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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, UFC two fifty seven is in

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Speaker 1: the books.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 1: This is the Morning Combat UFC two to fifty seven

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Speaker 1: post fight show.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: You might be asking now where the hell is Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell currently right now, he's actually getting set up

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Speaker 1: upstairs is going to be on CBS Sports HQ. He'll

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Speaker 1: be on with Rashad Evans. You can actually watch that

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Speaker 1: we expect that to be not too long. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: come down here and we will do the show together.

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Speaker 1: But for right now, my name is Luke Thomas, of

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Speaker 1: course the Combat Sports analysts for CBS in showtime, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guide you through all of the UFC

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Speaker 1: two fifty seven results that we just saw.

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Speaker 1: me your biggest takeaways from the overall fight card could

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, when Brian Campbell comes in, we'll

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Speaker 1: go to the wide shot for now. This is how

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Speaker 1: we'll keep it. So if you don't want spoilers, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give you a five second count to go away.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming because you're here, this is what you're here for.

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Speaker 1: So five four three two one, all right, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: What can we say? UFC two fifty seven took place

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Speaker 1: at the Etsy Hot Arena in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates.

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Speaker 2: I guess by their.

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Speaker 1: Time January twenty fourth, which is actually what time it

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Speaker 1: is here now is I have my watch on backwards?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Dustin Poirier has defeated Connor McGregor two thirty two of

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Speaker 1: the second round via TKO. There is so much to

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Speaker 1: say about this, the fight itself, what it means for

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Speaker 1: a potential Pachiao fight, what it means for the potential

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Speaker 1: return of Habib Nimmin, of which I always thought was bullshit,

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Speaker 1: but nevertheless, we'll talk about that as well. First things first,

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Speaker 1: we have to talk about the fight. And I thought

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Speaker 1: Dustin Poarier had exactly the right game plan, I mean

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Speaker 1: perfectly done, not just the perfect game plan. Obviously, you

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Speaker 1: guys all saw he came in fantastic physical shape. I

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Speaker 1: think he actually looked a little bit better around his midsection.

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Speaker 1: He looked like he was a little bit more well muscled,

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Speaker 1: or maybe a little bit more chiseled. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: know which one, but certainly he looked pretty good. But

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Speaker 1: he didn't have an attitude about getting revenge on Connor.

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Speaker 1: This was not about proving everybody wrong. This is about

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Speaker 1: proving to himself what he felt like he had earned

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Speaker 1: up to that point, regrouping, finding the right way to

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Speaker 1: get past his demons, correcting his mistakes and then taking

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Speaker 1: a real professional, level headed approach to this contest with

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Speaker 1: a very famous person and what was once a heated rival.

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Speaker 1: So first his general psychological approach was correct, But in

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Speaker 1: the fight itself, what did he do to win? As

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Speaker 1: a standard disclaimer, I always do postfight analysis after I

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Speaker 1: have a chance to fully review the film. I watched

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Speaker 1: it in real time, just like you guys, so you

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Speaker 1: have to give me a little bit of a you know,

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Speaker 1: give me some time to get that done. But from

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Speaker 1: my initial review, this is what was so important. I

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Speaker 1: actually thought Connor won the first round his accuracy at range,

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Speaker 1: And while he got the takedown Parrier, he couldn't do

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Speaker 1: the fence. But this is why that was so key.

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Speaker 1: What was the best way for Dustin Poirier to fight?

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Speaker 1: It was not to trade with Connor in boxing range,

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Speaker 2: It was to go and to drain him. Pop.

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Speaker 1: Quiz, folks, what are the only two first rounds. We'll

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Speaker 1: have to see what the scores are for this one officially,

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Speaker 1: But what were the only two first rounds heading into

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Speaker 1: this contest that Connor McGregor had ever lost in the UFC,

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Speaker 1: Chad Mendez and Habib nimber goa Madoff. What is the

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Speaker 1: common denominator there? They tried to wrestle him. Now again,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that Connor won this, but why did they

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Speaker 1: try to wrestle him even if they had lost the round?

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Speaker 1: Because they're trying to drain him. Certainly, in the case

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Speaker 1: of nimer goa Madoff, he was trying to drain him.

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Speaker 1: If Connor can bounce and set the tone and set

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Speaker 1: combinations off, dude, he's a very hard fighter to beat.

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Speaker 1: He's very hard fighter to beat, especially early. He might

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Speaker 1: be the best starter, frankly that we have in the UFC.

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Speaker 1: Has certainly had his peak.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: You've got to take that away from him. I talked

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Speaker 1: about it on my live chat. I've talked about it

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Speaker 1: on my podcast all the time. What do the best

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Speaker 1: teams and fighters do in MMA? They look at what

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Speaker 1: their opponent is good at and then they ask themselves, Okay,

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Speaker 2: What can I.

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Speaker 1: good at? And that is part of that effort. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going out there if you're just Amparier trying to

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would be nice if that.

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Speaker 1: Happened, but the much more important equation is start working

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Speaker 1: So how much of that investment was really the reason

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Speaker 1: why he won? Not necessarily the best or not the

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Speaker 1: you could tell he was having a much more thoughtful

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Speaker 2: Usually he doesn't need to.

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Speaker 1: Connor doesn't you usually have to switch things up when

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Speaker 1: I also thought, and I'm gonna go back and look

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Speaker 1: saying things like got you see, I got you with that.

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Speaker 1: It was after that right hook was coming around the

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Speaker 1: he couldn't really land anything significant as he backed Poiree

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Speaker 1: times he has put people away or at a bare minimum,

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Speaker 1: By the same second round, when did the ship happen?

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Speaker 1: Not long before the end between maybe you know, expending

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't think that first round was like crazy draining,

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Speaker 2: The punch when they then switched positions.

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Speaker 1: When now Poarier came out from behind the with his

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Speaker 1: I forget who said it was a Cornier or Felder.

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Speaker 1: It was just a fucking avalanche. After that, he just

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Speaker 1: I mean, who could withstand that if you were feeling

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Speaker 1: the way that Connor was feeling. Could who could stand

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Speaker 1: up to that barrage, that machine gun barrage that the

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Speaker 2: Point he felt, I mean a couple of things that.

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Speaker 1: Sort of stand out to me about that Connor. You

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Speaker 1: know what's funny, I watched this video today. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys know who Gabriel Varga is. He's this Canadian kickboxer,

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Speaker 1: two time Glory champ two times I think he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a champion k one for a time, really

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Speaker 1: really really good kickboxer. He had done a video, interestingly

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Speaker 1: on Max Holloway, and he had talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Max Holloway's video or Max Holloway's statement that like, you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't spar and he had made a couple of points.

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Speaker 1: He had said he had had a rematch with a

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Speaker 1: guy that he had lost to previously barely, who was

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Speaker 1: very a little bit, so he actually did not spar

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Speaker 1: much for that camp He's like, aha, you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: Nobody does that to Connor McGregor, So I think you

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Speaker 3: The Habib fight, well that was a bad style matchup,

433
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: or he didn't train where he wanted to, or whatever

434
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 3: narrative you were believing in the moment nobody had knocked

435
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 3: him out in the UFC, So that image of him

436
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 3: sitting with his back against the cage wall, this wasn't

437
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 3: just because he was facing the greatest wrestler in history

438
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 3: like a Habib.

439
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 4: This was a fight in which he would.

440
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 3: Have no excuses coming in because of how much his

441
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 3: commitment returned to getting in shape and to you know,

442
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: trying to alter the beginning of a true second chapter

443
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 3: of his prime. And yet he ran into dustin Pourier's

444
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 3: best and Luke, I mean rightfully, McGregor dominated the narrative

445
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 3: coming in. I mean, we did multiple shows on McGregor.

446
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 3: You get it, you get why there's no surprise here.

447
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: But Pourier, as I wrote on CBS Sports, still had

448
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: you know, twenty five more minutes to make all things

449
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 3: right and fulfill his destiny. I am so humbled by

450
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 3: the warrior that that man is the adaptability, the toughness,

451
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: now the living legend. I mean, not that he wasn't before,

452
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 3: but he's twelve and.

453
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 2: Two best one of his career.

454
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 3: One of his career, the one that certainly meant the

455
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 3: most emotionally, because again the loss to Connor in twenty fourteen,

456
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: when it was as mentally a loss as it was physically.

457
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: Was the turning point. It kicked him up to lightweight.

458
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 3: It started that incredible run through the Habib fight. He's

459
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 3: now ten and two since the first loss to Connor,

460
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: the Michael Jackson Michael Johnson hiccup, he the Habib dominant loss,

461
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: and then a Hall of Fame making run. I mean, look,

462
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, he submitted Anthony Pettis, he stopped at E

463
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: Alvarez and Justin Gaegee. He had classic, all time great

464
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: wars with Max Holloway and with Dan Hooker, and now

465
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: he knocked out Connor McGregor. And he's thirty two years old,

466
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: still in his physical prime. Humbled by what that man

467
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: has been able to do. Specifically in this fight. He

468
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: was in moments where it could have gone downhill from him.

