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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live, presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. What the heck happened

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Speaker 1: to fall? I don't know what the heck is going

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Speaker 1: on around here? Forty degrees This is like November weather.

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Speaker 1: We're getting in October. It's a bunch of huey, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and I'm tired of it already. I don't even pull

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Speaker 1: my gloves and wool hats out yet. It's not even

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Speaker 1: a hat wearing weather or hat time or were hat

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Speaker 1: wearing time of the year. And yeah, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to start pulling out my hats. Come on, Mike, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't we get at least a couple of weeks in October.

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Speaker 1: I realized after Halloween all bets are off. But this

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Speaker 1: is eighteenth. We're in the third week of October. It's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of bull Come on, this isn't bad. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna get nice again. It's raining, It's gonna get nice

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Speaker 1: at the end. Southern tiers supposed to get snow. Bye.

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Speaker 1: Weekend's gonna be perfect for Bill's fans. Perfect, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you here in Western New York's gonna be nice, So

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Speaker 1: just hunker down, have a little chili, get under your

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Speaker 1: electric blanket, turning TV on, just just get through it. Yeah, fine,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was eagerly anticipating Game five for Yankees

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Speaker 1: Guardians last night, and the dang fingers rained out. I

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Speaker 1: kept switching back to the channel, and it was it

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Speaker 1: was the game show, Oh the Cube, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's yea, that's a dumb show. Well I didn't stay long, um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I kept it. Had the crawl on the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Game five. So this is, this is this was my

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Speaker 1: tier of sports watching yesterday. So I'm all, I'm all

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Speaker 1: amp to watch the baseball game. I'll say this, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna drop by the baseball game, but I wasn't amped.

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Speaker 1: And it was in a rain delay because they said delay,

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Speaker 1: not postponed yet delayed. So now hours it was done.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm on the hook, I'm checking back, you know.

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Speaker 1: But we got nothing. And then Monday night football is

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Speaker 1: Chargers Broncos, which was a yeah, that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a se holy crow. The prime time games the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks have been an abomination of football. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, though early on it looked like, okay, Russ,

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Speaker 1: and I snapped out of he's doing good. Had like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and some some yards passing in the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's playing well. And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the Bronch, the the Chargers defense just turned

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Speaker 1: it up a notch and they couldn't do anything the

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Speaker 1: rest of the game. It was I thought that I

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Speaker 1: thought Troy Aikman's assessment, and Troy Aikman usually it doesn't

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Speaker 1: say anything that's makes you sit up in your chair.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's pretty he's pretty flatline as an analyst.

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Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's emotionless, which um last night was some

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Speaker 1: of the most I mean from him. I was surprised

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Speaker 1: to hear it. But he's sitting there watching the entire field.

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Speaker 1: He knows what he's looking at. Obviously, we're kind of

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Speaker 1: beholding to the camera angle, so we're not seeing the coverages.

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Speaker 1: We're not seeing you know, our Broncos receivers getting open,

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Speaker 1: and Russ just doesn't see him. Whatever he said last night,

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Speaker 1: the receivers on this Broncos offense cannot get open. The

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Speaker 1: details are not followed in the protections assignments he said.

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Speaker 1: I mean he basically hung the Broncos offense in totality

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Speaker 1: out to dry yesterday. And you know what, He's probably right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got received, you got top of the line receivers

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Speaker 1: there they can't get open. You got a quarterback who

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Speaker 1: looks a little more doughey than he used to do

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Speaker 1: in his younger days. I don't think Russ can move

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Speaker 1: around like he used to. Now. He's come up with

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Speaker 1: his second injury excuse in his many weeks. Now it's

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Speaker 1: a hamstring after it was his latissimus Dorsey muscle in

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Speaker 1: his back last week. You know as to why he

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Speaker 1: played lousy his offensive line. The only thing they're good

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Speaker 1: They can't block in the run game. The only reason

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Speaker 1: Nate Hackett still has a job is because they got

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Speaker 1: another game in five days. When's the Denver bye week?

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Speaker 1: Let's look that up, because I'm telling you right now

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Speaker 1: Nate Hackett is on thin ice. Well, I can tell

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Speaker 1: you when they're bye week is pretty quick here, hold on.

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Speaker 1: make it. He might not get to week. He might not.

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Speaker 1: He might scored one offensive touchdown in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: They've got two games before their buys. They played the

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Speaker 1: Jets on Thursday on October. Yeah, on in five days,

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Speaker 1: which is they are the lowest scoring team in football.

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Speaker 1: They are scoring fewer points than the Commanders what they've scored.

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Speaker 1: the Bears. Steve with Russell Wilson as your quarterback, their

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Speaker 1: defense is their defense is playing lights out. They're everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Their defense is great. Now. I know the Charger didn't

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Speaker 1: there and thinking, you know what this is, And I

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Speaker 1: told you this today. This is like the two thousand

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Speaker 1: each defense that can actually stay ej they can stop everybody.

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Speaker 1: They're getting after the past or they're covering people up

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Speaker 1: in the back end and they just can't score points.

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Speaker 1: And you got to you gotta coach, and we can

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Speaker 1: by the way, during those team with we talked about

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Speaker 1: how we were a little surprised, very surprised Nate Hackett

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Speaker 1: got Nathaniel Hackett got hired as a Denver Broncos head coach.

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Speaker 1: At the time, it looked like a ploy by the

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Speaker 1: then ownership of the Denver Broncos to lure Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: Aaron wanted out and wanted a new change of scenery. Yadda,

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Speaker 1: Yaddy had to do what Peyton Manning did. Go to Denver,

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Speaker 1: win a championship. They got a good they got a

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Speaker 1: great defense. He'll come in be everything they need on offense,

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Speaker 1: and they'll win the championship. Didn't happen, But that's why

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Speaker 1: Denver hired a guy like Nathaniel Hackett. Not quite in

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Speaker 1: our opinion, I guess I'm speaking for you and I've talked.

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Speaker 1: We didn't think Nate Hackett was cut out to be

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Speaker 1: probably some ultruistic, altruistic I don't know if that's the

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Speaker 1: right word, some underlying motivations for getting Nate Hacket, even

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback Rogers first and you know, make the decision.

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Speaker 1: Then Nate Hackett's out of his depth. He's that team

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Speaker 1: is struggling, and I think it's because there's a vacuum

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Speaker 1: at the top of leadership. They just cannot get out

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Speaker 1: of their own way. And this is the thing. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's one. I mean, you reference the two thousand

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Speaker 1: he had Stevie Johnson, who was a seventh round draft choice.

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Speaker 1: in Jerry Judy. Those are their top three receivers and

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Speaker 1: they can't get Opick got some traits they can't get open. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: was a time less both they were trading punts in overtime.

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Speaker 1: They they did, they couldn't get a first down in overtime.

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Speaker 1: It is the exact opposite of what happened with the

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Speaker 1: Bill's Chiefs in overtime back in January. At the end

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Speaker 1: It was atrocity. At the end of that game, they

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Speaker 1: got colder and colder as the game went on, not

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Speaker 1: hotter and hotter. It's like, you're yeah, it's like that

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Speaker 1: or your friends when you're looking for something. You're getting colder,

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Speaker 1: get colder, cold, Oh you're warm. Now you're getting warmer.

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Speaker 1: So you got you're getting all these primetime games that

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Speaker 1: I just started watching the Derek Jeter series on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 1: back to the game. I said, GEEZI, yeah, no one

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Speaker 1: There was like justin Herbert did not throw a touchdown

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Speaker 1: What the hell is going on there? They're ineptitude is

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Speaker 1: only shrouded by the block out the sun in a

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Speaker 1: the Denver offense. And maybe it's just me, but I

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Speaker 1: think Bill's fans have this idea too. The Chargers got

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Speaker 1: some guys. Now, Bosa's hurt as he always is, so

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Speaker 1: is Keenan Allen Rank Keenan Allen's hurt Week one. But

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Speaker 1: made him one of the highest bake cornerbacks. In football,

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Speaker 1: that that Steph I mean multiple left him naked every

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Speaker 1: game they played. Yeah, the three times he played him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you shut up. Yeah, that's the guy that's that J. C. Jackson,

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Speaker 1: And he's landed that. He's making a ton of pilot

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Speaker 1: that J. C. Jackson was. He can't. He can't. He's terry.

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Speaker 1: He's their worst corner. Now. In his defense, he did

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Speaker 1: But the guy is not fitting the bill. He's not

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Speaker 1: and I there's no love loss here for the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots or Bill belichicking all those guys and what

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Speaker 1: they do. But I'll say this, they know things when

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Speaker 1: they let a guy like jac Jackson walk because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to pay him. This is the same. This

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Speaker 1: is the same guys, the same organization, the Patriots who

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Speaker 1: a defensive Player of the Year. It's the same organization

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Speaker 1: who paid um Regis Darell, Rivas Rivas Island. They paid

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Speaker 1: him and he got him a championship, both those guys.

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Speaker 1: So they know what they need and they know what

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Speaker 1: snaps the ball, shuffles to his right, and then turns

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Speaker 1: back around towards Josh pirouettes and then takes off around

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Speaker 1: the left edge in front of a pitch and corner

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Speaker 1: to unbelievable athleticism for a big guy, particularly a center,

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Speaker 1: who's got to make the line calls, then snap the

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Speaker 1: ball and then do all of that. Just a fantastic,

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Speaker 1: fantastic display. The offensive line played really well against the Campus.

