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Speaker 1: really enticing. But I like established things, and so I

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Speaker 1: am more likely to trade for something that I know

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Speaker 1: exactly what I'm getting, rather than wait for the draft

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Speaker 1: and speculate on what I could get, what might be,

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Speaker 1: what could be. I'm gonna tell what I know is

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Speaker 1: no doubt. And let me just give you these four

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Speaker 1: points I jotted down when when I really looked at

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Speaker 1: this trade from the Texas perspective. Let me be the

435
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Speaker 1: four reasons why they did this trade. Number One, Protect Watson.

436
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Speaker 1: We've just been through that. You can't allow him to

437
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Speaker 1: take the beating he's taken, so you gotta protect Watson.

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Speaker 1: I do think Andrew luck Um seeing that firsthand, I

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Speaker 1: think that impact of it. So number one, protect Watson.

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Speaker 1: Number two again having to do with Andrew luck Your

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Speaker 1: your window is open right now. You've got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal. We talked about it all the time.

443
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Speaker 1: Load up. This is your time, go make your run.

444
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: And in that division now the gap at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position between Houston and everybody else is large. They've got

446
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Speaker 1: a chance right now. This is your time. Make it happen.

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Speaker 1: Number three, there is no left tackle tree. Okay, there's

448
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Speaker 1: no left tackle pipeline colleges since they change the rules

449
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Speaker 1: where they're not allowed to spend as much time on

450
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Speaker 1: the practice field, they have not been able to develop

451
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You look around the preseason this year, you

452
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Speaker 1: will not find sixty four quality offensive tackles. In fact,

453
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Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find thirty two of them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking left or right, just guys you can

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Speaker 1: play with and you can win with. There is there

456
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Speaker 1: is none. There's not enough talented left tackles coming in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So you get one, like you said, the

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Speaker 1: known commodity. That's number three, the last one. And this

459
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Speaker 1: is is part of the discussion I think buck is

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Speaker 1: we talk about having a head coach and a general manager.

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Speaker 1: A head coach is always right now, tomorrow, today, what's

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Speaker 1: gonna help us win. A general manager long term. That's

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Speaker 1: why it used to be general managers could hire a

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Speaker 1: couple of coaches because they always had to look after

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Speaker 1: the long term of the organization, where a head coach

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Speaker 1: is trying to just make sure he survives another year.

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Speaker 1: So this was a right now decision. Not saying it's

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Speaker 1: right or wrong. I'm just saying head coaches look at

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Speaker 1: it and say, we gotta play next week. I need

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Speaker 1: some help right, and that's why you see a decision

471
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Speaker 1: like this being made. It's funny. I love all these

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Speaker 1: points like because all these points I think, uh apply

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Speaker 1: several situations. But in Houston, it is all about the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You have a legitimate quarterback. You found him in the draft,

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Speaker 1: you identify him. Now, let's been around him. You brought

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Speaker 1: up the example with Jared Golf and what the Rams

477
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Speaker 1: did with Jared Golf in terms of surrounding him, putting

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Speaker 1: the fortress by him, and he has played like a

479
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Speaker 1: king since that point. Uh, the championship window being opened

480
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Speaker 1: right now. As much as we like to speculate, like

481
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Speaker 1: hey man, this team is gonna be good to go

482
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Speaker 1: for the next two, three or four years, we never

483
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Speaker 1: know on a year to year basis, the chemistry and

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Speaker 1: the continuity of the team changes. If the window is open,

485
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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta bust through the window right now.

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Speaker 1: This is their chance. Um. In terms of the pipeline there,

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Speaker 1: you're right, there isn't a pipeline in college there. There

488
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Speaker 1: isn't a single college that is pumping out offensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman at a rate where we're saying, hey, these

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Speaker 1: guys can absolutely get it done. You just go to

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Speaker 1: this university, you can get it. We talked about Stanford

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Speaker 1: and all the offensive lineman that have come out of

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Speaker 1: Stanford the last few years. Those guys haven't really panned

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Speaker 1: out of materialize. So if Stanford is at the upper end,

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the elite programs them in Iowa and

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Speaker 1: maybe Wisconsin hard yeah has been yeah. So it's hard

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Speaker 1: to find him. And so if I can't find him,

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Speaker 1: then what I gotta do is I gotta overpay because

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Speaker 1: someone else in the pros has developed my guy. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him from you. So that's what you do.

501
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: And then the head coach versus general manager Bate is

502
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Speaker 1: one that always goes on in meeting rooms around the league.

503
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Speaker 1: The head coach is short term. He is singlely focused

504
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Speaker 1: on what can I do to help us win week one,

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Speaker 1: week two through weeks sixteen. The general manager is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the one that acts as the checks and

507
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Speaker 1: balances to the head coach. Hey, coach, hold on, we

508
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Speaker 1: still gotta set this up for a sustained run. But

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Speaker 1: the way it's going now, DJ the way the volatility

510
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Speaker 1: in the league is, you can't even really think about

511
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Speaker 1: a long term plan. You gotta find a way to

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Speaker 1: get your team into the playoffs and win some games,

513
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Speaker 1: and hopefully that playoff run will buy you some time

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Speaker 1: to then rebuild on the fly. There's no long term

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Speaker 1: plans to as a project, I'm gonna tear it down

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Speaker 1: and then don't build it back up, even though the

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Speaker 1: Dolphs are trying to do that. Owners want to see

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Speaker 1: if you can UH win, then repair while you're winning,

519
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Speaker 1: not rebald why you're winning, and the last thing, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll move on and talk to UH to our

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Speaker 1: buddy Bruce Feldman. But um, I know they do not

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Speaker 1: have a first round pick the next two years, but

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Speaker 1: now is the time and as I'm guessing it's Necessario.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what most people in the league expect

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Speaker 1: to happen, that once the year is over that Necessario

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Speaker 1: will make that leap from New England and income be

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Speaker 1: the general manager there for Bill O'Brien in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: But if it's not Nixt somebody else, you better get

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Speaker 1: the right GM because next year, while you have no one,

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Speaker 1: I believe they have a second round pick, and with

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Speaker 1: comp picks, I think even Peter King might have said this.

