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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we are for another week. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: with you as we start your week here on a

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of One Bill's Live. Glad to have you

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Speaker 1: with us and Steve Yes, how did you handle the

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Speaker 1: weather this weekend? For those that are outside the eight

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Speaker 1: good good dos is snow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going well. It's not going well if

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Speaker 2: the rest of this week turns out like this morning has.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm just you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: I'm it's it's gonna really really bad. We've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of snow on the way too. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: cold all week. It's gonna snow. You gotta stay on

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Speaker 2: top of it, which I was doing this morning, and

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Speaker 2: I was plowing the drive and and of course my

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Speaker 2: plow breaks down. Stuff never breaks but this just in

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Speaker 2: stuff never breaks down when you're not using it well.

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Speaker 2: But when you start using it, that's the only time

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Speaker 2: it'll ever break down. That's common logic. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: So I was I got that going on, and then

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Speaker 2: I turned into an old man and forgot all my

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Speaker 2: stuff for work today. When I came in, we've all

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Speaker 2: go back home to get all, you know, all the

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Speaker 2: things I need to do my job here and come back.

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Speaker 1: That's always fun.

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Speaker 2: And then spilled my lunch all over my front and

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Speaker 2: I was so it's like, yeah, it's it's gonna a

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Speaker 2: great week.

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Speaker 1: Well, things happen in threes, and that's three things, so

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Speaker 1: you're done look at it that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, how do the Patriots going to the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl hat count for the fourth?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 2: About that going to the super Bowl before Josh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, although he was reminding reporters that he did go

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three with the forty nine ers as

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's true. There is for him.

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Speaker 1: Good on him, Yeah, I mean he played great, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't knock it.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be this. Yeah, this you just kind

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Speaker 2: of have as a Bills fan. This is my h

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Speaker 2: this is my mo o for this off season and

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Speaker 2: for until we kick it off again. He's gonna sit

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Speaker 2: down and shut up. I mean, I've just just got

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Speaker 2: to shut up.

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Speaker 1: I had a Yesterday was not a good day for

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Speaker 1: me and my wife will acknowledge this because I was

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Speaker 1: not fun to be around yesterday watching that first game.

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Speaker 1: I was not fun to be around, no way, Jose

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Speaker 1: just could it just I could not stomach it.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know that Jared Stidham was in for

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Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos and Drake May you know, and the

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Speaker 2: and and they were playing in the snowstorm. You just

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Speaker 2: look out there anything. You know, Bills are better than

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Speaker 2: both those teams. You got to think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're a pass fan, the Bills have a much

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Speaker 2: and and to their credit to both those teams have

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Speaker 2: better games in them than they showed yesterday as well.

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Speaker 2: But man, oh man, that's what's hard. Fresh out of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and look at the teams that are in it, yep,

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Speaker 2: just watching them flop around. It's just rough, so rough.

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Speaker 1: As as you know, we both own dogs. My dog yesterday,

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Speaker 1: looks at me and then goes just huffs, just are

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Speaker 2: His bad So yeah, same with me. My dogs are

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they can't know their business. My little my

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Speaker 1: So here was the other thing. So I usually take

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Speaker 2: It's just yeah, they were out. They were out in

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Speaker 2: get I mean, we get it. I'm Buffalo people are.

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Speaker 2: That's It's a big deal down in the South. Some

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Speaker 2: It's going to last what in some of these places

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Speaker 2: the last seventy two hours tops, and they're getting gallons

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I saw a viral video of a

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, even if you have a

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Speaker 2: Tent, gotcha wife, And there is no way.

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Speaker 1: You're drinking forty gallons of milk before the cell date.

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Speaker 1: You're just not doing it. Even if that's the only

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not They're just panicking.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. Like you could drink milk every day,

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Speaker 2: That's insanity.

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Speaker 1: And yet there's I mean, it's just it's something. It

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Speaker 1: It turns those people down South inside out. They don't

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Speaker 2: Do well, and then they and then they attempt to

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Speaker 1: Well, well, the.

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Speaker 2: Problem is they don't have salt, they don't have plows,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we know how that goes. But yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be a rough week here in Western

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Speaker 2: New York. Very cold, snowy here we go.

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Speaker 1: So sit inside and listen to us here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. So we've got a lot to get to Obviously.

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Speaker 1: The head coaching search is well underway after last week

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Speaker 1: when it began in Earn, So there are some developments

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach Davis Webb expected to interview with the Bills

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Speaker 1: today for the head coaching post now that the Broncos

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Speaker 2: Is that gonna be in person? Did they say? Do

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Speaker 1: I did not get those details. He is supposed to

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Speaker 1: interview with the Las Vegas Raiders after that, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see where all of that goes. But the Bills were

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Speaker 1: Grant Yudinsky has pulled his name from consideration for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns head coaching job now. According to reports, Yudinsky

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Speaker 1: increase his pay for next season, but the Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: having interviewed for that on Sunday. If Yudinsky doesn't get

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Speaker 1: So he's either here as the head coach, were there

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Speaker 1: Rivers removed his name from consideration for the Bill's head

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Speaker 1: coaching job. According to reports, Rivers has interest in coaching,

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Speaker 1: a head coach. But it's early, but NFL Networks and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah released his first mock draft, and at pick

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Speaker 1: twenty six, he has the Bills taking middle linebacker CJ.

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Speaker 1: subject to change, But picking twenty six, I think you're

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Speaker 1: and get the best player on the board at a

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Speaker 1: different position. And look, I know people love Shaq Thompson

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Speaker 1: I think anybody anticipated, especially being a year removed from

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Speaker 1: an achilles injury. But the fact is he's in his

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Speaker 1: eleventh year and he's also a free agent so knowing that,

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Speaker 1: knowing Mulano's a free agent and may not be back,

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Speaker 1: and knowing there's the possibility of Terrell Bernard transitioning from

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Speaker 1: middle linebacker to weak side, there could be a cavernous

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Speaker 1: hole there at middle line, right in the center of

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Speaker 2: We've talked about you and I have talked about that

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Speaker 2: a little bit on the air, but a lot off

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Speaker 2: the air, about what that would mean to them, And

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think they need you need

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Speaker 2: a big physical presence inside there. Shaq Thompson turned the

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Speaker 2: notch up on that whole defense when he got in there.

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Speaker 2: Whether it was his presence, the way he played, or

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Speaker 2: his voice, or his or his leadership, whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: You need a guy like that full time.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna tell you that CJ. Allen plays

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Speaker 1: of discussion for you today concerns the Bill's coaching search

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Speaker 1: You tell us at eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 1: to the phones at eight oh three oh five fifty one,

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Speaker 1: Rob on a sale to lead us off. What's Rob?

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Speaker 1: What's up Rob?

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Speaker 3: Him? Here? I think it would be a mistake to

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Speaker 3: You can't replace mcge with someone no head coaching experience. However,

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Speaker 3: I would like to see Gable being the head coach,

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Speaker 3: He did a very good job of changing the culture

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Speaker 3: come to play Buffalo. He hit a plateau, He hit

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Speaker 3: they would win their division and qualify for the playoffs

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Speaker 3: Monday Monday through Saturday. He's a great coach, come dow.

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Speaker 3: He's just not and he fosters in the playoffs. And

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Speaker 3: you know, statistics are misleading saying that you know those

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Speaker 3: That's misleading. Probably hasn't been able to stop stop the

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Speaker 3: Now the Bills have to move on, all right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Rob. So he wants a guy with prior

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who believe someone with

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I see the logic in that.

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Speaker 2: I think you can do that, particularly in this situation here,

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Speaker 2: Let's do this. Let's do this so he can start

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Speaker 1: Yeah to Dan in Rochester next, what's up, Dan.

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Speaker 4: I've seen better high schools in Rochester. In that game

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Speaker 1: Davis Webb is supposed to be interviewing for the head

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Speaker 1: coaching job here in Buffalo today. He's also thirty years old,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he can't be a head coach,

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Speaker 1: but he hasn't called plays at the NFL level yet,

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Speaker 1: And I think the perfect spot for him would be

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Speaker 1: if he's not your choice for a head coach and

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Speaker 1: you land on Dable, I would think it's more likely

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Speaker 1: that Davis Webb is his OC than Joe Brady. And

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Speaker 1: I only say that because he was with Brian Dable

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Speaker 1: with the Giants as a third quarterback and then retires

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Speaker 1: and goes and works for Sean Payton. But he's not

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Speaker 1: calling plays there. He's a quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Peyton calls and plays.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'll say this, there's a lot of relationship between

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Speaker 2: an OC and a play caller and the head coach,

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Speaker 2: particularly if the head coach is a play caller. The

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Speaker 2: OC is still very busy and still involved and what

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Speaker 2: happens is these got particularly the ones who are on

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Speaker 2: the list, you know, like Udinsky, Web, all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Well those two haven't called plays at the NFL level.

