WEBVTT - We boycotting or nah?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey va fam, Welcome to Brown Ambition. Happy Wednesday, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Lunar New Year. If you're celebrating, we're going red. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I got the memo, but some other.

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<v Speaker 2>Round table is that isn't the Red family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what like a dude thinks it's red. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like like Chinese red. That's not Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>New Year red. No, it's not not at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine enough. There's a huge like Chinatown and SF

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<v Speaker 1>is like a big thing, right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge yeah. Population. I don't have any specific plans,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will always partake in, especially the food portion

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<v Speaker 2>of the celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, so souper dump. Yeah so wait you moved

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<v Speaker 1>to SF so much has changed? Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>went with an afro today. What else have you missed

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<v Speaker 1>in the past like two weeks. We call it the

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<v Speaker 1>Brown table. Now, welcome to the Brown Table. Yes, so yes,

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<v Speaker 1>officially going to like you know, let you know that

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<v Speaker 1>and shout out to Mark from Better Wallet for giving

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<v Speaker 1>me that name. I'm going to mention you every time

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<v Speaker 1>so that you don't ask me for any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like royalty or benefit residual from that. Okay, but thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the idea. You were right. What else did

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<v Speaker 1>you miss? You on Nelly? Our girl is in Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was like, where's Nellie when I got here.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a Rudelyn babe. She's doing something fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's right, because I saw a video and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, is this right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like where she was on the panel?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know I was teasing. I'm like, look

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<v Speaker 1>at that girl from the from Brooklyn almost said the

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<v Speaker 1>Bronx from Brooklyn bk out there in Switzerland. So we

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<v Speaker 1>wish her the best doing her big girl, big speaking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so you had a big move.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, It's like one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 2>you whatever, you move right, you know it's horrible, but

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<v Speaker 2>then you just forget about it, and then the next

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<v Speaker 2>time you move you're like, oh, yeah, this is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened. Like, yes, yeah, you think about oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be so exciting a new place. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>think about the fact that you're constantly boxing of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>lifting everything. It was it was a journey, But I've

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<v Speaker 2>been here for a weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I rid of so much stuff. You made a big deal, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>a minimal snow blah blah blah. You could fit my

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<v Speaker 1>things in a carry on suitcase.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. I got rid of so much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like, I still got too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So it ended up being I have like one you

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<v Speaker 2>can't see it's out a frame here of a giant

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<v Speaker 2>suitcase that had all my clothes in it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to fit pretty much everything in that one

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<v Speaker 2>big suitcase, and then everything else fit in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of a round.

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<v Speaker 1>I have suitcases, multiple of clothing that no longer fits me,

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<v Speaker 1>that that might fit me one day, you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like stack up in my crawl space. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have to buy a new luggage when I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh damn, I'm using that big suitcase for Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you just put it in a box? Why are

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<v Speaker 2>you put it in a suitcases?

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<v Speaker 1>It just feels like vermin could get in there. You

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm in I'm in the suburbs. Now, we might

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<v Speaker 1>have little mice and stuff. I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>like chew through a box. Get clothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Get those little bags. So the ones we you stuck

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<v Speaker 2>the air out of the bag, it seals it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a vacuum does that does not compatible

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<v Speaker 1>with the dice in the little dice and skinny back little.

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<v Speaker 2>Pump thing like a little bike pump thing you put

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<v Speaker 2>on it sex all the air out come on. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making excuses a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bike so I could use my bike pump.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you can't. It's a special one. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just plug a bike pock doing it is gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I don't do any any like appliance or tool

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<v Speaker 1>that has different components and nozzles. I just can't be bothered.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Oh, the wooden floor attachment is not on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the carpet attachment. Well, I guess I'm not vacuumting

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<v Speaker 1>the living room today. I'm just I'll wait until my

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<v Speaker 1>husband feels like finding out finding the carpet attachment or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>What were we discussing?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, God moved up here about a week and a

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<v Speaker 2>half ago. It's been great, but the move was still horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're starting your new I mean, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>starting your new single life in the city because you

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<v Speaker 1>went and got booed up, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, locked it down before I got here.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that's great. It's almost like you manifested

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship too, because you had planned to move and

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<v Speaker 1>then you met me, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly three mutual.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends, I mean, and how long has it been since

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<v Speaker 1>you were last really? I know you've shared on the

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<v Speaker 1>show candidly. I know that you're like your skin's crawling

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<v Speaker 1>because you're like, oh, not personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Details, more personal.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were divorced, divorced by divorce, Okay, in Adele's voice,

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<v Speaker 1>divorce it's fine, like most people will so anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>you came back. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I told myself, right, because I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, as I was getting back at there, because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really want to at first. I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was just working on myself, going to therapy, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what am I doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, as you should, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to bring all your problems into a

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<v Speaker 2>new situation, so I'm trying to take my time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I want to whoever I meet,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be friends with them first, because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure that we like each other, we

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<v Speaker 2>get along. You don't when it's jumping something to something, Beau,

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<v Speaker 2>you're attracted to somebody, right, Because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>attractive people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys going to get along, you do

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<v Speaker 1>if you're under thirty, which we're not. So yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know for that different now, relationships so only have so

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<v Speaker 1>much time to live.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you got the count, you're a later dater. You

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<v Speaker 2>just dry all the way up, you know. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, you like, you never know, right you

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<v Speaker 2>meet someone and you start dating, and you know, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all putting our best foot forward, right, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>all being our best version of ourselves, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>always wait. I'm sure she's waiting for the shoot to

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<v Speaker 2>drop for me, and I'm waiting for her. And I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta say, she's still been the same amazing person since

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<v Speaker 2>when I met her, very even, very consistent personality and demeanor,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it's been it's been really good getting to

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<v Speaker 2>know her more. And that's kind of like just like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting through like the very early stages. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will say being friends first definitely helped because you

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<v Speaker 2>can know the person a little bit. You already know

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<v Speaker 2>the good and the bad of who the person is,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it kind of helps as you transition to

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<v Speaker 2>that relationship part. And I was very fortunate that I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up meeting her through a friend, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was what I was hoping for. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know, like you know who your friend's friends are.