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Speaker 1: Their best game. It was, and in fact said it

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Speaker 1: and it was this game of the year by their

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Speaker 1: offense and defensive line. And it was also a game

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Speaker 1: in which the Chiefs really gave him some problems. They

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Speaker 1: were having struggling to protect Josh up front because of

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Speaker 1: the pressure. They were sending two many different looks. They

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Speaker 1: had different looks and the and finally, you know, when

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Speaker 1: they did, which is the best scenario possible. When the

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Speaker 1: line finally does, you know, block it up and they

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Speaker 1: get a hat on a hat, it's a touchdown, you know, Josh,

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Speaker 1: it's Davis on the right side. And then later on

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Speaker 1: he hits Digs on the right side of the same

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Speaker 1: exact look. So they got him out of that pressure.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of it had to do with the

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Speaker 1: offensive line getting it together and shoring it up. For

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Speaker 1: a while, they were sending too many guys for the

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Speaker 1: form to block. But Mitch Morris was a big part

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Speaker 1: of their pin and pull concepts last year. He's a

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Speaker 1: big part of being a primary pulling lineman this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's the sweep out to the right

447
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Speaker 1: on the Josh Hurdle play, Mitch Morse is out there

448
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: in front. Whether it's Devin Singletary on the play we

449
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Speaker 1: just watched with our MSG viewers, it's Mitch Morse that's

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Speaker 1: out there. He is their primary move guy, which isn't

451
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Speaker 1: an easy thing coming from the middle of the formation,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, getting out on the edges like that he

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Speaker 1: is really good at that, So yeah, I'll tip my

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Speaker 1: head to him. No problem there at all. Topic on

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Speaker 1: the table today, we're entering the Bills bye week. What

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Speaker 1: have we learned about the Bills through the first six

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. You let us know at eight

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Speaker 1: three five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty or on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones and we lead off with

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Speaker 1: Mark in Tonawanda. What do you got for us? Mark? Hey, guys, man,

462
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: you guys have fired off about the number of Broncos today.

463
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: Holy cow, I hate that whole franchise right now because

464
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Speaker 1: of you guys. They are awful. I can't even watch him.

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Speaker 1: But hey, I wanted to bring up um. I think

466
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Speaker 1: if you if we were to be critical of the

467
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Speaker 1: Bills and what to win on Sunday, um is the

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Speaker 1: play of Isaam McKenzie. I think that they jumped a

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Speaker 1: gun and give him the keys to that Cole Beasley

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00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: and he asked Crowder's hurt um, but he he's not

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00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: playing up. He had that drop in La that led

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Speaker 1: to that interception and missed that fourth down, the crucial

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Speaker 1: fourth down play down the stretch. Um. You know, these

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Speaker 1: plays are gonna count, and I don't trust them. And

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see maybe that's giving Shaqire more time

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Speaker 1: UM in that role and Crowder gets healthy. But I'm

477
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Speaker 1: interested to see what Brandon Dean does going up to

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Speaker 1: the deadline, UM to kind of maybe address that. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to listen. Thanks for having me on, guys. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I will say this. These are the for Mackenzie. This

481
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: is my opinion and my estimation. Mackenzie's main asset to

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Speaker 1: this offense is his speed. It's what gets him separation

483
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: things of that nature. He is not He's limited in

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Speaker 1: what he can offer this offense. To me, He's not

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Speaker 1: a guy that can line up outside. He's too small

486
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Speaker 1: a target and he would fall. It would make for

487
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Speaker 1: difficult throws for the quarterback, even won as good as

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I think as we move into the latter

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Speaker 1: stages of the season, it would not surprise me if

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Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir gets more and more time in the slot.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he completely takes the job away from

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Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

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Speaker 1: We know how this coaching staff works, Steve. They pick

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Speaker 1: everything apart with a fine tooth comb, and if players

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00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: earn more time on the field at the expense of

496
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Speaker 1: somebody else that maybe not be pulling as much weight

497
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: as he has in recent weeks, they will not hesitate

498
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: to make a change. Oh yeah, We've pounded on that

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Speaker 1: message throughout the offseason, and it's one of the reasons

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00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: this team has built, slowly built and methodically built and

501
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: played above where its talent says it should have played

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00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: year after year in the Sean McDermott era is because

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00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: he gives guys what they earn and nothing more, nothing less.

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Speaker 1: So if Isaiah McKenzie and the reason he's out there

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00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: is because he continues to do things in practice and

506
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: to be a part of the team that they warrant

507
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: gets the opportunities he gets. When that changes, you can

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00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: bet the snap council will change, but not until they do.

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Speaker 1: He's experienced this under the McDermott regime already. Last year

510
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Speaker 1: he got benched as the return man in favor of

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Speaker 1: Marquez Stevenson, a fifth round draft choice. He's facing the

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Speaker 1: same thing again in the slot is a fifth round

513
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: draft choice going to replace him now at the receiver position.

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Speaker 1: It could happen if he doesn't bounce back from I

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Speaker 1: think what even he would consider it down performance last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was yeah for him hit and miss last week.

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Speaker 1: The catching the end zone that he dropped on the

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Speaker 1: fourth down, Yeah, I'm surprised it didn't pull it in. Uh,

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00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: he lost his footing and it didn't look good. It

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00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: was a it was a miss play that and trying

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Speaker 1: to get him the football and during the on the

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Speaker 1: down and distance as well, he couldn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't a great game offensively

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Speaker 1: for the Bills because and you can tell that just

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Speaker 1: by you know, the score on the board, let alone

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Speaker 1: the you know the the play by play description of

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Speaker 1: who played well on what play. And Khalil Shakier did

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Speaker 1: get more time on the field last week, even with

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Mackenzie healthy. He obviously played that role. In Week

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Speaker 1: five against the Steelers, he was on the field a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. They rotated their receivers through a lot

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Speaker 1: more last week. Hodgens got some run, Shakier got some run.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting to see where that rotation

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Speaker 1: goes heading into the second half of the sea here's

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00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: got seventeen catches on the year, so you know you

536
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: can do the math. He's averaging under to a game.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to have more out of Kenzie McKenzie. I'm sorry,

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00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: McKenzie is, Yeah, so I'm you need more production. I

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Speaker 1: think he'd say this last game, and I'll say this too,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go And he did miss a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was out for a game. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that he was one hundred percent going into this game.

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Speaker 1: Certainly you need to be one hundred percent because he

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Speaker 1: was out with a concussion. He was in the protocols.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that affected his ability to prepare

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Speaker 1: to play well. And if that's an issue, you can say, Okay,

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00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's up to consider. Yeah, he's gonna

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00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: be in for better days going forward after he gets

549
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: this the concussion further and further in the rearview mirror

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00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: as well. Break time for us here, but we'll be

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00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: taking more of your phone calls on the other side

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: when we come back. What have we learned about the

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Speaker 1: Bills through the first six weeks of this season. You

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: let us know at eight three, five fifty. Got an

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00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: open line for you there or on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. We're back in a moment, all right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to one Bills Live. You're gonna get right

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Speaker 1: to the phones where we're asking you what have we

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Speaker 1: learned about the Bills to the first six weeks of

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Speaker 1: the season. You tell us at eight three fifty one

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Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty we lead off with Alex, who's

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Speaker 1: over the state line in Pennsylvania. What do you got

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Speaker 1: for us, Alex? H is Josh Allen with the hurdle

564
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs game. Is Josh Allen the best quarterback

565
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: you've ever seen in Bill's history? Uh? In Bill's history? Well,

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Speaker 1: you put him in a conversation with Jim. Jim's pretty

567
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: dang good. And he's in the Hall of Fame first. Yeah,

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to Yeah, he's the first ballot Hall of Famer. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what if if it makes you hesitate, I

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00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: guess he's in the conversations the conversation. Yeah, I mean

571
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: he's he's in a conversation with one other guy. I mean,

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00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: even Jim has said and Josh is this guys, it's

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Speaker 1: a little Yeah, he's got to do it for a

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00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: long time before he's in there with Jim. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the way he plays, I don't think the Bills have

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00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: ever had a quarterback play like he plays, running the

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00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: football and throwing it and all of that. So as

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Speaker 1: productive and putting together a whole career, certainly, Josh has

579
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: a ways to go to catch Jim. But playing the

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00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: way he plays, nobody's ever done that. And that's not

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00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: just in the Bills, that's in a ton of teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could put he's one of the two

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00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in football right now. He's playing. He's got this.

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Speaker 1: I always thought he was like a little bit like

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00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: John Elway big, that's who he reminded me of. Elway

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Speaker 1: didn't run like Josh runs. Elway ran, but he didn't

587
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: look like that. He didn't run like Josh. Um. Yeah,

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00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Josh is up there in the all time grades right now.

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00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: The way he's playing, now here's the thing. He's got

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Speaker 1: to do it for another longevit or seven, seven or

591
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: eight ten years. Longevity is the key, that's the difference.

