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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome man, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Jmart what's up man? How you doing? Pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Interesting Saturday? Yeah, first week?

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Speaker 1: And well you do without football? Jason Martin? I watched basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, watch a decent amount of college hoops. So watch

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Speaker 3: a little bit of the prime time NBA stuff. I've

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Speaker 3: found a way to stay sports occupied today.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this one. I obviously miss college football.

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Speaker 1: Goes out saying I don't think I really I watch

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Speaker 1: a lot of college basketball. I don't think you realize

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Speaker 1: how quickly games go by in college basketball and even

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Speaker 1: basketball in general until you go from college football to

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Speaker 1: college basketball, because it's like college football, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you get your Neon Eastern game, then you get your

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Speaker 1: three thirty game. I know we're not on air till eleven,

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Speaker 1: but by the time we get through that like second game,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of sort of time for me to come

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Speaker 1: into studio and you know, you kind of start paying

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Speaker 1: attention to the late seven thirty ABC game whatever, just

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Speaker 1: breaking it up because college basketball, man, it's like one

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Speaker 1: game after the other after the other, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to break it down. But like you know,

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Speaker 1: Kansas Houston was at what four pm Eastern one Pacific,

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Speaker 1: and that feels like it was like, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was seven hours ago, but it feels like it was

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Speaker 1: like two days ago.

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Speaker 3: And it was Marquee like that was the other thing,

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Speaker 3: like today was just a great day if you're a

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Speaker 3: college basketball fan or just a sports fan, because you

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Speaker 3: just had all these gigantic matchups all across the country.

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Speaker 3: There seemed to be something to watch, including even in

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Speaker 3: a Gonzaga Saint Mary's game that's on right now.

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Speaker 1: That's always usually an inch ball game, always an interesting ballgame.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I will say this, Jason, even though obviously,

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Speaker 1: look we're you know, eight days away from the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl now, by the way, you and I will be

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Speaker 1: on post Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So I'm pumped for that. Like when when I got

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Speaker 3: asked to do that, I was like, I think I

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Speaker 3: said yes before the sentence, before the question mark arrived

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Speaker 3: in the sentence, I'm like, yeah, absolutely, I'll do that.

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Speaker 1: Show zeroed out. Yeah. So, not to look too far ahead,

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Speaker 1: but J Martin and I will be on in our

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Speaker 1: normal Saturday shift next week. Ernie Spanner and Chris Plank

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Speaker 1: will be on during the game, and then J Martin

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Speaker 1: and I will follow Arnie and Plank at eleven pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern Time next Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday. So that's exciting,

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Speaker 1: and I will say we got a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of football to get to over the next three hours.

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Speaker 1: Coaching carousel starting to ramp up. I know we're a

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Speaker 1: few days removed from those NFCAFC Conference championship games, but

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Speaker 1: do want your take on some of the Dan and

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Speaker 1: Campbell stuff, the Lamar Jackson stuff. I don't want to spend,

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Speaker 1: you know, a ton of time on this, Jason, but

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Speaker 1: I do think it is worth kind of just touching

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Speaker 1: on what you just mentioned, which is primetime Nbay. You know,

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Speaker 1: you and I came on last week right after or

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Speaker 1: shortly thereafter a really good Lakers Warriors game, but also

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Speaker 1: the Joe Lmban mess now that has obviously taken a

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Speaker 1: new turn over the last couple of days. But I

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Speaker 1: bring it up because Lakers did play the late night

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Speaker 1: game at Madison Square Garden. Lakers win one thirteen to

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Speaker 1: one oh five. Lebron James back in the lineup after

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Speaker 1: missing the game Thursday night in Boston. On top of

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Speaker 1: Bron of Lebron, Anthony Davis did play as well tonight. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's it's January or it's early February. The Lakers aren't

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Speaker 1: playing very well right now. They're constantly in the news

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Speaker 1: for all the wrong reasons. But why I bring it

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Speaker 1: up is because you know this pseudo annual Lebron sort

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Speaker 1: messages through social media. It has happened again this This

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Speaker 1: is obviously prior to tonight's game, but I bring it

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Speaker 1: up because earlier this week, for people who missed the

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Speaker 1: out on this season. Then there's rumors, hey, could he

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Speaker 1: potentially be traded, which his agent Rich Paul had to

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Speaker 1: basically saying, yeah, Lebron will not be traded. But then

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Speaker 1: today before the game is where it got interesting, where

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Speaker 1: Lebron obviously does have a player opt out after this year,

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Speaker 1: he can leave Los Angeles if he so desires. Well,

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Speaker 1: he was asked about it before the game and basically said,

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Speaker 1: you know, long story short is that you know? Basically

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Speaker 1: he was asked ahead of the Lakers game if he

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Speaker 1: knows what he will do with that player option, he said, no,

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Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. Two letters, one word. No.

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Speaker 1: I know the Lebron so social media? Will he won't he?

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Speaker 1: What does it all mean? I know it gets a

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Speaker 1: little bit exhausting for all of us in the media jays,

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Speaker 1: but what did you make of another week where he

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Speaker 1: is clearly unhappy, he is clearly using social media. But

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Speaker 1: the difference between this year and the last couple years

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers, he can actually get out of that contract,

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Speaker 1: remember bat And I know I'm going along here, but

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Speaker 1: just trying to give the audience context. When he was

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Speaker 1: with Cleveland, he kept signing those one year deals with

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Speaker 1: one year options, so he could have some flexibility. In

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, he has basically been signed long term, couldn't

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Speaker 1: really get out of the deal, but now he can,

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Speaker 1: and so I thought it was interesting. I thought some

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Speaker 1: of the social media stuff was interesting, and of course

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Speaker 1: him being in New York, he got asked a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, especially because he sent out another tweet with

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Speaker 1: a statue of liberty emoji yesterday. What do you make

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Speaker 1: of all the lebron chaos. I don't know what to

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Speaker 3: I'm exhausted by it, but I mean, he's not the

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Speaker 3: this new cycle finds us every couple of.

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Speaker 1: Years, and I don't know how it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's doing is he's trying to

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Speaker 3: do even more for him than they have currently tried

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Speaker 3: to do with some of the moves that they made

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Speaker 3: at mid season last year. I mean, they're sitting there

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Speaker 3: at five hundred. Now they're a game over five hundred

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Speaker 3: because they've beat the Red Hot next tonight. So I

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Speaker 3: don't know what any of that means. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what Lebron is.

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Speaker 1: Angling for here.

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Speaker 3: He's a guy that has about as much power as

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Speaker 3: any athlete in the world, it seems like, and has

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Speaker 3: this madness. We'll eventually find out. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: how to speculate about it, because again, we've seen this

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Speaker 3: go in seventeen different directions in the past when there

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Speaker 3: have been these kind of cryptic, weird, strange sort of things.

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Speaker 3: But when the bloom starts to fall off the roads

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Speaker 3: and manufacture more, he usually does and a lot of

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Speaker 3: it is to try motivate his current team. But maybe

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Speaker 3: he is trying to.

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Speaker 1: Get out of there. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I really just again, I just kind of see it,

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Speaker 3: and I'm tired every time because I've seen it so

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Speaker 3: many times, and it feels like we have had this

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Speaker 3: discussion across radiotelevision and in every bar in this country

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Speaker 3: for fifteen years now about what is Lebron going to

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Speaker 3: do next?

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Speaker 1: Do you think for people, you know, listen, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're breaking you know, new ground by talking about

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Speaker 1: the fact that listening, he's about to turn forty years old.

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Speaker 1: You know he obviously he still has two kids that

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Speaker 1: you know, at USC We'll see if he ends up

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Speaker 1: going pro after this year. I only bring it up,

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Speaker 1: do you He's clearly frustrated. Again, as you said, this

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Speaker 1: go back last year he was trying I forget all

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Speaker 1: Rob Blinka because he got rid of Westbrook. He ended

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Speaker 1: up on the fly, rebuilding that roster and they went

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Speaker 1: to the Western Conference finals. Do you see a scenario

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Speaker 1: basically since that mid season tournament, they have not been

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Speaker 1: looks at an option outside of Los Angeles? Because I

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Speaker 1: guess what I would say, and maybe this is why listen,

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Speaker 1: anytime Lebron does this stuff, it's always gonna make headlines,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like this one I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: I even if as bad as it is, Like, I

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Speaker 1: just don't see the scenario where he's leaving Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: His business is there, his family is there, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's beyond the point in his career where like

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Speaker 1: he's not going to you know, wherever. I can't think

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Speaker 1: Well that's where it got interesting today was because of

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Speaker 1: course he was asked about the Knicks and this one.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pin on him because I don't

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Speaker 1: think he purposely was, you know, but but he did say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've thought about playing for that, Like like,

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Speaker 1: do you anyway I'm going way too him? Do you

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Speaker 1: think there's no Look, I totally agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: think you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he will leave, Like if I just

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Speaker 3: had to go gut feeling, I think he's gonna finish

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Speaker 3: his career in LA.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, could I see a scenario where you go

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Speaker 3: somewhere else?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Because at this point. You know, I would believe almost

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Speaker 3: anything about most any athlete, because we've seen guys that

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Speaker 3: not being there in the end. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: he could. I just don't I agree. I don't see

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Speaker 3: the I don't I don't see that pathway in front

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Speaker 3: actually as interested in getting out as he is trying

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Speaker 3: to use whatever power and leverage he has to try

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Speaker 3: and force the Lakers to do something else that he wants.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that something is, but there's got

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Speaker 3: to be something before the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting one. Obviously, he's not getting traded

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Speaker 1: to you know, listen, we go through these social media

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Speaker 1: cycles all the time. I get it, but I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't really see any scenario in which he doesn't

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Speaker 1: end his career in LA Like I think all this

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Speaker 1: stuff makes for fun social media headlines and all that,

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Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I mean, these

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Speaker 1: guys still have families, like he has his businesses, and

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Speaker 1: you know, he's forty years old. So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: a silver platter, and eventually, with the talent they have

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Speaker 3: on that offense, they're gonna beat you.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened really quick. You mentioned it,

436
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Speaker 1: and I think it's worth noting. I don't think anybody

437
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Speaker 1: thinks it's easy to get back to the conference championship game,

438
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I look at it, and it's almost like

439
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Speaker 1: what I've said about the Cowboys is like why I

440
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: would have moved off Mike McCarthy is because your windows

441
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Speaker 1: kind of right now when a lot of those guys

442
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Speaker 1: are on rookie contracts, the Detroit Lions, it's like their

443
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: whole team except for Jared Goff is on a rookie

444
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Speaker 1: contract right now, like Aden Hutchinson, Jamiir Gibbs, Sam Laporta.

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Speaker 1: So on the one hand, you still have a little

446
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Speaker 1: bit more time. Your team is super young, but Jared

447
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Speaker 1: Goff is also on a reasonable contract only for one

448
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Speaker 1: more year, and then the presumption is probably that you're

449
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Speaker 1: gonna pay him. So that's just my thought, is you

450
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Speaker 1: just like man, I just you feel bad and and

451
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Speaker 1: you know anyone can get back, and they're probably uniquely

452
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Speaker 1: built to do it because they're so young. But it's

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Speaker 1: also the Detroit Lions, and and obviously nothing is guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: especially for that franchise. It's just like, man, I've.

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Speaker 3: Feeled that division's gonna be harder next yep. I mean

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Speaker 3: that just that by itself, we didn't have to look

457
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Speaker 3: at the rest of the conference, but just look, I mean,

458
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Speaker 3: the Packers ain't going anywhere. The Bears, they have Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll get to that later on

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Speaker 3: the show, and the Vikings. The Vikings may have their

461
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Speaker 3: quarterback back or they're gonna have a different circumstance there,

462
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Speaker 3: but we know they can be a dangerous team. What

463
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Speaker 3: they did this year, that's gonna be a much taller

464
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Speaker 3: order and maybe a much better NFC. Certainly the potential

465
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Speaker 3: for it, because you have some new coaching and you

466
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Speaker 3: have some moves that are yet to be made, and

467
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Speaker 3: we got to see what happens in the draft. But

468
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Speaker 3: it is as good as I think Detroit can be

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Speaker 3: next year. They've still they're still gonna have to go

470
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Speaker 3: win a bunch more games to get back to the

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Speaker 3: spot that they in a lot of ways just threw away.

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Speaker 3: And they also threw away a really nice game from

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff. He played really well on the road in

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Speaker 3: that game in a difficult spot against a solid football team,

475
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Speaker 3: and it didn't matter, because boy did they come unraveled

476
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Speaker 3: in the last eight nine minutes of that game.

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Speaker 1: They did. And yeah, you can't help but feel bad.

478
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Speaker 1: You can't help but feel bad. But also, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of glad that it feels like most of

480
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Speaker 1: America kind of got to the same page of like

481
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Speaker 1: we like Dank And by the way, I think I

482
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Speaker 1: think most everyone one had the same take as you did, Jason,

483
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Speaker 1: which is like, we all like Dan Camp absolutely, like

484
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: he's so easy to root for, but it doesn't mean

485
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Speaker 1: that he's immune to criticism. And it's like, and oh,

486
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Speaker 1: by the way, just because you're criticizing him, doesn't mean

487
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Speaker 1: that you think that he's the worst coach ever and

488
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Speaker 1: that everything he's done is wrong and blah blah blah

489
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Speaker 1: and this and that. So Troy lyons brutal loss and

490
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Speaker 1: see what happens from there. Jasey, you want to you

491
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Speaker 1: want to do a little uh pivot and talk little

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams coming up since we're doing NFC North. Sure,

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Speaker 1: all right, interesting week for Caleb Williams. We'll discuss all

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Speaker 1: that next first time. Tonight, though, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: news desk Steve de Seger. I got a big light

496
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Speaker 1: right in front of me, so I can't see you,

497
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Speaker 1: but I hope you're doing well right now.

498
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Speaker 2: There was no light for most of the day and

499
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Speaker 2: evening in the studio. There is now there's some sort

500
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Speaker 2: of city work going on next to us. But by

501
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Speaker 2: the way, with Detroit schedule for next year, I have

502
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Speaker 2: read that they have eight playoff opponents for next year's schedule,

503
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Speaker 2: including at Dallas again at San Francisco. I'm glad you

504
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Speaker 2: guys brought up that the Lions at the end of

505
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Speaker 2: the first half at San Francisco did not go for

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Speaker 2: it on fourth down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Regular season, they went for it on fourth a lot

509
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Speaker 2: and made it over fifty percent of the time. In

510
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: the wildcard game, by the way, they had that fourth

511
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: down at the two, went for it, got a touchdown

512
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Speaker 2: pass divisional they had a fourth and goal at the one,

513
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Speaker 2: late third quarter touchdown. They won a one score game.