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<v Speaker 2>They may not have a good pool of people and

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<v Speaker 2>they're bullet fed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't like a setup. It wasn't of those

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<v Speaker 1>awkward like, Okay, you got to meet this girl that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like is less successful than what you've done,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the organic like your I mean, did you

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<v Speaker 1>tell your friends, hey, just in case you know anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's single, like make sure that they're invited, or did

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<v Speaker 1>you just like let it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't shout out to my friend. My friend

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<v Speaker 2>Ning got throw her name out there. She was wanting.

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<v Speaker 1>To be the friend who like met who like connected

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<v Speaker 1>the two soulmates, you know what I mean, Like, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>there was that friend who introduced Harry to Meghan, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like the way that my ego would just

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<v Speaker 1>be fed for the rest of my life, like she

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<v Speaker 1>gave us Harry and Meghan. So shout out to Ning.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye do better next time, Maddie. You're you're way too slow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really bad at it. Ning.

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<v Speaker 2>She told me she met Bee just through a co

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<v Speaker 2>working space, the same co working space I go to.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, Oh, she's just a really cool person.

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<v Speaker 2>I really I really like it like her. We're becoming friends,

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<v Speaker 2>like great, and that was it. Then when I went

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<v Speaker 2>to where I came back for like my second long

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<v Speaker 2>trip up here, we went to the co working space

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<v Speaker 2>and then B just happened. She literally just walked in.

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<v Speaker 2>Ning wasn't even sitting next to me. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in a chair and be sat across from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know who I was. I didn't know who she was,

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<v Speaker 2>so we didn't like we weren't talking. And then Ning

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<v Speaker 2>walks up. She's like, oh, hey, hey, B, this is Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris is B And I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the person you've been talking about all this time. I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea, and so then yeah, we just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of were just Ning was very respectful. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing we both give her credit for. She was

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<v Speaker 2>not like forcing us to be there, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>think she deep down was like I think these two

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<v Speaker 2>people were where they hit it off, but she never

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<v Speaker 2>like forced us to go do something together and then

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<v Speaker 2>like make us like sit by each other. Wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>always orchestrating things. But but it feels like a good

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<v Speaker 2>investment at this point. I mean now, definitely a good investment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paying I paid for the annually annually, so somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>around like I think one fifty ish a month. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the equivalent price of.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just be careful you don't end up on one

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<v Speaker 1>of them websites. You know, there's like Facebook groups. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hanging out with my husband's coworkers and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all like in their early twenties or mid twenties, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said that there's a Facebook group where they it's

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<v Speaker 1>and it's for every city, and girls get on there

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<v Speaker 1>and share pictures of boys that they're about to go

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<v Speaker 1>out with and basically ask the crowd, hey, any ride

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<v Speaker 1>flags I should know about?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that it's gonna be way worse and whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're about to say some webcam orsbody, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, but that's horrible. I'm like, And they were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about how yeah, I put a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>this one guy, and then someone said that he had

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on her, and I was like, well, never mind,

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<v Speaker 1>onto the next and I was like, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>when is anyone, someone's gonna get sued if they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>already been by these Yeah, because that's like you could

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, you're you're just like tearing down someone's

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<v Speaker 1>character and out of and people could be doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for revenge.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like that's the thing, because I get it

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<v Speaker 2>for a woman, right cause it's like, look, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be careful out there. You gotta make sure you're right. Yeah, person, So.

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<v Speaker 1>We do it anyway informally, but to have it like yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but there's too much room for stuff for a

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<v Speaker 2>jealous visual person to be like, oh no this, let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you all this fake, horrible stuff about this person.

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<v Speaker 2>We mess up a potentially good relationship. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, but I'm like, oh, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of room for that to go real wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just saying you might want to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little quick glance at that that group for s f

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<v Speaker 1>any of your awkward early dates.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know, I got no skeletons in my closet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm open bug though, I'm like, I'm not worried about

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<v Speaker 2>anything out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh famous last words. I will be saving this clip

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<v Speaker 1>for when the next Chris Browning scandal occurs. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when he said, I never knew he was so normal.

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<v Speaker 1>He was my friend for years. I never saw it coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Please put this out there. They'll put his energy out

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<v Speaker 2>into the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, all right, ba Fan. Well, the biggest things

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<v Speaker 1>in the news right now, other than like everything happening

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<v Speaker 1>with lowered Voute Mowort, has just been like the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we're so easy to screw with. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, honestly, the stock market in America, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>so fickle just anything anything can happen. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the now the founder of that company

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<v Speaker 1>whoever founded a Deep Deep Seek in China, like they

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<v Speaker 1>could just have a really bad cough or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>then like the American markets would just be jacking the

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<v Speaker 1>price up of all these tech companies to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well maybe they were like got an illness, so

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<v Speaker 1>we need to like, you know, maybe these companies are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing better now when that company obviously

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<v Speaker 1>goes under because the CEO is gonna die because he

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<v Speaker 1>has tuberculosis or whatever it is. You know, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>just so emotional. Homeboy, stock market. Homeboy is in his

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<v Speaker 1>feelings he's a very emo and yeah, tech stocks were plummeting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like Navidia, this company that makes the chips

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<v Speaker 1>that these AI. Now I understand why Nividio is such

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in video is a name. I call it Navidia,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a beautiful day. My brother's having another kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, you could name your kid Navidia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well listen, at least I didn't do the real Southern thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Navidia's call it in videos. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>been to m going down to in videos like crokers, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>their stock has been going boom boom, up up up