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Speaker 2: Those guys have sat at the shoulder or in the

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Speaker 2: room with a guy and learned how he does it

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Speaker 2: and why he does it. Those conversations happen about well,

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Speaker 2: why did you call this here? And you'll have some

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Speaker 2: answers for him. And also once they get into that

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Speaker 2: seat goes pretty fast. I mean it goes fast.

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Speaker 1: I think the real interesting thing with those candidates, let's

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Speaker 1: just say it's Davis Web or Yudinsky who have never

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Speaker 1: called plays before as a coordinator, what do they do.

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Speaker 1: Do they just worry about the head coaching role on

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Speaker 1: game day and hire a coordinator to handle that, or

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Speaker 1: do they do both? Because I think that's a heavy

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Speaker 1: lift for a young guy like that who not only

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Speaker 1: has never been a head coach but also hasn't been

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Speaker 1: a play call. I would be if I'm that guy.

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Speaker 1: And look, I understand that ego and confidence and the

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Speaker 1: belief himself to do all that is admirable, but I

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Speaker 1: think you also have to be realistic with what you're undertaking.

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be shocked if one of those guys

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Speaker 1: turned out be the guy bring in a coordinator that's

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Speaker 1: maybe even got more experience than you doing his called

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Speaker 1: plays before. So that's one last thing you got to

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Speaker 1: worry about on game day. Maybe.

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Speaker 2: But a guy like Davis Webb who sat in Denver

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Speaker 2: for a couple of years and has watched Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: do it as a head coach and been the offensive coordinators,

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Speaker 2: so he knows the schedules, he knows the he will

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Speaker 2: have seen it done and seen it done very well,

482
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Speaker 2: so he could and believe me, those guys he'll do it.

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Speaker 2: He'll have it in his notes. Well, he'll just say, well,

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Speaker 2: this is the schedule for me on as a head

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Speaker 2: coach during the game week, and here's the game list,

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Speaker 2: here's when I need this, here's when. He'll have that

487
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Speaker 2: laid out, a process laid out so he can get

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Speaker 2: ready to call plays and be the head coach. That's

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Speaker 2: what this, That's what smart guys do. And Udinsky's the

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Speaker 2: same thing there. And let me say this, they want

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Speaker 2: to I would imagine right, that's what I was getting.

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Speaker 2: They want to yeah, and they're gonna try and make

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Speaker 2: it happen. So yeah, I mean you could. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if you'd even want to try and talk

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Speaker 2: him out of it. But the reason these guys get

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Speaker 2: to the short list and at thirty years old, you've

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Speaker 2: got head coaches in the league going, man, he's really

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Speaker 2: good is because they're really really smart, really smart. They

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Speaker 2: know a lot of football. They handle people, what they

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Speaker 2: got to They check a ton of boxes. So yes,

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Speaker 2: they they may have to get up to speed in

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Speaker 2: one area or other, but probably on the offensive side

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Speaker 2: of the ball, not too much. Call him plays or not.

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Speaker 1: Yep, gotta take a break here, more of your phone

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Speaker 1: calls when we get back on the other side of

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Speaker 1: this break. Only four head coaching jobs left open. Can

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Speaker 1: the Bills wait for the guy they want even if

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Speaker 1: it's after the Super Bowl? You tell us next Here

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Speaker 1: on one Bills Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Back here on one Bills Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and question on the table for

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Speaker 1: you today is with only four head coaching jobs open,

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Speaker 1: counting that of the Bills, Ken Buffalo wait for the

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Speaker 1: guy they want even if it's after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We don't know of any additional candidates aside from Davis Webb,

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Speaker 1: who's reportedly interviewing today, But logic would say that there

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Speaker 1: might be a couple of more who are playing in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So you let us know how patient

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Speaker 1: you think the Bills can afford to be eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty to William on a sale? What's up? William?

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Speaker 6: Hello?

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Speaker 1: Hey William? What do you have for us? William?

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, we're here. Go ahead, William.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, guys?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 5: My name is Billy and I'm from Lima, New York.

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Speaker 5: I made the call earlier in the week before the game,

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Speaker 5: looking at last year's game and calling out for a

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Speaker 5: total domination. And I'm here to stand by my call.

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Speaker 1: And who did you say was going to dominate? Whom?

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Speaker 5: I said the Bills were going to dominate Denver, just

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Speaker 5: like they did last year. And everyone that I've heard

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Speaker 5: of since the game hasn't come back to the cause

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Speaker 5: of why they lost the game and why it's so devastating.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, and what would that be in your mind?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I could go down through one hundred things. But one

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Speaker 5: thing is the Bills were ready to play the game

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Speaker 5: when they came out if this wasn't the Miami game.

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Speaker 5: And their effort was great, but their execution was awful.

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Speaker 5: And the players are crying because they know their execution

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Speaker 5: was awful. That's why they're crying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and they said as much too, William

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Speaker 1: or Bill, thanks for the call. I mean, Josh was

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Speaker 1: very pointed. As we have said many times, he's one

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Speaker 1: of the most self aware players we have ever been around.

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Speaker 1: And he felt it, he experienced it, and he assessed

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Speaker 1: it very honestly. So that's a week in the rearview

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Speaker 1: mirror now, and there's nothing that can be done except

553
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Speaker 1: try to be better the next time. As Steve says

554
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Speaker 1: all the time, you got to play well on that day.

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Speaker 1: To Milton in Buffalo. It's up Milton.

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Speaker 8: Hey, hey, guys, how you do it good? Yeah, this

557
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Speaker 8: is one of the farst coaches I think the Bills

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Speaker 8: are waiting on the Seattle culture was his name, Kubiak? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: but I would like I wouldn't mind Dable or Brady,

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Speaker 8: you know, Brady pair with like a Gym Swartz defense

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Speaker 8: if he was available. But also a lot. I would

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Speaker 8: like to say this also, as you can see, they

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Speaker 8: always say defense wins championships. And you see, like the

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Speaker 8: top three defenses was in the championship games, you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean, But it was two teams that all

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Speaker 8: that could get past those defense and that was the

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Speaker 8: Bills in the rams. So to imagine the Bills with

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Speaker 8: one of those defenses, and you know what I mean,

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Speaker 8: I know from the eye test, you know, they say

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Speaker 8: we is like seventh stopped in the past, but nah, man,

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Speaker 8: that defense it wasn't right. They had a lot of heart,

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Speaker 8: but it just you know, it wasn't right. And he

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Speaker 8: needs a new scheme that we need a top defense

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Speaker 8: like that can't be stopped. They can't stop. No defense

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Speaker 8: can stop us. Josh Allen can go through anything and

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Speaker 8: snow all that, you know what I'm saying. So we

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Speaker 8: a defense like that, it's just be unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll it'll be interesting to see what the approach

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Speaker 1: this offseason to you know, add to the roster, because

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Speaker 1: they went super heavy on defense last offseason. I mean

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Speaker 1: they added six defensive linemen, three in the draft, three

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Speaker 1: in free agency, and added in other areas on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball as well. And you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, they're the seventh rated

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Speaker 1: defense in football. They're the number one pass defense in football,

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Speaker 1: but in other areas they were average to below average.

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Speaker 1: And your points well taken, Milton top three defenses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: were in the conference championship games. Yeah, and I know

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Speaker 1: weather played a factor in this, but yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: painful to watch the Patriots win and beat the Broncos

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Speaker 1: by scoring ten points when Buffalo hung thirty on them. So,

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Speaker 1: but four turnovers is going to do you in five turnovers?

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Speaker 1: What am I saying it was five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, you're right. I In the big scheme of things,

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Speaker 2: we everybody talks about offense because that's what is easy

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00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: to critique when a guy drops it or they don't

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00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: throw the right you know, play call or whatever. Defense

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Speaker 2: is a little bit more hard for regular casual fans

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Speaker 2: and people who don't study the game. It's harder to

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Speaker 2: discern how good or bad a defense is or why.

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Speaker 2: On offense, it's easy. The guy got tackled behind the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Your offense is stinking it up. You

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Speaker 2: gotta you know, you gotta block better, you gotta run better.

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Speaker 2: You got it all of that. Uh, And it's easy

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Speaker 2: to sit here and and gloss over, you know, and

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Speaker 2: and talk about the wide receiver that they don't have

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Speaker 2: they need or and that whole conversation that we suffered

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Speaker 2: through for the entire season. In reality, you know, your

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Speaker 2: defense gives up too many points and gives up too

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Speaker 2: many third and longs, and and you know, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of if they had, If you had

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Speaker 2: a defense that was menst with your offense, you'd be

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Speaker 2: a better football team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But to me, seeing that it was the number

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Speaker 1: one pass defense in football and yet twenty fourth and

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Speaker 1: third down defense speaks to a very clear problem. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were twenty ninth and third down defense last year.

