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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Ah Right, it's a Tuesday and we are here at

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Speaker 2: One Pills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tamsker with you. It

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Speaker 2: is another toasty, toasty day out there, as we experienced

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Speaker 2: out at Bill's practice this morning. The sun is shining,

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Speaker 2: the heat index is climbing, and you could feel that

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Speaker 2: As we were watching practice today.

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Speaker 1: My line today was it, you know, in comparison, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure Hell feels air conditioned today.

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Speaker 2: Who's hot out there?

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Speaker 1: Is really hot and we weren't in pads and oh

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Speaker 1: so bad, so bad. But they are working hard. And

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Speaker 1: the way I'll say this, I've had this, We've had

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Speaker 1: this conversation on going through this training camp. They continue

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Speaker 1: to practice at a high level. They are running fast,

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Speaker 1: playing fast, working extremely hard with high energy and it's

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Speaker 1: and it's a testament to sports science and the way

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Speaker 1: they keep them hydrated and they keep them fresh and

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Speaker 1: they you know, so when they are out there, uh,

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Speaker 1: they are busting a gut to get better and you

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Speaker 1: can tell it's you've seen we've seen some progress. It's

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Speaker 1: a different group of guys out there than there was

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Speaker 1: a week, you know, five days into training camp. They

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Speaker 1: you can see the incremental changes and the differences the

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Speaker 1: Christmas of practice, the place, the plays are getting fired

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Speaker 1: off faster, everything you can tell.

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Speaker 2: One thing we should note is there were a couple

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Speaker 2: of instances three in fact, where Sean McDermott stepped in

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Speaker 2: and stopped eleven on eleven work two. He clearly saw

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Speaker 2: a teaching moment to take advantage of, especially with some

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Speaker 2: young players, and made a point in doing that not once,

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Speaker 2: not twice, but three times today. What do you think

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Speaker 2: often prompts a coach to do that more than anything.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not just about the guy who's correcting or

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Speaker 1: what he's seeing, it's about the whole thing. Two of

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Speaker 1: the three times I couldn't hear the first one it

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Speaker 1: get caught me off guard. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: that happened. They've always got this music going out there,

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Speaker 1: and if you've been to training camp, you know, because

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Speaker 1: they do that to mimic a stadium noise, you always

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Speaker 1: got you always got this den going on behind you

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Speaker 1: that you got to sift through and focus on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta focus on the concentration, Concentrate on

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Speaker 1: the communication that's being given to you, and that level

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Speaker 1: of contra concentration is a training method for doing it

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Speaker 1: in a game where you really hone in on what's

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Speaker 1: when McDermott stops praying, he blows the whistle, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who does it.

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Speaker 2: The music The.

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Speaker 1: Music like is like off and it's it's like startling

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Speaker 1: for those of us who've been you know, you're out

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Speaker 1: there and you kind of tune it, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, it's dead silent. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's everybody perks up. It's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: what happened? And Shawn's out there and he walks right

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Speaker 1: into the turn and starts talking to these guys. And

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Speaker 1: some of it had to do with the young players

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Speaker 1: and some of the defensive schemes, but it's also it

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Speaker 1: was also a mindset that he wanted them to have

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Speaker 1: situational why they did this, why and why they're coaching

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Speaker 1: the guys up in a certain way. Some of it

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Speaker 1: seems like nuance, but it's the level they're at.

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Speaker 2: And what they need to be thinking about precincts in

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Speaker 1: You always see to you and I we've been with

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Speaker 1: He'll go along and talk about the team and then

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Speaker 1: you can tell, I'm a big fan of that kid, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that guy a lot. And so sometimes you

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Speaker 1: he had take an extra minute, and everybody, you know,

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Speaker 1: was really interesting today to see him stop practicing three

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Speaker 1: different times. And I'll say this too. All three times

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Speaker 1: It kind of came across he had that coordinator thing

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Speaker 2: Well, there isn't anything he doesn't do that is not intentional. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do anything haphazard there is intentionality to everything

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Speaker 2: that he does in his workday, and we witnessed it

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Speaker 2: a few times today on the practice field. Speaking of practice,

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Speaker 2: for the first time in a week, James Cook practiced

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Speaker 2: with his teammates. Head coach Sean McDermott said that discussions

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Speaker 2: that in fact happened here today. We'll now see if

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Speaker 2: there is any new movement on a possible contract extension.

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Speaker 2: That would be the next thing we'd all be waiting

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Speaker 2: to see. We know the change in terms of his

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Speaker 2: practice participation has changed. Now let's see if that's a

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Speaker 2: signal that perhaps things have changed with respect to contract negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that is the case again, Like Maddie and I

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Speaker 2: were talking about this yesterday, Steve, fair market value has

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Speaker 2: been set. Kiraen Williams contract extension has basically told everyone

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League what a player with that

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Speaker 2: level of production over the last two years is worth

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Speaker 2: in terms of average annual salary. Just be in the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I kind of feel like the Bills

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Speaker 2: are willing to pay fair market value, so clearly the

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Speaker 2: other side doesn't want to accept it yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I don't know that this signals. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what him practicing today's signals. In reality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly a good look and he practiced well. He

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Speaker 1: looked good, and he's in shape. He's ready to go,

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Speaker 1: I mean, right, So he looked good and the reps

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Speaker 1: His teammates were all about it, you know, they were,

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Speaker 1: you know, they he was just like he's one of

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Speaker 1: the family, just like always. So I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: going to be any animosity if he if he does

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Speaker 1: if he leaves. I don't which I kind of doubt

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Speaker 1: think it's just another day. I have faith that a

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Speaker 1: for a player who has played as well as James

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Speaker 2: Like's, yeah, it's limited at best.

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Speaker 1: And I and I get it too. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: go out and find out who's representing James Cook and

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Speaker 1: see his track record is I don't know, but you know,

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Speaker 1: We know James Cook. The only guy I don't really

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Speaker 1: there's something in that. I don't know, but yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: encouraged by the whole thing. I think, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: still a long way from the opening day and and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Uh, Dion Dawkins left practice early with

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Speaker 2: athletic trainers and did not return. So we'll see if

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Speaker 2: we get an update later today or maybe tomorrow, or

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Speaker 2: maybe in advance of the joint practice later this week

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Speaker 2: with the Bears. So hopefully that's not serious. Number of

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Speaker 2: from injury, Max Harriston, who is now off crutches, Cedric

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Speaker 2: Derek Forrest and Daiquon Hardy, both nicked up in last

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Speaker 2: week's game, just did some individual work today. Cole Bishop Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Bill's also had a player transaction. They signed safety Trey

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Speaker 2: released tight end Matt Sokel. Herndon was most recently in

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Speaker 2: Colts training camp and was released late last week. Bills

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Speaker 2: are still a little shorthanded at safety, as you might

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Speaker 2: imagine after, you know, seeing all those injuries that I

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Speaker 2: just rattled off there. But Herndon's played in eighty four

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Speaker 2: games in his career, started thirty four of them, so

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Speaker 2: could do a lot worse than Trey Herndon, and at

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Speaker 2: twenty nine years of age. So Right spent most of

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Speaker 2: his career with Jacksonville up until last season, when he

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Speaker 2: week Episode two Steve of Hard Knox tonight at nine pm.

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Speaker 2: I've I've said this before on the show. I'm anticipating

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Speaker 2: a lot of Joe Anne Dreesad in this episode. The

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Speaker 2: cameras were following him around a good deal in the

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Speaker 2: last week of training camp. You saw them. They were

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Speaker 2: all over the place following the hit. He had a

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Speaker 2: dedicated crew. Whether he was doing interviews on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Crew, yeah, yeah, Hey, they're not dumb. He's a great

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Speaker 1: story man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they know a great story.

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Speaker 1: And he has turned into, if not a really good

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Speaker 1: how far he's come. He continues to get better. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'm I think the guy's

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Speaker 1: about it. We're he's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: We're just about one year removed from the preseason game

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Speaker 2: where he for all intents and purposes, put himself on

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Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. That was the second preseason

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Speaker 2: game last year in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Twell twelve tackles.

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Speaker 2: He was all over the field and look, he's got instincts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this to you can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: The guy got an opportunity. He made the most of it.

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Speaker 1: He got into a situation where the Steelers were what

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Speaker 1: they were. They were going to run it, they were

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Speaker 1: gonna do something.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They weren't a high powered offense, so they were you know,

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Speaker 1: and it was a preseason and man, for some reason,

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Speaker 1: and Dreesen saw it all. He knew it was coming.

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Speaker 1: He was all over it. He was making every tackle

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Speaker 1: and yeah, that's you can't. You have to acknowledge if

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Speaker 1: the game's going to mean something, that's what they mean. Yep,

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Speaker 1: there's your chance. We'll see what you do with it.

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Speaker 1: Oh you killed it, all right, you're on. That's it

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Speaker 1: was that simple. Yeah, And I'll say this too. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't just about the Steelers game either. The entire regular season,

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Speaker 1: Joe Andreesen was there. He was available, and he played

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Speaker 1: well when called upon, and last season he got called upon.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of instances where the game was

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Speaker 1: over and he got a play. Milana went down and

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Speaker 2: to the MAC and play Eastern Michigan. Wow, because I

435
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Speaker 2: remember I was. I was calling UB games when Ben

436
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger was at Miami Right University in Ohio, and it

437
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: was like a man amongst boys, things like we go there,

438
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Speaker 2: it's a fifty nine to three game, he had like

439
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Speaker 2: five touchdown.

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Speaker 1: You'll get the uh, really good pro football player in

441
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Speaker 1: the MAC. Well, back then, nil's kind of changed that. Yes,

442
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: it's filtered by money.

443
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Speaker 2: Twenty years ago you would get that.

444
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Speaker 1: Twenty Yes, you would get a guy like Khalil mack

445
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: at you be Antonio Brown's Antonio Brown. So yeah, that

446
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: happened back then.

447
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: But now within IL, as soon as there's a good

448
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: player at a mid major school, they get plucked off

449
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: of that roster and they're given a big conference.

450
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Speaker 1: That's right.

451
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Speaker 2: Team, job, that's right.

452
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Speaker 1: So that's the way, that's the way that works. So yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: I mean I seeing Josh it well, Eastern Michigan Michigan.

