Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast drops forty on the rag.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis that come to you from
Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: and Chris Westling. What is up, boys? Hey? Bday? Week
Speaker 1: seventeen flagship show. Yes, we have reached the end of
Speaker 1: the yellow Brick Road, two hundred and fifty six games
Speaker 1: and we've covered them all on the Round the NFL Cast,
Speaker 1: or I should say we will have by the end
Speaker 1: of today's show. And Mark, I know you're in a
Speaker 1: good mood today because, for the first time in the
Speaker 1: history of this program, the Week seventeen slate will not
Speaker 1: be the end of your favorite football team season. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that. But I just want to
Speaker 1: let you know that I like the smile on your
Speaker 1: face and I could tell the joy rages within. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's mostly just relief, um, compared to what the other
Speaker 1: narrative would be had they lost today. But I am happy,
Speaker 1: and um, you know we can get into it. It's you.
Speaker 1: It's coming out of your pores. I can see it.
Speaker 1: It's a strange. It's a strange sensation. It's it's very surreal. Um.
Speaker 1: I know Mark very well, and I've gotten to know
Speaker 1: him as a sports fan very well. He externalizes anger
Speaker 1: about the Browns, but internalizes joy and there's so much
Speaker 1: within him right now, West that you could see it
Speaker 1: coming out of his pores and his skin. Look, he's flush.
Speaker 1: You do don't know what to do. It's he's got
Speaker 1: a also a reputation to a p and he can't
Speaker 1: just go gaga right now after all these after all
Speaker 1: these years. You know, he's gotta there's a certain brand
Speaker 1: that we have here to protect absolutely, and well, guys
Speaker 1: have figured it out. You figured it out. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get to it the playoff schedule and everything at the
Speaker 1: back end of the show. But I I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say right now, I don't I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with the Browns Week one or playoff matchup either. A
Speaker 1: lot to talk about this week, but first let's go
Speaker 1: through all the games. We're gonna go by conference here
Speaker 1: UH this week, and first we're gonna get uh to
Speaker 1: the a f C, go through everything there how that
Speaker 1: conference is set up for January football, and then hit
Speaker 1: the NFC capped with the Sunday night game between the
Speaker 1: Eagles and Washington football team. But yes, let's start in
Speaker 1: an FC, and yes, let's start in Cleveland. Mayfield takes
Speaker 1: the snap. He's gonna run it to the rights. Mayfield
Speaker 1: turns the corner. Hey got the first down on the
Speaker 1: right side. He slides inside the forty yard line, making
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick tags about first down, Browns at the thirty nine
Speaker 1: yard line of Pittsburgh and the clock is running. We're
Speaker 1: fifty two seconds left. Took all what's up? First down
Speaker 1: and at Cherry I'm starting to feeling right now. Jim
Speaker 1: Donovan with the call w k r K that Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns are back in the postseason, qualifying for the Dance
Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand two. They snuff
Speaker 1: out a late Pittsburgh rally to beat the Steelers two.
Speaker 1: The Browns eleven and five. They're going to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, They're going to the playoffs, and you'll be
Speaker 1: watching them in your garage or your living room. I
Speaker 1: don't know they're going, Mark, they're going. It's um it's
Speaker 1: sinking in. It's still sinking in. I these Browns games, Um,
Speaker 1: I thought, Nick Shook, who will be on later put
Speaker 1: it well that they just they don't make it easy
Speaker 1: on their fans or themselves. And you know, this was
Speaker 1: another week where they went into a the biggest game
Speaker 1: they've had in you know, since their return. I'd say, um,
Speaker 1: with one practice and a lot of remaining Corona issues,
Speaker 1: but no excuses with the Steelers sitting all their stars
Speaker 1: and um, you know, part of me thought the Browns
Speaker 1: kind of no matter what, they couldn't really come out
Speaker 1: of here winning the narrative because if you win, you
Speaker 1: beat under undermanned Steelers team. If you lose, well, we
Speaker 1: know what the conversation piece would be there. I thought
Speaker 1: they just did. They did, They did whatever it took.
Speaker 1: Um from their star players who were on the field.
Speaker 1: They got just enough, They got just enough from Nick Chubb. Um,
Speaker 1: they had a hundred ninety two yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: But was a little bit different about this game was
Speaker 1: that a bunch of it came from Baker Mayfield. He
Speaker 1: is not a scrambler and that's not really a big
Speaker 1: part of their playbook. But um, I thought he took
Speaker 1: off and move the chains on a couple of key
Speaker 1: runs that will ask when we heard the right there,
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry made a couple of key catches. Um, and
Speaker 1: in this defense, which at this point is built of um,
Speaker 1: you know, plaster scene and small pieces of wood. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, got got the interception from from Uh you know,
Speaker 1: the did just enough. I'm kind of at a loss
Speaker 1: for words because I think that if you look at
Speaker 1: what the Steelers did, you could ask yourself, um, you know,
Speaker 1: from a brass tax angle, which team comes out of
Speaker 1: this more encouraged because Pittsburgh's B team nearly be Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And I think Cleveland's defense has become, especially without Denzel Award, um,
Speaker 1: a raging weakness. And they're gonna have to do a
Speaker 1: lot on offense and a lot more on offense next
Speaker 1: week to hang with the Steelers team that gets their
Speaker 1: roster back. But I give Cleveland credit for um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been a chaotic fourteen days for them, and there
Speaker 1: are a reflection of Kevin Stefanski. Uh. They they're not
Speaker 1: a panic team. Um. You know, I think good teams
Speaker 1: don't panic in general. And then Cleveland, unlike years past,
Speaker 1: UM have a bit of a different demeanor to them. Um,
Speaker 1: it's Olivier Vernon's hurt. You will see if they get
Speaker 1: if they get Denzel Award back. If they don't, UM,
Speaker 1: I will see I the lother. The one other thing
Speaker 1: I'll say real quick is that this is this the
Speaker 1: Browns being here. UM. When I think of the Browns,
Speaker 1: I think of I think of you three and Erica first,
Speaker 1: UM because of a really rough, uh eight year period
Speaker 1: to get here. I think of all the people that
Speaker 1: UM tweeted today, all the listeners from our show. It
Speaker 1: means a lot. Um. But I but as to West's point,
Speaker 1: I'm not, like, you know, one of these fans that
Speaker 1: just has blind optimism. I'm very concerned about next week.
Speaker 1: The Steelers are a very good team. Well, I still
Speaker 1: think the Browns should a be happy. You know that
Speaker 1: they got into the playoffs. Be okay, Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: the Steelers B team. Everyone's got a B team right now,
Speaker 1: especially the Browns. I mean, they were missing six players.
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't like the star players, but they
Speaker 1: had six guys on the COVID nineteen lest So I
Speaker 1: hate when teams playing back to back weeks. It doesn't
Speaker 1: happen too often. These teams will be playing again next week,
Speaker 1: but it's really not the same game. Not only do
Speaker 1: you have. You know, the Steelers stars back, but but
Speaker 1: Cleveland is hopefully getting some reserves and compared to the
Speaker 1: other potential matchups that they could be going on the
Speaker 1: road to to be doing the a f C like Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Like I'll take it if I'm a Browns fan. The
Speaker 1: way the way that this thing uh ended up for
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and and you gotta feel like, okay, at least,
Speaker 1: like let's not talk about bad luck and like everything
Speaker 1: is just luck. Like they had some nice luck today.
Speaker 1: They kind of missed a call on a Mason Rudolph interception,
Speaker 1: you know, the two point play at the end. It
Speaker 1: comes down to a two point play that could have
Speaker 1: maybe even called a penalty there on the Browns. You
Speaker 1: got to play Mason Rudolph. So it's like they've earned
Speaker 1: eleven wins. Eleven wins gotta get you into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear anything about backing in like
Speaker 1: that's that's a playoff team. But just the way today unfolded,
Speaker 1: you got a bit of luck, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a team that they can certainly compete and maybe beat
Speaker 1: next week in Pittsburgh. Yeah, they you know, the the
Speaker 1: Steelers looked like they were dead in this game. After
Speaker 1: Rudolph through an interception, the Browns score shortly there after.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh thirteen straight points after that and then go for
Speaker 1: the two point conversion. Uh. In between, there was the
Speaker 1: the play call on third and three for Cleveland where
Speaker 1: they dropped back to pass when they're in field goal
Speaker 1: range are very close to it. Baker takes a sack
Speaker 1: and then an incompletion that then set up the second
Speaker 1: touchdown of the quarter for Pittsburgh. It wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: the most impressive impressive performance by the Browns, but ultimately
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because they got the win and they're
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs and and like you said, and
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about this all week. Uh, Pittsburgh, you
Speaker 1: know they didn't have t J. Watt in addition to
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. They're missing, Uh, they're two best players, are
Speaker 1: two most important players right there. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: very different matchup. But also I don't think Cleveland's gonna
Speaker 1: be intimidated by going into Hines Field for that game.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that this is this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a very close game and what's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great weekend of football in the a f C. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this just nearly caused um something of a
Speaker 1: breakup on our private text thread because and I know,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you guys were um rooting for
Speaker 1: good fortunes for for me personally, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we were calling the game in the third quarter and stuff,
Speaker 1: and everyone's saying everything's gonna be fine, and that was man,
Speaker 1: I know, I know enough not to do stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what dance was was attempting for their
Speaker 1: I just told you was over in the third quarter
Speaker 1: after the Routolph pick, And uh, I was right because
Speaker 1: it was over because you were right. I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't totally enjoy it at the time. And I said,
Speaker 1: unsubscribed from this threat after being on it for you know,
Speaker 1: six plus years. But um, yes, you were right in
Speaker 1: the end, and I'm glad that you that you were alright.
Speaker 1: So Cleveland playing January football for the first time since
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. How about that the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: a team that had that very little luck in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years, they closed out their schedule with not
Speaker 1: a lot of movement to be made in the playoff picture.
Speaker 1: But they did have the chance to break some hearts.
Speaker 1: Head break some hearts. They did. End of the air,
Speaker 1: a pretty good booking punt. Mackenzie back pedaling, feels it
Speaker 1: at the sixteen yard line, dodges two men. Starts up
Speaker 1: the middle. Now to the right side at the thirty.
Speaker 1: At the forty, isa McKenzie on the run at midfield
Speaker 1: in Miami territory. Gotta beat the punter and he gets
Speaker 1: around him. He's at the twenty. He's at the fifteen.
Speaker 1: Five touchdown touchdown, touchdown, Buffalo ISAA. McKenzie goes eighty four
Speaker 1: yards for the touchdown. He's got three touchdowns today. Good
Speaker 1: night Miami. Everybody having fun connected to the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: including John Murphy of w g R with the call.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen threw three touchdown passes, and yes, Isaiah McKenzie
Speaker 1: scored three times in the first half, including that eighty
Speaker 1: four yard punt returned. It was over at that point.
Speaker 1: The Bills pour it on against the Dolphins fifty six
Speaker 1: to twenty six at Orchard Park. With the wind, the
Speaker 1: Bills clinched that number two seed, um completing an incredible
Speaker 1: year where they match a single season record for wins
Speaker 1: and won their first division title in twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen plays a half, throws three touchdowns because eighteen
Speaker 1: and Matt Barkley comes in. He even does some things
Speaker 1: in the second half, and that is the second most
Speaker 1: points scored in team history by the Bills. And Greg
Speaker 1: on the Dolphins side of things, just a complete collapse. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they had listen a lot of these teams are facing
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen challenges. Ryan Fitzpatrick uh in another heartbreaking step
Speaker 1: back to his career, h comes down with COVID. He's
Speaker 1: sitting at home watching this game and to a and
Speaker 1: the offense very conservative again early on everything short of
Speaker 1: the sticks. But it wasn't just to him. This was
Speaker 1: a total meltdown in all three phases by the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: a team that you didn't expect that from giving what
Speaker 1: we had seen the first sixteen weeks. I didn't. I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know. I give the Bills so much credit. I
Speaker 1: guess they still only played Josh Allen for a half,
Speaker 1: and and they could win by this much. I'm are
Speaker 1: so used to teams resting when they really don't need
Speaker 1: to win, and they had a feeling that the Steelers. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, they knew the Steelers were resting, and they
Speaker 1: said they were going all out for the two seeds.
Speaker 1: They didn't really, I mean they sat trade Avious White
Speaker 1: and Jerry Hughes, but they just put it on him
Speaker 1: because they're their football team playing good football. That's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're not gonna stop in Miami. As
Speaker 1: as frustrating as it is to end this way and
Speaker 1: feel like you got left out in the cold, and
Speaker 1: it's stacked a f C. They were a defensive team,
Speaker 1: and if your defense getting lit up by like this,
Speaker 1: it's not like they can feel like they got shorted
Speaker 1: that it was the Fitzpatrick injury or was you know,
Speaker 1: playing the Bills this week, or you know, they're getting
Speaker 1: unlucky not to make it at ten and six. If
Speaker 1: you're giving up this many points to the best of
Speaker 1: the best, and that's the Bills. I mean, they weren't
Speaker 1: going anywhere uh fast that they had a great season,
Speaker 1: but this is kind of a brutal way to end it. Although,
Speaker 1: and and it raises questions because they're they have the
Speaker 1: number three overall draft pick. Uh courtesy of Billy O'Brien.
Speaker 1: Laremy Tunsil in the Houston Texans. We sat there in September.
Speaker 1: This offense comes out like a house of fire. Bill's
Speaker 1: offense and we say, yeah, but you know, it's what
Speaker 1: a team is doing in December that matters. This team
Speaker 1: gets better every week. You take Cool Beasley way, everybody's disappointed,
Speaker 1: and then Smoke Brown comes back. Gabriel Davis goes over
Speaker 1: a hundred. They find some guy named Antonio Williams stasted
Speaker 1: under practice squad. I had to look. I had to
Speaker 1: dig deeper to find info on this guy than anybody
Speaker 1: ever in the history of this podcast. Who is Antonio Williams.
Speaker 1: This Bill's offense just seems to get better every week.
Speaker 1: The defense is getting better every week. It wasn't spice
Speaker 1: Rack guy Jonathan Williams on the Bills. I mean spice Rack.
Speaker 1: Spice Rack can't catch a break. I mean, it turns
Speaker 1: out Antonio is the best random Williams running back ever
Speaker 1: to show up. Come on spice Rack. You'd have to
Speaker 1: think that had Fitzpatrick been available, we would have maybe
Speaker 1: seen a repeat of the you know, lineup switch. I
Speaker 1: mean this, I get that it's not all on toa
Speaker 1: but um kind of tracking this first half from Miami.