514
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Speaker 2: The reason they beat the Rams in the wildcard game

515
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Speaker 2: by a point. The Rams kicked three short field goals.

516
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Speaker 2: Lions went three for three on red zone TD, so

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Speaker 2: I get all of it in his mind, but my goodness.

518
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Speaker 1: It was something. It was something.

519
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Speaker 2: And you can't finish the Lions conversation about last weekend

520
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Speaker 2: without saying, Okay, you're about to get close with over

521
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Speaker 2: a minute to go and you burn a time out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. That was maybe even worse. Yeah, because

523
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Speaker 1: you and I were on I was actually filling in

524
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Speaker 1: for Mark Willard and you and I were on air.

525
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Speaker 1: De Sager and I remember being like, well, they still

526
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Speaker 1: have all three time out but they're running the ball.

527
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: I was like, is somebody injured? Am I missing something?

528
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Speaker 2: And then third and goal at the one running play

529
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: lost a couple yards, had to burn their first to

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Speaker 2: the three timeouts, and then guess what, even if you

531
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Speaker 2: do score a touchdown, San Francisco doesn't need a first

532
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Speaker 2: down in the final minute, and then they could take

533
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Speaker 2: a knee at the end and your season is over.

534
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Speaker 2: So that's how things ended. So the Detroit Lions, remember

535
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Speaker 2: they had a crushing playoff loss. They showed the film

536
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Speaker 2: of at San Francisco nineteen eighty three, and then this

537
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: crushing lofts blowing the big halftime lead. So yet again,

538
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: the Detroit franchise loses a playoff game on the road,

539
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Speaker 2: oh and twelve on the road in the postseason since

540
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Speaker 2: the merger in nineteen seventy. As for the NFL news tonight,

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury will not be offensive coordinator for the Raiders

542
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: after all, after contract talks broke down. He could go

543
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Speaker 2: to Washington now. The Commanders today formally announced Dan Quinn

544
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Speaker 2: as their new head coach. He was defensive coordinator in

545
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Speaker 2: Dallas for three years. The Bucks official hired offensive coordinator

546
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen from Kentucky. The Dolphins new defensive coordinator is

547
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Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver from Baltimore. NASCAR was due to start on

548
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Speaker 2: Fox TV tomorrow night with the clash at the LA Coliseum,

549
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: but rains coming to LA Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, so

550
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Speaker 2: they ran the race tonight on FS one free admission.

551
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: Danny Hamlin the winner, Kyle Busch finished second. As for

552
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Speaker 2: the NBA, there were six games total, and the Lakers

553
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Speaker 2: in the primetime National TV game one at New York

554
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Speaker 2: one thirteen, one oh five, ending the next three nine

555
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Speaker 2: game winning streak. Meanwhile, there were three late games the

556
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Speaker 2: Lakers win Milwaukee coming back and Cleveland winning again. Cavs

557
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: have won five straight. They won at San Antonio one

558
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: to seventeen, one oh one. That Milwaukee game. They were

559
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Speaker 2: down twenty four at Dallas after the first quarter and

560
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: beat the MAVs one twenty nine to one seventeen. Because

561
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Speaker 2: they have Giannis, Antennacumbo forty eight points, Tennisis one turnover,

562
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Speaker 2: Luka Donzich in the loss forty points, eleven assists, nine turnovers.

563
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Speaker 2: Sacramento got forty one points from Daron Fox in a

564
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Speaker 2: win at Chicago. Brooklyn picked up forty points from Cam

565
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Speaker 2: Thomas in a win at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Golden State.

567
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Speaker 2: Steph Curry scored sixty points, but at the end of

568
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Speaker 2: regulation he missed a short shot off the glass and

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Speaker 2: the Warriors lost in overtime at Atlanta one forty one

570
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Speaker 2: to one thirty four. To college hoops in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina beat Duke Kansas over Houston, Tennessee one at

572
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Speaker 2: Kentucky tonight, Baylor beat number twelve Iowa State. Cincinnati was

573
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Speaker 2: a winner at number fifteen Texas Tech and San Diego

574
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Speaker 2: State on Fox TV today at home beat number seventeen

575
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Speaker 2: Utah State.

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Speaker 1: As for late Night hoops.

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Speaker 2: They've started the second half at Pauley Pavilion and Oregon

578
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: leads UCLA thirty eight thirty five halftime at Gonzaga Bulldogs

579
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Speaker 2: up thirty four to thirty three. On Saint Mary's Back

580
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Speaker 2: to You.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Saturday Ara Towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tire Studios.

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Speaker 1: Jason H. First of all, can I can I throw

584
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Speaker 1: you yet another curveball? So I know it, just said

585
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: to Caleb Williams and we'll get to it in a minute.

586
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I want to hit on something that we were gonna

587
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: talk about last week but we didn't have a chance to,

588
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: but de Seger just kind of reminded me of it.

589
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: So Steph goes for sixty tonight. Okay, Steph's awesome. We

590
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: all love him. You know, he's an Alzheimer or whatever

591
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: I do feel like. And this is on the heels

592
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Speaker 1: of Luca going for seventy plus last week, Joe l Embeid,

593
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: who certainly had a busy couple weeks, going for seventy plus,

594
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Speaker 1: Anthony Town going for sixty two, and yeah, I'll just

595
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Speaker 1: be honest. The it's almost to me, like I remember,

596
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, like when I was a kid, like if

597
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: a pitcher threw a no hitter, it was all that

598
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: led Sports Center like Nolan Ryan another no hitter, seventh

599
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Speaker 1: of his career, Da, Da da, And then it was

600
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: like we had the the steroid era, and then we

601
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: had the era where like all the rules got changed

602
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: to favor the pitchers, and then we just started getting

603
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: like five six no hitters a year and it was

604
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Speaker 1: just like, Okay, it's kind of cool whatever. That's how

605
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: I feel about NBA scoring right now. It's like, you know,

606
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Speaker 1: like if a dude got sixty, I feel like six

607
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: seven years ago it stopped the world, and now it's

608
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Speaker 1: just like with the way the game has changed, the

609
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: way the rules are. This isn't an anti NBA rant,

610
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: but it's just like seeing a guy go for sixty

611
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: like kind of does nothing for me. Seventy's kind of

612
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not the guy

613
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: that's like, oh, you know whatever, but like just doesn't move.

614
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Speaker 3: The needle from me like it used to sixty definitely

615
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: feels closer to forty five to me now, something like

616
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Speaker 3: that forty five to fifty I mean, it's still impressive,

617
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: but it's not stopped the presses impressive.

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Speaker 1: Like it once was.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it other than

620
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna sound like the oldest guy that's ever

621
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Speaker 3: lived at this point, but I've quietly argued, and I

622
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: think I've actually done it on this show and on

623
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: other shows through the years. I've argued that it might

624
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: be time to just erase the three point line. Wow,

625
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the problems right there. I mean,

626
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Speaker 3: it really is. I mean, Karl Anthony Town's had sixty two. Well,

627
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns is a great outside shoot. We already

628
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: know what Luca can do. We already knew what stuph

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Speaker 3: can do. He had sixty and I don't even I

630
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: don't know what the ratio was, but I know what

631
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Speaker 3: he can do from three, So I'm sure he took

632
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Speaker 3: his share. That's that's been the thing, and that's one

633
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: of the things that actually drew me away from college

634
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: basketball a halful of years ago.

635
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Speaker 1: The I mean, I used to be a lot more

636
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: die hard about it than I am now.

637
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Speaker 3: It's because I think it was the Villanova team with

638
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: de Vincenzo. Oh yeah, that won the championship. That was

639
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: just up and down the floor every time, just chuck

640
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: to three, and they made a lot of them. I'm

641
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: not suggesting that they shouldn't have been doing that, but

642
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: that bored me to tears. And the three ball used

643
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: to be my favorite thing in all basketball. But that's

644
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: when it was sort of rare and like Dave Seeger

645
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: at Oklahoma had seven in a game and it was

646
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: like the most amazing thing anyone had ever seen in

647
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: college basketball at the time, back in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: Like it was just different. And now it's everybody shoots them.

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Speaker 3: They shoot them all the time, whether they have any

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Speaker 3: business doing it or not. I think it's made basketball worse,

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Speaker 3: and it does. It feels like I'm the oldest man

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Speaker 3: alive at this point with this take, because I know

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Speaker 3: a lot of people have said this through the years,

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Speaker 3: but I just think the three is so exploited at

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Speaker 1: Well, what I would say is, and I actually think,

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Speaker 1: weirdly unintentionally, it's kind of a nice playoff of the

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell analytics thing. Is like, you know, analytics, I

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Speaker 1: get the value of the three pointer, but I think

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Speaker 1: like anything else, it can go too far, you know,

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Speaker 1: and like you know, like you said, jacking up threes

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Speaker 1: fast break, because like analytically it's the right play. It's

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Speaker 1: don't know, I just I don't know if I'm so

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Speaker 3: I mean back it up to thirty feet or something.

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Speaker 3: I mean make it so that it's actually difficult, because guys,

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Speaker 3: I think Steph may have really changed it Shu in

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Speaker 3: many ways, because I think there's a lot of kids

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Speaker 3: out there now who are practicing from thirty that used

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Speaker 3: to practice from twenty two to twenty three, and now

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Speaker 3: they're pulling up from way beyond. But the other the three,

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Speaker 3: the three itself just doesn't feel like it's an impressive

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Speaker 3: shot to make anymore. I assume every time I every

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Speaker 3: time one's thrown up, I'm like, it's either gonna be

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Speaker 3: good or it's gonna be close, especially in the NBA,

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Speaker 3: and that that has grown increasingly dull and boring to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting, like the growth of the game

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Speaker 1: where and this is like the most cliche talking point ever,

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Speaker 1: it's not interesting or new, but but just the how

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Speaker 1: ten six eleven seven feet obviously, let alone in the

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Speaker 1: NBA that can all shoot threes. And it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the example that everybody always uses, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: the right one is like Roy Hibbert went from like well,

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Speaker 1: I mean he literally went from like an All Star

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Speaker 1: to out of the league in like three years with

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Speaker 1: no major injuries, no major nothing. But but it was

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Speaker 1: just how quickly the game changed. And and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't you know, I like, I don't necessarily want I

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Speaker 1: don't think you should eliminate the three. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's the worst idea to move the ball back. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not like I don't want to again, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to sound like like the old guy either. I

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Speaker 1: just think that like these sixty point games just do

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Speaker 1: nothing for me because it's like, I don't know, we

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Speaker 1: see I don't want to say we see one all

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Speaker 1: the time, but just I don't know. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: really move the needle for me like it used to.

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Speaker 1: Steph got sixty tonight. But it wasn't a losing effort.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. What's going to happen there? As some interesting

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Speaker 1: news came out of Chicago this week. That's next. Fox

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Eric Tors Jason Martin

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Speaker 1: brought broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios. I

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Speaker 1: think this was what was actually playing in Dan Campbell's headset,

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Speaker 1: Jason when he decided to go for it on fourth

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Speaker 1: down the other day. Eminem was at one of those

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Speaker 1: on his shirt literally in the middle of the game. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Sorry Detroit, Sorry Chris Purfett. Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason

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Speaker 1: Martin broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios. Let's

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Speaker 1: stick with the NFC nor We didn't really I teased it,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't get a chance to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Interesting week in the NFL Draft circle. Senior Bowl was today,

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Speaker 1: so all kind of the draftnicks kind of got together,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the gms in front office people were

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Speaker 1: kind of mingling with the media, and obviously it led

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Speaker 1: to a very interesting news cycle as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, where we know the Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears will be selecting first overall and what they are

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Speaker 1: going to do with that pick worth noting. Interesting week

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Speaker 1: just from the perspective, I guess, and I didn't catch

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Speaker 1: this entire news cycle, but I guess. Our buddy Colin

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Speaker 1: Cowhurt said that he had heard some stuff about Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams interest in going to Chicago. It was then followed

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Speaker 1: up by Caleb Williams camp reaching out to Colin. He

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Speaker 1: talked about that on a belief his Friday show. But

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Speaker 1: just bring it up because everything that happened in Mobile

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Speaker 1: for the Senior Bowl, it feels as though despite all

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Speaker 1: of the this and that, and despite what Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: dad said during the regular during their season, they did

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Speaker 1: the interview with GQ before the season about would he

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Speaker 1: come back for another year. He's obviously not only in

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Speaker 1: the NBA or NFL draft, excuse me, but also, you know,

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Speaker 1: it looks like Chicago's keeping that pick. It looks like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go Caleb Williams. It's early. Stuff can change.

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Speaker 1: They could trade the pick. We don't know. But it

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Speaker 1: was definitely an interesting week, to say the least in

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams world. What'd you make of the chaos around that, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I found it interesting.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Colin somebody said on Thursday, and

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Speaker 3: then Caleb's camp hit him up pretty quickly to try

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Speaker 3: and quash that or at least to mitigate some.

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Speaker 1: Of the damage that might have come from it.

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Speaker 3: If I'm Chicago, I'm gonna take him anyway unless he's

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Speaker 3: absolutely told me privately that he refuses to play for me.

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Speaker 3: And we've got this whole you know, Eli Manning Philip

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Speaker 3: Rivers thing. We've seen it a few times l way,

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Speaker 3: of course with the Colts back in the day, and

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Speaker 3: so I mean it's it's not entirely unprecedented. But if

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Speaker 3: unless he has said point blank to you, I won't

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Speaker 3: play for you, then I would take him. Unless I

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Speaker 3: have Drake May higher on my board, or if I

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Speaker 3: have somebody higher on my board at quarterback, I don't

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Speaker 3: think you can afford, if you're the Bears, not to

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Speaker 3: draft a quarterback. I really like Justin Fields, but I

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Speaker 3: also think Justin Fields is probably somebody I would move.

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Speaker 3: He's somebody that I would get something back for and

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Speaker 3: I would start the rookie quarterback situation over again. I

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Speaker 3: think that's the biggest thing for Justin Fields is we're

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Speaker 3: getting to where you're gonna have to make.