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Speaker 1: They have, they could have three third round picks next year,

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Speaker 1: and I believe to fourth round picks. So while you

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Speaker 1: don't have a one, three threes, two fours, you've got

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Speaker 1: it to you better make sure you're scouting department is

536
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Speaker 1: led by the right guy and you can go out

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Speaker 1: and find those key players. And because now that the

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Speaker 1: margin of air is is not there, I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: you've got you've got to hit on those picks. Um,

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Speaker 1: you can't afford to miss on them. So that to

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Speaker 1: me is underscores the importance then hiring the right guy. Look,

542
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Speaker 1: we can talk about this. We saw the Seattle Seahawks

543
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: kinda um take a loaf of bread and feed the masses.

544
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Speaker 1: They sliced it off, didn't have many picks, sliced it off,

545
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Speaker 1: and they were able to get um a plethora of

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Speaker 1: picks that allowed them to kind of fortify their roster.

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Speaker 1: We will see the next general manager that comes to Houston.

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Speaker 1: He has to be one of those guys that can

549
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Speaker 1: be a miracle worker. He has to be able to

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Speaker 1: take the handful of picks that they have trade, parlay

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Speaker 1: those into multiple picks, and then parlay those picks and

552
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: two players and so it's a multi tiered process, but

553
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Speaker 1: they got to expanded amount of picks they have and

554
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Speaker 1: then they got to bring in the right players to

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Speaker 1: fill the knees on their team and also gonna have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to be active in free agency. I would

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Speaker 1: believe too, when you're not not gonna have a first

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Speaker 1: round pick the next couple of years, you probably get

559
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Speaker 1: a big ticket item, uh there in free agency. So

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to follow this Texas team and see

561
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Speaker 1: what they end up doing. Going full all right, buck,

562
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Speaker 1: let's switch gears here talk a little college football. I

563
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Speaker 1: had a chance a little bit earlier today to catch

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Speaker 1: up with our buddy Bruce Feldman. I'm sure you know

565
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Speaker 1: who Bruce says. If you don't, Bruce works for The Athletic,

566
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Speaker 1: is one of the best writers for college football and

567
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: has been for a very long time working for various outlets,

568
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Speaker 1: and does a wonderful job on Fox as a sideline

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Speaker 1: reporter for one of their top college football teams. Nobody

570
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: knows these college kids better than Bruce Feldman. He has

571
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Speaker 1: been a great resource for us over the years and

572
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Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with him about some of

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Speaker 1: the goings on from week one of the college football season.

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Speaker 1: Hey Bruce, I appreciate you joining us. Man. I understand

575
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Speaker 1: we're at a baseball game right now, so if we

576
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Speaker 1: hear a little noise in the background, you're not actually

577
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Speaker 1: participating in this game though. Right we're watching. We're watching

578
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Speaker 1: some youngsters out there. We are watching. It's my five,

579
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Speaker 1: your old sign. It's the beginning of a baseball practice.

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Speaker 1: That kind of what kind of swing? What kind of

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Speaker 1: swing are we working with here? Uh? Not bad, he's

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Speaker 1: a little but he's really into it. So his favorite

583
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Speaker 1: players today, which he's he's got the profiled down. That's

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Speaker 1: a good that's good comp right there and scouting gotta

585
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Speaker 1: have a good cop. He's already got it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I want to jump into some of these

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to jump out of some of

588
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Speaker 1: these college football topics. Here. For the first thing I

589
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about because I thought watching football

590
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Speaker 1: all weekend and getting a chance to to watch a

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Speaker 1: lot of tape of these games, the thing that kind

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Speaker 1: of just stood out to me. I thought the star

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Speaker 1: of the weekend was really Lincoln Riley. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: this guy has been able to do year after year

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Speaker 1: after year Uh, we know about the transfers, two first

596
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Speaker 1: round picks to first overall picks, and here comes Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts and Uh, Bruce to me looked looked more comfortable,

598
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: look more confident as a passer. This scheme seems to

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Speaker 1: fit him. And I just keep coming back to Lincoln Riley,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that we've seen anything like what

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Speaker 1: he's been able to do in terms of really getting

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Speaker 1: the best out of this position. Yeah. User friendly to

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Speaker 1: the extreme. And I think what's really interesting here as

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Speaker 1: you have three very distinct personality and all Baker runs

605
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Speaker 1: pretty well. Obviously Kyler runs really well, and Jalen Hurts

606
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: as a bigger dude who runs well. But the personalities

607
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: are really really different. I think to make them all

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Speaker 1: fit is impressive. How he gets guys comfortable. And remember

609
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: the first two guys were transfers, they sat out a year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jalen just got there in the spring, hit the ground running.

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Speaker 1: Also new offensive line, I think, and I've said this

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Speaker 1: a couple huns before, I think the best kept secret

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Speaker 1: in in major college football is attached to Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 1: And that's Bill beaton Ball, the offensive line coach. They

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Speaker 1: only had one guy back and what what he does

616
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: not just develop in his guys, but also in the

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Speaker 1: way they scheme up some stuff in the run game.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of Beaton Ball and Riley working together.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't think, uh, he probably gets enough

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Speaker 1: credit for what he does. But but Lincoln's ability to

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Speaker 1: attack defenses and get people off balance with things, it's

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Speaker 1: just like he always has a lot of interesting little wrinkles.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what I don't that that may

624
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: sen very different from the other Arad guys. But Leech

625
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Speaker 1: does what Leech does, and he doesn't really add stuff

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to take anything away from the system. Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: it feels like he's always adding stuff and he makes

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Speaker 1: it where it's pretty seamless. And how he's able to

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Speaker 1: get these guys to grasp it. This is really early.

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Speaker 1: I know it's just one weekend of the season, but

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Speaker 1: it just kind of begs the question, you know, three

632
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Speaker 1: years from now, five years from now, is Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: still is he still a Norman at that time in

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Speaker 1: your opinion, or do you think this is eventually going

635
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Speaker 1: to get to the point where he wants to scratch

636
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Speaker 1: an itch and and go try it, try it out

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Speaker 1: at the next level. Eventually, I think we'll get to

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00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: that point. I don't think he's there now for a

639
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One, he has a really young family

640
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: that they've gotten settled in there too. I think he

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00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: knows he's got a great situation. He's got the best

642
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: id in college football he works for in Jocastiglione. I

643
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: think he sees an opportunity to really make an imprint

644
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: in college football what he can do there. And I

645
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: think he knows that the NFL is going to be there, um,

646
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, five years from now. I think, what if

647
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: you're him, You're pretty close to having a real shot

648
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: to win some rings there. And I'm talking to national titles,

649
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: not Big ten title, big twelve titles. And the addition

650
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: to Alex Brine as a defensive coordinator. Now this is

651
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: his staff. I don't want to say that, you know,

652
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: he didn't feel any sense of ownership when when Mike

653
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Stoup's Bob's brother was running the offense or in the

654
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: other the defense. But I do feel like there is

655
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: h a window here. And again, you know, he recruited

656
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: at a quarterback who was a freshman from Arizona Spencer Rattler,

657
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: who is a really good fit. I mean, it feels

658
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: like almost everybody, if you have talent, is a good

659
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: fit for what Lincoln's gonna do, because you're gonna fit

660
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: it to you. But I think I think he's gonna

661
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: be there for the run of at least wherever happens

662
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: in the next four or five years with these recruits.

