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Speaker 1: As media, what's up, Y'all's your favorite cousin again?

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Speaker 2: Prop is in the building?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying, well in y earbuds or speakers, however

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Speaker 1: the hell you listen to this, your favorite cousin is here.

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Speaker 1: I am going to assume that that is the truth,

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Speaker 1: and since you can't answer me, we just gonna go

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Speaker 1: with that. It's been a while since I tapped in

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Speaker 1: with y'all ruined your music festivals and then told you

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Speaker 1: about your municipalities and your waters. Somebody reached out to us,

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Speaker 1: who you know, gestures wildly. We have not been able

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Speaker 1: to get back to her, but about how she was

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Speaker 1: a part of an effort to non privatize the water

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Speaker 1: inside of her neighborhood and district and they won.

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Speaker 2: So shout out to you.

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Speaker 1: We apologize if you've You know, our job has not

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Speaker 1: been boring.

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Speaker 2: Since the start of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: But today I'm gonna bring you some blackness, some genuine blackness,

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Speaker 1: and then some This has to be a black conversation.

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Speaker 2: Because you, matter of fact as are racist.

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Speaker 1: I have to approach it like this because crime has

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Speaker 1: become a color mute term in the era of Trump.

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Speaker 1: It kind of always has been, but it's really obvious

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Speaker 1: now with the National Guard being unleashed onto the streets

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Speaker 1: of Washington, d C. There's this some sort of clearly

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Speaker 1: obvious conflation between the houseless population, poverty, crime black folks. Like,

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Speaker 1: it's all kind of like one thing with this food,

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Speaker 1: which is not rocket science for y'all, it's just you

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Speaker 1: know what he talking about. You know how I know

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Speaker 1: this how he thinks is because whenever he talks about

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Speaker 1: black people supporting him, he talks about criminal reform, because

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Speaker 1: apparently that's what all black.

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Speaker 2: People care about.

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Speaker 1: Only just like you know, when he's say immigration, he

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Speaker 1: mean Latino And the whole not feeling safe is just

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Speaker 1: because you know, the crime that the houseless population of

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Speaker 1: DC have is being ill. That's the crime, because they

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Speaker 1: No one has ever given me a legitimate reason as

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Speaker 1: to why not having a place to stay as a crime. Hell,

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Speaker 1: you know, Margaret Kill joined him have this whole joint

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Speaker 1: about loitering and loitering laws like truancies. Why I'm getting

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Speaker 1: ahead of myself. The point is the crime is that

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Speaker 1: you exist. So today I want to talk to y'all

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Speaker 1: about something that y'all already know.

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Speaker 2: Which is it's never been about the crime. All right.

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Speaker 1: Now, first of all, some stuff that don't matter. Y'all

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Speaker 1: still following Drake. I don't know if y'all like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: my crowd is following Drake. Let me stop making a

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Speaker 2: But listen.

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Speaker 1: So you know Drake suing UMG and his label over,

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Speaker 1: you know, not like us, and just proven that he's

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Speaker 1: not like us anyway. The new thing in this man's

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Speaker 1: lawsuit he is he's demanding UMG bring evidence over to

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Speaker 1: push the teeth thing.

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Speaker 2: What do I mean by to push the teeth thing?

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Speaker 2: When Push the T came.

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Speaker 1: At him, which we can all agree if you in

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Speaker 1: when you go back to the Push the Teeth time,

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Speaker 1: that time he was like, Yo, I'm gonna show y'all

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Speaker 1: the emails, and y'all bring in the emails from when

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Speaker 1: you guys were suppressing Push the T's stuff, when you

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Speaker 1: guys were like making sure that like it got copyright

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Speaker 1: all the say, man, you helped me suppress this man's music.

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Speaker 1: When Push the te came after me. Why y'all don't

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Speaker 2: Which means your corny ass you just told on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh so push it was right.

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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is and you trying to take

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Speaker 1: down Kendrick unsnitched on twenty eighteen, you right, okay, so

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Speaker 1: because you had to label interfere with this battle fam. Now,

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Speaker 1: rapping ass rappers, there's this great battle that was going

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Speaker 1: light of like I said, the Feds in DC, Trump

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Speaker 1: I tell you, racism make you dumb as hell. But

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Speaker 1: in light of this, despite all evidence showing that the

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Speaker 1: crime rate has dropped thirty percent in DC, this man

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Speaker 1: what's going on in Chocolate City? My mama from DC.