469
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: He was taking fairly clean shots, you know, in the

470
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: end of the first early second against Connor, in which

471
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: he could have crumbled, but he didn't. The takedown in

472
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 3: the first round was key, which I'm sure he broke

473
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: down and to be able to focus on the legs

474
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: we said coming in the Connor.

475
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: But not just focus on the legs of he got

476
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: hit with maybe rerecord's gonna get Thegregors's gonna take his

477
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: pound of flesh for the most part, right, but he

478
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: avoided trading too much, he.

479
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: Avoided getting stuck too long and playing Connor's game exactly.

480
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: And Connor and look, this is why I don't I'm

481
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: not gonna, you know, negatively really talk much on Connor here,

482
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 3: Like you saw what the flaws of inactivity can create.

483
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: And he also just lost to a better guy, by

484
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: the way, But at the same time, he still created, uh,

485
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, an opening for his moments, and Poorier still

486
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: eate those on the chin, but he didn't crumble. In

487
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, Poorier would have crumbled and did crumble.

488
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: This guy wouldn't have.

489
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: So you know, in some ways he did sort of

490
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 3: take Connor's best shot and then at the same time

491
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 3: taking him down. Working in the standing grapple in the

492
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: in the clinch in the first round, maybe sucked a

493
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: little bit of that that that that speed and power

494
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: off of Connor. But to work that hard on the legs,

495
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: it does show you you gotta evolved so quickly in

496
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: this game. We really didn't know just you know, Pooria

497
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 3: had been so consistent, but yet he'd also been through wars.

498
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 4: Would that hurt him?

499
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: With Connor being away from the cage and not taking

500
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: the damage withuld that help him. Well know it turned out,

501
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: you know, the forty seconds against uh Cowboy. I don't

502
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: think it was fool's goal. But it really wasn't enough

503
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 3: of a of a chapter there for Connor to figure

504
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: out who he is as a fighter right now.

505
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: And the blight was it wasn't the other part about

506
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: it was like Connor maybe if he'd been pushed more

507
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: in that fight, maybe would have learned some lessons or

508
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: developed some other practices and training that would have better

509
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: prepared it. But it was forty seconds. It robs the

510
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: audience of a better and longer fight. It also robs

511
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: the fighter from a learning lesson.

512
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: It certainly robbed him. And I don't say that by

513
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 3: any means as an excuse. I just say that as

514
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: that's what inactivity will do. And again I will say.

515
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 4: Props to Connor for the comments afterwards.

516
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 3: Took the loss, knows what he has to work for,

517
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: didn't retire, didn't say I want Nate a third time.

518
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: He didn't say Manny, please come out here. He wants

519
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: to get back in line to try to get the

520
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: trilogy with Poorier and something sugar was shot. Evans just

521
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: said on c A Sports HQ, You're gonna have to

522
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: go through hell to get there, you know, whether it's

523
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 3: a gaygee of Ferguson, whoever is going to be next

524
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: for time, all animals, it's all animals.

525
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: It's a historic era.

526
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: And as much as I'm just here to say, hey, Connor,

527
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: love the way you lost, can we focus on the

528
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: damn win?

529
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 4: This is dustin Poorie.

530
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: Is one more focus on the loss.

531
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: And I want to talk about Poorrie because I do

532
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: think it's important. Connor did make a bit of an excuse,

533
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: and I told the audience here before you got here,

534
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: I was a little fifty to fifty on it when

535
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I need more activity. On

536
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: the one hand, it's like, guys that McGregor and his

537
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: team talked a gang of shit about how okay, you

538
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: know this was the Have you got me at my worst?

539
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: Now at my best? Now's the time for me to

540
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: get mabe. Now's the time for me to work on passes.

541
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: You're in for a trait. I'm prepared all the work

542
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna see. Oh well, it turns out I actually,

543
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: you know, I need to be more consistent. On the

544
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: one hand, it felt like an immediate reach. On the

545
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: other hand, dude, we know this is what you know

546
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: as well as I do.

547
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: One. The game of MMA is evolving rapidly.

548
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: It's so different than when Floyd Mayweather would be out

549
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: for a year in boxing.

550
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: I made that exactly.

551
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: I was telling him, like, did you not feel that

552
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: that was like the worst demonstration of Connor's chin you'd

553
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: ever seen? He did not look like he was conditioned

554
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: for battle.

555
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't think you can recreate the

556
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: toll of a super elite fight that it takes on you,

557
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: whether that is just around and a half as we saw,

558
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: look the grappling, the standing clinch, that all wears down

559
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: on you. Yeah, I think that also wears down on

560
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: your chin. And none of this is certainly excuse making.

561
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 3: Do I have an issue with what Connor said by that? Well,

562
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: I think that we learned now that Connor wants to

563
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: make he wants to right the wrong.

564
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: So I think this is more.

565
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 3: Him figuring out. This is probably why it didn't work

566
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: for me. Now when he's talking this shit about Habiban saying,

567
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: you know, you ran out of the cage. You didn't

568
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: even get the belt put around you. I'm still the champion.

569
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: That's bullshit, that's excuse making, that's just whatever to feed

570
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: his own ego. I had no problem with the way

571
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: he uh, not excuse the loss, but described the loss,

572
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: because Luke the inactivity, you can't do it. You cannot

573
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: do it in this era, at this level when you're

574
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: going to fight legends and killers. Because again, he put

575
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: Dustin into his cross hears and set up the kind

576
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: of finish that Connor normally gets. Only he didn't finish him.

577
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: And that's that's a credit to Poitier's chin, It's a credit.

578
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 4: To his focus. Looke who look look up here all right?

579
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: Bring bringing I.

580
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: Listen everything you're saying I'm listening to does better.

581
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: Who has trained themselves to be as better in the

582
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: midst of peril than Dustin Poier. Think about those rounds

583
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: with Hooker Gate. It was swinging back and forth. You

584
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: know gateschie still Yeah, Gates's phenomenally.

585
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: There are other players, but to your point, Dustin Poorie

586
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: is maybe one of the best at that. Yes, Uh,

587
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: the thing I was looking up here was if I

588
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: had to ask you how many punches or strikes rather

589
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: did Connor McGregor land, let's say, against Nate Diaz in

590
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: the rematch in the first round, what would you say?

591
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Roughly forty five? It's about a little high, but around

592
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: thirty five. Around thirty five is about his average when

593
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: he's cooking tween. Let's say thirty, between twenty five and

594
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: thirty five. Do you know how many he landed in

595
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: the first round against Dustin Pourier here, ten close, fifteen? Yeah,

596
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: that is fucking key. I'm fighting Connor McGregor, that is.

597
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: And again but that did you have McGregor win in

598
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: the first round?

599
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: I did have McGregor.

600
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: I thought he did just a little bit better damage.

601
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: But he heard it. He seemed to have started to

602
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: piece him up a bit late with the punches, and

603
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: yes he did. I thought that's fine.

604
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: But my point is that Poorier was invested in the

605
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: right psychology, he was invested in the right strategy, and

606
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: he was willing to maybe get up the first round

607
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: or not, like go for broken it as an investment

608
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: for later, and holy shit, did it pay off. That

609
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: was a smart operation by Dustin Poorie and not just

610
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: a tough fighter or a fighter who deserves it. Can

611
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: we say it out loud, Dustin Poitier is a smart fighter.

612
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still stuck on the question that he asked

613
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: about McGregor's chin. I'm inclined to say again, had the

614
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: energy stuck from him a bit in the first round?

615
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: Perfect game plan by Poorier. And then I thought when

616
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: Poorier made that switch when it was Poorier's back against

617
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: the cage and he hit that hard leg shot and

618
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: he made that switch, that was that was a plan

619
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: where if I'm going to find an opening, I'm gonna

620
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: go for it. I don't know if that's a weak

621
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: chin as much for McGregor as again, he just fought

622
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: a perfect, all time great guy who saw his moment

623
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: and took advantage of it. And I think, you know,

624
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: Connor loves to be in brawls where he's the bully,

625
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: where he's got a certain advantage. But this is the

626
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: reason why we said should this fight go into rounds three, four,

627
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: and five, not just because of the stam and the

628
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: differences between the two where that would be an advantage

629
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: for Poorier, but also except for that in a DS fight,

630
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: you don't see Connor in Sustained Wars, in which it's

631
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: give antake, and that's where the DS shine except for

632
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: the DS fight right and and DS was not doing

633
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: the type of things that would take advantage of his

634
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: size advantage. He wasn't trying to work the clinch. He's

635
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: not trying to take that fight to the ground. He

636
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: wasn't really working the same leg kicking strategy. Poorier was

637
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: a big light way. He did exactly what he needed

638
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: to do in there. He sort of robbed from that

639
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: gas tank a lot of the blueprint that we were

640
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: talking about, and it was worked the perfection.

641
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: But I can't get back how stunned I am to

642
00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: see Connor.

643
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, by the way he looked kind of.

644
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: Ere seeing those apps where you can plug in your face.

