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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode forty forty of Hurdle, a podcast that

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Speaker 1: talks to everyone from entrepreneurs and CEOs to athletes about

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Speaker 1: how they got through tough times hurdles of sorts by

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Speaker 1: leaning into wellness. Today's live episode comes from a recent

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Speaker 1: discussion I hosted in collaboration.

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Speaker 2: With we Work Labs in New York City, and essentially.

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Speaker 1: We Work Labs as a home for early stage startups

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Speaker 1: help entrepreneurs just like me give their big ideas a

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Speaker 1: real shot. In the episode, I sit down with Adam

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Speaker 1: Callan of Gene Motorcycles, Jesse Dover of Daggie Dover, and

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Speaker 1: mar Laidy and Naomi hereby Ashi of Shine. All four

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Speaker 1: of these rock stars have worked their butts off to

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Speaker 1: obviously be a super stressful undertaking total understatement. So we

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about finding balance and how they make

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Speaker 1: Got this.

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Speaker 2: Shine is a platform that they built.

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Speaker 1: It sends free daily text messages with motivational quotes positive

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Speaker 1: affirmations and actions you can take to just be a

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Speaker 1: better you.

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Speaker 2: An example of.

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Speaker 1: A text that I got this morning, I can do blank,

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Speaker 1: do big things, Emily, step one, shed self doubt. Try

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Speaker 2: But with Shine, it's just like a nice reminder that

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Speaker 2: I can handle whatever the day throws my way.

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Speaker 1: that's it, my friends. With that, let's get to hurdling,

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Speaker 1: all right, what's up New York?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: I'm I can't keep track of where I am.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run through this line of wonderful humans next

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Speaker 1: the co founders of Shine, I have Mara Lidi and

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: One time, I what my what I thought was my

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Speaker 1: So thank you, Lindsay Bisha. Well, welcome to you both.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me a little bit about Shine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so thank you for having us. We're really excited to

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Speaker 6: Mar and I were talking earlier about this panel, and

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Speaker 7: So we're just really really proud to be here.

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Speaker 6: We co founded Shine based on the belief that wellbeing

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Speaker 6: idea came from Mara and I actually meeting eight years

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Speaker 6: it based on our experience and text messaging, and that

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Speaker 1: Well said, thanks for coming, guys, thank you, thanks for

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Speaker 3: And fun fact, Naomi just had a baby two months ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, wow, Yeah, I had a niece the

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Speaker 1: Adam Callen, founder of Jane Motorcycles. Nice to have you, Adam. Hi, Emily,

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Speaker 8: So, first of all, thank you for having me, and

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Speaker 8: We made clothes for men both on the bike and

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Speaker 5: But it's not just a clothing brand. We have a cafe.

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Speaker 8: The way, it's funny that you two look like you

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Speaker 1: Justin and I are both wearing denim jumpsuits and neither

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Speaker 8: And we're in Williamsburg and I hope to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Whenever I talk to anyone that lives in Williamsburg and

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Speaker 8: It's funny because because you know, motorcycles can be really

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Speaker 8: Fifty percent of people that walk in don't even ride

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Speaker 8: So we wanted to kind of cross over and transcend motorcycles.

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Speaker 10: Dagney Dover, which is a performance bag brand. Basically, what

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Speaker 1: so that means that you're pretty busy. Tell me what

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Speaker 1: one thing that you do for yourself to stay well is.

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Speaker 1: So that can be anything from fitness to mindfulness to

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Speaker 1: how do you give back to you? What's your form

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Speaker 4: Whoever wants to start us off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can start something that we So Shine has

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Speaker 10: I go to Brooklyn called Maha Rose and it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It out amazing, amazing, I should. I'm in let's right,

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Speaker 8: It's it's a it's got a spiritual boot camp where

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Speaker 8: No sound the class uncertain, But so that's like on

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Speaker 6: When you get more responsibility at work, but you don't

444
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Speaker 6: get a pay raise or a job like title change.

445
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Speaker 6: We're just expected to do all the things. So I

446
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Speaker 6: think pressure specifically around how you can be the best

447
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 6: realistically when there's too much. It's actually too much, like

448
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 6: you can't have it all, you can't be the best

449
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Speaker 6: at every single relationship and role in your life. And

450
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Speaker 6: so what does that look like and what we help

451
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Speaker 6: our community do And what has been a big theme

452
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Speaker 6: from the last year is the concept of autonomy, just

453
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Speaker 6: reminding ourselves of the agency that we have within our

454
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Speaker 6: own life to actually practice emotional discipline and lead versus

455
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Speaker 6: react to our life. I think that is a collective

456
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Speaker 6: that a lot of us are feeling right now.

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Speaker 7: I know we talk about this all the time. I

458
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Speaker 7: feel it individually.

