WEBVTT - Ep. 312: Render - Market Hunting in Arkansas with Dr. Buckley Foster 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.200 My name is Clay Neukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.400 the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render where 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.720 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:31.280 of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.480 American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.280 to be as rugged as the place as we explore. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.199 Did you know that one of our friends just got 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:48.040 struck by lightning? 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.400 Crazy, so it's been on the podcast. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.680 Yeah, Well, I'm not open to violate hippo rules of 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.520 like giving out medical advice here, so I won't tell 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.120 you who got struck by lightning, Josh. But uh yeah, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.760 one of one of our friends just got struck by 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.600 light and it's like thunder and raining. I was checking 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.840 all the drainage on my property today tests like lots 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.720 of stress points. If it rained a little bit more, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.600 I probably would have got a little water in my 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.399 house better. That's what you have to do when you're 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.679 an adult and you have like a normal haircut, is 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.640 you as you when it rains. I learned this from 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.360 a guy that was like a better dad, father, landowner, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.520 patriarch than me. We were the same age, but one 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.319 time we were here at my house and it was raining, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.880 and he said, he was like, where's your shovel at? 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.920 And I was like shovel and he was like, yeah, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.400 this this is when you need to get out in 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.160 your yard and start digging trenches and see how the 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.720 water flows. And I was like, man, this is some 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:48.560 next level stuff. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:49.240 Yeah, no doubt. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.400 And uh it was my friend Josh Barger. I will 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.360 call his name. He had never been struck by lightning. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.720 We're never been struck by lightning. And I guarantee he's 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.200 got no drainage issues at his house. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:01.320 Nothing, wow, nothing. But so that's what you did. So 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.000 that's what I did this morning. I put on all 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.680 my my rain gear and I went outside and was 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.000 standing in the water watching it, and I man, I 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.760 got big ideas for you and me this year. Bear 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.480 on drainage out here. Welcome to the bear Grease Render. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.680 I'm very excited about today. We're going to talk about 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.799 some of these Turkey stories, but mainly we're going to 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.560 talk to Buck Foster, who's here with us, Doctor Ruk Foster, 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.160 doctor Buck doctor, doctor Buckley T. Foster. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.120 Yes, that's me and uh and I'm a kind of 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.800 doctor that don't do folks no good. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:39.680 As my grandmother would say, don't do folks no good. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.880 That's correct, Okay, that's what she said. 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.440 But because her her her grandfather was an m D 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.080 and her on the other side of the family, we 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.800 had a great grandfather that was an MD and she 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.480 I was the last. I was the youngest of the grandchildren. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.360 And she said, I want you to become a doctor. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.440 And I finally became a puh and came in and 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.320 I said, look, I'm finally a doctor, and she that's 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.680 what she came back with. You're the kind of doctor 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:07.919 that don't do folks no good. 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.239 Well, I think doctors like you do people a lot 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.560 of good. And that's why you're here. But like, if 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.480 we're looking for medical advice for our buddy that just 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.760 got struck by lightning, maybe we would go elsewhere. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.240 That'd probably be a good idea. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.800 But yeah, so we're going to we're going to be 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.240 talking about a book that you wrote called So Great 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.000 was the Slaughter, and it's about market hunting specifically in Arkansas. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.360 But I think we can extrapolate it out. I mean, really, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.440 a lot of the trends that probably happened here were 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.440 happening in a lot of parts of the country. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.600 That's correct. Actually, we're one of the kind of the 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.520 late to the party because we remain wild much longer 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:52.080 than our neighboring states. So they thin out their wildlife 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:53.960 and then they come looking for hours. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.400 Wow, that sounds exciting. I can't wait to talk about it. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.880 Turkey season is in full swing. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.320 Full swing, full swinging beard. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.200 Oh look at that shoot. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.560 I was just in Mississippi this week. So I killed 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:14.320 a turkey two days ago in Mississippi with Lake pickleady. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.160 Like taking a test. It was delicious. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.679 Yeah, we ate some of it yesterday some of this morning. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:19.680 Made a olmlet. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.560 Put a little hot sauce on there, that Alaskan hot sauce. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:23.600 Yeah. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.400 I thought it was gonna be about like tabasco or something, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:31.599 and so I like drenched it and it like overtook 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.560 you up. What I did is I is I took 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.719 the I took the drumsticks and the thighs off a 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.039 wild turkey, which a lot of people used to throw away. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.960 I mean for real, twenty years ago people breasted turkeys 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.520 and they were like that dark meat's no good man, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.320 that that is done. Like people don't do that anymore. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.760 We keep the thighs in the drumsticks. And all I 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.680 did yesterday morning was, uh, put them in a crock pot, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.080 diced up and un onion, and put barbecue sauce on 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.280 them and turned it on low in about seven hours later. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.080 You know, you could just pull that meat off with a. 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.120 Fork, sure, right out? 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.400 Yeah, you pulled a little man. A wild turkey has 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.760 some serious tendons, like seven or eight big you know, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.719 cartilaginous tendons that that hard tendons that that go down 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.200 to the feet and pull those out and then I 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.240 just chopped it up and it was good. It was 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:34.040 super good. But uh, so we did we did this 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.119 Turkey Stories episode. Were you able to listen to it? Bear, yep? 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.080 Yeah you were on there, yep. I forgot about that. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.159 Featured guests. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:42.600 Yeah. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.280 Second, what did it feel like? 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.839 The Bushwhacker about the same as the first one? The 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.400 first What do you mean the first time I was 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.760 on the Burgeries podcast? Okay, felt felt like that. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:53.880 What was Uh? 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.479 Were you able to listen to it? 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:57.479 Bushwhacker? 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.039 Yeah? Yeah, you know this this episode owed the turkey 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.520 hunting purist, which I mean, I want to be in 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.320 that group of people. There's all there's always a spectrum 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.599 of people that hunt, you know, and and there's the 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.760 guys that just kind of dabble in something, and and 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.760 then there's the guys that really take it serious and 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.040 oftentimes might care a little bit of a hint of 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.720 of uh elitism on their shoulder in the way that 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.920 things are done. I could be that guy. I'm in 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.080 that camp. I want I want things to be done. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.320 This one had a little bit of kind of redneckery 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:37.520 in the in this like like wing shooting turkeys. Uh, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.000 trent allis shooting a turkey at sixty yards like you know, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.240 you get in trouble for that these days. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:43.560 Yep. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.239 And I get it. I get it. And then Johnny 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.560 Johnston teaching us how to shoot a fly in turkey. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.720 Johnny Johnston he told me multiple stories, and two of 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.799 them involved him intentionally spooking a turkey so it flew 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.719 so he could shoot it. And I was like, what 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.680 do you mean you wanted it to fly? And he said, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.640 there's thick brush. I couldn't see him. If he runs, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.200 he gets away. If you make him fly, these Eastern 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.200 turkeys fly straight up and you shoot him. I mean, 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.320 it's like, if you want to get a turkey, that's 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.600 what you do. So so there was a little bit 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.920 of that, so there could be some criticism and then bushwhacken. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.800 There are people that are like, you shouldn't shoot a 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.760 turkey unless you call it up and it's goblin, and 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.880 that's probably pretty extreme. I mean, but I you know, 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.760 to me, if you're if you're hunting inside the boundaries 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.480 of the wall, you. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.920 Know, basically you're trying to outwit a turkey. So if 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.000 you're calling him, you're trying to outwit him, make him 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.400 think you're a hen. There just went about outwitting in 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:51.080 a different way. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:51.360 Yeah. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.880 I think it's like you kind of come into the 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.120 world and there's like a set way to kill a turkey. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.360 But like, you know, that's good. It's a pretty small box. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.320 Yeah, yeah, baron nuke breaking all the rules and and. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.679 The thing about what bear situation was is that, I mean, 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.120 you're probably not gonna just call those turkeys up like 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.679 me and Lake did on this piece of private land 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.920 that we were hunting in Mississippi. You know, that's not 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.480 getting a lot of pressure. And these birds, I mean, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.440 it's just a it's different worlds. I mean, he's hunting 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.920 over here in a place with I mean, these birds, 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.280 they're just getting pressured so much. It's like, if you 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.160 want to play the game, you try to, you play 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:34.320 the game that you're dealt, you know. But it was 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.040 an exciting if oh, and Andy Brown shooting that Jake, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.840 you know, that would that would get some get could 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.400 get nobody's going to get fired up about that. I mean, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.480 anybody that's turned down it for more than twenty years 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.480 is killed to Jake. And there's nothing you know where 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.000 it's legal, there's nothing wrong. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:52.679 With that, right. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.719 But uh, but it was a great it was a 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.480 great seria. It was a great great stories. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.600 Isn't the mark of a good hunter to overcome adapt 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.080 the situation. So if you've got high pressure birds that 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.679 won't come to a call, you figure out what works right, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.640 just like you would with any other pursuit. You figure 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.520 out what's going on. To me, it's not Yes, it'd 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.600 be great to go out there and sit down and 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.120 you know, you scout, you you sit, you watch, and 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.200 then you call them up and you kill it. I mean, yes, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:26.920 that's the way they did it. They've done it all 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.760 that way. But that doesn't mean you had to do it. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.120 If you can't, if that's not the way the situation unfolds, 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.079 then you go. I mean when I was growing up, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.920 stalking was new. Go stalk a deer. Nobody did that. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:46.120 You know. I grew up in South Logan County and 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:51.720 basically you hunted with dogs, you know, dog hunting, and 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.160 if you weren't a dog deer, if anybody got up 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.240 in a tree, we laughed at them. You know, that's 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.760 not the way. And then of course have other family 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.280 men that are with bows and this is the only 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.439 way to hunt. This is you know, you guys are 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.959 breaking all the rules. And you know what rules there aren't. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.360 There are no rules. There's no right and wrong way 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.280 to hunt unless it's illegal, right, So I've always I 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:19.080 thought that was interesting. So I appreciated Bear's story. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.720 Yeah, did any of the stories stand out to you 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.160 like you were like that was that was funny? Or 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:25.080 I enjoyed that? 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.920 Well, I mean all of them had a little bit. Obviously, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.480 everybody's after turkey. So the big one that I always 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.720 because I'm not a turkey hunter, as I said before 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.520 the podcast, my my father was a fierce turkey hunter, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.440 so I was familiar with turkey hunting and the pursuit, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.959 and I know about the repopulation efforts here in Arkansas 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.160 and when all that occurred and things like that. But 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.800 the thing that I guess hit home with me is 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:58.199 the story of getting out there and having stomach issues. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.960 Because if you spend any time whatsoever in the woods, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.239 you're gonna be there, yeah, sooner or later, and sometimes 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.800 much sooner than you expect. And it's again being out 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.559 like in the duck woods. You've got waiters to contend with. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.640 You've got ice, and many a lot of times you 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.160 have ice, not so much this year, but you have 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.720 ice and snow and all kinds of different things to 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.800 contend with. And water because you're you know a lot 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.760 of times you find yourself and waste deep water, you know, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.600 not of its not all of us have private land 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.800 and private blinds and things like that, so we basically 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.560 just set up wherever we can. So there's a whole 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.880 lot of pre planning that goes in. As as I 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:50.040 have become older, I have known that the best it's 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.079 best to pre plan, pre plan, Yes, yeah, just make 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:54.520 it's gonna happen. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.920 Yeah, this episode did have a shocking number of stories 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:58.920 of people's pants down. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.920 It's you know what's funny is we don't really I 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.600 wish I could say we planned this. We really didn't 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.199 plan it that way. But you know, the first two 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.360 stories had to do with going to the bathroom in 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.160 the woods, and then Med Palmer had to do you know, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.880 he had to take his pants off, skin. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.320 And off, and he kept saying it was super cold. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:20.319 Yeah. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.440 Yeah, but he never came, he never circled back to 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.600 it because I thought, oh my lord, he's you know, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.120 he was saying it was so cold he couldn't even 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.480 hardly see the beat on the end of his barrel. Yeah, 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.720 And I was like, and you just skinned off and 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:31.960 went into water. Yeah. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.440 Yeah, he's hardcore when it comes to turkey hunting, that 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:35.360 guy's hardcore. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:36.360 Yeah. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:42.679 I would have to say Med's story just kept compounding 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.240 and difficulty. You know, it was in Med. He has 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.719 that southern Mississippi accent, and you know, he's just kind 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.320 of funny. But when he started telling about crossing that 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.400 river on that inflatable mattress, I envisioned a river, you know, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.120 a little little river, you know, thirty yards across. He 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.240 said it was like two hundred and fifty yards across. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.240 It's like a huge river, and I would imagine it 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.080 was kind of like a he said it was shallow 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.560 for a long ways, so you know, he's just like 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.600 wading in the water. But finally in the main channel 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.680 he gets out there and off he goes, and it's 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.400 cold and and uh and then gets over there and 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:24.760 gets his turkey. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.679 But he did talk about how the wind blew him 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.400 over to that bank. I was just curious about how 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.040 he got back. Me too, That's exactly what I thought. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.440 Yeah, yeah, I guess after you got your turkey, you 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.640 just weren't really that worried about it didn't matter what happened. Josh, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.040 which story stood out to you? 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.120 I it's a it's a tough one because they were 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:50.320 good stories this year. I really I really like Trent's 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.480 story because I just think Trent is funny. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:53.320 Yeah, he's funny. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.800 But having got to meet the Clarks, yes, I mean 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.760 just they're the best kind of people, Like, they're the 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:05.240 kind of people you want to know. And they're custom callmakers. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.000 I hadn't I had them make me a beautiful custom 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.840 box call. But I think just knowing them them telling 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.719 their stories about about her being taught by him how 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.520 to hunt. She loves to go out there and kill turkeys. Man, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.520 she is a turkey killing machine. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.160 She probably undersold herself because as she talks, she's like, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.720 my husband had just taught me how to turkey hunt. Yep, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:33.200 But I mean she she's killed a lot of turkeys. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.080 When I was at their house, they showed me a 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.080 string of beards that they'd killed, and I think he 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.040 said the last nine or ten years, and they travel 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.880 all over the country, not just killing these turkeys at home, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.040 but I bet there were sixty beards on that thing, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.720 and they just they just kill turkeys together, and they 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.760 and the neat thing about him is there there and there. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.800 I think they said there were seventy two. They've been 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.200 married since nineteen seventy one, and they're just the best 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.800 of friends. They just love doing things together. So I 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.160 really enjoyed their stories. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.680 Yeah, yeah, I thought they were really good too. I'd 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:15.160 have to say, man, they were. They were all good. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:20.240 I like Johnny Johnson's story of of uh, of getting 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.000 bit in the nose by turkey. I mean it's just like, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.960 what were you doing, Johnny? And and you'd have to 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.360 know Johnny to kind of know his sense of humor. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.240 He'd killed this turkey and he he was playing with it. Yeah, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:39.280 I mean, which you know, I don't know, he's celebrating 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.320 this turkey's life and uh, but he's but he's just 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.680 just kind of like pretending like the turkey's talking and 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.280 uh and if you knew Johnny, I don't think that's 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.240 that surprising. And then the thing reaches over and bites 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.320 him in the nose so hard that it basically makes 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:54.880 him bleed. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:55.200 You know. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.280 Yeah, that that was that was funny. Yeah, that had 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.400 to be my favorite story. Oh was it really? Did 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.800 it kind of surprise you? Yeah? 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.680 I mean getting bit on the nose by a turkey 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.080 and was like you almost couldn't, you know, like think 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.560 of a way that that could even happen. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:10.000 Yeah? 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:10.880 Yeah. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.320 Uh And I love here in the way that people 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.200 talk and the phrases they use. And he he used 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.120 that phrase we went to him like a bidon sow. Yeah, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.200 and uh and when he said it, I just like 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.000 checked it off in my mind. I was like, that's good. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.080 I mean again, I mean you, I mean, something's coming 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.680 at you like a bidon sal You're backing up and running, 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.920 you know, and uh and then I asked him about 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.840 it at the end. I said, I've never heard that before. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.480 And he said, that's some serious advance. He said, coming 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.840 at you like a bouton sow is serious advance. And 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:48.720 I love that. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:49.520 I love that. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.840 But that was a good one. And then hear and 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:53.960 Andy Brown laugh. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.840 Yeah. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.560 So the guy in the story there he it was 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.480 the third story, Andy Brown. He told about the turkey 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.800 that gobbled really low, he said, and he he threw 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.359 a pine nod at a fox and then he shoots 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:11.960 the bird. He thanks the big one and it's a 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.360 jake and then he just he just cackled. He just laughed. Man. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:21.000 Andy is a he's He's been on almost every Turkey 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:26.840 Stories episode and he just just is a great storyteller. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.040 And like that was I've said this before. Most really 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.920 good turkey hunters have two or three stories that are 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.000 really good like that that they just want to tell 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.960 you sure that that just something wild happened, and there 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.840 was there was it was funnier. It was a bird 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:49.880 did something just extraordinary. And that was probably Andy's like 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.919 like uh, s story A B C D E F 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.320 G H, I j k L b q R S. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.080 He's on S. I mean like he just he just 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.919 he's uh so much and he's just a good and 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.680 he can make any story fun to listen to, just 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.840 with details like the fox and how low the turkey 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.680 gobbled and and uh and when he was telling the 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.720 story to me in person, he had he had his 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.359 arms out like he was set up this way, and 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:18.640 he said, and the. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.320 Turkey appeared over here, and I have no idea how. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.840 It got there. You know, he's just kind of he's 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:24.800 just a good storytelling. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.280 Storytellers. Best storytellers have it and you you can visualize 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.240 it in your head exactly what's going on. I saw 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.080 that fox sneaking in when he was telling the story, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.440 I was like, what are you going to do? Because 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.919 I thought it was going to lead to him shooting 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:41.639 the turkey and the fox running off with the turkey 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.000 or something like that. I was waiting, anticipating that was 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.560 what was going to happen. And I still it's always 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:52.800 been amazing. Well just like the bushwhack, I mean, turkey's 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.000 with their amazing eyesight. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:55.119 You know. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.399 One of the things I remember from my dad telling 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.520 me the story is like you cannot move, and he 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.560 would come home with these whelps across his face where 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.760 the gnats buffalo knats would bite him and he wouldn't 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.639 you know, he wouldn't move, he wouldn't swat, and he 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.359 didn't have a screen, He didn't have a anything to 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.879 mask or anything like. Yeah, like, no, he just went 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.119 out there because he smoked all the time. Anything. He 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.120 was like, the smoke is going to keep him away 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:24.440 from me, but it didn't. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:34.520 Hey, show me your dad's turkey calls, so you brought 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.400 So your dad was a turkey hunter. 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.200 My dad was a turkey hunter and evidently known quite widely. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:45.479 This is when I was really young. This is an 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.679 early box call of his and it says on the 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:52.800 bottom J. L. Foster's name is James Foster, April nineteen 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.760 sixty five. So this was a maid. He didn't make it. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.160 A fellow made it for him. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.480 Yeah, look at that. I already checked that out. If 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:01.520 you make it sound. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.040 He always carried a piece of chalk on the inside 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.719 of it and it rattled around. That's all I can remember. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.480 And of course you can see his That was a 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.960 rubber band once and it's all rotted off of there now. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:13.960 I've never seen one quite like that. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.120 Now, this is his slate. Call. Of course, it's homemade. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.960 And he didn't make this pouch. I don't know who 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.439 made the pouch for him. I'm sure it's literally, but 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.639 it's literally literally a piece of slate, a slab of slate, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:31.960 that's right. And then his striker is a cone with 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.240 a screw to the end of it. Wow, check that out. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:36.000 That's so cool. 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.080