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Speaker 1: They were twenty fourth this past season. There's a clear

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Speaker 1: pass pressure issue that has to be rectified to help

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Speaker 1: the guys on the back end. I think you have

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Speaker 1: some capable players on the back end, but they need

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Speaker 1: more help from the guys up front from strictly a

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Speaker 1: pass pressure perspective and probably an improved run defense perspective too.

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Speaker 1: Where they were also one of the worst in the league.

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Speaker 1: They were hovered between twenty eighth and thirtieth all season long.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Dylan in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Dylan?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Hey, guys, how you doing. Steven Brownie good good?

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Speaker 9: I was just calling about, you know, the interviews with

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Speaker 9: that coach jobs. You know, I know we're looking for

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Speaker 9: the o C and Jacksonville right now. I know we

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Speaker 9: got to pull the trigger because there's a lot of

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Speaker 9: coaches that are gonna be unavailable, and teams need coaches

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Speaker 9: like the Raiders and so forth. You know, I I honestly,

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Speaker 9: I think we should wait two weeks if we can.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if that's possible, and pull the trigger

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Speaker 9: on Clint Kubiak. You know, he made Sam Donald was

639
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Speaker 9: like an interception machine, you know, and I feel like

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Speaker 9: he made Sam Donald and that the quarterback he is.

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Speaker 9: I know he had help by Kevin O'Connell and UH Minnesota,

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Speaker 9: but you know, I feel like Clint Kubiak would be

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Speaker 9: the right offensive minded offensive coordinator we would need. But

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Speaker 9: you know that that was my perspective if we got it.

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Speaker 9: What is your Do you guys think we need to

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Speaker 9: pull the trigger on Jacksonville doc or do we got

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Speaker 9: time to wait?

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Speaker 1: Personally? I think And thanks for the call, Dylan, per

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Speaker 1: I think you can wait because of the four jobs remaining,

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's is clearly the most attractive. Now you

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Speaker 1: can make I think you can make an argument for

652
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: the Raiders for these reasons. One they've got the top

653
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, so they can get a quarterback. Two,

654
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: they have over one hundred million dollars in cap space

655
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: in which to use to improve the roster. And if

656
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: you believe in Tom Brady and John Spytech as GM

657
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: minority owner Tom Brady, John spy Tech the GM, and

658
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: believe they can keep the owner at arm's length from

659
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Speaker 1: what you're trying to do on a daily basis, well

660
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: then maybe you could see your way to trying to

661
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Speaker 1: build something in Las Vegas. I still think Mark Davis

662
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: is a complete wild card. You could wake up one

663
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: day and not know what you're getting from ownership. So

664
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: to me, that's that's a minus Khan if you're making

665
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: a pro and con list for the Raiders job. So

666
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: because the Bill's job is the most attractive, if you

667
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: truly believe that as Bills ownership in brass I think

668
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: you say it's more important to get the right guy

669
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: than it is the date we make the decision on

670
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Speaker 1: the guy.

671
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah if and I get it too. The panic is

672
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: that somebody else will hire the right guy and you'll

673
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: miss him. I think the Bills have spoken to all

674
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: the guys that have been hired, except for John Harbaugh,

675
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: who is hired very fast. I remember before the Bills

676
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: even fired their fired McDermott, John Harbaugh was already coach. Yeah,

677
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: he's already done. But they talked to Mike McDaniel. They

678
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: talked to these other guys, you know, a ton of

679
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: the other guys, and Mike McCarthy I don't think was

680
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: a candidate for the Bills. I think they spoke with

681
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: Jeff Hafley as well, the guy that Miami. No, they didn't.

682
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: My point is this, They've got a lot of interviews

683
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: and getting more as we speak, under their belt. I

684
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: don't think they're worried about missing out. I think the

685
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: guys that have been hired were not high on their list,

686
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: were not as high. And I think they're looking for

687
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: the right guy. And I think they've got a couple

688
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: of guys they like. I think I think Davis Webb,

689
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: I think Yudensky, I think Kubiak are high on their list.

690
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: They're high on their list and for good reason.

691
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Speaker 1: And they have to wait to talk to Kubiak. For

692
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: this reason, the Bills did not do an initial interview

693
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: with Clint Kubiak during Seattle's bye week before the playoffs

694
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: when they were the number one seed. Arizona did, and

695
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: I believe Las Vegas did, And because they already did

696
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: an initial interview in that bye week, they are a

697
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: lot to conduct a second interview with him this week

698
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: if they so choose. Because the Bills did not make

699
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: an initial interview with them during the bye week because

700
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: they were still playing football and had a head coach,

701
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: they cannot talk to him this week for an initial interview.

702
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: They have to wait until after the Super Bowl.

703
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: That's the rule.

704
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Speaker 1: And you can debate why is that rule in place.

705
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I think it's because, in large part, not too many

706
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: coaches that make the playoffs get fired, and so it

707
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: never really came into play as an issue. It's an

708
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: issue now for the Bills anyway, But I don't think

709
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: it should preclude them from pulling the trigger on somebody

710
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: else if they believe there are other candidates worth interviewing

711
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: to make sure they get the right guy for them.

712
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: We're up against the break here, so we'll take one

713
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: and get back to more of your phone calls when

714
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: we return. If you're holding at eight h three ZHO

715
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: five fifty, we'll get to you on the other side

716
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Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live stay with us back here,

717
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: I want to Bill's Live Chris brown Seed tasker with

718
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: you on a Monday, and only four head coaching jobs

719
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: remain open, including that of the Bills. Can Buffalo wait

720
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: for the guy they want, even if it's after the

721
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl?

722
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: You tell us?

723
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: At eight O three oh five fifty, we go to

724
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Speaker 1: Rick in California. What's ever?

725
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Speaker 6: Rick?

726
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 10: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. Thank you again for taking the call.

727
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 10: So sure, so I believe in my fantasy way of

728
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 10: doing the coaching higher this time. I called you guys

729
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 10: a couple months ago about the same thing, and it

730
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 10: is any possible way. What I would like to do

731
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 10: is I like to bring Dable in and make him

732
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 10: a co head coach slash offensive coordinator and bring Sean

733
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 10: McDermott back as a co head coach slash defensive coordinator.

734
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Speaker 10: You know, because I think right now, the cammaderie and

735
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 10: everybody known, everybody without having a brand new hire and

736
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 10: hoping that God it works out that nobody really knows about. Yeah,

737
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 10: I think that'd be the best, the best route to take.

738
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rick, and that's I don't know what alternate universe

739
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: you're living in, but there is no possible way that

740
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: is happening. Like, I respect what you're trying to cobble

741
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: together there, but just with the way that egos work

742
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL and the decisions that were made, there ain't.

743
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: No way that's happened. Yeah, there's no going back.

744
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: So sorry to disappoint you, but that is not happening

745
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: and co head coach will never happen in the NFL.

746
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: I feel very confident in saying that never ever.

747
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Ever, Well you never say never, but never never ever

748
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: but never never never, never, no way. Yeah, that's yeah,

749
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: I get it. And listen when when all these there

750
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: were ten head coaching vacancies, remember last week, Now there's

751
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: four and all everybody and even we were doing it today,

752
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: well like day with Davis Webb and Jim Schwartz. That's

753
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: your staff, that's your triumviry, your your head coach, offensive

754
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: and defensive coordinator. Hey, I'm all about it too, and

755
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: that that could.

756
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: That'd be pretty good.

757
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: That would be pretty good, and I could see that

758
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: on the on the horizon of possibilities. Probably not, but

759
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it'd be nice. But having a co

760
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: head coach. And I don't care if I mean, you

761
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: can't just know me and Brownie couldn't be co head coaches.

762
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: I mean, and we're buddies, right, I mean.

763
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Speaker 1: I would defer to you on a lot of stuff.

764
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: So for about five minutes you would, until I started

765
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: making it. You'd be like, nah, we ain't doing that, right,

766
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way it works.

767
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: You've forgotten.

768
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Speaker 11: I don't.

769
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no there are no two guys who

770
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: would get qualified enough to be a head coach who

771
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: would then take or accept Yeah, a co head coaching.

772
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: We've talked enough about that. We got to move on.

773
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jane in Brockpord.

774
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Speaker 12: What's up, Gene, Hi, guys, I just wanted to give

775
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 12: my opinion. And I know a lot of people are

776
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 12: up in arms about how this went down, but.

777
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Speaker 13: I can't. There's nobody out there I can think of

778
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 13: there'll be any better or worse coach than what we had.

779
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 13: And the other thing, and so I think it was

780
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 13: smarter Pegoula to say it with him the fuck because

781
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 13: we got to be grateful to him, just for heaven

782
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 13: that Bill's here still. But the other thing is, this

783
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 13: is a question. I love baseball and football. Why don't

784
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 13: they handle it the same. Why don't they wait until

785
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 13: the season's over and then do the hiring and firing.