645
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: They're all like Russian apparently, and then they make you

646
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: look old. They give you like how you might look

647
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: when you're eighty.

648
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: He looked old getting bombed on, didn't he Not physically

649
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: he had in tremendous shape, but like with the haircut

650
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: and the way he had it and just sort of

651
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: like suffering under the weight of the punches of Poarier

652
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: got it was not the best look for him tonight,

653
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: even though again I thought he'd again what does he

654
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: do well accuracy, timing, finds his range like that? That

655
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: was still there? Dude, that was not gone.

656
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: It's just that Parier is not the better boxer between them,

657
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: but he is.

658
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: The better overall fighter at least. People.

659
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Ustin Parier here for a second. Man,

660
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: A lot of times we want to heat praise on

661
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: a guy because hey, they have a charity and don't

662
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: you want to say something nice about him?

663
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I think we do.

664
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Or a guy who has to you know, who had

665
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: to suffer terrible and embarrassing losses and then build himself

666
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: back up, and he had to do that as well.

667
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: But dude, Dustin Parier, It's like I sometimes feel like

668
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: an MM. Good guys never win, you know, and not

669
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: the Connor Regorger is the bad guy or however you

670
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: want to frame it. I'm just talking about Dustin fuck man,

671
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: and a good guy won today, you know.

672
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: For as stunned as we are again to see that

673
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: image of Connor sitting on his ass back up against

674
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: a cage, not because he gassed or.

675
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: Got submitted, because he got beat up.

676
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: He got whooped, you know, the equal emotion to that

677
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: was was the joy for Pooria, A joy for a

678
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: good dude who you've been along with him. And I

679
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: can't like, I can't stress this enough. The build to

680
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: the Habib fight, meaning the promotion the pooriahbby, the build

681
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: to that from the stories that we wrote as journalist Luke,

682
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: it was all about Pourier is finally gonna get his moment,

683
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: look at that long road, the improvement of his mental

684
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: game and his physical game, and is believe in himself

685
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: and all that. And dude, he was humbled by Normalka Medov,

686
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: he was dominated in that fight. For him to be

687
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: able to come back that quick against Hooker, go through

688
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: hell and come out, I mean so many people emotionally

689
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: would have been spent after that had be lost, even

690
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: if there was a lot left in the tank physically

691
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: for the.

692
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 4: Rest of their career, they would have kept fighting.

693
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: Could they have come right back and beat Hulker in

694
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: a fight like that and come back and do this

695
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: to McGregor for everything he wasn't mentally in twenty fourteen

696
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: against McGregor he was is he has turned that around

697
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: like two threefold. I mean, this is just this was

698
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: an incredible statement of somebody who is so easy to

699
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: root for. And Okay, he's never gonna be you know,

700
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: never beat Hebibe's probably never gonna be Habib.

701
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: But Habib's stepping away.

702
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, this, this doesn't mean Dustin hasn't stepped into the

703
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: fulfillment of his potential in his career.

704
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Let's say it out loud.

705
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: If it's true that Habib is not there, just Pari

706
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: is the best lightweight on.

707
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: Earth and he and he probably should have right here, and.

708
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: He should probably have a fucking belt around his waist.

709
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: He's the best lightweight on earth.

710
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: This is one of those situations where if you want

711
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: to make an aftermarket.

712
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: Correction, Dana White wouldn't mind it.

713
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: Sorry, but listen, fucked up, you know you want to

714
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: do that.

715
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: That's fine with me.

716
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Better late than never is certainly the case. Also, like, dude,

717
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: what speaks better to Parier's record than two things one?

718
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, can we just listen to some of these

719
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: names he mentioned? He's like, all respect the Max Holloway,

720
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: I beat you twice. I'm like two different weight classes too,

721
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: But listen to some of these names that he has faced.

722
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's just shocking to listen to this.

723
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: So Josh Grisby, who at the time was a big name.

724
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Pablo Garza for a time was a big name. I

725
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: just skip past those guys, Max Holloway, Diego Brandau, Kira Korasani,

726
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Carlos or Diego Fajeta, who's now quite good, Yanson Madeiros,

727
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Joe Duffy, Bobby Green, he did lose to Michael johnsonbod

728
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: he fought him, Jim Miller, Eddie Alvarez, Anthony Pettis justin,

729
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: Gaegee Alvarez again, Holloway again, nimber Gona, made Off Hooker,

730
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: Connor ri Vigor. Dude, you want to talk about being

731
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: in the fucking trenches and the real key there is.

732
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before, but it really is

733
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: worth reminding everyone. He has lost, never two times in

734
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: a row when they put him down. He has always

735
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: dusted himself, back off, back you, back up, got ready

736
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: to go, and went back out there and marched forward successfully.

737
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: That is very hard to do, because show me where

738
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: he took an after he lost to Michael Johnson, he

739
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: fought Jim Miller. After he lost to Beebe, he fought

740
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker have lost McGregor, he fought Diego for Hata.

741
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: He never had an easy out ever.

742
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: No, never, never, And that's why Luke.

743
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: You know, maybe people won't see this till the documentary,

744
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: but you had your own Robert Barstool moment, you know,

745
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: he had his for Connor on the laptop camera when

746
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: he beat Cowboy. You you damn near jumped out of

747
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: your jeans there after Dustin won. Why because this was

748
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: a freaking moment in our sport and a guy who

749
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: deserves the respect and praise for finally getting that again,

750
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: no title on the line, that's a championship, Hall of

751
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: Fame securing like victory. You know, would have been in

752
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: already without it, you know, probably, but you get the point.

753
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: That's the biggest moment of his career, and he ran

754
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: it back against the boogeyman from earlier on and he

755
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: beat the biggest star and you might.

756
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: As well put the title around him. You did an

757
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: Irish jig.

758
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: No, I didn't do a jig.

759
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: It was shocked in the moment that it was it

760
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: was going Connor's way until it just wasn't.

761
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: And then when it wasn't, the rain came pouring down

762
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: and I.

763
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: Was the thing you were dancing on counter's.

764
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: I was shocked. I couldn't believe what I was looking at.

765
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: It was a sports moment, as I like to say,

766
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: where just just like, holy shit, that just happened. And

767
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: again it was a fulfillment of a guy who, look

768
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: it was. It became tired to write the Poorier redemption

769
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: story this time around, because we'd seen him lose so

770
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: badly to Habib, yet he's the guy who stuck the

771
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: course and still authored it. I mean, I don't want

772
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: to do this. Well, where does he fit on the

773
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: old time greatest lightweight rankings?

774
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: But look where the.

775
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 3: Fuck does he fit on the all time I mean,

776
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: this is an insane career he's on right now.

777
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

778
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: One thing that would have made it a little bit

779
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: easier is if there had been a belt on the

780
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: line tonight, and then if he added that to the

781
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: interim belt. You could have been like, you know what,

782
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: this is the guy, because listen he was. I just

783
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: did you see anything there that told you a second

784
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: fight with Habib would go his way? I certainly did not,

785
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: So for those reasons, I still consider Habib the best

786
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: lightweight if he's active. But if he's not active, this

787
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: is that guy. Now, let's talk about some of the

788
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: consequences of this in terms of matchmaking a few different directions.

789
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: One we all thought because Habib was like, I can't

790
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: disappoint my mother. Please stop asking me if I'm going

791
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: to come back. But really you could tell. There was

792
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: a clip from Looking for a Fight that had put

793
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: out where Dana just you know, Bro, Bro, I know

794
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Bro sitting there close talking Habib about what this could

795
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: be if you have not to fight with Connor.

796
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: Well, that shit is out the window.

797
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: Certainly, anytime never Gonna made Off comes back, it's big doings.

798
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: But a fight with Dustin Parier would not necessarily be

799
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: that big. And second of all, there's no reason to

800
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: think it'd be different. Seems to me that maybe he

801
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: could get excited by Michael Chandler, which we'll talk about

802
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: in just a second.

803
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: But for right now, Habibi ain't coming the back.

804
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: He's not coming back unless UFC would like to give

805
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: him with the greatest GSP situation. And even then, when

806
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: are we gonna stop taking Habib's words?

807
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: That's true, I mean everything.

808
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: He says, he stands by. He said he's not coming back.

809
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 3: He's not coming back. There's no bring struck with Connor.

810
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: So let's be done with that. And can we be

811
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: done with Manny Paciot?

812
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the boxing guy here, what about that?

813
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, if it would have been

814
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: dependent on Connor's interview to words, you know, some people

815
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: are like, is it going to retire?

816
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: Now?

817
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: We didn't really know what to say.

818
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: He lost the leg kicks obviously not a part of boxing.

819
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: This was the kind of loss that had Connor in

820
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: the interview said made it seem like he was gonna

821
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: pivot away from May for the moment. Then, yeah, there's

822
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: probably still some market in the Many Pacio fight, but

823
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: this just in Luke, Manypacker's gonna knock him out, so

824
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: I don't care if he's forty two. Manypacker was gonna

825
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: knock him out. So that fight's over for now. Okay,

826
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: can we be done with that? Thank you very much.