454
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Speaker 2: Max Crosby went to Eastern Michigan pass rusher for the Raiders,

455
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Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah it happens. Yeah, Uh, we are up

456
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Speaker 2: against the break here so we will step aside. But

457
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Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to be joined by

458
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Speaker 2: Ray Davis as we shift outdoors for this one pretty

459
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Speaker 2: special interview with Ray Davis live from the parking lot.

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Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot

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Speaker 2: of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. We welcome back to

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, joined by Ray

463
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Speaker 2: Davis and as close to One Bill's Drive as we

464
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Speaker 2: can possibly get. We are literally in the parking lot

465
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Speaker 2: now due to some limitations in the studio, but Ray,

466
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Speaker 2: thanks for coming out here. We got you a nice breeze.

467
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Speaker 2: It's not air conditioned, but we got you a nice

468
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Speaker 2: breeze here in the parking lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for joining us. Thank you for Lucky right now.

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Speaker 3: No sun is Beaman's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a toasty camp though, but yeah, it

472
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Speaker 1: has been toasty. Tell me about what is what's the

473
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: biggest change coming back here. You're familiar with it. The

474
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Speaker 1: young guys maybe not so much. It's got to feel

475
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Speaker 1: good to come back and have it a little bit

476
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Speaker 1: more of a in season routine.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels good to be back. You know, I'd

478
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: be able to be back with the staff, and you know,

479
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 3: the cafeteria. Obviously that's a big one for us. Just

480
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: being back, getting our mail is right, and then on

481
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: top of that, just being in your own locker, using

482
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Speaker 3: the facility, being able to go home. There's so many

483
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 3: joys of coming back. But then you miss it because

484
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: the camaraderie that you build in the dorms.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you go home, you're by yourself.

486
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Speaker 3: By yourself, and the dorms are sitting there, guys are playing, uh,

487
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Speaker 3: playing caton and playing playing games like you just build

488
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Speaker 3: that chemistry. So yeah, you miss it a little bit.

489
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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever think a performance on the field in

491
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Speaker 2: the NFL would be headlined by you kicking more than

492
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Speaker 2: running or catching a football? Did you ever think that

493
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Speaker 2: would come to pass?

494
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Speaker 3: No? No, I've had dreams about it though, but.

495
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Speaker 2: No, Okay, now I gotta ask you, so where it

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Speaker 2: Do you have any kind of background in soccer or

497
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Speaker 2: anything like that that kind of put you in position

498
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Speaker 2: to do what you did on Saturday when you kick

499
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Speaker 2: the extra point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I played soccer pretty much all my whole life,

501
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: you know, elementary school. I went to Brett Hart and

502
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: we had this thing where you have to write poetry

503
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: and you got to play soccer. So it's like so

504
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: it was like hand in hand. So I got to

505
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Speaker 3: play soccer from many years. I played it in middle school.

506
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Speaker 3: I got a chance to play a little bit in

507
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Speaker 3: high school. I was a goalie, so you know, we're

508
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: used to kicking the balls, kicking the bass so far.

509
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: So that was kind of my background on it. That's

510
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Speaker 3: why when we got the soccer shoe, it was easy

511
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Speaker 3: to put on. I knew how to kick the ball.

512
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Speaker 3: Wasn't no no toe kick guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he shrunk out of the goalies.

514
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Speaker 2: He used the laces.

515
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, you grew into it. But then

516
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: I was athletic. Those guys, all those guys are like

517
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Speaker 1: six six.

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Speaker 3: Man, What did they say? What's it saying hard over height?

519
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Speaker 1: Okay? Or is it not the size of the dog

520
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Speaker 1: in the fight? The fight and the dog?

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What's going to be different about the offense this year?

523
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Speaker 1: What are you noticing that maybe's happened a little more,

524
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: a little less, a little different.

525
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I mean, besides some of the new

526
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: accusations we obviously got, I think it's still the same mantra.

527
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: Everybody eats, right, you know, everybody's gonna come in and

528
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: do their part. And I think Joe as an offensive coordinator,

529
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: his job is just to put everybody's skills, you know,

530
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Speaker 3: on display. And I think that would we continue to

531
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Speaker 3: do that with having seventeen back there, you know, leading

532
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Speaker 3: the charge and you know you got four. You got

533
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys who just are used to who've

534
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: been in the offense for so long. Now, we got

535
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Speaker 3: to get the guys who's knew to get acclimated to

536
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Speaker 3: so when this time for them to eat, we could

537
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Speaker 3: be able to celebrate them and continue to get this

538
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Speaker 3: boat moving.

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Speaker 2: How nice was it to get kind of James back

540
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: into the fold? I mean that trio that you guys

541
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Speaker 2: ran with last year, as we know, was super successful.

542
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: You're gonna run it back again this year. How nice

543
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: is it to get him back in the fold and

544
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Speaker 2: just into you know, the run of practice.

545
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's good to see James out there.

546
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: It's always good to see James out there. That's how

547
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: you know we got some exciting things happening, you know,

548
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: when he's using his playmaking ability. Then obviously again having

549
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: Tie Todd being our third down back, and protection and

550
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: running route. So to have all three of us back

551
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: there has been pretty good to have James back. But

552
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Speaker 3: you know, truth be told, I think there are so

553
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: many good things with having three guys when you have

554
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: a running back by committee, guys are healthy, guys are fresh,

555
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: and we all bring a different asset of skill to

556
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: the game. And when you don't know who can do what,

557
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: that's scary for a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: So I know this might be a little getting out

559
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: a little ahead of the game here, but this next week,

560
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Speaker 1: in the next couple of days, you're gonna be head

561
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Speaker 1: of Chicago. A couple of days of practice with those

562
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Speaker 1: guys travel. How did how what's the message you've been

563
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Speaker 1: getting about getting prepared for that? I know they're kind

564
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Speaker 1: of you're just trying to take it one play at

565
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Speaker 1: a time, forget about it even tomorrow until today's over, right,

566
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Speaker 1: But how's that on the horizon? What are they told

567
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: told you about starting to get ready for the Chicago trip?

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Speaker 3: The most they told us is worry about August twelfth. Yeah,

569
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: that's kind of the most. That's what we talked about today.

570
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Speaker 3: Just worry about today, you know, be realre if it

571
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Speaker 3: is and you know, when we get there is when

572
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Speaker 3: we get there. But it's a chance to compete. It's

573
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: a chance to compete. It's a chance to just go

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Speaker 3: out there and dominate and practice. And when you get

575
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Speaker 3: the practice against people who you get to play against

576
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Speaker 3: that upcoming Sunday, you get to see your opponent hand

577
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Speaker 3: to hand and see what they're good ass see what

578
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: their their tendencies. I think that's pretty good for young guys.

579
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: It was pretty good for me last year when we

580
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: went to Pittsburgh and it felt a sense of confidence

581
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Speaker 3: be able to go out there and play against them

582
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: when we practice and then let the game transition, let

583
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Speaker 3: the practice transition to the game. So we're focusing on

584
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: right now, but you know, when that time comes up,

585
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: be ready.

586
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Speaker 2: What was the general consensus from the coaching staff after

587
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Speaker 2: you had a chance to review the game film offensively

588
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: from last Saturday, because maybe not exactly a fast start,

589
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Speaker 2: but after you guys got rolling, you kind of strung

590
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: some scoring drives together. What was the general feedback from

591
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: the coaches interviewing the game tape?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not everything's gonna be easy, you know.

593
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: I think for us, you look at our offense last year,

594
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: I think we were on the top offensive, top scoring

595
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: offenses in the NFL. Right, And that's not gonna come easy.

596
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: That's no one's just gonna give that to us this year.

597
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: That doesn't necessarily mean we're gonna be the best offense

598
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: once again. So kind of you know, one thing that

599
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: they were kind of always preaching is just we gotta

600
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: start fast, but we've gotta stay true to.

601
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Speaker 1: Who we are.

602
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: And you know, again, what we do is gonna dictate

603
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: how how how the game goes. So if we start slow,

604
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: it could be a slow game for us. If we

605
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: start fast, it could be a well fishing game for us.

606
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: So just really honing in on our details and letting

607
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: it be known, nothing's gonna be easy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Ray Davis for a hot minute.

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Speaker 1: You know, what was your thoughts when you know, what

610
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Speaker 1: was your exit interview at the postseason? What they tell

611
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Speaker 1: you about maybe do this, do that, get ready for this,

612
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: do this to your body or change your body or

613
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: get whatever whatever, and then how it goes and how

614
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: it went, how it went in the off season, and

615
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: how it's gone early in camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there were some things we wanted to

617
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: work on. We wanted to continue to get better just

618
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: being consistent in the game, from pass part of running

619
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: to catching. I didn't feel comfortable out the weight that

620
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: I was, so we you know, we came down to

621
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: an agreement where we wanted to be and once I

622
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: was able to set that plan of what they felt

623
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Speaker 3: was best and I felt was comfortable and off passes

624
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: of the game, I stayed here all off season. I

625
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: worked at our strength staff. I had a plan with them.

626
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: They had to play with me, and it was about

627
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: executing that plan. And I think coming in from training

628
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Speaker 3: camp this season and you know, still obviously still in

629
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Speaker 3: training camp and hopefully throughout the season, it'll be able

630
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Speaker 3: to show that I stayed consistent. I put in the work,

631
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to have the opportunity to go

632
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: out there and show show the world that again I

633
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: am who I am and I can really contribute to this,

634
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: to this team.

635
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Speaker 1: Give us, you know, give us some details you wanted

636
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: to They want you heavier, You want to be heavier.

637
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: They wanted you lighter. You wanted to be lighter, which.

638
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was we wanted to be lighter. You know,

639
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: I think last year, while I was the bruiser kind

640
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: of bad for us on a short, short yardage, and

641
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: I felt that, you know, I could do a lot

642
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: more than just be a bruiser, So we knocked it

643
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: down to about two to oh eight. I think throughout

644
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: the season about two fifteen two sixteen, I'm two owa,

645
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: a phil Way, lighter, fhil Way, faster and be able

646
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: to move how I want to move out two o eight.

647
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: That's kind of like my cause days. So that was

648
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: something we agreed on and I love it and I

649
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: love being there.