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00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's in the conversation for playing as good

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00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: a footballs in quarterbacks ever played at this stretch. So

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00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: I'll say it's in the conversation. But you know, Jim

595
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: did it for a much much longer time, right, not

596
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: to mention in the USFL for a couple of years

597
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: with some ridiculous stats there, ridiculous stats. You ever see

598
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: that program they did on the Gambler's La Express game

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Speaker 1: between him and Steve Young. First of all, it was

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: an unbelievable game, but look it up on YouTube. Maybe

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00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: you can find it there. It was a treat man

602
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: watching that. Like, they had a lot of highlights from

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Speaker 1: the game. Number one, I think they each through for

604
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: like six touchdowns. They were both over four hundred yards passing.

605
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: It was a track meet with two Hall of famers. Yeah,

606
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: and then there was a bunch of NFL players league

607
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: folded a laundry list. Yeah, laundry list of guys who

608
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: came back over to the National Football League and started playing,

609
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: had really nice careers. So the coolest thing though about

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Speaker 1: that whole thing that I remember from that, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if I should call it a documentary. Whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. It was thirty thirty, Yeah, it was something

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Speaker 1: like that. The coolest thing was Jim says in sitting

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Speaker 1: in the chair doing the interview, and he said, or

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00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: maybe it was it was Steve Young. Steve Young says,

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Speaker 1: every time I see Jim Kelly, that is the first

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Speaker 1: thing we talked about that that game every time, the

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Speaker 1: first every time I see him, that's the first thing

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Speaker 1: we talked about. And I'm just like, that's got to

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Speaker 1: be pretty damn cool. Like you had. You got a

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Speaker 1: fella Hall of Famer you competed against, and it was

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00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: a barn burner of a game and it was that

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Speaker 1: memorable for both of you despite having storied career. Every

624
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: time you see Steve Young, that's the first thing I think.

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00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: That's so cool. It's uh, it's one of those games. Now.

626
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Speaker 1: And they had another, you know, Jim had another one

627
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Speaker 1: of those with Joe Montana and Sam Cisco Punk the

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Speaker 1: No Punk game that when there was eleven hundred yards

629
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Speaker 1: offense in that thing. I was there, had great seats

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Speaker 1: for that when I was standing right next to Marv

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Speaker 1: and it was it was unbelievable. Now, there were turnovers

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Speaker 1: in that game by both guys, but I remember this too.

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00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: It was the happiest. I was part of the kneel

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00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: down the victory formation. We won that game thirty four

635
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: thirty two or something like that, thirty four three, whatever,

636
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: and I was in the victory formation. We were out

637
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: in the huddle getting ready to kneel down for the

638
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: last time. And you know, I was never in the huddle, right,

639
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: I was a kick cutter at this point. I never

640
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: played wide out, and I was in there. And I'll

641
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: never forget how excited and how thrilled the office, like

642
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: Kent Hall, Will Woolford, Jim, they were giddy. They couldn't

643
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: We couldn't believe we went out into that place and

644
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: beat those because those guys were good. They well they

645
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: were they were the standard. They had already won the

646
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. We went to their place and lit

647
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: him up thirty four thirty one and beat him and

648
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: we're kneeling down at the end of the game. I'll

649
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: never forget how excited the great players on that Bill's

650
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: team were in that huddle just to have beaten that team.

651
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: It was fun. That was awesome. Yeah, those games you do,

652
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: they do stick with you, like you know, Jim and

653
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Yeah, that would stick with you. Yeah, let's

654
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: go back to the phones and to Dave in Florida. Next,

655
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: what do you got first, Dave, you're on one Bill's life.

656
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: He how you right? All right, listen, I just got

657
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: a question about Gilliam. Yeah, I think this guy could

658
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: be used more so. I think he's a great blocker

659
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: number one. I think it can receive the ball, you know, screenplay,

660
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: and I also believe he could be you know, I

661
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't see him that often on the field. Well,

662
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: actually he's been on the field quite a bit the

663
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Uh, they went twenty one. They

664
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: went twenty one personnel in that game. Early I chart

665
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: the place, So let me just run a first two

666
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: plays from scrimmage. He's on the field. They threw it

667
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: to him on the first play of the game, lost

668
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: a yard out. In the flat second play of the game,

669
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: they threw it to Gabe Davis. But he's on the

670
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: field in twenty one personnel. They ran three of the

671
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: first four plays, four of the first five plays twenty

672
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: one personnel. They came out in and they did that

673
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: all through the first half. Now, his time on the

674
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: field in the second half dwindled a little less twenty

675
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: one personnel more eleven. They love Reggie Gilliam. He just

676
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: signed a three year extension at the beginning of the year.

677
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: He's gonna be around, and they like his versatility when

678
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: they go twenty one because, as you said, Dan, he

679
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: can block. He's more athletic than I think. He gets

680
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: credit for his touchdown against Tennessee in Week two. That

681
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: was pretty special. He had to make a guy miss.

682
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: You know, the timing of that screenplay was all messed up,

683
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: and he made it work anyway. He scored a touchdoame,

684
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: broke a tackle and got the outside. Yeah, and I

685
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: get it too. I mean, Wenna Belial what Dan said.

686
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, everybody has their favorite guy they'd like

687
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: to see play more. Gillian is that for a lot

688
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: of people. But when you put him on the field,

689
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: the question is this, who are you taking off and

690
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: what's it mean when you do. That's the only question

691
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: there is. And it's usually a receiver. Yeah, it's got

692
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: to be it's it's gonna be Isaiah McKenzie or Khalil Shaker.

693
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: With a slot receiver. You're not taking Davis or Digs

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00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: off the field. And that I mean, certainly they could

695
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: be rotated through and doing some other stuff. But you know,

696
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: when you put Reggie Gilliam on, it's not a big deal.

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00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Who you taking off? Are you going to take knocks off?

698
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: And you know, sacrifice whatever that is in the running

699
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: game or his route running ability. So that's always, you know,

700
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: that's always what you're asking, Hey, Reggie. Yes, they like

701
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam. They got some package that plays in for

702
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: mem They threw him the first pass of the game,

703
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but somebody was on the sidelines and

704
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: he replaced somebody who that is has a lot to

705
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: do with why he's not out there more. Yeah, but

706
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: I think they are going to use him more and

707
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: more as the season wears on. They like that twenty

708
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: one personnel set and they will use it. Um. It's

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00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: clear to me, at least through the first six games,

710
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: they believe in it. Not as hey, this is our

711
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: bread and butter, but they like it. They like that

712
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: personnel grouping, and I think I would expect them to

713
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: run even more variations off it going forward. Well wait

714
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: and see, let's go to Butcher on the east Side.

715
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Butcher on One Bill's Life.

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00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: First of all, I want to say thank you so

717
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: much Steve Chris to One Bills Live w GSM. You

718
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: know I love you and I've always do. We just

719
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: lost We just lost him. He just completely dropped off.

720
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: I did not do any he was he was get

721
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: pumping our tires and you cut him off. No, I didn't.

722
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even touch anything. Okay, that was our guy's back. Okay,

723
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: all right, sorry about that, Butcher, but that was our

724
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 1: best call of the day and we snapped him off. Butch,

725
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he got clipped. I don't know what happened there. Um.

726
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta take a break here, but we'll

727
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: take more of your phone calls to say, what have

728
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: we learned about the Bills through the first six weeks

729
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: of this season. You can tell us at eight three fifty.

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00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: We'll try to get Butch back on when we return

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,160
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733
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Speaker 1: We got to get back to the phones. We have

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Speaker 1: your Buffalo Bills. All right, now we can get to

738
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: the phones and we can reconnect with Butch on the

739
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: east side. I don't know what happened, but it wasn't me.

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00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: That's okay, man. Listen. First of all, Steve Chris One

741
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: Bills live family, w JR. Family. You know. I love

742
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: you guys. You guys got my family. I want to

743
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: really talk about a few things, and not of respect,

744
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be long winded with it. First of all,

745
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about when have we learned so far about

746
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: our team? This I'm gonna say this, Steve, A long

747
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: time ago, when you was a second round pick coming

748
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: in NFL, you was hungry. When you came out of

749
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: the college you went to in the high school you

750
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: went too. You knew you could play, but you had

751
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: to get on the field and actually get your opportunity

752
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: and your reps to actually prove to these to your coach,

753
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: general manager, the ownership or whatever team you was in

754
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: Houston before you came to Buffalo, and you actually did it.

755
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: But so you had your mindset that you can play

756
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: today's kids. Now, I want to look at Evan who

757
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: answered the phone. Evan told me his age, and before

758
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Evan was born, we used to always talk, Brownie, when

759
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: you was building the Bill's digest, you already was phonary Brownie,

760
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: of what you had to do. You was writing, doing

761
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: your homework. Now look at you in the studios now,

762
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: these young kids. The process. When Brandon being first, he

763
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: had to gut this football team, he had to do

764
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: something like John Butler had to do back in the day.

765
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: Start building us in the draft, make a couple of trades,

766
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: add a couple of players, and move forward. Right now

767
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: with this team that we have, the process is what

768
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: we're looking at now. The process, the process of drafting

769
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: our players, signing our own players, building up. You haven't

770
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: seen anything yet, don't. We're not going to slot Josh

771
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: Allen and all these other players and rank them with

772
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: Kelly and all because you know why, we're not finish

773
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: it this year. Reality, we're supposed to be on our

774
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: second ship. We're supposed it went last year and wanted

775
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: ship if you to play Cincinnati and Buffalo and play

776
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the Rams. But now we are so right now we're

777
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy the process. Reason to use as for example,

778
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: avers twenty three and he's already ready ready to run

779
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: a studio at his age. You know what I'm standing

780
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: Back in the days, young kids wasn't ready like that.