786
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: Well they did, that is what they did, Geane. They

787
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: fired him the day after the season was over.

788
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: Two days after the season was over.

789
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not certain what you're getting at there, but.

790
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: You're probably because they have to wait on a guy

791
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: to interview, maybe the Kubiak thing or the Yudinsky thing

792
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: or whoever, or Davis Webb, so you have to wait

793
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: for the other teams to finish their season. I get it,

794
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: But they aren't waiting. I mean, they're just interviewing a

795
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: lot of people and they haven't made a decision yet.

796
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, football and football is a different animal than baseball.

797
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: But I get it.

798
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: Right. Let's move along and we go to Dan in Buffalo.

799
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: What's up, Dan?

800
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: Hi you do and thanks for taking my call. I

801
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: just wanted to say real quick, you know, I'm old school,

802
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm fifty, so I was in high school for all

803
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 4: four straight Super Bowls. Originally I wanted a super Bowl

804
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: winning coach. I think that was the thing. But I

805
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: realized that you can't do that in today's world. They're

806
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: either old or Grugon's has a lawsuit, or they're to

807
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: bring their old coordinators here and they're setting their waist.

808
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: You're not going to get a super Bowl winning coach.

809
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: So with that said, I think the smartest, my opinion,

810
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: coach would either be Brady or Dable because they got

811
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: coaching experience, they got play calling experience. I think Webb

812
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: is a horrible idea. He's never called plays. And good

813
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: things come to those who wait. I would wait for

814
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: Kubiak if that's who you really want. I just think

815
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: people are overthinking it. I think it's got to be

816
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 4: Brady Gable or Kubiak, thank you, ye sure?

817
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: Saying I wouldn't put I wouldn't put Yudnsky out of

818
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: the loop either, or shield House.

819
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah if he gets to the list, yeah, yeah.

820
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: Uh, there's a there's some names out there and yeah, unfortunately,

821
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: and we see this every single year. Last year was

822
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and it was Aaron Glenn. You know, so

823
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: you got, You've got hot coordinators defic on both sides

824
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: of the ball. Vrabel Lombardi? Uh is it? And Lombardi's name,

825
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: I can't remember his first name. One of the Lombardi

826
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: lineages out there as a defensive coordinator. A very sharp guy.

827
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm pretty sure when push comes to show.

828
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: We all have our ideas, but I think all of

829
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: us agree. If you get the right guy, it doesn't

830
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: matter where he comes from and away, you know, how

831
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: long is it going to take him? What's the team

832
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: going to look like? Because it's going to be different

833
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: to Jim in Wyoming?

834
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: Next? What's up Jim?

835
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: Guys, thanks for taking my call.

836
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Sure.

837
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: I am been a Bill Stansin's the nineteen seventies, actually

838
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 4: since nineteen seventy. I'm wondering how you would feel about

839
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: Alex van Pelt maybe coming to the Bills as the

840
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: head coach.

841
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's an interesting name. He's currently a

842
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: senior offensive assistant for the Rams. I think it's more

843
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: likely that he's hired as a coordinator somewhere, and I

844
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: think where he's going to land is potentially Pittsburgh because

845
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was his coach at pitt In College, and

846
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: he coached on his staff in Green Bay, so there's

847
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: a long standing relationship there between McCarthy and Alex. And Alex,

848
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: as we know, is a Pittsburgh native as well. He

849
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: finished his high school career down in Texas to try

850
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: to boost his college profile, but then played at pitt

851
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: So I think I think if he lands anywhere, it's

852
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: probably Pittsburgh. As an OC candidate. We'll see what happens,

853
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: but that would be my guest. As a head coaching candidate,

854
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: I don't know I would feel good about him as

855
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: an OC. I mean, he got thrust into an offensive

856
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: coordinator position here in two thousand and nine after Dick

857
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Jaron fired the coordinator a week before the season started,

858
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: and they told AVP, hey, you're calling. You got nine

859
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: days to get ready for New England for the season

860
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: opener on Monday Night football. And they were. They were

861
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: up twenty four to thirteen late in the third quarter,

862
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: and the defense, combined with the Liotis McKelvin fumble on

863
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: a kick return, ended up making it a twenty five

864
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: twenty four loss. But it was a heck of a

865
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Speaker 1: performance by AVP. He impressed me that day.

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Speaker 2: He has got a long he's got a long resume.

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Speaker 2: A very good player, very good player, has been a

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Speaker 2: longtime coach at the high level, at coordinator level or

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Speaker 2: senior assistant level. I mean you've heard Brownie. He and

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Speaker 2: he's and he's got some chops. He's a good leader

871
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Speaker 2: as well. So yeah, I'm yeah, I'll listen. I'll listen

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Speaker 2: to that.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't dismiss it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. He's been here before, he knows

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Speaker 2: the lay of the land and the city. I wouldn't

876
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Speaker 2: be surprised if he gets you know, talk to about

877
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Speaker 2: a number member of offensive coordinator spots around the league.

878
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Speaker 2: Working with McVeigh is big. Everybody likes that. On your resume.

879
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of openings available, and like I said,

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Speaker 2: Alex has got a really good resume.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here wide open for your phone

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Speaker 1: calls in hour number two. So if you're holding stay

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Speaker 1: where you are, we'll get to you when we return

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Speaker 1: for Hour number two. On a Monday on one Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: These one Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 1: Here we are our number two on a Monday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as the head coaching search continues,

889
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Speaker 1: and we're asking you today, with only four head coaching

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Speaker 1: jobs open, including that of the Bills, can Buffalo wait

891
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Speaker 1: for the guy they want even if it's after the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? For those of you that are not aware,

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Speaker 1: because the Bills did not conduct an initial interview with

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Speaker 1: any of the potential assistants that are in the Super

895
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Speaker 1: Bowl that they may want to talk to, they cannot

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Speaker 1: do so until after the Super Bowl. Teams like Arizona

897
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Speaker 1: and Las Vegas that interviewed some of those assistants while

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Speaker 1: they were on their bye week as the number one

899
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Speaker 1: seed Seattle and the NFC, for example, some of them

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Speaker 1: interviewed Clint Kubiak an initial time during Seattle's bye They

901
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Speaker 1: are allowed to talk to him this week for a

902
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Speaker 1: second interview if they so choose. If Buffalo has Clint

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Speaker 1: Kubiak on their list, they can't talk to him until

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Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl was over. And that's why we're

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Speaker 1: pitching this question to you today. Can they afford to

906
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Speaker 1: wait for the guy they want even if it's after

907
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Eight three five point fifty won eighty eight,

908
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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty the numbers to jump on board.

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Speaker 1: We go to Tone in Buffalo. It's up Toney A.

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Speaker 2: Brown.

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Speaker 8: He had a question for me, Yeah, who in the

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Speaker 8: organization picked land In Jackson? Because I remember something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. There's no way for us

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Speaker 1: to really know definitively, right, and they always say they

915
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Speaker 1: build consensus and make a decision. That's where they landed.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember. I remember a caller called in last

917
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Speaker 8: year before the draft and he was kind of saying, like,

918
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Speaker 8: we always get our hopes up, but it's always like

919
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Speaker 8: a letdown and unless they picked somebody like land And

920
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Speaker 8: Jackson was laughing. And then the draft came and they

921
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Speaker 8: really picked him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think he had a good college resume,

923
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Speaker 1: and look, don't we really don't know anything about him

924
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Speaker 1: at the pro level because he was a healthy, inactive

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Speaker 1: at the deepest position on the roster and then he

926
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Speaker 1: got hurt when he finally did play and was out

927
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Speaker 1: for the season on injured reserve. So to me, I

928
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Speaker 1: think the jury's still out on him. I mean, he

929
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Speaker 1: played two games. I think there's no way to know.

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Speaker 1: So let's see him come back rehab get healthy, see

931
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Speaker 1: what kind of an offseason he can put together, and

932
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Speaker 1: see if he's more of a contributor this year when

933
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Speaker 1: presumably some of the veterans that were in front of

934
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Speaker 1: him on this roster may may not be here. Aj

935
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Speaker 1: Epeness is a free agent, Joey Bosa is a free agent,

936
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Speaker 1: so there may be greater opportunity for him in addition

937
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Speaker 1: to being healthy. So under a new defensive coordinator presumably,

938
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Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes. But the jury's out

939
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Speaker 1: on that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's too many questions about him. He didn't get

941
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Speaker 2: on the field and the roster that they had, so

942
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Speaker 2: it's hard to say he was going to be a

943
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Speaker 2: game wrecker. And he only played a short a minimum

944
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Speaker 2: of snaps before he was hurt, So huge question marks

945
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Speaker 2: about him. Yeah, but they were they were. I know, Brent,

946
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Speaker 2: I seem to remember you.