459
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Speaker 6: Is this idea that we've all co signed an expectation

460
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Speaker 6: where we can always be on we can always give

461
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Speaker 6: our best.

462
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Speaker 7: It's like go bigger, go.

463
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Speaker 6: Bigger, go home, like I'm in it, like you can

464
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Speaker 6: sleep when you're dead. And the reality is is that

465
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Speaker 6: actually doesn't work. We burn out, we suffer. We look

466
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Speaker 6: at what is like a very big, ambitious and exciting

467
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Speaker 6: life and we resent it. And so what we're helping

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Speaker 6: our community do is take a step back and say,

469
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Speaker 6: of that balance, which is basically synonymous with pressure, like

470
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Speaker 6: what pressure are you putting on yourself? And what pressure

471
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Speaker 6: is external? And how can you better distill and identify

472
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Speaker 6: what are the real pressures and are perceived pressures? Because

473
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Speaker 6: real pressure is real. But often when when I think

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Speaker 6: about the things that stress me out the most, or

475
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Speaker 6: the things that I get the most in my head around,

476
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Speaker 6: it's often other people's perception of me versus if I

477
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Speaker 6: take that kind of mindful moment and just say like

478
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Speaker 6: is this real? Is it about me? Is it about

479
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Speaker 6: like what I actually need to do? Or is it

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Speaker 6: about what I think that other people think that I

481
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Speaker 6: should be doing. And so that that pressure and reminder

482
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Speaker 6: of autonomy was a huge theme from last year and

483
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Speaker 6: looking forward is it's going to be interesting to see

484
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Speaker 6: how that manifests when we actually remind ourselves of our power.

485
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Speaker 6: How much healthier can we be, how many more jobs

486
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Speaker 6: can be created, how many more entrepreneurships will emerge when

487
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Speaker 6: we just remind ourselves the power that we have to

488
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Speaker 6: dictate our life versus just responding to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think something that's really powerful.

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned that one of my goals now is

491
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Speaker 1: to obviously start some sort of meditation group.

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Speaker 4: But what's really.

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Speaker 1: Powerful is just this idea that you touched upon, of

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Speaker 1: the goal to say no more often as well.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of the times when we.

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Speaker 1: Say yes, it's because we care so passionately.

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Speaker 4: About the people.

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Speaker 1: That we involve ourselves with and we want to make

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Speaker 1: them happy. But when you take a step back, sometimes

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Speaker 1: saying yes actually does a huge disservice to you. And

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Speaker 1: so you have to think about if you don't take

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Speaker 1: that time to prioritize your mental health, then how can

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Speaker 1: you be the best version of yourself for other people?

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Speaker 1: Which is something that can be super sticky. Is that

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Speaker 1: something you can relate to.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of like that thing

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Speaker 8: you hear on every airplane trip. It's like, you know,

508
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Speaker 8: if the oxygen masks comes down, you have to put

509
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Speaker 8: your oxygen mask first before you help anybody else out.

510
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Speaker 8: So if you're not taking care of yourself, how you

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Speaker 8: take care of anybody else?

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Speaker 4: Exactly exactly?

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Speaker 3: And I think a question worth asking where when you're

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Speaker 3: kind of in the middle of it and you're like

515
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Speaker 3: should I do this or should I not do this?

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Speaker 3: Is is it sustainable? In that Let's say I said

517
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Speaker 3: you should have inbox zero today, like sorry to cause

518
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Speaker 3: people anxiety, right, but like you should get back to

519
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Speaker 3: every single person that reaches out to you today on Slack, text, message,

520
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Speaker 3: email in fifteen minutes. And you might say yeah, I could,

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Speaker 3: And I would say is that sustainable? And if you

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Speaker 3: say no, if it's not sustainable, that means it's impossible. Right.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying by saying it's not sustainable is it's

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Speaker 3: not possible. It's not possible for me to continue to

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Speaker 3: do this. So we set ourselves up, to Naomi's pointing,

526
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Speaker 3: to this level of impossibility, this expectation of doing things

527
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Speaker 3: that we never necessarily agreed to do, but because of

528
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Speaker 3: the responsiveness that we feel like we need to have.

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Speaker 3: And I do think this over indexes for women, but generally,

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Speaker 3: the responsiveness that we think we need to have has

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Speaker 3: put us in a position where we think, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I could just do this today, Well I'll just do

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Speaker 3: this tomorrow, and that leads to a level that we

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Speaker 3: know just is and it's not possible, which means that

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Speaker 3: something has to give, and that it's usually us, and

536
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Speaker 3: it's usually our mental health and how we feel on

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Speaker 3: a daily basis. So it's just that's like a gut

538
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Speaker 3: check that I think is really helpful for when you're questioning,

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Speaker 3: like can I do this tonight It's like nine pm,

540
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Speaker 3: I just got home from a really long day. I

541
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Speaker 3: need to get back to these emails. I gotta do

542
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: that thing, and just questioning, you know, is it external

543
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Speaker 3: and internal? And also like is it sustainable if I

544
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Speaker 3: do this tomorrow and I did this the day after

545
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Speaker 3: and I did this the day after, is that sustainable?