Speaker 1: They the offense seems to just sputter and sort of
Speaker 1: fall apart when he's in there, and like like twenty
Speaker 1: eight yards or something on their first four drives, and
Speaker 1: they were averaging about two yards per play. Um, that
Speaker 1: was where they are at when the game was spinning
Speaker 1: out of control. And absolutely this would have been h
Speaker 1: a relief performance. However you want to put this floor
Speaker 1: strategy for Fitzpatrick, but again it wouldn't have mattered because, um,
Speaker 1: what Miami did well all season, UH was you know,
Speaker 1: play uh, making the most of their players, getting contributions
Speaker 1: from all phases of the team defense, which led the
Speaker 1: way special teams doing special things. And yet a special
Speaker 1: team's breakdown on a punt return when they when they
Speaker 1: could LEAs survive it and you had the defense could
Speaker 1: not get a stop. I believe Buffalo scored four straight
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the second quarter. Um, and the offense, which
Speaker 1: it all was always the liability with this team, UH
Speaker 1: was certainly didn't have it in them to get into
Speaker 1: a shootout with Buffalo. So um, while you could look
Speaker 1: at it as like man, it's a bummer, fits didn't
Speaker 1: get to end his playoff drout and didn't get in
Speaker 1: this game. The way it played out and the level
Speaker 1: of the Bills are at even when they're only playing
Speaker 1: their stars are half the game, I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1: And the Dolphins, of course didn't get the luck they
Speaker 1: needed from the other games, so they go home. Uh.
Speaker 1: Just a tough, a tough way to end what was
Speaker 1: still a successful season for Miami, but a tough way
Speaker 1: to close it all right, let's move on now. The
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens also had put themselves in position to clinch
Speaker 1: a playoff spot with a four game winning streak. They
Speaker 1: would lock themselves in with a w on Sunday. They
Speaker 1: got the Bengals, and I think you know how this
Speaker 1: is gonna turn out. Topic we'll carry across the thirty
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Speaker 1: five will touchdub jak dutters, Jerry Sandowski, w B A L. Yes.
Speaker 1: The Ravens finish up a dominant closed to their season
Speaker 1: with a thirty eight three beating of the Bengals. That's
Speaker 1: five straight wins for Baltimore and it clinches their third
Speaker 1: playoff birth and as many seasons with Lamar Jackson behind
Speaker 1: center mark the Ravens captain ferocious clothes with a historic
Speaker 1: and brushing performance. I mean, this is when I watched
Speaker 1: this team. We just talked about the Bills. If I
Speaker 1: look at the Ravens and say, and I get that
Speaker 1: their schedule has been light down the stretch, who can
Speaker 1: handle what they're doing right now during this five game
Speaker 1: win streak, which um this podcast predicted Dan Hans is
Speaker 1: some well over a month ago. Uh, they are averaging
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty seven point four rushing yards per game.
Speaker 1: And it's so I love how they're doing it because
Speaker 1: today they run more for the fourth team since nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty to have more than four yards in a game.
Speaker 1: It's incredible, and it's and you know, and you can
Speaker 1: look at Tennessee and what what someone like Derrick Henry did. Um,
Speaker 1: they've shifted who gets carries in this backfield. But the
Speaker 1: way they have it right now, it's j K. Dobbins
Speaker 1: thirteen carries a hundred and sixty yards, Gus Edwards twelve
Speaker 1: carries sixty yards, Lamar Jackson eleven. They are perfectly happy
Speaker 1: to be a three headed beast. Mark Ingram not a
Speaker 1: big role but he had nine rushes today. But in general,
Speaker 1: there's sort of a a pick your poison backfield, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be someone different that blows up next week.
Speaker 1: And you're getting Lamar Jackson now, um rushing for yardage
Speaker 1: per game that is higher than his m v P
Speaker 1: level a year ago. Um, he threw a couple of
Speaker 1: beautiful darts as well. Uh, someone like Mark Andrews is
Speaker 1: back involved in these games and there and they look
Speaker 1: to me completely unstoppable. I mean they really do. How
Speaker 1: many weeks in a row have we told us story
Speaker 1: where at halftime they had two d and fifty eight
Speaker 1: yards the Bengals had sixty two. And that's a Bengals
Speaker 1: issue to some degree. But the Bengals offense had looked
Speaker 1: pretty good the last couple of weeks, certainly a little
Speaker 1: bit a little bit different than in in weeks past.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens just they take the life out of you.
Speaker 1: And I get that, UM. Time of possession is not
Speaker 1: like a total hallmark stat. But when the Ravens have
Speaker 1: the ball for twenty two minutes in the first half,
Speaker 1: it is with them because it's the way they do it.
Speaker 1: Even on their first drive, which was a field goal drive.
Speaker 1: They took seven minutes off the clock, So someone's have
Speaker 1: to find a way to slow this running game. Um.
Speaker 1: And when they were a bit milk toast in the
Speaker 1: middle of the year, they didn't have this power. They
Speaker 1: seem agitated to me. Um, they're gonna get Tennessee and
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I cannot wait to see that game. I
Speaker 1: think they are fueled off of a sense of revenge
Speaker 1: right now. I just see it in them in a
Speaker 1: way that I don't some other teams. And they are
Speaker 1: total power. And you know, this is something that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, UM would look at and say,
Speaker 1: sports teams have a bunch of cliches. We don't buy
Speaker 1: into it, and that's fine, but athletes a lot of
Speaker 1: times do. And John Harbaugh has told this team to
Speaker 1: roll roll off of faith and guts, two things that
Speaker 1: you can't see. Um. Yes, that sounds cliche, but they
Speaker 1: are operating like a team that has seen something no
Speaker 1: one else can. And I would be very scared to
Speaker 1: deal with them a week. Come on, Greggy, it's time
Speaker 1: to buy in on your The Ravens a team you
Speaker 1: fell in love with. You jumped off the band wang
Speaker 1: and at the wrong time. I mean, you got the
Speaker 1: Titans next weekend. Put the question, and I've got it.
Speaker 1: I got it from you, and I got it from
Speaker 1: some sports talk guy too, is like, is this Ravens
Speaker 1: team more dangerous and better than last year's It's like, well, no,
Speaker 1: because they're missing those players. They haven't beaten the great
Speaker 1: teams you know yet and uh, that team, like if
Speaker 1: we know now that they blew it in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but they were one of the greatest regular season teams
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. So it's like, no,
Speaker 1: they're not more dangerous than that. But you're right, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: There are a five seed. They led the NFL and
Speaker 1: point differential entering this game before going up thirty eight
Speaker 1: to three on the Bengals. And I do love the
Speaker 1: way it sets up in the a f C because
Speaker 1: the Titans are not only the team that broke them
Speaker 1: and broke their hearts last year, they're the ones that
Speaker 1: did it this year. That game that the Ravens gave
Speaker 1: away was their low point and they had no business
Speaker 1: losing that game to the Titans, who just sort of
Speaker 1: took it from them at the end and started their downfall.
Speaker 1: And now they get to go and make up for
Speaker 1: like the two tough, like biggest teams out there. On offense,
Speaker 1: you should expect a lot of points. I mean, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, if the Seeds hold, then
Speaker 1: they get to go potentially or the winner that game
Speaker 1: potentially goes to Kansas City the next week. And that's delicious.
Speaker 1: To sign me up. Let's do it. What do you
Speaker 1: think about the Ravens right now compared to where they
Speaker 1: were entering the playoffs a year ago? I think of
Speaker 1: how wrong I was that that I thought this team.
Speaker 1: I thought they were broken. Like Greg said, I thought
Speaker 1: the Titans broke that. You the way you deal with
Speaker 1: a bully is to punch him in the face, and
Speaker 1: the Titans are the only team willing to punch them
Speaker 1: in the face. They do it, they come away with
Speaker 1: it twice. They come away with it well done twice.
Speaker 1: And I thought this offensive line losing Ronnie Stanley, who
Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl left tackle, and then now you've
Speaker 1: got Zeus Brown kicking out too to left tackle. That
Speaker 1: guy should be an All Pro. To keep the offensive
Speaker 1: line together and to keep the running game the number
Speaker 1: one running game in the league. After switching positions. Supposed
Speaker 1: to be the slowest lineman in the NFL, now he's
Speaker 1: playing left tackle and they're killing it. I was so
Speaker 1: wrong about this team. You know. The one thing though,
Speaker 1: West Like it was Lamar Jackson who even said, teams
Speaker 1: have figured us out. Teams looked at the Tennessee game
Speaker 1: and they've they've were not We're like six or seven
Speaker 1: weeks removed from a lot of chaos happening with that team.
Speaker 1: Marki's Hollywood Brown, say what's going on here? Why can't
Speaker 1: anyone find me? And I think they just sure they were.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like they've been through a lot,
Speaker 1: They've reshaped themselves. And the one thing that I do
Speaker 1: think is different from last year's playoff team. Remember was
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and back then Mark Ingram, the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: the ground game, who both were hurt going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They played, but they were not themselves and that was
Speaker 1: that was part of the issue with Baltimore. They were
Speaker 1: not at high power and right now they are and
Speaker 1: they have you know, J. K. Dobbins there this year,
Speaker 1: and he's really turned into a player here. He broke
Speaker 1: the Ravens rookie touchdown record, Patrick Queen on the defense.
Speaker 1: It's a different team. Uh. They want to have a
Speaker 1: better result than they've had in recent playoff games. I
Speaker 1: I just I like a lot what I'm seeing from them,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people um agree. All right,
Speaker 1: So the Ravens keep rolling. They are the number five seed. Uh,
Speaker 1: they will play the Titans. The Titans had a chance
Speaker 1: to win the division the a f C South on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Let's see if they could do it. Hack thirty seven
Speaker 1: yards to win it, Snap, said Sloman's kick us up.
Speaker 1: His kick hits the upright, he goes through. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Thank shot for Sloman in the a f C South
Speaker 1: champions reside in the six one five Mike Keith of
Speaker 1: another great call that I think that was like a
Speaker 1: West like Bob Yucker in Major League when the announcer
Speaker 1: is so excited that he runs away from the microphone
Speaker 1: to celebrate, and it's like, Mike, come back from Dave McGinnis,
Speaker 1: come back. You gotta call the game. Yes, always trust
Speaker 1: Sam Sloman I was a a caller, robo caller, or
Speaker 1: a cold caller for Sloman Shield for two weeks in
Speaker 1: the late ninety nineties and so I don't get that
Speaker 1: out there no matter what. Trust Sam Sloman, the villain
Speaker 1: kickers thirty eight yard attempt playing off the right, upright
Speaker 1: sputtered over the crossbars, time expired, the deciding points in
Speaker 1: the Titans forty one thirty eight win over the Texans,
Speaker 1: clinching the a f C south Um Ryan Tannehill, through
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass, ran for two more that gave him
Speaker 1: an even forty scores on the season. Think about that
Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry, he did it rushing for two and
Speaker 1: fifty yards to become the eighth player in NFL history
Speaker 1: to amass two thousand yards in a season. And uh,
Speaker 1: it was so weird because that's a that's an incredible game,
Speaker 1: two d and fifty yards. But the Houston defense is
Speaker 1: so ridiculous and and so non competitive, and we've seen
Speaker 1: it because Derrick Henry's previous two games against the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans defense he also had over two hundred yards. But
Speaker 1: in this game, needing the tree or whatever it was
Speaker 1: to get to two thousand, it was kind of like
Speaker 1: in the bag. Even by halftime he wasn't He still
Speaker 1: was like a hundred and fifty yards away, but it
Speaker 1: was like no, he's gonna get this, and then it
Speaker 1: just became waight is he's not gonna catch Dickerson because
Speaker 1: he's done that his entire career, these last three years,
Speaker 1: amazing Hall of Fame years where you know his numbers
Speaker 1: are good but not great. Oh then all up seventy
Speaker 1: seven yards down the right sideline and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you could make up a lot of ground have become
Speaker 1: the all time rusher. He didn't get that, but he
Speaker 1: got two thousand, and the Titans win the a f
Speaker 1: C South, even though Chris Wessling they're a hard team
Speaker 1: to trust because I can't I continue. I tweeted about
Speaker 1: this because I struggle wrapped my head around it. I
Speaker 1: know it's a different world now in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: the numbers are a little screwy, especially when you compare
Speaker 1: it to old errors. But here's a team that has
Speaker 1: a two thousand yard rusher and a quarterback in Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill who had thirty three touchdown passes and seven rushing
Speaker 1: scores for forty and yet I see them as one
Speaker 1: of the weaker uh A f C uh contenders quote
Speaker 1: unquote because the defense is so bad to have all
Speaker 1: that on offense, and still I feel like the highly
Speaker 1: vulnerable in round one. That's unusual, so weird to picture
Speaker 1: the Titans in that way, where offensively just flush with talent,
Speaker 1: you win with superstars and a J. Brown. That play
Speaker 1: he made down in the middle for fifty yards. What
Speaker 1: an awesome play. And then he just makes plays every week. Uh,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis falls fifteen yards side of a thousand and
Speaker 1: what he people who watched him every week. No, he
Speaker 1: had his best year by far. John who Smith one
Speaker 1: of the better run after catch tight ends in the league.
Speaker 1: They are flushed with talent on one side of the
Speaker 1: ball and then the other side of the ball, saying
Speaker 1: every week they cannot rush the passer, so they can't
Speaker 1: stop anyone. It's like next level how they can't stop
Speaker 1: anyone though. I mean, if Brandon Cooks doesn't drop a
Speaker 1: first down throw that from the show on Watson with
Speaker 1: about thirty six seconds left, you know either would have
Speaker 1: had a first down and been closer in field goal range,
Speaker 1: or it would have set up second down to the
Speaker 1: clock would run. This thing would have either gone overtime
Speaker 1: or the Texans would have won regulation. I had no
Speaker 1: faith that the Titans were gonna be able to force
Speaker 1: a stop there. They needed a little luck. They made
Speaker 1: a couple of good plays after that to force force
Speaker 1: the field goal. But the crazy thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: the the Titans got the ball back, I believe with
Speaker 1: nineteen seconds of eighteen seconds left, and I thought in
Speaker 1: one time out and I thought like, oh, that's probably
Speaker 1: enough time. That's probably that's probably enough time for Ryan Tannell.
Speaker 1: I figured it would take two plays to get into
Speaker 1: field goal range, not not one. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: probably enough time to get a kickoff here, because the
Speaker 1: Titans are that good and the Texans are that bad,
Speaker 1: and uh it came together. What what an awesome game
Speaker 1: the way that I was down on Week seventeen going
Speaker 1: into it, But I have to say the way that
Speaker 1: the late games were all like back and forth, like
Speaker 1: you didn't the Colts could have been anywhere from the
Speaker 1: four were seed out of the playoffs with like eight
Speaker 1: minutes left. It worked out pretty good. They gave us
Speaker 1: some good late Week seventeen drama. So thank you Texans.