663
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: And then I would see I would not be surprised

664
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: if he jumped, but I would I would. I would

665
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: be a little surprised if you jump within the next

666
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: year or so. Well, I have to wait for him.

667
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: The NFL might have to wait for him, I should say.

668
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: But I know one thing. I guarantee you that these

669
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: these Oklahoma games aren't just being watched around college football.

670
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I guarantee there's NFL teams in NFL offensive coordinators studying

671
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: what Lincoln's doing, because he seems to add a couple

672
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: of good wrinkles each and every time you see this

673
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Oklahoma team play. A couple other quarterbacks wanted to hit

674
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: on before we get over some other guys um from

675
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: from these four what stood out to you the most

676
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: in Week one? From tah Herbert from and Jordan's Love.

677
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: Which which one of those guys to me, UM created

678
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the most buzz or caught your eye the most. Well,

679
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: the one caught my eye the most was actually the

680
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: one I'm still kind of on the fence on, and

681
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: that's Justin Herbert and he's got a huge arm, he's athletic,

682
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: he's really smart. In the first half of that game,

683
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: he and Marcus Arroyo d O C for Oregon were

684
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: on the attack, and that's a really good defensive against

685
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: terrific d line. Pretty talented on the back end too,

686
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: and I thought they were aggressive in the second half. Again,

687
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a function of this

688
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: really limited uh you know what, they were able to

689
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: get open because they're there receiving corps a little banged

690
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: up and it's not great to begin with, UM, but

691
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: they just looked very passive, and I think that's a

692
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: concern because when you watch him, as talented as he is,

693
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: you start to you know, I've made this comparison to

694
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: some people I know in the business, and I was like,

695
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a little bit of blame

696
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: gabber in him. Where he's got all the physical tools

697
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, this guy's an o T a

698
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or and he neft would play in the NFL.

699
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: But you wonder if he is the first pick of

700
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: the draft kind of kind of guy. Um, is there

701
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: some Josh Allen in him? You know? Or it's just

702
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um. So that's the part where again

703
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: I was expecting him. I guess it was, I don't know,

704
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: probably like nine o'clock Eastern. I'm looking at like this

705
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: is the first pick of the draft, war CN now,

706
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: and then by the end of the night, it didn't

707
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: look like it looked like the guy who struggled against

708
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: Michigan State, who has a really good defense too, and

709
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: struggled on some of the other big stages, struggled on

710
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: the road. So, um, that's the one I was most

711
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: intrigued by because the other guys were especially to you know,

712
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: great receivers. He's in better shape now, no doubt about it.

713
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: It was lighting up an interior physically. I think he's

714
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: he's special, you know. I to me, there's no doubts

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: on him. The one I like, I said, the one

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: I keep going back on his justin I think he's

717
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: kind of an enigma at this point. Yeah, I'm with

718
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: you on on Herbert. To me, Josh Allen was the

719
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: name that kind of crept in a little bit. But

720
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: even Josh Allen, I would say, just maybe a little

721
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: bit more instinctive and reactive. I just feel with Herbert man,

722
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: even like you go to the Stanford game last year,

723
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: he could look unbelievable for these stretches and all of

724
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: a sudden he just kind of loses it, loses the feel,

725
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: um just some of the reaction stuff that's almost backyard football.

726
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: You want to see some of that. Um, just natural

727
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: instincts take over. And I know it's like this is

728
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: nitpicking and and I know some people will think it's silly,

729
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: but it just bothers me on the very last play

730
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: of the game, that you don't have enough feel for

731
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: the football that you put I think ten yards out

732
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone. I mean, that

733
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: just is just I don't know that that bothers me,

734
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: because if you have a feel for throwing the football

735
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: that isn't that is at the goal line to two

736
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: to three yards into the end zone and you've got

737
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: a chance, even if you don't catch it for a

738
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: tip up to catch it but the the elite guys

739
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: can control the ball. The thing was ten yards out

740
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone. Yeah, that's the

741
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: thing that was the issue. I'm watching the game with

742
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: my colleague Brock here and obviously a former NFL quarterback,

743
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: and that is not it's not a hail Mary. If

744
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: that kid's armed, that's just a show. And he makes

745
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: that throw and I'm like, man, he's gonna put something

746
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: on the line. And then it's like, give somebody a chance.

747
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean it just it almost looked like was that

748
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: repped in practice? You know, it wasn't like he was

749
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: at the at you know, his own forty five and

750
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: he just got up into it. And that's I'm with

751
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: you on that. That was like just disappointing. Yeah, no doubt.

752
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about two defensive guys. I'm

753
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: gonna let you get back to baseball practice here. Um,

754
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about Terrell Lewis. I know

755
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: he's had the injuries there at Alabama, but man, Bruce,

756
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: when you watch Alabama's defense and always you're going to

757
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: see some freaky guys on that Tide defense, but he

758
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: looks freakier than all of them. Man, that dude is

759
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: a specimen and he is explosive. Yeah, you know what,

760
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: he is long as can be. It's just staying healthy.

761
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the guy I remember a couple

762
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: of years ago at the National Title game. You know,

763
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: you're around more of the Alabama staff at that point,

764
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: just because they're all out and for us, they're a

765
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: little more comfortable to talk off the record and you know,

766
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: face to face, and everybody's like that guy. And it's

767
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: funny because you know, they have so many five star

768
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: guys in that program. Sometimes the guy who might have

769
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: been a high four star kind of gets clossed over.

770
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: And it's not because they weren't you know, a big

771
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: stud in high school or a touted prospect. It's just

772
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: they get overshadowed and that guy is a little different.

