WEBVTT - Brenna Jordan and The Exorcist CURSE?! 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:13.440 What's that. It's spooky, joky. I'm really sure it's dead. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:14.960 It's coming this way. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:29.040 Wait a minute, I'm ghosted. Nanda's please okay, boo, it's 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:37.800 me Roz and oilcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.360 podcast where I talk to people that I like about 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.800 the Para normal, Oh my god, the Sensation. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.640 Brenna Jordan is going to be on the show. You 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.200 know her, okay, you know her quite a few years 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:59.400 back now. She first went viral for being real, real 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:05.120 feel and fabulous dancing doing a very Gaga kind of 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:11.199 moment behind a reporter. It's everything. I love her. She's 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.119 to go buy a different first name. But now she's 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.880 going by Brenda and she's she's great, She's fabulous. She's 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:23.520 a fabulous lady. I am going on touring cause you 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.480 don't know. Of course, I always record these much further 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.720 in advance than when you were listening to this, But 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:34.520 I should have by now released probably about thirty dates 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.440 of American cities that I am going to. And I'm 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.480 doing stand up comedy in gay places that everyone you know, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.160 allies are welcome at. No children, but you know, allies 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.200 and gay people and everyone else whatever that might mean. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.520 You can come if you're cool, if you like my 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.440 sense of humor, not gonna talk about ghosts. Maybe a 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.200 little bit, who knows, we'll see, But I'm just so 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.800 excited about and I I'm gonna start leaving for a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:08.000 couple of dates in April and May. I've got other 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.120 dates that I'm doing, not as part of that tour 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:16.000 in June, Pride, July, August. I'm I'm going all over 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.639 the place. And you know, my least favorite thing is 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.320 when people are like, why didn't you come to this place? Well, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:25.480 because I did. So Just if you're interested in seeing me, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.120 go check out my new website which is called roz 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:35.160 Hernandez Tour dot com, or my Instagram. You'll you can 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.480 find it all just through Instagram all that stuff. Okay, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.640 all right, hey, let's talk about ghosts because I will 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.680 say this episode today, Brenda and I we just get chatty, honey. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.440 You know, we got a little off topic at times. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:53.400 But the themous ghost isn't it always. This is a 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.839 story that was emailed to me by a listener named Stacy. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:03.000 Thank you, Stacey. Stacy, how a New York City ghost experience? 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.080 See this is what I love. Okay, I have manipulated 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.120 all the New York City people into sending me their stories. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.280 This was my plan. The whole time, I kept saying, 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.400 we don't ever get New York stories. Now I have 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.400 gotten so many of them, and I love every single 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.960 one of them, So Cape, I'm coming. Where else should 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.239 I do it? You know? I love doctor stories. That's 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:30.040 like hospitals. We never get hospital stories. Are they even haunted? 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.840 Are there even ghosts in hospitals? I doubt it. Let's 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.840 see if that gets a bunch of nurses to start 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.680 sending ghost stories. Let's see. Okay, here we go. This 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:44.760 is a New York story from Stacy. I'm from Lower 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.760 New York State originally and after college. The first job 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.680 I was offered was in Midtown Manhattan. I lived just 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.560 a little too far away to commute, but had a 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.360 friend with a spare bedroom available for me to use 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.440 rent free while I waited for two months until a 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.240 room in a permanent apartment opened up. It's a long story, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.040 but the guy that lived in the room left unexpectedly, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.840 but had paid for a few months rent in advance 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.200 via VA benefits or something. He was a guy around 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.640 my age, but was on leave from the Marines. I 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.040 think it's been about fifteen years. I don't remember the details. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.920 That's okay, Stacy, Okay, So Stacy says my friend stayed 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.359 with his girlfriend most nights, and the other roommate was 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.880 almost never home either, so I was home alone a lot. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.520 It seemed fine at first, but I started getting the 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.120 feeling I was being watched. I chalked it up to 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.440 being on the first floor on the corner of a 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.800 relatively busy but residential street and tried to push the 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.039 feeling away. It started to feel as if someone was 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.039 watching me while I was in the shower, and then 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.800 when I went between the bathroom and bedroom, so I 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.640 would shut the bedroom door quickly behind me, which really 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.640 felt like I was shutting whatever it was that was 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:10.080 looking at me. One night, I felt even more anxious 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.880 and tried to finish up in the bathroom as quickly 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.120 as possible to get into the bedroom. As I was 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.960 rounding the corner to finally shut that door behind me, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:26.520 a female voice whispered in my right ear boo in 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:32.679 a mocking tone. I absolutely lost my mind. I flew 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.760 into the bedroom and slammed the door behind me. I 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.400 piled a chair, bags anything I could find in front 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.440 of the door and called the friend I was going 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.359 to be moving in with at the end of the month. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.880 I slept on an air mattress in her bedroom for 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.839 three weeks. When my friend asked why I left, I 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.640 didn't want to freak him out, so I didn't tell 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.159 him at first, but finally I let it slip. While 0:05:55.360 --> 0:06:00.240 he and the marine roommate knew all about the ghost. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.440 The ghost might have a crush on the marine, as 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:08.599 she would only affect him, but never negatively. We guessed 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.039 she may have been furious to see me there and 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.400 not him, and decided to let me know it. I 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.359 hope this satisfies the need for a New York story. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.719 The sarcastic, mocking tone of the ghost really gets to 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.000 me all these years later. Damn, that girl said, who 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.640 is this trying to get in the way of me 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:37.600 and my man? That's cute? Thank you so much, Stacy. Okay, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:46.440 let's talk spookiness with the sweet, sweet, hilarious Brenna Jordan 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:57.600 on with the show Betta. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.720 Yeah, hi are you. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.320 I'm so happy you're here. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.160 I love that we're both wearing purple. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.800 I do too. I don't. I don't think i've ever 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.440 met you, and I'm happy to meet you. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.080 I have never met you either, but I feel like 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.920 I have because I have watched a lot on you. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.080 Is that weird to say? 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.000 No, I've watched a lot on you? Okay, well, then 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.960 now we are even, we've manifested. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.400 This feels like it feels like when you're you meet 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.440 someone on hinge and then you do the whole stalking 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.640 thing before you have to person. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.600 Yeah, yeah, it's scary. Are you dating? 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:37.480 Yeah? 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.120 Yeah? How's that then? 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:40.240 Amazing? 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.080 Good? 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:46.760 Yeah? Good? Yeah, good for you. I am very lucky. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:48.120 Are you in a relationship? 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:50.960 I don't know what to call it? 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.800 Oh, you got a situation going on? 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.000 No, it's more than that. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.440 It's no, this is good. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.800 I literally said. Well, I was like, okay, don't talk 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.480 about it. You know, very new. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.320 We'll talk about ghosts. We don't talk about it. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.200 Well, hopefully he doesn't ghost me. I'm just kidding he won't. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:08.840 It's too late. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.640 I am the queen of getting ghosted. Well, me too, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.480 I was what about paranormal ghosts? 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:20.440 Well, what about them? 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.119 Because you see what do you think? Do you believe 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:22.480 in them? 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.560 I mean I have lots of questions. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.880 Of course, well we shut we all show. I mean, 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.080 what's your deal ghosts? 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.839 I My thing about ghosts is like what are they 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.880 doing in their free time? 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:36.040 Like? 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.200 What does a day to day look like from the 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.520 perspective of a ghost? Are we especially they're haunting a house? 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.280 You know? Are they there being a ghost right? 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.679 Like when they're not being seen or heard? Where are 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:49.600 they hanging out? 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:54.880 Is there like a green room for they all just 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.760 go there for a couple hours and then come back with. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.240 The Armenian Chasers? Oh my god, yeah, I know, yeah, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.480 I know, yeah, you've been there, We've been there. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:07.400 How old are you? 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.040 I am twenty five? 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.800 I feel like no, I feel like I've definitely had 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.600 twenty five year olds on this podcast. But I feel 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:24.000 like because I've been doing this since twenty eighteen, I graduated. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.960 Then See That's what I was gonna say, Like, I 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:31.000 think historically speaking, historically, you're probably like the youngest person, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.319 like you were probably born the most recent of anyone 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:36.400 that's ever been on. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.240 September twenty fifth, nineteen ninety nine, librasun Aries, Moon Gemini Rising. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.080 I don't know any of that stuff. Are you into horoscopes. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.640 No, No, I just know what my shit is because 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.080 of vanity, and I just want people to tell me 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.360 things about myself when they ask me, I like. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.920 My brain refuses to retain any of that stuff. People 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.800 are always late because it's I feel like lately it's 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.720 gotten real popular to ask what all your signs are? 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.480 I keep getting asked, and I'm like a thousand people 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.319 have told me, and I already forgot. Well. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.640 I had an encounter where one woman person asked me. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.760 What my woman birthday? That's what I identify as woman. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:19.200 Well thing. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.839 It was like she they moment, you know woman person, Okay, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.160 And so I was asked what my sign was. I 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.440 said libra and she immediately like threw the towel and 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:29.319 she was over with it. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.800 She didn't even I'm a Libra. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.840 Wait, you're what but your birthday September twenty fifth. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.560 On your October twentieth fear. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.120 So, I guess there's a difference between September libras and 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.480 October libras. Did you know that? 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.600 See? I don't like that divisiveness. I don't like that 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.000 in fighting. Yeah, I want to look at our similarity 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.040 because people will be like, oh, you were. This is 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:55.600 what people do. Oh you're au sagittarius. Oo. I got 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:56.720 a lookout for you. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:58.640 Oh you cry a lot, don't you. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.280 Yeah, stuff like that, most like everybody does all these 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:07.000 whatever it is. Oh you're creative, hut bitch. I live 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.120 in LA and I have bangs. Yes, I'm creative. Like 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.040 it's always some shit like that. Oh I bet you're intuitive. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.760 Well yeah, I'm fucking trans. I have to know where, Like, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.480 aren't we all intuitive exactly? 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.440 I mean they usually it's usually rebuttled by like the 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.480 most basic stuff that usually most people can relate to. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.360 I know, what is that book back there? But how 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:30.400 I keep looking at it? 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.120 Yes, it's a book called The Passionate Witch. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.520 Is it a fiction? It looks it looks antique? Okay. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.880 I ripped off a nail. Listen, Okay, I ripped off 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.040 a nail yesterday. I was on set of something and 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.840 it actually fell off, and I was in the bathroom 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.440 and I like set it down on a countertop and 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.959 then I forgot about it. And now I'm like, oh 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:53.440 my god. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:54.800 They're gonna found that nail. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.320 They're going to find they're going to do like some 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:58.960 kind of weird Passionate Witch. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.880 Crowd. They're going to wrap it in like a box 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.880 full of twide and send it into a river. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.720 G what is this book? The Passionate Witch? 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:08.920 Yeah? 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.120 Do you want me to look it up? Because I 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.400 don't know. I don't know. It's always been behind me. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.679 And really my eyes were just immediately drawn to that. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.400 There's really cute picture. My goodness, O, my god, that 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.760 what I'm doing. This woman is backing it up. Look, okay, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:30.000 this lady's about to give it to this man. Well, 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.120 he's about to give it to her. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:32.280 He's about to give it to her. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.800 Let's not forget about whoever this This guy is the 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 cop back here, and the damn horse is giving her 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:43.319 side eye. This bitch is crazy. She is the Passionate 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.480 Witch and she is here to get her life. Honey, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:48.120 is that the. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.200 Only image or illustration in the entire book? 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:50.520 Oh? 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.680 No? This? Did you imagine if that was the only 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:53.960 thing they chose to draw? 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.560 What is she doing? She said? Honey, you want just 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.800 a hand? Oh right here? 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.120 You want you know what? That's how it is. Sometimes 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.199 sometimes I'm just too tired. That's all you have to 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.200 do is just give a hand, eyes closed and all. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:13.720 As a Christian heterosexual cisgender woman person. I don't like that. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.480 Well, then I can relate. I mean, I'm wearing my 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.599 sis gender heterosexual Christian woman outfit, I have athleisure on. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.840 You are a cisgender heterosexual Christian woman. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:24.280 Thank you? 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.520 So that is the goal for all of us. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.760 Yeah, I have opinions on that. Tell me, well, I 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.120 think I very much relate to you. I watched your 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.520 Matt Cullen. Oh yeah, and I think just a lot 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.720 of the words of what you said, just in terms 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.839 of your childhood and then the finding of your transness. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.079 I think I relate a lot with what you were saying, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.720 specifically when it was going from one box to another, right, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:56.000 you know, I didn't want to transition to specifically go 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.480 to another cage. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.920 See. I I'm a big fan of cisgender women, I 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.880 really am. I just don't want to be one and 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.640 I'm never going to be one, so I'm not going 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.720 to try to be one. I used to want to 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.320 be one, but. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:16.760 I think it took me having a lot of acceptance 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.760 of myself and this is my journey too. I can't 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.440 speak on the other girls out there, because sure every 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:28.480 experience is so unique. But I I'm rather happy owning 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:29.760 the fact that I'm a trans woman. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:35.760 Hell yeah, it's what's It's like the truth will set 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.040 you free and there's a lot of power in it. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.000 But wait, we do have to talk about ghosts. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.520 Oh yeah, shit, I'm so sorry. I have ADHD. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.000 No, No, it's fine, it's totally fine, because I do 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.200 want to talk about all this with you. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.320 Let's talk about ghosts. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.920 But first, let's talk about ghosts. So have you ever 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:54.840 encountered one? 0:14:55.320 --> 0:15:00.600 You know? No, I have not. I have probably wishfully 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.880 thought I did, but I don't think I ever want to, Okay, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.360 see anything because you're scared. Yeah, I was horrified as 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.920 a kid. I slept in my mother's bed for a 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.160 long time, like I think until I was like in 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.280 fourth grade, just because I was so terrified of seeing 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.360 a shadow at the end of my bed ew like 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.960 specifically a shadow and like a man at that. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.720 But you were just afraid that that would happen, or 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:27.760 it actually did. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:28.720 It didn't happen. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:29.680 But I. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:35.000 Was very you know, because I'm gen Z nineteen ninety 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.320 nine born and ras so like I had television, I 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.800 had access to all that and all these channels, and 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:44.800 I remember watching a lot of supernatural shows and I 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.400 don't even know if these accounts of these people were 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:53.040 necessarily true, but they would have these dramatizations as how 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:53.560 you say. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.480 I love them, yeastraatization. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:56.560 Dramatization. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.080 I'm like that people with like bad wigs on like rec. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.560 No, but diva, let me tell you the shadow figure 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.720 that they did. Oh it was good that CGI was 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.280 hitting today. They deserved a raise because it horrified me. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.600 Horrified me. I remember being ten and I was like, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.680 God forbid if I ever saw that, like you know, 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.520 peak every so, you know, eerily into my bedroom. Oh 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:22.960 I'm gone, I'm over it. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.360 But you were telling me that you loved like horror 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:26.520 movies right as a kid. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.520 See that's the thing, that's the weird thing. I'm obsessed 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.560 with it. I can't stop watching. It's like, you know, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.480 you watch nine to eleven videos, it's horrified, but it's 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.280 like they get a lot of hues they do on YouTube. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.680 Yeah, but what's your favorite scary movie? 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.560 Oh gosh, okay, well I have a lot, but the 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.360 one that will always forever be in my head and 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.760 at the number one is The Exorcist. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.440 Me too, bitch. Really I saw I saw The Exorcist 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.440 when I was like six. Oh that's younger than I 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:09.080 saw the TV version. VHS recorded it. I'll tell you 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:10.440 about what VHSS are later. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:11.280 Okay, thank you. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.439 So I recorded the TV edited version. 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.000 What was different about the team a lot? 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.760 So I wasn't gonna tell I was in high school 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.399 that I saw the unedited version where it's like because like, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.240 you don't see her getting busy with a crucifix. You 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:30.359 don't see they. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:31.400 Didn't put that on the television. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.800 They did not put that in nineties television. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:34.600 Best part. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.560 But so that movie has been a big part of 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.040 my life. Always are you Catholic? 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:49.560 Technically I'm baptized Catholic? Isn't that fears me too? 