Speaker 1: And I mean, it is an odd thing from an
Speaker 1: employment angle to be heavily tracking seven games at the
Speaker 1: same time. It may be a few more than I
Speaker 1: need on a weekly basis. But it was You're right, Gregg,
Speaker 1: it was thrilling. And I'm just watching the Mike Rabel's
Speaker 1: expressions underneath the mask, but you can still sort of get,
Speaker 1: you know, read on the eyes um watching his defense
Speaker 1: just get literally fried. But but the floor for the
Speaker 1: offense is so high that I don't I kind of
Speaker 1: have more belief than doubting them. They're in and they're
Speaker 1: in every game at least because of that. I'm with
Speaker 1: you Dan that it's hard to like see them surviving
Speaker 1: all the way, but but you also figure like they're
Speaker 1: they're in every game. One one quick thing I saw
Speaker 1: after the game was verybel giving a big shout out
Speaker 1: um to his owner who's from Houston, who ripped the
Speaker 1: team away from Houston. It's kind of an underrated art
Speaker 1: model situation. So the first comment he has is given
Speaker 1: his credit to Amy Strunk Adams, who's you know, whose
Speaker 1: dad took the team from Houston. How about that they
Speaker 1: go to Houston, they win the division over him to
Speaker 1: end their season, and they stick it in their nose
Speaker 1: like are we celebrating this or not? I don't like it,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like an underrated thing that like
Speaker 1: they're just allowed to dance on the team's grave that
Speaker 1: they stole away, and you know, to finish the way
Speaker 1: the Texans did, which is what four and twelve they
Speaker 1: get five or the four four four and twelve And
Speaker 1: what comes out of a season like that is a
Speaker 1: bedrock draft pick. Hopefully you don't even have that because,
Speaker 1: as we said, the Miami Dolphins have the number three
Speaker 1: overall pick because of the Bill O'Brien trade to get
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzill. Uh So just an all around, uh really
Speaker 1: bad season. Uh for Houston and uh and for Tennessee
Speaker 1: maybe West. Maybe this is because you look at the
Speaker 1: rest of the a f C and you know, even
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense, which we've sung the praises up all
Speaker 1: year and rightfully so, they've had some moments of laps.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's gonna be a wild type of playoff where
Speaker 1: the team with the most explosive superstar talent on offense
Speaker 1: just makes a run. And you know, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: a team that can match anyone and shootout. But I
Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't be too hard on the Titans, And
Speaker 1: I was a little bit earlier because the defense is
Speaker 1: that bad, but the offense might be that good to
Speaker 1: shock some people. Yeah, who wouldn't like a Banansa playoff? Right?
Speaker 1: Just to scoring Banansa just take off every game Bills, Chiefs, Titans,
Speaker 1: Ravens like there there's a lot of forty burgers in there.
Speaker 1: That was the most obvious forty one game ever. There
Speaker 1: was no doubt that Deshaun Watson was gonna go nuts
Speaker 1: one more time, and no doubt the Tennessee Titans defense
Speaker 1: would stink. And you knew Derrick Henry was gonna go
Speaker 1: absolutely mad. Uh So, a fun game to watch, even
Speaker 1: if it was I guess in a way a little
Speaker 1: bit predictable. One more thing I gotta get because we
Speaker 1: just did the announcer power rankings. Lest I wish you
Speaker 1: were on that show. Um, but and you know, some
Speaker 1: maybe shots were taken at the a certain team, Gregg
Speaker 1: Gumbel and Rich Gannett. I don't think they were high
Speaker 1: up in either list. For Greg and Mark. Maybe gannon
Speaker 1: did a little bit better. I think part of it
Speaker 1: every judging in his teams. But Derrick Hennery, Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: runs for two thousand yards, and I mean it is
Speaker 1: beyond an afterthought with these guys. This is what it
Speaker 1: sounds like when Derrick Hennry goes over two thousand, second
Speaker 1: and five. This is Henry Henry. He has enough for
Speaker 1: the first down at midfield. One thing about Tennessee, they
Speaker 1: won't panic. They played to a certain style offensively. That's
Speaker 1: now he's now over two thousand, just the eighth player
Speaker 1: in NFL history to do that. Congratulations to Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: That is a that is a season full of work.
Speaker 1: That's that's not not easy. Three seventy two carries to
Speaker 1: get it done. He's just a beast. A season full
Speaker 1: of work. I think they I think they nailed it.
Speaker 1: The mood, the tone, the moment, like a season full
Speaker 1: of sentences, like an exhibition game, is what it sounded like.
Speaker 1: And and and since I'm getting down on somebody, let
Speaker 1: me pull back. Going back to the Browns game and
Speaker 1: Kevin harland They showed Jarvis Landry on the sideline flossing
Speaker 1: for some reason, which is like an insane person would
Speaker 1: floss in the middle of the football game. Kevin Harlan
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere with this gem for the ages,
Speaker 1: and there's teal hygiene. There's something thing to take note,
Speaker 1: kits out there and there's never a bad place to flush.
Speaker 1: He sounds wait a minute, so wait, so Stephen Diggs
Speaker 1: was also flossing today? Who what? Wait? Who is that
Speaker 1: it was? I believe it was Stephen. I am sorry, Mark,
Speaker 1: I apologize. I just you know, in the sake of
Speaker 1: that he's and that moment is like, why what does
Speaker 1: Kevin Harland remind me of? He's like a he does
Speaker 1: like voiceovers for Ovaltine in ven. He's the total package.
Speaker 1: Enough of this funny business, all right? Talked about the Titans.
Speaker 1: The Colts entered this game, entered this week on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in in the playoff picture. Uh nearly won
Speaker 1: the damn division and they're going to the dance. They
Speaker 1: have the Jaguars in Week seventeen. Rivers for all the
Speaker 1: hear hash hands off to Jonathan Taylor, Chal dirty, He's
Speaker 1: gonna go touchdown, ch Ath Taylor. This is the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and writing into paper from forty five yards out?
Speaker 1: Touch down? Hid? Why chot Athan Taylor have a day
Speaker 1: over two hundred rushing yard? Nice call? Matt Taylor? W
Speaker 1: F and I forgot about j T T Remember JTT
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, Thomas all about j F T Jonathan and
Speaker 1: Taylor running back Capa Tori close to his rookie season
Speaker 1: with two hundred and fifty three yards, including the game
Speaker 1: winning forty five yards score in fourteen win over the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: The Colts flinched the seventh seed. They'll face the Bills
Speaker 1: next weekend. Greg Taylor's rise has been a game changer.
Speaker 1: I can't remember a player improving this much within one season.
Speaker 1: He was one of the biggest bus in the first half,
Speaker 1: and I think one of the best running backs in
Speaker 1: the league down the stretch. I mean he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a first round Fantasy pick next year, I would imagine. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I think remember a month ago when I asked you,
Speaker 1: starting now, whose career would you rather have, Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: or James Robinson. Yeah, now I'm taking Taylor without a doubt.
Speaker 1: What did I say that? Did I get it right
Speaker 1: or wrong? Then he said, you gotta go with Robinson.
Speaker 1: See that bad job. You gotta look into the future.
Speaker 1: This guy, I mean he yeah, even he changed. I
Speaker 1: mean Robinson was out for this game. Who knows what
Speaker 1: would happen? Then, Uh, it was fitting that Taylor did
Speaker 1: it because he's really what separates them right now from
Speaker 1: a hugely disappointing end to the season. What like what
Speaker 1: a the closier day for the Colts. They get the
Speaker 1: help they need early, you know, they find out the
Speaker 1: Dolphins lose and that they're winning in they get up
Speaker 1: twenty and nothing. Okay, we're gonna sail to this thing.
Speaker 1: Then the Texans start blowing their game and they're starting
Speaker 1: to think we can win the division. But right as
Speaker 1: that's happening, Mike Glennon starts hitting third and fourteen, third
Speaker 1: and eights, third and nine, and the Jaguars score a
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns to cut it from twenty to fourteen,
Speaker 1: and the Colts offense goes to sleep, just like it
Speaker 1: did a week ago sixth straight possessions without a single
Speaker 1: point against the Jacksonville Jaguars in a must win situation
Speaker 1: that included two missfield goals by Blanket Ship who's had
Speaker 1: a good year. Um, but it was fitting that Taylor
Speaker 1: was the guy who kind of put them on their
Speaker 1: back with that run, and that the Forrest Buckner and
Speaker 1: Comico Terrey, who have you know, both been good this year,
Speaker 1: but Bucklinger's obviously carry them had two sacks and Terre
Speaker 1: with a huge sack kind of saved them. The defense
Speaker 1: stood up at a certain point when it really felt like, Wow,
Speaker 1: the Colts are gonna gag this thing away? Is this
Speaker 1: how Philip Rivers is? Career ends? And the defense and
Speaker 1: the running game ultimately didn't let it happen. Thank God,
Speaker 1: I'm at least I'm happy. And Darius Leonard to um.
Speaker 1: I mean, when he makes an impact, he does not
Speaker 1: do it without flash. And you know, there were reports
Speaker 1: before this game that Philip Rivers basically has said unless
Speaker 1: he's brought back to play for the Colts, he's going
Speaker 1: to hang up the cleats. And so we get one
Speaker 1: more week of Philip Rivers. That could have been the end.
Speaker 1: And you're right, Um, they didn't have the scores in
Speaker 1: their stadiums, so they didn't know what was going on
Speaker 1: with Tennessee. But they made this far too interesting. And
Speaker 1: when I look at the a f C playoff field,
Speaker 1: I'd have to put the Cults um as a team
Speaker 1: that I just struggled to believe in uh to the
Speaker 1: level of some of these other teams. But they find
Speaker 1: a way to win these games ugly and if you're
Speaker 1: gonna get that kind of rushing performance. Who knows they
Speaker 1: have the Bills. If they were playing the Steelers, you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, or even the Titans are they're familiar with.
Speaker 1: But but the Bills, that's a tough job. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got the Chiefs obviously, you have the Bills, you
Speaker 1: have the Ravens, and you have the Steelers. Even though
Speaker 1: I know that they stumbled down the stretch. They started
Speaker 1: the season eleven straight wins. That's a twelve win team.
Speaker 1: I think the Colts, uh, you know, they're they're very good.
Speaker 1: Are they? Are they great? West? Do they have that
Speaker 1: next year which you're not gonna need to hit to
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl? No, I think we've We've been
Speaker 1: talking about it all year. They're they're just shy of
Speaker 1: being great because they don't have their full compliment of receivers.
Speaker 1: They never had Paris Campbell healthy, they never had all
Speaker 1: their young guys healthy. At the same time, Philip Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers needs Jacoby Brissette in the red zone to have
Speaker 1: a complete quarterback because he's too limited in the red zone.
Speaker 1: They're just shy of of being a full team. Well,
Speaker 1: we and we they we also haven't mentioned since we've
Speaker 1: last tape they've lost Anthony Costanzo. They're great left tackle
Speaker 1: for the season. He's not coming back. That wasn't their
Speaker 1: problem today. Rivers was really not bothered um. But their
Speaker 1: passing game hasn't developed. I don't think it's injuries either.
Speaker 1: You know, compared to most teams, they're they're relatively healthy,
Speaker 1: and they had a stretch where the passing game looked better.
Speaker 1: But when Rivers is going six point one yards protempt
Speaker 1: against the jag he had a bad interception in the
Speaker 1: second half, could have had a couple. You never know,
Speaker 1: Maybe he comes up with one great last playoff performance.
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be shocked if the Colts did bring
Speaker 1: him back. I mean, I don't know, just knowing their history,
Speaker 1: are they sure they're gonna be able to do better
Speaker 1: than Philip Rivers? Maybe not. So it might not be
Speaker 1: the end for him, but many they avoided what would
Speaker 1: have been a regrettable gag job to to end the
Speaker 1: season having back to back games like that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, and it is time. It's the time
Speaker 1: of the show. It's tag team time. Too, handsome ball
Speaker 1: gentlemen on the show but not for long, because Nick
Speaker 1: Shook joins us, and Chris Westling says goodbye West. As always,
Speaker 1: your presence lifts the show to a much higher plane,
Speaker 1: and we have no them but love and respect for
Speaker 1: your abilities and you giving us the time today. Any
Speaker 1: final words, Uh, my voice is done, Shook, take it
Speaker 1: from here. You wanna you want to stick me with
Speaker 1: anything else? Dune I said a month ago, West, before
Speaker 1: you go. No, Actually I asked the whole podcast that question.
Speaker 1: You were the only one who answered, Okay. See the
Speaker 1: rest of us are like, I'm not saying anything. There
Speaker 1: you go, Chris Wessling, the King, go rest up, my friend, Chooke,
Speaker 1: How are you, buddy? I'm fantastic. I've spent the last
Speaker 1: what is this five hours or so um in between
Speaker 1: watching multiple games once and all the audio from the broadcast.
Speaker 1: Hearing people outside my apartment screaming with joy is a
Speaker 1: celebration in downtown Cleveland. You think they won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl here? So in a way, you know, for a
Speaker 1: team that has had as uh much bad fortune as
Speaker 1: the Browns have since they rejoined the league, I get that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully people are doing it the smart now. Many people
Speaker 1: are in that stadium look like thousand or something or
Speaker 1: twelve thousand, sound like the letting more people in there.
Speaker 1: It was twelve. It was. I saw some guy tweet
Speaker 1: at Joe Thomas. He was like, he's like, come on out.
Speaker 1: You know the bars are open only for three more hours.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Joe, please don't go to the bars. I
Speaker 1: will try a blind eye this one time. To you
Speaker 1: go do whatever you need to do. Cleveland right outside. Alright, Chookie,
Speaker 1: So congratulations to you on the Browns. You are doing
Speaker 1: yeoman's work this week, because we're gonna take kind of
Speaker 1: a brief pause from the playoff implication level games in
Speaker 1: the a f C before we get to the a
Speaker 1: f C to fill in the rest of the margins
Speaker 1: of week seventeen. Two more games, three more games, excuse
Speaker 1: me hitting the a f C. Let's start with what
Speaker 1: went down in Denver two point a town car looks
Speaker 1: left fire, got it? Waller, Jeff Card, Jeff pod Raids,
Speaker 1: thirty two, Proco's thirty one Suckers, Vitru Lock Braby, listen,
Speaker 1: bred Musburger. That that man, he's not a young man anymore.