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Speaker 1: A decision on pay him or not.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be kind of in the he's going to

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Speaker 3: be kind of in the Tutongua Vailoa phase where you're

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Speaker 3: gonna have to make a decision on him. And this

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Speaker 3: is an opportunity where you have a golden chance after

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Speaker 3: having a you know, a little bit of a decent

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Speaker 3: year where you showed some promise and you were able

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Speaker 3: to go win games because it didn't matter because you

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Speaker 3: already possessed the number one pick because of Carolina being

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Speaker 3: as awful as they were. Now you have a chance

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Speaker 3: to go draft a guy that could be your future,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that you can pass that up.

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Speaker 3: With all due respect to Justin Fields, who I think

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Speaker 3: can go somewhere else and succeed. And if you're Bears,

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Speaker 3: you might have to take that risk and say he

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Speaker 3: might go somewhere else and succeed. We like a lot

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Speaker 3: of things about him, Yeah, but I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: sees his ceiling right now. At Caleb Williams level, or

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Speaker 3: maybe even at Drake May's level. I think that the

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Speaker 3: Bears have to draft Caleb or Drake May, one of

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Speaker 1: So I agree, And I think what makes it especially

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Speaker 1: interesting too, is that you also have that top ten

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Speaker 1: but the number one overall pick came from Carolina in

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Speaker 1: what ultimately was the Bryce Young trade. That's the other part, Jason.

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Speaker 1: You can immediately get him a weapon to kind of

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Speaker 1: go with them. And so I'm with you is I

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting kind of the news cycle that

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Speaker 1: came with it. But but you know, and I'll say

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Speaker 1: this too, like I mean, we're gonna talk about Washington

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Speaker 1: in the next hour with dan Quinn. I know Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams is from Washington, but is that really a better option,

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Speaker 1: a better spot than landing in Chicago. So between the

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Speaker 1: top ten pick, between the fact that there aren't a

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Speaker 1: lot of other great options out there, feels like almost

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Speaker 1: a no brainer to me.

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Speaker 3: Jason feels like almost a no brainer. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 3: I definitely agree. I mean, we'll see, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say we're gonna have literal months to

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Speaker 1: NFL where the college college I'm all over the place.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching. I got college basketball on the TV. But

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Speaker 1: and certainly listen, you know Jim Harbaugh had been hired

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Speaker 1: by the Los Angeles Chargers when we were on air

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Speaker 1: last week, Jason, But this week he did give his

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Speaker 1: first press conference. As introductory press conference was just a

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, Lorena, why don't you pull

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Speaker 1: of Jim Harbaugh. Here is what he had to say.

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Speaker 1: The thing that stood out about the first press conference

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Speaker 3: Had one thing I know was Los Angeles, Southern California

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Speaker 3: with respect, talent, effort, and winning and it needs to

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Speaker 3: be multiple, multiple champions.

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Speaker 1: That was Jim Harbaugh and his first press conference. Jason,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into like, you know, will

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Speaker 1: he win multiple Like that's just done. But I guess

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Speaker 1: what I would say is I find this interesting is obviously,

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Speaker 1: look Harball has it's well documented, he's had success every

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Speaker 1: coached in the Super Bowl, all that, But he's also

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Speaker 1: entering a very tough AFC with a division with just

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Speaker 1: an absolute juggernaut of an organization with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes isn't going anywhere. I don't think Andy Reid is

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861
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Speaker 1: very tough conference in the AFC. Aaron, I have no idea.

862
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: I think that what Harball is acknowledging is right. He's

863
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: actually going from one scenario to its exact opposite. He's

864
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: going from the school the one that matters win or

865
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: lose in football, Michigan. We're going to talk about Michigan

866
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: even when they're not great. We're still talking about Michigan

867
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: all the time, and inside the state, everybody's always talking

868
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: about the Michigan football.

869
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: Program as well.

870
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: You're going to the Chargers, where half the time I

871
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: forget that you're not in San Diego.

872
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Any Oh the number of people that I heard over

873
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, Oh, the San Diego Chargers. If

874
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: iired Jim Harbaugh, I'm like, Wow, they've been in LA

875
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: for like seven eight years now. But anyway, I mean

876
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: I literally was talking. I actually sat on the air

877
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: a couple different times now that you mentioned that. I

878
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: talked about how he started his career at the University

879
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: of San Diego, which is true, but it's not relevant

880
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: because they're not in San Diego anymore. Like he has

881
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: coached a lot in California, but he's going to He's

882
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: not going to the Rams where Sean McVay has already

883
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: built something. He's not going to the Dodgers, he's not

884
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: going to the Lakers, he's not going to USC, he's

885
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: not even going to UCLA.

886
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: He's going to the Chargers. And so he's saying what's true.

887
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: He understands that there is a challenge that comes with

888
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: taking this job in making it relevant locally, and to

889
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: do that it is going to require winning on the

890
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: highest level. It's gonna finally exercise the Charger demons of

891
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: decades and years and years past and win a title

892
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: and then come back and compete for multiple championships. I

893
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: think he's saying that. I don't think he's taking a

894
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: dig at the Rams for only having one. I think

895
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: that in general, he is acknowledging what we all know.

896
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: The running joke about when they play at home, are

897
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: they really playing a home game, and.

898
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: Things of that nature.

899
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: I think it's more that, like, if we're going to

900
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: sit here and try to prognosticate what they're gonna do.

901
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't win one when he was in

902
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: San Francisco, but he got awfully close. It's going to

903
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 3: depend on the personnel, the health, the rest of the division.

904
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: You talk about the Chiefs, we know what they are.

905
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: What's Sean Payton gonna do in year two in Denver?

906
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: What's Antonio Pierce's Raiders is going to look like going forward?

907
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of things that we can't

908
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: predict right now. What we can predict is Jim Harbaugh

909
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: at least for a time. I understand the propensity to

910
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: wear out is welcome. But Jim Harbaugh is going to

911
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: coach well because that's what he does. He's going to

912
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: coach well. He's going to make them relevant because of

913
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: his star power. If nothing else, and if his synergy

914
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: in chemistry is right with Justin Herbert and they just

915
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: don't screw up the building process around him, they can

916
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: win a championship. But it ain't going to be easy.

917
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: And I think that Harball. I don't think Harball is

918
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: building expectation. He is acknowledging the obvious, which is I

919
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: am going to a program that's not really relevant and

920
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: I want to change that. It's almost like what he

921
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: did for Stanford. Stanford was irrelevant, he got there, it

922
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: was relevant. It's the same thing with the Chargers Well, and.

923
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: I would even say to a degree with Michigan. I mean,

924
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: Michigan's obviously one of the biggest brands in this sport,

925
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: but they were coming off a five and seven year

926
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: and it had really been about what ten, twelve, fifteen

927
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: years since they had really been relevant in the way

928
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: that Michigan fans kind of think and expect to be now.

929
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: I know, you know mayb maybe it wasn't fifteen year,

930
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe it was about seven or eight. But point being

931
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: is that that brand had fallen on hard times as well.

932
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: And that was something that stood out to me as

933
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: well listening to that press conference, is the understanding of

934
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: what the expectation is in Los Angeles. You know, we

935
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: mentioned Colin Cowhard last step hour, but he says this

936
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: all the time. He's one hundred percent right, is that

937
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: Los Angeles there's just there's there's so much to do

938
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. This isn't Green Bay, this isn't Minnesota,

939
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: which you know, it's kind of it gets kind of cold,

940
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: and you got nothing to do but sit inside and

941
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: watch the vikings on Sunday. Like, there is a lot

942
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: to do there. And and by the way, there's just

943
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot of ways to spend discretionary income. As you

944
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: said USC UCLA, they're both going to the Big ten.

945
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, those schedules are gonna get better. Obviously the

946
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: rams it goes without saying Dodgers, Lakers. You get the point.

947
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: And I thought that part was really interesting was when

948
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: he said something whatever he said to the effect of

949
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Los Angeles expects to have winners, and I'm ready to

950
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: do that. I think the thing that will be interesting

951
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: to me is winning cures all. But I'm curious they're

952
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: gonna win. Is one. Is his brand big enough to

953
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: elevate the Chargers into I guess maybe like a national

954
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: talking point, right, Like every Monday Morning, we're always gonna

955
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys and the Packers and Mahomes and

956
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Brady when he was in the league, and it was

957
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: like we never talked about Tampa and then Brady was there,

958
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: and now we talk about him. We really don't. I

959
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: don't remember people talking about KC very much, even though

960
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: they were pretty good consistently until Mahomes got there Buffalo

961
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Are we gonna be talking about the

962
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers in that way? Are they going to

963
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: be an a block Monday morning time topic with Jim Harbaugh?

964
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: I think they will, and I think to a degree

965
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be in large part because I think

966
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna win a lot more. The only time we

967
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: talked about it was when they got embarrassed with Brandon Staley.

968
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be interesting because I do

969
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: think he is unquestionably going to elevate that brand, certainly nationally,

970
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: and obviously I would expect if the national you know

971
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: stuff comes that I expect locally as well.

972
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's definitely gonna raise their profile. And

973
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: you marry that to Justin Herbert. They have a quarterback

974
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: that's fun to watch that you can market. The problem

975
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: has been it's been a mediocre result with injuries and

976
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: with weird late game decisions and guys that weren't glitz

977
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: and glamor at head coach and all this.

978
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: Now you aren't gonna have that.

979
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: Now you're going to have the a block kind of coach,

980
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: the one that's going to say the thing in the

981
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: press conference or he's going to do the thing during

982
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: the game or whatever it is. Harpball is uniquely captivating.

983
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: You take that and you add to it a pro

984
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: Bowl level quarterback like Justin Herbert. That's why you're gonna

985
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: be there because that becomes an interesting story. Because the

986
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: one thing that's always going to be interesting is if

987
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: you're a contender. And the biggest problem so far for

988
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: the Chargers during Justin Herbert's tenure is top midseason, we

989
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: recognize that they're a pretender, not a contender, and that

990
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 3: may change with Jim Harbaugh.

991
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: Looking at the bigger picture of the AFC. Listen, obviously, respectfully,

992
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: we have learned again this year everything runs through Casey

993
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: and Mahomes, even when it doesn't literally run through Casey

994
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: and Mahomes like it did this year. But when you

995
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: start to look at the second team behind case Buffalo

996
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: hasn't done it. They haven't won the big games that

997
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: matter late in the season. Joe Burrow can he stay healthy.

998
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: He's won the big games when he's been healthy, but

999
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: he isn't always healthy. Trevor Lawrence hasn't really had those moments,

1000
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: except ironically against the Chargers, but it hasn't been consistent.

1001
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I just bring it up because that's the other part

1002
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: that I think is interesting. I think everyone gets so

1003
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: caught up on the KC part of it is like, well,

1004
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to go through KC. You know,

1005
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: multiple championships. You say you want to win multiple championships,

1006
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: you gotta go through KC in the division, in the

1007
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: AFC playoffs, et cetera. But we came into this season

1008
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: talking about how stacked the AFC was, how unbelievable it is,

1009
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: and it still is but there's a lot of teams

1010
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: that are kind of entering next year kind of in

1011
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: prove it mode.

1012
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1013
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: It's like like Buffalo, They're gonna run it back, and

1014
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: everybody knows how I feel about it. I think it's

1015
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: a mistake, but whatever. I think the Baltimore Ravens are

1016
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: now officially in that category. We didn't talk about the

1017
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game last hour, but listen, that was a meltdown.

1018
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't just about Lamar, it was about coaching, it

1019
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: was about abandoning the run game, it was about whatever.

1020
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: But all that great regular season was all for nothing

1021
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: because in the playoffs when it mattered, he came up

1022
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: short again the Bengals. As I said, I don't know.

1023
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting because I think that we

1024
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: we have a perception of the AFC that I think

1025
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: is sort of fair. A lot of really talented quarterbacks,

1026
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: but when you actually look at the on the field

1027
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: results in the game that matters. I do think there

1028
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: is room for the Chargers to obviously move up that

1029
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: hierarchy really quickly.

1030
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's true. You're definitely right

1031
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: about the prove it mode thing. I mean, I said

1032
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: last week when I picked Baltimore that I was going

1033
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: to be stupid doing it. I don't even know if

1034
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: I believed it when I said it, But it's just like,

1035
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, on paper, they do have more talent, but

1036
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: that other team has that quarterback and that's enough. The

1037
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: rest of the conference, as good as they've been, they're

1038
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: all playing during the Jordan era in effect right now

1039
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: in the AFC. I mean, Alan's been great, He's never

1040
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 3: sniffed a Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson never sniffed a Super Bowl.

1041
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: You had Joe Burrow get there one time, and then

1042
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: the next year it looked like he had a shot.

1043
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Cincinnati's the closest, but I think

1044
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: it's wide open. I mean, are the Texans this next

1045
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: year's Lions? Are we going to see them have another

1046
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: good draft? And you know, I mean because that's a

1047
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: large part of what the Lions did this year. They

1048
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: drafted well. They got Gibbs, they got Brian Branch, they

1049
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: got Sam Laporta. I mean, they nailed their first three

1050
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: picks completely. If the Texans do that, maybe the Texans

1051
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: are a team to look at. I think there's some

1052
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: teams that have faded that you're just not so sure.

1053
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, is Aaron Rodgers gonna come back into the

1054
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: Jets going to be something to talk about next year?

1055
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: Yes?

1056
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: But is everybody foolish not to pick Kansas City next

1057
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: year if their brain trust is still the same. Probably.

1058
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's where you are if you

1059
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 3: are Jim Harball looking at the AFC. I do think

1060
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: that they are much better on paper than it seems

1061
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: like they are in practice, especially when it comes to

1062
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: the playoffs, because we've just seen eggs laid way too much, and.

1063
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: It does, it does.

1064
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: It is interesting that it tends to happen a lot

1065
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: against Steve Spagnolo.

1066
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: In that defense. Well, and that's what I was gonna say,

1067
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: is it's easy for me to say, oh, you know,

1068
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: none of these franchises have very many big wins when

1069
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: it matters, and it's like, well, maybe Casey's just freaking awesome.

1070
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: Maybe they're just great.