827
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: Can we talk about Dustin Poorier as UFC lightweight champion

828
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: and the people who we want to see him fight,

829
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: the people that are most deserving, Luke, Michael Chandler is

830
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: a photoholder.

831
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: I got a tweet here Fromnimica flame throat before we

832
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: transition fully, I got a tweet here from Nimerica made

833
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: of ten minutes ago. Quote, this is what happened. I

834
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: guess it means what happens when you change your team,

835
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: leave the sparring partners who made you a champion, and

836
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: sparring with little kids far away from reality. What do

837
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: you make of that?

838
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: I was just talking about Connor.

839
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: I mean, this is it's a little bit rare for

840
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: him to take a victory lap like this, but it's

841
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: a little bit rare for him to have a mortal

842
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: in a long term.

843
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: Deathly idol or.

844
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, rival like Connor has been, so I'm okay

845
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: with him sprinkling a little bit on the ground.

846
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: Oh, Dana White quote I did talk to Habib and

847
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: he said to me, Dana, I gotta be honest with you.

848
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm so many levels above these guys. I beat these guys. Yeah,

849
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: he ain't coming back. Folks, Sorry, should have took this

850
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: was well known ahead of time, but this is like, okay,

851
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: now we really know. Let me just see there's anything

852
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: else Dania that White is saying about.

853
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Dana White finally.

854
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: Admits of be've never made a return quote doesn't sound positive?

855
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: Good? Yeah, good timing.

856
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: Now that Connor lost right.

857
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, all of a sudden he seems to have

858
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: no interest.

859
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: I can't quite imagine why. All right, we'll come back

860
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: to that a little bit.

861
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: We were all stuck on maybe, I mean, but all

862
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: along it was you.

863
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: Know what the Jake Paul thing is there? He didn

864
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: insult his wife. God, how sad would that be? The devil?

865
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: And not a four? That was it?

866
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: Let me ask one question about this when we move

867
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: on to Michael Channa, because I was just fucking crazy.

868
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: I will see this and I don't know if they're

869
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: going to do it, and frankly, I'm not even sure

870
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: how advisable it is. But you heard Connor say you

871
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: hear Dustin say it. Okay, we're one and one. What

872
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: about a third one? I have to tell you. We'll

873
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: see what happens to the Dustin Poirier star after this

874
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: is something to pay attention. Was a little hard to

875
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: say in the moment.

876
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's not hard to say.

877
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 3: You beat Connor McGregor and any situation you get a rub.

878
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: But the Dustin, Yes, I still wonder if the DS

879
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: one was more climactic than.

880
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: This one, of course it was, but this cannot hurt

881
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: the idea of Dustin getting shoved down the mainstream's throat

882
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: for sure, and and it's his time for sure.

883
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: A third fight would.

884
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Be would be big, would be big, so he would

885
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: immediately that you think, no, they might.

886
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 4: You can never count out the fact.

887
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: But I don't think there was anything in the way

888
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: that fight ended that Connor deserves an immediate Okay, So

889
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: here's the deal.

890
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: I think you build to that. It's a gamble to

891
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: build to that.

892
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: Of course, it is a gamble to build for that,

893
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: and that comes down with how careful UFC and Connor

894
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: want to be with the matchmaking moving forward, because if

895
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: he has to go back in line to try to

896
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: win back his title, I think we would see the

897
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: trilogy with Poorier sooner than later, not next, but certainly

898
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: sooner than later. But you'd have to believe he should

899
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: and would have to go through a Gauchee coming off

900
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 3: a loss or a Ferguson coming off a loss, which,

901
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: by the way, both fights could be non title paper

902
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: viewman events without question, or I guess you could also

903
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: throw them. The ideas for the trilogy you have to

904
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: try to make Nate wait, say Nate, it has to

905
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: be at lightweight and try to.

906
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: Do it that way.

907
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: But either way, Luke, I think he's one win away

908
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: and it would be up to UFC if they think

909
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: it's worth it to put pour you in there with

910
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: either Chandler or Doe Bronx.

911
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the fight I like for Connor

912
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: right now would be Ferguson. I think that's the fight

913
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: you do because they're still intriguing it. Both guys coming

914
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: off of losses, both still ranked somewhere near the top

915
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: of the division. If you're Connor, is a winnable fight

916
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: for certain reasons. If you are a Ferguson, there are

917
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: discrepancies in parts of Connor's game that you might think

918
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: that you are capable of taking advantage of. That's the

919
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: direction I would go.

920
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: Now.

921
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: We'll come back to that here in just a minu

922
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: If you want to shoot some sweetser, set of an

923
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: email Luke Thomas us at gmail dot com or just

924
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: tweet us.

925
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: What's your Twitter account at B Campbell? Just at B Campbell.

926
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: Huh you're the B Campbell Huh. No, it's at B Campbell,

927
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: not I don't know.

928
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: B Campbell, and of course uh Luke Thomas news over

929
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: here or el Thomas news on Twitter. All right, Michael

930
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: Chandler gotta tell you. Let me say something. It is

931
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: rare in modern mma to get acquired from a in

932
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: the sense where you are seen at a commensurate level organization.

933
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: And no one puts BELT or on par with UFC.

934
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: But you know, we grew up in the era where

935
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: guys were getting acquired from Strike Force, they were getting

936
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: acquired from Pride, and it was always a big to

937
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: do about how they might do. But that has slowly

938
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: trickled away as the UFC has become the predominant force.

939
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: And again in UFC and BELT are not equivalent. One

940
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: is a edgemonic force and one is not. But Michael

941
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Chandler was would have considered to be among that ILK

942
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: And we kind of thought, you know, Dan Hooker might

943
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: be a bit of a bad matchup for a lot

944
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: of reasons.

945
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: Although and on paper it was believe it really was.

946
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: It was close on the odds, to be fair.

947
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: But and at first I thought, I there was a

948
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: lot that I thought the Hooker was doing well. Thought

949
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: the lateral movement was pretty good for him. I thought

950
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: he was tearing up the legs. In fact, you go

951
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: back to the Brent Premise fight the first time around,

952
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: that was a real problem.

953
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: For Michael Chandler. He had to hit.

954
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: In fact, do you remember how he beat Brent Premise

955
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: in the second go round? Why are they putting the

956
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: two shot on there? We're in the same fucking room,

957
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: all right. Anyway, he wrestled him. He wrestled him.

958
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: Do you remember that he wrestled Brent Ay, you ignorant slut.

959
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wrestled him. Remember this time out?

960
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: He he has won two fights in a row over

961
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Benson Henderson and now Dan Hooker strictly with his hands. Boy,

962
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say for UFC debuts for a choir talent,

963
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: they don't come much better. In fact, that might be

964
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: one of the better ones I've ever seen.

965
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the equivalent of like a teen

966
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: movie where a nerd you know, gets in the car

967
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: the cool kids and then ends up you know, so

968
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: basically the script of can Hardly Waite ends up doing

969
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: karaoke on the top and banging girls. I mean, look,

970
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: could you have asked for a better debut?

971
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: No? Was he banging girls b seeing is that what

972
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: he was doing.

973
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: He was Michael Chandler is a beast. He's everything he

974
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: said he was, and for again a guy that's easy

975
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: to cheer for, knowing his story, it was alarming, yet

976
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: it felt good to see this.

977
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 4: Dan Hooker was nobody's pushover.

978
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: I predicted Hooker by late stoppage at the very least

979
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: you're thinking that you know that this could be three

980
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: rounds of hell, and Hooker just seemed to have those advantages.

981
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: Yet something you said earlier in this fight while I

982
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: was watching with you, Luke, Chandler was cocking that right

983
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: hand and it created a very tense little sort of

984
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: dance they were doing to try to negotiate space with

985
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: the feet, not neither really trying to commit, but the

986
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: only commitment was Chandler or the body, and that in

987
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: that moment brought down the high hands of Hooker and

988
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: really set up that left hook that did the damage.

989
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: The backflips off the top was insane. He almost hurt himself,

990
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: it looked like. But for a guy that's not a

991
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: trash talker, for a guy that's not over the top

992
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: and ridiculous, he was almost as good in the post

993
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: fight interview as he was in knocking out Dan, knocking

994
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: out Hooker from the standpoint that he calls out Connor.

995
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: Now you know that's a call out that that we'll

996
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: never mention again. And he calls out Habibe, you want

997
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: to come back from retirement, you know, go thirty and

998
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: oh I'm the guy. Oh He's not gonna get either

999
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: of those. But I think as we sit here right now,

1000
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 3: he should fight dustin portia X.

1001
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: Do you like that?

1002
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean, how many people saw well, I want to

1003
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: say how many people saw this pay per view?

1004
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1005
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: How many casuals? But I don't know is did ESPN

1006
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: plus work?

1007
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about that.

1008
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean, did did Dana put a curse on himself?

1009
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Or did he challenge?

1010
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Did you want to talk about that?

1011
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: Was like Bugs Bunny Cartoon or Daffy Duck when they

1012
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: I try to fire the gun and he turned the

1013
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: barrel and it blows the guy's bill.