Speaker 1: To have that level of vigor for a meaningless week,
Speaker 1: seventeen tilt. That was a nice higher by the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. H Musburger k r l V Yes. Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs plunged in from one yard out to get the
Speaker 1: Raiders close, and Derek car and Darren Waller converted on
Speaker 1: that two point conversion in the final second, securing a
Speaker 1: win over the Broncos. Mark thirty points in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter alone by these two teams. Sounds like a fun,
Speaker 1: dumb game to close out disappointing season for the West Roers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fun and dumb would be accurate. Um, they really want
Speaker 1: to thank the Raiders for going for the two point
Speaker 1: conversion there versus taking this into overtime, which you could
Speaker 1: put on for kind of gone on for another twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes or so. Note no human needed that, Um,
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders. Um, this was kind of every
Speaker 1: Raiders game. Like Jerry Judy of the b Goes We said,
Speaker 1: you know, we saw what happened against the Chargers last week,
Speaker 1: drop prone, horrible performance. You think that would be the
Speaker 1: note that you go into the off season with. It's
Speaker 1: the Raiders defense, so they get right. Um, Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: at a ninety two yard touchdown that you know, looked
Speaker 1: like it could have been the game winner, and then
Speaker 1: Oakland came back. Oakland at one point had three turnovers
Speaker 1: and five snaps. Um, you get a little bit of
Speaker 1: good from Derek Carr, you get enough from Derek Carr. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to read, um, what's going on with
Speaker 1: some of these coaches. But Gruden, underneath the mask looked
Speaker 1: absolutely steamed at Derek Carr at points in this game.
Speaker 1: But the issues are on defense. They they did enough
Speaker 1: on offense to get this thing done. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: two teams with a ton of questions. I don't know
Speaker 1: if either starting quarterback is the starting quarterback next year. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I go, I don't know. I think this
Speaker 1: is we're putting Derek car in the same class as
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. I know I'm not putting we put a
Speaker 1: lot of heat on Derek Carr in this podcast, but
Speaker 1: now we're getting crazy. I'm not putting them in the
Speaker 1: same class. I just think that like there's something and
Speaker 1: this is this is just in the water. I think
Speaker 1: it's been that way the whole time. I don't get
Speaker 1: the sense that Gruden is thinking we're good at quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think that that you know today kind of advertised.
Speaker 1: Why you know, Derek Carr is um a quality starter?
Speaker 1: But is he gonna get you over the hump? And
Speaker 1: at what point do they look at somewhere else? How
Speaker 1: about this? How about from this perspective, maybe you also
Speaker 1: like him a lot more than I do, And there's
Speaker 1: no he's fine. I guess I defend him because I
Speaker 1: think he's a little better than he gets credit for it.
Speaker 1: But he is not great by any stretch. You could
Speaker 1: probably do better than him if you hit on a
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft, or maybe even one of these
Speaker 1: veterans that shake free. But if I'm if I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the Raiders, if I'm Mike Mayok and John Gruden
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how do I fix this team? I'm
Speaker 1: going to the defensive side of the ball before I
Speaker 1: go replace the quarterback. That's just well, well, if they
Speaker 1: do that, they would they would have done something. He's
Speaker 1: been there three years, so I mean they certainly have
Speaker 1: to keep trying. All I could think watching the end
Speaker 1: of this game is Andy Reid. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: he wasn't you know, free to be watching on TV,
Speaker 1: but if he was, he should just be thinking, Man,
Speaker 1: this is a nice division of being these coaches just bungling.
Speaker 1: He's like like they were, you know, Vic Fangio and Grew.
Speaker 1: This is how Belichick had it. Wow, what a setup, right,
Speaker 1: Like he basically was looking to be like, are you
Speaker 1: guys doing an Anthony Lynn impression on purpose? Like are
Speaker 1: you trying to lose this game? With the time management?
Speaker 1: It was. It was crazy going back and forth that
Speaker 1: I was losing my mind. Well, and Fangio took a
Speaker 1: time out at one point that allowed the Raiders to
Speaker 1: completely climb by. I was thinking, you know, and there's
Speaker 1: all all all these games had these moments like Greg's
Speaker 1: head would explode. You were watching it. Took his headset off.
Speaker 1: With twelve seconds left and potentially like three more snaps
Speaker 1: for the Broncho, he just decided, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: not even gonna I'm not even gonna be involved with
Speaker 1: the strategic decisions for the rest of this game. I'm
Speaker 1: just like done with this season. Which you know, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's not car and it's not the defense.
Speaker 1: It could be the head coach, but I know you
Speaker 1: love him as well. Done, so I will get off
Speaker 1: my No, that's not true either, I don't love John Gruden.
Speaker 1: I don't know personality, but there's no sense debating whether
Speaker 1: John Gruden should be the right head coach because he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the head coach because he's just ten year
Speaker 1: contract and he's i think entering just finishing year three.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make it right, but you are correct that
Speaker 1: that is the case. Um, all right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: A hand off to Michelle coming to the near side,
Speaker 1: clips of factor Marus. He's gonna throw it to the
Speaker 1: right for Cam Newton makes me catch at the seventh
Speaker 1: inside the five into the end zone, touchdown, Patriots. I'm
Speaker 1: a second TV toss budget, Kobe Meyers. Let's throw all
Speaker 1: days right there, Bob Sochi, of course, Scott Zolak goes
Speaker 1: out on a high note. W b Z. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: threw three touchdown passes and caught another, and the Patriots
Speaker 1: rallied to beat the Jets, who win snapped a three
Speaker 1: game losing streak for the Pats. Um and that's ten
Speaker 1: straight wins over the Jets. So everybody else gets healthy
Speaker 1: against the Pats, not the Jets. Shook. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: the end of the road though for the Patriots, and
Speaker 1: that's a new reality. Yeah, it's a new reality, and
Speaker 1: it's an uncertain reality. And this is gonna be the
Speaker 1: second straight offseason which they go into it not really
Speaker 1: knowing what their situation is going to be a quarterback.
Speaker 1: The difference is is last year it was well Tom
Speaker 1: Brady either comes back or we figure something out. Now
Speaker 1: it's do we want Cam Newton back or do we
Speaker 1: look somewhere else? Because I think we've learned enough from
Speaker 1: what they've done with jetson Stidham or not done with
Speaker 1: him this year to really tell us what we think
Speaker 1: or what they think about him. And Kim goes out
Speaker 1: on a strong note at least for this season and
Speaker 1: maybe gives you some consideration for bringing back means sparkling
Speaker 1: passer rating two or forty two yards, three touchdowns, all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Um, but again it is the Jets,
Speaker 1: and unlike last week, the Jets couldn't hold onto their
Speaker 1: early lead that that stretched into the second half. But
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no better way I think they
Speaker 1: come back, uh in a game than by scoring and
Speaker 1: then getting an interception after you threw a touchdown past
Speaker 1: to your quarterback, and then scoring two more touchdowns and
Speaker 1: putting a game that you were trailing in against a
Speaker 1: bad team away and going to the off season at
Speaker 1: seven and nine and not really knowing what the hell
Speaker 1: of your team is going to be next year other
Speaker 1: than the guys are gonna get back who opted out?
Speaker 1: Uh this year. So it's a weird reality. It's death
Speaker 1: not one that we associate with that flying Elvis logo
Speaker 1: on the side of the helmets. Well, Belichick was really
Speaker 1: annoyed at after the game about what he thought was
Speaker 1: a report from Adam Schefter that they were, you know,
Speaker 1: that they were moving on from Kim Newton. And it
Speaker 1: got to the point where I think Mike Reese he
Speaker 1: certainly clarified on Twitter. I think he might have done
Speaker 1: it on the call actually say no, Adam Schefter didn't
Speaker 1: really report. That was like one of those games a
Speaker 1: telephone that Schefter was just kind of in a conversation
Speaker 1: thinking that, you know, saying he doesn't think the Patriots
Speaker 1: are gonna keep him. Then it gets passed along as
Speaker 1: some report when it wasn't a report, and like Belichick
Speaker 1: was spitting fire, He's like, well, why don't you go
Speaker 1: ask your anonymous sources, you know who our quarterback is
Speaker 1: next year. Jake trying to stand up for Camp. He
Speaker 1: has appreciated Cam all year. Um, I don't think that
Speaker 1: was phony, Like Cam won the Good Guy You award
Speaker 1: from the media. They're like, you know, they all they
Speaker 1: all liked the experience. But I can't imagine Cam is
Speaker 1: gonna be back. We have the whole off season. This
Speaker 1: game doesn't matter. Seven and nine. That just felt like
Speaker 1: it felt like this was a seven and nine Patriots
Speaker 1: team all along. And that's like right where they ended up.
Speaker 1: And that's where they are seven and nine, and Belichick
Speaker 1: will decide who his quarterback is. We don't know who
Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback is in, but it won't be Adam
Speaker 1: Gates that has anything to do with that. Decisions came
Speaker 1: down a few minutes ago. UH, the New York Let's
Speaker 1: get some missive music here, Ricky the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: UH informed Adam Gates that his time with the franchise
Speaker 1: is over. Here's what Christopher Johnson, chairman and CEO, said
Speaker 1: in a statement. Our strong finish last year was encouraging,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately we did not sustain that positive momentum or
Speaker 1: see the progress we expected this season to our fans.
Speaker 1: It is obvious we have not been good enough. We
Speaker 1: are committed to building a strong organization on and off
Speaker 1: the field and will continue to provide the necessary resources
Speaker 1: to field a team that you can be proud of.
Speaker 1: It has been a long time since I've been proud
Speaker 1: of a Jets football team. It's been ten years. In fact,
Speaker 1: uh it you can stop that now. In fact, it's
Speaker 1: no longer his miss if it's not mine. In fact,
Speaker 1: now that the Browns are in the playoffs and the
Speaker 1: Bucks are in the playoffs, no team in the NFL
Speaker 1: is on a longer playoff drought than the Jets. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they have to do something big this offseason. We
Speaker 1: have to see how it's all gonna play out. It starts, though,
Speaker 1: and I sincerely believe this, not with the number two
Speaker 1: overall pick, and that got a little bit more interesting
Speaker 1: with what Justin Fields did in the college football playoff
Speaker 1: over the weekend, but with the head coach. They need
Speaker 1: to hit on this head coach and get an adult
Speaker 1: in the building, a CEO type dude who knows how
Speaker 1: to run an organization and can work alongside Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: and Joe Douglas a GM needs to be the guy
Speaker 1: that picks who the head coaches. They need to be
Speaker 1: on the same page and and they want to keep
Speaker 1: the structure in place that where the ownership is the
Speaker 1: you know, the GM and the coach report to the owner. Fine,
Speaker 1: but give Joe Douglas the power to choose who this
Speaker 1: guy is. That's how you get this thing off on
Speaker 1: the right foot. It It can go in any direction,
Speaker 1: um in terms of who they go with, whether it's
Speaker 1: an Eric b Enemy type or Arthur Smith or someone
Speaker 1: from college. I don't I don't really care. I don't
Speaker 1: have a strong feeling on who it is. I just
Speaker 1: needed to be someone uh that again can handle the
Speaker 1: job and everything that comes with it. Because that was
Speaker 1: Adam Gates among his Amongst his many failures was his
Speaker 1: inability to handle the job in the locker room with players,
Speaker 1: with the media, and even starting with his opening press conference,
Speaker 1: which goes down in the annals of New York Sports.
Speaker 1: UH for how it's funny. It was too people. They
Speaker 1: need to be better. Enough is enough? Get this right?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I I trust ownership to just
Speaker 1: be letting Darodagoas make the decisions. You shouldn't nobody should
Speaker 1: trust Jets ownership after what's happened these last this last decade.
Speaker 1: But I'm hoping maybe they've learned some lessons from the
Speaker 1: Gates Higher, which obviously was a disaster h from start
Speaker 1: to finish. Another way to look at it, all right,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've we've we usually like do the
Speaker 1: thing where we kind of like read an obituary and
Speaker 1: go over like you know what the coaching tender. I
Speaker 1: feel like we've we've done that four times at least
Speaker 1: with Gaze, Like we've written his obituary like six times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is probably the least surprising firing that happened immediately
Speaker 1: after a game in the last five years in NFL history. Maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's keep rolling the Chargers and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and meaningless listen to the grittiness of Cleveland. Neighbor sounds
Speaker 1: like the fantasy corners. Something that's like a fire truck. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't help them, like right across the street from
Speaker 1: like the Justice Center for downtown. So you're gonna be
Speaker 1: up late tonight. I predict the people of mean, they're
Speaker 1: out in the streets. They're just going wild. You can
Speaker 1: are you looking and what are you doing? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not near a window. I mean this room
Speaker 1: is surrounded by windows, but I would have to stand
Speaker 1: up to walk away from the camera to look at this.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're out there. All right. Let's let's keep rolling.
Speaker 1: Let's head to arrow him. Herbert play action again downfield
Speaker 1: with the heat left sideline. Mike Williams car touchdown Chargers Yes,
Speaker 1: Matt money Smith of course, with the call for the
Speaker 1: Chargers radio network. Justin, Herbert cappt the glorious rookie season
Speaker 1: with three touchdown passes, leading the Chargers to over the
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes less Chiefs shook the Bolts end the season
Speaker 1: on a four game winning streak. And you know that,
Speaker 1: combined with the brilliance of Herbert's debut season, makes you
Speaker 1: think that Anthony Lynn is gonna be safe at the end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think if they didn't have quarterback figured
Speaker 1: out at this point, it might be a little less stable.
Speaker 1: And you kind of have to discount the win today.
Speaker 1: I know the Chiefs are obviously the number one c
Speaker 1: the FC, but not having Patrick Mallins is a big
Speaker 1: deal um and affects a game like that. But I
Speaker 1: think the fact that they have quarterback figured out answers
Speaker 1: a really big question for them, and they have a
Speaker 1: core roster wise, and you look at their starting lineup
Speaker 1: on on both sides of the ball, I think really
Speaker 1: defense will be more than offensively that you could say, well,
Speaker 1: this this is a team that you compete. But that's
Speaker 1: also been the story this team for the last two years.
Speaker 1: We've talked so much about how they lost nine of
Speaker 1: eleven games last year by one possession. They lose close
Speaker 1: games again this year because they're still kind of out
Speaker 1: of sorts. We just discussed that, you know, in relation
Speaker 1: to the Broncos and the Raiders. So I think it
Speaker 1: does give him, you know, a little bit of a
Speaker 1: boost and sticking around. And I have a weird feeling
Speaker 1: that the Chargers aren't going to be about making a
Speaker 1: change because of this type of result and because of
Speaker 1: Herbert's play as a rookie. But I'm not really convinced.
