1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: What is up, far FAYM. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Bawyer for Friday, October the twenty fourth, and toy. This 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: has been quite a week in sports. The World Series 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: begins tonight. Obviously everybody's fired up. Dodgers, Blue Jays. I'll 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: go with the Dodgers in five. Give the Blue Jays one. 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: NBA in full swing, NFL a bit of a clunker 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: last night, got a solid college football weekend. I have 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of college football bets I'll reveal here shortly, 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: but I just kind of glossed over the NBA. Obviously, 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: there was a neutron bomb dropped on the league early 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Thursday morning, and it's funny. It just funnily happened on 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: day two of the season, essentially right after Wemby had 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: a unbelievable performance. That sho have been the biggest story 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: in sports, but it was kind of overshadowed by some 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: litigious stuff. We'll dig into it. We have a guest 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: coming on the show, Jared Smith. He hosts a Fox 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: Sports radio show on weekends and he is based in Vegas. 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: I think you guys will enjoy Jared and I's conversation. 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: We're not dubious. I mean, I'm not gonna give you 21 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: the full story here. By now, if you're a sports 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: fan and you're listening to this, you are aware Chauncey 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Billups was arrested linked to some shady poker games with 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: the mafia and a bunch of illegal activity at the 25 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: poker games where they were basically cheating people out of money. 26 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: Just how involved Billups was is the question. Obviously he 27 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: played in the poker games, that's you know, pretty well chronicled. 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: The question is, was Chauncey Billups recruit people to come 29 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: to the game knowing that the other people were cheating? 30 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: Theoretically you assume Billups would get a cut in that way, 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: shape or form. Or was Billips, you know, a gambler 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: and he was down bad? Who knows? Why was he 33 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: doing this? What was his level of commitment to this 34 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: poker game? So anyways, he was arrested and released. And then, 35 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: of course the other one is scary Terry Rosier, the 36 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: NBA player who was alleged to have faked an injury, 37 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: told people he was going to take himself out. They 38 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: bet his unders, They all cashed, the NBA investigated it, 39 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: Scary Terry met with the FBI multiple times over the 40 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: last few years, nothing came of it, and then all 41 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: of a sudden, boom arrested and it's like, huh okay, well, anyways, 42 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: that's basically the ten thousand foot view of the story. 43 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: I'll just I'll leave you with a say before we 44 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: get to the interview, is that anyone can indict a 45 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: ham sandwich, Right, It's a well known saying that it's 46 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: easy to indict someone, it's much tougher to actually, you know, 47 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: convict them. And I'm not a lawyer, just I'm not 48 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: defending anybody. I'm just saying it's this is. 49 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: Far from over. 50 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Let's just leave it at that. 51 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: Now. 52 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: The third level was the Damon Jones, who was an 53 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: assistant coach and is alleged to have told people, Hey, 54 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: the Lakers arresting player X, load up on the opposite 55 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: side the Bucks, and the Bucks ended up winning handily. 56 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Player X just happened to be Lebron. There was zero 57 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: evidence Lebron was connected to this in any way, shape 58 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: or form, even though Damon Jones was his teammate. Lebron, 59 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: by the way, is worth I don't know, north of 60 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: five hundred million dollar. H The idea that he would 61 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: be involved is not even worthy of discussion. I don't know. 62 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: This is like, it's a tricky situation. And as I 63 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: was reminded many times by let's just say people, we're 64 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: in a sue happy litigious society and podcasters have been 65 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: sued in recent years. Bloggers have been sued. TV personalities 66 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: have been sued because you said this about me, and 67 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: that's not true and it was proven not true in court. Okay, 68 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: that stuff's actually happening. You've got a bunch of losers 69 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: out there who have don't want to work, and they say, oh, 70 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: this guy said this about me, I want to assume, 71 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: and so that's happening now, and nobody wants to. 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Be part of that crap. 73 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: So we're just gonna. 74 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: I'll I you could. 75 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: You should be able to tell by the tone where 76 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm leaning on this, I'm very much I need to 77 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: wait and see on this. I again, I find it, 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: you know. Chauncey Phillips has a lawyer released the statement 79 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: he he's not jeopardizing his Hall of Fame career, everything 80 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: he's worked for for the last thirty years over a 81 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: card game like that's stupid, and it'll come out in court. 82 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: Obviously they're going to defend staunchly, defend themselves. I'm not 83 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: gonna make this political. 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 4: I'm not. 85 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: I know the investigation started several years ago, before the 86 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: current FBI regime was in place. Just just just be 87 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: patient on this, Okay, guys, let's just be patient. Is 88 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: it possible something happened? 89 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: Of course. 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: Is it also possible that, you know, some guys got 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: nailed on something else and they're looking to roll over 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: and just give names to say to try to save face. 93 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: Whether that stuff is true or not, that's entirely possible. 94 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: It's early. It's fun to speculate. But yeah, I'll let 95 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: the interview with Jared speak for itself, all right, Without 96 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: further ado, let's get to today's guest, Jared Smith, Fox 97 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: sports Radio host. 98 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports to talk lineup 99 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports 100 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR 101 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: to listen live. You know, a guy, Jason likes to 102 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 103 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: I know what sports dance wants, but for everything. 