947
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Speaker 1: I liked him, Yeah, I liked his college tape.

948
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Speaker 2: He had some tape that looked pretty good for Arkansas,

949
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Speaker 2: and some people were like, we kind of stole him,

950
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Speaker 2: but we have yet to see it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Mark in West senecon next. Let's punch

952
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: him up here. What's that Mark?

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Speaker 14: Hey, Chris Steve, why are you today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Good good?

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Speaker 14: As far as your question goes, I think if the

957
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Speaker 14: decision was made in the vacuum just on head coach, yeah,

958
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Speaker 14: they can wait. But the risk that they're running is

959
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Speaker 14: bring in the DC or off. Oh see, they're going

960
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 14: to want to bring in after they make that decision

961
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Speaker 14: on the head coach, and I think where they're at

962
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Speaker 14: it seems to be almost the poor gone conclusion that

963
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Speaker 14: they're going to go for an offensive mind at the

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Speaker 14: head coaching position. So my question is, because I think

965
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Speaker 14: it's going to be a huge decision who's going to

966
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Speaker 14: be the DC? And Chris, you had an interesting scenario

967
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Speaker 14: the other day where you proposed daball with Davis Webb

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Speaker 14: and Jim Schwartz. I find that intriguing.

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Speaker 1: We were just spitballing here. We don't know anything, but

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Speaker 1: we know Davis Webb has at least worked with day Ball.

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Speaker 14: Right right, and those three together I think would be intriguing.

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Speaker 14: But my question is, do you guys have any idea

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Speaker 14: or any preferences or who the best candidates are for DC?

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Speaker 14: And where's Brian Flora is at? Is there any chance

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Speaker 14: do you think any chance that they could ever get

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Speaker 14: him here is the DC.

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Speaker 1: No, he just re upped with Minnesota after a head

978
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Speaker 1: coaching job did not surface for him, so he's re

979
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Speaker 1: upped with them, So he's he's no longer on the list,

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00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: But thanks.

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Speaker 2: Mar It's it's a good point, Mark, And I was

982
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Speaker 2: talking to Brownie during this last commercial break about you know,

983
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: if they get a young guy or an old guy.

984
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Speaker 2: An older coach with more years of experience will have

985
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Speaker 2: a longer list of possibilities for coordinators underneath him, as

986
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Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator, and a young

987
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Speaker 2: guy it a lot, in my view, a lot of

988
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: the interview process will be centered around who he will

989
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 2: bring in to help him. A young guy is gonna

990
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 2: need help, right, somebody's got to be in the building here,

991
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: and who does he know that he knows is gonna

992
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: come over as a coordinator. And you're right, if it's

993
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Speaker 2: an offensive guy, if it's Clint Kubiak or Yudinsky or

994
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 2: Shield House or any of these guys that are new, hot,

995
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: young minds, who's gonna be their coordinator on the other

996
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: side of the ball. Yeah, if it's a defensive guy,

997
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: who's going to be his offensive coordinator. Right, That's just

998
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: you know, think about that. If you get a young

999
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: quarterback or any head coach, if you get Jim Schwartz,

1000
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Speaker 2: if Schwartzey comes up and he's that, who's his offensive

1001
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: coordinator going to be? That's those are huge questions and

1002
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: that's where it centers around.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing you can say is Schwartz has

1004
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: interviewed twice now for the Browns head coaching job, and

1005
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: now the Browns are running through these younger assistants like

1006
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Speaker 1: Shieldhouse is on their list. They're going to talk to

1007
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: him today in LA And if Schwartz gets passed over

1008
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: for that job, he's not going back to Cleveland, and

1009
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: he might suddenly be available for whom the Bill's name

1010
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: head coach. Another guy I would consider as Jimmy Leonard,

1011
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: the former safety for the Bills, obviously played most of

1012
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: his career with the Jets under Rex Ryan, then went

1013
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin to coach there. He's now a defensive assistant

1014
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: with Denver. Had been has been a play caller at

1015
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: the college lefl defensively and did very well at Wisconsin.

1016
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Speaker 1: I would be interested in him as a defensive coordinator

1017
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: candidate here. I think he'd be pretty good. Anybody that

1018
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: can teach a guy that's never played safety before that

1019
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: position while playing the position as a player, which is

1020
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Speaker 1: what he did with George Wilson. Here, the guy is

1021
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: a teacher. I was no debating it.

1022
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Speaker 2: Years and years. Well, I don't know how many years ago.

1023
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Speaker 2: You can probably do the math. I can't remember. Lee Evans,

1024
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver here in Buffalo, came out of Wisconsin and

1025
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Speaker 2: we were going to do some off season trips back

1026
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Speaker 2: to these guys' homecown where they came from. So we

1027
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Speaker 2: traveled to Wisconsin and we were talking to Oh gosh,

1028
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Speaker 2: who is the head coach of Wisconsin was so good

1029
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember. I was sitting in his office and

1030
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Speaker 2: we were talking about Lee Evans and all things he did,

1031
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: and I said, well, how about your guys now? And

1032
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: he goes like, he goes, I got to tell you,

1033
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: I got a guy here that's going to be really good.

1034
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Speaker 2: I love him. He probably won't get drafted. But his name.

1035
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: He's talking about the guy we're talking about, So he goes,

1036
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: it's he's been. Jimmy Leonard has been on the radar

1037
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Speaker 2: for coaches for decades decades, both as a player now

1038
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: as a coach. So Jimmy Leonard has been on this

1039
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Speaker 2: trajectory his entire adult life. So I'm surprised he hasn't

1040
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't want it, or maybe he hasn't, you know,

1041
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: gotten the spot where he's in a role that gets

1042
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: him noticed by the higher up by ownership. But he's

1043
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Speaker 2: been on a list for a long time as a

1044
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: as a defensive mind that has something on the ball.

1045
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: And the other high name that was out there making

1046
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: the rounds was Al Harris, the defensive backs coach for

1047
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: Chicago under Dennis Allen, who's the DC there for the Bears.

1048
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: Al Harris was a defensive of the cornerbacks coach in Dallas.

1049
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Speaker 2: Got a lot out of those guys, and he's very

1050
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: well thought of his leadership role. His leadership style seems

1051
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Speaker 2: to remind me of Mike Tomlin. He is a guy

1052
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: that commands respect just by the way he is. So

1053
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Speaker 2: so hopefully there's some guys out there. There's some guys

1054
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully those names help you. Mark. Let's go to Kathy

1056
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo next. What's up, Kathy?

1057
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Speaker 15: Hey, how are you guys doing this? You know my

1058
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 15: guts her Leslie Fraser. I mean, I don't know what

1059
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 15: happened because he he was head coach and defensive coordinator

1060
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Speaker 15: for the right I mean, and then it was like

1061
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 15: an announcement of mate that he was going to take

1062
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Speaker 15: a year off, and then mcjermy took over that position.

1063
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Speaker 15: So I don't know if that was dicey there. I mean,

1064
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Speaker 15: maybe you guys could talk about a little bit, but

1065
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Speaker 15: unless her, I mean, he's the assistant head coach for the.

1066
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Speaker 1: Seahawks, right, Yeah, I don't.

1067
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Speaker 15: Know if you guys didn't have talked about that at all,

1068
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Speaker 15: or I missed.

1069
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Speaker 1: It, you know, I no, no, we haven't. We haven't

1070
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Speaker 1: discussed Leslie Frasier. And thanks for the call, Kathy. The

1071
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Speaker 1: Bills can't talk to him either right now until after

1072
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. If they had any interest in doing so,

1073
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Speaker 1: my feeling is they don't. I think there was some

1074
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Speaker 1: disconnect there between Sean and Leslie, which led to the

1075
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Speaker 1: parting of ways that we witnessed there a few years ago.

1076
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Speaker 1: And then, as you correctly remembered, Kathy, Sean took over

1077
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Speaker 1: the play calling duties on defense for the twenty twenty

1078
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Speaker 1: three season, before then handing them to Bobby Babbage. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we'll ever get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the full story there and why there was a disconnect,

1081
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: but there was it. You know, it was unfortunate the

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: way it ends. Did I think I think they're looking

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: younger than that. I think Leslie is he's over sixty

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: years old. Now, not that that should not that that

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01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: should exclude him from consideration, but based on the initial

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01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: list of candidates, it would seem they're staying sub sub

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Speaker 1: age sixty. I believe Anna Rumo has been the oldest

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Speaker 1: candidate at fifty seven or fifty eight. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know that we would remove him from consideration. Who knows.

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01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: We could get to the end of the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's getting interviewed.

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Speaker 2: He's sixty six years old, yeah, or thereabouts, born in

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Speaker 2: fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Mike in Rochester next. What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's absolutely crazy that dables being considered.

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.