773
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know they have guys who who

774
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: may have run or you know, like a reported four

775
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: four seven at a combine or vertical jump this. But

776
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: and you talk to and this is your world, but

777
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: you talked to NFL scouting like, yeah, when we had him,

778
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: that kid was like a four or six something or

779
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: they're not quite I mean, there's they're soon a build,

780
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: super athletic, but they're not quite as what they were,

781
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, touted to be um and this kid, it

782
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: seems like it's almost the opposite. Where you talk to

783
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: people inside the program, they're like, no, he's really really special.

784
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: He just gotta just gotta stay on the wheel. No,

785
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: it was. It was fun to watch him run around.

786
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: Hopefully just a healthy one more guy. I know you've

787
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: got a chance, uh to see him in person there

788
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: and talk to the coaches having done that Stanford Northwestern game,

789
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Paulson Adibo. I liked him when I watched him over

790
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: the summer. I didn't necessarily put him up with those uh,

791
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: those top couple guys when you look at at the

792
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: corner at l s U and you look at the

793
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: corner at Ohio State. But man, I watched that game,

794
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: and I haven't got a chance to watch the tape yet, Bruce,

795
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: but I remember thinking like, WHOA, no, yeah, he he

796
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: looks like he belongs up there in that class and

797
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: pulse And absolutely, I mean Dwayne A. Keena, who was

798
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: cranked out more elite defensive backs probably than any other

799
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: coach working in college football right now from his days

800
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: at Arizona. You know that Chris McAllister had all those

801
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: all those Earl Thomas Michael have all those guys in Texas,

802
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: and he puts, you know, this is Paulson Adivo's third year.

803
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: He puts Paulson Adivio right in there with McAllister and

804
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: those other guys. And what's interesting with him is, you

805
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: know he had told that a Keena had told me

806
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: last week he was you know, we moved. You know,

807
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: sometimes there's a guy who is such a lockdown corner

808
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: and we're like, you know, we're gonna give him a

809
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: shot at the nickel to keep him kind of engaged.

810
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: And that's something they did with Paulson this training camp,

811
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: and they said he really really took to it. I mean,

812
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: he's a He's put on about ten pounds from last

813
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: year and they said his body fat his dropped three

814
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: and a half percent, which got some crazy math. I'm

815
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: not sure you or I could be able to pull

816
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: that off, no matter what kind of diet we were on. Uh.

817
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: He made a big play, made a big, big pick

818
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: in the game on Saturday. I think Stanford, it's crazy,

819
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: it's only had one All American defensive back in its

820
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: entire history. That was Tank Williams. I'm pretty sure or

821
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: barring injury, that Paul si Bibo is going to be

822
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: the number in the second one. Guys, John Lynch wasn't

823
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: an All American Bruce. He was not obviously, like you know,

824
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, who had a big splash in the NFL

825
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: was was not at that level as a as a

826
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: college player. I mean, they've had some really good players

827
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: who've come out of there are good pros, but this

828
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: one was this one man. It's funny because he was

829
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people looked at him as a receiver,

830
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: was committed to Notre Dame, but just once he got

831
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: that Stanford offer, jumped at it. And Akia was telling me,

832
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, we've had him as both in

833
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: camp and he liked him. Weren't sure and then he goes,

834
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch him play basketball unto practice, and

835
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: he goes, it wasn't like he was a very good shooter,

836
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: but you're watching his flip as hips and move They're like,

837
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, we gotta this is one. I'm totally

838
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: in on this kid. Well, duynea Keena, like you mentioned,

839
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: is the best in the business. When you get a

840
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: chance to visit with him. I love over the years

841
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: of scouting, gett a chance to talk with him about

842
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: all the different guys that he's coached and and he's

843
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: a darn good evaluator as well as a developer there.

844
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's big stuff there on. Pauls and Adiva

845
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: look forward to watching him the rest of the year. Bruce,

846
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: get back to baseball practice, Buddy. I appreciate your time, man.

847
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: I'll always played to be will talk to you. Well.

848
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: There you go, Black Bruce is always generous with his time,

849
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: even when he's out of the litterle league game, giving

850
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: us some nuggets there about some of these top quarterbacks

851
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: as well as some intriguing defensive players. But Buck, I

852
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: don't know if you're with me or not. I thought

853
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: the star of the weekend wasn't a player. I thought

854
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: it was actually Lincoln Riley. Oh absolutely, What the job

855
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: did Lincoln Riley did and the way that he has

856
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: gotten Jalen hurts up and going, I think is another

857
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: resume building just pass his resume. When you look at

858
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: the game, I think um looking at the game not

859
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: only is a scout, but as a fan in his

860
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: a spectator. You're looking at the game and looking at

861
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst, and you're trying to envision how could Jalen

862
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: Hurst play at the next level? How could he be

863
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: a pro? Is this guy a legitimate NFL prospect? And

864
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: then what Lincoln Riley did is he gave you the

865
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: blueprint for how he potentially could play at the next level.

866
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Use a mix of his legs, his arm, make plays

867
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: and do that. And then you're looking at you Wow, like,

868
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: just think about this guy. In the last three years,

869
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: his had Baker Mayfield number one overall pick, Cala Murray

870
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: number overall pick. We don't know what Jalen Hurst will

871
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: be when it comes to the draft. But the fact

872
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: that you, as an offensive innovator, can take i would say,

873
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: three different style of quarterbacks and allow your system to

874
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: still be successful, to me, that's a huge credit. On

875
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the NFL level. The only guy that I could relate

876
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: it to would be Joe Gibbs. Joe Gibbs went to

877
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with three different quarterbacks, and because he

878
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: was so flexible in his thinking that he was creative

879
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: enough to find ways to put those guys in situations

880
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: where they played to their strengths. Lincoln Raleigh on the

881
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: collegiate level is demonstrating that ability. And I think if

882
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a college coach to come to the league,

883
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: one of the first things that I believe you have

884
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: to have you gotta have adaptability, meaning I can take

885
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: what is already here and I can be like, Okay,

886
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: this is what I have where Here's what I'm gonna

887
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: do with what we have until I can get all

888
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: the pieces that I want and steal willing games. Lincoln

889
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Riley is kind of showing that, yes, he needs some

890
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: more seasoning in my mind when it comes to being

891
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: ready for the pros. But his innovativeness, his creativity, man,

892
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: it kind of sets him apart for some of the

893
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: other guys because it's not just his system, is his

894
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: ability to mold it around what he has. To me

895
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: that kind of sets him apart from others. Great calling

896
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Joe gibbs Man going on the way back machine. I

897
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: forgot about that you have three different quarterbacks and to

898
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: take them to Super Bowls. Incredible And I don't think

899
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: it's talked about very much when you're talking about the

900
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: history of the NFL, but that's a that's the the

901
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: to me, is a compliment you can give to a coach.