104 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: He doesn't, he knows a guy who does. 105 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows a 106 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome in, too, 107 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: straight fire, a guy who you can't wait to talk 108 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: about this gambling drama in the NBA. Jared Smith, Fox 109 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: sports radio host, longtime gambler. He's on ground zero in Vegas. Jared, 110 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: how you doing, man? 111 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm good. It's definitely been a busy day, busy week. 112 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: You know. 113 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: I feel like we a lot of this news. We've 114 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: been kind of waiting to get the end result and 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: it finally came to a head today. But yet it's 116 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: been a busy day. 117 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: Jamais very very interesting timing. 118 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: Huh. 119 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that. Interesting timing. 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: You have. 121 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: This popped the day after the NBA begins, and I mean, 122 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna be celebrating Wemby. Wemby was phenomenal. 123 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: I thought I was like, oh my gosh, this is 124 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: like Otani level. And then you wake up and you're like, oh, 125 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: an NBA head coach has been hosting poker games that 126 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: are with some nefarious individuals, shall we say. And then 127 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: of course there's the Terry Rogier story, which is dragged on. 128 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: I don't know which. 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: I think they were disconnected. The two were separate, Jared, 130 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: but then they as people dig in more, they're now like, oh, 131 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: Billups may be linked to the gambling stuff. Where do 132 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: you want to start. What do you find more interesting 133 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: Billups or Rogier? 134 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean again, and it is obviously an open investigation. 135 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things that I'm still that 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: need to be worked out. And you know, no one's 137 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: been found guilty of anything. But based on how I 138 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: read the indictment, there is a someone you know, call 139 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: him co Conspirator eight, that tipped off the mob that 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: the Blazers weren't going to be playing their starters on 141 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: a particular night. And then they describe co Conspirator eight 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: as a resident of Oregon an NBA player from nineteen 143 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: ninety seven through twenty fourteen. So again you can kind 144 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: of connect the dots on who that co Conspirator eight is. 145 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: But that person is very interesting to me because that 146 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: is right like in all the President's men, deep throat 147 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: the source, like that person is giving out information that 148 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: is not publicly available that the sportsbooks don't know about. 149 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: That can obviously impact the market. So I don't know 150 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 4: who that person is. I'm assuming it is Chauncey Villas 151 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: just based on the description, but there is no actual 152 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: you know, he wasn't named in the sports betting side 153 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: of the case. 154 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: The poker side of the case. 155 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm not involved in the poker world as much, but 156 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of people that I've seen 157 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 4: that have had Reddit posts and podcasts from years ago 158 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: where Billips was involved in this kind of let's call 159 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: it nefarious behavior with nefarious characters. 160 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: So that doesn't surprise me as much. 161 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: The sports betting thing is concerning because you're talking about 162 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: the integrity of the bets that are made, and that 163 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: is where I think the league has the biggest problem. 164 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the billet stuff is interesting. 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: I looked it up. 166 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: He made I believe, one hundred and thirty five million, 167 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: hundred and seven somewhere in there in his NBA career. 168 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: Now he's coaching. This struck me as a little bit 169 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: odd that a guy who made over one hundred million 170 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: and yes, you know, you take out taxes and the 171 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: agent and stuff, fine forty mili okay, over the course 172 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: of his career and he's coaching getting paid and I 173 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: believe he was in the media at ESPN briefly, I think, 174 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: and this guy is now all of a sudden like 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: luring people allegedly into a poker game run by the 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: mob so they could get cleaned out and he would 177 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: what get a commission. I some of this struck me 178 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: as just that sounds odd, But I don't know Chauncy 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: Billets at all, and he has had some checkered stuff 180 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: in his past allegations, of course, but this whole like 181 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: he tipped off people about sitting starters. Did you go 182 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: back and look at the box scores bydy Chest because 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: I did. 184 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: They didn't play in that Like the game that was 185 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: in question was a game where that information was highly 186 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: valuable information. And that's again the important part to definitely 187 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: note here is that it like I saw the Damon 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: Jones part of the indictment as well, where he's basically 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: telling people to bet on the bucks one night because 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: Lebron potentially is going to be sitting. That is not 191 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: as damaging to me, because it's just, you know, we 192 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: see teams play and overcome that all the time. It's 193 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 4: not a direct correlation it's really the player props that 194 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: they're having the biggest issue with j Max. So I 195 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: think there's definitely a regulation that needs to be added 196 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: to betting on player props, whether it's limiting the amount 197 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: that you can bet on a particular prop, or just 198 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: limiting which side of the market you can bet on 199 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: based off of how big of a player you are, 200 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: Like they maybe shouldn't let lower tier players like the 201 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: Jontay Porter stuff have player props for him listed. So 202 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 4: I'd definitely think there is a step of regulation that 203 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: needs to be had in the player prop department. But 204 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: I am not of the belief that we should be 205 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 4: eliminating gambling or player props entirely because of this particular incident. 