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Speaker 4: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with

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Speaker 5: Good Monday morning, So nice to have you with us

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Speaker 5: on the forty seven Morning Update, We've got one big

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Speaker 5: story for you. Devin Nunyez is now well. He's telling

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Speaker 5: it like it is, saying that Jack Smith sought Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump media bank records. Why were they spying on Trump's

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Speaker 5: Jim Jordan's coming forward talking about just how big and

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Speaker 5: how wide the buying campaign was on conservatives and what

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Speaker 4: Story number one.

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Speaker 5: Devin Nunyez is now exposing Jack Smith and telling us

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Speaker 5: that they sought Trump Media bank records. Is what we're

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Speaker 5: being told Donald Trump saying these thugs should be investigated.

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Speaker 5: Trump Media and Technology Group Corporation TMTG CEO and former

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Speaker 5: Congressman Devin Nunyez on Thursday accused former Special counsel Jack

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Speaker 5: Smith of wielding a shockingly broad, secret subpoena for the

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Speaker 5: banking records of the Trump Media Empire, despite the company

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Speaker 5: TMTG was among the more than four hundred Trump linked

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Speaker 5: individuals and organizations that we're spied on as part of

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Speaker 5: Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation of President Donald Trump. Specifically,

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Speaker 5: the Smith team issued as shockingly broad and secret subpoena

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Speaker 5: for our banking records Noonez says in a statement on

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Speaker 5: True Social saying, quote, this is a stunning abuse of

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Speaker 5: the named parties below listing TMTG among the named entities.

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Speaker 5: The subpoena spans the time period from September one, twenty

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Speaker 2: These thugs should all be investigated and put in prison.

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Speaker 2: A disgrace to humanity. Deranged Jack Smith is a criminal

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Speaker 2: They went after all these records of these people. Did

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Speaker 2: so that we can see who it is. We can

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Speaker 2: or something, if we reveal it. But the fact that

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Speaker 2: usually means it's sort of like, well things are classified

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Speaker 2: that's where the lack of transparency, you know, and we

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Speaker 2: you unredacted, it would be good. I mean, I realized,

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Speaker 2: maybe it won't turn it into the public. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you do an investigation when you

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Speaker 2: can't get all the material.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're working on find out what the name is

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Speaker 3: underneath those those those those black lines.

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Speaker 1: We want to know who the name is or what

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Speaker 1: the name is.

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Speaker 3: We want to know who that individual is, so again

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Speaker 3: we can we can ask them questions like where did

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Speaker 3: the I think, particularly that the email I keep citing,

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Speaker 3: I won't know who that source is because I think

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Speaker 3: it's the source that they were using. Who was the

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Speaker 3: person alleging that the former chiefest staff was engaged. That's

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Speaker 3: just just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Well do you know what though, But it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit like when they were using that guy Steel as

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Speaker 2: a source they kept using it wouldn't tell but if

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Speaker 2: anyone had pulled, if anyone had investigated Steel, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have used him as a source, you know. But if

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Speaker 2: you just say the person's a source and black it out,

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Speaker 2: there's no way to challenge whether it's someone who has

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Speaker 2: good information or it's someone's got an ax to grind

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Speaker 2: or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 3: That's that's not to and not to mention the sub

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Speaker 3: sources that Steele was using, who would just further complicates

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Speaker 3: it means there's more lies than that ridiculous dossier that

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Speaker 3: they relied on to get warrants to go spawn a

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Speaker 1: No great point, and it's again this all now has come.

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Speaker 3: All getting exposed goes clear back to twenty sixteen when

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Speaker 3: they spider it. That's when it all started, and we're

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Speaker 3: starting to unravel it all. So that and the reason

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Speaker 3: we want to unravel it all and hold people accountable

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Speaker 3: is so that it doesn't happen again.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I were if I were a government employer

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Speaker 2: that to me without a warrant from a judge or

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Speaker 2: from a grand jury, I would sue from a constitution

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Speaker 2: of rights being violated because I tell you one thing.

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Speaker 1: You get.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you get a big chunk of change

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Speaker 2: out of the government. Secondly, you get a lot of discovery,

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Speaker 2: you get a lot of information, you know, and we'd

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Speaker 2: find out what the government is doing and not doing.

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Speaker 2: Chairman Jim Jordan, thanks sir.

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Speaker 5: You listen to Jim Jordan there and you hear what

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Speaker 5: he had to say. It is truly incredible they were

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Speaker 5: able to do this and abuse the power of the government.

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Speaker 5: The good news is Donald Trump is making it very

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Speaker 5: clear there's going to be accountability for people that abuse

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Speaker 5: their power in the last administration or any administration. If

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Speaker 5: there's evidence of major wrong doe It.

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