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Speaker 1: You know, my whole mama side of the family still

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Speaker 1: in DC. Now, don't give me it wrong. Being down

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Speaker 1: It depends on what parts you in see, that's the

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Speaker 1: I need to talk about the concept of crime.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 1: This will be no surprise to y'all because you listen

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Speaker 2: Crime is made up.

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Speaker 1: Now, criminal crime, I think it's very important to understand

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Speaker 1: What I mean is it's situational, right, How the same

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Speaker 2: But let me give you an example.

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Speaker 1: you said, crime is a social construct. Here's my answer

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Speaker 1: is money, and so are driver's licenses. Of course, there's

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Speaker 2: We need to have some sort of due diligence.

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Speaker 1: We have decided as a species that is self aware

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Speaker 2: Their safety is important to us.

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Speaker 1: The person standing next to you has the right to exist.

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Speaker 1: Whether you like that person or not, they have the

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Speaker 2: Know what hate be as corpus means.

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Speaker 1: As a whole other topic, what is criminal and what

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Speaker 1: I can't remember love Hommy's name and I can't you know,

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Speaker 1: TikTok black Man, super brilliant, but he reminded me of

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Speaker 1: and put it in the show notes. But Freeway's verse

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Speaker 1: These are the lyrics that Lil Bra quoted in his TikTok,

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Speaker 2: It is resources.

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Speaker 1: But again, follow what this brood trying to tell you

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Speaker 1: is that you putting law enforcement in our neighborhoods doesn't

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Speaker 2: Does you?

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Speaker 1: Does what we're saying, He's like, no, you just want

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Speaker 1: The problem is I'm hungry, My mama's hungry, my kids

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Speaker 1: is his tennis shoes as sneakers, they're leaning. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm robbing this person because there is no other OPA. Now,

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Speaker 1: are there other options? Maybe, But if you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: Back to this article, drawing from about thirty five years

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Speaker 1: Your teacher in there asking you about your algebra homework,

437
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Speaker 1: your stomach rumbling. I ain't got shit to say to

438
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Speaker 1: her because I'm hungry. And sometimes it's just a meal.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just knowing somebody cares. Sometimes it's just you

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Speaker 1: feel like I know. I've experienced it too. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's not even they ain't even no reason to

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Speaker 1: explain my position to you, because you're.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna believe me, or you just gonna call the police.

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Speaker 1: I taught a kid, I've said this story so many

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Speaker 1: times who used to show up late in class. When

446
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Speaker 1: I used to teach, he show up late in class

447
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Speaker 1: maybe three to four times a week, always had his

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Speaker 1: homework in his hand. You've tarty that many times were

449
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Speaker 1: supposed to call a truancy officer. Ain't no way in

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Speaker 1: the world I'm calling a truancy officer because that means

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Speaker 1: they mama gonna have to pay a twenty five hundred

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Speaker 1: dollar fee.

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Speaker 2: Number one and number two. Now he got a record.

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Speaker 1: All I did, guys, I just asked him, why are

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Speaker 1: you late every day?

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Speaker 2: He say, because he trusts me.

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Speaker 1: My daddy'd be drinking too much at night, so he

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Speaker 1: can't get up and take us to school. So I

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Speaker 1: take my brother to school first and then come here.

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Speaker 2: And this is just the time I get here.

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Speaker 1: I never marked him thirty, since all you do is ask, right,

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Speaker 1: which leads me to the second thing, the power of

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Speaker 1: credible caring adults.

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Speaker 2: It's real simple.

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Speaker 1: You got people that care, you got food programs. All right,

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Speaker 1: let me nerd it up again now. According to the

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Speaker 1: Youth Justice Services, Relationships, Rehabilitation, and the Reality of Young

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Speaker 1: People Involved a metasynthesis of qualitative literature. This is a

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Speaker 1: scholarly literature reviewed results that says that just having an

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Speaker 1: adult who you know cares, just having one that cared,

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Speaker 1: changes significantly the chances of a student getting into a

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Speaker 1: life of crime.

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Speaker 2: But just knowing somebody care.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to link in it again into these show notes,

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Speaker 1: all of the data, all the stuff I've been looking at,

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Speaker 1: so you can check it out yourself. I know it

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Speaker 1: seems like a gross oversimplification by the way that I'm

478
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Speaker 1: just saying it right now. Usually you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If we was doing the it can happen here thing.

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Speaker 1: I got to be able to read this stuff out

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Speaker 1: to you, but I can read a part of it.