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: That's like the same logic as saying every time someone 207 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: gets a DUI, let's get rid of alcohol, Like, it 208 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: just doesn't make sense from a logic perspective based on 209 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: the country we live in. So I think there's conversations 210 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: to be had about regulation, but I don't think we 211 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 4: need to overstep. 212 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this this idea that two hundred k 213 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: was lost on player props? I mean, you're in Vegas. 214 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't move numbers I'm not betting thirty thousand on 215 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: a you know, an April player prop. But here's the thing, Jared, 216 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: you know this. You can't get down thirty thousand or 217 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars on a player prop in a 218 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: regular season game, at least none that. 219 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm aware of. 220 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: And I text texted a lot of gamblers who I 221 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: know who are in some syndicates. They're like, you can't. 222 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: You can't bet twenty five thousand dollars on a player prop. 223 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: You can't do that tonight, Like I don't, So I'm 224 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: not understanding. Even if you had ten accounts to get 225 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: down two hundred thousand, something feels a little off there. 226 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: That's where the racket part of it, right, the syndicate 227 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: part of it comes in. Where you're right, you probably 228 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: can get down a grand on a prop if you're lucky, 229 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: which means you need to have multiple people. You know, 230 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: they call them runners or beards, right, like you can 231 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: send people in to bet for you. But again, when 232 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: you expand, and that's why to your original point about 233 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: Billups making all this money, why is he caring about this? 234 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: Because when you start to filter it down, all right, 235 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 4: you have all these people in this operation and you 236 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: can only get down x amount and you have to 237 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: pay everyone out. The amount that you're going to actually 238 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: make hard cash from this is not even close to 239 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: what you can make from an NBA coach or player salary. 240 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: That's why I've always. 241 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: Been against the games are rigged theory because it's just, 242 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: you know, especially at the professional level, like these guys 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: make so much money, Like why would they risk it? 244 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: Because eventually right word filters out, your group gets big enough, 245 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: and you're gonna get caught. And if you continue to 246 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: make the same pattern of bets, there are you know, 247 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: roadblocks in place for you to get caught. In fact, 248 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: I would say I would argueation in general, like people 249 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: are like, oh, we need to you know, you know, 250 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: criminalized gambling again, gambling, legalized gambling as the costers. No, 251 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: actually legalized gambling is the reason why we caught them. 252 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: So it just it's it's kind of a weird argument 253 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: when people see this and they want to push back 254 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: on the act itself and not the person committing the act. 255 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: And that's where I try to be a voice of 256 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: reason at times. 257 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: And I'm not defending Billups. I'm not saying he's the 258 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: guy who you should go to jail for this. But 259 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: I just looked up a salary. He's around five million dollars. 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: You know, these alleged poker games that where he was 261 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: he was bringing guys in and they would get cleaned out. 262 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: What do you I mean he would have to be 263 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: making Hey, we'll give you a million dollars off the 264 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: books every single time you organize a poke, Like you're 265 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: not doing that for fifty thousand dollars unless Billups is 266 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: just a moron and it's just like, yeah, I want 267 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: all the money. I'm greedy as hell. Like there's just 268 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that's not totally adding up. I 269 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: know the Blazers suspended him. It just feels strange. I mean, 270 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: Chelsey Billets, he's like he was a good player, you know, 271 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: he seems like a good coach. He sounds intelligent. This 272 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: something seems off here and the idea that he's like, yeah, 273 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: we got the win in I think it was April 274 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: of twenty three. They had lost six in a row. 275 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: They were obviously garbage and they get to win and 276 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: that was Dame Lillard played. After that, they just shut 277 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: down their starters. They didn't want to lose like twenty 278 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: games in road end of the season, right, So like 279 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: the idea that he's out there, Hey, you should bet 280 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna bench all our guys, Like you could have 281 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: known that just watching that they ain't playing their right 282 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Like you know when teams are starting the tank load right. 283 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I always say this to me, tanking isn't 284 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: done Like I say this through the frame of the NFL, 285 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: Like tanking's not done on Sundays. 286 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: It's done during the week. 287 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: The decisions that are made by the personnel people, Hey 288 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: we're going to give this guy a shot at starting linebacker. 289 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: We're going to give this guy a shot at starting quarterback. 290 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: The meeting rooms, the way that the teams are coached, 291 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: that's when tanking's done. Because all of these players, when 292 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: they when the game starts right and then the lights 293 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: turn on, they're playing for a job. So it's really 294 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: hard to argue unless you have a Terry Rozier situation 295 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: where he's intentionally Deontay Porter, intentionally not getting to a 296 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: certain point based off of some kind of money that's involved. 