650
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you know, you've you've obviously had a

651
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: chance to get some extra reps on the field while

652
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: James was watching this past week and just being in

653
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Speaker 2: a state of readiness for the regular season, because that

654
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: first game is a doozy, as you know, against Baltimore,

655
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: who is going to come in here still sore about

656
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: how last season ended for them, with you guys bouncing

657
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: them out of the playoffs. When you're getting extra time,

658
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: extra reps to ready yourself for the regular season, I'm

659
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: just curious how you take that. Because you take every

660
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: rep you can get naturally to feel ready for the

661
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: regular season. You've been afforded more just by virtue of

662
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Speaker 2: the fact that Jane's been out of the practice setting

663
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Speaker 2: the last week. Do you feel any more ready? I mean,

664
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: year two, you obviously feel more ready than you did

665
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Speaker 2: as a rookie, But do you feel any more ready

666
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: you know for week one? I know it's still a

667
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: ways off, but that's what you're targeting.

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00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I feel confident. Yea, I think that's a

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00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: better word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: Ready, obviously, but I feel confident. I feel super confident

672
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: in my playmaking ability. I feel super confident in the playbook,

673
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: and I just feel super confident that they put me

674
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: out there and the fit I can execute my job.

675
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: And you know, I think year one that was that

676
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: was something I wasn't ready for. It was still up

677
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: and down. I was still kind of no you learn

678
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: as you go. Yeah, you know, I was nervous. Did

679
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 3: I wanted to be a perfectionist and understand not every

680
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: play is going to be perfect. So I feel way

681
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: more confident this year and being able to talk to

682
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 3: Joe and talk to Josh and and Tie and all

683
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: those guys and give my feedback of what I think

684
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: I'm good at. It's good to know that they're willing

685
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: to listen and try to go and make that happen.

686
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Speaker 1: Give us a list to you in the locker room.

687
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: I know, guys talk about, you know, all your hopes

688
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: and dreams about the as a team, as a group,

689
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: what are we going to do this year? Give us

690
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: a quick synopsis. I know you win the division. Do

691
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: you know how does that list look these days? And

692
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: is it different than last year? How how is the

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00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: team handling what they want to accomplish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, we live by playoff caliber.

695
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: That's one of our sayings, right and you know, we

696
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: all would love to say we want to win the

697
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: super Bowl. We want to go to super Bowl, but

698
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: you gotta again, you gotta win the division first. You

699
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: gotta win the regular season, then win the division. Didn't

700
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: get to the playoffs. So I think we're taking a

701
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: step by step. You know, we're going to focus on

702
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: the season. However the season plays out, and you know,

703
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: for blessed to be able to make it to the playoffs,

704
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: and we focus on that and so forth on. You know,

705
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: we're really close last year, as everyone knows, and I

706
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: think that that's gone, that's over with. Now we're focused

707
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: on this twenty twenty five season. And whatever the outcome is,

708
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: I think we'll just be blessed and happy, you know

709
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: that we put our best foot forward and put out

710
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: the best offense and defense and team that we can

711
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: for a twenty twenty five NFL season.

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00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: Last one for me, Ray, you mentioned the new acquisitions,

713
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: and it looks like Joshua Palmer and Elijah Moore a

714
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: kind of you know, working their way in and finding

715
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: their niche within the scope of the offense, which I

716
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: have to imagine isn't terribly easy when you have one

717
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: that was as successful as yours was last year. It's like, well,

718
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: where do I fit in here? How do you feel

719
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: like those guys are acclimating to this new offense in

720
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: this new environment for them.

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Speaker 3: Very well, you know, just coming looking at from outside

722
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: in and looking at Joshua Palmer getting too the routine

723
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: working with josh I think we all saw it on

724
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: hard knocks last last week where they were trying to

725
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: build that connection on the fade ball. So seeing that

726
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: they're putting that work after practice, so those two could

727
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: really connect. Same thing with being you know, being in

728
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: a slot, being outside kind of mixing around, seeing his

729
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: skill set and what he brings to the table. I

730
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: think they're going to be great accusations where there aready accusations.

731
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be great people for offense and

732
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Speaker 3: what they can do. And Josh is a Josh. Joshua

733
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: Palmer is you know, a great guy. He's quiet, but

734
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: he works hard. And I think a lot of our

735
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: receivers are seeing that veteranness in him of coming in

736
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: and grabbing his hard hat doing what he has to do.

737
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: So both of those guys are huge, huge pickups for us,

738
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get tu to be huge throughout the season.

739
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: Ray, thanks for coming on, man, appreciate it's good see

740
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: you again.

741
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you. Thank you.

742
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: All right, that's Ray Davis joining us here in the

743
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: parking lot at One Bill's Drive. Wherever we are, Ray

744
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: is there with us, so we appreciate you. Shifting locations.

745
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: We'll take a break and be back with more here

746
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: on One Bills Live, presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

747
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, back here on One Bill's Live.

748
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: Good conversation there with Ray Davis and Steve. Since you

749
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: weren't here yesterday, I thought I would pick your brain

750
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: a little bit just about guys that you felt caught

751
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: your eye in the preseason opener, you know, last Saturday.

752
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: Anybody kinda I.

753
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: Hate Flash, No, I hate to say it like this.

754
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I was more interested in, like I thought, the two

755
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: tight ends haws and I can't what's the other one? No,

756
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: the big toll guy, oh h Davidson. Davidson. I know

757
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: they struggled like they had too many drop passes in

758
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: that game. And I'll say this too, I understand how

759
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: it goes. I remember the mindset you got to get

760
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: out of as a young player just to relax and play.

761
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: Those guys were they seemed too tense to cut loose

762
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: and play. We've seen him play and practice much better

763
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: than they played in that game. There are other guys

764
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: who you know, you know, I was more I was

765
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: looking at that game with a real critical eye, so

766
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I was having a I did not see guys Flash

767
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: like I would have liked. I gotta be honest. I

768
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: know it's the first preseason game, so maybe maybe I'm

769
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm cynic.

770
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: That's usually me.

771
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm usually this right.

772
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: You're you're the optimistic guy.

773
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: You're the You're the hard cynical media type.

774
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: Easily Yeah, cause I was. I was impressed with a

775
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: lot of guys in the defensive front were in that game. Yeah,

776
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: I really liked what Bosa did early, just in terms

777
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: of setting the run front and impacting the pass rush.

778
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: I thought Michael Hoyt was all over the place causing problems,

779
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: being disruptive. Milano looked like he was shot out of

780
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: a cannon earlyer in that game.

781
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Milano was a guy. Now you mentioned I thought Milano

782
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: played extremely well. He seemed like Matt Mulano.

783
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andresen had a good performance reading the run game.

784
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean he triggers and he is going. TJ. Sanders

785
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: had a handful of good plays. We saw Dion Walker

786
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: flash there on the batted pass near the end zone.

787
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: Solomon had some good rushes. So the guys in the

788
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: defensive front I was very encouraged by. And then in

789
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: the back seven, the undrafted rookie Kante Jenkins was out

790
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: there with the second unit. He's lining up right next

791
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 2: to Andres. Kid's making a move.

792
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Shack's been injured, Shack Town Shak Thompson. So you know

793
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: he's Dorian Williams for that man they've so he's got

794
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: some reps and maybe that has a little to do

795
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: with it, but he didn't look out of place, Nope, you.

796
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Know, nope. And then Hancock on the back end, I mean,

797
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: he comes running twenty yards across the field and Deck's

798
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: a running back out of bounds over the giant sideline,

799
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: like he didn't just get there. He walloped that guy.

800
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, yeah, more of that.

801
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: Please, if you know, yeah, if you know what I mean,

802
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: it's he didn't just get there, he showed up.

803
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh so I mean not the guy three yards over

804
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: the sideline.

805
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, sir, I have another time you and

806
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I are talking you and I believe that it's time

807
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: to start watching that dude. Oh yeah, it's time to

808
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: start taking an interest in.

809
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: His He's you know, media was asking about him today

810
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: and you know there he's still going to line up

811
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: and play two positions, both nickel and free safety. He

812
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: was playing a lot of free safety last week due

813
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: to the fact that they didn't have rap they didn't

814
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: have Bishop. Those guys are both out injured, so they're

815
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: shorthanded at the position, so they needed him more there

816
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: as well as cam Lewis for that matter.

817
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: We yeah, so wow, well she looks.

818
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: Very comfortable playing in center field.

819
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: Back there, I'm the injuries are i don't know what

820
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: you call it, the pebble in the in the calm pond.

821
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: The ripple effects of these injuries are causing it to

822
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: get a little bit wavy and a little confused on

823
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: the surface of this pond. Because now you've got guys

824
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: taking a lot more reps like Counte Hancock. These guys,

825
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: it's and they're not falling down.

826
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: No, They're making the most of the opportunity.

827
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: It's not like they're like, we can't wait till these

828
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: starters get back. None of that's going on. They're like,

829
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: all right, let's try this now.

830
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

831
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's really interesting. We thought we had a

832
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: good idea of how this training camp was gonna evolve

833
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: and come through. It has started to evolve into something

834
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: other than we thought it would.

835
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, players who I thought flashed, you know, maybe

836
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: they didn't have enough time on the field to do more,

837
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: or you know, they just flashed and maybe they make

838
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: progress or take another step. In the second preseason game,

839
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Dion Walker, who I mentioned, you know, had that great

840
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: pass rush that's the pass out of the air, Chase Lunkt,

841
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: who was playing some left tackle and some guard. They

842
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: actually ran a play where they had him execute the

843
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: blocking assignment. We see Dion Dawkins do all the time,

844
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: pulled all the way from the left side, came up

845
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: through the right side, sealed the block seven eight yards

846
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: on the run play. That's a win.

847
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: We saw that on our broadcast too, where both he

848
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: and the and whoever they had two guys coming out

849
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: and pulling around on the right side of the offense

850
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: and it was very well executed.

851
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: Saw a lot of Regie gilliam and I thought he

852
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: was effective in the time that he played. And I

853
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: was talking to Steved practice today. Late last year, we

854
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: saw a lot of eye formation and offset eye from

855
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: this offense. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a

856
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: lot more of it again this season, because I think

857
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: they they liked some of that. They utilized some of

858
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: that in like some blowout victories, and then all of

859
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: a sudden we saw more of it late in the season.

860
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: I was like, hmm, I think they like it. Well.

861
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: They put all they got, all these tools in the toolbox.

862
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're gonna do it all the time

863
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: every week. But if you get and just between us,

864
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: you get into a game against a soft defense like Miami, Yeah,

865
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: let's go ice offset eye and let's just beat him up.