902
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: The ultimate compliment is not there's nothing more for us,

903
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: and hey, we do what we do. We do what

904
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: we do. You know, get one out of what do you?

905
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: What do you do well? And let me creatively put

906
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: together a plan that's gonna feature what you do well

907
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: instead of asking you to do something that, hey, you

908
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: don't do well or be you're not comfortable with UM,

909
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: And that to me is sign up a great coach.

910
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: It really is UM because there's so many guys that

911
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: would tell you like, no, no, no, it's my system,

912
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: my system, and elevate you whatever. Like what you would

913
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: like is to have a system that is flexible enough

914
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: that they can adapt to the players. And that's what

915
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley has been able to do. And there are

916
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: several guys in the league who have been able to

917
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: do things like that where they can take a quarterback

918
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: and kind of find a way to position them and

919
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: kind of mask some of their flaws and elevate them.

920
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: But Joe Gibbs is probably the best to ever do it,

921
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: considering he won the three Super Bowls with three different guys.

922
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: But to just kind of see Lincoln Riley do this

923
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma, and now he needs to win the national

924
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: championship to really make that an app comparison. But what

925
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: he's been able to do with that crew and collection

926
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and the talent that they have. But let's

927
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: say this, man, Oklahoma, I don't know who runs their recruiting,

928
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: but man, they get some A level athletes on the perimeter. Man,

929
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: they make the games. They make it look fun. I

930
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: could just see myself as a high school senior looking

931
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: at at Oklahoma play at any skill position, running back, why, receiving,

932
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: being like oh yeah, yeah, I can get down with that.

933
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: I like that, I'm okay with that. I'm watching that,

934
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm going okay if you're any if you're a quarterback, receiver,

935
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: running back, like why why we Oklahoma? And clips and like,

936
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: oh that looks fun, man, Although I say Alabama, Alabama

937
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: looked pretty good too. Now, oh, Alabama absolutely look good.

938
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: But if I'm a quarterback, if I'm a quarterback with

939
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: with aspirations are playing beyond, why wouldn't I keep the

940
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: tires of Oklahoma. If I'm a grad transfer or anything,

941
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I go? Because I've seen Lincoln Ridley producer

942
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: and that and I saw Jalen Hurst like put up

943
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: like half a thousand yards like as a running receiver,

944
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: where we didn't really see them perform to that level

945
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: at Alabama. I am all in, Yeah, I am, I

946
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: am all in on that. All right, let's get to

947
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: some of these other quarterbacks what we saw over the weekend.

948
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: Let's start here first, justin Herbert. Oregon came up a

949
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: little short. They moved the ball uh easily in the

950
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: first half and uh slowed down a little bit. The

951
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: numbers were good, thirty seven or two or forty two yards, Uh,

952
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: one touchdown. No Picks didn't really do anything obviously as

953
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: a runner because the pass rush that was coming at

954
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: him ended up losing a fumble. Uh. They fall twenty

955
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: seven to twenty one. But your takeaways on what you

956
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: saw from Herbert, you know, man like I'm having a

957
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: tough time, like here, here's what happens, and and I'm

958
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: gonna issue this and I know people are like it's

959
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: an overreaction. Here's what happens when we call what I

960
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: call flash scout, where you kind of kiss somebody, you

961
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: catch a glimpse of two you see the size, you

962
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: see the frames. Yeah, you kind of see him do

963
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: some things and you're like, hey man, this guy is

964
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna be the number one overall before we do the study. Um,

965
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: I think with Justin Herbert, some of that has come

966
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: into play, Like the hype hasn't necessarily meant the performance

967
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: in the production. When you see him, he certainly checks

968
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: off all the boxes. He's big, he's athletic, he's smart. Um.

969
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: He teases you with some of the playmaking ability that

970
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: he has. Um by all accounts when you talk to

971
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: people on the program, he's a good dude, good leader,

972
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. However, in these games, you want

973
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: to see him elevate. And I will give him this look.

974
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: He was down five receivers, he didn't have his A

975
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: level guys on the perimeter, and he had them moving.

976
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: But at some point we equated to the pickup basketball game.

977
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: At some point, I want to see Justin Herbert stay

978
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: on the court, stay on the court. And when we

979
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: talked about this with Sam Donald and the like, there's

980
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: some guys guys that when they're playing pick up basketball,

981
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you surround them by, they find

982
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: a way to stay on the court. I need Justin

983
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Herbert to win games and stay on the court. However,

984
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: that is met some games. It means I have to

985
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: run more, I gotta throw more, I gotta make more plays.

986
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: But to me, the epitome of a franchise quarterback is

987
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: a guy that can stay on the pickup court. He

988
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: finds a way to get to win. And it's not

989
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: always pleasing to the eye. No, it's a great way

990
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: to put it. And I don't know if you have

991
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: do you have any counseling training because I'm a my

992
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: counselor here for a second, I don't know if you

993
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: have any formal training book. But just help me with this, okay,

994
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: because uh and you heard me talking about it with Bruce.

995
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Why tell me why? Why does it bother me so much?

996
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: The last play of the game from the thirty something

997
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: yard when you've got a chance to give your team

998
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: a chance to win the game and you throw the

999
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: ball ten yards out of the back of the end zone.

1000
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I know it's one playbuck, but it bothers me to

1001
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: my core because as a quarterback, I think that's just

1002
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: a feel. I mean, it's just a feel that ball

1003
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: is at the goal line, at the front of the

1004
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: goal line or two to three yards deep. You give

1005
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: yourself a chance for for ricochet, but you you have

1006
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: a feel like that to me showed me you have

1007
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: like numbness in your hand to throw that thing ten

1008
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: yards beyond the end zone. Why does it bother me

1009
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: so much? I know he did some incredible things in

1010
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: this game. Because was the taste that was left in

1011
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: my mouth. Because I think it speaks to the awareness.