297 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: If a team is tanking for a roster spot or 298 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: a draft pick, it's happening during the week, It's not 299 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: happening on game days. So yeah, yeah, like the billup stuff, 300 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get a lot more like this 301 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: is the tip of the Iceberg jam, but we're gonna 302 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: get a lot more information on him. I think what 303 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: happens too is a lot of these guys just get 304 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: into trouble with the wrong people, and they love to 305 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: gamble their competitors, and they get into some trouble and 306 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: then they instead of paying the bookie, instead of paying 307 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: the mob back, they just work and they Hey, i'll earn, 308 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: I'll do this, I'll do that. I think there is 309 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: a case where some of these guys do get in 310 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: trouble in that way, and that can be a cause 311 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: for some of this, you know, nefarious behavior. 312 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: So let's pivot to Terry Rozier. His is a little 313 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: more interesting to me because a the NBA investigated him, 314 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: be his lawyer came out and put out a strong 315 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: statement to podcast Pablo Torri, who is really all up 316 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: in this, that Hey, Terry spoke to the FBI in 317 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Multiple times, the NBA's looked into this, 318 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: the FBI's looked into this. 319 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: He didn't do anything. 320 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: That's what his lawyers saying. And it is weird because 321 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: the NBA cleared Rogier here in the last what six months, 322 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: Something feels again off here, Jared, do you does this 323 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: pass the smell test for you? Because are they using 324 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: Rosier's name and the fact that he's like an actual 325 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: NBA player to you know, make a story here where 326 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: maybe there isn't one, or they trying to embarrass the NBA. 327 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. 328 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: Possible. 329 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: I think the more likely scenario is the NBA couldn't 330 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: really get the hard evidence, or maybe they caught a 331 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: sniff of some of the hard evidence and they just 332 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: didn't want to go down that road, because this is again, 333 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: very damning for the NBA if all of this is true. Again, 334 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: the indictments are posted on the DOJ's website. 335 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: I'm reading. 336 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: I'm looking through them right now, like you can go 337 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: through them right now, and you can read every line 338 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: of it. 339 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard the line, Jared, you can indict 340 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: a ham sandwich one hundred's famous, absolutely. 341 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: Can sue anyone. And I think that weekend. I don't 342 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: want to jump to any conclusions about any of this 343 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: being true, but some of it is just like almost 344 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: too insane not to be true. Like they're celebrating x 345 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 4: amount of money on Rosier's you know, on on on 346 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: his you know, in his house after the game, and again, 347 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: I I don't know why they would put that in 348 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 4: the indictment. 349 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: Unless it wasn't true. That's pretty hard evidence. 350 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 4: So that to me is like, Okay, yeah, no, there, 351 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: there's definitely something there, and I think there was something 352 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: there before. It's just maybe maybe the the corruptions always listen. 353 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: This isn't the first go around that the NBA has 354 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 4: been through this before, so there's always been things. And 355 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: the more you uncover, right, the more threads you pull on. 356 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: That's when at all. Right, Like, I think the connection 357 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 4: of it too is the scary part. The fact that 358 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 4: Phillips and Rosier and Damon and Johntay Porter, the fact 359 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: that they all have these weird dotted lines from these 360 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: same again nefarious characters in these mafia organizations, and they're 361 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: all kind of connected in some weird way. 362 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the part of it that gives it a 363 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: little more of validity. 364 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: Because that's how groups work, right, They group it all 365 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: together and they try to figure out a way to 366 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 4: keep it all in house, so there's not all of 367 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: these people out there with all of this information. So 368 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: the fact that it is all kind of weaved together, 369 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: with all of these people working together to try to 370 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: scam not only with poker but also with sports betting. 371 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: To me, it does give it a little bit more 372 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: starch interesting. So this whole integrity of the league. A 373 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: lot of people, Oh, the NBA is ruined. You can't 374 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: believe anything. I mean, Jared, there's like four hundred and 375 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: fifty players, right, we have what like maybe five guys 376 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: who have been tied up in some stuff. We'll see 377 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: what happens. I don't like this idea that, oh, the 378 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: league is ruined. You know, the whole baseball with gambling, 379 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: way back with the Black Socks, the way back in 380 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: doing nineteen nineteen or whatever it was. And then you 381 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: had Otani's interpreter every Sunday, you know, betting football. Hey man, 382 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: the referees, oh, they're on the take. You know, this 383 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: is just this feels like normal kind of sort of. 384 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: No, Well, this particular situation is is is an extraordinary 385 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: you know rabbit hole. For sure, There's no way that 386 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: this is what is taking place throughout the league on 387 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: a nightly basis. It's just it's just not And again, 388 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 4: I think at the professional level, you really can throw 389 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 4: it out the window. Like NFL's been hit with a 390 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: couple of minor things. Right at Calvin Ridley, I think 391 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: betting on basketball at the team facility like that. Again, 392 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: like that kind of stuff is just the housekeeping of 393 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: learning how to deal with regulated gambling. In the professional 394 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: sports world. We have not had any incident rise to 395 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 4: this level where you have players leaking or coaches leaking 396 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: information that certain people will be out to gain an 397 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 4: advantage on the books. Even the Emmanuel class A stuff 398 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: right in baseball that is so isolated because those are 399 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: micro bets that you can only get down. 400 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: X amount on. 401 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: Wait, I don't even know who that is. 402 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: Oh, Emmanuel class A is the Guardian's pitcher. 