1099
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: As did anybody watch the Giants the past two years.

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01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 4: They've been an absolute disaster and almost every way, I mean,

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 4: he's twenty and forty. Multiple fourth quarter leads belown this year,

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: which is already an issue for us. You know, the

1103
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: meltdowns on the sidelines, the temper cantrums, the disagreements with players, coaches.

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: I just don't see why we would even entertain it.

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01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: It's not even like anybody's really bringing him in and

1106
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: being serious about hiring him as a head coach. So

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Speaker 4: why would we?

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's probably because of the success he

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: had in developing Josh Allen. I mean, you can go

1110
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: back and look two of his most two of Allen's

1111
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: most productive seasons were in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Everybody has success with Josh Hallen, you got to have

1113
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: something else to fall back on. And then on top

1114
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 4: of that, like he couldn't get Daniel Jones, right, he

1115
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 4: leaves and he looks like one of the best quarterbacks

1116
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: in the league before he gets hurt.

1117
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: He went to the hold on, he went to the

1118
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: playoffs with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you remember Daniels Jones didn't really have

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Speaker 4: a strong year that year. He I think he threw

1121
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: less than twenty touchdown passes. A little bit uh hokey

1122
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: gadgety kind of you know, it wasn't sustainable and obviously so,

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Speaker 4: and then he flamed out and you know, went to

1124
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Speaker 4: the Colts and did very well. And I just think

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Speaker 4: that the only thing that Dable has going for him is,

1126
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 4: oh yeah, way back when he had two good seasons

1127
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 4: with Josh Allen, Well, guess what, Josh Allens had plenty

1128
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: of good seasons since then. And I think New York

1129
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 4: was a disaster. It was an absolute disaster if you

1130
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 4: asked me that. I mean, they're one of the worst

1131
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 4: teams in the league the last two years, and there

1132
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 4: was dysfunction everywhere, and he didn't help himself much by,

1133
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: you know, looking like a jerk on the sideline every game.

1134
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Speaker 2: So that's just my take to your opinion, Mike, some

1135
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: of it would be, Yeah, everybody's successful when they have

1136
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: Josh Allen the quarterback. How success successful is Josh with

1137
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: just anybody at coordinator?

1138
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: He won with Jalen Hurts and Tua Tongue of Iolo

1139
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: at Alabama won a national title.

1140
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: He's the guy that he was a guy calling the

1141
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: plays when they benched Hurts for Tua in the National

1142
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: championship game at halftime and won the game.

1143
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: So he was calling those plays and he has five

1144
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings as an assistant coach.

1145
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: I will yes, it did not go well in New York,

1146
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: and that would be part of the pro the interview process.

1147
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean you sit down, say what what's going on?

1148
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: What happened in New York?

1149
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: And more importantly, what did you learn? Yeah, you've been

1150
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: a head coach before, what did you learn from that experience?

1151
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: How's it going to be different? You might do differently now, Yeah,

1152
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: how's it going to be different here? So, and I

1153
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: think you can argue that the roster. The roster in

1154
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: New York lacked talent. It wasn't outside of Saquon Barkley,

1155
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: who then was who then left because the team chose

1156
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: not to invest in him. You know yet, Yeah, you

1157
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: had a couple of high draft choices, but the organization

1158
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: missed on their left tackle, Evan Neil, who can barely

1159
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: play guard. So they never really had a good offensive line.

1160
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: You want to argue about the defensive front, I'll listen

1161
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: to that they should have been better on defense because

1162
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: their defensive front was good in terms of pure talent.

1163
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: I don't think was dable calling plays at all. At

1164
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: any point.

1165
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: I think he was on offense and then he yielded

1166
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: them to Mike Kafka. I think this past year if

1167
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: I remember right. So, yeah, but that could also that

1168
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: could also be a lesson in some of the pitfalls

1169
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: you could fall into with the first time head coach.

1170
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: That's right.

1171
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: It may not go right, so you know, I Mike,

1172
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: you're entitled to your opinion. You don't want him, that's fine,

1173
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what they decide. Ultimately, let's go

1174
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: to David in Alden. Let me pull them up here.

1175
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: What's going on with my cursor? Hold on, it looks

1176
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: like my screen, My screen froze. Can we pull up

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: David and Alden for me? Please? My screen froze here? Okay,

1178
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: all right, hey David, what do you got for us?

1179
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 11: Sorry about that, guys, thanks for taking my call. I

1180
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 11: appreciate it. I might have missed the comments. But has

1181
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 11: Frank Reich been brought up as a head coaching candidate

1182
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 11: in any way? Yeah?

1183
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: Not by the team and the team, but obviously callers

1184
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: and stuff.

1185
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1186
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: Did I could you?

1187
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 10: Just?

1188
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 11: I hate to regurgitate, but is he not available? Not interested?

1189
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: That available? Yes? Interested? Who knows? I don't. Yeah, and

1190
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: I know he's probably he's probably a little bit disinterested

1191
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: in coming in and grinding away eighteen hour days as

1192
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: a coordinator, would be my guess. Which is the kind

1193
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: of the the phase these guys go through after they've

1194
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: been a head coach, particularly like Frank, who is a

1195
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: head coach fired, then got hired right away again and

1196
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: got fired right away after like six games, So he

1197
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: might be a little bit ready to take a breath

1198
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: and do something different for a hot minute. But yes,

1199
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: fans and callers have been talking about Frank not only

1200
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: as a head coach but also as an offensive coordinator candidate. Yeah,

1201
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 2: don't know that he'd be interested in doing either, to

1202
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: be very honest.

1203
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's kind of where that's is. He has

1204
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: not been mentioned as a candidate for the Bills as

1205
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: off yet. Got to take a break here. More of

1206
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: your phone calls when we get back. We're wide open

1207
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: for those, So stay where you are if you're holding

1208
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: at eight h three zero five fifty, and we'll get

1209
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: to you when we return here. On One Bill's Live,

1210
01:08:49,080 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: presented by Colt of Health, it's Buffalo Bill's rating with

1211
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: only four head coaching jobs open, can the Bills wait

1212
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: for the guy they want, even if it's after the

1213
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? If you let us know, ADDO three zero

1214
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: five fifty five fifty two five fifty two Max in

1215
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo next, what's up?

1216
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: Max?

1217
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, Thank you guys for taking my call today.

1218
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 16: I just wanted to say the popular opinion around here

1219
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 16: has been either Brian Dable or Joe Brady being our

1220
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 16: head coach for the next season. And I just think

1221
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 16: for this team, we need a new face in that

1222
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 16: locker room, an offensive guy that'll improve the play calling.

1223
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 16: Improve not just running up the middle with Cook, you know,

1224
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 16: two times and then finally launching a deep ball. We

1225
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 16: need someone who's who's going to be held the guy

1226
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 16: to higher standards in the locker room. That'll just improve

1227
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 16: more winning as you see with say like Mike McDonald

1228
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 16: or Ben Johnson right away taking it from year one.

1229
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 8: Right to the playoffs.

1230
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Speaker 16: So I just think a new a new guy on

1231
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 16: the in on the head coaching roster will improve.

1232
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 1: All right, all right, fair enough. I mean, I think

1233
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of caller support for Kubiak. We've

1234
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: taken a lot of calls on him now he has

1235
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: not been officially made a candidate by the Bills, but

1236
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: as we know, they can't talk to him yet. The

1237
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: most maybe that'll come and do.

1238
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: Course, the most familiar name besides Joe Brady is Brian Dabel.

1239
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: He's a Buffalo guy and was here and we saw

1240
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: him develop Josh through the first two or three, three

1241
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: or four years of his career, of Josh's career, and

1242
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: it was spectacularly successful offensively. So there's that going on.

1243
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: And yeah, Mike McDonald, it was his second year taking

1244
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: this team to the Super Bowl, just so you know.

1245
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: But to me, that's kind of the time frame this

1246
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: guy's going to be looking at the new guy. You

1247
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: look back over the course of history, George Seaffert took

1248
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: the Niners to the Super Bowl although they were just

1249
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: coming off the Super Bowl win or appearance or thereabouts,

1250
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: and he took them to the Super Bowl and won it.

1251
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 2: A lot of head coaches, as spectacularly good as they are,

1252
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: it takes them that year to get it going. But

1253
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: they're still very good and everything's changing, and I think, wow, okay,

1254
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: here we go, and he hits the ground running within

1255
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: the first two certainly the first three years you have

1256
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: expectations of being there, and I think if.

1257
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: You want, if you want a head coach that doesn't

1258
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: run it on first down. Brian Dable in twenty twenty

1259
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: one led the NFL in passing on first down. Now

1260
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: the league has changed since twenty twenty one. It is

1261
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: a much more run heavy league. I think that's safe

1262
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: to say, and defenses have tried to get a little

1263
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: bigger to better defend the run because of it.