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Speaker 1: It says that that the themes that broke out after

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Speaker 1: interviewing one hundred and fifty kids is that young people

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Speaker 1: reported first being pessimistic about entering these services, and their

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Speaker 1: past experiences impacted their ability to trust and were initially

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Speaker 1: cautious of professionals.

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Speaker 2: But watch this.

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Speaker 1: These were the themes and sub themes they felt valued

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Speaker 1: and finding worth within their system. The reciprocal nature of

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Speaker 1: understanding and respect. These kids felt respected, the importance of

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Speaker 1: having one good person, creating a secure base for exploration

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Speaker 1: and development, and then showing a genuine care by going

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Speaker 1: above an beyond.

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Speaker 2: So basically, just be kind.

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Speaker 1: And it helps a student sixed.

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Speaker 2: Ain't that crazy?

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, homicides at Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: at the lowest level they've been in twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: How it's long time and it takes effort.

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Speaker 1: But next, I want to talk about whoa the city

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Speaker 1: of Baltimore or is new mayor up there cooking?

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Speaker 2: All right? Next? All right, we bike now Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you notice which I love about it,

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Speaker 1: and of course you probably don't know about it because.

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Speaker 2: A black man did this.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore's homicide rate has fallen forty percent. Baltimore, you understand,

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Speaker 1: this is where the wire took place. Don't get me

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00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: wrong about Baltimore. Baltimore active murder capitalal of a dog.

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Speaker 1: Oh listen, Baltimore was active now. According to the Guardian,

510
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Speaker 1: violent crime in America's big cities has been receiving since

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Speaker 1: the pandemic for about two years. But even in comparisons

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Speaker 1: baltimore improvement is breathtaking. Fewer people have been killed in

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Speaker 1: the city over the last seven months than any other

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Speaker 1: particular period for fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Here's the funny part.

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Speaker 1: Mississippi talking about sending a National Guard up to DC

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Speaker 1: to help with the crime in DC. Meanwhile, Jackson, Mississippi,

518
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Speaker 1: got a higher murder rate than DC. Right now, y'all, people,

519
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Speaker 1: is weird. It's never been about crime now, back to Guardian.

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Speaker 1: As of fifteen August, the running three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: five day total for murders in Baltimore stood at one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five dead. Assuming the city remains that pace,

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Speaker 1: the murder rate will finish below thirty per ten thousand

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Speaker 1: residents for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: If it remains on pace since the first of January,

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Speaker 1: it would have finished twenty twenty five at one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty three murders, a rate of about twenty five

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Speaker 1: per one hundred thousand, the last scene in Baltimore since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: Now check this out.

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Speaker 1: Y'all may not remember this, but y'all remember Freddie Gray,

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Speaker 1: the boy that got killed in the back of the

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Speaker 1: police holding tank. See, that's what happens when you just

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Speaker 1: bring cops into a place. It ain't about the crime. Though,

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Speaker 1: back to the Guardian, since twenty fifteen, there has been

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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore, this acknowledgment that the equity needs to

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Speaker 1: be the priority.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Brown said the riots were as much about the

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Speaker 1: conditions of poverty as it was about Gray's death. I

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Speaker 1: hope you hearing that people losing their homes and foreclosures

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Speaker 1: to water bills, for example, as they were about police brutality.

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Speaker 1: But the heavy handed response to the cops of the

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Speaker 1: protests failed to hold the police accountable for misconduct, right,

546
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Speaker 1: eviscerating the relationship between the Baltimore police and the public.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore State Attorney Marion Moseley laid murder charges on the

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Speaker 1: officers involved, and Baltimore's police union closed ranks and response,

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Speaker 1: eviscerating the relationship between the police and politicians, and serious

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Speaker 1: scandals at the City Hall and the state's attorney offers

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Speaker 1: and the failure of Moseley's charges to result in convictions,

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Speaker 1: violence skyrocket. But here come this young brother, Brandon Scott,

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Speaker 1: young black man. Right, he's a former city council member. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's been a long observer of the violence, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And before he became the mayor in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, then he implemented what he's calling a comprehensive

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Speaker 1: three pillar approach.

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Speaker 2: Right. The first pillar is called public health approach to violence. Right.

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Speaker 1: The second pillar is community engagement and interagency coordination.

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Speaker 2: Right. The third pillar is evaluation and accountability. Right.