866
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't want any part of it. Or

867
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: they have shown let's see if it's their lack of enthusiasm. Right.

868
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: They may be different this year, but they they were

869
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: sawt last year. Yeah, so you know, you just you

870
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: know what, I got a we got a remedy for that.

871
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna put Reggie gilliam on the field right with

872
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: Jackson Hawes and knocks and men. We're gonna go. We

873
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: will see you.

874
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: We'll see other guys that I thought flashed. Kaleki Latu

875
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: made a couple of plays on offense late in the game.

876
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: Also played a lot on special teams and looks like

877
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: he's a big guy, but he can run like he

878
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: can go down and cover. So that impressed me.

879
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: What did you think about the new kickoff they're putting

880
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: it in now it's the preseason, and they did this

881
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: last year too. They put it in play last year.

882
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Think the league said, hey, let's have some kickoff returns.

883
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Then when the regular season got here, they kicked it

884
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: through the end zone. I don't know if they're going

885
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: to do that.

886
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see touchbacks even last weekend.

887
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think because here's the thing, here's what teams

888
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: we'll think about. You weigh the risk. Certainly, if you

889
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: tackle the guy nine times out of ten, maybe nineteen

890
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: times out of twenty, maybe ninety nine times out of

891
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: one hundred, you're going to tackle him inside the thirty five,

892
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: So you're gaining whatever percentage that is on a drive start.

893
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: And sometimes you get him inside the thirty, sometimes you

894
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: get him inside the twenty five, or sometimes even more

895
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: right if the guy mishandles or whatever. So give way

896
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: your ability to get gain ground on field position, whatever

897
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: that is, with the risk of giving up the big one.

898
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 1: I think teams are gonna if head coach are gonna

899
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: make the deal. I said, listen, we're gonna we're gonna

900
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: kick it and put it in play. We trust you

901
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: guys to tackle him short, let's go. So I think

902
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of that with teams playing

903
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: percentages like that.

904
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: Last couple of guys I saw that flashed to Corey Couch,

905
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: who played a lot more at nickel corner, especially after

906
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: Tarren left the game, even though he was cleared by

907
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: the independent neurologist to return to the game, you just

908
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: knew he wasn't gonna come back. So to Corey Couch

909
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: plays a lot more at the nickel than people thought.

910
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: And I thought he did okay, and then Dwayne Carter

911
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: flashed up front. Well he doesn't, you know, always get

912
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: a ton of reps. But man, you notice him. I

913
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: just think he reads plays very well. He's very He's

914
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: a very good anticipatory player, and I think it puts

915
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: him in position to make plays at or behind the

916
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I think he's very good at that.

917
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I think something we haven't seen too much, and maybe

918
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: you've seen it more than I have. TJ. Sanders and

919
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter. I'm kind of liking them.

920
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Dean Walker too or no?

921
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Just those just no.

922
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: I like wins quickly.

923
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they both bring something out. Carter was a little

924
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: bit derailed last year in his first year injury, but TJ.

925
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: Sanders and Dwayne Carter are gonna. I think they're gonna

926
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: be a part of this team for the foreseeable future.

927
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Dion Walker, I think he's in a deep pool with

928
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: some really talented players, and he's gonna get some opportunities.

929
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: But I think those two Sanders and Carter, I think

930
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: are going to be heavy rotat in the rotation this

931
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: year right out of the gate, with especially with Ogan,

932
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: Joebi and Hoyts thing.

933
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason where why you kind of

934
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: have to get those guys ready to roll in light

935
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: of how things are gonna look come week one, two, three, four, five,

936
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: and six. No One, Hoyd and Ogan Jobie aren't part

937
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: of the equation being on the reserve suspended list. Gotta

938
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: take a break here when we come back. Our number

939
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: two begins with our good friend Greg co Sale, senior

940
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: producer from NFL Films. We're gonna run through some of

941
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: those players from preseason game number one and see what

942
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: the film told him about their performance. Next One Bill's

943
00:46:24,960 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

944
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

945
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: Our number two on a Tuesday. Chris Brown Steve Tasker

946
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: with you, and you know football is getting close when

947
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: this guy shows up on our show. NFL Film senior

948
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: producer co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show and everybody's

949
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: favorite film evaluator, Greg co Sell, back for another season.

950
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: How are we doing, Greg, how's your summer been.

951
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: No, summer has been good, Brownie. You know it's it's

952
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: getting to be that time of year. You know, we've

953
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: we've started these preseason games, which you know, I know

954
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: that everybody has to make a final evaluation on every

955
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 4: play and determine a guy's career based on every single play.

956
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 4: That's where we are in the preseason.

957
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got to first look all around the league.

958
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: The Bills taking on the Giants here in Buffalo on

959
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: a smoking hot day, which which always catches us off

960
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: guard a little bit from where we leave off the

961
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: season usually, but nevertheless, nevertheless a getting I know you've

962
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: seen some of this, give us, you know, off the

963
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: top of your head, give us your impressions of maybe

964
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: some of the younger players that the Bills brought in.

965
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I watched. I mean the guys I

966
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: watched were Sanders and walk through the d tackles. I

967
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: watched Hancock, the rookie safety, who, by the way, I

968
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: really like that kid. I liked his tape a lot

969
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: at Ohio State you know, I thought he was a

970
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 4: really versatile player, which is the way he was kind

971
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: of used in that game. You know, I don't know

972
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: what the status of the other safeties are with injuries,

973
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: but I thought he was a really interesting player, you know.

974
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 4: So you know, those are the guys I really took

975
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: a look at in detail. I'll tell you who I like,

976
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: and you guys can tell me I'm not there if

977
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 4: he's had a good training camp. But how has the

978
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: rookie corner strong been in training camp? Because I really

979
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 4: liked his tape in college and I think he's he's

980
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: got really good corner traits.

981
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done well. I would say his second week

982
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: of training camp was probably his best stretch. Had an

983
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: interception and a pass breakup over the course of the week.

984
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: And he's rotated up for more reps with Harston being

985
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: out with the springdalecl so he's got higher quality reps

986
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: against conceivably better competitions. So and you know, as you know,

987
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: the Bills love length at cornerback, and he has that,

988
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, at six' one ninety five, and he's got

989
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: long arms.

990
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 4: Yeah no, and he's you know, he played a ton

991
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: of press in college. At Virginia Tech, and he's a

992
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: very very good press man corner. I think he can

993
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 4: play press ball as well. You know, I guess the

994
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: issue for a lot of guys like that Brownie, and

995
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: we talked about this with coher Elam, who's obviously no

996
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: longer with the Bills, is the issue for guys that

997
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: play so much press in press in college is to

998
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: really understand the subtleties and nuances in details of playing zone,

999
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: because zone is a much different animal than playing press.

1000
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: What did you think of Hancocks Davia against the Giants?

1001
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 4: But I liked it. I mean, I like the way

1002
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 4: he plays, you know, you know, I think he's an

1003
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: aggressive player. You know, the play that actually stood out

1004
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 4: to me. They used him three or four times as

1005
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 4: a blitzer, obviously, but I really thought that the play

1006
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: that stood out to me was a play he didn't make.

1007
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: But I think it was the second play of the

1008
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: third quarter where he showed some physicality running the alley

1009
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: from the back end in the run game and really

1010
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: took on a block with some force. Now, as I said,

1011
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 4: he didn't make the play, but you know, I just

1012
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 4: think that he's there's an aggressiveness to him. There's a

1013
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: tenacity to him, there's a competitive toughness to him, and

1014
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 4: I think that there's a versatility to him. He can

1015
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: play on the back end, he can play in the box.

1016
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 4: He's physical. I think he can even play post say

1017
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: at times. So you know, again, you know he's a

1018
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 4: he's a later round pick, so you never know how

1019
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: all that plays out. I know is Cole Bishops is

1020
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: he still injured or did he just not play it.

1021
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: He's working his way back. He's got a quad injury

1022
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: and he's missed over a week of action. So yeah,

1023
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: it's part of the reason Hancock got pressed into action.

1024
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: Cam Lewis started the game with Damar Hamlin and then

1025
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Hancock came.

1026
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 4: By the way, Cam cam Lewis looked great in that. Yeah,

1027
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: for whatever it's worth, the preseason game, but he was

1028
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 4: he I love the way he also played downhill in

1029
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: the run game. He made a number of tackles with

1030
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 4: physicality and toughness. But you know, then again, last year

1031
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 4: when he played, I thought he was a really nice

1032
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: sort of piece because obviously he wasn't a true starter.

1033
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 4: But when he plays, he shows up.

1034
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's interesting is Cam as well as Hancock

1035
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: are being cross trained. Well. Lewis has already done it

1036
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: playing nickel and safety, but they have Hancock playing nickel

1037
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: and safety too, And they said there's a timetable on Hancock,

1038
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: so there might be a time where they just hone

1039
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: in on one position for him, but for now he's

1040
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 2: still handling too.

1041
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about Hancock as a nickel?

1042
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: He played some in college. It wouldn't be new to him,

1043
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: you know, he did that before. It's not brand new obviously,

1044
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: playing in the NFL as a whole new experience. My

1045
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 4: guess is over time that he'd be able to do it,

1046
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 4: you know, as Brownie suggested, there's you know, they're working

1047
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: with him. There's a timetable, you know, I don't know

1048
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: when they'd feel comfortable with him in that role. It's

1049
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 4: obviously a team that plays a high percentage of nickel,

1050
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: you know, with Taran Johnson being a really good nickel,

1051
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 4: not only from a coverage perspective but from a run

1052
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 4: defense perspective, which is really important for this defense because

1053
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 4: there are times, depending on your front, where the nickel

1054
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: has a b gap responsibility in the run game. So

1055
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 4: you know that's an inside gap as you know Steve,

1056
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: so you know Johnson can handle that. He's done that

1057
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: for the last number of years. You have to be

1058
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: able to do that to play Nickel in this defense.

1059
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned you watched Sanders and Walker. Sanders is

1060
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: a guy that we've seen in camp already. You want

1061
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: to talk about winning early in the down. Sometimes sometimes

1062
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: he beats guards before they're out of their stance. What

1063
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: did you see from him in this game in particular?

1064
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: Ah, he did that in this game as well. I

1065
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 4: mean he was the one that got to Dart obviously

1066
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: on the touchdown to Humphrey. But you saw that right there.