1014
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: I mean, are there other people in the dark web

1015
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: just taking down ESPN plus as?

1016
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: All right for the moment.

1017
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: My point is that, you know, look, you can go

1018
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: different ways commercially, but what else could Michael Chandler have done?

1019
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: Then come into that cage ripped good looking dude. You

1020
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 3: hear about oh, three time Belator champion and then knock

1021
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: out Dan Hooker and then give you a little bit

1022
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: of a wrestling promo and do the backflip. He deserves

1023
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: to be in the title fight. And that's nothing against

1024
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Charles Olivera. I think Chandler's a little bit sexier to

1025
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: sell for sure. And that's a hell of a fight

1026
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: against Dustin Pooria a.

1027
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: Couple of things.

1028
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: Listen, there's no bad fight. You can make it right.

1029
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: Chandler ferguson, sure, Chandler gains. I'm not saying each one

1030
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: makes equal sense, but.

1031
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: Anyone you name in that the title shot, I mean,

1032
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: there's nothing bad about it.

1033
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: Let me just say something.

1034
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: We we criticize the UFC a lot because they deserve

1035
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: it a lot, but when they do good things, we

1036
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: should say it. They handled the promotion of Michael Chandler

1037
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: correct from the word go. Dana did not bash him

1038
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: when he was asked about him. They sign him, they

1039
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: bring him over to be the alternate. That part didn't

1040
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: work out necessarily, but they gave him all of that

1041
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: attention on that pay per view.

1042
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: Tons of promo, tons of media.

1043
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: They really put him out there, and then he did

1044
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: his part, coming out today and delivering the way he did.

1045
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: The best kinds of scenarios are when the promotion gives

1046
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: a guy maximum attention and then the guy or the

1047
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: lady uses that maximum attention to maximum effect.

1048
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: Now how far that will go, I don't know, but

1049
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: it was.

1050
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: The co main event on a connorm record payer view.

1051
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna go pretty fucking far. The callout afterwards, someone

1052
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: told me, and again I don't watch pro wrestling because

1053
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: I read books, but I was wondering, is that a

1054
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: Rick Flair thing?

1055
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: What is that? You know? Was the reminiscent of something

1056
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: so Rick.

1057
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Flair at the not at the Royal Rumble nineteen ninety two,

1058
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: I believe in that one year when he left WCW

1059
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: went to ww F at the time, I remember that

1060
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: so well, and he won the Royal Rumble from me,

1061
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: he was one of the first two entrants.

1062
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: He went all the way.

1063
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: It was a great way by vincient man in the

1064
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 3: company to take this guy and just show you how.

1065
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: Great he is.

1066
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: And he gave the pro wrestling promo with a tear

1067
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: in my eye. This is the greatest, you know, night

1068
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: of my life. There was some parallel there, but he

1069
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: wasn't going script word for words. It was really DC,

1070
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: the wrestling fan that sort of brought it.

1071
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1072
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: It was like, hey, that was very Rick Flair esque.

1073
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: But again you could tell that that's not Chandler's game

1074
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: to make a speech like that, and yet it was great.

1075
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: It was great to see him do that.

1076
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Luke, is he has he altered his game to be

1077
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: a headhunter and is that going to be the thing

1078
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: that makes up for his lack of side Now, look,

1079
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: Dan Hunker's a tall, long lightweight, but it was it

1080
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 3: seemed like a staggering difference. When then you finally saw

1081
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: those two in there against each other and he overcame it.

1082
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: Do you like him as more of a headhunter in

1083
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: the UFC who's obviously here for a good time, not

1084
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: a long time, and is going to go for it

1085
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: and maximize it than a guy to try to, you know,

1086
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: box from the outside set up those takedowns.

1087
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I think eventually, listen the way to Michael. What's true

1088
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: about Michael Chandler When he's on fire, When he's on point,

1089
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: he's great, But you can't forget that there are things

1090
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: about him that the record listen, he's thirty four.

1091
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: There's not like there's not a lot of tape on

1092
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 2: the guy. There's a lot of tape.

1093
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: And what the tape shows is that, you know, if

1094
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: you can hit him upside the head, you know it

1095
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have a bad chin. But it's not what I

1096
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: would call the most amount of durability I've ever seen.

1097
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: And if he gets a little bit frustrated, he can

1098
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: take risks, and sometimes he can overly rely on the

1099
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: wrestling later, which can guess him out because he doesn't

1100
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: apportion his offense appropriately. He like Connor is a house

1101
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: on fire in the first round. So I guess my

1102
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: thing would be like, you know, that first round against

1103
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: Michael Channer. Dude, especially now, that's one where he can

1104
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: measure distance and you can use his hands to trick

1105
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: you because he had If you think about it, it

1106
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: was I think Dan Hooker was right to use the

1107
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: lateral movement because at first it was frustrating Michael Chandler.

1108
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: You can see him getting visibly annoyed that he had

1109
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: to keep turning and keep turning and keep turning. But

1110
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: it also put Hooker in a defensive mindset where he

1111
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: wasn't really able to counter as soon as Channer started

1112
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: going to the body and then body whoop.

1113
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: And he caught him up top.

1114
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's adding layers of threats that didn't necessarily

1115
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: use to be there in the same kind of way.

1116
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: So you know, you got to fight this guy very

1117
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: carefully in the first round. I think the hooker got

1118
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a wake up call there. I don't, really,

1119
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: like I said, did, I don't really care if he

1120
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: matched up against I did see some people being like, oh, well,

1121
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: this validates Patricio Frede.

1122
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, fuck faces, Freda.

1123
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 3: Is not beating hookers, if that's what you're saying.

1124
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: No, it's not saying that.

1125
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, styles mcfights and he's a one

1126
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: to forty five er, But it's like, dude, Patricio Pitbull

1127
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 1: is the.

1128
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: Best fighter in belator history.

1129
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Chandler could have gotten his ass kicked tonight and it

1130
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: doesn't change anything.

1131
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: Winning changes anything.

1132
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: That dude's resume is all killer, no filler, Like I don't,

1133
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean any You didn't need to see tonight

1134
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: to know how.

1135
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: Good he is.

1136
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure Bellatore is probably happy with the result on

1137
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: some level, because you know, they didn't send some guy

1138
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: who got absolutely fucking looking like a scrub out there.

1139
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: Mentioned Bell on the you know in the introduction they did.

1140
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Were you surprised by that? Oh, yeah, for sure.

1141
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: But but you know, in this case, it certainly was

1142
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: a bolster to look that.

1143
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: You said it.

1144
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: UFC went out of their way to give Chandler a

1145
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: heck of an opportunity. We thought it was an opportunity

1146
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: that was gonna be certainly dangerous and he might lose

1147
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: it in the end. Dude, he cashed in on that opportunity.

1148
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: So if you're the UFC, there's no chance you're subbing

1149
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: in Charles Olivera to get a title shot.

1150
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: You have to make Poorie Chandler.

1151
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: Now, look, Luke, Obviously UFC's best laid plans would have

1152
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: been Connor McGregor winning this fight, have the meeting with

1153
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: abb to see if you can make that rematch if

1154
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: you can't, and Chandler had that finished, Chandler, Connor would

1155
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: have been, well, yeah, you know, I'm rock hard right

1156
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 3: with emotion here, only with emotion, I mean, Chandler McGregor

1157
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: would have been insane. It didn't happen poorer. Chandler's pretty

1158
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: pretty freaking insane. Okay, that's as a great fight. I

1159
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: really hope it would have to be for the title, right,

1160
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: it would, of course it would, but I really hope

1161
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: UFC would not. Connor does not deserve to fight for

1162
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: the title next, you know what I mean, get one

1163
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 3: win and then do the trilogy.

1164
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: Sure, but he does not deserve to go back.

1165
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: And I think I agree with that.

1166
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: I think I like, if I'm Connor mcgger's team, I

1167
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: like a fight with ferguson uh And if I'm Chandler

1168
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: or Poorier, I.

1169
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: Say each other. Next got to be for a title.

1170
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: This one should have been for a title, but then

1171
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: it beating what it is, you know, you know, why

1172
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: be rational about it? I don't know, but for sure

1173
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: that's the way I would go here. I want to

1174
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: say something about Dan Hooker man, because two losses in

1175
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: a row. The Potier loss was a battle, dude, And

1176
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: you know, every time I've interviewed Dan Hooker, the guy

1177
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: is a complete savage. I mean, the guy is a

1178
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: just a total animal. And he has been a little

1179
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: bit dismissive about the cost of damage. And again, Michael

1180
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: Chandler hits like a freight train. So I'm not saying

1181
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: what happened in Poarier caused what happened in Chandler. What

1182
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: I am saying is after Partier and now after Chandler, shit, man,

1183
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: it might be time for a little bit of a

1184
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: review about how much damage you're taking. And the worst

1185
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: part about it is and I feel so bad for him.

1186
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: He can't see his family until basically through all the

1187
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: quarantine till the.

1188
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: End of February. February twenty first.