1012
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I think like we always talked about the important

1013
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: part of the the position, any position, but quarterback in particular,

1014
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: situational awareness, game awareness, kind of understanding what is going

1015
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: on around me. And I know that this is the

1016
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: last player of the game and the only way that

1017
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: my team has a chance to extend the game or

1018
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: when the game is we have to have a stroke

1019
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: of luck that gives us a chance. So the best

1020
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: thing that I can do is put it in a

1021
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: situation where the ball can either be called directly in

1022
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: the end zone. It could be battered around and somehow

1023
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: my guy catches it and falls into the end zone

1024
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: or the light. But there's no chance for our team

1025
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: to win if it goes out the back of the

1026
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: end zone. And so it just kind of speaks to

1027
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: the the awareness or lack thereof that he displayed. And

1028
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: so I'm a little I'm a little concerned. I'm a

1029
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: little concerned by that. I'm concerned that maybe the hype

1030
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of spun out of control two years ago and

1031
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: we need to reel that back in because we kind

1032
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: of put him in that. We put him in that

1033
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: category like, hey, he's gonna be the number one, he's

1034
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the top dudes. And I don't

1035
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: know if, like if from a critical if we took

1036
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: away the name on the jersey and we were just

1037
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: watching tape and he was just in a blank uniform

1038
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: and we didn't know who he is who he was,

1039
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: will we give him the same kind of kudos and

1040
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: accolades and mentions that we've been given him based on

1041
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: his pure performance. So you know when you go to

1042
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: the store and you want to buy something like a

1043
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: computer chair, right, so you're gonna go buy a computer chair?

1044
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: They I I I tend to like like the floor model,

1045
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: it's already put together. I just pick up the chair,

1046
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: I throw it in my car, I take home, I

1047
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: put in my office. I think that I think Herbert, Yeah,

1048
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. So Herbert to me he's a perfectly

1049
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: good office chair. It's just that he's in a box

1050
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: right now. All the parts are in there. They're all

1051
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: in that box. It's not assembled yet. And so to me,

1052
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: with him, it's gonna be interesting to see how he

1053
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: continues to grow and develop this year. But it's gonna

1054
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: be key that he goes someplace. Whoever drafts him has

1055
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: somebody that's a little more handy than you or I

1056
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: that can that can put this chair together, because there's

1057
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: still all the parts but they're not they're not together yet. Yeah,

1058
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's not there. But then

1059
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: can we get it there? Um? When have we seen

1060
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: these things come together? Like? Um, the more we're kind

1061
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: of in this, the more I'm around the scouting thing,

1062
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how much development can occur at the

1063
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: next level, especially at quarterback, like for some of the

1064
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: other positions. Mahomes is the one. The one is the one.

1065
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: But that's with Andy and so you know he he's

1066
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: Andy is unique in terms of his track record for

1067
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: developing quarterbacks. I think the situation in Kansas City was

1068
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: unique in terms of what was around him. I just

1069
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: believe it's a perfect storm for Pat Mahomes with Herbert

1070
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: um and even this, like with Pat Mahomes in comparison

1071
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: to Herbert, I think as wild as Pat Mahomes was

1072
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: as a sandlot player, there were some glimpses of oh wow,

1073
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: like I don't know what to do with this very

1074
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: instinctive Yeah, I don't know if I get the same

1075
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: wild plays with her, but I guess him that's impressive,

1076
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: that's that's nice. But the wild fact it was a

1077
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: little different with Mahomes and comparison to her. But but

1078
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean it is rare. They were able

1079
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: to take a guy that we're trying to develop and

1080
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: get him right at the next level when he's talented

1081
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: like this. Alright, next one, I know it's Duke. I'll

1082
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: start with that to a Toma, Alabama quarterback thirty one

1083
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: for three thirty six, four touchdowns in the air, also

1084
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: had uh you know, a little bit of fifteen yards

1085
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: on the ground, not much there on the ground. They

1086
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 1: smashed Duke three. I went and watched that tape this morning,

1087
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: Buck and um I came away. First of all, he

1088
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: looked lighter, he looked more explosive with his lower body.

1089
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: I even put an Instagram video out there on the

1090
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: a little move the sticks handle there where it's I

1091
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: use the term he's he showed urgency and poise, which

1092
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: is a rare combination of he's just got so much

1093
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: of life and energy and twitch in his lower body.

1094
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: But then he's able to get himself in position, then

1095
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: settle everything down and then throw the ball accurately. And

1096
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: I put out these videos and press trust me. People

1097
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter like, oh, it's a bunch of bubble screens.

1098
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't throw the ball down the field. And I'm

1099
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: sitting here going like, first of all, I saw him

1100
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: squeeze digs in, I saw him throw crossers. I thought

1101
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: I saw him throw from one hash to the other hash.

1102
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here going, is this what this year

1103
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be? Is what it's gonna be? Him completing

1104
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: like thirty one balls and people canna be nitpicking him?

1105
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just nuts. I think this dude is really

1106
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: good man. I think he is outstanding, And I don't

1107
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: understand the nitpicking with this dude. Now. I think he

1108
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: is outstanding. I think he's a terrific prospect um. I

1109
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: think what happened last year, I think people kind of

1110
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: got a little carried away with to uh based on

1111
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: how he performed in the championship game the previous year.

1112
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: The dude was hurt. He was hurt, and and I

1113
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: think with two of um, I think you have to

1114
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're getting. What you're getting is a

1115
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: dude who's a tremendous leader, great character, great i Q.

1116
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: Still is a bit of a gun slinger, and you're

1117
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: always going to kind of harness that nature. He just

1118
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to give up on place. But what

1119
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: you also are getting, and I think you described it perfectly,

1120
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: You're getting someone with urgency and poise, meaning he plays

1121
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: with a right now mentality, but he always seems to

1122
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: be calm and cool, and I think that is the

1123
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: part of his game that are really like. And I

1124
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: know this comparison is going to be out there, and

1125
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: I hate it because like they're they're they're similar in

1126
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: terms of like their demeanor and maybe even their personality.

1127
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: But people are gonna compare him to Russell Wilson, But

1128
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: he has like some of that calm, cool, poise demeanor

1129
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: UM that I think you like. I think the other

1130
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: thing is I think people have the misconception that too

1131
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: is a runner, and I'm gonna tell you he is

1132
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: not like the Russell Wilson runner. What he is is

1133
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: he has athleticism and escapability, but he is not the

1134
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: guy that you're looking to run ten to twelve times

1135
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: and he's gonna pick up seventy to eighty yards. He

1136
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: is athletic. When he needs to make plays outside the pocket,

1137
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: he can, But this is a dude that likes to

1138
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: deal from the pocket, and so the thing that guys

1139
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: have to get away from his. Can I deal with

1140
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: the height issue because I think his hype thing is

1141
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: going to come into play as we get closer to

1142
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: the draft if he comes out this year. Can I

1143
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: get comfortable with my quarterback being shorter than the prototypical

1144
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: dimensions because I do believe that is going to be

1145
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: a fact. And when they do measurement at the combine, well,

1146
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I was writing down who he reminded me of,

1147
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: and I actually saw some glimpses of Sam Donald with

1148
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: just how how quick Sam was able to to get

1149
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: his feet going as well as to get through progressions.