1067
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: That's what he was in college. I mean, I loved

1068
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 4: him coming out and I thought he was more of

1069
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: a pass rusher at this point in his development than

1070
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: a run player. But I think that he has the

1071
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 4: ability to do that. So the quickness and he plays low.

1072
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: You know, it was really interesting Brownie watching because because

1073
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 4: obviously Sanders and Walker played almost all their snaps together,

1074
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: if memory serves me correctly, and I have to tell

1075
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: you that Sanders plays really low. He's so quick off

1076
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: the ball, He's got quick hands and feet. He plays

1077
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 4: off contact really really well, whereas Walker and you know

1078
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: this is this was the concern. It's the reason he

1079
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: was a fourth round pick and not a higher pick

1080
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: is he has a main big tendency to play too high,

1081
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: and that's just hard to fix. I mean, I'm not

1082
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: a coach, and I'm not going to sit here and

1083
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 4: say he can never play in the league. I would

1084
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: never say that about any rookie. I don't. I don't

1085
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: do that because I just don't talk like that. You

1086
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: never know how things go from here on. But that

1087
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: tendency to play too high, you lose all your power

1088
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: and you lose all your quick your initial quickness. So

1089
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: that's something I assume that they're working on because he's

1090
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 4: for a man that big, he's a really good athlete.

1091
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: And also there was a guy who got his his

1092
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: career off to a hard start last year, Dwayne Carter.

1093
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: He was, you know, you have the wrist injury last year.

1094
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: Took him a while to get back. He is also

1095
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: back in there. We've seen during training camp Dwayne Carter

1096
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: and TJ. Sanders and of course a little bit of Walker.

1097
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: These guys are flashing once in a while. What are

1098
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Carter if any, Yeah.

1099
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 4: Carter to me watching him come out of Duke, he

1100
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 4: struck me as a solid, rotational type player, Steve, not

1101
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 4: a full time starter that you put out there for

1102
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: sixty snaps, which obviously, on the Bills the way they're constructed,

1103
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be doing that anyway. But he struck me

1104
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: no matter where, he would play as a rotational player

1105
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: and be a solid guy, probably not a true pass rusher,

1106
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 4: but just one of those guys that I think every

1107
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: defensive line needs to have, you know, just one of

1108
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: those solid, professional type players. That's the way he struck me,

1109
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 4: all right.

1110
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: So offensive side of the ball, Tyrell Shavers is now

1111
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: in his fourth season with the Bills. Three of them

1112
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: have been on the practice squad, although he got called

1113
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: up for a few games last year. Scored his first

1114
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: time touchdown, and it's interesting that he offers some different

1115
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: kinds of skills to the receiving corps that they're not.

1116
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: They don't have in great numbers. I guess I'm getting

1117
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: at the size element here, because it's keyon Coleman, you know,

1118
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 2: and a bunch of guys you know that are six

1119
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 2: foot and under and Shavers is a legit six', four

1120
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: and we see him turn in a big play at

1121
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: the end of the. Half BUT i think he's sharpened

1122
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: up his route running and his release is off the.

1123
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: Line this. Year he looks even more consistent with that

1124
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: part of his game this.

1125
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 4: Year, yeah, well it's funny you mentioned. That you, know

1126
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: obviously he has, size and he has stride, length which

1127
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 4: certainly becomes a factor when he has free, access which

1128
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: he had on that fifty eight yard reception that you.

1129
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: Mentioned and he actually ran a good route that was

1130
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 4: a deep, post But i'm sure you recall he used

1131
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: his vertical or release to stem outside and he got

1132
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 4: the corner turned and then he redirected inside with some.

1133
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: Juice there was also another play which was an. Incompletion

1134
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 4: is that it was actually a quick. HITCH i think

1135
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: it was on the left side of the field WHERE

1136
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 4: i thought he did a really good job of getting

1137
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: off the line versus, press AND i thought he showed

1138
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: some natural quickness for a man that. Size so it'll

1139
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: be interesting to see how that plays. OUT i would Assume,

1140
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: BROWNIE i don't know. THIS i don't study it because

1141
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: he he plays on special, teams.

1142
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: Right, yes he.

1143
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: Does, Yeah, yeah SO i assume you know if he's

1144
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: a good special teams, player and he can continue to

1145
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: show as a. RECEIVER i, mean if the season were to,

1146
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 4: start you, know truly start, tomorrow what the receivers would.

1147
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: Be it would Be, coleman it would Be, shakir it

1148
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: would Be, palmer, yep who would? Be who would? Be

1149
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 4: would it Be Curtis?

1150
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: Samuel samuel he's, Healthier Elijah.

1151
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 4: Moore, interesting So. SHAVERS i, mean he would have a

1152
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 4: little bit of an uphill, Battle but it depends on

1153
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: how much of a core special teams player he.

1154
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: Is and that's also. Too you got to other wide

1155
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: receivers of, course special team as a return. Guys Leviscus, chanault.

1156
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: What are your?

1157
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: Thoughts and HE'S i GUESS i was wrong on. HIM

1158
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: i did him two years coming out Of, colorado AND

1159
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: i really liked his. Tape now, AGAIN i guess teams

1160
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 4: didn't see him as a quote unquote true pure receiver

1161
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: because they've never really lined him up that. WAY i

1162
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: shouldn't say, never that's too strong a, word but it

1163
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: seems like everybody you know trying to deal with him

1164
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: as a kind of almost a gimmick kind of, guy

1165
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 4: like move him. Around BUT i really liked him coming.

1166
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 4: Out you, know Maybe i'll turn out to be wrong

1167
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: up to this, POINT i certainly, am you, know but

1168
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: he's he's, big he's, physical he's got some some juice to.

1169
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: HIM i mean, this we're not talking about a guy

1170
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 4: that doesn't have.

1171
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: Traits, yeah AND i just was interested because he's been

1172
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: relatively quiet in training. Camp, now he missed the first

1173
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: few days because he was ON i can't even remember

1174
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: non football injury OR pu one of. Those so he

1175
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: missed the first few days and didn't really flash at

1176
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: all in the first two weeks of. Camp then we

1177
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: get to this first preseason. Game he's used on kick,

1178
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: return punt, return punt coverage as a gunner two point conversion,

1179
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: attempt and then he's utilized on the offense as a.

1180
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: RECEIVER i was just it was very interesting to see

1181
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: him used in the number of ways that they choose

1182
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: to deploy him in preseason game number, one despite missing

1183
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: three or four days at the start of.

1184
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 4: Camp, yeah and that's sort of been his whole career

1185
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 4: up to this. Point is he's never really been used

1186
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: as a, receiver you, know almost exclusively as a. Receiver

1187
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: he's been used in so many other, ways AND i

1188
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: guess that's the way the league saw him because he

1189
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: just hasn't been used that. Way, so you, know BUT

1190
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: i really liked his tape coming. Out, obviously even if

1191
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 4: he does make the, team it's not as if he's

1192
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 4: going to be a top three receiver within this, group

1193
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: so you, know we'll see what would. Happen but if

1194
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: they see him as a return guy and if he's

1195
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 4: really good as a gunner in, coverage then he has

1196
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 4: a chance to make, it you, know as a as

1197
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 4: a core special teams.

1198
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: Player it could be that he's so such a versatile.

1199
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: Athlete i'm a return, guy a coverage, guy a wide,

1200
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: receiver slot, guy what have. You the problem is where

1201
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: do you where you going to give him most of his?

1202
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: Snaps and if you start giving him snaps in one,

1203
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: spot the other four spots suffer because of. It brownie

1204
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: AND i even had the conversations he might be AND i,

1205
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: think putting finger quotes, up he might be a. Gamer.

1206
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: Uh he has not flashed in, practice, right but you.

1207
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: Noticed him in the end and the.

1208
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: Games the, guys you, know guys, everywhere SO i don't

1209
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: he might be one of those guys that you never

1210
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: really get an sense of what he can do until

1211
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: they call on him in a. GAME i don't know

1212
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: what the what that, is but his versatility seems to

1213
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: be his greatest.

1214
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 4: Asset, yeah and it's it's almost you, know a player

1215
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 4: like that in his in HIS nfl career has been

1216
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: Quote Aryl, patterson and you know who's always seems you

1217
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 4: know he's gonna play ten twelve years in the, league

1218
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: and he's had good. Moments but you, know Maybe chanol

1219
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: is going to turn out to be one of those.

1220
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: Guys the problem with those guys is you have to

1221
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: really have a sense of exactly how you're going to

1222
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 4: deploy them because otherwise they don't make the team because

1223
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 4: they're not really one position where you, say, hey this

1224
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: guy is this guy and this is where he's gonna.

1225
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: Play so you, know you have to figure out do

1226
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 4: you have a spot for that, Guy which is why

1227
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: the special teams, ELEMENT i, mean don't forget. Guys now

1228
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 4: all of a sudden kickoff terms returns have become a

1229
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: big deal again in the. League so that that is

1230
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: you don't want to lose games because of. That.

1231
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah the story too is if you're if you're doing

1232
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: five different. Things you're the last guy at the position,

1233
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: Group you're the last wide receiver on the. Roster you're

1234
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: the last you're the kick, returner you're the punt. Returner

1235
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: you never see any down in distant snaps unless you're

1236
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: covering a punt or on the punt return. Team so

1237
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: it's your role is limited just because of the roster

1238
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: spot you've. TAKE i, mean is this?

1239
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: Brownie does this come? Down AND i mean, again we

1240
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: still have more training camp in two preseason games to,

1241
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 4: go so we don't want to. Prejudge but do you

1242
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 4: see it as potentially coming down to Between channaul And? Shavers?

1243
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 2: Uh if they only keep six.

1244
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: Receivers, yes they've Got Brandon codrington as a return guy

1245
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: that he was very good last. Year But chinault is

1246
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: big and he'll break. Tackles, Ye codrington. Won't and a

1247
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: bigger guy a lot of times equals durability as. Well

1248
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: and if you're getting more kickoff, Returns codrington is more at,

1249
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: risk maybe not as. Available but this is all. Conjecture

1250
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: you don't. KNOW i, mean the guy May coddrington may

1251
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: line up twenty weeks and never miss a.

1252
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: Rep, yeah it's it's one of the more interesting questions

1253
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: when they get down to roster numbers and have to

1254
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: make it fit and are you going to rob From

1255
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: peter To paul at one position to carry an extra

1256
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: guy in another. Position there there's gonna be some very hard.