781
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: These players coming out. This is why I don't be

782
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: surprised when I see all these rookie starting in the NFL.

783
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: They're coming in ready because the process of how they're

784
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: being trained and how ready they are. So let's enjoy that.

785
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say that point to y'all,

786
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: and this last point about OBJ coming to Buffalo, put

787
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: that on hold right now. We already have a process

788
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: as I'm speaking of, players has already been developed that's

789
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: ready to get opportunities. We can slight step big in

790
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: the slots you really want to. And even with Isaiah

791
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: Hodgens and I was like, oh shit, child outside and

792
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Now back to my man, Isaiah McKenzie,

793
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: and now thank you for your thanks for taking my call.

794
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: And Steve Chris, you guys been around a long time.

795
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: These young kids really don't understand about shell shot. When

796
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Jack Tatum and George Atkinson was playing, Steve, you remember this.

797
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: I said, you might have been young, but you remember

798
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: this when you take that hit coming across the Steve,

799
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: you know I saw you get knocked out a couple

800
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: of times, you'll start thinking about through two steps when

801
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: somebody thrown across the middle. I think Isaiah McKenzie's gonna

802
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: have to sit for a minute to get his mindset

803
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: straight because right now he's shell shot. And I think

804
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: in crucial situations like we saw in Kansas City, when

805
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: we need that play, I'm a confidence right now, isaias not?

806
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: So I will do that. But anyway, thanks so much.

807
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Take Michael, I love each and every one of you,

808
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: and y'all have a great day, and y'all take here.

809
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: Thanks the call, Yeah, he was. I was a great call.

810
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: A lot in there. The mindset, You're right, it is

811
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: part of the thing and we talk about it all

812
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: the time. We had a conversation on earlier in the

813
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: show that these guys get on the field because they

814
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: earned it on the field. Yeah, Guys like James Cook,

815
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: who has been limited so far in the first six

816
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: games of the season. We haven't seen him, you know,

817
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: a couple of reps a game. That's it. Ye. People

818
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: are clamoring for more him. Khalil Shaker got on the

819
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: field a little bit due to injury. Now he's back off.

820
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: You know, and Isaiah McKenzie got kind of plugged in. Now,

821
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: he did get a couple of reps. But you know,

822
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: we're some people are clamoring and we're all curious to

823
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: see how they'll play when they get more opportunities. It

824
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: doesn't happen until they earn it, until they work for it,

825
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: until they, you know, yeah, prove that they deserve it.

826
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: The number one quality it's any coach looks for in

827
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: a player is the ability to trust them on the field.

828
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Can I trust you to execute no matter the situation,

829
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: no matter the circumstance, no matter the atmosphere. And if

830
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: you can convince your coach that he can trust you,

831
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the field. Yeah, that's how you

832
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: earn time on the field. Be so good in practice

833
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: every single snap that he has no choice but to

834
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: trust you and believe in you. Because that's what coaches

835
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: want out on the field. They don't want to put

836
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: guys out there were like, well, I wonder if I'm

837
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna get what I need out of him today. They

838
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: want to know, and if they know, they'll you'll be

839
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: on the field. It's as simple as that. And that's

840
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: from youth sports all the way up to pro It

841
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: doesn't change. Coaches want to know they can trust you

842
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: out on the field. Yeah, and at the pro level

843
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: sometimes they get sidetracked by the amount of And you've

844
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: seen this in the past, although you haven't seen it

845
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo since being a McDermott here where a guy

846
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: will be making a big contract and he plays no

847
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: matter what, or high draft high draft choice plays no

848
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: matter what. None of that stuff matters, didn't matter. It's

849
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: proven time and time again, most notably this year when

850
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: Christian Benford ends up being the starting corner opposite Dane

851
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: Jackson as a sixth round draft choice, as a sixth

852
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: round draft pick for a team who had in the

853
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: same draft class a first round draft pick. You don't

854
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: see that happen. And that is a strong, clear, unmistakable

855
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: message about the process, and you can't. It cannot be ignored.

856
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: And it no message plays as loud and clear as

857
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: that message. Let's squeeze one one before the break. Here

858
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: we go to Ray and Rochester next. What do you

859
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: got first? Ray or Almond Bill's Live? Hi, guys, thanks

860
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: for taking my callum? What have I learned? A third

861
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: way through the season? Three quick things? One what you

862
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: were just referencing with Benford or someone talked about Gilly

863
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: m or Hodgens. One thing I've learned is, Wow, we

864
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: haven't had this much depth and so long. I went

865
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: to my first game in nineteen sixty three and I'm

866
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: still sort of shocked that, wait the bills are you know?

867
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: So that's great. Second thing is I've learned is, boy

868
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: has Josh learned to throw a beautiful deep ball? Remember

869
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: when that was a problem. And the last thing is

870
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried and I once your guys's thoughts

871
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: about strategic football at the at the end of the

872
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: game when there's a minute or less left. I know

873
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: it's been rehearsed already about what happened at the end

874
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: of the first half on Sunday, an exact repetition of

875
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: the last game last year. You know that we are

876
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: deep be faded to the outside so the Kansas City

877
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: receiver couldn't run out of bounds and stop the clock.

878
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: So they just threw for twenty yards slightly inside, then

879
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: quick ten yards to Kelsey. That's exactly what happened last time. Yeah,

880
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: and I agree with the guy yesterday because I thought

881
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: of this. You know, at the end of last year,

882
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: why isn't it they assigned someone at least just to Kelsey,

883
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: following him down the line at the staff of the ball.

884
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Just hold him, you know, five yards and five seconds

885
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: and do it again. That's all you have to do.

886
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: But the third thing is related to that is the

887
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the strategy that we might lose a

888
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: playoff game or a super Bowl by three points because

889
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: of it. The end of the Baltimore game, there's been

890
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, high flying, high high fighting

891
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: about how they handled the end of that game. Remember

892
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: they ran it down to what three seconds or two

893
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: seconds or something. They kicked the field goal, did not

894
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: score the touchdown on purpose. Yeah, but oh my god,

895
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: that's it's basic. You don't do that. You run it

896
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: down to like ten seconds because they still had a timeout.

897
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: It's a kicks blocked, You get a time out, you

898
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: try again. Oh dear, Well, if the kicks blocked, if

899
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: the kicks blocked, you have to come down with it

900
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: and possess it. And if there's it, and I think

901
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: Ray's arguing he just wanted a little more time left

902
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: on the clock. So if your kick did get blocked

903
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: and you can recover it or something if you bobble

904
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: the snap. It did kick it on third down, but

905
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: they waited until there were three seconds left to call timeout,

906
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: so it basically gave them one shot to kick it. Now,

907
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: it's a twenty one yard field goal. I mean, in essence, Ray,

908
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: I understand what your point is there, like, leave yourself

909
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: enough time to kick it again. But it's a twenty

910
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: one yard field goal. And you got one of the

911
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: most accurate kickers in football, right, Yeah, yeah, I get

912
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: that a little bit of splitting hairs for me, But

913
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: as long as if you're going to go up by

914
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: three to do that, you're leaving them a chance. You're

915
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: leaving them a chance to win the game. Yeah, when

916
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to, you're putting pressure on yourself to

917
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: make a kick. But that's gonna be there anyway, right,

918
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: And it's twenty one yards. It's a twenty one yard

919
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: field goal. I'll say this. Last night, I think it's

920
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: a gimme. I'll say this last night. The Denver Broncos

921
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: made a buffoon of a mistake as well. They got

922
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: to the Chargers have a kicker who can hardly kick

923
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: because he hurt himself. He's been gutting it out. I

924
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: call a very late time out. Let him kick it once,

925
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: see if he can hurt himself even further before I

926
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: let him kick it for real. They didn't. They didn't

927
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: ice the guy with a time out left. Huge mistake.

928
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: Huge mistake. Break time for us here. When we return,

929
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined by the Hall of Famer Thurman.

930
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: Thomas coming in as he does on Tuesdays to talk Bills.

931
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: We'll find out what he feels he has learned about

932
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: this team through the first six weeks of the season.

933
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: It's Therman coming up next here on One Bill's Live

934
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: presented by collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio is

935
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Callida Health. Our number two

936
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday where it is raining cats and

937
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: dogs in Orchard Park. Chris Brown seat Tasker with you

938
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Famer, Therm and Thomas joining us.

939
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: How you doing, Therm, I'm doing great. Congratulations. We saw

940
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: your lovely wife putting stuff out on Instagram. You guys

941
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: are expecting twin grand babies. Is this true? Yes, it

942
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: is very true. Very Taken after the Tasker's now he's

943
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: going on we get rid a half four by next mate.

944
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's already at seven. Well that's why you're

945
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: not far behind two or three kids that haven't started.