403 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: I think there was another one who was telling his family, 404 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: I think, and again this is all none of this 405 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 4: is one hundred percent confirm, but telling his family so 406 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 4: you can bet. You can make a micro bet on 407 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: whether the first pitch of an inning will. 408 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: Be a ball or a strike. 409 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 4: Oh geez, And the pitcher has so much control over that, 410 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: and it doesn't even really impact the outcome of the 411 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: game at all, Like if it's one to zero top 412 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 4: of the first inning, like who cares, It's literally no 413 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: impact on the game. So those are the types of 414 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: bets that I think we need to regulate. But the 415 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: fact that people think this is happening widespread on a 416 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: nightly basis and every time a call goes against your 417 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 4: particular wager, you think it's rigged. Yeah, it's just it's 418 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: completely asinine. It's just it's not the right way to 419 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: look at this situation. I think there's a lot of 420 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: incompetence that's involved on a nightly basis with the referees 421 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: and with the way they officiate the games, but that 422 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that there's practice. So I think this is 423 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: not happening widespread. This is an isolated incident. Certain athletes 424 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: they make so much money it just is not in 425 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 4: their best interest to even pursue this kind of, you know, activity, 426 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: And I think for the most part, it's just bad 427 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: officiating most nights that people get upset about. 428 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: Now, as a gambler, is this, Jared, all this stuff 429 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: going to give you any pause whatsoever in betting on 430 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: the NBA. 431 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: No, I don't bet the NBAT period at all. 432 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, very rarely. Usually later in the year. I'm very 433 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: focused on football. During football season, I try to keep 434 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: my I try to keep my eye on the ball 435 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: because I'm just you know, I get asked on so 436 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 4: many more football shows and I do so much more 437 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: football content that basketball doesn't become a big thing until 438 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: later on in the year for me. But I will 439 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: not hesitate at all. And especially when you're getting close 440 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: to the playoffs. You notice the one thing about all 441 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: these games, like none of them are playoff games, none 442 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: of them are high profile games. They're all games where 443 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 4: teams are tanking or teams are missing stars. So it's like, 444 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: again like I think the the high leverage games j MAC, 445 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: like none of those are ever really impacted by this. 446 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: This is all lower level stuff. 447 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: We see this a lot in college basketball at like 448 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: the three level, Like I see a lot of this 449 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: at the lower levels of sports, where it's harder to 450 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: get down on the games, but there they fly under 451 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: the radar more, which also makes it more unique because 452 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: then if there's a large amount of money that gets 453 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: placed on some random D two game, it raises the 454 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: red flags of the integrity organizations that monitor this. But 455 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 4: if we're talking about hey, it's the playoffs, I want 456 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 4: to bet Lebron over under points. Like I'm not gonna 457 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 4: think twice about any of this when I fire off 458 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: those wagers. 459 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 460 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 461 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 462 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 463 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: listen live. 464 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: We could wrap up with this Jared NFL Week eight. 465 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: You know, I listen, I'm doing the contest. It's spinning 466 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: my wheels. Eighteen and seventeen. Fortunately nobody, I mean, the 467 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: public is getting slaughtered this year. They're doing horribly. I 468 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: think they were like thirty nine percent in the contest 469 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: or something. I am just curious, just do any games 470 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: jump out at you because this week kind of sort 471 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: of sucks, right six teams on a buy. You had 472 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: the Thursday night game, the Monday night games of double 473 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: digit's bread, you got Colts Titans is I think minus 474 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: fifteen right now? It just feels like there aren't many 475 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: great games to bet this week. Do you have anything 476 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: that you jumps out and teasers aren't allowed, just for 477 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: the record, if. 478 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: You can get the well teasers. I really like the 479 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: Falcons to Eagles teaser. I think Philly, you know, revenge 480 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: spot for them. You have to face the same team 481 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: twice in two and a half weeks. I think that's 482 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: a really good and Giants coming off that. I like 483 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 4: teams that are coming back from difficult travel situations or 484 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: fading these teams like we're gonna get Houston or excuse me, 485 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: Jacksonville in a little bit, They're gonna come to Vegas, 486 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 4: and I love fading teams the week after they come 487 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 4: to Vegas. I love fading teams the week after they 488 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: go to Denver. And that game was nuts last week 489 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: for the Giants. So I think you can put the 490 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: Eagles in a teaser feel pretty good even without aj Brown, 491 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: and then the Falcons. I mean, the Dolphins look like 492 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: the worst team in the NFL right now, maybe Tennessee 493 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 4: and New York. So I think Atlanta coming off their 494 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: loss to San Francisco, right I like zig zagging anytime 495 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 4: a team's coming off of ats loss or just a 496 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: loss in general. I like betting on them when they're 497 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: facing a team. If it's it'd be more helpful if 498 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: they were coming off of a win or a cover, 499 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: like the Giants are in the Philly case. But in 500 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 4: the Dolphins case, I think we just fade him. The 501 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: Broncos are in that situation, right, Dallas off a really 502 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: good win against Washington. Broncos had that crazy win where 503 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 4: they were fortunate to just win the game they didn't cover. 