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<v Speaker 1>up up. I know Amandy money Maker had gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>job there and her comp offer. I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a work of art. I got no notes ten

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten. Don't negotiate, just run run and say yes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake it which is very unusual for me to say,

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<v Speaker 1>don't negotiate. But I was like, girl, you got it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is an amazing offer. Let's talk about like

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<v Speaker 1>something that really impacts American finances, which or at least

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like. I don't know if it was like

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<v Speaker 1>if this is too apt of a cliche to use,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a chicken or the egg. When the egg

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<v Speaker 1>became the the indicator. There's just research came out showing

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<v Speaker 1>that the price of a dozen eggs, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like the bare minimum eggs, like the squeaky styrofoam, the

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<v Speaker 1>pink and blue containers that the bougie ones of us

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, don't get those have doubled in price

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<v Speaker 1>from like two bucks to four dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Since how much of your budget is your eggs compared

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<v Speaker 2>to things like your rent or your mortgage, or your

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<v Speaker 2>car insurance and car paper, like, there are things that

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<v Speaker 2>make up a much bigger chunk of your budget that

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<v Speaker 2>should be more more concerned, Like we should be putting

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<v Speaker 2>all this energy into like why is the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>living increasing so crazy and such a crazy rate, versus

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that if egg prices went down, if eggs went down,

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<v Speaker 2>if eggs went from four dollars to fifty cents a carton,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to danger your life. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>have got way more affordable, that would make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>But it becomes this thing, this talking point that they

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<v Speaker 2>can just focus on, and it's not like eggs have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten are going to get cheaproblem a sudden it's because

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<v Speaker 2>we have a new president, because they have not. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's one of those things that's like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really where we should be putting our anger and energy

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<v Speaker 2>into right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What I would rather focus on is like the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of technology. If the Trump administration and goes through with

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<v Speaker 1>these tariffs that they're threatening to put on countries like

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico and China, then like, I don't want us to

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<v Speaker 1>lose sight of what could happen to that, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like people who voted for Trump are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be like tough on trade, but not

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the crucial, crucial piece of information about a tariff

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<v Speaker 1>is that it does increase the cost for them to

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<v Speaker 1>ship their products to us in America, but they passed

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<v Speaker 1>that cost on to us. So there's one report that

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<v Speaker 1>says if they go through with an up to sixty

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<v Speaker 1>percent tariff on Chinese goods, that could lead to an

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<v Speaker 1>insane increase in the cost of things like computers and smartphones.

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<v Speaker 1>So one example is that wait, we're in this tago

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<v Speaker 1>n VideA hold on everything all be oh, here we go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So if they actually go through with a sixty percent

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<v Speaker 1>tariff on China. A new report said that laptop and

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<v Speaker 1>tablet price might increase forty five percent, video consoles by

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<v Speaker 1>as much as forty percent, smartphones by as much as

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six percent. So let's just take it a smartphone

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<v Speaker 1>for example, I just bought my dad, well with his

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<v Speaker 1>credit card. I helped him order the new iPhone Promax

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't really like you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know absolutely not. You'll hear later in the

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<v Speaker 1>show about why I did not no money like that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But anyway, he can't. His phone is so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that he couldn't even get online to purchase a

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<v Speaker 1>new one. I did it for him, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand bucks or whatever. Of course he got one

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<v Speaker 1>of those insane thirty six month payment plans. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>if a tariff like this goes through, that could be

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<v Speaker 1>a two that could that phone, the same phone I

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<v Speaker 1>got him could cost twelve hundred dollars because yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not making these products in America, so tariffs mean more

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<v Speaker 1>money from us. So I don't understand how that is

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<v Speaker 1>part of like the make America affordable again. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we're here in ba FAM because we ain't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be that dumb. Okay, well, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about all these d de I Rollback says. The big

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<v Speaker 1>one that is like breaking the girl's hearts is Target?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Target, Why why a Tab at the Brown? Probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest, I feel like the biggest black owned brand

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<v Speaker 1>in Target. I can't think of a bigger one, can you? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she has I mean she sells food there

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<v Speaker 1>and cookwaar, and she had a clothing line and she's

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<v Speaker 1>just a huge personal brand unto herself. We love Tab

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<v Speaker 1>and so for Tab to be swept up in this

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<v Speaker 1>and she did this. She put a video on social

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<v Speaker 1>weear she's eating like the biggest crispis fowl of grapes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was very asmr Like I've never heard a

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<v Speaker 1>grape that crisp. Like where did she get this from?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's not even saying anything. She just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, black girl, I'm not going to say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to communicate with my m like do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>No word needed to add an important POV to this,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I believe the actual founders of these black

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<v Speaker 1>owned businesses like what is what does it mean to

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<v Speaker 1>them if we boycott these retailers and get that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very special guest who's going to join

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<v Speaker 1>us now, and her name is Kim Lewis. She is

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of curl Mix, which is I know, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite natural curl haircare brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Right love? Which had more? I could use more of it?

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<v Speaker 1>How many ball jokes will she do in an episode?

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<v Speaker 1>At least two? So she's gonna come on and she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to weigh in because curl Mix has been around

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<v Speaker 1>four I feel like, I don't know a decade now,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has built of like an e commerce heavy business,

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<v Speaker 1>but has recently been in the past year selling her

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<v Speaker 1>products at Alta Alta Beauty. So Kim's going to join

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and I think y'all really love what she

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<v Speaker 1>has to say. So I wanted to have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. Kim Lewis the CEO and founder of

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<v Speaker 1>curl Mix, one of your one of the best brands

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<v Speaker 1>for curly hair, and naturally, I'm wearing my curly hair today.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best friends out there is like, Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>You've been in business for quite some time now, in

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<v Speaker 1>the past year, your products have been put on shelves

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<v Speaker 1>at ALTA. So yeah, I wanted to get your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on all of this, Like is it fair for us

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<v Speaker 1>to say boycott these retailers? Is that the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>we can do to show that we do care how

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<v Speaker 1>they invest in our communities?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I saw the founder of Buy from a

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<v Speaker 4>black woman and talk about how it's like if you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the Montgomery book bus boycott, and if there

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<v Speaker 4>was a group of black people were like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>we can still ride bus.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen and seventy eight. We just want to do the

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<v Speaker 3>other buses, it wouldn't have been effective.