1071
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe that is part of it too, But I

1072
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: will say, I, listen, it adds another dimension. But I

1073
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: don't see, you know, listen, I couldn't even stay But

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00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: what was it his first three years in San Francisco

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00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: they played in the Conference Championship game. Like obviously, you

1076
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: know see how the brackets break and everything, but I

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00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: don't see any reason why based on the roster that

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00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: he inherits, if he is as good as we think

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna be, I mean, I could literally see them

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Speaker 1: playing to go to Super Bowl next year. I don't

1081
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: know if they will, obviously nobody has that crystal ball,

1082
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: but I think they could. And I think, like I said,

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00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: I do think the AFC right now is a little

1084
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: bit better on paper, as you just said, than maybe

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00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: in practice. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live

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00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,360
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Speaker 1: off air. Coming up, we continue on the NFL coaching

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Speaker 1: carousel and the least inspiring higher of the offseason. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 1: the tierraq dot com studios. Fun couple college hoops games.

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: Fun day at college hoops to say, you're get you

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00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: caught up on all the scores from throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: We got two late ones Ucla. They have slowly turned

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Speaker 1: the corner back. They lead Oregon at home and Gonzaga.

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00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: You know, Jason and Silo early talk college hoops but

1103
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Speaker 1: gets but I'm watching it too. Gonzagama missed the tournament

1104
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: for the first time in pretty much forever. Yeah, they

1105
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: have no real wins of notes. It is interesting. They

1106
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: have a mid February game against Kentucky next week. Kentucky's

1107
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: coming off back to back home losses.

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Speaker 3: They've lost three to three or five.

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Speaker 1: I think three of five. I think it was three

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00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: of four. Yeah, so no, I think it might be

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00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: four of six or something like that. Whatever it is,

1112
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: it's not very good. Yeah, they've lost back to back

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00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: home games. I think the stat I saw was they

1114
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: had they've lost like back to back home games like

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00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: five times in school history, and three times it's been

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: in the last four years. So listen. I like cal Perry,

1117
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: but not going good there. Anyway, speaking of underwhelming coaches,

1118
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: which cal Perry is right.

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Now, let's go to the nation's capital. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know exactly what I took a guess where

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Speaker 3: you were going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't think I was just coming out taking

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Speaker 1: swings at Mike McDonald and Seattle. No, we'll get I

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Speaker 1: hope not.

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Speaker 3: But I felt I felt pretty confident with my guests.

1126
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Speaker 3: But I wanted to throw it out first, just so

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00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 3: you could shut it down if I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Now we're on the same page. Job, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: So I have a lot of thoughts. Okay, and maybe

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Speaker 1: we get to the Ben Johnson aspect of this in

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: a minute. First of all, let me actually ask you

1132
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: that I know that, like I guess, when your team

1133
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: is still in the playoffs, there's weird rules about interviewing

1134
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: and all that. I feel like you kind of need

1135
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: to know if Ben Johnson isn't You can't wait until

1136
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: the Lions are out of the playoffs to know that

1137
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson either isn't taking your job or is going

1138
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: to make exorbitant demands if you do.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the dan Quinn element of it in

1141
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: a minute. But like, let's say the Lions had won,

1142
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: where you gonna wait two more weeks, three more weeks

1143
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: to get shut down by Ben Johnson. I don't know

1144
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: that part I felt like was underratedly not talked about enough.

1145
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: Is like those are kind of the things that you

1146
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: need to know. And I don't know what if it

1147
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: would have changed their hiring process or not. But it

1148
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: felt like he was their guy. We all thought he

1149
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: was their guy, and then he wasn't. I thought that

1150
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: part was weird.

1151
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it feels like a Constellation Prize

1152
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: is what they ended up with at best. But I

1153
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: think I think if you're looking at it from Ben

1154
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: Jonson's perspective, it's just.

1155
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Speaker 1: I'm cool being here.

1156
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: I like the environment here, and I know I'm gonna

1157
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Speaker 3: have opportunities in the future. I'm a hot young name

1158
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna continue to be I stayed here last year,

1159
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay again. You can use the unfinished business

1160
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: thing if you want, But the biggest thing is this.

1161
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: It's like I don't want to go anywhere, but I mean,

1162
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: I am going to throw this out there. If they're

1163
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 3: willing to do this, then of course I'll take it.

1164
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: Not really expecting them to. But it's like, hey, this

1165
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: is what it's gonna cost to get me. I don't

1166
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Speaker 3: really want to go anywhere, but if you, if you'll

1167
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: pony this up, I'll go. And so that's I think

1168
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: that's what it is. I mean, the rules and everything

1169
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Speaker 3: that you're talking about. If you're Washington, he must not

1170
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Speaker 3: have communicated with them that that he wasn't gonna go.

1171
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Speaker 3: I don't imagine that they knew his demands to that degree.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: What they ended up with. They still could have ended

1174
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Speaker 3: up with a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem. So let's get into it. Dan

1176
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Quinn is officially the Commander's next head coach, obviously based

1177
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: on the setup, based on you guessing it, Yes, I

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00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: am one of many that's underwhelmed, and I guess let

1179
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: me say this, Jason, I'm underwhelmed from a number of

1180
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: different perspectives. Kape and I get that dan Quinn made

1181
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and by all accounts, like everybody seems

1182
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: to like like him, respect him, whatever. But it's the

1183
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: combination of let's be honest, older defensive head coach, which

1184
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Pretty sure that's what you

1185
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: just had in Ron RIVERA uh huh. But more than that,

1186
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: Like it just to me like I was sold that

1187
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: this regime, the new ownership and Josh Harris and he's

1188
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: this forward thinking guy, and look Philadelphia seventy six ers

1189
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: and this and that and the other, and it's like

1190
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: this just feels like a mediocre dance night. Like Dan

1191
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: Snyer could have made this high, you know, like I

1192
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: thought it was supposed to be a new era, new ownership,

1193
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: thinking outside the box. We're gonna spend whatever, We're gonna

1194
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: do whatever. There's just nothing even remotely inspiring about this

1195
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: at Algies.

1196
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: I mean, he's fifty three years old. As Dan Quinn,

1197
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: he's forty three and forty two overall. In his career

1198
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: as a head coach, he had two double digit win

1199
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: seasons out of the six that he coached in Atlanta.

1200
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: He was eight and eight, then he went eleven and five.

1201
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: That was the NFC championship year, Then ten and six,

1202
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: then seven and nine, seven and nine, zero to five.

1203
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: We know what he can do as a defensive coordinator,

1204
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: except that the last time we saw his defense, they

1205
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: were getting absolutely annihilated by Jordan Love and the youngest

1206
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: team in the NFL. I agree like I think that

1207
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: when it's a new regime, it feels like if I

1208
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: was if I was a younger coach, It's imagine if

1209
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: I could come bring that franchise back after everything they've

1210
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: been through and be kind of the face of the

1211
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Speaker 3: new generation of Washington football. It feels like it would

1212
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: be appetizing. But I don't know that you have a

1213
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: whole lot of groceries in that cupboard right now. I

1214
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: think the worst thing could happen to Washington. I think

1215
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: that they knew that last year was going to be

1216
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: a super Bowl year, but it was a disaster, Like

1217
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: it just went poorly. The be enemy thing didn't seem

1218
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: to work Rivera really that just went south and hurry.

1219
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: It just Terry McLaurin all of a sudden's on a

1220
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: milk carton like Sam Howe is just not finding him anymore.

1221
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: You don't have a quarterback there, And if you're somebody

1222
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: like Ben Johnson, you're looking at that and you're like, well,

1223
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: why am I going to leave this high powered offense

1224
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: with all these weapons where I'm the bell of the ball.

1225
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: When you're looking around the league at coordinators and young minds,

1226
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: and I've got plenty of time to pick my spot.

1227
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: And you look at that and it's like, well, what's

1228
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: the situation, and you're walking into You're just walking into

1229
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: a team that really underperformed in a bad way last

1230
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: year and may have bigger problems that we don't know

1231
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: about in terms of roster construction, where they find themselves

1232
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: financially and all of that. I did think that it

1233
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: was gonna be more appealing, and I'm sure it is

1234
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 3: without Dan Snyder being there, but I thought it was

1235
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: gonna be a more appealing gig during this cycle than

1236
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: it turned.

1237
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Speaker 1: Out to be. Yeah, And that's that's where I stand too.

1238
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing too that makes it

1239
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: underwhelming for me is, listen, there there was a spot

1240
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: for Dan Quinn. I almost called them dan Dan Campbell,

1241
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: dan Quinn, like there was a spot that made sense.

1242
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where it would have been, doesn't

1243
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: really matter whatever, I mean.

1244
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: It would have been Seattle, Yeah, I guess. I mean,

1245
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 3: I think they did better. I'm not saying they didn't

1246
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: do better, but I'm just saying with this history there, yeah,

1247
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: and he was there when they.

1248
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: Were winning big under Pete Carroll.

1249
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like he was with

1250
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, So why'd you get rid of Pete Carroll?

1251
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: And that's in that That's why and and and the

1252
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: point that I'm gonna make about Washington is is relevant

1253
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: to Seattle, which is why I bring it up. But

1254
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: like the other thing with Washington and this, this is

1255
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: what would concern me is and this is why I'm

1256
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: not a fan of the hire. Besides all of the

1257
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, is on top of the fact that older

1258
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: guy defensive head coach uninspired, not a ton of not

1259
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: a huge track record without Kyle Shanahan as his offensive coordinator.

1260
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: That's the other part. You have the number two pick

1261
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: in the draft, and you're probably taking Drake May. Yeah,

1262
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: And if you're not taking Drake May, you're taking in

1263
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: either Caleb Williams because he felda or you're taking Jayden Daniels.

1264
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: You're taking a quarterback. And it's like, you know, and

1265
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: it goes back to what we talked about so many times,

1266
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: is like I just want, like I don't know if

1267
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Drake May is the guy or not the guy, but

1268
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: I want that poor kid to have the best chance

1269
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: to succeed possible, right, you know, we said it with

1270
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Last segment is like, I don't know if

1271
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Herbert is Patrick Mahomes or even Joe Burrow or whatever,

1272
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: but if he is, we're gonna find out. With Jim Harbaugh,

1273
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: you go on and on down the list, see Jason,

1274
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: I think.

1275
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 3: Of the guys that really struggled though, I think that's

1276
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: the what you don't want to see is him become

1277
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: Josh Rosen, or him become Sam Darnold or him and

1278
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: those guys are the same draft actually, but like you

1279
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: don't want him to become a cautionary tale because he's

1280
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 3: in a rough situation and as a result, his growth

1281
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 3: stunts and he's just never able to get out of

1282
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: second gear and then before long the league has moved

1283
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Speaker 3: past him. That's the one thing I don't want to see.

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Speaker 3: And I would imagine that's kind of where you.

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Speaker 1: Are, Yeah, exactly. And I just and I think if

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Speaker 1: you're in, if you're Washington, I think that's what you

1287
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: have to be thinking about, right, Like, is it's not

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01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: just it's not just you know, I'm bringing an adult

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Speaker 1: into the room, a guy that's well liked, a guy

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Speaker 1: that's well respected. It's like, we're going to draft a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Are we going to put him in the

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: best position to succeed? Now? I know maybe you thought

1293
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: you were getting Ben Johnson. I get that, But is

1294
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: there no other offensive guy that's available? And I don't

1295
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: know who it is? I don't And by the way,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk in a minute about what happened in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: maybe bringing in Cliff Kingsbury. Maybe Dan Campbell really is

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Speaker 1: going to turn the offense over to an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: and we assume right now it's gonna be Cliff Kingsbury.

1300
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Speaker 1: But I think that's my frustration, Jason, is that the

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: focus should should be we're drafting a quarterback. Who is

1302
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: the guy that is going to put him in the

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: best position to succeed, not just next year, but for

1304
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Speaker 1: the next ten years. I'm just not sold Dan Campbell's

1305
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: like I or Dan dan Quinn. Excuse me. I don't

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01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: know if you have anything else to add, But I

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01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: guess that's my biggest takeaway is is is Dan Quinn?

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01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: I keep wanting to say Dan Campbell, Is Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: the guy that's the best guy to put Drake May

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01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: in position to succeed. I just don't know that he is.

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Speaker 3: It depends on what Staffy builds, and that's and that's

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: something we can't quantify yet. But I am let's just

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01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 3: say this, I am skeptical. I will attempt not to

1314
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: be cynical, but I am skeptical that dan Quinn is

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: gonna be there two years from now. Like, I just

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01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: do not think that's gonna be a long I just

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna work. No offense to him, I

1318
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: hope that it does, but that just it's not even

1319
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: that it's uninspired, it's how many people turned you down first.

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Speaker 3: I've heard other people on the network say that during

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Speaker 3: this week, and I can't help but agree.

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: How many people.

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Speaker 3: Turned you down before you got to dan Quinn because

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01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem to make sense considering where you are

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Speaker 3: in the draft picking up a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have him on a rookie deal.

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Speaker 3: You need somebody that can call plays and start firing

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: now with the weapons that you have, and this does

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 3: not set you up to do that unless dan Quinn

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: is bringing in some wonder can at offensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 3: unfortunately Bill O'Brien took the job at a state.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is out of the picture, but uh, Lett,

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Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see what they do with that

1334
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: offensive And I think the other thing is that I

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01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about it in the next segment with

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Speaker 1: Seattle's coach is it's not even just who do you

1337
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: bring in? It's are you going to give that guy

1338
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: rain to do what he thinks is best with the offense.

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Speaker 1: So Fox Sports Radio errators Jason Martin broadcasting Life from

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: the Tyreck dot Com studios. When we come back, we'll

1341
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: discuss if that's gonna happen in Seattle. I'll explain why

1342
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Speaker 1: next before we do the let's toss it over the

1343
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: news desk to Seger, what is try.

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Speaker 2: To you guys reference that Cliff Kingsbury will not be

1345
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the Raiders. Contract talks broke down. He

1346
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: could go to Washington now, Si says the raiders new

1347
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: OC could be Luke Getzi, who's been with the Bears.

1348
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of NFL to discuss. In about

1349
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen minutes, I will say I'm glad you

1350
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: played the actual SoundBite of Jim Harbaugh talking about the

1351
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: Chargers higher this hour because so many people in media,

1352
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: including on these airwaves, have taken off and run with

1353
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 2: something that he didn't quite say. Your cut that you

1354
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: played was the question about southern California. He said, here,

1355
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: they respect talent effort in winning, and it needs to

1356
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: be multiple. This was not some sort of Lebron James

1357
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 2: prediction We're gonna win four, We're gonna win five.