Speaker 1: I mean, I needed I needed to be proven to me, uh,
Speaker 1: in a close game if he does keep his job
Speaker 1: next year, that they finally turned a corner, because at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm I'm, uh, you know, this is kind
Speaker 1: of a negative take on this, but I'm kind of
Speaker 1: tired of just making excuses, are thinking, well, but if
Speaker 1: but it feels like what Brown's fancy used to do
Speaker 1: with their team. Well, they won, they almost beat this team,
Speaker 1: and you win this game, and you win this game,
Speaker 1: the situation turns out a lot different. That's not enough
Speaker 1: for me. But they do have quarterback feared out, which
Speaker 1: is you know, that's a really positive sign. I mean
Speaker 1: Jake Blazer this morning when in the other direction and
Speaker 1: reported that Lynn was not expected to be safe. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean tb D. But I don't think it's totally
Speaker 1: um decided. And you know, to his too, in his argument,
Speaker 1: they've missed a hundred and nine starts by players that
Speaker 1: should have been starters for them this year, which is
Speaker 1: among the highest in the NFL. And Um, to your
Speaker 1: you're right, Nick, it feels like every year we're talking
Speaker 1: about Chargers injuries. But UM, it just to me, it's
Speaker 1: a case studying how different organizations proceed, because I don't know,
Speaker 1: I want to be convinced that if they keep Lynn
Speaker 1: it's because they truly think that Lynn is the best
Speaker 1: coach for the job, versus we're an organization that doesn't
Speaker 1: want to pay um fired coaches while hiring another one.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Detroit, where the Vikings
Speaker 1: and Lines finished out their slate back to past nine
Speaker 1: seconds ago. Throws left, it's caught by Baby bounces off
Speaker 1: two Lions, ten five touchdown, a forty yard touchdown for
Speaker 1: Chad bb who like a pinball in a pinball mach
Speaker 1: Jean bounced off a couple of bumpers wearing Honolulu blue
Speaker 1: for the second touchdown of his career. And for Kirk
Speaker 1: he has three, which means he's thrown the second most
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a season in the history of Vikings football.
Speaker 1: And we have taken the lead. Paul Allen k f
Speaker 1: A N with the call a meaningless Week seventeen game
Speaker 1: against the Detroit defense, it's Kirk Cousins domination time. Baby
Speaker 1: Cousins through three touchdown passes, ran for another score, pass
Speaker 1: for four oh five total in the thirty thirty seven win.
Speaker 1: Minnesota been for seven and nine, Detroit five and eleven shook.
Speaker 1: What are the positives to take out of the season
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. Number one positive that you can't ignore
Speaker 1: is the fact that you found your replacement for Stefon
Speaker 1: Diggs in a bona fide number one receiver in Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: That's the greatest trade perhaps in the history of the
Speaker 1: NFL in terms of how it worked out for both sides.
Speaker 1: He's been he's been awesome this year. Um, he's he's
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome because what makes him good is going
Speaker 1: to continue. It's not the fact that he's necessary early
Speaker 1: a burner. He's a fast guy, but he's a complete
Speaker 1: route runner even at his age, and um, it's only
Speaker 1: going to continue to get better. Kirk Cousins has made
Speaker 1: the most I think, or at least at least established
Speaker 1: a relationship with him on the field where you think
Speaker 1: that you know they can reach new heights as the
Speaker 1: seasons go on. UH And of course you have Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook in the offensive side of the ball. Now the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball is where they need to
Speaker 1: get better. This is a season of change for them.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of different personnel, a lot of
Speaker 1: different moving parts coming in and out of UH Minnesota,
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans that they relied on who left.
Speaker 1: They had to turn to young guys at corner, Cam
Speaker 1: Dancer being one, Jeff Gladney being another. So, UM, I
Speaker 1: know they kept their safeties intact. But I guess we
Speaker 1: shouldn't be entirely surprised by the fact that they weren't
Speaker 1: this good. They need to get off to a better start,
Speaker 1: and maybe we're talking about a better team, you know,
Speaker 1: going forward, and maybe that happens. I I saw some
Speaker 1: comments from the Lions, you know, beat guys. It really
Speaker 1: feels like Matthew Stafford's you know, in his pressers have
Speaker 1: almost been like saying goodbye to Detroit. He's like opening
Speaker 1: up more than he ever is. He's sort of putting
Speaker 1: his whole ten you're there into context. You're seeing his
Speaker 1: media buddies like Dan Orlovsky make the case aggressively that
Speaker 1: he needs to be out. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: this is a mistake. I think Stafford wants out. Um
Speaker 1: there is hoping that that he gets out, and we
Speaker 1: don't need to go over it now because I want
Speaker 1: to get to the good games. But I think it's coming.
Speaker 1: I think it's coming. One little lion snugget. There are
Speaker 1: reports that there reports the Detroit. When you're trying to
Speaker 1: move the show along, it just like speeds up, and
Speaker 1: there are reports that Detroit is gonna chase Seahawks general
Speaker 1: manager John Schneider. So ian Ian got that one. That
Speaker 1: would be interesting. That would be a heck of a coup,
Speaker 1: I think for them. And yeah, it's been all it's
Speaker 1: been all over the breadcrumbs on this. I agree with you, Greg,
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford the fact that he played in that game today,
Speaker 1: and I know he's a tough dude, but with all
Speaker 1: the injuries, it felt like a guy that wanted to
Speaker 1: go out with one more game with Detroit. We'll see
Speaker 1: on the field what happened, shook, You've come, you survived.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the building urn is gonna survive.
Speaker 1: What's happening in Cleveland right now. Um, I almost worry
Speaker 1: about the city if they win a playoff game. But
Speaker 1: for now, it appears that you're safe. And we thank
Speaker 1: you for giving us excellent work as the six Men
Speaker 1: of the Year. That's why Greg agreed that you should
Speaker 1: be named the Pipe. No, we did not. Now I called.
Speaker 1: I said, let's just go sixth Van or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but pipe is not is not good. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny about that? Danny, We've talked about this.
Speaker 1: My profile picture on Slack for the last four years
Speaker 1: has been a picture of j. R. Smith walking downtown
Speaker 1: next to my little sister during the cast parade, so
Speaker 1: it fits. It fits. But about worrying about the state
Speaker 1: of the city if the Browns a playoff game, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna have a home playoff games, so we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about that, at least not this year,
Speaker 1: all right, I said, not the guy you are next year, sister.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you know she was. She was like fifteen,
Speaker 1: all right. Hopefully, Well, we hope and we just you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't and you know, you better treat Nick shock
Speaker 1: sister well in general, because Nick Shook will be coming
Speaker 1: after you if you ever do her dirty. See it's
Speaker 1: all out there, Nick. There he goes. The pipe is off.
Speaker 1: Let's now head over to the NFC playoff relevant games,
Speaker 1: starting right at the top, where the number one seed
Speaker 1: was up for grabs, at least until the Packers were
Speaker 1: done with the Bears. Rogers looking over the defense and
Speaker 1: third down, third and about four snapped to Rogers blitz
Speaker 1: on Rogers lofts it deep down the middle. Got a
Speaker 1: man out there, it's mvs and he is John ten
Speaker 1: five end zone touchdown, Green Bay Packers seventy two yards.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that was Wayne Lara by w TMJ.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I believe finished with forty seven touchdowns. Uh
Speaker 1: this year, he'd have probably fifty nine if MBS caught
Speaker 1: most of the wide open bombs throwing to throw his
Speaker 1: way this year. He dropped another one today, but he
Speaker 1: did catch that one. That's seventy two yards strike from
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Uh. That put the Packers in control. They
Speaker 1: cruised to a Yes, they clinched the number one seed
Speaker 1: in the NFC. They will have an open round next week.
Speaker 1: They will not play. They have the bye, and then
Speaker 1: they will host uh, the lowest seed remaining in the
Speaker 1: divisional round. And if they get out of that round, yes,
Speaker 1: they will host the NFC title game. The Packers have
Speaker 1: gone thirteen and three now and each of Matt will
Speaker 1: Floor's first two seasons on the sideline pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers enters the playoffs boys playing at a
Speaker 1: level that approaches the highest of highs h in his
Speaker 1: legendary career. Yeah, I think getting a game without David
Speaker 1: Baktieri under their belts, especially you know, matched up against
Speaker 1: Cleil mac in this you know, solid pass rush, uh
Speaker 1: and doing what they needed to do. I think it
Speaker 1: would be good for their confidence. I mean it's Rick
Speaker 1: Wagner and Billy Turner, two guys who are you know,
Speaker 1: pretty disappointing elsewhere, like free agent pickups, and it's really
Speaker 1: all about the system, and it's Rodgers making them look
Speaker 1: better because their offensive line is great and they're gonna
Speaker 1: miss Box tr But to be able to put up
Speaker 1: thirty five and ultimately pull away from the Bears says
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think the NFC is still very balanced.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're huge favorites here, but I know
Speaker 1: I think they'll be rooting on the Bears next week.
Speaker 1: I can hope for this rematch, you know, because and
Speaker 1: then get the Bears again. And just to be clear,
Speaker 1: David Botr they're all pro left tackle. He blew out
Speaker 1: his knee in practice on Thursday. That happened after we recorded.
Speaker 1: That's what Greg's referring to. I mean, these stadiums with
Speaker 1: you know, very few are no fans. What makes up
Speaker 1: a home field advantage? I think we'd all agree that
Speaker 1: a team like the Bucks or the Rams having to
Speaker 1: go into you know, my subminus temperatures UM is a mess,
Speaker 1: and part of it is the way that we see
Speaker 1: Green Bay play in the snow as if there are
Speaker 1: no elements at all. And UM, I think Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 1: you know, last year, I think I was on the
Speaker 1: record saying that thirteen and three didn't look like thirteen
Speaker 1: and three to me. I tell really believe in this
Speaker 1: team in the NFC right now, and I think that
Speaker 1: his two year span of UM coaching is massively under
Speaker 1: the radar. It's it's almost like it's been normalized or
Speaker 1: people are just board with it, or it's not a
Speaker 1: talking point. I mean, you're getting Aaron Rodgers playing right
Speaker 1: now at a level that UM, it's gonna take something
Speaker 1: rather remarkable to shake them up. I mean they're like yet,
Speaker 1: like losing your left tackle is huge. But but every
Speaker 1: every team is dealing with something like this somewhere and
Speaker 1: can they overcome it? UM. I don't love their defense,
Speaker 1: but yes they can. This NFC side of the board,
Speaker 1: it's nothing close to the a f C s. We
Speaker 1: can lift up teams like the Rams and and fill
Speaker 1: in the blank, but the Packers have an easier course
Speaker 1: than almost any a f C team would. This is
Speaker 1: an interesting game too, because you look at the final score,
Speaker 1: six team oh blowout, just like we all predicted, which
Speaker 1: is why all three of us locked up the Packers.
Speaker 1: It just felt like Green Bay, with a lot to
Speaker 1: play for, was going to bring the Bears down to Earth,
Speaker 1: who were on a three game winning streak, But it
Speaker 1: was against three of the worst defenses a football. It
Speaker 1: kind of played out that way. But this was also
Speaker 1: a game that was UM with eleven minutes to play
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and Chicago has the ball. Uh.
Speaker 1: The drop by Valdes Scandling that I referred to came
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. It was as bad as bad gets,
Speaker 1: the worst drop you'll see by any guy this season.
Speaker 1: It would have put the game essentially um on life support. Instead,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers takes a sack on third down. After that
Speaker 1: they have to punt it away and the Bears go
Speaker 1: on a fifteen play fifty one yard drive that takes
Speaker 1: up over eight minutes of the clock, and it ends
Speaker 1: on fourth and one at the Green Bay twenty five
Speaker 1: with an incompletion from Trabinsky to Allen Robinson and after
Speaker 1: that turnover on downs, which again chewed up more than
Speaker 1: half a quarter of game time. Uh, Chicago's defense gave
Speaker 1: up touchdown Mitch Drabinsky interception, Green Bay touchdown, game over.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the Bears are gonna do
Speaker 1: going forward. It's a It's an interesting situation because Trabinsky
Speaker 1: obviously played a lot better once he got his job back.
Speaker 1: But I I would sometimes we put too much into
Speaker 1: weeks seventeen, and by we I mean decision makers in
Speaker 1: the league. But I think Bears fans, Bears management, if
Speaker 1: they are thinking of giving Trabisky another chance on this team,
Speaker 1: should look very closely at this game compared to the
Speaker 1: other three games, because once the competition rose up, he
Speaker 1: was not able to play at the same level who
Speaker 1: was earlier this month. Well, they'll have next week's, you know,
Speaker 1: game against the Saints to look at. In that defense
Speaker 1: might find a way to solve miss Robinsky too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I don't know who should be making those decisions.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't allow the GM to be making any and
Speaker 1: we don't know that for sure. Although there was a
Speaker 1: report Naggy is expected to be back, which makes me
Speaker 1: think Ryan Pace the GM is gonna be back. I
Speaker 1: think making it to the playoffs will matter with this ownership,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, not known as the most active
Speaker 1: ownership in the world. You're you're also known as a
Speaker 1: sleep at the wheel. That's why it come one way
Speaker 1: to put it. You know, who wasn't asleep at the wheel?
Speaker 1: Old Dan Hansas, who had Aaron rodgers Um getting that
Speaker 1: All Pro I will recognize now would be stunning if
Speaker 1: he did not win m v P and First Team
Speaker 1: All Pro. And you you just mentioned La Fleur and
Speaker 1: that got me thinking. You know, Mark, these voters send
Speaker 1: in their votes this week. It's like, I think it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's do Wednesday or Thursday, something like that.
Speaker 1: It's before the playoff games. In the way the season
Speaker 1: ended for Miami. Who would have been my pick um
Speaker 1: Floor Brian Flores. I think he still would. I would
Speaker 1: go floors in the way it ended for Green Bay.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Sean Payton will get some votes,
Speaker 1: Stefanskill get some votes. I think La Fleur will get
Speaker 1: some votes. It's it's pretty unpredictable, but I wouldn't wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me if La Fleur ends up winning that award,
Speaker 1: and it would be well earned. He I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Twenty six and six uh to start his career. In
Speaker 1: the regular season, they won a playoff game last year,
Speaker 1: got wiped out in the NFC title game. The way
Speaker 1: the NFC sets up, and we'll get to the playoff
Speaker 1: pick sure at the end of the show. Um, you
Speaker 1: could definitely make the case for the Packers going back
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. UH, something they've fallen short on
Speaker 1: ten years in a row. I'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what happens now. One of those other superpowers in the
Speaker 1: NFC is the Saints. They entered Sunday hoping for a
Speaker 1: chance to swipe that number one overall seed, but they
Speaker 1: needed help to do it. But first they had to
Speaker 1: take care of the Panthers fakes. The handoff looks to
Speaker 1: throw over the middle, touchdown right down the center of
Speaker 1: the field. Zack Streeve w w L Drew Brees through
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. The Saints had five interceptions, Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater benched by Matt Rule, and New Orleans the feed
Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers thirty three to seven. That locks
Speaker 1: New Orleans into the number two seed and the Saints
Speaker 1: yes will host the seventh seed at Chicago Bears in
Speaker 1: next week's wild card round feels like a nice set
Speaker 1: up for the Saints. Well, I'm gonna lock it up,
Speaker 1: but hold up on that, hold off on that. But
Speaker 1: I already like where you're going with that. Yes, the
Speaker 1: Saints were rocked by COVID madness in the days leading
Speaker 1: up to this game. They lost their or most of
Speaker 1: their entire running back room. But an elate, an elite
Speaker 1: team like the Saints, they adapt and then they thrived.