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<v Speaker 4>It was all around canceling of a retailer that really

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<v Speaker 4>got changed, and that really made because people people only

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<v Speaker 4>respond to their pocketbooks, right, They're not going to respond

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<v Speaker 4>to like goodwill and incentive and kumbaya. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not making it so much money, let me change

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<v Speaker 4>my policy. So boycott of Target could turn into, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to double.

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<v Speaker 3>Down on the DEI we were doing before and do

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<v Speaker 3>even more.

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<v Speaker 4>We might even have a black section, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, Like you might get that from the boycott now.

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<v Speaker 4>I also understand my friends who have inventory in those

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<v Speaker 4>places and they're like him, I need this hundred KPO

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<v Speaker 4>to come through this month, otherwise I'm going to be bankrupt.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't have investors, I don't have any the

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<v Speaker 3>financial backing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my small business, I won't have the money to

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<v Speaker 4>pay for my family to eat if you guys don't

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<v Speaker 4>go in and shop the stores and target.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what I would also, what I would say.

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<v Speaker 4>I have learned is that in the past couple of

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<v Speaker 4>years since funding his dried up and bankruptcies are an

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<v Speaker 4>all time high, is that it has been It is

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<v Speaker 4>my lesson's armstong to learn not to have all my

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<v Speaker 4>eggs in one basket or one channel when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to growing my business or sub staving my business, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an e commerce business, and when my business was

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<v Speaker 4>only focused on ECMM and nothing else, no Amazon, no retail, nothing,

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<v Speaker 4>when the Facebook algorithm change in twenty twenty two, I

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<v Speaker 4>was screwed. Like my business suffers so much that one

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<v Speaker 4>month I went from like you know, maybe breaking even

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<v Speaker 4>to our profits are like losing one hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does Facebook impact that so much? As it ads.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so like they if they have an algorithm update,

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<v Speaker 4>it changes who sees your ads, if it's the ideal

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<v Speaker 4>customer for somebody else, it changed the efficacy of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so you I realized, Oh, that's a fickle place

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<v Speaker 4>for me to be where everything is relying on this

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<v Speaker 4>one channel.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is not to say like oh like sour

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<v Speaker 3>Graves or oh like this is your lesson learned. It's not.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what I'm saying. I am supportive of targeted buying.

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<v Speaker 4>Targeted buying meaning you go into Target and you only

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<v Speaker 4>buy the black owned brands. I get that, and especially

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting that from a self as perspective, as a

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<v Speaker 4>founder who could have their products in retail and I

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<v Speaker 4>would want that support. But I also get from a

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<v Speaker 4>larger perspective of like, no, we all have to be unified.

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<v Speaker 4>So because Target's not going to make a change unless

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<v Speaker 4>we are unified, and then selfish to them like well

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<v Speaker 4>you can shock up almost Ulsa is actually doubling down

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<v Speaker 4>to and I like, they gave us a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>They paid us in advance.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, when we launched an Alta, OURPO was like several

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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousands with and instead of paying us at ninety

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<v Speaker 4>sixty net thirty, they give us Nest fifteen terms and

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<v Speaker 4>they paid us in advance for their first order.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, that fifteen is like especially for like

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<v Speaker 1>a product like that. I mean, that is a game changer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that ninety is a killer.

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<v Speaker 3>And they would probably say, well, you were on shark tank.

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<v Speaker 3>You have two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred thousand customers already online that she has the information for,

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<v Speaker 4>and you also post on social regularly, and basically they

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<v Speaker 4>would say like, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll keep you know, we and I gave them exclusivity.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also not in any other retailers, so they can't

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<v Speaker 4>afford to back me that way because I'm not telling

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<v Speaker 4>people to go to Target. And also in CBS and

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<v Speaker 4>Walkreens and Walmart. If I had been all these other places,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no.

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<v Speaker 3>Way they would have doubled down that way, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, gotcha. So it's besides that coin.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm grateful to them because they could also be

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<v Speaker 4>rolling out with the retailers or retailers to stand together

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<v Speaker 4>and say, hey, we're just all not gonna do this,

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<v Speaker 4>so what you got to stop somewhere, you know. And

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<v Speaker 4>so but I'm grateful for them for standing on that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was just so like, and they gave us

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<v Speaker 4>section to like new and emerging brands, which is honestly

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the DEI brands, you know, women owned,

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<v Speaker 4>women of color, Black owned, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is nice, like y'all are.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have a cowork off of us where.

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<v Speaker 4>They bring those women on brands, women of color brands

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<v Speaker 4>together and then they helped us you into the store.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not the only one of that they've paid

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<v Speaker 4>in advance for order before you know what I'm saying, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think the heartburn with Target is that

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<v Speaker 3>we felt like.