1150
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: Is my quick feet quick mind reminded me of Donald?

1151
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: And then and then there's some Baker Mayfield to him

1152
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: too as well, where there's just so much life. Uh,

1153
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: coming back to that just in his lower body. Mayfield

1154
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: is that same way. I would say, maybe he's like

1155
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield after a nap a little bit, but that's

1156
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: kind know who we're reminding me of a nap. Like

1157
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Please please put it in your report. Love

1158
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: did you imagine be like what? I love it? That's unbelievable.

1159
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: That's that's what I was thinking at It was like,

1160
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, but you know Baker, like, there's gotta be

1161
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: sometime in Baker's day where he's not just like bouncing

1162
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: off the walls. I figured like he just took a

1163
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: nice little Sunday afternoon nap. Uh. And then that's what

1164
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: you get with two Uh a little a little calm

1165
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: the Baker. I love it all right. Uh, let's get

1166
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: to the two more here. We'll roll through these quick.

1167
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: Jordan's love thirty three or forty eight four sixteen yards,

1168
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, three picks really could have had about five

1169
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: or six picks when you watch the tape. But uh

1170
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: utah state um he is uh he is live man,

1171
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: live arm real loose. You'll see him drop his arm

1172
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: angles can make some creative throws. I kind of left this,

1173
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: uh this view on watching this tape this morning, Buck

1174
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: with a little bit of a Drew Lock vibe watching nice.

1175
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: It's funny, you said, Drew Lock. So it's the comparison

1176
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: that I had. Uh, in a way was pat my

1177
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: homes like. But here's what I want people to understand,

1178
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: not the pat My homes that we're seeing the m

1179
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: v P pat My Homes, but pat my homes light

1180
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 1: in terms of the one we saw at Texas Tech,

1181
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: the one that is playing with a lesser cast, a

1182
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: one one that is because he has a lesser casts,

1183
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: he's forcing himself to do more and maybe he pushes

1184
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: the envelope more than he needs to because he doesn't

1185
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: have all the weapons around him however, size, arm, talent, athleticism,

1186
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: he has all that, the gun slinger mentality, all of

1187
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: those things are really really intriguing. And so it'll be

1188
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: interesting to get a collection of offensive coordinators in a

1189
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: room and just kind of pop on the tape and

1190
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: hear what the buzz would be. Oh, I like that, uh,

1191
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: and and kind of figure out which guys would like

1192
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: to take on our project like that that you're like, hey, look, man,

1193
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: he has a lot of good stuff. If I just

1194
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: polish out this a little bit, we may have something

1195
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: versus those like Man. I don't know if he's refined

1196
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: enough to do what we would want him to do

1197
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: from day one. Yeah, he's man. The upside though unlimited,

1198
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: and I think he's a more fluid and a little

1199
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: bit more instinctive than Herbert. Where Herbert sometimes can look

1200
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: a little mechanical on a little robotic, his kids more

1201
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: fluid and more It's funny. I'm glad you brought the

1202
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: Herbert thing up because I was wondering, Man, are we

1203
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: contradicting ourselves? Because the way that we talked about Herbert,

1204
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: and I wonder how it's going to be. I've never

1205
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: really seen these developmental guys kind of paying out. But

1206
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: then with Jordan's love, we kind of gave him love

1207
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: like the possibilities and endless and your mind. What are

1208
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: the differences between the two. It's early, it's only a

1209
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: week or two weeks into the seat. What are the

1210
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: differences between when you look at Herbert on tape and

1211
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: when you look at Jordan Love on tape? Well, I

1212
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: think they're both big, strong guys, big arms. I think

1213
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Love just moved around a little bit more fluid. Herbert's

1214
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: just you know, he's he can run, He's gonna run

1215
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: a decent time and all that, but he's a little

1216
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: or stiff. Um. Just everything is just more there's more

1217
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: elasticity with with Jordan's Love. Just watching him move around,

1218
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: even the way he throws the ball. You'll see him

1219
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: drop his arm, angles and do different things. There's, um,

1220
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: some natural like backyard football, instinctive things that I like

1221
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: about Jordan's Love that that I feel good about. Now

1222
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: he's um, he's not you know, I think Herbert's more

1223
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: polished and further along in that regard. Um, I think

1224
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: Herbert decision making wise, I would give him a little

1225
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: bit of a nod right now. I thought Jordan Love

1226
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: has played a little bit reckless at times. Um. But

1227
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, to me, I would just say, it's just

1228
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: like you're watching basketball players and and he's Jordan's Love

1229
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: is just more silky and more you know. Yeah, he

1230
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: just has a feel moves everything just feel to it. Uh,

1231
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: I say, maybe, So that's that's how I would say

1232
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: the difference. It might be the difference between watching Steph

1233
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: Curry play and Clay Thompson. Like Steph Curry is a

1234
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: little more rhythmic the way he bounces whatever, Clay Thompson

1235
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: is a little more Basically, they both can give you numbers,

1236
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: but they do it in a different way. Yeah, so true.

1237
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: All let's get this last one here real quick and

1238
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: we gotta get roleing. But Jake from from Georgia, what

1239
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: shoot with that running back? I mean I watched that

1240
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: tape buck. I mean the swift was last year man unbelievable,

1241
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: but he didn't have to throw it much. He did

1242
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: not have to throw it much. Fifteen fifty six one

1243
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: touchdown note picks uh, they'd beat Vandy thirty to six.

1244
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: The one point that they might take away with from um.

1245
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: He missed a couple throws. He does not have a

1246
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: huge arm, but what he does is he can absolutely

1247
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: hang in the pocket and deliver the ball under durest

1248
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: his toughness. I put out a couple of plays where

1249
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: he took some shots, and it's great to see a

1250
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in an era where guys are looking at bail

1251
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: and guys are looking to wheel out the back door.