Speaker 1: So no Alvin Kamara, uh, no Latavious Murray all right,
Speaker 1: entered Tie Montgomery, who ran for a hundred and five
Speaker 1: yards on eighteen carries to get the Saints their twelfth win.
Speaker 1: They swept the NFC South. That has never happened before.
Speaker 1: How about that? The NFC South, which is famously, at
Speaker 1: least until recent year, has been this ping pong type
Speaker 1: division where nobody had even won back to back titles
Speaker 1: in the first uh twenty some odd years of its existence,
Speaker 1: where I guess it would be less than that about
Speaker 1: fifteen years initially. Uh. Now the Saints have taken control
Speaker 1: of this division and you're feeling good about them entering
Speaker 1: the playoffs, right, Mark? Oh? Absolutely, and I think you
Speaker 1: nailed it. The U the versatility to overcome losing Kamara
Speaker 1: and the rest. I mean, you weren't playing a playoff
Speaker 1: team today, but that doesn't matter. I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's no small thing to lose a position group, and
Speaker 1: the way that they fought through that, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I I look at someone like Emmanuel Sanders, who without
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas once again, uh nine catches today's sixty three
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. Not huge numbers, but he's had
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks like that where he stepped up
Speaker 1: and they've found a way. Um as much as any
Speaker 1: team in the league, I think to mask over star
Speaker 1: players not being in the lineup, whether it's Breeze or
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas fill in the blank. Um, they're extremely balanced.
Speaker 1: Their defense is super concerning in the NFC if you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with them, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I would love to see them have this you know,
Speaker 1: final trip with Drew Brees in the postseason, because I've
Speaker 1: presumed it will be UM in New Orleans. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go on the road at some point. Um,
Speaker 1: But this team is this team is a tough out
Speaker 1: and I think that there you have to look at
Speaker 1: the way that They've three years in a row lost
Speaker 1: heartbreaking playoff losses, that breaks franchises, that breaks teams. But
Speaker 1: the combination of Sean Payton, Breeze and the rest of
Speaker 1: this team is different. Right. I'm I'm so fascinated by
Speaker 1: this team. I love the narratives. I mean, you said
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, I just love the spot there
Speaker 1: at It's so unique. It's it's one of the best
Speaker 1: four year runs any organization has had the last two decades.
Speaker 1: The the only other teams that you could possibly throw
Speaker 1: in there would be, you know, the Patriots, who you know,
Speaker 1: made you know in one three super Bowls in those
Speaker 1: four years. The Seahawks, who you know, we're in two
Speaker 1: super Bowls in one one. The Chiefs of the last
Speaker 1: four years, you know who, who have a chance to
Speaker 1: go back and in one one and an ANFC championship game.
Speaker 1: The Saints have like two lame playoff wins to show
Speaker 1: for it, and they have a Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: in his last year, and they have this class of
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen rookie group that's entering their you know
Speaker 1: contract years came here, got resigned, but you got a
Speaker 1: lot of like Alattimore and Hendricks and everything's blowing up here.
Speaker 1: After the year, it's it's definitely gonna be a lot different.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot on this to team. But I
Speaker 1: like how they're coming into the playoffs, especially their lines.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line can take over. And you never know.
Speaker 1: The two seed matters mark because you say they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go on the road eventually, you know, not
Speaker 1: if the Packers losing the divisional round, they that's what
Speaker 1: they gotta hope for there. And I think getting that
Speaker 1: two seed does matter because it means the Saints, if
Speaker 1: they can beat the Bears, get another home game in
Speaker 1: the division round, and that's big. Yeah. Sean Payton has
Speaker 1: done such a great job this season, navigating through everything,
Speaker 1: including a slow start, especially by the defense, and then
Speaker 1: the Drew Brees injury and then handling of the Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill situation and Jamis Winston to get to twelve and
Speaker 1: four again, I mean, the guy just knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Like him or not. The Carolina Panthers finished five and eleven.
Speaker 1: After the game at rule Um, he didn't put it,
Speaker 1: he didn't label it an outright benching of Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: He said that he felt that Bridgewater was lacking velocity
Speaker 1: on his throws because he had an ankle injury earlier
Speaker 1: in the game, which is why he the decision uh
Speaker 1: to bring in his backup and and it was a
Speaker 1: disaster for p J Walker, who came in and was
Speaker 1: intercepted three times. So the Panthers, I think that's the
Speaker 1: one other big story for them. They obviously are a
Speaker 1: team that's rebuilding, and it's gonna be on Rule and
Speaker 1: whoever the new GM is to figure out what the
Speaker 1: quarterback room is gonna look like. You got the feeling
Speaker 1: it might look very different. I think it'll just be
Speaker 1: Teddy in a rookie, you know, just because Teddy's guaranteed
Speaker 1: so much money next year and it just makes sense
Speaker 1: for them to add to add a rookie. They're they're
Speaker 1: gonna be in the top ten picks. They've asked to
Speaker 1: interview Patriots personnel had Nick Cassario, which would be a
Speaker 1: very interesting hire if if that were to go down,
Speaker 1: pairing him with Rule. I like that. I would like
Speaker 1: that move. Um it's I like. I like this season
Speaker 1: from the Panthers, I do. I also like that the
Speaker 1: Saints were so unlucky that they somehow didn't get a
Speaker 1: buy there, like the first number two seed you know
Speaker 1: in the NFC too, I'm not gonna buy all right,
Speaker 1: Let's uh continue uh to move, heading over to San
Speaker 1: Francisco where the Seattle Seahawks Harvard Slim hopes of being
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the NFC. Let's see how
Speaker 1: their day turned out. So here we go to turn
Speaker 1: in hand Collins this time inside the ten, inside the five,
Speaker 1: pe dives touchdown Seahawks. So back it's up five. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Alex Collins is gonna punch it in for
Speaker 1: you anyway. Steve are abel k I r oh with
Speaker 1: the call. Alex Collins ran for eight yards an eight
Speaker 1: yards score. Russell Wilson through two fourth quarter touchdown passes
Speaker 1: the Tyler Lockett, the Seahawks rally with three win over
Speaker 1: the Niners. Uh. They end twelve and four, the Seahawks
Speaker 1: with a four game winning streak, but they are locked
Speaker 1: in at the number three seed because of the Saints
Speaker 1: and Packers winning. The Seahawks will host the rival Rams
Speaker 1: in the wild card round next weekend, Mark, how good
Speaker 1: do you feel about Seahawks after today's game? I would Um,
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about their offense. UM. It's it's almost like
Speaker 1: a flip inverse relation to where they were earlier in
Speaker 1: the year where the offense was. Um, we watched it
Speaker 1: through the air. We we had Russell Wilson pegged as
Speaker 1: a potential m v P because of how they were
Speaker 1: allowing him to play and how dk Metcalf and Tyler
Speaker 1: Lockett were playing, and the defense was all the concern.
Speaker 1: I mean, Locket today set a Seattle Seahawks record for
Speaker 1: receptions in a season. Dk Metcalf set a franchise record
Speaker 1: for yardage in a season. But a lot of that
Speaker 1: has to do with the compiled numbers from earlier on.
Speaker 1: This team had a hundred and nine yards at the
Speaker 1: start of the fourth quarter. They couldn't run the ball. UM,
Speaker 1: and it took a very typical Seahawks finish of the
Speaker 1: two Tyler Lockett touchdowns and the Alex Collins um dash
Speaker 1: for a score. I mean, they came up late, UM
Speaker 1: in a game where you know, and I would put
Speaker 1: this a little bit into it's a divisional game against
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and who uh and Robert Sala who. I thought, again,
Speaker 1: it's been weeks in a row coaching lights out. UM
Speaker 1: made things real tough for Seattle. Seattle made things tough
Speaker 1: for the Niners in in in in the opposite way.
Speaker 1: UM just sort of a typical NFC West beat down.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know this Niners team, they keep flashing
Speaker 1: to the box up in the sky where like seven
Speaker 1: star players are not in the game. I mean they're
Speaker 1: doing with nobody and Seattle. Um, you know, they worked
Speaker 1: themselves out of a funk to some degree. Do I
Speaker 1: trust them right now? My trust to them is a
Speaker 1: lot lower than it was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: The one other thing I'd add is that Jamal Adams,
Speaker 1: who UM played really well today, he got he injured
Speaker 1: his shoulder, and Pete Carroll basically said, look at we're
Speaker 1: not we feel like you can play. We that will
Speaker 1: be decided in full next week. But um, uh you
Speaker 1: know that's something to monitor. But they they feel like
Speaker 1: he didn't. He avoided a major injury. At least six
Speaker 1: points in their first seven drives. You know, Russ had
Speaker 1: a hundred and one yards in his first four attempts. Now,
Speaker 1: part of it, I do think you're right, is because
Speaker 1: they're the division and these teams, they know each other.
Speaker 1: I think they've got to beat a little bit on
Speaker 1: what Seattle does. But guess what They're in the division
Speaker 1: next week against the team that they just played two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, whose defense made Russell Wilson and the Seahawks
Speaker 1: offense look just as bad until they finally broke a
Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter last week. So it it's
Speaker 1: it's weird that the NFC West is actually the closest
Speaker 1: thing to the old NFC East or a f C North.
Speaker 1: They're like the last division defensive division kind of left,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make any sense, but that's where the
Speaker 1: Rams and the Seahawks and the forty niners, at least
Speaker 1: at right now, it just doesn't feel like it's trending
Speaker 1: in a good direction for the Seahawks. I agree that
Speaker 1: Adam's injury, we'll see how serious it is, but it's
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury and he came right out of the
Speaker 1: game with it. He's obviously the key to that defense,
Speaker 1: and the offense has just been going in the wrong
Speaker 1: direction for weeks now, and you have Brandon Stallion, that
Speaker 1: Rams defense that that feels like it sets up. Well. Now,
Speaker 1: we'll see if it's John Walford or Jared Goffin. We'll
Speaker 1: get into all that, uh this week. But that twelve
Speaker 1: and four record for Seattle and the division title, all,
Speaker 1: you know, positive and a really nice season. But it
Speaker 1: is that the offense is disappearing act on some level
Speaker 1: in the second half. That really would have me most
Speaker 1: worried if I'm supporting Seattle, especially with the possible defenses
Speaker 1: that they're face, gonna be facing the Rams and then
Speaker 1: potentially the Saints. Then again, we were seeing teams flip
Speaker 1: flip the switch. They gotta be happy they got back
Speaker 1: to this point with Russell Wilson once again, and all
Speaker 1: these veterans, they're they're in good position. Speaking of the
Speaker 1: Rams and John Wolford, he's hit as he throws its tent,
Speaker 1: it is caught, it is intercepted. Troy Hill, that's twenty
Speaker 1: down the left sideline. He hits midfielding cuts to his
Speaker 1: right in his space. Troy Hill at the twenty. Troy
Speaker 1: Hill at ten, stubbing the pay dirt A pitt Sits
Speaker 1: turned a half j B long the great JB along
Speaker 1: with the ball for KSPN. Troy Hill picked off a
Speaker 1: pass from Chris Struggle little and took eighty four yards
Speaker 1: of the house. That was the defining play in the
Speaker 1: Rams eighteen to seven win over the Cardinals, in the
Speaker 1: game that prominently featured back up arback's Greg John Woolford
Speaker 1: did pretty solid work in place of Jared Goff, accepting
Speaker 1: that opening interception and Kyler Murray will now plenty of
Speaker 1: time to heal up what looked like a pretty bank. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was disappointing that the Cardinal season ends, you know,
Speaker 1: essentially with Kyler Murray injury and his ankle on the
Speaker 1: on the first drive of the game, he takes a sack,
Speaker 1: his his ankle bends backward awkwardly. He has been struggling
Speaker 1: and and Straveler comes in there and it's the battle
Speaker 1: of the backups. Um, But I kind of thought it
Speaker 1: was about all the coaches too, And I would have
Speaker 1: said going into this game, Sean McVeigh had it all
Speaker 1: over Cliff Kingsbury. I'm a little down on Cliff, and
Speaker 1: I definitely think coming out of this game, Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: has it all over Cliff Kingsbury. He didn't know he
Speaker 1: was gonna have his backup quarterback. To be fair to Kingsbury,
Speaker 1: but you know, they had nothing the Cardinals offense did.
Speaker 1: They had fifty six yards late in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Is a tough matchup. Whereas the Rams were moving the ball,
Speaker 1: they were dominating this thing. It's weird that it took
Speaker 1: that pick six to get them finally into the lead.
Speaker 1: But Wolford looked good. McVeigh you know, had him comfortable.
Speaker 1: It was an aggressive game. They could not run the
Speaker 1: ball at all, and they pretty much put it on
Speaker 1: Wolford's arm. And despite throwing a ghastly interception on his
Speaker 1: very first throw and you thought, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a disaster, I thought he played great
Speaker 1: after that. He did a lot of the next level
Speaker 1: stuff with his legs and with his army. Next level, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, here's what I mean, above the level he
Speaker 1: was before. No, I mean like next level, like quality
Speaker 1: quarterbacking stuff, like multiple times they hit third and long
Speaker 1: throwing it where he threw past the sticks multiple times,
Speaker 1: he went through his progressions and got to his second
Speaker 1: um or third read and then with his legs, you know,
Speaker 1: he was the leading rusher in the game. He outgained
Speaker 1: the entire Cardinals team and he picked up you know,
Speaker 1: a couple third lines with his legs, So that was
Speaker 1: next level for a backup quarterback, and next level that
Speaker 1: mattered too, because the Rams are banged up in their backfield.