1358
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: Same thing I thought, though, I was like, oh, not six,

1359
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: not seven.

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Speaker 2: In other words, to make an impact in such a

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01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: crowded sports market, which it is, you need to be

1362
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: good and probably more than once, which is quite accurate. Honestly,

1363
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: the LA Rams have been to two Super Bowls. They're

1364
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: not the Lakers. They're not the Dodgers in LA. The

1365
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: Dodgers literally today at the stadium had their annual offseason FanFest.

1366
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: This was the first time they've actually had to charge

1367
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: for tickets to it to try and hold the crowd down,

1368
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: and still stuffed in twenty five thirty five thousand fans

1369
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: to the outfield and the parking lot. Thing for that,

1370
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: the Lakers are still a massive thing in LA and

1371
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: their record was twenty five and twenty five coming into tonight.

1372
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: Another thing is that hosts and this is not just

1373
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: here have talked about, Oh, whoever hires, they're getting a

1374
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: great roster. You don't know what the roster's gonna be.

1375
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: The Chargers have major salary cap problems this offseason. They

1376
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: were all in this past year. They're already paying Herbert

1377
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: and Derwin, James and Keenan Allen and Mack and Bose.

1378
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: Are you sure that all of those are I'm not.

1379
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: Who's to say that Max's going to be back as

1380
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: a Charger or that Bosa is going to be back

1381
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: as a Charger. In addition to the constant problem of

1382
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers losing a myriad of close games at the end,

1383
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,919
Speaker 2: they primarily just need two basic football things, a reliable

1384
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: defense and toughness. We've talked about it on this show

1385
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: often that the reason they hired Brandon Staley is he

1386
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: was defensive coordinator of the top rated d in the

1387
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: NFL with the Rams, and yet in his three years,

1388
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: first two seasons bottom five in run defense, third season,

1389
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: bottom five in pass defense.

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Speaker 1: By the way I saw a headlin, I didn't actually

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: read it. Did you see Brandon Staley is interviewing with

1392
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: the Rams? Did past tense that kind of speaks to

1393
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: your mediocrity, Like if you have a former boss, I

1394
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't imagine, like and was not select Yeah,

1395
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: exactly Like if dan Quinn doesn't work out a year

1396
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: from now and the Cowboys need a DC, I don't

1397
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy is making him interview whatever. I feel

1398
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: so bad for Brandon Staley. All I do is pick

1399
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: out him. But anyway, and the.

1400
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: Other thing about the toughness comment, I get that because

1401
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 2: I still remember, not this past season, but the one before.

1402
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: I happened to hear a former scout speaking who had

1403
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: seen the Chargers multiple times, and he turned to the

1404
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: person next to him and said, they're just not tough. Sure,

1405
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: this is not a compliment to your football team. So

1406
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: if Harball can fix those two things, reliable defense and toughness,

1407
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: you know, who's to say that every game is going

1408
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 2: to be close in the last two minutes. It's we

1409
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: have a long history as NFL fans of seeing in

1410
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 2: our lifetimes somebody that's a last place team one year

1411
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: is a playoff team the very next year.

1412
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: Texans.

1413
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: I mean, what were the Bengals for years and years

1414
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: and then they get burrow At You know, and let's

1415
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: keep in mind the Chargers were so bad last year,

1416
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: and this is good for any incoming coach. They get

1417
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: a four play schedule, so on the one hand, it's

1418
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: their turn to play the Ravens Division.

1419
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: Not great.

1420
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: They're also going to be playing the Patriots in Arizona

1421
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: and Carolina and Titans no offense, but that's the Chargers

1422
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: schedule for the coming season. To anyone who's maybe a

1423
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: Titans fit, we've seen them. It's just there's a reason

1424
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 2: that teams can turn it around quickly.

1425
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: In the NFL.

1426
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: The divisions are not large, and the schedule is shall

1427
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: we say balanced. It's purposely that way, and it's a

1428
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: great product because everybody thinks they have a chance.

1429
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: It's almost like you know things about the Chargers organization.

1430
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: Just speaking truths, just happy to contribute to the show.

1431
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: We have the NBA and two games of note that

1432
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: happened tonight. The Lakers ended the next nine game winning

1433
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: streak one thirteen to one oh five, and Steph Curry

1434
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: scored sixty points but lost in overtime at Atlanta. One

1435
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: thirty four College hoops in the top ten North Carolina

1436
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: over Duke, Kansas be Houston Tennessee one at Kentucky tonight,

1437
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: and by the way, UCLA did beat Oregon seventy one

1438
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: sixty three. They now have a winning record in conference

1439
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: after that horrible start, and the game at Gonzaga has

1440
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's in the lead in the final second sixty

1441
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: three sixty at the moment.

1442
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox

1443
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting

1444
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: live fromthetiraq dot com studios. Really quickly. One higher that

1445
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: we didn't get to. Mike McDonald, Baltimore defensive coordinator, is

1446
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: in in Seattle. Jason. I'll be quick here because we

1447
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: had to get to the break and get back to

1448
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: the saga. But I think what's interesting there's rumors that

1449
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: Alabama offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb, who of course was at

1450
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Washington last year with Kaylen de Boor, he's now at

1451
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: Alabama with Klen de Boer. There's interest. I don't know

1452
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: if he's technically interviewed yet, but I just bring it

1453
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: up because it's kind of what we just talked about

1454
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: with Dan Quinn. Mike McDonald's a defensive guy, but I

1455
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: tend to think that he he's a younger guy, and

1456
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: he kind of understands like, I can't be everything to everybody.

1457
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on the defense. I'm gonna bring in

1458
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: somebody smart to run this offense. So I like young

1459
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: I like the higher and I like it even more

1460
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: if he brings in an elite offensive coordinator, because I

1461
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: think obviously, with his defensive background, that's where his focus

1462
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: should be. Agreed, I mean, I like the higher too.

1463
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: My argument for not hiring defensive head coaches is not

1464
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 3: that they aren't super talented.

1465
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: I think them.

1466
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 3: I think McDonald is a superstar. My problem is this,

1467
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 3: whoever you get to run the offense. This young guy

1468
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: you're talking about there could be a stud. And even

1469
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 3: if you throw grub out there and it's somebody else,

1470
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 3: if you get a stud offensive coordinator, that dude's gonna

1471
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 3: leave pretty quickly. It doesn't happen that way for defensive

1472
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: coordinators because there's just not that many of them that

1473
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 3: are being hired for jobs, certainly not nearly as fast

1474
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 3: as an offensive league. That's the problem is McDonald could

1475
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: have a great offensive coordinator for a year and lose

1476
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 3: them and have to do it all over again and

1477
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 3: then again and again and again. That's the only problem

1478
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: I have with the defensive coordinator becoming your head coach,

1479
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 3: because your offense then can become a revolving door, and

1480
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 3: that is just not a sustainable way to succeed.

1481
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: It isn't. I am curious to see how Mike McDonald does, though.

1482
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just a guy that seems like everybody respects.

1483
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: He was kind of the defensive coordinator that elevated Michigan

1484
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: early in the last couple of years of the run

1485
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: of the hardball run goes back to the NFL has

1486
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 1: success there by the way, we do have a final

1487
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: in college hoops. Saint Mary's does win at Gonzaga. Zag's

1488
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: this point probably are gonna need to win their conference

1489
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: tournament to make the Big Dance, which is kind of

1490
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: crazy to think about, but that is a final in

1491
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: college hoops. The last major game of today, Fox Sports

1492
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: Radio Er tours Jaysmart, broadcasting live from the Tirec dot

1493
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: Com studios. When we come back, we'll get back to

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Speaker 1: the news desk to Sager. We'll get you caught up

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Speaker 1: on everything that you've missed throughout the day to Saga.

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Speaker 1: Next Sports Radio, Uh sure, singing Super Bowl halftime this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's where you're going with this. Lorena Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio aer Torris Days, martinbardcasting live fromth Tireck dot

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Speaker 1: Com studios. Do you want to get into the news

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Speaker 1: desk with the Sager? Although, before I do, Corey Berkharst says,

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Speaker 1: best segment on FSR is the extended seve Di Sager

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Speaker 1: Update every Saturday night at Aeron Torres go game Cocks

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Speaker 1: South Carolina basketball. They might actually mess around to win

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: the SEC this year. We could talk about that an

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Speaker 1: hour four, but for right now, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: news desk to Saga. The floor is yours?

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Speaker 2: My Meanwhile, has anyone noticed Arkansas basketball this year?

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Speaker 1: How can you not know?

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Speaker 3: I went?

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Speaker 1: I went to Arkansas. I was at the Duke game.

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Speaker 1: They rushed the floor. It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Two and seven in conference. Got killed at LSU today, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's bad. South Carolina quarterback Spencer Ratler, Yes, at least

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Speaker 2: he played at the Senior Bowl. Quarterback Michael Penix of

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Speaker 2: Washington did not play. Got in his three practices for

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Speaker 2: everyone this week. The scouting combine for the NFL starts

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Speaker 2: in Indy February. The twenty ninth. Today's final score of

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Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl was sixteen to seven. By the way

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame quarterback Sam Hartman seven of twenty five passing

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Speaker 2: for sixty nine yards and one interception. We've had a

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Speaker 2: lot of NFL to discuss this segment, but one note

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01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: about Doc rivers team. The Milwaukee Bucks had lost two

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Speaker 2: with him on the bench. Recently, they had a mid

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Speaker 2: season firing of a first year coach, Adrian Griffin. He

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Speaker 2: takes over and does get a comeback win tonight, and

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Speaker 2: that means he and his staff will be coaching the

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference All Stars in two weeks. He says he's

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Speaker 2: going to donate the money to Griffin, who kind of

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: got them this far. But why aren't the Celtics staff.

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: Why aren't they being selected, you may ask their tops

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: in the East. It's because they already had the All

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: Star coaching nod last year and therefore ineligible to do

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Speaker 2: it again this year. Now to the NFL stuff. According

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Speaker 2: to SI, Raiders are working on a contract to hire

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: former Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getzi as their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: He had recently interviewed for Saints and Patriots openings. We

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier that Cliff Kingsbury is not getting the Raiders

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Speaker 2: job after contract talks broke down, that he could go

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Speaker 2: to Washington now, and the Commanders themselves today formally announced

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Speaker 2: Dan Quinn as their new head coach. He was defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator in Dallas for three years. Cowboys have an opening.

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: They interviewed Mike Zimmer for their DC opening. He worked

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Speaker 2: for them through two thousand and six. The Bucks officially

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01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: hired offensive coordinator Liam Cohen from Kentucky. The Dolphins new

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is Anthony Weaver from Baltimore. Speaking of Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: Ravens wide receiver Za Flowers back in the news today

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: fined about eight eleven thousand dollars for his taunting penalty

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: that was so costly. Last Sunday, quarterback Sean Manyon reportedly

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Speaker 2: retired and will join the Green Bay Packers coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: The NFL's Pro Bowl games are going on this weekend

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Speaker 2: ending tomorrow in Orlando. I know you both have the

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Speaker 2: DVR set for that.

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Speaker 1: How many weeks till the what I turned out for

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01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: a couple of seconds of exactly spring football is just

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: a few weeks around the corner too. That's worth noting, uh,

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Speaker 1: it might be more exciting than flag football, but okay.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is a week from Sunday in Vegas, Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: against San Francisco Chiefs. Running Back Jerick McKinnon, after a

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Speaker 1: groin injury, was designated to return from injured reserve.

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: Yesterday. Running Back Isaiah Pacheco was limited in practice again

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Speaker 2: with his toe and ankle injuries. All Pro guard Joe

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01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: Toney did not practice again with his pectoral injury. He's

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Speaker 2: questionable for the Super Bowl. On the forty nine er side.

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Speaker 2: Tight End George Kittle, with the toe injury, did not practice,

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Speaker 2: but he has downplayed that hurt. Seems he's a go,

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Speaker 2: but he does need to actually practice once they get

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Speaker 2: to Vegas in the coming week. San Francisco has had

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Speaker 2: two unimpressive games and they're still alive. Baltimore was top

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Speaker 2: seed in the AFC and played a very unimpressive game

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Speaker 2: last week and got eliminated, So you got to give

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Speaker 2: then that they're still going. They came back to beat Detroit,

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Speaker 2: as you talked about early in tonight's show, effect San

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Speaker 2: Francisco scored seventeen straight points in an eight minute span

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Speaker 2: of the third quarter last weekend to tie up that game,

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Speaker 2: and Detroit still has never been to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Incredible talent that San Francisco is going to have on

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Speaker 2: display potentially again in the Super Bowl. Because Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: had ninety yards rushing two touchdowns last game, Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 2: about ninety yards receiving. Brock Purty on only five carries

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Speaker 2: had almost fifty yards rushing. Fred Warner had thirteen tackles.

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Speaker 2: He was a unanimous All Pro All Pro being not

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. This is both conferences combined. Warner was a

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Speaker 2: unanimous vote out of the fifty voters. Christian McCaffrey was

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Speaker 2: unanimously the All Pro running back at full back, Kyle Yuschek,

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Speaker 2: the All Pro tight end is Kittle. Trent Williams at

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Speaker 2: left tackle not only All Pro. Again, there was a

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01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: great note from Pro Football Focus that Trent Williams going

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01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: into last weekend had not allowed a sack since Week

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Speaker 2: thirteen of the pre season twenty twenty two, a span

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Speaker 2: of over seven hundred pass blocking snaps. That's what any

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01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: opponent's going to have to go up against facing the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers and that star on one

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Speaker 2: side So the Niners this season had a five and

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Speaker 2: zero start, lost three straight in October, coinciding with the

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel injury, and then did win six games in

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Speaker 2: a row. Confusingly, remember how badly they lost Christmas Night

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Speaker 2: to Baltimore, But again they're here. Baltimore's nut. So how

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Speaker 2: about this from Kyle Shanahan in the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 2: For the last five years, he now has the highest

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Speaker 2: postseason winning percentage of any head coach without an NFL

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Speaker 2: title all time minimum make playoff games. His record eight

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Speaker 2: and three forty nine Ers were the first team to

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Speaker 2: make three straight NFC title games since they did so

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Speaker 2: with Jim Harbaugh as coach a decade ago. But for

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Speaker 2: all their success, their last Super Bowl win was the

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four season. San Francisco, now with this run

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Speaker 2: has the most postse and wins in the history of

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Forty nine Ers have thirty eight playoff wins.