504 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: Now you get a little bit of a shorter line 505 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: this week against Denver. I got three with the Broncos 506 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: laying a field goal, So decent bet too. 507 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I would play Denver this week. I 508 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: don't like Dallas defense at all. 509 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't even think Dallas likes thirty. 510 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. I did just have to look 511 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: this up. So aj Brown didn't practice Wednesday. 512 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: I was waiting. 513 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe he's getting a veteran wrestling 514 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: He didn't practice Thursday, and I concerning, I do wonder. 515 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the Giant secondary's trash, we know that, but no, 516 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: what he out there scares you? And could they could 517 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: they just play up? Hey we're double dog. Dare you 518 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: Devonte Smith to go beat us? 519 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Deep? 520 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: I just the Eagles kind of scared me. And I'm 521 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 2: gonna be honest. The Falcons. I've liked them a lot 522 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 2: all season. This spot scares me. We may take them 523 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: and survivor, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, I 524 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: don't know if I can stomach the Falcons because you 525 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: know they're always due for a stinker. Bro and Michael Pennocks, 526 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: by the way, are limited in practice. The Kirk Cousins 527 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: experience last year. I mean, I think he led the 528 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: league and pick sixes. I'm not poking holes at your best. 529 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, I like nothing this week. Yeah, 530 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 4: it's I'll be I agree, it is a tough week. 531 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: I don't have as many like I think the tea. 532 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: I think the Falcons get home. I'm i to me 533 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 4: in Miami is on the verge. 534 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, the. 535 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: Penis injury certainly scares me. I think the Patriots. So 536 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 4: the Browns have had this weird. 537 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: Thing where their defense sucks on the road. 538 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 4: They're allowing like eighty percent of their road opponents over 539 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: the last two years to go over their team total. 540 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: So so if you think New England's offense is legit 541 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: and you think Cleveland's defense doesn't travel as well, that 542 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: should be a really good crowd this week. 543 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: Right. The Patriots have been on the road for the 544 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: last couple weeks. 545 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: Now they come back home and there they look like 546 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 4: a I don't wanna say super Bowl contender, but they 547 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: definitely look like they're at least in contention for a 548 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: playoff spot, maybe even the division. So I think that'll 549 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: be a good crowd in New England at Foxboro on Sunday. 550 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: And you can get twenty three and a half. So 551 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: you get over twenty three and a half on the 552 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: Patriots team, totally get to twenty four, you win. 553 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a that's a decent bet. 554 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: I do. 555 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: I mean, again, this is nitpicking, but like Drake May 556 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: every week is in the freaking blue medical tent. I 557 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: just I can't stand that. It terrifies me because he's 558 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: really good. Last one is the Texans Niners. Texans taking 559 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: money on Thursday. I like him, but I'm I'm worried 560 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: about Nico Collins. I hate betting against the Niners, but 561 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: I just think this is a matchup nightmare by far, 562 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: the best defense Mac Jones will have faced with the Texans, 563 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: and they're coming off, like you said, off an embarrassing 564 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: loss where they look horrible. But again, Nico collins with 565 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: the concussion. If he's not there, that's already a crap 566 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: offense with rookie receivers. I don't. 567 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: I agree. 568 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: I think Houston shuts down McCaffrey, which is the way 569 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: you shut down the Niners these days, right, like Atlanta 570 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 4: did not shut down McCaffrey last week. I think Houston 571 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: will do a better job of that. The market's kind 572 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: of telling you about Houston there, right. San Francisco's record 573 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: looks good, they've kind of strung together some wins, and 574 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: Houston's look terrible, especially on Monday. But the Texans again 575 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: still favored and the number moving in their direction. So 576 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: it's kind of your indicator that Houston maybe is a 577 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 4: little bit better than their record, and maybe their recent 578 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: play indicated. 579 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: But I agree with you, Niko is a big injury. 580 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: If he's not gonna play. This is not a bad week, Jared, 581 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: As you know the phrase to keep the powder dry, 582 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: save it for next week. 583 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 3: I know it's tough. 584 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: I know, I know it's difficult. Maybe go to a 585 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Halloween party, interact with humans, right, touch some grass, as 586 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: they said, such grass as my kid. Yes, yes, yes, 587 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: all right, Jared Smith, Fox Sports Radio, Saturdays, nine am 588 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: to twelve pm Eastern. Keep up the good work man, 589 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: thanks a lot. 590 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 591 00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: JAYMC. 