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<v Speaker 4>They were like the sister girl, the homie, the untee,

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<v Speaker 4>the boyfriend, whoever, was like really putting black people up

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<v Speaker 4>front because they have us in the images and we

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<v Speaker 4>go in their stores. They have a section that they

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<v Speaker 4>like black beauty, it feels like with the hair section

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<v Speaker 4>and the makeup section, and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of people were getting a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of play.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think Target has their darlings and then everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else is like kind of there, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 4>think now we're feeling, you know, the roll back and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know what, maybe we overinvested. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 4>like we all want to do this anymore. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that is where it's like, oh, you tricked us,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like you got us in

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<v Speaker 4>and now you're now that you're if it's only been

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<v Speaker 4>abandoned almost and like the worst time in the Trump

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<v Speaker 4>administration that we've been there, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just know they're right now setting up for Black History Month,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, putting that little end cap on first, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you call it? When you first walk in and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, here's all the cute Black History Month stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>But how do you have a Black History Month like

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<v Speaker 4>promo and like in cap and like display and then

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<v Speaker 4>you just denounced a roll back your DNA program.

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<v Speaker 3>That just feels so disingenuous, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more interested to see what Black History Month next

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<v Speaker 1>year looks like because I feel like, aren't they constantly

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<v Speaker 1>kind of working in advance? And I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from the retailer perspective, how far in advance do they

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<v Speaker 1>purchased the products that are on shelves? So like when

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<v Speaker 1>will we actually see if they're divesting from these brands?

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<v Speaker 1>Like when will the shelves start looking slimmer.

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<v Speaker 4>And divesting really could just mean we're not adding new ones,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that, we're just kind of like helping people

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<v Speaker 4>who are here, which is just hardening for people who

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<v Speaker 4>are starting. You know, this is like this is honestly

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<v Speaker 4>is not it's time to start a brand. And the

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<v Speaker 4>people who are surviving, I'm the ones who were here

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<v Speaker 4>before twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't have.

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<v Speaker 4>A customer base of four twenty twenty betweeny one, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to start now. And I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 4>from a funding perspective, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 4>there's no more c funding for product based businesses, Like

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of funding has literally dropped like ninety nine percent,

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<v Speaker 4>and the only people are getting funded from mine now

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<v Speaker 4>is now that are CpG companies. Are people who are

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<v Speaker 4>doing ten million. They're profitable and like they're getting some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of check. But if they're new, if you need

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<v Speaker 4>money to start your business, like, don't start it. That's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the conversation in the VC the investment world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like for product based you said CP, you're using CpG,

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<v Speaker 1>so consumer products and goods.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, consumer package goods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So if you got stuff, consumer package goods okay

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<v Speaker 1>and fool.

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<v Speaker 4>So it is even worse right now, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. And I imagine it was bad before, but

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<v Speaker 4>now that there's like this whole ice thing where they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be shipping everybody back to wherever they're from,

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 4>which is fed up in so many ways. Who's who

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<v Speaker 4>is plucking your strawberries, who is getting your grapes, who

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<v Speaker 4>is providing the food that's in the restaurants, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it's it is a what's all says?

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<v Speaker 3>To burn the boat's kind of year where you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>you burn.

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<v Speaker 4>The boat with Basically, if the armies they would land

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<v Speaker 4>in a new land, they would burn the boats and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you have no option but to win, otherwise you die.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's the kind of year we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's really uplifting. I don't know if you know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is called brown ambition. We don't have guests come

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<v Speaker 1>on and like kill our kill the ambition of everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're keeping it real. I mean, you're in it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what the steaks are.

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<v Speaker 4>The only reason I'm still here is because I had

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<v Speaker 4>philanthropic dollars. Somebody who was very wealthy who's seen me

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<v Speaker 4>working at this for the last five to seven years,

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<v Speaker 4>wrote me a check.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they did not private investor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I have an investor or, an angel investor.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they had not, Oh my god, like I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be here talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>May you know, that's incredible. Yeah, and thanks for that

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<v Speaker 1>transparency too, because I mean it's I feel like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like in your community are people and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean by your community, I mean other people who

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<v Speaker 1>are selling those CpG products, Like, are they being honest

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<v Speaker 1>and upfront about what's really the struggle behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>Behind the scenes, they tell me the truth. But here's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing. Getting on social is already hard, right, like

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<v Speaker 4>showing up with your face, your voice, and your opinions

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 4>because most people are afraid to share their opinions publicly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's already hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's even harder to do when you're struggling. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>no founder is going to get out of here and

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<v Speaker 4>tell you that they are bankrupt or they're out of

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<v Speaker 4>money or they had to do like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they're just not going to do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, they're just not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I hear a lot of the background conversation

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<v Speaker 4>and the founders I know who' hit a million dollar

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<v Speaker 4>marks are either going bankrupt that are either don't have

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<v Speaker 4>much money.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what I like.

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<v Speaker 4>To recommend to people is like, now's the time we're

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<v Speaker 4>living your relationships. Now's the time to ask a rich friend.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they may say no, but you need you

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<v Speaker 4>need to ask, and you got to open up your

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<v Speaker 4>mouth and ask. Now is the time to be honest

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<v Speaker 4>about the situation, To tell your investors, tell your friends,

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<v Speaker 4>to your family the money that you don't have, because

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<v Speaker 4>you need some help, Like, we can't save ourselves in this.

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<v Speaker 3>We need some help.

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<v Speaker 1>We need Mortgaging your house, huh, don't be taking a

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<v Speaker 1>second mortgage on the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not a.

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<v Speaker 4>Second, but maybe it's time to sell your house. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it's time to downsize. Maybe it's time to liquidate some

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<v Speaker 4>of those assets. A lot of my friends are liquating

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<v Speaker 4>their assets and they're figuring out what's really important to them.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm saying there because a lot of us have money.

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<v Speaker 4>Money in twenty twenty two, you know, I twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>we had some like residuals. So twenty four they were

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<v Speaker 4>all broke and they were like, okay, girl, what are

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<v Speaker 4>we eating for dinner? Okay, this is my budget? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I know that people were doing credit card Russian roulette.

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<v Speaker 4>They throw all their credit cards in the in the

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<v Speaker 4>table for dinner and then whoever's card was pooled, just

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<v Speaker 4>who dinner was on.