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Speaker 2: Packer's still with thirty seven, New England thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Steve Desager, great and foes always.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Eric tours Jason Martin along with the

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Speaker 1: Sager taking you up until two am. Eastern time when

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Speaker 1: we come back back to the NBA. Some thoughts on

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Speaker 1: a busy week, disappointing week for Joel Ampat. That's next.

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Speaker 1: is going to deliver the goods on busy We could

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Speaker 1: cross sports. It's you know, obviously a lot of NFL,

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Speaker 1: some NBA, some college hoops. There is a lot going

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Speaker 1: on in the world of sports. Jason really quickly just

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Speaker 1: didn't want to follow up on a story from last

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Speaker 1: week and took a little bit of an unfortunate turn.

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Speaker 1: Joe Lmby, So you and I were on air following

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01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: that situation in Denver. He did not play, was a

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01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: scratch just a few minutes before tip off. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: on the injury report, and you know, you and I

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01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about that, but I

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01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: bring it up because he did not play the following

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Speaker 1: game in Portland. Then he tried to come back against

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01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. There was kind of a dust

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01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: up and not a dust up, but like you know,

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01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 1: kind of going for a loose ball, weird landing, whatever,

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: and unfortunately the guy, you know, the poor guy can't

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01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: stay healthy. He does have a lateral meniscus tear. I

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01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: won't bore people with too many details, but surgery is

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: an option, but that would keep him out. So they're

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01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: kind of trying to figure out what are we gonna

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01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: do with him next. Don't have a ton of thoughts

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01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: on this, Jason, but but I do think, you know,

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01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, assuming he doesn't miss too much time, and

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: maybe this was a better conversation for before an actual

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01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: knee injury that could keep him up for extended period

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01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: of time. There were a lot of conversations about the

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01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: sixty five game MVP rule. I think most people know

1650
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: we discussed it last week, but to be eligible for

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01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: postseason awards as well as all NBA teams, you need

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: to play sixty five games. This year, MBAD was already

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: trending towards probably hitting knee under before this injury. He

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: almost certainly will now, which means he will not be

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01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,879
Speaker 1: eligible for the MVP. You know, you can argue if

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01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: he's out an extended period of time, he probably wouldn't

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01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: have been in the mix anyway. But prior to this week,

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01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: he was probably the favorite for the award going back

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: to back potentially this spring. What do you make of

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: the whole week for Joel m and then also any

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01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: reconsideration of this sixty five game rule that requires players

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01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: to play that many games to be qualified for all

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Speaker 1: these awards.

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Speaker 3: Hated for Embiid, hated for the league because he's fun

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01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: to watch, He's great to watch, and he's one of

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Speaker 3: the best players we've seen in decades. I mean, he's

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01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: absolutely outstanding. But dating back to his time at Kansas,

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01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: he has struggled to stay healthy, and it's why I've

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01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 3: always kind of faded Philadelphia when it comes to predictions

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01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 3: for the playoffs. It wasn't just Harden, it was Embiid

1671
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: being unhealthy a lot of the time. And I mean,

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01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: he goes hard, but he does seem his body seems

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01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 3: to be a little fragile and some of the things

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01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: that have nagged him continue to nag him. This lateral

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01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 3: moniscous tear. This is the kind of thing that can

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01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: be really hard to come back from over a short

1677
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 3: period of time, and if it does require surgery, that

1678
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: might be the end of the year. But at the

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 3: same time, you need him be one hundred percent. He

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 3: can't continue to go around being sixty percent all the time,

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Speaker 3: So you have to work through that. In terms of

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Speaker 3: sixty five games, No, it doesn't make me revisit it.

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01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 3: It stinks because I understand how great Joel Embiid is.

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01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 3: But if you're not playing, then you're not valuable to anybody,

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01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 3: and your stats don't have the same opportunity to drop

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 3: if you don't continue to play. So there has to

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01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 3: be some kind of a cutoff line, because you're getting

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01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,560
Speaker 3: the benefit of a greater percentage from each one of

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01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 3: the lesser games that you have played than somebody that's

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01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: played eighty two. Now, it also means if you played

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: eighty two, then you know a bad game is not

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01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 3: going to drop.

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Speaker 1: You as much.

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01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 3: But if you've already put a lot out there and

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01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 3: you barely make it to sixty five games, or you

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01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 3: make it to sixty games. That's an advantage that you

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01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: shouldn't have. As great as Joel Embiid is. There does

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01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 3: need to be incentive for guys to play, and I

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01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: don't need to read any more columns about it. We

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01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 3: need to revisit load management and stop dogging these guys

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01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 3: for that.

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01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: No, we don't.

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Speaker 3: If that is that big of a problem. If we

1704
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: are at that place, then let's just drop the NBA

1705
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 3: season as a whold of about sixty five games, and

1706
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 3: let's stop.

1707
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: This because.

1708
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: It's just it's become ridiculous, and this is the only

1709
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 3: thing that can try to push back against that. I

1710
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: know it's unfortunate, and you don't want to see the

1711
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 3: guy out of the running for an award that he

1712
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: would likely either win or certainly be one of the

1713
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 3: top two or three four by the end of the year.

1714
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,839
Speaker 3: But there does have to be some kind of standard

1715
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: and some ability to be on the floor.

1716
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think, and it kind of speaks

1717
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: to what I said to a minute ago, is if

1718
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: you can't play sixty five games independent of this injury,

1719
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: and it goes out saying I'll say it, but I

1720
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: know everybody knows, like nobody's wishing injury upon him. Nobody's happy.

1721
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: We get all that, okay, But at the same time, like,

1722
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: the way that I look at it is the idea

1723
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: that you can't play sixty sixty five six five games.

1724
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: If you can't play sixty five games, let's say, even

1725
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: if it's sixty four, that means you've missed eighteen or

1726
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: sixteen games. Excuse me, that's over twenty percent of the season.

1727
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: That means one out of every five games you are

1728
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: unable to play or you did not play. And it's like,

1729
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: can you be the best at your job? Maybe you

1730
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: can be. I mean, I'm sure there's examples in sales

1731
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: or something where a guy works a four day work

1732
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: week and he's so good at his job whatever, But

1733
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: in sports, like can you show up? Can you not

1734
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: show up a fifth of the time and be the

1735
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: best at your job in a given year? I just

1736
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: find that hard to believe. So one, I have no

1737
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: fundamental problem with this, and two, and I heard other

1738
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: people make the argument this week is like.

1739
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 3: It sucks.

1740
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: It's maybe a tiny bit unfair, but like what I

1741
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: also like, like the people that are bleeding hearts over, like,

1742
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, huh, it's so unfair. So this so

1743
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: that it's like, well, the reason that this rule was

1744
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: put into place, it really isn't about Joel Embid. I

1745
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: mean it is, but it isn't. What it's about is

1746
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: you want your star players on the court because, by

1747
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: the way, you're going through a media rights negotiation right now,

1748
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: and you know, if you're paying billions of dollars as

1749
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: networks will be, they want to know that the superstars

1750
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 1: are going to play. And so it's like, it really

1751
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: like people talk about it as if it's some major

1752
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: detriment that God forbid these guys have to show up

1753
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: to play more than four out of every five nights.

1754
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: It's like, but it's for the health of the league.

1755
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: It's not only for the health of the league. It's

1756
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: for the health of your paycheck. The only way your

1757
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: paycheck keeps going up, the only way the salary cap

1758
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: keeps going up, the only way minimum salaries keep going up,

1759
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: max salaries keep going up is to get more in

1760
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: TV revenue. The only way you do that is to

1761
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: get more revenue. The only way you get that is

1762
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 1: by having a pro that networks want to buy. And

1763
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: so I think that's the part that gets lost in

1764
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: this is like you can feel bad for Joel Mbead individually,

1765
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: and even if he hadn't gotten hurt to the extent

1766
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: that he did, you could make the argument that it

1767
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 1: would stink for him to play sixty four games and

1768
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: not be eligible for these awards. But it's also like

1769
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 1: this rule was put in place for the good of everyone,

1770
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: and it does drive me crazy that the bleeding Hearts

1771
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: that you want the players to be able to kind

1772
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: of show up and do whatever they want whenever they want,

1773
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: don't fully understand that.

1774
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 3: And I mean to the bleeding Hearts, I also think

1775
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 3: they want to make sure they still have interview access. Yep,

1776
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: they still want to make sure that their phone calls.

1777
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: Explain that point, Jason, For people who don't follow it.

1778
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're tight in the NBA circles,

1779
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: a lot of that comes down to who you know

1780
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 3: and how interested they are in returning your text messages

1781
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: or returning your emails or giving you access to them

1782
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 3: so that you can write your big articles and all.

1783
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Of that kind of thing.

1784
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 3: So you kind of have to almost be out there

1785
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 3: on the picket lines with the players if it comes

1786
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 3: down to that. Because Ultimately, they're the ones that make

1787
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: or break your job, So you can't come out too

1788
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: strongly or you might accidentally upset the wrong person in

1789
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 3: the Sixers organization and then either your credential doesn't mean

1790
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 3: anything anymore, or they take longer to get back to you,

1791
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 3: or they give your story to somebody else. Yeah, and

1792
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing that out there because I don't have

1793
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 3: a dog in that fight, so I can just kind

1794
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: of look at it from the outside, and in this case,

1795
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 3: it's a benefit to me. Sometimes it's a benefit to

1796
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: them to have the jobs that they do and the

1797
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: roles that they do. But in this case, I can

1798
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 3: just tell you exactly what I think because I'm not

1799
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 3: gonna lose access that I didn't have in the first place.

1800
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting deal. And you know, again, it

1801
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: took a little bit of a different twist because obviously

1802
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: it appears is now, it appears now that MBT is

1803
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: going to be out for an extended period of time.

1804
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: But you know, and the other thing too, is like

1805
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: this only went into place because this only went into

1806
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: place because of the fact that you know, like guys

1807
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: were not playing and you had to do it. You

1808
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: had to do something to get these guys on the court,

1809
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it's a weird deal. It stinks, But

1810
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: like I do, I don't have very much sympathy for

1811
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: the guys that are relatively healthy and just are choosing

1812
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: not to play. We know how load management works, Jason,

1813
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: anything really quickly before we get to the break and

1814
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: come back and do talk a little bit more. Anything

1815
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: really standing out about the NBA to you right now?

1816
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Lakers win tonight in New York

1817
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of comes on the heels of Lebron James, kind

1818
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: of being very Lebron James. Lebron James ish being very

1819
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: noncommittal about his future. He does, of course have that

1820
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: player option for next year. But I will say from

1821
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: the NBA perspective, I know you and I don't generally

1822
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: tend to talk about it very much but until we

1823
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: get too closer to playoff time. But it has been

1824
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: interesting season. Clippers are playing well. You know, the All

1825
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: Star teams came out this week. As Sega just told you,

1826
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers is going to coach the Eastern Conference NBA

1827
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: All Start. It's just an interesting year in the association.

1828
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: As we hit you know, probably about the sixty percent

1829
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: of the way point.

1830
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 3: I would say that the one thing you do get

1831
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 3: out of this embiid situations, it really does even open

1832
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: up the East even more. And that is interesting depending

1833
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 3: on how long he's going to be out of what

1834
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 3: they're going to do. If you believed in the Sixers

1835
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 3: and thought that they were going to be there, you

1836
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 3: just kind of look at that conference and you can

1837
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 3: make an argument for several teams. I know there've been

1838
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 3: debates had on Fox Sports Radio over the past week

1839
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: about whether the Knicks can win the East. Maybe they can.

1840
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they were on a roll.

1841
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 3: They got beat last night by the Lakers, but you're

1842
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 3: eventually going to get beat in the league. You were

1843
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 3: on a nine game win streak and you were thirteen

1844
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 3: games over four hundred or five hundred, so you were

1845
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 3: doing pretty well for yourself. The Bucks with Doc Rivers,

1846
01:31:58,320 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: we know what the talent they have on the floor

1847
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 3: or they're gonna be heard from. There's just there's a

1848
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 3: lot there. And then there's some young teams in the

1849
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 3: West that are fun to watch. So I think it's

1850
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 3: just more right now there's some depth. As a Thunder fan,

1851
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm eating good this year.

1852
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,759
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, as a thunderfan,

1853
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:13,879
Speaker 1: you must be really excited.

1854
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I mean I'm looking right now at

1855
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 3: the screen and there's highlights of Wemby and look, that's

1856
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 3: a bad basketball team, but he looks phenomenal. Like I

1857
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 3: want to see where we are with him in two

1858
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 3: or three years from now.

1859
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: It is interesting for all the you know, I think

1860
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of wrong with the sport. I mean,

1861
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: I also think there's a lot of really young, interesting

1862
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: players on top of the veterans like Lebron, like a

1863
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 1: KD like whoever. By the way, it was wild. I

1864
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 1: was kind of flipping through the standings that that Pacific

1865
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: Division last place the Golden State Warriors, second to last

1866
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: place the Los Angeles Lakers, and third from the bottom

1867
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. So it's an interesting year to say

1868
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: the least. It's an interesting year, to say least. Fox

1869
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Sports Radio airtors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyreck

1870
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: dot Com studios. We'll come back, tell you what, Jason,

1871
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Let's do a first look at the big game next Sunday.

1872
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:13,839
Speaker 1: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody,

1873
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

1874
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: Tyrek dot Com studios. Busy Show tonight bounced all over

1875
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: the place, gone from the NBA to the NFL, back

1876
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: to the NBA. I do want to go back to

1877
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. Jason. By the way, we spend a little

1878
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: time last hour talking a little bit about the NFC

1879
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: Championship Game reaction. Dan Campbell all that, I know we're

1880
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: eight days removed now or seven days removed from the

1881
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game. But outside of obviously the Chiefs go

1882
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: into another Super Bowl. We know that that's the storyline

1883
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: really quickly before we do start looking ahead to the

1884
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What'd you make of the Ravens performance last

1885
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Sunday in the AFC Championship Game.

1886
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 3: It was bad.

1887
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean it really was. It was bad all around.

1888
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: It felt like Carball was out coached. It felt like

1889
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 3: they made some uncharacteristic mistakes. Lamar don't I don't know

1890
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 3: what to make of that performance.

1891
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: I saw some.