Speaker 1: They can't do what they were able to do a
Speaker 1: month ago with you know guys out of the lineup,
Speaker 1: and he had fifty six yards. Wilford and our friend
Speaker 1: Jason Zumwalt, who friend of the show, who is a
Speaker 1: Cardinals fans, so not happy. But he texted us Dan
Speaker 1: and I early in the game suggesting that Wolford was
Speaker 1: essentially just a clone of Sean McVeigh, that he's just
Speaker 1: sort of Sean mcveigh's body and face in a helmet
Speaker 1: and it looks just like Sean McVeigh. Decided, I've had
Speaker 1: enough of Jared Goff. I'm gonna put myself out there.
Speaker 1: I could see it, and I don't know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll find out. Jared Goff, of course had surgery. I
Speaker 1: think expected to play. They actually had tape of him
Speaker 1: throwing the ball quite well in pregame where I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: could he play because they had him throwing at twenty
Speaker 1: five yards on the field to play. He is expected
Speaker 1: to play, I think, you know, based on what Jim
Speaker 1: Nance got from from McVeigh and and based on the
Speaker 1: video they showed, I was like, wow, God was kind
Speaker 1: of spinning it today. Already interesting. Um, all right, so
Speaker 1: the Rams back in the dance, third time in four
Speaker 1: years under Sean McVeigh. Sorry about that, Mark, and we
Speaker 1: now I am. I am not against that at all,
Speaker 1: and you're very entiled for them. That could be it.
Speaker 1: By the way, for Larry Fitzgerald and Patrick Peterson in Arizona,
Speaker 1: I think that it was a sad way to end. Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even healthy enough to play today. Wolf. All right,
Speaker 1: let's head to Tampa. The staff Brady looking looking, looking flushed,
Speaker 1: looking those up all I don't favor. It's caught by
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Flagthone, Brown will score touchdown, Tampa Bay touchdown,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay bucketeers. See what the flags all about? Part
Speaker 1: of cannae. Anyway, we got plenty of gun powder. This
Speaker 1: is the season for the alley. Yeah dreams a w
Speaker 1: f us with a great call, Tom Brady through for
Speaker 1: three yards and four touchdowns. It's Tom Brady helping the
Speaker 1: playoff bound Bucks clinched the fifth seed in the NFC seven.
Speaker 1: They whoop up on the Falcons, who aren't so younger
Speaker 1: under Aheam Morris anymore. That's four straight wins for the Bucks. Uh.
Speaker 1: They will get the NFC East champion on the road
Speaker 1: next weekend, Greg, Tampa Bay is right where it wants
Speaker 1: to be as second season Beckons. There they are because
Speaker 1: they're like an offense first team that is just rolling.
Speaker 1: They lost Mike Evans during this game to a knee
Speaker 1: injury that Bruce Arians said after the game. They're hopeful
Speaker 1: is is not that serious. I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: you know, reading, yeah, there were there reports that he
Speaker 1: did not have structural damage, so reading between the lines,
Speaker 1: it might be a legament strain which could be anywhere
Speaker 1: from your back or a couple weeks. We'll see because
Speaker 1: they're gonna do more tests. But the crazy thing is, like,
Speaker 1: you don't miss Mike Evans that much. When Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: comes in and has his best game as a Buck,
Speaker 1: gets a couple of touchdowns, goes well over a hundred yards,
Speaker 1: eleven catches, Chris Godwin does the same. Rob Gronkowski. You know,
Speaker 1: I we gave him them grief about Gronk looks better
Speaker 1: than he's ever looked and like, no, that's not true. Man.
Speaker 1: He does look a lot faster right now. So you're
Speaker 1: saying that the coach in the quarterback who is the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time, actually know how to assess
Speaker 1: their own tight end, which we laughed at me or
Speaker 1: days ago. I still laugh at it because he's not
Speaker 1: the same guy he was. It's not that there are
Speaker 1: two different ways to look. Yeah, I don't think he's better,
Speaker 1: but there. They threw a screen for him today where
Speaker 1: he had juice running it that I really don't think
Speaker 1: he had even four or five weeks ago. He look,
Speaker 1: he only had two for twenty nine in this game.
Speaker 1: But they didn't get stopped. The Falcons didn't stopped the
Speaker 1: Bucks except for one possession in the entire game. And
Speaker 1: that one possession that they stopped them was off a
Speaker 1: perfect throw for Tom Brady to Scotty Miller that went
Speaker 1: right in Miller's bread basket that just bounced up in
Speaker 1: the air and they got an interception. That that's how
Speaker 1: like unconscious they are on offense right now. The Falcons
Speaker 1: put up a great fight. It was thirty seven, uh,
Speaker 1: pretty late in this game, and they had been matching
Speaker 1: them and score for score, and it was just like
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna they would have scored eighty points if
Speaker 1: they got more possessions. And and don't forget what the
Speaker 1: Falcons feisty Falcons defense did to the Chiefs seven days ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't a totally lost team. They they're
Speaker 1: playing hard for Morris. And so this Buck's offense, this
Speaker 1: is week's in a row now where like I, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to strip away doubts and just sort of
Speaker 1: wonder what their heights are. This is gonna be the
Speaker 1: Buck's first postseason game in thirteen years, and it needs
Speaker 1: to be said. You know that the Paths finished seven
Speaker 1: and nine. They're going home. Tom Brady ends his first
Speaker 1: season in Tampa with forty touchdown passes. And I know
Speaker 1: we are in a pass happy NFL world, but that
Speaker 1: is an amazing season for a forty three year old man.
Speaker 1: And there were some peaks and valleys, of course, uh
Speaker 1: for the Bucks the season on offense, but Brady played
Speaker 1: sixteen games and ends with forty touchdowns. The Bucks are
Speaker 1: getting for what it was a two years and fifty
Speaker 1: million whatever that deal was worth, every penny for what
Speaker 1: he has brought to this organization and now they're gonna
Speaker 1: be playing January football that matters. That's uh, that's a
Speaker 1: big deal. Unbelievable. Gotta respect. Listen, I am a Torture
Speaker 1: Jets fan, Greg, But you know what, I love the
Speaker 1: Tom Brady gets out of New England and I get
Speaker 1: to appreciate him like other people on the outside, just
Speaker 1: for what he's been able to do. Because you look
Speaker 1: at what he was doing at the end of his
Speaker 1: New England run, it looked like a guy in decline.
Speaker 1: And he's still He's not the same guy was six
Speaker 1: or seven years ago. But this has been a really
Speaker 1: strong year and I think he would have Like that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It says more about where the Patriots offense
Speaker 1: was at. Look, I don't think Tom Brady in New
Speaker 1: England would have been that much better this year. That
Speaker 1: was the worst, you know, set of characters in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL. Like, I think that would have probably been
Speaker 1: a disaster, maybe a slightly better disaster, uh than seven
Speaker 1: and nine, But I don't think they would have made
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Tom Brady. He's the best forty three
Speaker 1: year old player of all time. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: not even he was a top ten quarterback this year.
Speaker 1: He's even at a diminished level, he is a top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback. And when you say right now, his arm
Speaker 1: in certain ways is as good as it's been all year,
Speaker 1: I mean it's deep. Passing is stronger over the last
Speaker 1: three weeks than it was at any point in the
Speaker 1: season for the most and they got and they got
Speaker 1: a nice set up with the schedule here in terms
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. And one thing to keep in mind
Speaker 1: their defense not playing as well. But they were without
Speaker 1: three starters, including Devin White and JPP because of COVID.
Speaker 1: But those players, like some of the Browns players, are
Speaker 1: uncertain for next week depending on the timing of when
Speaker 1: they come off the COVID list. So that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be something we're tracking. All right. Let's wrap up by
Speaker 1: spinning through the carnage of the NFC East. Let's start
Speaker 1: in the Metal ends, third and goal at the seventeen
Speaker 1: of the Giants dalk back to throw Nobody's open. He
Speaker 1: slides to his left. Now he side arms it into
Speaker 1: the end zone and it's intercepted by the Giants, picked
Speaker 1: off by Xavier McKinney. The rookie against his first career
Speaker 1: interception that seals the deal for Pick Blue. With one
Speaker 1: fifteen to go, Bob Papa played them bongos for w
Speaker 1: f A and Leonard Williams applied the pressure. Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: threw up the desperation balloon and rookie Xavier McKinney came
Speaker 1: down with the ball in the end zone with one
Speaker 1: fifteen to play. One Giant's first down in some ridiculous
Speaker 1: Wayne Gallman fumble recovery later, and the Jilans stayed alive
Speaker 1: in the NFC race with three to nineteen win over
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Greg the Cowboys never failed to let down
Speaker 1: in the Big n I mean, just when you you
Speaker 1: think you've seen it all as as a Cowboys fan,
Speaker 1: if you know for them out there you're losing this game.
Speaker 1: That Jason Garrett, I mean, that just puts a little
Speaker 1: extra sauce in your your pants. How about how about
Speaker 1: what it's been a long day? What kind of sauce?
Speaker 1: It's some bad sauce, A little bit extra though. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just like this was Jason an outside sorcerers. Did
Speaker 1: he create the sauce? Don't look too deep into art
Speaker 1: sometimes just accept what it is, uh week Week seventeen,
Speaker 1: that this was Jason Garrett's move from thirteen. This was
Speaker 1: like what they did every year was they'd get to
Speaker 1: Week seventeen, they put them on Sunday night and they
Speaker 1: would blow it. They didn't put this one on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: But man, you were watching this game knowing that the
Speaker 1: winner could be the NFC East champion and the loser
Speaker 1: gets eliminated. And so there was that that feeling. But
Speaker 1: then there was another part of me that's watching it
Speaker 1: like these teams stink like I watched like they looked
Speaker 1: every bit five and end and six and nine trying
Speaker 1: to blow the game back and forth. And and Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy really ended on a down note by not challenging
Speaker 1: this this play that seemed like a pretty clear overturn
Speaker 1: that helped the Giants kick a field goal that made
Speaker 1: it four. He also didn't go for two. The fans
Speaker 1: are not happy with Mike McCarthy. Andy Dalton had a
Speaker 1: really rough game, was very lucky not to throw about
Speaker 1: four or five interceptions. I'm glad the Giants won this
Speaker 1: game because they were the much better team today, but
Speaker 1: but it it carries through another week where you know. Now,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say confidently because we've been tricked so many
Speaker 1: times that we're cautious to speak at this point about
Speaker 1: the NFC East, But thinking, you know, twenty four hours ago,
Speaker 1: this Dallas team is the team that could you know,
Speaker 1: do some damage if they click on offense, and you
Speaker 1: know a week ago, Andy Dalton looks great today. He
Speaker 1: in the first half rout for three point three yards
Speaker 1: per carries, throwing passes all over the place. Um, is
Speaker 1: that the Giants defense doing that? Or is that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys just being totally um, you know, inconsistent And watching
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's interview after that game, I mean, it is
Speaker 1: a man with a thousand yards stair. Very few people
Speaker 1: seem to need a vacation as much as him without
Speaker 1: deserving one. Um, yes, no vacation for you, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I think I've been burned by the Cowboys so many
Speaker 1: times on this podcast for getting sucked into those little
Speaker 1: mini um spurts of relevant relevance. Um, this time, I
Speaker 1: stay it out of it because they did again. They're
Speaker 1: so obvious about it now that they do it just
Speaker 1: to get people to get sucked in and then they
Speaker 1: lay the egg and you say to yourself, how did
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team come out of the one that we
Speaker 1: saw last week where the three wide receivers were going
Speaker 1: nuts and Andy Dalton is throwing the ball with authority.
Speaker 1: That's what the Cowboys do now, That's what they've been
Speaker 1: doing for decades now. They're just an up and down
Speaker 1: mediocre organization in terms of their ability to put out
Speaker 1: a winning product. And it happened again, uh in. And
Speaker 1: come next summer, you're gonna hear if Dak Prescott's back there,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear about Ced Lamb and year two
Speaker 1: who had a huge drop by the way right before
Speaker 1: that interception. You're gonna hear about how the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: back and they're gonna be and then they'll suck everybody
Speaker 1: in again and then the same thing will happen. It's
Speaker 1: just enough the Cowboys for the coverage they get. It's
Speaker 1: time to actually put together a real team that we
Speaker 1: could take seriously. This was not the team. And and
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones doing all the same moves. Saturday night, we
Speaker 1: learned that he signed Kellen Moore to this like big time,
Speaker 1: like one of the highest paid offensive coordinators in the
Speaker 1: in the league after Moore's agent pretty transparently used the
Speaker 1: Boise State you know, his alum maybe maybe intended to
Speaker 1: possibly go to Boise State, but the end result was
Speaker 1: they used Boise State to get a ton of money
Speaker 1: out of Jerry. That puts Mike McCarthy in the bad spot.
Speaker 1: That's what they did with Jason Garrett back in the day.
Speaker 1: To Wade Phillips, they they gave Jason Garrett the money.
Speaker 1: Like it all, just like it keeps repeating itself. I
Speaker 1: knocked my water over. Okay. So the Giants win on
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, but to win the putrid NFC East with
Speaker 1: a six and ten record, they would need the Washington
Speaker 1: football team to fall to the Eagles. Did it happen?
Speaker 1: Sunday night? Fall? Lets loose Young picks it up Scott
Speaker 1: is here and rides him out of out of the
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line. Can you believe it? They get
Speaker 1: a big break and they give it right back two
Speaker 1: plays later. That's the story of the game. On Sunday night,
Speaker 1: Nate Sudfell replaces Jalen Hurts with thirty five to play
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and immediately goes into the tank
Speaker 1: of the Eagle's offense does the interception by Sudfeld followed
Speaker 1: by and Alex Smith pick that led to sun Felt
Speaker 1: unable to handle a shotgun snack. Chase Young recovers it,
Speaker 1: Washington takes it from their final score fourteen and the
Speaker 1: football team, at seven and nine, claimed the NFC East.
Speaker 1: And good for Washington, who won five of the last
Speaker 1: seven games to take this sad division, and good for
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. One of the great comeback stories in the
Speaker 1: history of our league. But that is not what people
Speaker 1: are talking about immediately after this game to markets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, uh, you bring Sudfeld in.
Speaker 1: Your quarterback of the future is Jalen hurts um And
Speaker 1: they want to under the guys of wanting to get
Speaker 1: a look at Sudfelder has been on the roster since
Speaker 1: seen so a lot of new information to be gleaned.
Speaker 1: Of course, in this situation, I find it um utterly absurd,
Speaker 1: And I you know, I've got got a bunch of
Speaker 1: smart um you know, whipper snappers telling me, don't you
Speaker 1: see that they want to secure their draft pick this
Speaker 1: or that. Okay, look um, that's your freedom. But I
Speaker 1: just think that there is uh something to be said
Speaker 1: about a code in the NFL that you don't do that?