1189
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like an eight week process. This is

1190
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: a terrible, terrible moment for him. And I really feel

1191
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: bad because he's not a bad guy. He's got ten

1192
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: career losses, but you never would guess, and he did

1193
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: have about three or four early.

1194
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: Also, his shin was badly depleted.

1195
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: But you know, you're not just talking about the insane

1196
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: five rounds of Poitier. You're not just talking about this

1197
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: knockout dude. He got the bags beaten off of him

1198
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: against Barbosa, and he was willing to show you how

1199
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: tough he can be. And then he had to go

1200
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: through war with Felder, a fight we never talked about

1201
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: Luke that was an absolute war.

1202
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: Do you buy that this was a retirement. He did

1203
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 4: leave his gloves in the cage, which was that verified?

1204
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: I know you brought that up.

1205
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: I saw it on Twitter, Luke.

1206
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: I've never seen something on the internet that didn't end

1207
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: up coming true. I mean maybe the election voting, yeah

1208
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: is that. But I mean I saw some video about

1209
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: Dana's in the media that it didn't look like that

1210
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: was true either. But yeah, I mean, he's got to

1211
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: think about it. He's got to get back with his family.

1212
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: But sometimes, Luke, when you've had enough chances at at crossing,

1213
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: at breaking through and proving your title ready and it

1214
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: keeps coming up empty, sometimes people know it that the

1215
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: price they're going to continue you have to pay won't

1216
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: be worth it.

1217
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: They may never get back there.

1218
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 3: And and maybe he's one of those guys who can

1219
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: be his toughest critic and just say, you know, I

1220
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: tried it, and I you know, and I and I

1221
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: put it.

1222
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: He's he's due for a reset.

1223
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's no denying that we have to dial back. Remember,

1224
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: he beat Paul Felder barely. That fight could have been

1225
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: scored for Felder. And but by the way, another war

1226
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: where his face was all fucked up, and I remember

1227
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: interviewing him afterwards He's like, nah.

1228
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: Two days later I was out fishing.

1229
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe you shouldn't have been, like Jesus Christ, like,

1230
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: it's not he is. Dan Hooker is the definition of

1231
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: too tough for his own good way, too tough because

1232
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: he like he's too skilled.

1233
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: For the amount of toughness he would show in.

1234
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: These correct I think that's right.

1235
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't like sometimes it flashes, like in the Gilbert

1236
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: Burns fight, where you're like, oh my god, this guy

1237
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: has so much ability. And then there's times where okay,

1238
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: this fight was over before it really got started. But

1239
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: certainly the Poarier fight you felt like, okay, he was

1240
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: overmatched by Poorier, but you know there's a.

1241
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: Lot of time for he just kind of sure, it's.

1242
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: Not you know, the bite down the mouth beast thing

1243
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: is is not necessarily going to be four of the

1244
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: best thing.

1245
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: It felt like in the Poarier fight, though, of all

1246
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: the wars he was in that not only did he

1247
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 3: leave himself physically, I feel like he left himself emotionally too,

1248
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: because that was his chance to try to beat dustin Poria,

1249
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: maybe get a title shot and Luke. I mean, he

1250
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: did not quit in those five rounds. He was trying

1251
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: to find ways to get back into that fight at

1252
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: every friggin turn. I wonder if he dumped at all

1253
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: and didn't know that he did so to speak, you know,

1254
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: and maybe now that he's realizing again that at the

1255
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: very least a break is in order, a long break

1256
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: to try to think about things.

1257
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: He's not as long as you think, though, isn't he

1258
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 4: thirty four?

1259
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: Who Hooker? Hooker?

1260
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: Let me see Dan Hooker currently sits at No. Thirty

1261
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: only thirty.

1262
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 2: He is young.

1263
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: He has come back. I'll take that back, okay.

1264
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, you can't keep fight like this now,

1265
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta dial it back a little bit.

1266
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: I mean, that's not the CKB way.

1267
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: Sources tell the Athletic. This is from Mike Coppinger.

1268
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: There are talks regarding a potential bout between Ryan Garcia

1269
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: and many Pacquiao. Preliminary discussions at the stage Pakia for

1270
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: forty two has he did since victory over Keith Throwing

1271
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: July twenty nineteen.

1272
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: He remains a champion, all right.

1273
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: You'd have Pacchio old but coming off and coming off

1274
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 3: a long layoff yet still being pomp u pound good,

1275
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: and you'd have Garcia moving up in Wait.

1276
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean how fast did they move on

1277
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: from Connor McGregor? Holy fuck?

1278
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: They they bolted on him like they like a jewel thief,

1279
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: smash and run.

1280
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we just.

1281
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Talked quickly about the best laid plans for UFC. Honestly,

1282
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: what do you think Dana's reaction was to this?

1283
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: Hold on?

1284
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: White talks about how there may be new challenges with

1285
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: a Biden administration because the potential impending changes to the

1286
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: travel rules and quarantine policy, so they'll have to navigate

1287
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Oh lord, we'll see how that

1288
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: goes your question.

1289
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what do you think Dana's reaction inside is

1290
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: to seeing Connor lose like that?

1291
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: So to your point, Dana White? To your point, Dana

1292
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: White also added Porie versus Chandler for the title is

1293
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: the most likely scenario of Habi vacates the title, which

1294
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's probably going to. That's the right move,

1295
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: was That's the absolute right move, no doubt about it.

1296
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Early impressions who wins, by the way, and by the way,

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: I say early. I say this as a way that

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: you can change your vote later if you feel like it.

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00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

1300
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: I think Poier is the better fighter. I think has

1301
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: more ways to win.

1302
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: But it's not different to how I saw this fight

1303
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: coming in, where I said, look, Pori is a better fighter,

1304
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: but I think Connor can find that chin. If Chandler

1305
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: is going to be this type of to be, Chamdler's

1306
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: going to be this type of I'm saying, if he's

1307
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: going to be this type of disarmour though with that bomb,

1308
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: you can't kind him out. But still, even though I

1309
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: went for Connor in this one, I'd go for Pooria.

1310
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm saying. Poorier showed in this fight. He

1311
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: can learn lessons, he can have a strategic approach, he

1312
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: can stick to it. And it's one thing to say

1313
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: I have to do a series of well rounded things

1314
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: to win, and then to effectively implement them really says

1315
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: a lot about how smart, crafty, well rounded he is.

1316
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: If he provides a similar level of caution in the

1317
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: first round against Chandler, he beats Chandler, no doubt about it,

1318
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: because I think one of those shots up against his

1319
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: dome and it rattles his brain. Dude, Poorier hits hard

1320
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: at one fifty five. He's not to be fucked with,

1321
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: and he has taken some damage. People oversold the damage

1322
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: that he took a little bit in terms of what

1323
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: it would mean for this context. He fought smartly enough

1324
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: that whatever damage he did take did not necessarily have

1325
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: any kind of ruins.

1326
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: He flipped the switch to go into finishing mode.

1327
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a speed, efficiency and surge of power

1328
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: that you know, he hadn't shown that throughout the fight.

1329
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: It was as if Luke, you think that was part

1330
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: of his strategy.

1331
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: No doubt about it, no doubt about it.

1332
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: He I think he said that he kind of rushed it,

1333
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: which maybe felt like a little bit instinctual. But dude,

1334
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: he's an experienced fighter. He knows when guys are hurt.

1335
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: He typically, for the most part, I think, knows how

1336
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: to manage that. Poria is a good finisher. He is

1337
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: like like Poorier has skills where some things are better

1338
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: than others. But like, what is he bad at? He Okay,

1339
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: he's an okay wrestler or something, but he's not bad

1340
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: at it. Like, he's not bad at any of these things.

1341
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: So really, any kind of scenario you can find him in.

1342
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: He'll have some kind of an answer for with the

1343
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: obcection of something like I Net made off who was

1344
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: like next level fucking amazing.

1345
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: And what's crazy though?

1346
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: And this is the honest truth, I don't know.

1347
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: If Poorier beats a a best version of Dough Bronx,

1348
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like you know, if that, if

1349
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: that becomes a title fighter, could change hands, could Chandlulin

1350
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: the bomb against Poorier? Absolutely could justin gage you get

1351
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 3: back into a title fight.

1352
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 4: You know, it wouldn't be impossible for.

1353
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: Him to beat Dustin in a rematch if he can

1354
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: get back and get back to the level we thought

1355
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: he was entering that Habib fight, right, I still don't

1356
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: see you know, let's say Poorier defensive a couple of times.

1357
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: I don't see that waking Habib up to want to

1358
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: come back. Let me see some reader mail here, see

1359
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: if we got anything.

1360
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Luke, if Poria is not even the champion

1361
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 3: right now, so we had to slow our role to

1362
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 3: a certain degree. But if he ends up being the champion,

1363
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: if he ends up putting title defenses together, would you

1364
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: hear talk of well you didn't beat Habib or is

1365
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 3: this one of those scenarios because he's beaten just about

1366
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: everybody else that you wouldn't.

1367
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: Hear that quote from a from a reader or a viewer.