592 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching 593 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. Here's 594 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: your best bat. 595 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff from Jared. Let's quickly chat about 596 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: the Chargers thirty seven to Romp. My gosh, that game 597 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: was terrible. Chargers basically went up and down the field 598 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: in the first half, did not punt I believe until 599 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, or maybe they didn't punt at all. 600 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: I gotta quickly check that, but essentially Chargers offense looked 601 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: way better than it did in the first half against 602 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: the Colts, when I believe they had three points. M Yeah, 603 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers. No, the Chargers did not punt at all 604 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: the entire game. They were on an offensive juggernaut. It 605 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: was more like the Vikings didn't want to be there. 606 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: Vikings activated Aaron Jones, they had Jordan Mason. The Vikings 607 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: run game eleven carries thirty four yarts. Like what you 608 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: just watched. Jonathan Taylor cook the hell out of them 609 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: Devon a Chan a couple of weeks ago win nuts. 610 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: Why couldn't you do anything this? This is a pathetic 611 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: performance from the three and four Vikings. Afterward, Kevin O'Connor 612 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: was like, listen, if JJ McCarthy's healthy, he'll start. Carson 613 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Wentz was abysmal, sacked five times. Minnesota is in a 614 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: bad place right now. And here's the scary part. The 615 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings at three and four have wins over Caleb 616 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: Williams and the opener, which kind of was a luckbox win. 617 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: Late they beat Jake Browning forty eight ten, and they 618 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: beat in London Dylan Gabriel in his first start. They 619 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: have losses to and this is where it gets really scary, 620 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: the Falcons at home and Michael Pennix Aaron Rodgers twenty 621 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: four to twenty one in a bad game in London. 622 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: Then they what is Eagles? Yeah, they lost to the 623 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: Eagles tough last week, and then they got thumped by 624 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 2: the Chargers next yup, it gets hard at the Detroit Lions. Now. 625 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy should be back for that, but they gotta 626 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: need it. Then they face Lebar Jackson on November ninth. 627 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Those two games back to back. If they lose both those, 628 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: they'll be underdogs. They're looking at three and six. They 629 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: still have games at Green Bay, probably a loss, at Seattle, 630 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: probably a loss. They have to go to Dallas, and 631 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: then they have the Detroit Lions and Grebata end the season. Folks, 632 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: that's easily six more losses. So now you're looking at 633 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: seven and ten. I think it's safe to say that 634 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings will not be going to the playoffs. 635 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: And I know I'm eliminating teams early. Washington, they're done. Minnesota, 636 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: I think they're done. Just not. It's just been a 637 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: wacky start to the season. NFC's very challenging, and you 638 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: know the Carson Wentz experience is over. Now let's quickly 639 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: look at this week eight schedule, and I touched on 640 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: it with Jerrard during the interview. If you skipped over 641 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: the interview, well that's your loss. I just I don't 642 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: like the card. So are we only have thirteen games 643 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: because there's six teams? Don't buy one game's down soon? 644 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: Now down to twelve. I don't know that Chiefs Washington 645 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: at minus twelve and a half is bettable. Could Mariota 646 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: come in the back door? Down you know, down seventeen. 647 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: If it's thirty four to seventeen late and Mariotas gets 648 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: a garbage time touchdown, you lose. I just I'm not 649 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: certain that I want to get involved in that game. 650 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: So now you're down to eleven games. Do you want 651 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: to bet the Colts Titans? I actually, guys, I'm really 652 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: close to pulling the trigger on the Colts. That's how 653 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: weak this card is. So now you're down to ten. 654 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: If you don't want that, you don't want to bet 655 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: a fifteen point favorite at home games that I have 656 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: bet now this week, they're I really like the egos 657 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: a lot, but aj Brown not practicing on Wednesday or 658 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: Thursday just has me super nervous. I do have several 659 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: teasers at play this is listen. As I said at 660 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: the end of the interview with Jared, you don't have 661 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: to bet at every freaking game, guys. There is nothing 662 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: that says you must fire if you want to take 663 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: a breather. And I got a cut bunch of college bets. 664 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: I'll just rattle those off here shortly. But if you 665 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: want to take a breather, you can't. You don't have 666 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: to go out and fire on all the games now. 667 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: Of course, it's fun when you do NFL bets. I 668 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: have Atlanta Falcons minus seven, minus one to twenty. Pennix 669 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: sounds like he's gonna be a go, but he's not 670 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Miami is in trouble. Did you see 671 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: Darren Waller, who's been like an actual weapon for them? 672 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: Is he's going to be down and probably out for 673 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: the rest of the season. On IR. The worry, of course, 674 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: is that eh Han breaks loose, Jalen Waddle catches a 675 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: slant and goes the distance like there's a world where 676 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: Miami on a fast track is able to generate some offense. 677 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: Two finds his footing. I don't. I think this is 678 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: probably going to go down. There'll be some money on Miami. 679 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: So the smart way to bet it is the Falcons 680 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: and a teaser take them down to one or one 681 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: and a half, right, I think the Buffalo Bills, who 682 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: could be susceptible to the Cuba Hubbard Rico Dowdles show, 683 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: I think it's smart to take the Buffalo Bills from 684 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: seven down to win by one. So that's a teaser 685 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: Falcons Bills. I firmly believe the Baltimore Ravens. It sounds 686 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: like Lamar's probably gonna go. You tease them down against 687 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: the Bears. I think with Lamar and reinforcements on defense, 688 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: I think they'll be okay. I think the New England 689 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: Patriots should be okay at home. Tease down again to 690 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: cover with a touchdown against Dylan Gabriel. I mean, the 691 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: New England Patriots a seven point favorite over anyone. Now. 692 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: I do think Vrabel against the rookie quarterback probably is 693 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: a big edge for the Patriots. It's laying a big 694 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: number with Drake May. It's a bit of a tough 695 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: sell if you ask me. That being said, I think, 696 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: for sure, tease them down and you're in good shape. 