Speaker 1: And and and it's also just to me, what are
Speaker 1: you You're putting Nate's sunfelt sud Felt into a tough position,
Speaker 1: And all I needed to look at was the faces
Speaker 1: of the Eagles offensive lineman and other players along the sideline,
Speaker 1: including Jalen Hurts the other game, just wondering what is
Speaker 1: going on here and the reaction of players not only
Speaker 1: just on the Giants but around the league. I think
Speaker 1: it's an absurd um way to handle a totally broken
Speaker 1: season in Philadelphia. Um. And it leads me just to
Speaker 1: wonder what on earth Doug Peterson was up to? Is
Speaker 1: he smarter than I am and all of us? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I I found it to be a really
Speaker 1: ill note to end the Eagles season on and the
Speaker 1: Giants and Washington's well, it's gonna be a great chapter
Speaker 1: in the sequel to Doug Peterson's book, you know, with
Speaker 1: that he really he really knew what was going on. Fearless. Wait,
Speaker 1: let's let's give credit where credits due. It's pretty fearless
Speaker 1: putting Nate Sudfeld into a game that is still within
Speaker 1: striking disser. It's saying you don't give a flying crap
Speaker 1: what anyone thinks, so I'll give them that, yeah, or
Speaker 1: or that you don't really care about winning the game,
Speaker 1: so that that's why everyone's upset. And it totally understandable
Speaker 1: why why everyone's upset. But they told me they weren't
Speaker 1: really that interested in the game before it started, So
Speaker 1: these are these are weird lines. And I do think
Speaker 1: you're not doing right by your players that are out
Speaker 1: there competing by having a plan. And it sounds like,
Speaker 1: according to Al Michael's and Chris Collins were that the
Speaker 1: plan all along was to bring Sudfeld in, which we
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Mike Garafolo indicated um something to this nature,
Speaker 1: not not totally specific, but thought we'd see Sudfeld. So
Speaker 1: they wanted to look at Sudfeld. Now they now Alan
Speaker 1: Chris asked Peterson, why would you really do that if
Speaker 1: like the game's close, and yeah, he didn't answer that
Speaker 1: question to them, and apparently they answered yes, And it's
Speaker 1: it kind of makes a mockery of the other players,
Speaker 1: but teams do this stuff all the time. Players who
Speaker 1: finished last week's Eagles game, we're just ruled out for
Speaker 1: this game. Um, it's a little different pulling obviously superior
Speaker 1: player in the middle. And it's such an annoying way
Speaker 1: for the season to end, for this NFC East crown
Speaker 1: to be given uh to Washington, but it's kind of fitting.
Speaker 1: I can't believe NFL got to two fifty six all
Speaker 1: the games in time, but man, they're like limping to
Speaker 1: the end these last couple of Browns weeks like this
Speaker 1: has not been great football. And anyone that watched the
Speaker 1: Giants Cowboys like I don't feel bad for those two teams.
Speaker 1: They're dreadful too, right, I mean they they dug their
Speaker 1: own grave in double digit lost season. So the Giants
Speaker 1: fans have the right to be frustrated right now and
Speaker 1: upset with Doug Peterson. But ultimately, Doug Peterson didn't do
Speaker 1: this to the Giants organization did by not fielding a
Speaker 1: better team. Also, Doug Peterson, I don't agree with it
Speaker 1: at all. I think, yes, there's there should be some
Speaker 1: type of code. You're playing in prime time, you're representing
Speaker 1: the league and your team, and you have a really competitive,
Speaker 1: not great football game, but a competitive football game going on.
Speaker 1: Jalen Herbs is an exciting young rookie quarterback and to
Speaker 1: just remove him from the equation, uh, it doesn't pass
Speaker 1: the smell test. It also could have helped if Nate
Speaker 1: Sudfeld looked at all prepared to play when he came
Speaker 1: in the game, the guy for a guy that's a
Speaker 1: technically a three year veteran. I understand part of the
Speaker 1: reason Doug wanted to get a look was because Nate
Speaker 1: hadn't had a lot of opportunity to play well. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Doug saw in this quarter that's in
Speaker 1: that quarter of play that's gonna help. And it also
Speaker 1: felt like part of something um ichier around the Eagles
Speaker 1: right now that this happens on the same day, uh,
Speaker 1: that a report comes out that the relationship between Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson and Carson Wentz is fractured and we see the
Speaker 1: divorce coming between the former franchise quarterback and the head coach.
Speaker 1: They make Carson Wentz inactive a healthy scratch. They don't
Speaker 1: want to risk getting him hurt. And then it felt
Speaker 1: like almost like a show, like, Oh, this is my
Speaker 1: I'm Doug Peterson, this is my situation. Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 1: my quarterback of the future, but I want to get
Speaker 1: Nate Subtfeld in there to see if I have my
Speaker 1: backup of the future, because I know it's not Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz because our relationship is fractured, and it all felt
Speaker 1: a little bit ugly and really a tough way for
Speaker 1: the Eagle season to end. You feel for the players
Speaker 1: who compete and wanted to win on national television tonight.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would like, you know, to flip it
Speaker 1: a little bit, like, UM, yeah, you at least we
Speaker 1: get a seven win UM NFC East winner. I guess
Speaker 1: that's something. UM. And there are a lot of good
Speaker 1: stories for Washington and we've been over them countless times
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith and Ron Rivera. So it's not to
Speaker 1: take anything away from from them, and they I think
Speaker 1: they probably are the best team in this division. I
Speaker 1: although I'm so things like that like they I and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna move off my prediction that I've had
Speaker 1: for months that um, the Bucks will lose to the
Speaker 1: NFC East. I don't that at this point when you
Speaker 1: can't know, you can't and then you're thick with it
Speaker 1: because it might still be proven right, could have it
Speaker 1: could happen. All I would say one thing. It's like
Speaker 1: you had other chances during a terrible year to get
Speaker 1: a look at Nate Sudfeld. I get it look at also.
Speaker 1: By the way, when when April comes and they're in
Speaker 1: the first round picking at number six versus number nine,
Speaker 1: a lot of people will be telling us how smart
Speaker 1: and cunning that was. I mean that this the story
Speaker 1: will flip and suddenly they'll be celebrated for their Why
Speaker 1: why big of a deal? Yeah? Is it that? Here's
Speaker 1: the thing that Washington had two eight yards in this
Speaker 1: game against the Eagles backups um Smith wasn't wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: careful with the football in this game. There was not
Speaker 1: a lot to take out of the offense here. No
Speaker 1: if and if you follow any Washington fans or read
Speaker 1: the reply to some of the reporters, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a heartwarming. Alex Smith is a heartwarming story for everyone,
Speaker 1: except for Washington fans who are who I have noticed,
Speaker 1: are sick of watching him check down on plays. And
Speaker 1: they and the reporters covering the team kept saying, you know,
Speaker 1: updating all must every drive that oh Taylor Heineke is
Speaker 1: not coming in this drive. I guess they were under
Speaker 1: the assumption that was possible, that like maybe Heinek would
Speaker 1: come in UM for Alex sand I think the Giants
Speaker 1: had probably the highest upside, but who who the heck?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Ron Rivera just Um just held off
Speaker 1: on a real craving to get a look at Tyler
Speaker 1: heineke H with the division on the line in minutes
Speaker 1: to go, please and and Greg. When we talked about
Speaker 1: the Bucks earlier, you said they got a nice matchup,
Speaker 1: they get the NFC East winner, And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the Bucks are a safe pick to advance out of
Speaker 1: the first round. But you know that pass rush they
Speaker 1: get hot. Tom Brady sometimes can look lost when he's
Speaker 1: got pressure coming at him. In his forties. That could
Speaker 1: be a lower scoring game than people might think, despite
Speaker 1: what Tampa Bay has done the last few weeks. But
Speaker 1: we will have time to talk about that. Um. Alright,
Speaker 1: So Washington Wensley's I haven't said I'd never said there
Speaker 1: are word once this entire season. I just want to
Speaker 1: say that when Alan Chris are saying it repeatedly, the
Speaker 1: old Juicer went to fifty six, never said the R word.
Speaker 1: I think I had an a plus record on that too.
Speaker 1: You go Sessler nailed it as well. Greg fourteen times.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have it right here on my notes.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's spin forward. It's been you don't think,
Speaker 1: but he did. Alright, let's spin forward. This was. This
Speaker 1: has been branded by the NFL. And again I like
Speaker 1: to think that we are plugged in fellows to the
Speaker 1: league and also through our connection with our fans, both
Speaker 1: of this podcast and the writing side of things, like
Speaker 1: we might have some, um, I don't know, some type
Speaker 1: of creativity that we can offer to the NFL when
Speaker 1: they say, hey, we want to brand this weekend of
Speaker 1: upcoming playoff weekend in a different way. Nobody did. And
Speaker 1: now we're learning that has been branded Super wild Card Weekend.
Speaker 1: How about that? Because there's three games on each day
Speaker 1: this year, because there's two extra playoff teams. Uh, it
Speaker 1: is no longer wild Card Weekend. It is Super wild
Speaker 1: Card Weekend. And here is what it's gonna look like.
Speaker 1: Saturday one a f C game, two NFC games. Starts
Speaker 1: with Indie at Buffalo in the one oh five pm
Speaker 1: time slot on CBS, then the NFC the Sandwich game
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Sandwich Los Angeles Rams at
Speaker 1: Seattle for forty on Fox, so that will be Troy
Speaker 1: and Joe Buck. We hope Tony, Romo uh and Jim
Speaker 1: Nance will be together on the early game, but Romo
Speaker 1: uh COVID nineteen will see what happens late game Saturday,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay at Giants, NBC. Then on Sunday, and this
Speaker 1: is this is notable. That would be news if they're
Speaker 1: out the Giants. But I think you means, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay at Washington Football Team Sunday, The early game Baltimore, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: That's an ESPN, ABC joint. The middle game four forty
Speaker 1: Eastern Chicago at New Orleans on CBS, and then the
Speaker 1: Closer or Cessler the Closer Cleveland at Pittsburgh on NBC.
Speaker 1: And it should be noted Alvin Kamara um arguably the
Speaker 1: best running back in football, who got sent to the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen list. He tested positive. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this has changed, but I had read yesterday that if
Speaker 1: the Saints played on Saturday next week he would not
Speaker 1: be able to clear protocol. But if they played Sunday,
Speaker 1: which they are, he may be available next week. That
Speaker 1: that's a story. He also has to be healthy enough
Speaker 1: to play. He was not a close contact COVID list.
Speaker 1: He was I have COVID list guy. So big weekend
Speaker 1: of football coming up. You made it to the final um,
Speaker 1: to the Final nine, Mark I. I you know when
Speaker 1: I when I used to have root for teams that
Speaker 1: would make the playoffs, or I remember when I was
Speaker 1: like a Yukon basketball fan. You know, I liked if
Speaker 1: they were in the Elite eight game in Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: because I was like, well, I'm I'm one of five
Speaker 1: fan bases left still rooting for a team that's alive.
Speaker 1: The Browns will be one of the nine teams still
Speaker 1: alive for the Super Bowl late Sunday afternoon. You've been
Speaker 1: guaranteed that. Well, I'm you know, I'm glad they didn't
Speaker 1: get the you know, the Andy Dalton versus the Texans
Speaker 1: spot on Saturday, like ten am, Um, you're right, it's Steve.
Speaker 1: You got Alan Chris. By the way, they did Confervent
Speaker 1: the Alan Chris game. Mike Terrico is doing the Saturday
Speaker 1: night game. It's also about three minutes before we start
Speaker 1: our podcast, so there could be some raw emotions coming
Speaker 1: off of that. I would just say the super wild
Speaker 1: Card weekend. I don't know what what we're critiquing here.
Speaker 1: I feel like the message was stretched the bounds of
Speaker 1: human creativity, and I think box checked. Call it like, uh, divorce,
Speaker 1: you know, divorce weekend. You know it's a lot of football. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: and we are not going to jinx this because yes,
Speaker 1: now it's the playoffs and there are a lot of
Speaker 1: games to play in The NFL has not bubbled up
Speaker 1: or done anything like that, so we are hardly in
Speaker 1: the clear on code. But just to make it out
Speaker 1: of the regular season and get to fifty six played, um,
Speaker 1: that is my her miracle. It's a great slate, by
Speaker 1: the way, I mean, other than that NFC East game,
Speaker 1: you know, the Washington get in there, those other five
Speaker 1: games all look great to me. I don't know, Chicago
Speaker 1: New Orleans doesn't do the whole. I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: I take it back. And I've seen the ram even
Speaker 1: though I'm intrigued by the Rams. Um, I've seen the
Speaker 1: Rams Seattle like defensive struggle a couple of times this year,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've watched every single Seattle game
Speaker 1: on an isolated island on Prime just it's NonStop Seahawks,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad for them, happy for you Seattle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's no there are no complaints about the a
Speaker 1: f C wild Card weekend. That is going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch, all right, So there
Speaker 1: you go. We've done it all, we've said it all.
Speaker 1: And as we take this at eleven forty two pm
Speaker 1: on the East Coast, only Adam Gates has been let
Speaker 1: go UM as coach. He is now the fourth coach
Speaker 1: that's been fired UM and there are usually a couple more.
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor should be noted a report from Florio on
Speaker 1: NBC that he may not be safe. All this up
Speaker 1: in the air right now as we record this, and
Speaker 1: that's why we have a special around the NFL podcast
Speaker 1: episode coming up earlier than usual late Monday. Will tape it.
Speaker 1: It is the New Horizons Monday podcast. We don't call it,
Speaker 1: we don't call it Black Monday. It's New Horizons maybe
Speaker 1: because opportunities abound us, so we will break down all
Speaker 1: the movements probably on Monday. Maybe Greg, maybe nothing's happening
Speaker 1: on Monday, and we'll say maybe, we'll wait to Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But either way, the New Horizons podcast coming up next
Speaker 1: we'll be flexible listener. If you're a listener, you need
Speaker 1: to be flexible. And well, we gave them the best
Speaker 1: decision a lot to listen to today. So you got
Speaker 1: to crank through this one quickly, crank it. Send it
Speaker 1: up to two times uh in terms of velocity of
Speaker 1: the show, all right, velocity of the show. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: definitely time. Been a long day. It's been a long day,
Speaker 1: all right. This is Dan Anson signing off for Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the old Boss, the Mailman, the Pipe, and of course
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual glass, who's going to do
Speaker 1: excellent producing work. I know she will on this mega
Speaker 1: app alright, everybody until Tuesday when maybe Monday, stay tuned.