just care and you spend money on trusted

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<v Speaker 1>sources and provide resources, the crime it drops itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems so simple. But you know what do we know?

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<v Speaker 1>We're just black people and all this tells me what

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<v Speaker 1>we already knew. It was never about crime, ever, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's research that shows what actually works in reducing crime.

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<v Speaker 1>What this about? You just think we're you and you're

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<v Speaker 1>a white supremacist. You just want a white world and

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's cool to have military in our streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong. You didn't invent that. You was

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<v Speaker 2>in Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I know you ain't invent that because

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<v Speaker 1>there's an amendment in the Constitution that says that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to live in a world where the military

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<v Speaker 1>is on every corner.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently you do. It's clearly not about crime. It

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