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<v Speaker 3>We not doing that no more. Okay, now it's a fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars budget for what I'm eating at dinner. I might

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<v Speaker 4>get a drink, I might not. I'man a free game

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<v Speaker 4>before I get here. And I think it's just the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like the times that we're in a lot

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 4>of the uncertainty. But I don't want to discourage people, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I want people to hear the real thing from somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who's in it and has seen seeing what everybody else

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<v Speaker 4>is saying, but not necessarily projecting online. But while you're

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<v Speaker 4>in that, it doesn't mean you can't keep building, but

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 4>you may have to adjust your expectations. Right, so you

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<v Speaker 4>may not get to that ten million ar mark in

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<v Speaker 4>the five year plan that you wanted, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, Like you might be it might take.

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<v Speaker 3>You ten for that.

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<v Speaker 4>And are you do you really love what you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>that much to do it ten more years to stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>I do. And that was some soul searching.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to realize, Okay, Kim, if it takes you

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<v Speaker 4>another ten years to get to a hundred million, like

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<v Speaker 4>would you?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you do it? Because I thought we'd be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get there in a lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>Five and and if it took you fifteen, would you

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<v Speaker 4>do it?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just like I would, I definitely would.

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<v Speaker 4>I love what I serve and what who I do

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<v Speaker 4>it for, and like, I like my job and it's hard,

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 4>but I like the person is making me into.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you don't like it and it's hard, yeah,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 3>then this is this is the time to look at

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<v Speaker 3>it and be like, Okay, is this the thing? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Brown Ambition, fam y'all know that I have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little transparent about how broke broke broke I

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>was in twenty twenty four. I really feel like you're

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>speaking to me, Kim. And there was those times in

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four where I was like, should I be

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>on LinkedIn? This is not this is crazy, Like I'm

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>literally making no money. I'm putting all this money into

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Brown Ambition, this new chapter, and like what I envisioned

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it to be and it's partly your fault, Kim, because

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I went to Afrotech and that's the last time I

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>saw you hanging out with my girl Morgan and Blavity,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Afrotech, you just can't leave there and think small.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And that really gave me the final push I needed

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to be like, yes, you're suffering, and yes, like things

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>are very tight right now, but I'm not failing. This

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is what it is, you know, Like, this is what

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. You have to slow down and to invest

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and put your own money up and be willing to

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>do that if, like you said, if the goal is

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>something that you are truly passionate and I know that

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that word gets thrown around, but like really committed to

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And it shifted my mindset. It has the past few

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<v Speaker 1>months to the space of like, no, I'm not struggling,

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm building and like this is we need more stories

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of this part. Yeah, and that's why I've been so

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>transparent with ba Fan. My little brother was like, yeah,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it's probably been hard for you to do that because like,

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>aren't you supposed to be a personal finance expert And.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Being the financial expert doesn't mean you have perfection, do you.

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean, Like all of those grand cardoons

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 4>and all of those like really famous rich wife folks.

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 3>They had a moment where they were bankrupt. Like Trump

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 3>has file bakrupcy five or six times. Come on, yeah,

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 3>come on, like we are badging debt.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>They don't even use cash to just debt all day

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly can afford Texas? We get those boid taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we get to be broke.

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<v Speaker 4>We get to be broke or cash for once in

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<v Speaker 4>a while. This doesn't mean this forever, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this.

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<v Speaker 4>The version of me that wants to run a public

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<v Speaker 4>company one day has to go through a phase where

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<v Speaker 4>I have to focus on profit, and I have to

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<v Speaker 4>focus on servicing my dat and I have to focus

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<v Speaker 4>on being crazy efficient on my capital in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that I've never had to experience it before, so that

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<v Speaker 4>when I am managing one hundred million dollar budget, a

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollar budget, you know what I mean, I really

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<v Speaker 4>know how far a dollar constructs, and I know when

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 4>someone's playing me, you know what I'm saying. But imagine

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<v Speaker 4>the Kim that gots to burn her way at ten

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars gets to one hundred million dollars and it's

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<v Speaker 4>burning fifty, you know what I'm saying, Like versus the

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Kim that gets one hundred million dollars and it's profiting fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Very different story, very different business, very different founder. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm looking at this as like a blessing in disguise,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a blessing in disguise.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't be.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 4>The version of your stuff that you're envisioning without going

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<v Speaker 4>through the rough patches.

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard to remind yourself that when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the rough patch.

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 3>What are you made of? Show me what you're made of.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, girl, grit, resilience and like you service,

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I know who I'm doing this for. It's for

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>ba fam, you know, it's at the end of the day.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And you do you what do you call us your customers,

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>CURL mixers.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Crol mixers, Yes, my Crol mixers.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not just me and my ego. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's bigger than that.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 4>So one of the things I'm a little with right now, right,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 4>I had to like scale that one of my ads

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 4>at some point, and so I was like, Dave, I

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<v Speaker 4>cut off my ass.

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I want making money. And I was like, well, no, Kim,

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 3>you have a mailing.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 4>List and there are thousands people in your mailing list,

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 4>and so if you can't get those people to purchase them, Like,

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 4>why do you mane to buy more emails?

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>What do you need more money to get more ads

0:31:57.920 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>to buy more emails?

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<v Speaker 4>You should figure out how to get the one hundreds

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 4>of thousand people on your list to buy. You only

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 4>need four thousand, and you have over four hundred thousand

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 4>on your list, Like what does it take? And I

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 4>was like, Oh, this is old school customer service. This

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 4>is me getting very targeted with my email segments. Talking

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<v Speaker 4>to people in New York about things that they care

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 4>about in New York, talking to people in Atlanta about

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<v Speaker 4>the snow in Atlanta, talking to people like you know

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 4>the customer, where they are and what they're thinking about.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 4>It's not about spray and preying. I any money to

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>put into ads, And that's when I was like, oh

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 4>and I had like with the ads off, I had

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<v Speaker 4>like a ten thousand dollar day with no ads on

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 4>from email marketing and SMS market and I was like, Wow,

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 4>this is really showing me what's possible without having any

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 4>money and I think we have to think like that.