946
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: You haven't even started it. Yeah, you bro, congratulation that

947
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate Angel and Matt. They're they're gonna be great Paris,

948
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: great Paris. Uh, we've had some calls in the first hour,

949
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: So I want to dovetail off of what they've been

950
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: talking about with respect to Buffalo's personnel usage and some

951
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: of the stuff we saw up front on the old

952
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: line this past week against Kansas City Therm twenty one

953
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: personnel with Reggie Gilliam. It's clear that Ken Dorsey likes

954
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: that personnel grouping because he's used it almost every single week.

955
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: And uh, they signed Reggie to a contract extension right

956
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: before the year three year extension. He's part of the

957
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: plan going forward here. So just first your early thoughts

958
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: on their usage of twenty one personnel and some of

959
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: the things they're able to do with that that might

960
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: be not your mom and dad's twenty one personnel, Right,

961
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: It's it's a little more advanced now with as athletic

962
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: as Reggie is, right, right exactly, and he takes it.

963
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: He takes it even further. But if you look at

964
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: around the league over the last what fifteen twenty years,

965
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: nobody pays a tennis to the fullback. Nobody. I mean,

966
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: Reggie Gelon can probably have many touchdowns is butch roll

967
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Head catching ten passes down on the goal line ten touchdown.

968
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: They never covered a fullback in the flat. They have

969
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: been covered him for thirty five years since I've been

970
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: watching football. He's always open all the time. But him

971
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: being athletic as he is, he's a threat on the

972
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 1: field and he can block. He can be seen that. Yeah,

973
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: he can block. Here's here's the question though, and I

974
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: brought this up just a minute ago. Somebody's got to

975
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: come off the field. Yeah, it's usual. Later received who

976
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: do you take off the field? I mean, well, I

977
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: mean you're gonna have Digs and Gabe out there, right, yeah,

978
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: and knocks that's it. I mean you're good. I think

979
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: you're still good. You still have weapons, yeah, I mean

980
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: you you take give them off the field and put

981
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: the wibers. I mean it's just I'm looking at this

982
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: offense and I'm just really liking how everybody's involved. Obviously

983
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna have games where Digs is gonna have ten, nine,

984
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: ten eleven catchers or whatever. But I mean on this

985
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: top side of that, you know you're gonna have Gabe

986
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: Davis catching two or three touchdown. So I give my

987
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: hat off to this Ken Dorsey and this offensive group.

988
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: They've done a great job the first six games of

989
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: just mixing everything. Now you just can't look at the

990
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: level of person. You gotta look at it all now, yeah,

991
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it all more to prepare for,

992
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: more to prepare for. And I think that's what kind

993
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: of like Ken Dorsey. Now he's putting stamp on that.

994
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean that Razie Gillen at this point, it's probably

995
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: played more this year than he did that. I would say, yes, right, yes,

996
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. So he sees something in that, and uh,

997
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: I love it that he's up. How do you think

998
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: and if you think in the future and what teams

999
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: are looking at there saying okay, we gotta go, we

1000
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: gotta prash against all this, how does that manifest itself

1001
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: on the field down the road when all these teams

1002
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: are preparing for all this, and then you get him

1003
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: with what you're really gonna do. How does that? I mean,

1004
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: what's that look like? And what gains can we just

1005
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: as as observers yet, because I know Ken Dorsey's up

1006
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: there trying to figure out how he's going to get

1007
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: an edge down the road as well. So he's got

1008
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, Gilliam coming on the field. He's playing him

1009
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: a certain percentage, These guys a certain percentage. Why what's

1010
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: the what do they expect to get out of those analytics? Well?

1011
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: I think I think if you have him on the

1012
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: football field, obviously you're gonna have more film to watch him.

1013
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's a long season. Coming off

1014
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: the bye week, I don't know what we might see.

1015
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: We might not even see Richard Gilaman anymore. I don't know, right,

1016
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: But that's the element of surprised, like Okay, you've maybe

1017
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: been I see him for a couple of games and boom,

1018
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: there he is. That can be It can be very

1019
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: in a very important game, uh down the stretch, and

1020
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: teams will probably look at that and be like, oh,

1021
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: they've been doing this so much and they focus in

1022
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: on what they're doing and all of a sudden, Gilliam

1023
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: comes out there and they'd be like, oh what was

1024
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: this word? At this couple? We haven't seen this in

1025
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: the last four or five games? Is where we treating this?

1026
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: Guys are running back? Yeah yeah, so I mean it's

1027
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: uh I love what he's doing once again, and uh yeah,

1028
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: continue to do whatever he's done everything right? What what

1029
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: do you think is the biggest thing that you learned

1030
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: about this team through the first six games, this version

1031
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: of this Bill's team. What what stands out to you

1032
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: through the first six weeks that you said, you know what,

1033
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: I really didn't. I really hadn't had them pegged to

1034
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: be this. I really didn't, especially with like all the

1035
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: injuries that they've had. I'm not even given to the players.

1036
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: It's the scouting department and Brandon being and what he

1037
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: has done to bring all these guys in. And I

1038
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: think I maybe said that last week or two weeks ago.

1039
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Those guys have been very instrumental of what they're doing

1040
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: right now. As much as I want Michael Hyde to

1041
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: be out there, obviously with the neck injury, he's not

1042
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: been able to perform. You know what, I wouldn't say

1043
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: we're better, but we're right on the cusp of that.

1044
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean but so if he played the

1045
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: depth depth present team exactly. I mean, just think about this.

1046
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: If you're the Bills right now and vomit. Let's say

1047
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: you want to get hurt, but somebody's going to step up.

1048
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: They have stepped up, and now to come in this

1049
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: week with the bye week, everybody's getting healthy. Oh my god,

1050
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a trade white back. I mean yeah,

1051
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: but I say that this makes this seem so much stronger.

1052
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: And now that these guys are getting healthier, I mean,

1053
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips is probably loving like, Okay, I get a

1054
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: week to rest his hamstring right now. Yeah, and I

1055
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: get that too, But there's no guarantees that we don't

1056
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: have another two weeks like we did between you know,

1057
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: Miami and Tennessee where you got a nineteen guy. You know,

1058
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: seven guys going down again. But you never know, right

1059
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: it is, but it happens twice in a season probably, Yeah,

1060
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean think about I mean, you've seen other teams

1061
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: have it. Yeah, So I'm just saying you can't predict

1062
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, but even so, you're right, I mean

1063
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: you feel like, okay, just go back plug the guy

1064
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: back in. Let's go, Um, what about the way this

1065
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: season rolls now, it's kind of we were having this

1066
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: conversation it looked like the first seven games of the

1067
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: season through Week eight, because we got to buy this.

1068
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Through the Green Bay game, we were looking like, okay,

1069
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: just come out of here. Four and three, right, were

1070
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: four and three? You know five and two would be awesome, right? Yes,

1071
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: well here they say six and one, and now you're

1072
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: looking it's like, well, you know, the rest of the

1073
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: schedule isn't just isn't really a gimme. The Jets aren't

1074
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: a gimme. They got a top ten defense, right, the Jets.

1075
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: Look now, the Jets defense there right. So the point is,

1076
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, we thought the last ten games or eleven

1077
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: games of the season, we're gonna be ah, We're all right,

1078
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna go ten and oh, finish it up. But

1079
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: the Jets look different. The Browns are still talented. The

1080
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: Patriots they're gonna they're gonna cheat and steal one from

1081
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: us somehow somewhere. Um, all of that. So, and we

1082
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: got the Bengals late on Monday night on the road,

1083
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: So we got eleven games left. Yes, the Vikings look

1084
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: like nine out of the ten after the nine out

1085
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: of eleven. Yeah, nine out of the eleven. Yeah, there

1086
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: you go. Right, you think we're going seven to one

1087
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: with the Packers this next two weeks? Oh yeah, all right,

1088
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: so we're gonna go So we're gonna go fifteen. So

1089
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna fifteen and two, fourteen, fourteen to three. Yeah,

1090
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: because you got one loss on the record already, fourteen

1091
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: and three, number one seed by a couple of games,

1092
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: right there. All right, I'll sign up for that. And yeah,

1093
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: the Bills get their third MVP Guy of the season.

1094
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: Josh right, Okay, there you go. I got it all

1095
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: mapped up. Apparently, apparently, thanks for stopping buying letting because

1096
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean this this is a really

1097
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: really good football team. Yeah. They don't make a lot

1098
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: of mistakes. They don't make a lot of mistakes. Yeah yeah,

1099
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: from every single game. About injuries, I'm talking about like

1100
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: bad penalty. Yes, they have turned they have turned the

1101
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: ball over, turn the ball over some they're they're up

1102
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: near the top of the league. And turnovers. They got

1103
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: to clean that up. They got to clean that up.

1104
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: But hey, I'm taking my chances with this team. Oh yeah,

1105
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: tell you that right now. Yeah, because they could they

1106
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: could score thirty. Have you watched any of the Eagles them,

1107
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: I really haven't watched a whole lot, but they are.

1108
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: They're like plus twelve in the turnover margin. They're running

1109
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: the hell out of the ball. Yeah, they're throwing the

1110
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: heck out of the ball down maybe not throwing maybe.

1111
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: See that's where that's where you separate the difference right there.