1892
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was hot takes or if

1893
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 3: it was actual legitimate analysis about how Lamar is so

1894
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 3: interested in making sure everybody thinks he can throw that

1895
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 3: he's just not going to run.

1896
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Even if he's gonna.

1897
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 3: Lose, He'd rather lose trying to throw than win running

1898
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 3: the football. I'm not going there. I just think some

1899
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 3: old bad habits showed up where he was airmailing guys.

1900
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 3: I think he was uncomfortable. I think they did a

1901
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 3: nice job. I think spac Nobell had a really good

1902
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 3: scheme for him and it was executed extremely well by

1903
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 3: the Kansas City defense. Baltimore just couldn't find any breathing room.

1904
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: They just they never looked comfortable. They looked like they

1905
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: got knocked off the spot early, and Mahomes.

1906
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Just kept on.

1907
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 3: Making plays when he had to. He made plays in

1908
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 3: the second half. Mike McDonald's defense pretty much shut them down,

1909
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 3: like it became a slog of a game to watch

1910
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 3: at that point. But Baltimore could not find a way

1911
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 3: to call back in it. Opportunity after opportunity after opportunity,

1912
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 3: Baltimore just could not They there.

1913
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: Was just no daylight for them.

1914
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: It was kind of it was kind of amazing to

1915
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 3: me how deficient they looked out there. They didn't look anything.

1916
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 3: They looked like a completely different football team than the

1917
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: one that I had seen all year.

1918
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Speaker 1: Long. Yeah, I think more than Lamar, I was disappointed

1919
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: in I thought the entire offensive game plan and more specific,

1920
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, Todd Munkin, who's obviously gotten a lot of

1921
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: credit this year, the first year offensive coordinator. He was

1922
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: brought in to kind of modernize that offense, take some

1923
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: off Lamar's shoulders. I don't think he did a very

1924
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: good job. What was the final stat I think it

1925
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,919
Speaker 1: was six total rushes, Yeah, for players not named Lamar Jackson,

1926
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: and so I think that this was one, you know,

1927
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: listen the Lions, the Lions in the NFC. It was

1928
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: a meltdown by everybody. There was a lot of you know,

1929
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: a lot of blame to go around. But I do

1930
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: still think that Dan Campbell play, you know, a decision

1931
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth down really was like

1932
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: the defining thing about that game. I don't think that's

1933
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: a take or anything, but it's just the facts. I

1934
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 1: thought this was just a meltdown of epic proportions by

1935
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: all accounts from the Baltimore Ravens. I mean, Lamar didn't

1936
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: play well. You had Za Flowers, you know, essentially fumbling,

1937
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: getting the ball knocked out. Whatever you want to say

1938
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 1: on the one yard line. I don't think Todd Munkin

1939
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: called a very good game, And the crazy part was

1940
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: like they were in it until the end. So that's

1941
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 1: kind of my big takeaway. I thought it was a

1942
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: systematic breakdown and you kind of said it to lead

1943
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: the segment of John Harbaugh whatever. The thing that really

1944
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: stands out to me that was the play calling. I mean,

1945
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 1: you can't give Todd Munkin credit all season long, as

1946
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has said, to win another MVP without giving

1947
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: him a lot of blame because I thought, I don't

1948
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: know exactly what you know, we don't know what's going

1949
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: on in the headsets, but it felt to me like

1950
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: they fell down early and they felt like they had

1951
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,759
Speaker 1: to be something that they weren't all year, and frankly,

1952
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: something they probably didn't have to be. It wasn't like

1953
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: they were down, you know, fourteen to three at any point,

1954
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: like they were within a touchdown basically the entire game.

1955
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: So it was disappointing. I thought the play calling was

1956
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: mediocre at best.

1957
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean you had say Flowers doing good things,

1958
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 3: but then doing some doing the kind of stuff you

1959
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 3: just can't do, especially in a game like that.

1960
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna get beat if you.

1961
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 3: Do stuff like that, and that's what Zay Flowers did,

1962
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 3: and you had you know, Josh Reynolds picked the worst

1963
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 3: day for Detroit to have the worst game he's played

1964
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 3: as a Lion, having a couple of big drops late

1965
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 3: in that game when it was still something where they

1966
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 3: could try to stop that momentum drain that went for them.

1967
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 3: But you just look at it's like which team made

1968
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:15,839
Speaker 3: more mistakes? Well, it was Baltimore and it was Detroit ultimately,

1969
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 3: because there's sixty minutes played in not fifty, and that's

1970
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 3: what it was. The Chiefs looked like a team that

1971
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 3: had been there before in all the critical spots, and

1972
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 3: they have in all the critical spots. Yes, there's been

1973
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 3: some name changes, but just when you need them most,

1974
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's showing up big again, Patrick Mahomes is making

1975
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 3: plays again, Chris Jones is making big time plays again.

1976
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,799
Speaker 3: Spagnola is showing up with a perfect scheme, and Andy

1977
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 3: Reid is dialing up bombs like he's doing everything that

1978
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 3: you need him to do. It just looked like there

1979
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 3: was one team that had experience in that moment, and

1980
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 3: there was one that it may have been a little

1981
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 3: bit too big for him, because you're right, I think

1982
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 3: that one of the reasons why you get away from

1983
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 3: the thing that you succeeded at doing all year long.

1984
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 3: And this goes for Lamar, it goes for Todd Monkin,

1985
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 3: it goes for everybody that struggled that day. For Baltimore

1986
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 3: all the way up to John Harbaugh, is you kind

1987
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 3: of panic. And it just showed to me that they

1988
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 3: didn't fully believe in themselves enough if you stay the course.

1989
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 3: The Baltimore team that I saw all year, they could

1990
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 3: have played Baltimore Ravens football and won that game, especially

1991
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 3: with the way the defense turned it up in the

1992
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 3: second half.

1993
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: But they didn't.

1994
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 3: They got away from their identity and as such, they're

1995
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 3: going to be watching next week with the rest of us.

1996
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,879
Speaker 1: It's funny. I hadn't thought of it from this perspective,

1997
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: but it was like Detroit got in trouble for doing

1998
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: exactly what they did all season, and Baltimore got in

1999
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: trouble for doing exactly what they didn't do all season

2000
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: got away from it. So I'll tell you what, Jayson,

2001
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned some things on the Chiefs. I want to

2002
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: get to them next obviously start looking ahead to next Sunday.

2003
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead, let's get over to the news

2004
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 1: desk to sag or get us updated on what's going on,

2005
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: and we'll talk super Bowl in the back end.

2006
01:39:58,240 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: All right, and the Chiefs are trying to be the

2007
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: first team to repeat as Super Bowl champions since the

2008
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: New England Patriots of two thousand and four. Baltimore was

2009
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 2: the one seed. Their season ended at fourteen and five.

2010
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 2: You know, the Chiefs scored touchdowns on their first two

2011
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: possessions last weekend, two long drives about eighty five yards

2012
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: and then a sixteen play seventy five yard drive at

2013
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 2: a nine minute drive. No touchdowns the rest of the

2014
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 2: day after that, if at Kansas City's offense in the

2015
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: second half, five punts, take a knee, go to the

2016
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Now let's get to what went on tonight,

2017
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 2: shall we?

2018
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Well?

2019
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 2: First off this programming note, NASCAR season was going to

2020
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 2: start tomorrow night from LA on Fox TV with the

2021
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 2: clash at the LA Coliseum, but with rainde on Sunday,

2022
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday in Los Angeles, they quickly moved it

2023
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: up from tomorrow to tonight on FS one. Denny Hamlin

2024
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 2: was the winner, Kyle Busch second, and obviously rain is

2025
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 2: a factor in Northern California as well. Golf's at Pebble

2026
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: Beach this weekend. Today Windom Clark shot a third round

2027
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: sixty leads by one stroke, but it's due to rain

2028
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 2: there Sunday with thirty mile an hour wins and a

2029
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 2: chance of rain at Pebble Beach Monday as well. Live

2030
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Golf is having its opener in Mexico this weekend. Jolequen

2031
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 2: Neeman leads by four strokes. John Rahm is tied for

2032
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: second place. Cliff Kingsbury will not be offensive coordinator for

2033
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,600
Speaker 2: the Raiders after contract talks broke down. He could go

2034
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 2: to Washington now. As for the Super Bowl, it is

2035
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: a week from Sunday in Las Vegas, Kansas City, against

2036
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 2: San Francisco and running back Jerrick McKinnon of the Chiefs,

2037
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: after a groin injury, was designated to return from injured reserve.

2038
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 2: The NHL All Star Game MVP today in Toronto was

2039
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Austin Matthews. His team won today's All Star Final seven

2040
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: to four. The league's regular season schedule won't resume till Monday,

2041
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 2: with two games. As for the NBA. My goodness, did

2042
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,719
Speaker 2: we have some notable games and it was a short

2043
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:55,759
Speaker 2: schedule tonight. But Steph Curry scored sixty points but lost

2044
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 2: in overtime at Atlanta one forty one, one thirty four.

2045
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 2: Curry had twenty two points just in the fourth quarter

2046
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: at the end of regulation, though he missed a short

2047
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 2: shot off the glass. They lost in ot Curry was

2048
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 2: sixty He was twenty two of thirty eight from the floor.

2049
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, his teammate, four of nineteen shooting in the loss.

2050
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 2: Brooklyn got forty points from Cam Thomas and a win

2051
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 2: at Philadelphia. Sacramento got forty one from diarn Fox in

2052
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 2: a win at Chicago. Bullsguard Zach Lavine will have foot surgery.

2053
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 2: He's out for the season. He'll miss four to six months.

2054
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 2: Cleveland won its fifth straight a win at San Antonio.

2055
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 2: Milwaukee was down twenty four after the first quarter and

2056
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,560
Speaker 2: still won at Dallas one twenty nine to one seventeen.

2057
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 2: This was the matchup of the superstars. Giannis at Tenecumpo

2058
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 2: in the win forty eight points, ten assis, one turnover,

2059
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 2: Luka Donsich in the loss forty points, eleven assists, nine turnovers.

2060
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving of the MAVs out again with the spring thumb,

2061
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 2: and the Lakers ended the next nine game winning streak

2062
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 2: one thirteen, one oh five. Lebron James return had twenty

2063
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 2: four points, Anthony Davis back from injury, eighteen rebounds. Kyle

2064
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Kuzma of the Wizards will miss tomorrow's game against the

2065
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 2: Suns with a short sore shoulder. Charlotte guard LaMelo Ball,

2066
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: with a sore ankle, will miss a fifth straight game.

2067
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 1: Sunday.

2068
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 2: Hornets have lost six straight and Memphis for where Jaron

2069
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: Jackson is out tomorrow with a sore hip. Memphis has

2070
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 2: lost four in a row. In college hoops, some top

2071
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: ten matchups, North Carolina beat Duke ninety three eighty four,

2072
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,839
Speaker 2: Armando Baycot twenty five points on ten of thirteen shooting,

2073
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 2: Kansas be number four, Houston seventy eight sixty five, Jayhawk

2074
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 2: shot sixty nine percent from the floor. And Tonight Tennessee

2075
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 2: one at Kentucky one oh three ninety two. How about

2076
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 2: this from SEC Network. Coach Calipari's been at Kentucky so

2077
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 2: long they've played over two hundred and fifty home games

2078
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 2: there with him only twice before tonight had they never

2079
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 2: led in a home game.

2080
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: Wow with coach Alli Ferry.

2081
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,879
Speaker 2: And on top of that, Tennessee is the first SEC

2082
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 2: team to score one hundred against Kentucky nineteen since the

2083
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 2: great Arkansas Teaves of about thirty years ago. Go wow

2084
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 2: and UCLA beat Oregon tonight Saint Mary's one at ken

2085
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Zagaback to you.

2086
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: I saw some stat too. I think Tennessee is like

2087
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 1: seven and one against Kentucky under Rick Barnes when Kentucky's

2088
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: in the top ten, something like that.

2089
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 3: I saw one of those in person.

2090
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: I saw it in Knoxville. Let's see here. I could

2091
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: probably find it really quick for the stat nerds Rick

2092
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Barnes at Tennessee eleven and nine versus Kentucky seven and

2093
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 1: one versus Kentucky when Kentucky's ranked in the top ten.

2094
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Won't be in the top ten come Monday. Thank you

2095
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: very much to Sega. Have a great evening and you

2096
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: will be on tomorrow. Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard and Arnie

2097
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Plank Arnie playing Arney Spaniard, Arnie playing Yeah, Arnie playing

2098
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: gets okay in honor of Arnie.

2099
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: Vermont one another basketball game today eight to no in

2100
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: the American East.

2101
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Arizona Wildcats play tomorrow, probably bad news for him. They

2102
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 1: play Stanford at home.

2103
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 2: They better anytime Arizona in any sport in the Athletic Farm.

2104
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 2: It plays the same night Arnie is going on the air.

2105
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: It's bad news, That's what I'm saying. Ah, Well, Kate

2106
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: whin Stanford and home. You know you got bigger problems

2107
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: than Ari Spinner. Anyway, Thank you to seg all Right.

2108
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Erra Toorus Jason Martin broadcasting live from

2109
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,560
Speaker 1: the Tirereck dot Com studios. So, Jason, you know a

2110
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 1: couple things on next week's game. And the first thing,

2111
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, you said it last segment, and I think

2112
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: it's an important point. You know, you were talking about

2113
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, defense, Bagnol or whatever. I know it's not

2114
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: the sexiest topic of conversation, but I think sometimes we

2115
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,440
Speaker 1: get so wrapped up, and especially with the Chiefs. Historically,

2116
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: it's been Mahomes, it's been Kelsey obviously in a different lifetime,

2117
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,919
Speaker 1: it was tyreek Hill, It's Andy Reid, it's Eric Bienemy

2118
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 1: previously obviously no longer. Everyone loves to talk about the

2119
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: offense and the superstars and Patrick Mahomes and Isy the Goat,

2120
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: and he's on pace for this many, this and this many.

2121
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: That well keeps standing out to me, it's this defense man.