1368
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: Great response to my question, Luke, Sorry, what was your question?

1369
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: I trind a multitask here.

1370
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: It's cool.

1371
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to multitask. What was your question?

1372
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: Just get to the Okay, Sorry, I'll read it for you,

1373
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: am I Drunker. Was Connor in a much different stance

1374
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: for much of the fight, which essentially we heard their

1375
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: claiming was more flat footed in the pocket, which is

1376
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: why he was open to leg kicks. Did you detect that?

1377
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: Was he more flat footed? Maybe a little bit?

1378
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: I didn't detect it, but.

1379
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean, did you see him trying to change things up,

1380
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: to change the entry points, to do anything, or or

1381
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, was it still you know,

1382
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: seek and destroy with that left hand.

1383
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: So that's the thing.

1384
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: Though Connor usually just has one or two gears. He's

1385
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: got different things inside of him, but he doesn't do

1386
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 1: a whole lot. Plus, if you lost the first fight,

1387
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: isn't incumbent upon you to make the most amount of

1388
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: changes to win the second. So that was a bit

1389
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: of an element of surprise, which makes the third five

1390
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: potentially kind of interesting given Porier is kind of revealed,

1391
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, his strategy. Could you replicate that well in

1392
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: this case the second time, but a third fight, I

1393
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Usually in MMA, if you win the second fight,

1394
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: usually win the trilogy. Overall, that tends to be how

1395
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: it goes. Is not always true, but it tends to

1396
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: be that way. So I would like Poria's chances there.

1397
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1398
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: I gotta have to review the tape exactly to get

1399
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: a real clear sense of things. But Connor looked good

1400
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: in parts, and I'm telling you, man, he'd looked God

1401
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: frail is not the right word, but he did not

1402
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: look like the Connor against Eddie Alvarez a long shot

1403
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: in in a lot of those scenarios. I was very,

1404
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: very surprised at age seemed to or maybe that, you know,

1405
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it was just tonight, maybe when he comes

1406
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: back in the No.

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 3: Well, that's a key debate here, because you know, I

1408
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: already got people texting me going, you know, it's Connor

1409
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: don Dunzo at thirty, you know, and he's thirty two.

1410
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: But like where we have to decide whether that was

1411
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 3: because he fought Pourier that it went that way or

1412
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: whether that is just just slowly going away from him

1413
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: slowly the reactions, the speed, the explosiveness.

1414
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: Do you like my idea about Ferguson? If not, who

1415
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: else would you like to th to see him fight next?

1416
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: I mean Ferguson is perfect because it seems like he's

1417
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: certainly more damaged in Gaechee, so's it's not as dangerous,

1418
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: but it's probably the same in terms of fan interest

1419
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: in selling it.

1420
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: So I think you still put Connor mcgregors as.

1421
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: Your pay per view a side in any of these

1422
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: non title situations, and I think Ferguson makes a lot

1423
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 3: of sense.

1424
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: How much does this damage the stock of Connor? Well?

1425
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: If he wanted to change paths now and go on

1426
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: and go on more.

1427
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: Of the celebrity route, right like fight and eight DS

1428
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: next still sells a lot, especially if he wins that

1429
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: you know, and and if you want to do things

1430
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: like that, I mean, you can do a Max Holloway rematch,

1431
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: you can do really big things that aren't situated just

1432
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: inside the lightweight title picture. But Luke, it seems like

1433
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: he wants to get inside that lightweight title picturing and

1434
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: do it.

1435
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: So it.

1436
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 3: Adds a lot of questions and intrigue to his next fight,

1437
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: no matter who he's fighting, and that will certainly equal

1438
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: interest in pay per view bys and all that. It

1439
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 3: doubles down on the questions that he's going to face

1440
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: entering this next fight.

1441
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 4: But again, this next fight, if.

1442
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: He wins it, it will not have completely damaged I mean, really,

1443
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: if you can get himself back to the to the

1444
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: Pooria trilogy, If Poorier beats Chandler and stays champion, and

1445
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: dust and Connor wins whoever he's matched with next, then

1446
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: he's right back there where he was.

1447
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Here's the question you have to ask yourself if you're

1448
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: a Connomergregor fan, can he still win in the octagon if?

1449
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,479
Speaker 1: The answer I think is very much of course. Again,

1450
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: I think a fight against Ferguson would be the smart

1451
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: play for a lot of reasons. But can you make

1452
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: up for lost time now? On the one hand, everyone's

1453
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: going to have an injury in their career that sidelines

1454
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: them for amount of time. We talked about it before

1455
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: Parier prior to the Hooker Bolt was out for a

1456
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: solid year. Okay, that's time you can't get back. But

1457
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: basically he'd been pretty consistent the whole time. Connor has

1458
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: lost significant amounts of time not actively competing, not just

1459
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: the last year, but of course all the time since.

1460
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: Basically UFC two O five.

1461
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: He's been really, really, really inconsistent and you know, not

1462
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: probably done the things that he should have done relative

1463
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: to someone who was strictly and intently focused on remaining

1464
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: a high level fighter at MMA.

1465
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: How much of that can you get back by now

1466
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: doubling down on all of it?

1467
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: I think there's still a question about that, the part

1468
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: about I need to be more active, to be better conditioned,

1469
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: all the things I need to be there for my game.

1470
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1471
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: I suspect if he comes back relatively quickly because he

1472
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: took some damage here, but not the kind of it's

1473
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: going to keep him out for too too long, right,

1474
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: I think we both agree on that.

1475
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he wilted and crumbled quick so it didn't

1476
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 3: take much, did it.

1477
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 4: So No, it didn't.

1478
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 3: And and that's the thing again the reference I made. Yeah,

1479
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: he traded back and forth with Nate, but most of

1480
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: that fight he was in more of a dominant position.

1481
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he started that rematch with Nate dropping him

1482
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: and cutting him and kind of beating him up, and

1483
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: he stood the the Nate comebacks of where you know,

1484
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: his stamina had dumped in. Yes, in the last sort

1485
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: of round and a half, there were two way exchanges.

1486
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: But you just don't see that in Connor's career a lot.

1487
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: So uh, you know, he wilts when the stamina catches

1488
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 3: up to him quickly, he wilts quickly when that leads

1489
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: to a submission.

1490
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 4: And it seemed here that that there wasn't a you know,

1491
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: a bite down.

1492
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: On a recovery.

1493
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: And again it goes back to that debate.

1494
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: Is it because he's slipping, Is it because Pourier is

1495
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 3: a super all time great elite or.

1496
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: Is it a little bit of both.

1497
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: Probably is probably the next fight for conn Connor's never

1498
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: lost to in a row.

1499
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: That's a his next fight could not be bigger.

1500
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 4: Here's the here's a key question.

1501
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 3: He did interviews this week where he changed a little

1502
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: bit of his tune and he said, like, I'm gonna

1503
01:02:59,320 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: be fighting forever.

1504
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna have.

1505
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 3: To you know, we get pulled out, they don't have

1506
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: to wheel me out of here. I'm just I could

1507
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: see myself, you know, thirty year. You know, he basically

1508
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: was trying to say, I'm just going to keep fighting forever.

1509
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: We don't normally see him talk like that. It's a

1510
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: little bit more the opposite. How many losses, you know,

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01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: consecutively or in a group he would allow himself to

1512
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 3: take before kind of just going, you know, that's it.

1513
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: You know, maybe I'll go box, or maybe I'll go

1514
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: do something else, but I want I don't want to,

1515
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 3: you know, I want to preserve the legacy. Does that

1516
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: matter to him? Or could you see him Chuck Ladelling

1517
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: it to a degree?

1518
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's know, I don't mean.

1519
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: That exactly the Ladell way, which was he just can't

1520
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: take punches anymore. But I mean, would he allow himself

1521
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: to lose three out of four moving forward and still

1522
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: come back in the interviews and say, you know what,

1523
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: I just got to change some things or you know, you.

1524
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: Know, I doubt he would do that. I'm I'm you know,

1525
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: who knows. I'm skeptical.

1526
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: Listen, it was just one loss, and it's against the

1527
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: guy we're telling the world is you know absent who

1528
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: you've never gonna make a participation. Certainly the best lightweight

1529
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: on Earth, and I think that is true. I don't

1530
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: want to go too far with it. It was not there,

1531
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: and there were parts of Connor performance was talking about

1532
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: which I thought were pretty good. You know, again that

1533
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: boxing is just it's on fire every time. It's really

1534
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: quite adept. Although I was look at the tape again,

1535
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: what did it was a leg kick and then that

1536
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: check right hook and it had it had Connor stumbling

1537
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: like this, and then when he came to I think

1538
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: Party it looked at him and Connor didn't look good,

1539
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: and then they switched positions and then Partier just set

1540
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: him on fire. So it was like Connor's boxing was

1541
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: so good that there was nothing to be said for it.

1542
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: But the general striking game of Partier was tonight certainly

1543
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: too much. It was one loss and it was not

1544
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: it was It wasn't a horrible loss, but it definitely

1545
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: wasn't a not that big of a deal loss, and there's.