1112
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Passing touchdowns. I was somebody was saying that to me

1113
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: the other day. You got six pass and touchdown. Now,

1114
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: you dude, you're gonna have to get at least four

1115
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: or five when you play us. It's just it's just

1116
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: how it is. And hey live them. Yeah. I haven't

1117
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: seen enough of them yet to know exactly what they are,

1118
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: but they're the number you know what, I have? Number

1119
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: three offense in football, the number four defense in football,

1120
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: fourth and scoring six and points a lot. I haven't

1121
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: seen a lot of anything in the National Football but

1122
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: because I pretty much basically watched the Bills and pretty

1123
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: much that will be the recipe highlights. Yeah, the strength

1124
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: and even the Bills at five and one, the strength

1125
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: of victory wins, they're five points. That's up. The teams

1126
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: they've beaten have a winning record um Philly it's less

1127
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: than five hundred four point four five seven. So they're

1128
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: also on the NFC. They're in the NFC East, and

1129
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: but I'll say Giants are five in Washingdallas. They got

1130
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: three teams in the NFC in the NFC East. Three

1131
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: of those teams are in the playoff hunt right now.

1132
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs if it's you know what I mean.

1133
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: So they're at the top of the NFC, all three

1134
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: of them. So it's been a tough it's a tough

1135
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a tough division to win,

1136
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: which it wasn't for a long time. I don't know

1137
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: how good the Giants really are, but they're not beating themselves.

1138
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: They are not, No, they are not. And it's with

1139
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: the NFC right here. It's probably going to see right

1140
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: there when you get down here to like eight and nine,

1141
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: Green Band, Atlanta kind of everybody kind of yeah. I

1142
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: mean you name one of those teams that you think

1143
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna jump right, yeah, I get Saddle three and three,

1144
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta three and three, Green Bay three and three. All right, Okay,

1145
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: green Bay maybe because they got Aaron and maybe they'll

1146
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: figure something out and find somebody who who they can

1147
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: start winning some games with. And they are still in

1148
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: a division with Chicago and Detroit. Forget about Minnesota. Chicago

1149
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: and Detroit are horrible. Minnesota is an enigma. Yeah, because

1150
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: I looked a little closer at their game last week

1151
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, which they won, got a defensive touchdown,

1152
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: they win twenty four to sixteen. Yeah, they punted ten

1153
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: times in that game. Well, they don't turn it over obviously,

1154
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but that's a lot of punts. I

1155
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: gotta look it up again and make sure. Yeah, I

1156
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: mean yeah, yes, Um they are thrown a little more

1157
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: with their new head coach. Um, so there's that. But yeah,

1158
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: let me make sure. I want to make sure I

1159
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: have this right. But I thought that's what I saw punting.

1160
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry, Oh no, he did ten punts.

1161
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Ten punts, so Steve. They win the game twenty four

1162
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: to sixteen against the backup quarterback and Teddy Bridgewater who

1163
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: filled in for the third stringer who went out with

1164
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: it injury. And I looked at their possessions, Okay, the

1165
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, why what the heck are they doing punting

1166
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: ten times? I'm not joking. I'm not joking. Ten three

1167
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: and ounce. So they didn't just punted ten times. They

1168
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: had ten three an ounce. That team's five and one. No,

1169
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: the Vikings. The Vikings punted, they had punted. Oh this

1170
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: is yeah. They pun ten wow, ten three ounce, ten

1171
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: three and outs and they won. You know what, I'm

1172
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna go stand. I don't know if that beer. I

1173
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: don't know if that says less about the Vikings offense

1174
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: or less about how bad you're watching the team go

1175
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: ten three and ouns man, I am going for a beer,

1176
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stand there and scroll through social media

1177
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: while fantasy team. They couldn't even couldn't even break it

1178
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: up and go go for it on fourth down. Well

1179
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: now you know, but now you know why they had

1180
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: enough time in the game to put them ten times.

1181
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: I kept going three and outs. I'm sick. I'm sick

1182
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: of it. Let's just go for it more than ten.

1183
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't care. Just cross them up. This is a

1184
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: ninth part. I think we go Oh my gosh, they

1185
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: ten three. So their only touchdown came when they got

1186
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: down to Miami one yard line. Pounds. They were two

1187
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: of twelve on third down. Steve How do they score

1188
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: seven sixteen points? How are they five and one? Yes,

1189
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. Miami's got a good deep,

1190
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 1: pretty good defensive group. But ten three and outs, Oh

1191
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: my gosh, I mean, I'm gonna playing Gunner? Was Steve

1192
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: dude to put it? To put it in perspective? Do

1193
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: you remember the awful two thousand and nine game here

1194
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: between the Browns and and the Bills. There were sixteen

1195
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: total punts in that game? Minnesota had ten by themselves.

1196
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: There were sixteen. Yeah, there was sixteen in that game,

1197
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: and they're sixteen in this game. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

1198
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is that unbelievable. I feel a whole

1199
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: lot better about the Vikings game now. It's like, oh,

1200
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins had twenty three eleven, So how did they win

1201
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: that game? They had a defensive touchdown and then they

1202
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: had one offensive So what else? I think that was

1203
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: the defensive touchdown? Um, and there was no defensive It

1204
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: was an interception, but they didn't take it bad? Then

1205
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, Miami missed a field goal, and they

1206
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: did have three takeaways, a fumble recovery and two interceptions.

1207
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: Of course, what did they do with those they got

1208
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: three points out of three takeaways. The other two surprise, surprise,

1209
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: they punted man man. And and here's the other thing too.

1210
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: We talk about the law of averages all the time

1211
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You remember all those close games Minnesota

1212
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: lost last year and they missed the playoffs because of

1213
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: this year, they're winning all those games. So they beat

1214
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: the Lions by four, the Saints by three, the Bears

1215
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: by seven, and then the Dolphins by eight yesterday. Those

1216
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: are the four of their five wins are by one score.

1217
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: So they're winning all those one score games that they

1218
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: were losing last year. And they're five and one in

1219
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: the Bills at one point, were you say, oh, we're

1220
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: at eight and one score games. Yeah, well it's the

1221
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: same record, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were talking

1222
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: about this because you know, the Vikings are coming here, yeah,

1223
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: and in the second half, in the second half of

1224
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: the season, November thirteenth week, and they you know, the

1225
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: four and one right now, five and five and one

1226
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: right now, it's just like the Bills are and you're thinking, Okay,

1227
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: that may be one of the games that at the

1228
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: beginning of the year we thought, nah, that's a win

1229
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: for the Bills and you think maybe not, and then

1230
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: you look at it, it's like, yeah, you need to

1231
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: beat those jokers. Well if they if they punt ten times,

1232
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: we are beating them. Yeah, that's true. The only the

1233
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: only true with our offense, that's true. Our offense is

1234
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: not punting at ten time. So looking at the teams

1235
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: that they've played times in six games, Looking at the

1236
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: teams that they've played, I don't think any of them

1237
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: are over five hundred right now, Green Bay, Detroit, New Orleans, Chicago, Miami.

1238
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: Those are their five wins. The one loss to Philadelphia

1239
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, they weren't even in the game.

1240
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: So when they got to play top tier they have

1241
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: a problem. M Oh, that's when Kirk Cousins becomes Kirk Cousins. Yeah.

1242
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: I think he threw for one hundred and seventy yards

1243
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: in that game that they beat the Dolphins through for

1244
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy yards. Healthy. Are we're going

1245
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: to beat the next game? Really healthy? Really healthy? Right? Team?

1246
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: Steve and I Steve, and we're not going this around

1247
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: on the podcast therm because people are wondering, like when

1248
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: do they activate Trey White. We know that they have

1249
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: to make a decision. Buy November thirst first, that's the

1250
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: last day that he can be practicing and still on

1251
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: reserve pup. They have to make a decision. You know

1252
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: when they're gonna activate him. Do you think he's on

1253
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: the active roster and dresses for the Packers game in

1254
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: Week eight coming out of the buy? Oh? Man, that's

1255
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: that's that's just a day or two before the game.

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: I thought no. I thought they might activate him, but

1257
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: they won't play him, And I think the first time

1258
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: we'll see him will be the next game against the Jets.

1259
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: He thinks Jets. I think he gets I think he's

1260
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: active and on the fifty three man roster. I don't

1261
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: think he starts, but I think he plays against the Packers.

1262
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: I think they put him on like a pitch count

1263
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Well, you think they'll I think they'll

1264
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: ease him back into it. Yeah. I think that's a

1265
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: good call by Brownie. I think they bring him big,

1266
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: because what do you think? That's why we're asking what

1267
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: do you think I think they wait, I'm gonna think

1268
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna say that they're gonna wait. I mean,

1269
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: they don't have to rush. You don't have to rush it.

1270
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: But because the defense made good, they're playing well. Green

1271
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: Bay is coming here. I mean it's and Rogers doesn't

1272
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: have any wide receiver. That's why I thought they got

1273
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: running game and out there against the rookies. You're right,

1274
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: put him out there against the rookies. But it's just

1275
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: another week to get him. Heal there and just like

1276
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: what Jordan Porter didn't play the Pittsburgh game, ye just

1277
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: got him resh. You know, they don't need to rush him.

1278
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: You're right about that, um, And I know he's anxious

1279
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: to get out there. He's got to be climbing to

1280
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: this guy. I saw him to day of going to

1281
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: get his surgery. He had to fly somewhere and I

1282
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: was on the same flight as he was, and you

1283
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: can just see like I can't believe this happened to me.