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 4>If you're starting now, you have to think about starting

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 4>with nothing. Think about, okay, I can't get money from

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 4>somebody else to start. If I have my product in hand,

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 4>then you should be posted on social. If you don't

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 4>have your product in hand, you can start to go

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 4>fund me and still post on social and let everybody

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 4>know that you're raising for this product that you're building

0:32:58.760 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 4>and tell them why you need and why.

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>So Special posted a career reboot challenge and it was

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>such a great and I was really tracking the data.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I like woke up from a funk and I'm like,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm really getting into my digital marketing bag. I am

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>going to you know, really heavily promote this this challenge.

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to make like ten thousand dollars or whatever

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>my goal was. And it was astounding to me how

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<v Speaker 1>much more effective the email marketing was. And I was

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>like spending a lot of money on social, not spending money, sorry,

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>spending time, you know, creating social posts, but just simply

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>asking my current audience who has already like invested in

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>me and signed up for my list, to like. The

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>conversion rates were just so much higher over email and yes,

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>there was some conversion from social, and I mean social

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.239
<v Speaker 1>is really important for like getting that cold audience and

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>warming them up and like interact, maybe they'll be customers

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in six more months, but like without that many chat

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>feature where people can comment a word and then they'll

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>get a lead gen like get a lead magnet, like

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>a freebie or whatever, so I can get their email.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that to me is the like how those two

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.479
<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand because I got to get that email.

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I have to have it. I'm trying to get that

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>four hundred thousand lists like like you did. I don't

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>know how you did that, but I raise money, okay,

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>fair enough money?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, that is where all of my money

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 4>is in my assets now.

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 3>So I have to figure out how to squeeze the

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 3>orange to get some orange juice, you know.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I just appreciate you coming on BA and

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 1>just you know, taking time out of your busy, busy

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>schedule for the Pa family. Oh it's we'd love to

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>have you on the show. Thank you.

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Kim.

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<v Speaker 1>So people can find you at curl mix dot com. Yeah,

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you can buy her products at curl mix dot com

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>or at your local Altahaty store. Yes, see anything else

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to BA fam.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 4>If they don't carry it in your ulta, just tell

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 4>the store manager so they can all be like, oh

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 4>they we need curl mixing me curl Mix.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 1>That's wondering you do this amazing brand called curl Mix.

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Kim, thanks for joining BA Okay v a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back. It's time for one of my favorite parts

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>of the show, which is Brown Boost or Brown Break.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Chris Browning, I just clicked for me that your

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>last name has brown in it, and it's just all

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>so serendipitous.

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Full circle. That's the only reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Sinding at the brown table with the Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Break on brown ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of ambition, all right. What you're gonna do?

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna boost a break? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. I'm going back and forth on this,

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>but i'msa say I'm gonna stay on the positive side.

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a brown boost, okay, And you know,

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna go with I told you about this.

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<v Speaker 2>With the move and everything like that and trying to

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 2>figure out how to get the steff done. I tried

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>out of service because moving can be expensive, right, and

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I've been on those people. It was like, I'm just

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna move myself. You know, I can lift. I can

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>lift some boxes of furniture. I got a brother, my

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>dad will come out there. I got friends. Oh yeah,

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 2>but my dad's old. He's he's he's seventy one. Now

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I think I've used up all my friend requests for moving.

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I've done.

0:35:58.200 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I've had my four or five not in our thirties.

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>But we're not doing it for a free slice of pizza.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Nope, right, because I'm definitely wasn't paying my friends. They

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>weren't getting any money for me. Yeah, yeah, a glass

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 2>of water and a handshake. But now I was like,

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what I need to pay someone? So actually

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 2>B was the one who told me about a move,

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>about an app that exists. It's called Lug. It's a

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>lug with two g's at the end, and then you

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 2>do on demand moving services. And I was like, Okay,

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to see how this works. And so I

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>gave them a shot, and I'm gonna say it still

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 2>was expensive. I was hoping I didn't. You know, you

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>never know how much it's going to cost a move

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 2>for you less. Oh yeah. My quote was like, wo'll

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>be about four hundred dollars. I was like, that is

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>amazing to move my.

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, from LA to SF.

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, this was just to move my stuff from

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>my place to what I had left was to my parents.

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>So they got like some of my furniture because I'm

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 2>like the hub for my brother to pick it up,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>and then for a couple of friends to grab some

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>things from them, and then then my parents want to

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 2>keep some of it. So it was like like that

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>type of thing. So it wasn't too maybe like eighteen miles.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if it was that far away.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 2>It was like more of I got like a twenty

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 2>thirty minute drive, so I was like, this is reasonable. Well,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>when they get there to move stuff, it ended up

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>taking way longer. And then I expect that I should

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 2>have known because I had like a giant refrigerator, had

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>to get out of it, had to take the door

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 2>off the hinges of the apartment to get the refrigerator out.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Always got to be a door, got to be unhinged

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>every time.

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I had to like go get an extra U haul

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>truck to help out because when I got was too small.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 2>All these things, but at the end of the day,

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I get the bill and it was like about eight

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars was a total cost. Yeah, and it was

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot. It was more than I thought, but I

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>guess in the grand scheme of things, eight hundred dollars

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.919
<v Speaker 2>to not have to lift all that stuff myself and

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>moving back and forth and unpacking and reback all this

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>stuff I got say, it was a lot, but my

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 2>body is thaking me for not doing that because that

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>would take me a lot longer.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>And papers. If you got it, you know, then that's great,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>But damn, eight hundred dollars and it wasn't even that far.