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Speaker 1: So, like I said in the beginning, it starts with

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Speaker 1: the community, all right. So check this out again from

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Speaker 1: the Guardian. Against Baltimore's police budget topping a half a

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Speaker 1: billion dollars, the largest police budget per capital of any

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Speaker 1: large city in the USA. The political establishment gave its

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Speaker 1: new millennial mayor room to experiment with fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: of Washington's money. So they took that budget that was

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Speaker 1: a half a billion, gave him fifty million.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: And since trust was like solo, the first step was

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Speaker 1: to get everybody aboard. So he took that money the cops,

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Speaker 1: the hospitals, the jails, the school the social services, the

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Speaker 1: State Department, the Feds, and he appointed this dude named

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Speaker 1: Richard Worley, Oh who is the city police Commissioner in

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Speaker 1: June twenty twenty three. Wesley was a lifelong Baltimore officer,

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Speaker 1: picked in part to bring the rank and file in

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Speaker 1: line with Scott's anti violence program. Scott emphasizes partnerships as

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Speaker 1: an important.

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Speaker 2: Part of the process.

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Speaker 1: Now, he took other federal grants and he gave the

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Speaker 1: money to the people that actually do the services. He

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Speaker 1: ain't just keeping for them. Now here's the thing cuts

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Speaker 1: my mouth to say it. But if you are going

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Speaker 1: to stop violence in the situation that we live in,

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Speaker 1: the cops got to be involved. Because most of the

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Speaker 1: time the cops are the problem. It's always punishment in

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Speaker 1: prison with them. They only come with a stick when

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Speaker 1: something already happened. So you got to get them on

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Speaker 1: the table, and you got to get them at the

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Speaker 1: table with somebody that's going to be willing to be

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Speaker 1: held accountable.

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Speaker 2: And remember that's pillar three.

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Speaker 1: Now, Now, far being from me, because I don't live

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, would I ever shield for no mayor like this.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what the data say is and

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Speaker 1: I got family in Baltimore. Now, what Scott said is again,

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Speaker 1: we focus on the individuals and groups that are most

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Speaker 1: likely to be the victim or perpetuator of violence.

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Speaker 2: We go to them. Listen, they knock on doors.

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Speaker 1: There's a social worker that comes to the door with

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Speaker 1: a letter from the mayor that says, yo, you're trying

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Speaker 1: to be a part of this, and their only targeting

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Speaker 1: kids are families that they know got low poverty rates

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Speaker 1: and high chances of crime. You looking for the people

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Speaker 1: who are most likely going to fall a victim, to

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Speaker 1: perpetuating it or receiving it.

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Speaker 2: Because remember how we started this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Before you think we don't care about crime, we're the

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Speaker 1: ones that it's happening too. So he says, quote Curtis Palomero,

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Speaker 1: who runs the youth violence prevention nonprofit RAKA in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: it says, we're talking about young people with the elevated risk.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about the young person that says FU

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Speaker 1: to his teacher or tells his mom and dad are

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Speaker 1: ground while he don't want to do XYZ. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about kids who have literally probably have two tracks jail

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Speaker 1: and death. He knocks on the door while the cop

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Speaker 1: is carrying met the mayor's letter, and as often as

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Speaker 1: not he has to knock on a dozen doors before

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Speaker 1: he gets a chance. Why cause niggas don't trust the cops, right,

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Speaker 1: Why would they? But since there's no single thing that

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Speaker 1: is preventative, trust must be built right moving on in

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Speaker 1: this article, there are two types of people that are

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Speaker 1: most vulnerable, nasays, the people in their early twenties who

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Speaker 1: are feuding over trivial matters someone looked at me wrong,

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Speaker 1: somebody bumped in as somebody right, or other people who

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Speaker 1: are in the drug game more around. The violence that

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Speaker 1: has to do with other criminal enterprises are so much

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Speaker 1: more calculated. Critically, it's not every young person with Instagram

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Speaker 1: beef and not every stand down neighborhood street dealer that

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Speaker 1: rises to their attention. The risk factors creates a reasonable, articulatable,

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Speaker 1: legally defensible basis for contact, which means you're not being

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Speaker 1: hunted by the cops.

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Speaker 2: Do you understand the piece?

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Speaker 1: I would have felt it I known that since I

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Speaker 1: wasn't involved in none of this shit, they may not

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Speaker 1: be coming up to me. You've already calmed my nervous

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: system down right. There's another story about a young man

638
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: who was recovering after a gunshot and in this Life

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00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: coach Nigga from a youth advocate program approached him and

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Speaker 1: Jalen said, this is This man said, he just han't

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Speaker 1: been in the wrong part of West Baltimore at the

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Speaker 1: wrong time. Now, most of us who grew up like this,

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Speaker 1: that's true. He wasn't especially receptive to this first life

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Speaker 1: coach at all.