1284
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: This is this is because it's almost like he never

1285
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: been hurt before, which I think that might have been

1286
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: a part of it. He had not missed the game,

1287
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: is in his career and you're talking about college shoe

1288
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: and and so I know, I know he's anxious to

1289
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: get back out there, but I mean so sor right,

1290
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: So your your money's on waiting another week waiting another week.

1291
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: So what do you think Week nine? The Jets game,

1292
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: Jet's game, Jets game, yep, obviously, Yeah, I go to

1293
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: Jets game. All right? So who does Green Bay play

1294
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: before or do they have a bye because they could

1295
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: come in here and playing the Bears or somebody the

1296
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: Commanders washing. Okay, so they're four and three there. Yeah,

1297
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: but we don't want him a little healthy, give him

1298
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: a little confidence or whatever. Feel better, make him feel

1299
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: better and come here and see what it's gonna be like.

1300
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: Somewhere is a Sunday night game. It is Sunday, Sunday

1301
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: night game. So yeah, crime time, prime time. You know

1302
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: I was, I was getting a little nostalgic there, I tho.

1303
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, you introduced the defense Sunday night football. You

1304
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: save Trey for last, it comes out last, and you

1305
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,919
Speaker 1: know like that. Maybe not, maybe I went to Hollywood.

1306
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: My prediction. You don't want you don't want to see

1307
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: you want the you want the This is great because

1308
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: the Packers are gonna beat the stew out of the

1309
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders and that won't given to think everything's okay. Yeah,

1310
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: they have two straight losses right now, so you don't

1311
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: want him coming in with a three straight Yeah, because

1312
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: then they might actually lose player play hard, Son might

1313
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: play hard. Who who's the commander? QB Taylor? Heide is

1314
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna be O, He's not. Where's the game Green Bay?

1315
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: Or it is at Washington? Oh okay, Yeah, the old

1316
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: raucous crowd in Washington. Too many things going on with

1317
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: the commander. They got they got some some issues on

1318
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: in off the field. It's just not good. But you

1319
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: just think about it back in the day, this is

1320
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: one of the modeled franchises. Yes, when Joe Gibbs was there. Yeah,

1321
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: they were always always competitive, always, and now it's just

1322
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: been totally flipped upside down. Yeah, and we can all

1323
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: have our laundry list of reasons why, because there are several.

1324
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: We'll let that sit where it sits because something tells

1325
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 1: me the league will be taking care of that. Actually,

1326
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: the owners are meeting today in New York and there

1327
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: are rumblings that that might be discussed among smaller breakout groups,

1328
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, what to do with Snyder Son. I wonder,

1329
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: I wonder, I really wonder where that goes, though, guys,

1330
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: because they've got to be some owners, because first of all,

1331
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: you gotta get twenty four out of thirty two owners

1332
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: to vote that way if it even And they're not

1333
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: voting on anything like that on Snyder at the meetings

1334
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: this weekend, but I imagine there'll be some discussions. Do

1335
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: do you think there are some owners that would worry

1336
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: that it would set a bad precedent, like, oh, man,

1337
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: if they can bounce this guy, you know what skeletons

1338
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: do I have in my closet? Like could they bounce

1339
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: me too? I wonder if there's some of that at

1340
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: play there too. Well, we saw we saw the story

1341
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,440
Speaker 1: last week that was talking about how he's got secrets

1342
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: on owners and I've done private invet. I got private

1343
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: investigators following Goodell around, you know, to try to have

1344
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: dirt on him. And I'm gonna out everybody if you

1345
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: get rid of me. You know that kind of thing? Right?

1346
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: Do we buy that? Or is that just bluster? I

1347
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, I mean, if you're the kind of

1348
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: guy that would say that, you're probably the kind of

1349
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: guy that would pull the trigger if you wanted to,

1350
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean and launches campaign

1351
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: of that. If you're threatening to fight dirty, that means

1352
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: you're prepared to fight dirty. Yeah, it means it's in

1353
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: your DNA and if and if he's doing I'm gonna

1354
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: be thirty one. Well maybe, but I've never heard good

1355
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: things from about him, so yeah, I mean, I don't know.

1356
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: The reputation is the only thing I know is that

1357
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,480
Speaker 1: he rules with an iron fist down there. Yeah, and anybody,

1358
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: and here's any story. Van Miller took full advantage of that.

1359
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: So Van and Murph are trying to get into the

1360
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: stadium close enough because Van was getting older, you know,

1361
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: and he can't walk far. In the media parking that

1362
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: you get is like a mile from the stadium. So

1363
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: Van's like, we gotta get the best scene. So he's

1364
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: he's telling her pull right up here to this guy

1365
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: at the gate, pull right up to the front. All right,

1366
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: it's not where we're supposed to park, but okay, pulls up.

1367
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: They roll down the window, and you know, Van just

1368
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: turns on the charm and he said, and if you

1369
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: have a problem with me parking here, you can tell

1370
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: mister Snyder that you didn't let me park here and

1371
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: he could take care of it. And the guy's like, okay,

1372
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: go right. Worked like a chart. Parking right in front yes,

1373
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: right this way. What you're saying, your name was van

1374
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: mister Miller right here, right park right. He's a classic.

1375
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: That is the best therm. Thanks for stopping in, man, right,

1376
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Enjoy y'all. Bye week, Yes you too? Will

1377
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: you two to do anything special? Yeah? No, just kicking

1378
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: back and just get him back. Watching college football and

1379
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: hope you can get out cooys. How the Cowboys doing.

1380
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: They just lost the TCU last week. Oh it's a

1381
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: good team though. TCU is a good team. Yeah, they

1382
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: dropped from eighth to eleven. Yeah, be all right, Yeah

1383
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: it'd be all right, folks. Man, they got next. I

1384
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: don't know. I won't know until when it shows up. Man. Wow,

1385
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: let's oh okay, yeah, let me let me see if

1386
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: that's on. We're getting that game, all right, thurm Thanks.

1387
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you next week. Alight. That's Thurman Thomas,

1388
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer here with us on one Bills Live.

1389
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: Will take a break, take more of your phone calls

1390
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 1: when we return, we'll see in two minutes. The Buffalo

1391
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: Bills and add Pro Sports are teaming up to award

1392
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: varsity football coaches with the Coach of the Week award

1393
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: Week seven winners. In Buffalo Region Section six, it's Maryvale

1394
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: head coach Nick Dadaro after he led his Flyers to

1395
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: a thirty five nineteen win over oly End last week.

1396
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: Maryville clinged the B two Division regular season title with

1397
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: the win and improved to an undefeated seven and oh.

1398
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: In Section five, Rochester Region coach of the Week is

1399
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: Monroe High schools Terrell Cunningham. His team defeated the number

1400
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: eight ranked Class B team HFL twenty six to seven,

1401
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: giving them their first loss of the season. Each Coach

1402
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: of the Week winner gets a one thousand dollars grant

1403
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: from the Buffalo Bills and add Pro Sports. Good job coaches.

1404
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: We got to get back to the phones, as we've

1405
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: been asking you today, what have we learned about the

1406
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: Bills through the first six weeks of the season. You

1407
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: let us know. At eight oh three, five fifty, we

1408
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: go to a patiently waiting Elton in Rochester. What do

1409
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: you got for us? Elton? You're on one bills live Elton?

1410
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you talking to us? You're talking to

1411
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: somebody else? Talking to somebody else? Hello, Hey, what do

1412
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: you got for us? You're on the air? Are you

1413
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: how about you, guys. I'm so sorry for all I

1414
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 1: know you've been waiting a while. We get it. Yeah,

1415
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: I have a question for you Brownie and you two.

1416
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: Steve Um. I was I've been hearing a lot of things,

1417
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: and I know we've been playing some really great football,

1418
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: but I running Grahame hasn't been that good, even though

1419
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: Mota had a good game Sunday. But I've been hearing

1420
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: some talks about a trade, maybe possibly uh Carolina with

1421
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: for McCaffrey and maybe James Cook involved with a second

1422
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: round and a fourth round of this year or some

1423
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: other stuff that is that possible? Is it just a ruler.

1424
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: I think it's just a rumor, and certainly anything's possible,

1425
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know that they are willing to now.

1426
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: I like Christian McCaffrey. He's a great player, no question

1427
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: about it. He's been a little bit fragile over the

1428
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: last couple of years. He's making a big amount of money.

1429
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: I think the fact that his contract is structured right

1430
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: now so that it'll be advantageous to get him if

1431
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: you can get him. But a last report I heard

1432
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: was that Carolina was looking for literally I heard this

1433
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: over the airwaves Carolina is looking for multiple first round

1434
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: draft picks for Christian McCaffrey, and that is an absolute

1435
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: positive non starter for me if I'm any kind of

1436
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: if I'm a team. So he is in a position

1437
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: contract wise to be attractive because you can get out

1438
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: of the contract at the end of the year and

1439
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: you can rent him for like maybe a six or

1440
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: seven eight hundred thousand dollars. But he's such a good

1441
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: player that you know, Caroline's not gonna let him go

1442
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: for anything less than a king's ransom. It seems like

1443
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: at this point the troubling thing for me is I'm

1444
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: not paying for as soon to be twenty seven year

1445
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: old running back who played in three games in twenty

1446
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven games in twenty twenty one, and thus far

1447
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: he's played in six. You know, he's been okay this year,

1448
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: although he had a thigh issue but played. The injury

1449
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: history bothers me a lot, especially at the biggest collision

1450
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: position in the sport, which is running back. So I

1451
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: would have issues with that. And so to give up

1452
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: an enormous amount of capital, whether it's in the draft

1453
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: or players, not to mention the financial commitment the next year,

1454
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: even though it is base salary. I don't know. I

1455
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: don't know if I can get there. Does he? First

1456
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: of all, this team doesn't run the ball enough to

1457
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: justify having a premier back in the first place. Yes,

1458
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 1: he's a fantastic receiver out of the backfield, so maybe

1459
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: you could deploy him in that fashion and be better

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01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: there because he runs like a four to three eight.