1546
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: Some things to be concerned about.

1547
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 3: His next move is maybe his most critical mone So

1548
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: here's the okay. So if his disagree, I agree with you.

1549
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: And if his next like if we find out Luke,

1550
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: they's gonna come back against like you know, Diego Sanchez

1551
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: or Mike Perire.

1552
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 4: No, no, he's not gonna do it.

1553
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: But if he does that, that would tell us something

1554
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: really bad. But he also, by the way, could be

1555
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: still have the competitor inside of him say I'm coming

1556
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: back against whomever else get justin Gaichee for all we know,

1557
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: and still lose that, you know what I mean, and

1558
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: still lose that just because I would stay away from

1559
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 3: Gaichi just because the other guy was better, I would

1560
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: one hundred percent stay away from Gate, especially now with

1561
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: the leg kicks. And by the way, Haabib did say

1562
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: that leg kick from geiche was the hardest strike you

1563
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: ever absorbed, So there is something there.

1564
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: But you get my point. The next step is very crucial.

1565
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: It's in terms of, you know, how you frame it,

1566
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: how he announces it, what he's aiming for, because again,

1567
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: if you go that route, if you go the stupid

1568
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: route and you just take a serious get well fight,

1569
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: you get another cowboy fight. It's just not going to

1570
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: help you. It's not gonna look good. You got look,

1571
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 3: you got it. If you're him right now, for the

1572
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 3: public to take that side of it seriously, the competitor,

1573
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: maybe Nate Diez is the only neutral answer in here.

1574
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 4: But you've got to come back.

1575
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about the Nadiaz angle out. We should

1576
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: say that from.

1577
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: Well, you've got to come back and fight either fergusoner

1578
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: Gaische to get back.

1579
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: And it's coming off of a loss to hore maswell

1580
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: as well too. All Right, there's so many other pieces

1581
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: of this card. We've been going for about an hour,

1582
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: which is about how long.

1583
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: We should go.

1584
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: So let me ask you what we want to save

1585
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: some stuff for Monday. We'll revisit some of these bigger

1586
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: topics as well again Monday eleven am Live in the

1587
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: East here from morning Combat. Give me one more key

1588
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: takeaway from the night that you had anywhere else on

1589
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: that card. Not made her comaine anything else, anything else

1590
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: about the evening.

1591
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 3: Look that the women's straweight division that I lawed all

1592
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: the time and has been one of the most consistently competitive.

1593
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: It's a vision. It's a pit of vipers.

1594
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: Since it launched in twenty fourteen. Look, it's I mean,

1595
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: there's just no easy way. We were ready to annoy

1596
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: Amanda Hebis as the next title challenger and the next

1597
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: like great personality and fresher breath. There and again one

1598
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: loss isn't going to change that. She can't be that.

1599
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: But she went in there and she got she she

1600
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: got buzz sawed by Marina Rodriguez and Rodriguez. You know,

1601
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: we'd said coming in on HQ and everywhere else, you know,

1602
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: this is a tough out. I know the odds are

1603
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: really getting heavier in Hebus's direction. But you know, I

1604
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't have guessed it ended like this. I wouldn't have

1605
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: guess she got straight up steamrolled. And I know those

1606
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 3: her Dean had a weird reaction and you know, he

1607
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: almost looked like he was going to go for the

1608
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: stoppage and Hadriguez walked away.

1609
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that on Monday.

1610
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: That didn't lead luckily to changing what was probably gonna

1611
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 3: happen anyway, and where we were in that moment, and

1612
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: we need to be doing more talking about Marina Rodriguez

1613
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 3: and Luke, like you know, whether we're talking about the

1614
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: title level, like if Rose gets back in there with

1615
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: Wayley Jong.

1616
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 4: Kind of like Rose in that one, you know what

1617
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 4: I mean?

1618
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: Like there is no match up here in the top

1619
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: ten where where anything's a lock right now, that division

1620
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: always delivers the.

1621
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: Pay per view was a disaster in the sense of

1622
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: sales and listen, I get it. Connor McGregor's fighting you're

1623
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: going to get overloaded at the last minute. It really

1624
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: is the issue. Apparently, Eric Winter, who had worked for

1625
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: Yahoo and UFC for a time, he was saying, the

1626
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: big challenge in pay per view online sales because if

1627
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: you don't realize a bunch of people tonight tried to

1628
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: buy the pay per view last minute.

1629
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: On ESPN Plus.

1630
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: JJ Watt of the Houston Texans chief among them, and

1631
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: was fucking bitter about it because it didn't work. A

1632
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of people were bitter about it. It worked for us,

1633
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: but you know, ESPN Plus is a garbage service. Is

1634
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: so many issues with it. But one of the key

1635
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: issues is there was two things that were about it.

1636
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: One BC he was saying that they had this encountered

1637
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: issue when Mayweather fought McGregor. Yes, okay, if you had

1638
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: that issue in twenty seventeen, it should no longer be

1639
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: an issue for a pay per view that is going

1640
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: to do obviously super huge numbers, but a fraction of

1641
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: what Mayweather McGregor actually did.

1642
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the first thing to.

1643
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: Get out there again, that was split up among a

1644
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: variety of different ways to buy it. But still you

1645
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: had four years to work on this. To do that

1646
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: in the shadow of all of those claims about going

1647
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: after piracy and a pirate in particular, and then to

1648
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 1: fuck it up this royally.

1649
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether it was conspiratorially caused by that or not,

1650
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: it looks horrible.

1651
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, if you want people to if you

1652
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: want to combat piracy, maybe the best way to do

1653
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: that is to offer a cer that works. That's just

1654
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: me thinking out loud, because I've never worked.

1655
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:04,959
Speaker 4: On my laptop.

1656
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: That's that streaming system has never worked on my laptop.

1657
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: And I know people who are like, I buy it

1658
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: through PS four it works, or I buy it through

1659
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: whatever and it works. Everyone's got their own hack. I've

1660
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: found ones that work for me versus better than other ones.

1661
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't work on my smart TV, it does work

1662
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: on my laptop, blah blah blah. But it shouldn't be

1663
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: that fucking hard, man, it should not be that hard.

1664
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: So listen, there's a bunch of other things to get

1665
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: to Armansar Yuki and looked fucking incredible. Brat Tavares had

1666
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: a nice win. There was a lot that happened on

1667
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: this card. That was really a whole lot to get to.

1668
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: Herb Dean Stoppage a bit of a mess, but we're

1669
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna save some of that because we give us a brawl.

1670
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: Calderwood had a great win as well of just Guy.

1671
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty impressive. There's a lot to

1672
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: get to on that card. We got to a bunch

1673
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: of it tonight. So please one more time thumbs up

1674
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: on the video, hit that subscribe button because we put

1675
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: out content all the time. We've been away from our families,

1676
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: giving each other coronavirus every single day, trying to try to.

1677
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: Get content for you.

1678
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in the studio on Monday eleven

1679
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: a m with a live reaction to everything we saw

1680
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: this weekend and everything we did not cover on to

1681
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: today's show. Plus will incorporate all the news that's gonna

1682
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: come out tomorrow. Connor's gonna have a statement, Beam's gonna

1683
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: have more of a statement. There's gonna be more news.

1684
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: We'll take all of that and bring it in there.

1685
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: Plus we'll take your questions if you We'll put up

1686
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,480
Speaker 1: a post up tomorrow on Instagram.

1687
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: Leave your questions there. When we do.

1688
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: Have you seen this ship, we'll do that's that's one

1689
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: of your tasks. Anything else that the final thoughts, this

1690
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: was fun, man. I really wish we could do this

1691
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: in studio more often.

1692
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 4: Of course on that definitely one.

1693
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, if you were French Canadian I

1694
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 3: would now kiss you. But the point I'm trying to

1695
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: make here, Luke is this is not a historic night,

1696
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: but this will be a memorable night, and not just

1697
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 3: because every McGregor fight tends to be. But again, that

1698
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 3: image of Connor McGregor, it got stopped, he got he

1699
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: got knocked out.

1700
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 4: That's that's a stunner.

1701
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: And you know, this was the night that you know,

1702
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 3: Dustin Porier and Michael Chandler had major monster moment, the.

1703
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: Two guys who had long awaited some recognition. You know,

1704
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: the question is is it a is it a is

1705
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: it a stumbling block to greater heights for McGregor or

1706
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: is it a harbinger of things to come?

1707
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: And you know they don't know we're in quarantine. This

1708
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 3: fight was an Abu Dhabi. Yet this felt like a

1709
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 3: big pay per view week and it was a lot

1710
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 3: of fun.

1711
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, certainly did all right, well, Thank you guys

1712
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: so much for watching, and uh, we'll see you guys

1713
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: on Monday. I'll have some analysis from the I'll break

1714
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: down some video tomorrow and i'll post that. But until then,

1715
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: may all of your gains be loyal.

1716
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: When the camera's rolling, I like the danger in it.

1717
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: Heart pounds, it defies logic. It's thrilling to me.