697 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: So the Eagles are the big one because of the 698 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: AJ Brown injury. I mean, in Survi, I'm talking to 699 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: my buddy and we've got we've got to make a pick. 700 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: It's kind of between Atlanta and the Eagles, and Atlanta 701 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: scares the bejeebis out of everybody, and so it's like, okay, 702 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: do we just go Eagles anyway? And I'm gonna go. 703 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: I'll be so pissed if Jackson dart ends my survivor's season. 704 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean, there's legit money on the line here. There's 705 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: no way I can take the Bengals. I think, if anything, 706 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: you probably bet the New York Jets straight up in 707 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: that one, right right? I mean, how on Earth is 708 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and the Bengals a six and a half 709 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: point favorite. Just so what if they beat the Steelers. 710 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a team that can't stop anybody. They 711 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: got one of the worst defenses in the league. Offensive 712 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: line's terrible. Now Sauce Gardner may not go. I mean, 713 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: it's a wacky weekend. I did bet the Bucks minus four, 714 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: but even they have a slew of injuries. I don't 715 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: know who's playing for him, Bucky irving A. He's on 716 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: my fantasy team and I see him out every freaking week. 717 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: So this is a tough one. I think Dallas is 718 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: probably at three and a half, one of the better bets. 719 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: You know, Denver plays a lot of man defense, and 720 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: I think Lamb and Pickens should should be okay against them. 721 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: I think the Denver beat defense is a little overrated, 722 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: to be honest, the data. The problem is the Dallas 723 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: defense is just buns and bo Nicks could find his 724 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: footing and instantly they run away with it. I so 725 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: I like Tampa favor by four on the road. I 726 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: like Dallas getting three and a half on the road. 727 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: I have nothing on Packers Steelers. If you ask me, 728 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 2: I'd have to take Packers. But they've been a letdown 729 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. The Houston Texans minus one. 730 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm now seeing that that's off the board. I would 731 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 2: assume that's either a quarterback related it's not about Nico Collins, 732 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: and uh, you know Nico Collins got a concussion. If 733 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: you don't have Nico Collins wide. 734 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: Receiver, who are you? Who exactly are you throwing to? 735 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 2: I mean, they got all young guys out there. It's 736 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: it's a really tough week. Guys the contest. Oh yeah, 737 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: Nico Collins and Christian Kirk trying to figure out that 738 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: they're both gonna play. And it's like you yead zoos. 739 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: So now you're back in CJ. Stroud really with nobody. 740 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: I just it's a it's a brutal week in the NFL. 741 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: So college, I'm on Indiana minus twenty five, yes, minus 742 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 2: twenty five against UCLA. I know that's crazy, but I'll 743 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: go Indiana Oklahoma minus five and a half. Yes, I 744 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: fired on Oklahoma minus five and a half against Ole Miss. 745 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 2: I'm on Iowa State minus three, Arkansas minus one week 746 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech minus five and a half. 747 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: Hokies. 748 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: It looks like Kentucky is plus nine mildly interesting, Wake 749 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: Forest plus three. A lot of bets. You know, I 750 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't mind adding this here. My guy, Adam Chernoff 751 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: is you know, he's been on the pod many times. 752 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: He created something that's awesome. He's not really promoting it, 753 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: so I'll just say it here. But he started a 754 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: website where he doesn't charge for his insight and picks, 755 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: but he offers like a hey, pay whatever you think 756 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: you want to pay, and then you can have access 757 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: to my picks. But because you have to pay, he 758 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: knows who's signing up. And I actually kind of sort 759 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: of like that. So I am in the process of 760 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: making one for myself and hopefully it'll be done by 761 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: the end of the football season and tinker with it 762 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: during basketball and I'll just have it and you know, 763 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: you can be like, Hey, I'm Joe Smith. I like 764 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: Jason stuff. Jay, here's twenty bucks. I'll read all your picks. 765 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't have to ask you and shake you down 766 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: in the DMS, and and then I could just get 767 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: your picks on the site or Jay, sorry, here's only 768 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: here's five bucks. That's all I can do. Bro, you 769 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 2: wanted five bucks? Fine, you know I'm gonna have picks 770 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: up there all the time, and so I think I'm 771 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: going to be building one of those, and it just 772 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: seems like an easier place. Hey, you got my picks 773 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: on the herd, you got them on the podcast, you 774 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: got me on social This is just a catch all. 775 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: So you just know exactly where to go. There's no 776 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: question who are you on If you have a busy week, 777 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 2: you're traveling for work, and then all of a sudden 778 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: you wake up Saturday morning, Oh what's jmack on? Boom, 779 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: You go to the site, You've already paid whatever you 780 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: want to pay, and we're good to go. So that's 781 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: in the process. I'm not going to be heavily promoting that. 782 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: I got enough stuff to promote. I want less social 783 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: media people. 784 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 3: That's the goal. 785 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: Less brain rot. As my kids like to say, all right, 786 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: have a good weekend. 787 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: See that