1264
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: With all the love and respect we have for players

1265
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 2: who've been here, he led the league and thrown on

1266
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 2: first down with seven Singletary is running back, not James

1267
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: Cook or date Saquon bar That would change things. So

1268
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of that in that. And he

1269
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: had Steph Diggs as a wide out, and you know

1270
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: he had some guy He had some dudes, John Brown,

1271
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanders, right, So so it was a little different world.

1272
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: But that's you get some guys like Andy Reid and

1273
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: maybe if you want to throw Brian Dabole into that,

1274
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy and Pittsburgh they want to sling it all

1275
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: over the yard. They want to throw it. There's head coaches.

1276
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: Sean Payton in Denver, is that when he had Drew Brees.

1277
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: Drew Brees thrown for six thousand yards. There's been eight

1278
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: seasons in the NFL history where a quarterback threw for

1279
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: six thousand yards?

1280
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: Is it five?

1281
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think Drew Brees has. If there's six of them,

1282
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: he's got five of them. Yeah. That's Sean Payton as

1283
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 2: his head coach. So yeah, it's there's some guys who

1284
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: just do that. And if you want one of those guys, well,

1285
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: here you go. You're gonna get your chance to pick one.

1286
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, nine quarterbacks with five thousand plus yard seasons, six thousand,

1287
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: I said six thousand. I know, I think it's five.

1288
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's thrown for six. Breeze has five.

1289
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: Oh to your point, five out of nine five thousand

1290
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: plus yard seasons.

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Speaker 2: I was out way off, but I knew it was.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the sixth down. But it's five

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Speaker 2: thousand years seasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's move along and go to Cheryl and Amherst.

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Speaker 7: What's up, Cheryl, Hi, thanks for taking my car. I

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Speaker 7: really think and I fear that with a new stadium,

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Speaker 7: that we're going to have a really awful team. I

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Speaker 7: don't think. I I like Poogola because he brought the

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 7: team to Buffalo. But I don't think he knows that

1300
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 7: much about football, and he should have hit a lot

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 7: of people around him that does as fire as beam.

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 7: He's just he's he was good for the first couple

1303
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 7: of years and then after that he just went down hill.

1304
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 7: He hasn't really picked up a receivers for Allen and

1305
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 7: with me, I think they wasted that poor guy's time here.

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 7: He is a great quarterback, but can you imagine if

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 7: he had the wide receivers they can't get in front

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 7: of the in front of the past, the cornerbacks he

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01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 7: would have. He would have had like Drew Brees six

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 7: thousand yards and he hasn't. He's just they should have.

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01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 7: They should have fired, being when they fired McDermott, as

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 7: far as Poula going into the locker room and seeing

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 7: what kind of a locker room that was, You're going

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 7: to fire because they were upset. That's my thing. And

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01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 7: the one thing I can tell you now is they're

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01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 7: going to get the worst coach ever because they're not

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Speaker 7: doing their due diligent.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you can say that, Eryl, because

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,879
Speaker 1: they're taking their time, they're taking to everybody. They've interviewed

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: half a dozen candidates. There's really no end in sight.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what due diligence looks like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's due diligence to a t. I'm

1323
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: sorry you're very down on the Bill's fortunes here. Look,

1324
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: I understand your disappointment this season didn't end the way

1325
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: anybody wanted it to. But I think at the same

1326
01:15:54,040 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: time you have to I think people are maybe not

1327
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: understanding Terry Pegoula's description of the locker room and how

1328
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: he interpreted based on how we all have different interpretations

1329
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: of what all that emotion meant. It's clear, based on

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Speaker 1: Terry Pagoula's comments at the press conference last week, that

1331
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: he looked at that locker room and how distraught it

1332
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: was and for for him, he rolled the last six

1333
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: years of playoff disappointment into what he witnessed in that

1334
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: locker room kind of a repeat and it got to

1335
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: the point where it broke his team. He saw broken

1336
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: men in there emotionally after that game, and he had

1337
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: never seen that from his team before, which I think,

1338
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: to their credit, have been as resilient a team as

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: you could ask for the last eight years, and Sean

1340
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: McDermott deserves a ton of credit for that. But in

1341
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: his mind, this team had gone as far as they

1342
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: could go with Sean McDermott as their head coach. The

1343
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: team was wrecked emotionally after another playoff failure, and he

1344
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: felt new leadership was needed. To me, that was my

1345
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: interpretation of his look at the whole scenario. It wasn't

1346
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 1: just last Saturday afternoon. Last Saturday afternoon was the tipping

1347
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: point for Terry Bacoola in making this decision.

1348
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Speaker 2: And I know people it was probably true when Terry

1349
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: Pagoula bought the Bills, and we knew then and only

1350
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: then that they were going to be a Buffalo team forever,

1351
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: and everybody's was extremely grateful for that. And whether Terry

1352
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: knew when he bought the team I was thirteen or

1353
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 2: fourteen years ago, whether the football was blown up or

1354
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: stuffed is irrelevant, because Brown and I have seen it.

1355
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: He is neck He has been neck deep in Buffalo

1356
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: Bill's football at the highest levels for thirteen years. And

1357
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Speaker 2: just like I've seen other happen to other guys in

1358
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: the league, most notably like a guy like Jerry Jones,

1359
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: he can make all the fun you wanted Jerry Jones

1360
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: and how that's a circus down in Dallas. And because

1361
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: he interjects himself into everything, these guys spend a lot

1362
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 2: of time learning exactly what's going on. They've got a

1363
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: lot of experience. In fact, sometimes they've got more experience

1364
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: than the guys who they hire to do the job

1365
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: because they've been in the building for thirteen years. So

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Speaker 2: to think Terry Pagoula doesn't know what he's doing is ridiculous.

1367
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 2: He's been learning for thirteen years, watching these guys do

1368
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: it and being a part of it, and listening to

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01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 2: the conversations not only between himself and the guys he hired,

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Speaker 2: but the guys he hired and everybody else on other

1371
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: teams that are in the same position. He's heard about

1372
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: he's heard the transactions, he's talked about contracts, he's heard

1373
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: player valuations. He's traveled to scout players, he's traveled to

1374
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 2: do interviews. I mean, he's he has the highest amount

1375
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: of preparation you can have for making job, making choices

1376
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: like they're about to make. So I got he's more

1377
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: qualifying than anybody I know. I got to tell you

1378
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: he knows more, and it's more qualified than anybody you

1379
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: know to make this higher.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's already gone through this process twice, just as

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01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: Bill's owner alone, so actually more than that, So he's

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,520
Speaker 1: so different coaches for them.

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: I feel yeah, so I feel, you know, I feel

1384
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: really good about their ability to get this exactly right.

1385
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Ken in Buffalo next. What's up Ken?

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Speaker 17: Hey, good afternoon, fellows.

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Speaker 2: How we doing right?

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Speaker 17: So my part, obviously I could be better. I don't

1389
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 17: know if I still any better. Having watched the FC

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01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 17: Championship game, it's like the Patriots took our pathway. You know,

1391
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 17: it was the weakest NC seal I've seen in sometime,

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01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 17: and they did what we were supposed to do. But

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Speaker 17: that aside, I want to jump into the discussion that

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01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 17: you all have that's ensuing as it relates to the

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 17: head coaching search. In my view, Brian Dabele would make

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01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 17: the most sense for a couple of reasons, no shortage reasons,

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Speaker 17: i should say, but specifically, not only his experience and

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 17: familiarity with Josh Allen, but no other coach helped to

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Speaker 17: quicken and facilitate his development. Then did Brian Dabele. Additionally,

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Speaker 17: I thought he got a that rap in New York

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01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 17: in the sense that you guys alluded to it already,

1402
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 17: but the organization did not commit to sa Kwan Barkley,

1403
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 17: who following his release from the Giants, he proceeded to

1404
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 17: run for two thousand yards and help propel the Eagles

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 17: to a Super Bowl. Additionally, although Daniel Jones struggled a lot,

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 17: I'm inclined to believe the success he demonstrated and experience

1407
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 17: with Indianapolis had a lot to do with the work

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01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 17: that Dabe put in with him. So I'm in crying

1409
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 17: to look at things from that vantage point. So I

1410
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 17: think he makes the most sense. The other thing I

1411
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 17: remember about him, too, is that he was very good

1412
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 17: at designing plays for players. Emanuel Sanders, who's a wide receiver,

1413
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 17: I believe I called his name I War number one.