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 2>You sure it's a booster, you know, now I'm thinking

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>about maybe it's a break. It's a boost and a

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 2>break at the same time. It's a boost to my body,

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a break to my bank account.

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But you got to like, yeah, but eight hundred dollars,

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you're right for your like your physical health and the

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 1>health of your relationships, because your friends would really resent

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you for asking them to move to help you move. Yeah, no,

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>but that's just it's one of those expenses you really

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want. You don't think about it until you absolutely

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>come down to the last minute and you're like, damn, it.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think about how I'm getting this great apartment,

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's going to cost so much just to get there,

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's almost important to like budget for that, you.

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Know, really should and I don't think I did a

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>great job of like pre planning the expenses for this.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I think in total, between the moving costs, I gave

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>them a tip. I rented a car to move some

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>of my things up there to San Francisco. I lded

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 2>my boxes and tape. I probably spent somewhere around fifteen

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred to two thousand dollars in that ballpark for everything.

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's just I didn't really, in my mind expect

0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>that cost. I should have. I should have known better,

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't for it, so it ended up coming

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 2>out of my savings. So now that it's turning more

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 2>into a break because I'm like, huh, I should have

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>planned better. I should have been a little more on

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 2>it and ready for those expresses instead of just being

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>like it'll be all right.

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm happy that we've given you some space to

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:17.919
<v Speaker 1>really think about your choices and like do the right thing.

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like when your therapist just let you talk and

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.959
<v Speaker 2>then you eventually like, oh, Okay, I see it's the worse.

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm paying all this money just to listen

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to myself and you're just gonna be like all right.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I had a boost and then I forgot. I got

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to think about it, and what did I tell you

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be earlier?

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I think with the boots because you were so excited

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>that I was here again, even the way you insult me.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, absolutely, not that. Absolutely you know why you

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>think it.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have to say, you know, I did get

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<v Speaker 2>a message. The ba fam has been amazing, so welcoming.

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<v Speaker 2>I got so many like great messages and comments from people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did get some comments and feedback when people

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<v Speaker 2>were like, Maddie is treating you so bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>What asked up to you? I can't believe that she

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<v Speaker 2>talks to you that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris h I'll tell bad right, amm poor little baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be fine. He's a man, he can take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it. Y'all better leave me alone by leaving him alone. Okay, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I wanted to do. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>know the rugby player, the famous one Ilona?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Mayer somebody, yes, the best person on social

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<v Speaker 2>media during the Olympics. Yes, I know exactly who that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes. So she came out to be

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<v Speaker 1>this huge star after the Olympics and then she was

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<v Speaker 1>on Dancing with the Stars, which I like watched a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of and she did really well. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing an interview because she's back to playing rugby,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the interviewer was like, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>had imposter syndrome throughout your career? And Ilona just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of goes like, oh no, I don't have that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have imposter syndrome. I think I deserve everything I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've earned it. I think I've worked really

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<v Speaker 1>hard and it all makes sense to me. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>next question. And this clip has gone megaviral and it's

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<v Speaker 1>pissed some people off because it really makes people uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a woman be like not apologize for being

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<v Speaker 1>successful or not appear humble about being successful. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm really I'm boosting it because I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a message that I am always open to hearing

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<v Speaker 1>and being reminded of. And I love seeing women like

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<v Speaker 1>power for women just stand on business and be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't actually have to qualify this or

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel more comfortable about it in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to acknowledge that, yeah, I did the damn

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<v Speaker 1>thing and that I've earned you know what I've gotten,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I just loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean because it's nice to see, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>they I think people want to force, especially women, to

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<v Speaker 2>be humble, right, and you're like, well, there's not it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a lack of humility to say I work hard

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<v Speaker 2>and my heart were paid off. So yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I shouldn't be accomplishing what I accomplished. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think especially that's like a very compared to the

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<v Speaker 2>way we see some people who come up as very

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<v Speaker 2>like what are you talking about? Like it's an off

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 2>putting form of like bragging, where this was just more

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<v Speaker 2>like you respect it. It's like, yeah, we all respect

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>this hard work, and you should be able to claim

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<v Speaker 2>it that way without being ashamed of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, I mean as a dude, I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you tell me, but I feel like early

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<v Speaker 1>on you start hearing as a woman, like so much

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<v Speaker 1>about imposter syndrome and how we should expect it and

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<v Speaker 1>how to overcome it, and like, there's plenty of thought

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>pieces on is imposter syndrome even real? But it's so

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<v Speaker 1>part of the culture now, even as we are starting

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<v Speaker 1>to dismantle it, it's so a part of the culture

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<v Speaker 1>that it just like, let's remind ourselves that, like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to choose to buy into that whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>that what we're feeling when we walk into rooms that

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>were not built for us is like an imposter syndrome.

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>We have to overcome it, like it's not our fault,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not our doing that these like rooms were not

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.399
<v Speaker 1>built with us in mind. So of course we're gonna

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>feel a little out of place, but it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 1>away from the fact that we are qualified and we

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<v Speaker 1>are capable of doing the work that we want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to Alona, and shout out to every

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<v Speaker 1>other badass woman. I feel like Serena Williams walked so

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:25.439
<v Speaker 1>that Ilonas of the world could crawl. Wait, I feel

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>like I I'm so tired. Flip that and reverse it.

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Put the thing out, flip it and reverse it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, So shout out to Eilona, Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>all the ones before who have said something similar, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that y'all we all get to a place

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<v Speaker 1>where we can just stand on business and stand on

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>our heart earned success and everything that we got we

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>did it by working hard. So that's where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave you guys, BA Fam, Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in to the Brown Ambition Podcast this week.

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