1257
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: DECISIONS i think there's gonna be a lot of roster

1258
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: gymnastics by this coaching staff because there's a lot of

1259
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: people that can play in this league that are not

1260
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: going to be on this.

1261
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: ROSTER i think question for, you Who's Who's Keanta? Jenkins

1262
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 4: he showed up on this.

1263
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: Game, yeah we were talking about him today watching.

1264
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: Practice, yeah nice, player undrafted rookie out Of Virginia. Tech

1265
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: and he's impressed and he's leapfrog a couple of people

1266
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: on the depth, chart including last year's six round Pick Eddy.

1267
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: Yulefotio But Shaq thompson has been out with a hamstring.

1268
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: Injury bernard was just getting back from a hamstring. Injury

1269
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: they didn't want to play him in the, game and

1270
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: he took advantage of. That he's been. Noticeable there was

1271
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: a practice last week where he had an interception and

1272
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: a pass break up in the same. Practice so he

1273
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: has flashed.

1274
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: No and in the, game AND i thought he flashed

1275
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 4: in a good. Way in other, words he is at

1276
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 4: he's got. Burst BUT i thought he played with discipline

1277
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 4: in the run, game and that's what really stood out to.

1278
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 4: Me you, know there was one play in, particular it

1279
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: might have been early in the third quarter WHERE i

1280
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: thought he really played with excellent, discipline ended up making the.

1281
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 4: Tackle he was very, controlled he's, long he's. Lean look we,

1282
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 4: know and everybody's. Healthy Bernard malana will be the. Linebackers

1283
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: then it's a matter of who are the backup linebackers right.

1284
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: Now Jorian williams is just getting back from injury, too

1285
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: so he's taken advantage of the extra reps that he's.

1286
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: Gotten let's go to the other linebacker, though because last

1287
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: year at this, Time Joe andreesen put on a performance

1288
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: in a preseason game Against pittsburgh and essentially made the

1289
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: roster with that twelve tackle. Effort he's now running as

1290
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: the backup mike To Terrell, bernard and it looks like

1291
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: that's going to be his job when we get to

1292
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: the regular. Season outside of his duties on special, teams

1293
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: what can you say just about his instincts when defending the?

1294
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 2: Run because he seems to trigger and he is downhill.

1295
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 4: Fast, yeah that's his. GAME i, mean he's not a

1296
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 4: pastor coveraged. Player you, know he's not, big but he

1297
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 4: plays with, physicality he plays with. Toughness he attacks. Downhill

1298
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: he for a smaller. Guy he takes on, blocks he

1299
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 4: stacks and. Sheds you, know he sees things, quickly triggers

1300
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 4: the right. Word he had that well timed run through

1301
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: shooting the gap late in the second. Quarter you, know

1302
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: that's the kind of player he. Is, now it's a small,

1303
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 4: sample AND i can't sit here and Say i've studied,

1304
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 4: him you, know in detail in the, past BECAUSE i have,

1305
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: Not So i'm not going to pretend THAT i. Have

1306
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: but it just struck me watching him that he's not

1307
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 4: doesn't have great awareness as a coverage. Player BUT i

1308
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 4: don't think that's the way they would see him. Anyway

1309
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 4: he you, know even if he, did let's Say bernard

1310
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: had to miss some some regular season games and they

1311
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 4: felt Like indresen was the, guy my guess is he

1312
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't play on third. DOWN i don't think they see

1313
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: him that, way and that's not the strength of who he.

1314
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Is i'm going to ask you to make a big

1315
01:05:53,800 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: assumption here and then answer this, question assuming That Joe

1316
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: bosa stays completely healthy throughout the, season regular season and,

1317
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: postseason how big a difference would he make to This bill's.

1318
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: Defense, well, PERSONALLY i would not play him as a regular.

1319
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 4: PLAYER i wouldn't play him fifty sixty STAPs a. GAME

1320
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: i would play him, predominantly not one hundred, percent but

1321
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: predominantly in pure past type situations because he does have

1322
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 4: unfortunately a strong history of. Injury and the last thing you,

1323
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 4: want because he's so gifted and so talented as a pass,

1324
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: rusher that you want him to be able to play

1325
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: in those. Situations you, know all three of us know

1326
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 4: that last year the down four as a pass rushing

1327
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 4: unit did not do what this coaching staff wanted to

1328
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 4: get done on a weekly. Basis so you bring him

1329
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 4: in to rush the. Quarterback so to, me you, KNOW

1330
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 4: i think he's he's a twenty to twenty five snap

1331
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 4: a week. Player maybe fans listening will, say oh my,

1332
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: god that's, crazy but you know you want. Availability you

1333
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 4: want him on the field for seventeen. Games you, know

1334
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: we're not trying to prove a point. Here you know

1335
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 4: they have a lot of defensive. Ends they drafted one

1336
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 4: In Landon. Jackson you, know they've got a bunch of

1337
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: guys to play defensive. END i would not Overuse Joey.

1338
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Bosa run defense was a little bit of an issue

1339
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: last year for this football, team and it was one

1340
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,479
Speaker 2: of the contributors to their struggles on third down last. Year,

1341
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: defensively what did you see from how the run defense

1342
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: Look taking into account, that you, know we've probably got

1343
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: no game planning going on.

1344
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 4: Here oh, YEAH i, mean, look more than likely it's

1345
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 4: going to be the same guys playing. Roundie so it's

1346
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: just a matter of you, know and unless you're going

1347
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 4: to start playing with your scheme a little. Bit you,

1348
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: know in the, past this team has been predominantly an

1349
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 4: overfront defensive, line which means it's shifted to the strong

1350
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: side of the offensive. Formation you, know unless they're going

1351
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: to start making conceptual changes tactical. Changes it comes down

1352
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: to the. People you. Know, OBVIOUSLY i Assume oliver And

1353
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 4: jones would still be the starting d.

1354
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: Tackles, correct it's looking that way at this point in.

1355
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 4: Time, YEAH i Mean oliver for, SURE i mean he's you,

1356
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 4: know so you, know you've got to those guys have

1357
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 4: to win on the, inside you. KNOW i, think you,

1358
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: know keep one thing in. MIND i Think bernard And

1359
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: i'll And milano are really good football, players but they're

1360
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 4: not big by by linebacker. Standards now you have to,

1361
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 4: decide you, know if it's if you're playing a running

1362
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 4: team and it's first and, ten you, know and you

1363
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 4: line up and you want to stop the. Run AND

1364
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 4: i think the staff probably has to think this through and,

1365
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 4: maybe you, know maybe they've decided. Already are those your

1366
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 4: linebackers in those? Situations? Now i'm not suggesting they shouldn't

1367
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 4: play at. ALL i don't want people to think, that

1368
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 4: BUT i, mean you, know you're dealing With, bernard what

1369
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 4: is he maybe two twenty? Five And milano you know

1370
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 4: he was a safety really in, college AND i Love.

1371
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: Milano, yeah historically The bills have just put a third

1372
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: linebacker on the field and played base. Right WHAT i

1373
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: want to ask you because we keep hearing rumblings about

1374
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: this in light of the advance of the run game

1375
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: last year league, wide where more teams were, drifting you,

1376
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: know away from sixty percent pass and we're more fifty

1377
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: five forty, five and The bills were fifty one percent,

1378
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: run forty nine percent pass last, year and there were

1379
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 2: other teams in the general vicinity of. That do you

1380
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: think we're going to keep drifting in that direction and

1381
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna see more twelve personnel and maybe less eleven

1382
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: personnel and more running of the.

1383
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 4: Football, yeah it's a great. Question and THEN i don't

1384
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 4: know if there's a specific you, know, Look i'm not

1385
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: going to sit here and, say you, KNOW i have the,

1386
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 4: answer you, know to that. Question but clearly there was

1387
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 4: more running in the league a year, ago you, know

1388
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 4: more and more twelve. PERSONNEL i, mean that's one thing

1389
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 4: we've seen more and more of the last couple of.

1390
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 4: Years you, know a lot of teams have played a

1391
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: ton more twelve personnel percentage. Wise so if you get more. Running,

1392
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,879
Speaker 4: LOOK i, mean obviously they beat them in the, playoffs

1393
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 4: but they open With. Baltimore you, know you know you

1394
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 4: still Have Derrick. HENRY i, Mean lamar presents a whole different.

1395
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 4: Factor you know that that separates them from just a

1396
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 4: normal running. Team but you know you're gonna you're going

1397
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: to play teams that run the, ball and you're gonna

1398
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 4: have to line up and you know you can talk

1399
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 4: about playing gaps and doing all the right things with,

1400
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: discipline and obviously that's what you want to, do but

1401
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: they're you, know linebackers have to stack and. Shd linebackers

1402
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,520
Speaker 4: have to play with. Physicality they've got to play, downhill

1403
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 4: they've got to use their arms and, hands and they've

1404
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 4: got to playoff blocks you can't just run through or

1405
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 4: you can't, avoid you. Know and defensive linemen have to

1406
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 4: control gaps or win in their. GAPS i, mean that's

1407
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: at some point it comes down to. That so the

1408
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 4: bottom line, is you, know that's what you have to

1409
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 4: be able to do to stop the running. Game you,

1410
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 4: know are there times that schematically you can do some, things,

1411
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: yes but it's also mono against mono at times as.

1412
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: Well last one for, Me, Greg James cook's been a

1413
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: story here In buffalo because of his, contract AND i

1414
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: know you Don't we're not getting into any of that

1415
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: stuff with. You What i'm asking you this is are

1416
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: The bills good enough without? Him if the worst happens

1417
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: For bills fans And James cook holds, out doesn't, play YadA,

1418
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: YadA all that Is Ty, Johnson Ray, Davis, Darrington, evans you,

1419
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: know are those guys going to be good enough Without James.

1420
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: Cook how big a hole would he?

1421
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 4: Leave pretty big one because he's a big play, Guy. Steve,

1422
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 4: YEAH i, MEAN i think you can run the. BALL

1423
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 4: i really Like Ray, davis AND i think if he

1424
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: were a quote unquote feature back in the context of The,

1425
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 4: BILLS i mean The bills, offenses AND i know the

1426
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 4: numbers were such as you, Said, brownie BUT i don't

1427
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 4: think that The bills offense is built on giving it

1428
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 4: to one guy three hundred and twenty, times even though

1429
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 4: they run the ball a. LOT i really Like, davis

1430
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 4: but they lose the explosive. ELEMENT i, mean how many

1431
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 4: times was it Against. Miami i'm trying to. Remember wasn't

1432
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 4: there that play where they got the ball and then

1433
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 4: he ran forty nine yards for a touchdown on the first? Play?