2122
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this too, Jason is You and

2123
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about this, obviously, but I know the

2124
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: focus is on the Chiefs in the super Bowl and

2125
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: obviously the Ravens in what happened last Sunday. In a

2126
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: lot of ways, though Sunday's result for the Chiefs gave

2127
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: me a different perspective on the Buffalo Bills as well,

2128
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: because you and I were on air last week crushing

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills over what happened, you know, in their

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01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: Divisional round game. But this Chiefs team has given up

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01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 1: basically next to nothing in the second half back to

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Speaker 1: back weeks. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Now, again, I don't

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01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: think the play calling was great against for Baltimore. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you look at at Buffalo, they miss a field goal,

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Speaker 1: there's some mistakes, there's this, there's some that. But to me,

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Speaker 1: as we head into next weekend, everybody wants to talk Mahomes,

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01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: they want to talk Kelsey. I get it. I feel

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01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: like this Chiefs defense isn't get enough credit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they're fine with it right up

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01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 3: until they win the Super Bowl. Because the lesser talked

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01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 3: about it's not even about having a chip on your shoulder,

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01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 3: even though that can be part of it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just, yeah, go ahead and go ahead

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01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: and forget about us a little bit. And that's what happened.

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01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you heard the stat that the Seger gave us,

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01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 3: and we were talking about it amongst ourselves as well

2147
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,480
Speaker 3: in the previous segment that in the second half, Kennessey's

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01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 3: defense just stood there and would not let Baltimore get

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01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 3: back into it, despite the fact that Baltimore's defense started.

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01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Playing a lot better.

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01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 3: And Spagnolo has kind of done this. This isn't new.

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01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 3: And you have a Chris Jones on that defense, and

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01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 3: you have a couple of guys that make big plays.

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01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 3: You got Carl Loftus who's not talked about anywhere near

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01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 3: as much as he should be, and I think it's

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01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 3: all right.

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01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 1: You go in there.

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01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 3: And I mean the year that the Rams won the

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01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, we all know had it not been for

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01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 3: the defense in the fourth quarter of that game, and

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01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald on the last couple of possessions in addition

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01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 3: to what Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford did on their

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01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 3: final offensive possession. They probably lose to the Bengals in

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01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 3: that game, it took both sides of the football to

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Speaker 3: win it. As great as that offense could be and was.

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01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 3: I think the same thing be true here. Mahomes may

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01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 3: have an outstanding Super Bowl, but Spagnolo and that defense

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01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 3: are going to be If there is a difference between

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01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 3: the two, it's gonna be the fact that the Kansas

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01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 3: City defense is no longer the paper tiger.

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01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: It might have been two or.

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01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 3: Three seasons ago, and consistently through Mahomes' career. Actually, if

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01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 3: you look back at it as the season gets a

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01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 3: little bit further in, especially since Pagnolo has been there

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01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, the defense is a completely different animal.

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01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 3: They and that's what I need you. If I'm a fan,

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01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 3: I need you to turn it on then, and that's

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01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 3: what they've been doing. And right now they are playing

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01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 3: knockout football. And of the two, as of late, I've

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01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 3: been more impressed with Kansas City's defense than I have

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01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 3: San Francisco's.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you perspective on San Francisco.

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01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: You know, I think you look at it one of

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01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: two ways. A couple very nice comeback wins, including one

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01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: that we were on the air for two weeks ago

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01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. The other thing is two

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01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 1: exceptionally slow starts. You know, the defense has not been

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01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: very good in either one of those games, and the

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01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 1: defense stepped up late. But a lot of that even

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01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 1: against Detroit was Detroit mistakes, Jamir Gibbs fumble, you know,

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01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: just just a lot of dumb stuff from the Detroit perspective. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Credit to them for getting back to the super Bowl.

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01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't know that I remember a

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01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: team that is playing in a Super Bowl that I

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01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 1: feel like less, like they're clicking on all cylinders, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like the forty nine ers. I can't

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01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: even remember the last time I feel like they played

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Speaker 1: an eight plus game. I certainly wouldn't say either of

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Speaker 1: these two playoff games. What do you making the forty

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01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,600
Speaker 1: nine ers going in? Yeah, I mean I think you

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Speaker 1: have to be worried.

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Speaker 3: I do think that, you know, they saw some high

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01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 3: powered offenses that were really playing well at that time.

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01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 3: I mean that Detroit team was on fire and everybody

2205
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 3: was healthy and Green Bay had really found themselves, and

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01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 3: you know you, I have moments there for both of

2207
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 3: those two football teams, but ultimately you're still there if

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01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 3: you're San Francisco. Coming into the season, I felt better

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01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 3: about San Francisco's defense is why. I mean, look, this

2210
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 3: is the super Bowl I picked before the year. I

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01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 3: picked Chiefs forty nine ers in a remach from four

2212
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 3: years ago, and that's what you've got. But right now,

2213
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 3: the team that looks the best is Kansas City. I

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01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 3: think the question is, and I guess we're just talking

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01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 3: about the defense right now. I think the question is

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 3: how much of that is Kansas City's defense being better

2217
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 3: than San Francisco as opposed to the offense is that

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01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 3: they faced just not being able to answer the bell

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01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 3: in the same way. Now, one thing that does concern

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01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 3: me is John Lynch's comments a couple of days ago

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01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 3: where he was asked about and responded to questions of

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01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:58,759
Speaker 3: effort lapses by the San Francisco defense against the Lions,

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01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 3: and his response was it's been addressed. Oh I don't

2224
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a problem going forward. That means

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01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 3: it was legit. Yeah, that's that right there stands that

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01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 3: stood out to me above anything else that I read

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01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,839
Speaker 3: this week before all the real hooplob begins to preview

2228
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 3: this game, which will be this coming week. It's that

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01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 3: John Lynch didn't say I don't know what you're talking about.

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01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:26,520
Speaker 3: He said, it's been addressed.

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01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you wonder. I mean, is it possible that you know,

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01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that shouldn't be an issue

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01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 1: in the playoffs.

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01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 3: That's just a weird that's a statement that that's that's

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 3: a statement that means there was some legitimacy behind the claim.

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01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 1: Well, and I think it speaks to how they've played

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01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: the last two games. I mean, you know, the first

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01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 1: one against Green Bay. Okay, you're coming off a bye week.

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01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: You know, da da da da dah. They're hot, they're

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Speaker 1: coming off to win it to Dallas Da da da.

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01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: But it's like that NFC Championship game. They were flat

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01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 1: and it's almost like a you know, a basketball team

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01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 1: that feels like, you know, they can get down and

2244
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 1: they'll just cut. It's like it's not always that easy.

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01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 1: So you know, when I just look at San Francisco,

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01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: like I said, I you know, not saying they can't

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01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 1: win next week, not saying they won't win. Next week,

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01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: we'll have plenty of time to break it down. I

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01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: just don't ever remember a team that I, you know,

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Speaker 1: usually you make a Super Bowl. Feels like you're clicking

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01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. Feels like this team has has a

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,480
Speaker 1: ways to go, at least based on the two playoff performances.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 1: Tireck dot Com Studios. One segment left, we come back

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Speaker 1: and wrap the show. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio aer tours Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 1: Thetirec dot Com Studios. Thirteen minutes thirteen minutes until Bernie

2258
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: Frado of The Bernie Frado Show follows us. Bernie will

2259
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: have all sorts of good stuff. Burn's gonna deliver, as always,

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01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: a lot to discussed. By the way, Jason, really quick.

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01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 1: I don't want to end on a super down note,

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01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: but during the breaks, I've heard a lot of the

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01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 1: other shows talk about it, and I know you're a

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a movie guru. Passing of a college

2265
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 1: or yesterday, passing of a movie icon, but also a

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: sports movie icon. Carl Weathers obviously passed away. He played

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01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 1: Apollo Creed in Rocky one, two, three, and four. Also,

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01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 1: of course played Chubbs Peterson in A Happy Gilmore. So

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01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: I know it's a weird way to end the show,

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01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 1: but I heard Kavino and Rich talking about it. I

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01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: believe somebody else did, maybe Jason Smith and Mike Harmon.

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01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: And I know you're a movie guy, so I didn't

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01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: know if you had anything to share there, but figured

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01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: i'd discuss with you or at least give you a

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01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 1: moment to jetmen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just a guy that had done it

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01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 3: for a long long time. I mean, Rocky was seventy six,

2278
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 3: but he had done you know, four films before that.

2279
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 3: Smaller roles Apollo Creed is what you.

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Speaker 1: Know him for.

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01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 3: But I mean truly, and I think at least somebody

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01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 3: else on this station said this this week as well,

2283
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 3: and I agree. The first thing comes to mind.

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01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I do immediately think of Apollo Creed

2285
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:20,839
Speaker 1: and you think of Predator.

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01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 3: But before Predator, I think a happy Gilmore.

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01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean I do.

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01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 3: I think of Chubbs, and I think about the alligator

2289
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: biting his hand off. And just even though that role

2290
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 3: was and that what was interesting about that is that

2291
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 3: led him to also be in two other Adam Sandler films,

2292
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 3: is right within like a five or six year span,

2293
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 3: so you know, he stuck around and he did a

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01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 3: couple of other movies with Adam Sandler that was an

2295
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 3: iconic role, even if it was like a secondary role.

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01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 3: I remember the Chubb scenes are the ones that I

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01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 3: think I've quoted the most with friends through the years.

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01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 3: Maybe the Bob Barker stuff but I and maybe Been

2299
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 3: Stiller stuff, but I the Chubbs role, to me is

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01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 3: vastly underrated as one that was memorable despite maybe in

2301
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 3: many in many ways it wouldn't have been, but he

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 3: just knocked it out of the park so much it

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01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 3: became iconic to me well, and I think too.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is is that it shows like his

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01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 1: range as an actor, because you know, I tweeted something

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01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: out yesterday just you know, just the pictures of the

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01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 1: two roles Apollo Creed and and Chubbs Peterson, and like

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Speaker 1: there were a few people that responded like, oh, I

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01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: didn't even know he was he was Chubbs, you know,

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01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: And it's like you think of you think of a

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01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: Paulo Creed as this kind of big, tough guy and

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01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, obviously heavyweight champion of the world whatever, and

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01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: then he got chubbs like the the happy go lucky

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01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, old pro without a hand you know,

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01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: so kind of showed his acting chops by the way.

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01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 1: Apparently a very good football player as well. I'm obviously

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01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: way too young to know that to remember him playing

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, but played it at

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01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, junior college, played at San Diego State,

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01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 1: played for the Raiders. So Carl Weathers did pass away yesterday.

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: Wanted to show our respects to him really quickly. Did

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01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: you see the story out of Jacksonville with Fandel? I

2323
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: heard Martin and VJ talking about this before, but apparently

2324
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: there was a Jacksonville Jaguars employee who threw a virtual

2325
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: credit card system that the Jaguars used for expenses, ran

2326
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: up a twenty million dollar deficit on FanDuel between daily

2327
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 1: Fantasy and sports bets, and basically the Jags asked FanDuel

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01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: yesterday if they could get a refund.

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01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 4: For his.

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Speaker 1: Illegal, illegal bets, and Fandel was like, yeah, we appreciate

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01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: your interest, but no. That was a headline that definitely

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: caught my interest. Yesterday. Very interesting, very interesting story there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Something was going on in Jacksonville last year. I know, right,

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01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean that's a lot of money. I know when

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01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 3: I saw that was just like, wait, how much? I

2337
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 3: mean a stolen twenty million dollars is not something that

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01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 3: you just see. I mean they had Sam Bankman freed

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Speaker 3: down there in the Jacksonville organization or somebody that idolized them.

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01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 3: At least I know it was a lot different there.

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01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 3: But I mean he pleaded guilty to twenty two million

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Speaker 3: in theft. And I think the other thing that I

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01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 3: just find funny about this, I know now it doesn't

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01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 3: mean nearly as much as it did when FanDuel and

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01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 3: DraftKings were first kind of showing up on the scene

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01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 3: is the idea that it wasn't gambling. I find that hilarious, Like, no,

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01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 3: not gambling, but I did lose twenty two million dollars,

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01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 3: or I stole twenty two million dollars. It's just like

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01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 3: we knew what was going on at the.

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01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 1: Time, and it is what it is.

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01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 3: But bold play by the Jags going to FanDuel and

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01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 3: asking for two bills like that's or twenty bills. I

2353
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 3: guess I should say that's man, that's something else can

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01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,919
Speaker 3: and they called him the biggest loser ever on FanDuel.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be in this short conversation.

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01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's if there is a conversation that

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01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 3: he is part of, we need to have a real

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01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 3: discussion in this country about how much money's being lost

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01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 3: on Daily Fantasy, because that is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I My understanding of how most of this works

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01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 1: is it is mostly like eight, ten, twenty thirty dollars bets,

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01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: but it is like, you know, listen, you can get

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01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: out of control pretty quick. Twenty million dollars is an

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01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: awful lot. I like didn't really see. I saw the

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01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 1: headline and I didn't look into it, and then I

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01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: heard Martin and VJ talk about it. Figured it was

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Speaker 1: at least worth discussing. By the way, we got about

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Speaker 1: a minute left. Anything else we met, We covered a

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01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: lot of ground today, NBA, NFL, you know, kind of

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01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 1: dabbled in the Super Bowl stuff. Don't want to get

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01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: too deep yet because we still got three hours next Saturday.

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01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: But anything else that we did not hit on today's

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01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Today Show, Jason, I do think.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I would say is this I think

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01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 3: I think we have gone from Taylor Swift and Travis

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01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 3: Kelsey being annoying to talking about it being annoying is

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01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 3: now worse. I agree, seriously, I just kind of am

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01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 3: to the point where it's I just hope they're happy.

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01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 3: I hope it's legitimate. I hope it last.

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01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 1: I hope they get married, if.

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 3: They have kids, all the whole deal. I'd like to

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01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 3: see them end up happy and be a great example

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01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 3: of you know, husband and wife and all this kind

2384
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 3: of stuff. I have no idea if that's gonna happen,

2385
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 3: but I'm no longer being cynical and dumb about it

2386
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 3: and just listening to it has has it's become. It's

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01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 3: become much worse than just kind of thinking it's a

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01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 3: cute story and moving on.

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01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as I always say, you know, don't blame

2390
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 1: them if the TV cameras keep going on Taylor Swift

2391
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 1: like that is a TV decision out of Taylor Swift decision.

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01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 1: She has nothing to do with it. So we got

2393
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 1: to get out of here. And I think the crew

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01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: of The Rain on the board producer pat Steve de

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01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: Sager from a partner Jason Martin, I'm Aratorus, make sure

2396
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 1: to download the podcast. We'll be back next Saturday Party

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01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 1: friend as Xbox Sports thirty