1252
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: His eyes never dropped eyes are down the field, and Uh,

1253
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: he'll take his medicine and deliver the ball. That's funny

1254
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: you talking about taking medicine. I believe toughness is an

1255
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: underrated aspect of playing quarterback. Uh. Your quarterback has to

1256
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: be a tough guy. He has to be willing to

1257
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: hang in and and deal with the punished men in

1258
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: the pressure and the the rest that kind of comes

1259
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: his way. Jake from certainly does all of that. Uh.

1260
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: In terms of his arm talent. Um, He's not an

1261
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: upper echelon guy when it comes to throwing the rock

1262
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: and being able to do it. But I do believe

1263
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: there is something to be said for a guy who

1264
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: is a winner, a guy who has leadership abilion has

1265
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: the intangibles that you look for at the position. Uh.

1266
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: It'll be an intriguing and fascinating discussion as we continue

1267
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: go down the line. Uh. Taking a look at him. Um,

1268
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: and again the running back there, that's worth the price

1269
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: of admission to watch. By the way, I haven't done

1270
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: they have a tight end Number eighty nine, whoever that is,

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Speaker 1: I haven't done him yet. But Dan, that dude blocks

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Speaker 1: his butt off. Clap of the hands for for folks.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because we won't talk about running backs much,

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Speaker 1: but man, I'm really excited. I like some of these

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Speaker 1: running backs in this class. Just had a chance to

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Speaker 1: look at Zack Moss from Utah. He is my kind

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Speaker 1: of running back in terms of physical the way he finishes,

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Speaker 1: a tone setter. Uh. Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin had a

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Speaker 1: solid weekend. Wisconsin just kind of has a way for

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Speaker 1: producing these backs and he is in that mold. I

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Speaker 1: kind of call him like he kind of reminded me

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Speaker 1: a little bit of James White and Rrell Fletcher going

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Speaker 1: all the way back and won going all the way

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Speaker 1: back in Wisconsin lore. It's just amazing to me how

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin just has these guys and maybe it's their uniforms

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Speaker 1: where they don't look flashy or whatever. They just kind

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Speaker 1: of produce. But man, there's some really intriguing players and

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Speaker 1: that stuff. And then Jake from we talked about him,

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Speaker 1: but the guys who he beat out, Jacob Eastm and

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, they both had both to it. They put

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Speaker 1: really good. Wow. I just can't imagine being Georgia having

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Speaker 1: these guys on campus whoa tough, tough, tough problem, tough problem.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to think of what would be the uh,

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Speaker 1: what would be the equivalent of that? So you had, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think you beat out but all those guys, uh

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Speaker 1: was there? It was Pat my Homes, Pat my Home

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Speaker 1: in Davis Webb Um he said, he said, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he sent in Mayfield out and then um way

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Speaker 1: back and well there's a reason for that. It's Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, not get it now. And

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Speaker 1: then back in the day, I think you dub head?

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Speaker 1: Was it? Hobert and Mark Brunel both playing at the

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: same time, had all those guys or whatever. It just

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Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. But yeah, those those backups, jacobism and

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01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: Justin Fields killed it when they had their chance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's insane. Man. Um anyways, fun uh fun to watch

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Speaker 1: college football this week. Any other guys you want to

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Speaker 1: hit at before we open. I'm not, I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say anything, but um, you know, and oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not. You know, And I know I

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Speaker 1: saw I apologize. I saw the stuff everybody, everybody I did.

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Speaker 1: I saw it. It was nice, it was I apologized

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01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot of joke I did not. I did not

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Speaker 1: know the tall heels. We're gonna go get the game.

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Speaker 1: Coach Coach Brown is bad. We took our shots. Coach

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Speaker 1: Brown is bad. I was. I was happy for Coach Brown.

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01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: He's he is ignoraned so big influence on your life.

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: It's not even so much that everything happens when you

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: have a quarterback and that young quarterback man they somehow

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01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: got him. He's the lead eleven quarterback. He plays well,

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Speaker 1: he had great poise and we'll see if people catch

1322
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: up to that offense. But for one, for one weekend,

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Speaker 1: it was it was fun dusting off my otario stuff

1324
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Speaker 1: and have my chess poked out. By the way, Coach

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Speaker 1: Brown is gonna be on the pod here coming up

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Speaker 1: before we're gonna get Coach Brown on the pot. It's

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Speaker 1: confirmed for the app state North Carolina getting coach drink

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Speaker 1: withs on because we're heading there. I need you guys

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Speaker 1: to be in the top twenty five because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to walk out of that stadium. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't want. I don't know if we shot at load,

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Speaker 1: we we shot our wire. Gonna get Miami this week. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're allowed to say that be uh,

1334
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: kind of coming after you. So I'm hoping that. I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that. Uh, I'm hoping you guys are undefeated in

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Speaker 1: the top twenty five. We'll see what happens. Yeah, it'll

1337
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Speaker 1: be exciting. Oh hey, anyways, that's h that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us today and the bill nicely done as

1339
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Speaker 1: as a producer today taking over the range is one

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Speaker 1: of those Miami guys. You want those Miami dudes, you

1341
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: want them Hurricane guys. You were Reggie, Wayne and all that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know all of them. And you know, Michael Irvan

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01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: out here, playmaker whatever. Don't come up in here wearing

1344
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: it turnover chain or at three oh five or whatever stuff.

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: Today were many Diaz has has you guys all swags out?

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, I don't don't start that. You and former

1347
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: kids everybody for this game? Which game the Miami Vial

1348
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: versus Bucky You guys playing this week? Right? Yeah? What's

1349
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: the little We don't use that word. We don't use

1350
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: that word. No, no, no, no, the contest contest, contest?

1351
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: What is what is what is your look? What's the

1352
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: little storks? What's the little bird name? What's what's the bird?

1353
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: Ibis yeah, yeah, you might have the word that may

1354
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: have come into in the studio Tomi year. All right,

1355
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Speaker 1: we'll get this all ironed out before the next episode,

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01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: I promise you. Anyways, fun episode that I thanks to

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Speaker 1: Bruce Felman for joining us. Um, we're gonna have more

1358
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: content coming your way. We are going to be back

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: on Wednesday with a new fresh pot and then once

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: we get through this week, we are coming your way

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Speaker 1: three days a week with the Move the Sticks Podcast.

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Speaker 1: So do appreciate you guys listening. Thanks for for leaving

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Speaker 1: us a review and a rating there on Apple Podcast.

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01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,160
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01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,480
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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,040
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Speaker 1: com slash mts video. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

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01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:37,120
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