1434
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah or? Turnover the same thing happened Down, Yeah and

1435
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: the same thing happened in The San francisco snow. Game

1436
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: they got the ball back after a score and he

1437
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: snapped off a sixty five yard or one play.

1438
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 2: Four touchdowns over forty yards last.

1439
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 4: Year, yeah that's what you. LOSE i, mean you, know

1440
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 4: AND i think that that's a critical. PIECE i, mean

1441
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 4: when you have a back that can do, THAT i

1442
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 4: think that changes the calculus for you, know not only

1443
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 4: for your, offense but for defenses as. Well you know, That,

1444
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 4: STEVE i mean you played with. ONE i mean when

1445
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 4: that guy can go fifty sixty yards for a, touchdown

1446
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: it changes the.

1447
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: Game.

1448
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, greg thanks as, always good to have you back with.

1449
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 2: Us we look forward to our future conversations this. Season thanks.

1450
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 4: Guys great to be. Back love being with you.

1451
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: Guys Thanks, greg seeing your producer FORM Nfl, films great

1452
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: co sale joining. Us there are a lot of people

1453
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: who believe that we are getting to a place in

1454
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: the league play call wise on, offense where the run

1455
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: game is going to continue to. Advance And i'm just

1456
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: wondering where the tipping point is where defenses go back

1457
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,879
Speaker 2: to just playing base with three. Linebackers where is the tipping?

1458
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: Point it won't be every, week but where is the

1459
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: tipping point where all of a, sudden That nickel corners

1460
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: off the field now on first down or SECOND.

1461
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a really interesting question BECAUSE i think

1462
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: there will be always be some. TEAMS i think it's

1463
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: GONNA i don't think the pingein is going to swing

1464
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: all the way back to where it was in the nineteen.

1465
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: Nineties no where you're handing it off To thurman on

1466
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: first second, down if you get a first if you

1467
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: get a first down on second, down you're handing it

1468
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: to them. Again. RIGHT i don't think those days are coming,

1469
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: back BUT i do think they will for some, teams

1470
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: because they'll be good enough in those areas to kind

1471
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: of hammer it a little. Bit other teams will be you,

1472
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: know three, wides let's, go you're gonna have to play

1473
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: nickel against. Them the problem is going to be this

1474
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: and this is why that, team that ninety team With

1475
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: kelly And, thurmovies they'd go three, wide one back and

1476
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: a tight. End they're still running the. Ball you got

1477
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: to you gotta bear. Up that's a problem for. Defenses

1478
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: so and NOW i think the Pens i'm swinging back more.

1479
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: Traditional you're getting bigger guys on the field. Too tight.

1480
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: End like you, said twelve personnel. Fullback we were talking

1481
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: About Alec. Anderson Alec anderson And Gillian Reggie. Gillen they

1482
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: played a lot of eye and offset eye late in

1483
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: the season last. Year so offenses are putting bigger guys

1484
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: on the field because the, defense even if they put

1485
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: two three linebackers out, there two of them are safety, sized,

1486
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: Right SO i think we're getting into a little bit

1487
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: of a gray. Area and it really is a huge

1488
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: week by week roster analysis as to what you're going

1489
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: to do against that, defense.

1490
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: And by and in turn a play calling analysis, too

1491
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: because it's not just what personnel are you putting on the,

1492
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: field how are you calling? It how are you deploying

1493
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 2: that personnel to has to defend whatever that offense is.

1494
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: Thrown its gonna be if you can throw the ball

1495
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: every down out of big people and be, successful that's

1496
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: a real.

1497
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: Problem gotta take a break. Here when we come, back

1498
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna check the post practice podium Where Josh allen

1499
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: address the. Media we'll catch up with him when we

1500
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: return here On One Bill's, live presented By Kalida. Health

1501
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's. Radio back here On One Bill's. Live Chris,

1502
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 2: Brown Steve tasker with, you and time for us to

1503
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 2: go to the post practice podium where One Josh allen

1504
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: was addressing the media after Today's tuesday morning. Practice in

1505
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: order to get yourself prepared for the, season Which i'd

1506
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: like to he's gonna.

1507
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 4: Go to laugh in in a.

1508
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 5: Game you, KNOW i think we are in a good.

1509
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 5: SPOT i think that going in pract seeing it get

1510
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 5: somebody we're not. LIVE i think those are good reps

1511
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 5: to get and it's practicing to get somebody. Else so,

1512
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 5: NO i don't THINK i need preseason. Raps IF i

1513
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 5: were to get, THEM i appreciate, them BUT i don't

1514
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 5: think it's a situation where we need to get out.

1515
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 5: THERE a lot of catching up With Coach bowl over.

1516
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 5: Day oh, yeah oh, yeah a, lot a lot of good.

1517
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 5: Stories obviously very influential in my football, career and you,

1518
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 5: know very very glad to see. Him it's been been a,

1519
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 5: while but, UH i know he's doing some some cool

1520
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 5: stuff with college football right, now and he's a he's

1521
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: an awesome human.

1522
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 6: Being that'sked a couple of his Favorite Josh allen. Stories

1523
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 6: do you have a Favorite Craig bowl?

1524
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 5: Story fite Favorite Craig bull?

1525
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 7: Story Betty, Lou Betty, Lou ain't that, Right, Coach we'll

1526
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 7: keep those under, wraps said you.

1527
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: Weren't you've never been big on.

1528
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 5: Sline, no, no, Never and that was that was a

1529
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 5: point of emphasis That Coach bull tried to instill in.

1530
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 5: Me but he's a fantastic, coach but didn't do great

1531
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 5: in that aspect of trying to get or get me

1532
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 5: down to. Slide but that's my.

1533
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: Fault you're going to.

1534
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: Be inducted into the WHILE i Mean Sports hall Of.

1535
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: Fame what does that achieve it mean to?

1536
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 5: You, oh it's very very cool to be remembered. There you,

1537
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 5: Know Coach bowl And university Of blombing obviously wouldn't be

1538
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 5: here without without, Them and it's very very cool to

1539
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 5: be honored by something so close and near to my.

1540
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 5: Heart and, yeah it's a pretty cool.

1541
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 6: Achievement last, week you, know you guys wanted something to

1542
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 6: get done With james and then he wasn't in practice

1543
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 6: and he was out there for warm, ups then he

1544
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 6: was at practice. Today from your advantage, point, like what

1545
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 6: has the last week and a half? Been, LIKE i

1546
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 6: know you can't control any of, it but it's kind

1547
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 6: of been a little bit all over the.

1548
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 5: Place, YEAH i mean that's it's it's you, know as,

1549
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 5: players we have to separate sometimes the business in the.

1550
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 5: Sport you, KNOW i, know both sides thought that what

1551
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 5: they're doing is the right. Thing, Obviously we're very happy

1552
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 5: to Have jimbo out there, today AND i trust him

1553
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 5: being and what he's going to get. Done and you,

1554
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 5: know we're just very happy that he's out there with us.

1555
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 6: Right, now, knowing, hey he's back there right like it's

1556
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 6: noticeable obviously everybody's paying.

1557
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 4: Attention what does that do for you guys as a?

1558
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 5: Team, again just to have him out there and getting

1559
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 5: those reps and making sure that he's getting ready to

1560
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 5: go For game, One and again we had no doubt

1561
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 5: that he wouldn't be, ready but to be out there

1562
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 5: with the guys and sweating and battling, PRACTICE i think

1563
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 5: it's good for the team important.

1564
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: These practice reps are played practice that felt like there

1565
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: was a segment there Where keon really got.

1566
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 3: HOT i, mean have you seen him in these moments

1567
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: be able to kind of.

1568
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: Take over a little, bit especially in some of those

1569
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: one to one.

1570
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 5: Situations, Absolutely and that's what we're gonna need from him

1571
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 5: during the season is to be a big. Guy he's

1572
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 5: a big, Guy so go out there and if teams

1573
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 5: want to play you, know post high man coverage that

1574
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 5: we got to. Backside we got to have a guy

1575
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 5: that can go, win you, know he's consistantly done that

1576
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 5: at this camp and still seeing a lot of growth

1577
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 5: in his game and just the nuance to playing the

1578
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 5: receiver position and doing the things that we're asked seeing

1579
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 5: him to. Do he's taking it in stride right now

1580
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 5: and He's, uh he's having a really good.

1581
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 3: Camp is his mental side of the.

1582
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: Game you never see him overly emotional out, there or

1583
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: at LEAST i. Haven't do you notice?

1584
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 5: That, YEAH i think it's a point of emphsis that

1585
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 5: he's trying to. Make is just Like I'm i'm expected

1586
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 5: to do these. Things you, know go out there and

1587
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 5: and one run the right route and two in The

1588
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 5: ballstonia you go up there and you catch it or nobody.

1589
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 5: Does and you know he's learning that. Role and again

1590
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 5: we're gonna ask him to do a lot of things this.

1591
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 6: Season if, you, uh when you go to a joint,

1592
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 6: practice you know you've done a handful over the. Years

1593
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 6: there Was startanberg and then last year In, pittsburgh like

1594
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 6: what are you trying to accomplish in the joint?

1595
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 4: Practice you, know.

1596
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 5: You get the opportunity to see new looks go against different.

1597
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 5: Guys you. Know the number one thing, AGAIN i think

1598
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 5: everyone kind of knows about these types of. Practice sometimes

1599
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 5: they can get a little, chippy and we're not looking

1600
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 5: to go out there and, fight but we're going to

1601
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 5: look out there or going out there to compete and

1602
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: and get those competitive juices, flowing and that's that's very

1603
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 5: fun for. Me at the same, time we've got to

1604
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 5: be smart about what we're doing and in, practice making

1605
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 5: sure that we're protecting one another some.

1606
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: Ways, josh And i'll bet you control what's going on

1607
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 3: in the.

1608
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 4: Sessions you guys want words in a, game it's all evn't.