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Speaker 3: If not, if that means it's impossible. So don't set

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Speaker 3: yourself up for.

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Speaker 6: That's really quickly the I'm reading Essentialism, Has anyone read that?

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Speaker 7: It's really good.

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Speaker 6: I read it around the new year and come back

551
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Speaker 6: from attorney leave, and it was a very powerful read

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Speaker 6: coming into the new year around like, actually, life is

553
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Speaker 6: filled of mostly non essential things like non essential emails,

554
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Speaker 6: non essential meetings, non essential conversations, and what we have

555
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Speaker 6: to do. The biggest challenge for our generation is actually

556
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Speaker 6: not how do we deal with technology, it's how do

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Speaker 6: we practice self direction and self discipline? Because there's so

558
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Speaker 6: much distraction and all things, a lot of times are

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Speaker 6: created equal in terms of the weight and urgency in

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Speaker 6: which we respond to them.

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Speaker 7: But the reality is very few things in our day are.

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Speaker 6: Essential, and so it's up to us to figure out

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Speaker 6: how we self direct to identify the essential. But an

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Speaker 6: example that it gives in that which is very related

565
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Speaker 6: to well being is the have you heard the example

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Speaker 6: of how like you reward someone at performance by making

567
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Speaker 6: them a manager where they stop performing on the thing.

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Speaker 6: And it's a similar aspect of saying yes, Like there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of positive reinforcement that you'll get from saying yes.

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Speaker 6: You're like the go to person, you're the problem solver,

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Speaker 6: or you're the person everyone can always rely on. You'd

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Speaker 6: want to be in like a bunker with this person.

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Speaker 6: But if you keep saying yes, over time, the ability

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Speaker 6: to be that clutch person gets completely watered down because

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Speaker 6: you're so burnt out. And so what originally made you

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Speaker 6: that go to like, oh, I always want that person

577
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Speaker 6: on my team get gets destroyed if you don't consciously

578
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Speaker 6: get up every single day and say, what are the

579
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Speaker 6: most essential things I'm going to do with my time?

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Speaker 6: And I have to have the emotional discipline to say

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Speaker 6: no to protect my ability to perform, to continue to

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Speaker 6: be that person.

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Speaker 1: I like that you brought up books. I'm big on books.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big bookkeeper. And I'm going to pose this

585
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Speaker 1: question to all of you. If you have to give

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Speaker 1: someone a gift and it is a book, do you

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Speaker 1: have a book that you might lean to to give

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Speaker 1: to someone else. So last year, two years ago actually,

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Speaker 1: and last year I read it. A girlfriend gave me

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Speaker 1: the book Journey to the Heart, and I read it.

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Speaker 4: I stole it.

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Speaker 1: I read it every single day for all of twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: And I think I personally sold like a thousand copies

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Speaker 1: of this book by posting it on Instagram. But it

595
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Speaker 1: was really motivating for me to really take time in

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Speaker 1: the morning's first thing when I woke up. The way

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Speaker 1: that the book is formatted is that each day has

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Speaker 1: its own individual meditation. And so starting my day with

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Speaker 1: a meditation, starting fresh thinking about something that was like

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Speaker 1: not the thousand things on my to do list or

601
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Speaker 1: the things that were stressing me out from the day before,

602
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Speaker 1: really helped me turn.

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Speaker 4: Inward and give back to myself in the morning.

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Speaker 1: So if you were gonna ask me that question, that's

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Speaker 1: what I would say, so, now I pose it to

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Speaker 1: all of you. You have the opportunity to give someone

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Speaker 1: a book, What book do you give them?

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Speaker 10: Well, are we the same person, because that's the one

609
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Speaker 10: that I was going to tell everyone to buy. So

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Speaker 10: definitely get that one if you don't have it. I

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Speaker 10: think that in terms of other books that could be

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Speaker 10: good rex Evolve your Brain. I bought it because one

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Speaker 10: of my like health mentors had suggested that I grab it.

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Speaker 9: And I started reading it.

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Speaker 10: It was like it's kind of thick, it was very daunting,

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Speaker 10: But what it talks about is the psychology of how

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Speaker 10: to change your habits and like why habits form, and

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Speaker 10: in the way that the messages were crafted, it was

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Speaker 10: really helpful for me to understand, like why I was

620
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Speaker 10: repeating the same things over and over again, healthy or

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Speaker 10: unhealthy and kind of shift some of my behaviors in

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Speaker 10: a way that was like sustainable for me long term.