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Speaker 2: He said, I thought there was a catch.

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Speaker 1: I thought I'd have to pay them back in the future,

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Speaker 1: because when the police do it to you, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it is.

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Speaker 2: You got to pay them back later.

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Speaker 1: But this person is funded by the city to just

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Speaker 1: be a life coach. I ain't asking you to snitch

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Speaker 1: on nobody. I ain't asking you to make yourself put

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Speaker 1: yourself in danger. Outside is somebody who under stands what

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Speaker 1: it's like to live out here. This life coach says,

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Speaker 1: it's about follow up. Today, they might say get the

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Speaker 1: fuck out of here. Tomorrow, they might be wanting some services.

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Speaker 1: It might be something tragic that happens and they need change.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, my mother's not smiling no more. I

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00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: need a way to pay my mama's life bill. Can

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Speaker 1: you help me with that? Here's what's crazy. Yes, I

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00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: can help you with that. We have services. Why because

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00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the other departments. Right on the law side,

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Speaker 1: here's a prevention. They dismissed thirty four percent of non

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Speaker 1: violent charges. I was a non violet offender. It was graffiti.

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Speaker 1: Just make me pay the fine. Like it's fine. I

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Speaker 1: got pay the fine. I don't care. Right, you have

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Speaker 1: like a nickel bag of weed in your pocket. You're

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Speaker 1: looking at five years. The shit is not working. That's

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Speaker 1: over policing. But if the district attorney look at you

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Speaker 1: and say, nigga's some weed man, get the fuck out

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Speaker 1: of here, Go take care of your mama. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk to this brother over here.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna help get your plumber's license. Oh so there's

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Speaker 1: job placement. Right.

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Speaker 2: There's all that, and then finally evaluation.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you got a carrying adult, You got services available

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Speaker 1: to you. And you know if somebody in this program,

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Speaker 1: if any of these law enforcement, these city people act

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Speaker 1: the fuck up, there are consequences. That is Pillar three.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna link all this stuff to you. There's a

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Speaker 1: four year evaluation, and you will get fucking fired. If

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Speaker 1: I know that if you treat me right, something gonna

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Speaker 1: happen to you, I might think a little different. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the heat stopped working, so my heat start working. But

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Speaker 1: if my stomach is full, and the bills are paid,

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Speaker 1: and there's after school programs that go to and I

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Speaker 1: know these old people around me aren't gonna trust me

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Speaker 1: when I tell them stuff when I'm dealing with situations

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Speaker 1: that may or may not be out of my control.

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Speaker 1: When I got big homei'es pressing me to do this,

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Speaker 1: and there's somebody I could trust that I could talk

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Speaker 1: to that's not gonna turn me into a snitch. Because

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Speaker 1: you ain't telling the cops just to get them to

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Speaker 1: give me information about a crime that happened over there.

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Speaker 1: That's not what's happening right now. You are trying to

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Speaker 1: prevent the violence. You're not trying to catch a criminal.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to prevent criminality, and it's at a fifty

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Speaker 1: year low. But sure, go ahea and send a national guard.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Listen, obviously this ain't the system. I won't but it's

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Speaker 1: the system we got.

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Speaker 2: This is not ideal.

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Speaker 1: You would never see me shill for no police department

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Speaker 1: or mayor, but cities like Philly in Baltimore are proven. Nigga,

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Speaker 1: If you just care and you spend money on trusted

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Speaker 1: sources and provide resources, the crime it drops itself.

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Speaker 2: Seems so simple. But you know what do we know?

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Speaker 1: We're just black people and all this tells me what

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Speaker 1: we already knew. It was never about crime, ever, because

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Speaker 1: there's research that shows what actually works in reducing crime.

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Speaker 1: What this about? You just think we're you and you're

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Speaker 1: a white supremacist. You just want a white world and

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Speaker 1: you think it's cool to have military in our streets.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. You didn't invent that. You was

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Speaker 2: in Trump.

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Speaker 1: You know how I know you ain't invent that because

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Speaker 1: there's an amendment in the Constitution that says that we

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Speaker 1: don't want to live in a world where the military

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Speaker 1: is on every corner.

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Speaker 2: But apparently you do. It's clearly not about crime. It

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Speaker 2: could happen. Here is a production of cool Zone Media.

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