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01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know that you need to. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know that it's worth

1463
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: especially when they're asking for what they're supposedly asking for.

1464
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like every transaction of this nature, what do you

1465
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: got to give up? What do you got to give up?

1466
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: The Bills gave up a lot to get Steph Diggs

1467
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: worth it probably so, yeah, what about Christian McCaffrey. You're

1468
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: gonna give up two ones and a two and a

1469
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: three or whatever it is. I'm thinking no, not for

1470
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: a running back in and for a team that you

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01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: throw the football and you say, yeah, well he catches

1472
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 1: the ball, Yeah, okay, but how many catches? How is

1473
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: he gonna do with Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis, Dawson Knox

1474
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: on your team? Is he catching three balls a game? Four. Yeah,

1475
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's room enough in this offense

1476
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: to maximize to maximize what he does. And this window

1477
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo is gonna stay open because they refurbish

1478
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: it every year. Every year. There's a long list of

1479
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: guys that are not going to be a Buffalo Bill

1480
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: next year, at least contractually, their contracts are up at

1481
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: the end of this year, big time contributors. They're going

1482
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: to refurbish it again. And it's that way every year.

1483
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: That's the way the Bills have done it. They find

1484
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: the guys they want in the league and entice him

1485
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: to come to Buffalo, and it's become a destination. Some

1486
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: of it's because of Josh, a lot of it's because

1487
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: of McDermott and the program they've got here and and

1488
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: the process they run. So you don't want to give

1489
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: up chances to bring new players in as draft picks,

1490
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: thinking you're gonna get more out of Christian McCaffrey than

1491
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 1: everybody else out there is available, or anybody else, any

1492
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: combination of guys on your roster right now. Yeah, and

1493
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, Odell Beckham is another name that's getting thrown

1494
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: around a lot. Steve and I are discussing that on

1495
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: our latest podcast, Bills by the Numbers, which should be

1496
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: out on Thursday. So you want to check that out

1497
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: as well, because that's another guy out there in the mix.

1498
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: Now he's different. He's a free agent. All you gotta

1499
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: do is sign him to a contract. You don't have

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01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: to part with any roster capital, draft capital or anything

1501
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: like that. It's just money. It's as in his transaction.

1502
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: What's the likelihood of that. We'll have to wait and see. So, yeah,

1503
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. You don't know who's going

1504
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: to pick up the phone and call Brandon Bean. Maybe

1505
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: he tells him something he likes to hear, right, and

1506
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: he pulls the trigger on something we don't know. I

1507
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: would never rule it out Brandon Bean, if he can

1508
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: find a way to upgrade his roster and not compromise,

1509
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, the future, in the future and all that,

1510
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: they'll pull the trigger now. They they did it for

1511
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, but it has not and I think they'd

1512
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: take that deal again, don't you think? Oh? Yeah, definitely

1513
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: would All right, there you have it there it is. Yeah,

1514
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: there's rumors like that. We won't know until it happens,

1515
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 1: and you know, the Panthers want to move Christian McCaffrey,

1516
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: but they don't want to move him that bad if

1517
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: they're asking that price. Yeah, back to the phones into

1518
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: Dan and Angola. What do you got for his Dan? Hey, guys,

1519
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: um getting back to the Miami heat in minister for

1520
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: Minnesota sidelines, it was one hundred and twenty. Yeah, the

1521
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: Miami sidelines was ninety degrees. Is there some rule that

1522
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: they cannot have a canopy or some kind of shade

1523
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: over on the visitor's sidelines. You got to do it

1524
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: manually and hold it up like a canopy and that

1525
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, and that's what the Bills you

1526
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: can't have. You can't have a permanent structure, like you

1527
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: can't bring one with you and erect it because it

1528
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: gets in the way of the stands and their ability

1529
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: to view the game. So if you're gonna do it,

1530
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: you have to have guys just holding like sunscreens. Yeah,

1531
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: that's what the Bills did. That's what the Bills did

1532
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: some of their staff, but they didn't have enough of

1533
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: them obviously. Yeah, So it's yeah, it's tough. I get it.

1534
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I've talked about this with a couple of people in

1535
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: the building. We've had conversations like what could the league

1536
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: do to fix that? Because it's a problem. I mean

1537
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: ninety degrees on one sideline, one hundred and twenty on

1538
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the other, I mean one hundred and twenty. Like I'll

1539
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 1: give you a perfect example. The World Cup was awarded

1540
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: to Qatar or Cutter, depending on how you want to

1541
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: pronounce the country. And the World Cups usually played in

1542
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: June and July, the full month of June and the

1543
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: first week in July. Can't do that in Cutter. Why

1544
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: because it's one hundred and twenty degrees on the field. Guy,

1545
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: Guys would die playing for ninety minutes non stop. They

1546
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: would die on the field. So they moved the tournament

1547
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,799
Speaker 1: to the fall. The biggest tournament in the entire world

1548
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: moved to the fall because it wasn't safe for the players.

1549
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: What's an easy fix? For Dolphins games at home in

1550
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: September and October moved to four to twenty five All

1551
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: home games for the Miami Dolphins in September and October

1552
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: are played at four to twenty five PM. It's too hot.

1553
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna cause a problem. There's gonna be a problem.

1554
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a real problem at some point if

1555
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 1: this keeps up. We know the Earth isn't getting any cooler.

1556
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: We got climate change happening. It's not gonna get any

1557
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 1: cooler in September and October. In Miami, it's not happening.

1558
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: We get so four start the game in four twenty five,

1559
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: or football games in before week. I talked to Greg

1560
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: Rousseau about this. That's what they did at University in Miami.

1561
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: They don't play home games at one o'clock. They play

1562
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: at four twenty five or at night on Saturdays. The

1563
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins should do the same thing. It's just it's just

1564
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: safer for everybody. They're gonna claim advantage and all that,

1565
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: and okay, we're we're we're nicking them on it. Well,

1566
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,879
Speaker 1: here's the here's the reason it seems unfair in Miami.

1567
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: When you come to Buffalo and it's cold on this

1568
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: on the side, and then and it's a big home

1569
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 1: field advantage, well it's just as cold for the Bills

1570
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: players Miami players. It's not the same in Miami Stadium

1571
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: because it's one hundred and twenty degrees on one side

1572
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: of the field and ninety degrees on the other. So

1573
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: it's thirty degrees difference. That's an advantage that is not

1574
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: present on a cold day, So you can bet it'll

1575
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: be brought up. Whether they'll do anything remains to be seen,

1576
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: and whether a team can take full advantage of the

1577
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: technology they have at their disposal or they have to

1578
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: do it only as much as the other The home

1579
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: team does that kind of thing, because the Miami Dolphins

1580
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. They just sat in the shade. They

1581
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: have all these coolers and these misters and all the

1582
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: stuff that they can do, these air conditioning units that

1583
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: can push cold air through benches, all of that stuff,

1584
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: and if the Dolphins don't do it, they don't have

1585
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: to let the other team do it. And thirty degree

1586
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: colder over there, they don't have to do it, so

1587
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: they don't. Yeah, break time for us here, Steve and

1588
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: I will try to check the tweet sheet real quick

1589
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: when we come back here on one Bill's Live all right,

1590
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Lightning quick round on the tweet sheet, brought to you

1591
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems. What have we learned about the

1592
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Bills through the first six weeks of the season. Nick

1593
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: says that we truly have a top defense. Jeremy says

1594
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: we are learning that the money spent on defense has

1595
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: been worth every single penny paid. Jack says that the

1596
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: team has a dog, has that dog in them. He

1597
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: thinks that the coaching has been spectacular, especially on d

1598
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: Frazier is going to get a head coaching gig in February.

1599
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Chris that they have a good depth. JT. Vaughan is

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: a game changer. Josh says, I've learned a few things.

1601
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,759
Speaker 1: Edmund employer's next contracts continue to get more expensive. Shakier

1602
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: and Cook need to be on the field more. Keep

1603
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: the foot on the pedal at Super Bowl or bust.

1604
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: And Jaya says super impressed with the depth and coaching

1605
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: in respect to the defensive backfield. There's also one bit

1606
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: of news that has come out of the owner's meetings.

1607
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: We know that Amazon Prime signed up to get the

1608
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football package and the hopes of eventually getting

1609
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: a Black Friday game to jump start their e commerce.

1610
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: They will have a Black Friday game next year on

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01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: November twenty fourth, exclusively streamed. Exclusively streamed Steve's Back Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Maddy's filling in for me. We'll see you one