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:50.600 You are? 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.040 Is your family Catholic as well? Minus Yeah, we have 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.400 a lot of similarities we do. It's kind of good. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.040 Do you know about the Exorcist being cursed? I did 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.800 some research, so let's get into it. Okay, this is 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:13.080 the curse of the Exorcist. Okay, So most of the 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.159 research I did came from this TV show on Shutter. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.800 Do you know Shutter the app It's like a streaming platform, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.360 but it's just horror movies. You would love it really. Okay, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.760 So it's called Shutter and they have an original show 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.480 that they did two seasons of called Cursed Films. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.040 Wait, I think I don't know. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.560 And I think that stuff can be real controversial because 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:41.320 why you know, it's like people do die. They do 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:46.520 be doing that. Yeah, people die, and then sometimes when 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.280 like it happens a lot, people are like there's a curse, 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.280 and then there's like real people that are like okay, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.680 that's like my sister that died, Like yeah, you know 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:58.560 what I mean. So like I do feel like it's 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.840 a little bit like I roally sometimes to say like 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.200 so like this this is cursed, Like there's like real 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.160 it's real stuff. But the Exorcist one is really interesting 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.840 because they really like went with it, like for in 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.440 terms of publicity and they were just like, yes, it's. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.960 Cursed even in the seventies. 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.000 Yes. Part of the reason that we know about what 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:27.120 the Exorcist is is because the Curts like they would 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:31.879 use that and just just the entire conversation around it, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:36.080 like they genuinely tried to make this be a movie 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.119 where it's like if you go, you know, we're not 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:45.600 liable if you get possessed. Yeah, people people faints. Oh 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.120 my god, if you're pregnant, don't go to this right 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.240 right right. I'm like, betch, I don't know if I'm pregnant. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:51.919 We could be. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.159 There's only one way to find out is if you 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.679 go to the extorsies, right right. So the real story 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.760 is we've covered this on the podcast before. There's a 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.800 real story called they like don't technically know what the 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:10.639 It was a little boy and okay, William Peter Blatti 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.160 who is the writer author, Yeah, he wrote the book 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:20.480 The Exorcist, okay, and it was inspired by this real 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.159 story of this little boy and it's sort of like 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.919 his identity because he was a minor and whatever, like 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.200 nobody knows exactly who he was, but apparently the story 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.120 really happened, and his name was They call him Roland Doe. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.439 Oh, like a John Doe but like you know, nineteen, 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:40.000 but he's. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:44.720 Roland and Roland well he is after that book, Mama, Yeah, 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.680 I hope he got a little something from it because 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:52.200 the apparently was very possessed by demons at one point. 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.960 I also got some research from this article from twenty 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.360 twenty three on sci fi dot com, the Size Side Network, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.800 an article by Sidney Contreras, and there's a quote in 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:08.800 here from William Freedkin, the Freaking director, the director who 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:14.280 also did the gay classic Cruising and Boys in the Band. No, 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.080 he was not oh interesting, sort of an ally, some 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:22.760 would say, but okay, so he said in nineteen seventy 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:27.520 four in an interview with a horror magazine called Castle 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.720 of Frankenstein. This is what William freaking said. He said, 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.680 I'm not a convert to the occult, but after all 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.840 I've seen on this film, I definitely believe in demonic possession. 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.240 There are things that cannot be treated by medical or 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:49.960 psychiatric means. It seems strange, foreign and impossible, but it exists. 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:54.000 We were plagued by strange and sinister things from the beginning. 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.600 It is simply the hardest thing I have ever done 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:03.240 in my life making this. Oh so you know something's up. 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.159 So basically, one of the first things that happened was 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.240 the sets caught on fire. Like her house. The sets 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.720 caught on fire. It took six weeks to rebuild. Oh Lord, 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:14.240 and Warner. 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:15.520 Brothers was pissed about them. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.640 There far it was it Warner brothers. 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:17.880 I believe. 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.080 I don't remember actually whoever it was. Somebody was mad 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:28.240 and the one room was not touched by the fire, 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:35.000 Reagan's bedroom. Oh diva deva Right. So they brought in 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.000