1414
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 17: He commented about that when his career is over, how

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 17: Dabe will call him on the phone and say, hey, listen,

1416
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 17: I'm working on something for you right now and then,

1417
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 17: and Santa said he would get to practice and Dabe

1418
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 17: will have some design for him. We didn't see that

1419
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 17: a lot with Joe Brady. With all due respect, we

1420
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 17: had players who were underutilized and who consequently underperformed. The

1421
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 17: other thing that I think is favorable in terms of

1422
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 17: Dable is that he's the one coach who I've actually

1423
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 17: seen kind of light Josh up. You know, he really

1424
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 17: let into him a couple of times on the sidelines,

1425
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 17: point to his head, you're not thinking. And that's what

1426
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 17: Josh Allen needs. He needs somebody to keep him, you know, focused,

1427
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 17: and to also you know, call him out when he's not.

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01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 17: So I think that's critically important. And it's also worth

1429
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 17: noting that Dabel hand picked Jackson Heart, which was a

1430
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 17: really good pick quite apparently got through for twenty four

1431
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 17: touchdowns because five in exceptions. So I like Dable as

1432
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 17: the guy. Plus his familiarity being from the community in

1433
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 17: the new stadium, I think all those factors could culminate

1434
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 17: very very well.

1435
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 17: The only point I want to ask, point I want

1437
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 17: to bring out and ask your thoughts is Josh's role

1438
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 17: in the interview process. That was an interesting piece. I

1439
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 17: read that question how objective the process could be, when

1440
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 17: in fact, you would think one of the questions would

1441
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 17: be to a head coaching candidate, how are you going

1442
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 17: to handle Josh's Tennessee sometimes to you know, get off

1443
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 17: in a tangent where he's not making the sort of

1444
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 17: plays that he's expected to exhibit and play giving his

1445
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 17: role as a franchise leader at quarterback. So I wonder

1446
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 17: what your take would be on that. And lastly, you know, hey,

1447
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 17: next year has to be our year because this was

1448
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 17: the weakest playoff field. Next year we got to bring

1449
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 17: our best. But I'll pause for the cause and let

1450
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 17: you guys time in at qudingly.

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01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: Thank THANKSJN. Look, with respect to the dynamics of the

1452
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: interview setting, there's no way for us to know how

1453
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: that's being conducted exactly. And what I mean by that

1454
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: is some of the questions that you're hoping are being

1455
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: asked concerning how they would handle Josh in certain situations.

1456
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe they asked Josh to step out of

1457
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: the room for five minutes and ask those very questions

1458
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: so the coach can speak frankly or the coaching candidate

1459
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: can speak frankly. Is that being done. We don't know,

1460
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: but maybe it is so they can cover that base

1461
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: and ask those questions and get the answers that they're

1462
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: looking for. With the full confidence that the coaching candidate

1463
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: is speaking frankly about Josh knowing he's no longer in

1464
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: the room. Yeah, we talked about potentially couching his comments.

1465
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,839
Speaker 2: We talked about that in the late last week about

1466
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: how that might work. And on when the group or

1467
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: the committee let's call it to a committee of Bill's

1468
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: executives and includes Josh, got together and on they're traveling

1469
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: to Florida, probably ostensibly together, and they've got time when

1470
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: these between candidates, or before they even started with these candidates,

1471
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: they've got time to talk about how it should go.

1472
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: And certainly they are. They know that they've got to

1473
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: have conversations about Josh and how the coach is going

1474
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: to handle him and stuff. And Josh has to know

1475
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: there's gonna be sometimes when he needs to be gone,

1476
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 2: so they'll they'll handle all that. That's that's just logistics,

1477
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: that's housekeeping stuff around. Certainly, certainly day Ball was a

1478
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: really good coach for Josh Allen when he was here.

1479
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: You're right, Ken's right. Brownie alluded to it, and I

1480
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: remember it distinctly, And he coached him hard. He coached

1481
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: him hard during games. He treated him like a young player.

1482
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: Who made a dumb mistake and Josh got better from it.

1483
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: You're right, New York. You got to get to the bottom,

1484
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 2: all of us. We have to get to the bottom.

1485
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: If Brian day Ball is a serious candidate, which I

1486
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 2: think he is, you got to get to the bottom

1487
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 2: of what he thinks happened in New York. What happened

1488
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: and how much ownership he takes that and what he

1489
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: learned from it is crucial, right Another their aspect of this,

1490
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 2: and this is not just Brian Dabole. We talked about

1491
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: it earlier in the show as well. Who's gonna be

1492
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: Brian Dabeles offensive coordinator? Who's gonna be his defensive coordinator?

1493
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 2: What's gonna be? You know what is gonna be different

1494
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: about the kind of player he wants as opposed to

1495
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: the kind of player Sean McDermott wants. How's he going

1496
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: to be involved in the evaluation process players that are

1497
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: not on the team who might be, and the players

1498
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: who are on the team who maybe shouldn't be. All

1499
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: of that goes into these interview processes. And day Ball

1500
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 2: has been through this with the Giants that experience and

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Speaker 2: it didn't go well, But that's gonna help him, I

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Speaker 2: would think, in his next position, wherever it may be,

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Speaker 2: whether it's here in Buffalo or someplace else. And yeah,

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01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: that's all part of this process. But what happened in

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Speaker 2: New York, how he handles that, how much ownership he

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Speaker 2: takes of it, and what his explanations are, and what

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01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: his staff is going to look like are questions. Maybe

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Speaker 2: one and two.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here. We'll see if we can

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Speaker 1: squeeze a phone call or two in when we get

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Speaker 1: back here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 18: Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve tasking

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Speaker 1: with you call it talking about the head coaching search

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01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: and the Bills afford to wait for the guy that

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Speaker 1: they want, even if it's after the Super Bowl. Four

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01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: jobs left open. Bills I think are easily the most

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01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: attractive of those four. But we go to the phones

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Speaker 1: and see what you think. And to Ryan in Toronto,

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Speaker 1: what's up Ryan?

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Speaker 6: Thank Chris Steve, Happy Monday. Honestly, guys, waiting on Creebac

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Speaker 6: is a bad mistake, if you ask me. First of all,

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01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 6: you got to wait two more weeks and that might

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01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 6: be too late for the kreeback to come in and

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01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 6: build a roster. I mean the coaching staff one not Secondly,

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 6: it's not a first of all, he could say no.

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Speaker 6: And if you look at it, past head coaches like

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Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels, Mike McDaniels, Matt Tafisia, Brian Dabel, Frank Wright,

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Speaker 6: all these were off the codeinators and deep in the

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Speaker 6: coordinators and they've failed to being a head coach. So

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Speaker 6: this is not guaranteed. And I honestly think they should

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Speaker 6: just go and get somebody right now and start building

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Speaker 6: it right now because CREBAC is not guaranteed and file

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Speaker 6: a tree back. Why would I come to Buffalo and

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Speaker 6: deal with being and terry when I have a small

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Speaker 6: window to win a championship or something like that. I'd

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Speaker 6: rather go to Vegas. Thanks and taking my calls.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if there is no window

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Speaker 2: in Vegas, I mean there's none. They're not gonna win

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Speaker 2: in Vegas until they get a guy that takes snaps Gino.

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Speaker 1: They do draft first.

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Speaker 2: Overall, Yeah, they can get the kid Mendoza, good for them. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but that window has yet to present itself, let alone

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Speaker 2: be open.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention the fact that you have an owner

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Speaker 1: and Mark Davis, who could jettison you after one season,

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Speaker 1: which he has done. He did it to Antonio Pierce,

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01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: he did it to the GM Tom Telesco, who came

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Speaker 1: in for one year and then was promptly punted.

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Speaker 2: So yes, and you're right, there are no There are

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Speaker 2: no guarantees with anybody. But in my view, there is

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Speaker 2: something to be said for the staff that the coach

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Speaker 2: puts together if you wait two weeks to do it.

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Speaker 2: But two weeks, I mean two weeks, that's to me,

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Speaker 2: that's nothing. And I'm not saying you're gonna hire him

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Speaker 2: on the day you're the first interview and he's come in.

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Speaker 2: But even if you wait a month, if he's the

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Speaker 2: right guy, that month is nothing. You're gonna get the staff.

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Speaker 2: He's got to get his staff put together and all that.

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Speaker 2: That's the real crucial thing, the head coach guy. If

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Speaker 2: he's the right guy, I don't care if if you

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01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,839
Speaker 2: have to wait a month, it doesn't matter. The staff

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: may be a problem later on, but you can give

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Speaker 2: all those guys that you want, or you can give

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01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: them bumps and give him new titles and presto changer.

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Speaker 2: You can have the staff you want so, I'm not impatient.

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Speaker 2: But if you do wait to talk to him, what

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Speaker 2: does that say about to the other candidates who are

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01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: waiting to find out if they're a problem. He had

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Speaker 2: to talk to him first before he hired me. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but they do want to talk to that guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I wouldn't be surprised if he gets added

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Speaker 1: to the list. So we'll see what tomorrow brings on

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Speaker 1: the latest on the head coaching Surcher and Steve and

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Speaker 1: I will be here to talk to you about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Add one, We'll see you then.