1609
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 5: Flowed you kind of like the fact that you know

1610
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 5: you can work on specific things against another team for. Sure,

1611
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 5: Yeah and again it's new opportunities to see new looks

1612
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 5: and it's not the same defensive system that we're going

1613
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 5: up against each and every practice here in, camp which

1614
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 5: is great because our defense has been one of the

1615
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 5: best units in the league last you, know so many,

1616
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 5: years so you, know it's an honor to go against

1617
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 5: our guys each and every day in. Camp but sometimes

1618
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 5: it is nice to see some fresh phrases across from

1619
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 5: the old line and cross from our receivers and utilizing

1620
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 5: certain matchups and seeing what guys can.

1621
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: Do did you see what happened With dean when you

1622
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: do he left? Practice and what are you thinking when

1623
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: when he walks off an?

1624
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 5: Egency, hope hopefully everything's all, Right but, yeah guys got

1625
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 5: to step. Up and in the, Absence i'm not sure

1626
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 5: what's going, On.

1627
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 4: Josh that's going to pactice say what's your? Discuss?

1628
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 5: OH i mean it's been extremely normal between. Us Not

1629
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 5: i'm not going to ask him to do anything that

1630
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to do or wouldn't, do OR i

1631
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 5: wouldn't do. Myself SO i understand, that you, know in

1632
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 5: his mind it was the right thing to, do AND

1633
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 5: i trust. Him but, yeah very happy to him back

1634
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 5: out there.

1635
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: TODAY i guess all, right That's Josh allen addressing the.

1636
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 2: Media Some James cook questions mixed in, there BUT i

1637
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 2: was more interested in hearing his thoughts on preseason playing,

1638
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 2: time and he essentially, SAID i don't feel THAT i need.

1639
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: Them IF i get, them happy to have. Them BUT

1640
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: i think it's just an indication on how comfortable he

1641
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: feels within the scope of the, offense the command he

1642
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 2: has of the, system AND i think he's demonstrated and

1643
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: a lot of these practices thus far that he's been

1644
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: able to get on the same page even with the

1645
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: new Editions Elijah moore And Joshua, palmer as well as

1646
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: improve the rapport With Keon coleman in the passing. Game

1647
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: SO i think with where he is, AT i think

1648
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: where he feels he is at in this offense and

1649
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: the passing game in particular timing and things of that.

1650
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: Nature it's clear that he feels very comfortable with that.

1651
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: Now coach McDermott was asked today and he, said we

1652
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: haven't figured that out yet as to Whether josh will

1653
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: play in this week's preseason Game sunday night at eight

1654
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: o'clock against The.

1655
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: Bears that's really the for me from the outs from

1656
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: our spot looking at and my experience tells me the

1657
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: only Thing josh really would want to play for us

1658
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: to get reps with new. Guys he doesn't need the offensive,

1659
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: reps he doesn't need the concept, where he doesn't need

1660
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: the practice reading. Defenses he wants to go live rep

1661
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: against somebody. Else with the new. Guys we can, see all,

1662
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: right if this is really where we're, at get that's.

1663
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: It and he may get some of that in the

1664
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: joint Press, friday where he's in a more protected situation

1665
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: because the quarterbacks will be wearing red. Jerseys nobody touched the,

1666
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks et, cetera et, cetera et. Cetera so it's a

1667
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: more controlled environment than a preseason. Game so exactly, RIGHT

1668
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: i wouldn't SO i THINK i kind of wonder will

1669
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: coach McDermott not make that determination until they get through

1670
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: that joint practice and maybe huddle Up friday night make

1671
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: a decision as to whether or Not josh is gonna

1672
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: play On Sunday nights, game because if they feel they

1673
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: got really good Work friday in the joint, practice and you,

1674
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: Know josh is not in, danger you, know of getting

1675
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 2: rolled into by a, defense you know people are obviously

1676
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: A Chicago bears defensive lineman isn't going to be as

1677
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: careful pass Rushing Josh allen as he would be With

1678
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: Caleb williams in a team. Practice it's still a, better

1679
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: more controlled environment than a preseason game where all bets are.

1680
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: Off so if they feel they get the work done

1681
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: they need To, friday he's not playing On.

1682
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: Sunday and that's exactly. Right And i'll bet you that's

1683
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: the planet get let's get draw some reps in, practice

1684
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: let's see what he looks, like and then you know

1685
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: what he looks. Good he didn't play in this, Game

1686
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: yeah he's, not and we'll give.

1687
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: It which would then probably mean in the third, game

1688
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: maybe a series he'll get because now you're close to

1689
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 2: the regular, season.

1690
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: He'll get ten snaps in The tampa. Game we'll call.

1691
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: IT i, mean how we've watched it over the years With,

1692
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: josh at least the last couple, anyway is he gets

1693
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 2: like six to eight snaps in the first game plays

1694
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 2: his since it's gone to a three game, preseason second

1695
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 2: game is when he plays the, most sometimes up to a,

1696
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: half and then he'll play a series in the third,

1697
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: game if at, all and then that's. It AND i

1698
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: feel like WE'RE i feel like we've moved away from

1699
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: that regiment because last year he played eight snaps in

1700
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: the first preseason, game didn't see the field last, week

1701
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: and now it's undetermined as to whether he's going to

1702
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: see the field this. Week SO i think the regimen

1703
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: and the the mo for the reps that he's gonna

1704
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: get in the preseason have. Changed to what degree we'll

1705
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: have to wait and.

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01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: See, YEAH i think that makes a lot of. Sense

1707
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: they probably looked at this and, said all, right, three

1708
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: we got two on the. Road you know it might

1709
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: and they might. Have they might have done, this, said,

1710
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: listen we should reach out to The bears if we

1711
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: can get a couple of days of joint, practices but

1712
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: let's not Play josh in that second. Game that may

1713
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: that may have been the plan from the. Outset you

1714
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: do want him to get some reps against somebody else without,

1715
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: them without you knowing their guys and they're all that. Stuff,

1716
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: Uh and you can do that in. Practice i'm sure

1717
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: they'll structure it in such a way as to make

1718
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 1: it as realistic as possible without Putting josh At risky

1719
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: will Say, okay we're, good and then the last preseason

1720
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: game can be whatever you want it to, be whether

1721
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: he plays it down or. NOT i think that's a

1722
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: great plan, because as you're, right you can get good

1723
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,919
Speaker 1: reps in practice against another team without putting your quarterback

1724
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: at risk and get him a little something out of

1725
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: it as. Well that makes a lot of sense to.

1726
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 7: Me.

1727
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: Now at the same, time last, year The bills had

1728
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: a joint practice against The, steelers And josh did play

1729
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: in the preseason game a couple of days.

1730
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Later they got lumped up in that preseason guess they.

1731
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 2: Did so it looks and feels different this year for whatever.

1732
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: REASON i, mean he's at a stage now where he

1733
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: has full command of this. Offense it hasn't changed to

1734
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 2: any great.

1735
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: Degree, yeah it's his, offense, Right.

1736
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: SO i think that's where most of this decision making.

1737
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 2: Lies got to take a break here back with one

1738
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: more segment to wrap things up and take a look

1739
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 2: towards tomorrow where we have another exciting show coming your.

1740
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: Way we'll do that next. Year On One Bill's, live

1741
01:26:55,080 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 2: presented By colid Of, Health It's Buffalo Bills. Radio all,

1742
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: right back here On one Of Bill's, Live Chris, Brown

1743
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 2: Steve tasker with you as, Usual and, UH i don't.

1744
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 2: KNOW i kind of felt like today's practice after a

1745
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 2: two day, layoff was a series of fits and. STARTS

1746
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: i kinda there was some rhythm late from the, offense

1747
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 2: but no one coach had to stop practice three times

1748
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 2: to talk to his defensive players with teaching points whatever it.

1749
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: Was but there were some ball security issues out there.

1750
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Today defense had to be corrected on a couple of

1751
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: things by the head. Coach not a super day for

1752
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: THE i would replacement.

1753
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: KICKER i would concur with.

1754
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,839
Speaker 2: That it was it was a little, ragged high.

1755
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Energy low. Mentals yeah you know WHAT i, meant. Ragget

1756
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 1: they didn't look they didn't look mentally. Engage you. Know

1757
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: the ball security issues speak to. That the fact they

1758
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: stop practice three, times like what are you? Doing kind

1759
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 1: of thing.

1760
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: That kind of happened sometimes after a two day layoff, though,

1761
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: right like they've been, going, going, going, Going they've only

1762
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: had a day off at. Most now they have the

1763
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 2: first preseason, game two days. Off you come back and it's, like,

1764
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: hey can we turn the light bulbs back?

1765
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: On?

1766
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: Well, right you come, back you're physically fresh because you've

1767
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: been in a training, camp grinding and, way and now

1768
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: you get two days. Off it's, like, WOW i feel.

1769
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: Great and then but it's, like what game are we? Playing? Oh,

1770
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: yeah that's, right that's kind of way it. Is SO

1771
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: i that falls right in line with a normal human

1772
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: behavior of a football. Team but here's the other, thing

1773
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: get back at.

1774
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: It here's the other Thing i'm wondering. About because The,

1775
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: bears who have also played a preseason, game have also

1776
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: already had one joint. Practice they had it with The

1777
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: dolphins last, week so they're going to be like already

1778
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: in that, mode or at least very familiar with what

1779
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: that mode, is just having done it last.

1780
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: Week this is going to be new territory for The.

1781
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: BILLS i don't care about The. Bears it's about, us

1782
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i? Mean, well, right those guys Can,

1783
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: yeah this is routine for. Us we're gonna be. Good

1784
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: and then who. Cares this is about Our it's about our, team,

1785
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: Right so we'll go in and they'll get through it.

1786
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 1: Fine if it's normal to The, bears that's. Fine they

1787
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: they may look. Better i'm not worried about what The

1788
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: bears look. Like i'm worried about how we. Play AND

1789
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: i think going in there, TRAVELING i think it's a good.

1790
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Idea they're traveling a couple of days before the, game

1791
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: they'll be able to get a little comfort level with. That,

1792
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm not worried about that at.

1793
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: All maybe it's minimized by the fact that The bills

1794
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: have already played a preseason, game so the joint practice

1795
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 2: won't feel like much of a jump in tempo or anything, Anyway, right.

1796
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: We'll see it's gonna be a fun. Week we'll miss

1797
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: You thursday And, friday, Though.

1798
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah tomorrow another big, show Got Kevin clark FROM espn

1799
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: And Michael hoyt with us in. Studio we'll see you

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01:29:53,120 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 2: then at one you