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Speaker 10: And I think that one is like great for everything

624
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Speaker 10: beyond health. It was actually really helpful for changing certain

625
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Speaker 10: habits like in my whole life that I.

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Speaker 9: Wasn't really super proud of. Evolve your Brain really good.

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Speaker 8: So I would give the book. It's called the Mask

628
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Speaker 8: of Masculinity by Lewis Howes. And basically what it's about

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Speaker 8: is it's an amazing book for men, but it's an

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Speaker 8: incredible book for men and women. And it is basically

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Speaker 8: uncovering the different masks that we as men grow up

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Speaker 8: wearing our whole life, Like the mask of being an athlete,

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Speaker 8: the mask of finances, the mask of being stoic, the

634
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Speaker 8: mask of the know it all, the joker, like, all

635
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Speaker 8: of these masks that we grow up learning to kind

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Speaker 8: of put in front of us that are false masks,

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Speaker 8: you know, like you grow up and you're here like

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Speaker 8: you know, you know, man up or like you know,

639
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Speaker 8: grow up hair, like all the things that like really

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 8: kind of hide who you really are as a man.

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Speaker 8: And this book uncovers these masks in a way that

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 8: like really like lets you be vulnerable and lets you

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Speaker 8: be a real authentic man and be be able to

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Speaker 8: be like truthful with yourself and like and and just

645
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Speaker 8: remove the mask. And for me, it's it was a

646
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Speaker 8: very important book because I didn't grow up with the

647
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Speaker 8: very positive male role models. I had, you know, a

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Speaker 8: dad who was like a horrible communicator, and I had

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Speaker 8: some like physical like abuse in my in my in

650
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Speaker 8: my childhood.

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Speaker 5: So that's what I thought a man was.

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Speaker 8: Like, you know, you fight, and and you and and

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Speaker 8: and you just have to like not be sensitive and

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Speaker 8: and this book is has flipped that on its head

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Speaker 8: and it's really like showed me how to like really

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Speaker 8: open up and and be live life what like.

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Speaker 5: A real man would live. So I would give that

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Speaker 5: to anybody.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Thank you, You're awesome. I want you to

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Speaker 3: speak to like a lot of groups of different people just.

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Speaker 4: Are going to go on to speaking. It's different works

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Speaker 4: around here.

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Speaker 3: It's really cool. And I think vulnerability matters generally, and

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Speaker 3: I think particularly being a man and and like having

665
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Speaker 3: different life experiences, it's it's really important to share that.

666
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Speaker 3: So thanks for China similar in a similar vein of

667
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Speaker 3: of like my experiences affecting how I would recommend a

668
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Speaker 3: book Rich Dad, Poor Dad is a really good book.

669
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Speaker 3: It teaches you a lot about your patterns with finances

670
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Speaker 3: and I see shaking your head. Yeah. More than anything

671
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: from like religion to political views, the number one habit

672
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Speaker 3: that we inherent from our parents is the way that

673
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Speaker 3: we handle finances. There's a really good Oprah video of

674
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Speaker 3: her talking to Will Smith and Jada Pinkett about this

675
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Speaker 3: if anybody's interested, but in and in the video, Will

676
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Speaker 3: Smith says, like, you know, I achieved all this success,

677
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Speaker 3: I had this money, all this fame, and I was

678
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Speaker 3: still living like I was poor, The way that I

679
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Speaker 3: would spend money, the way that I thought about my

680
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Speaker 3: He didn't say self care, but ultimately like how he

681
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Speaker 3: invested in himself was in this kind of more sporadic,

682
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: short term way that feels like on the surface or

683
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: to make you happy. And I do think when I

684
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Speaker 3: think about the things that make me better, it's how

685
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Speaker 3: do I connect who I am and who I've grown

686
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Speaker 3: up to be with where I want to go and

687
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Speaker 3: who I want to be. And one of the and

688
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Speaker 3: why I loved your examples, I think one of the

689
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Speaker 3: things that can be difficult is that there's not a

690
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Speaker 3: ton of representation and a lot of media right including

691
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Speaker 3: the books that we were reading on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's really helpful just as a more

693
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Speaker 3: generic piece of advice to connect the leadership and entrepreneurship

694
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Speaker 3: and just generally like advice books you read with your

695
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Speaker 3: own experience and then becoming because it's really good by

696
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Speaker 3: Michelle Obama, it's really good.

697
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Speaker 1: You already gave me one. Do you have anything else

698
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Speaker 1: you want to throw on to the book stack.

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Speaker 6: The other one that I would that I actually have

700
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Speaker 6: most actively gifted is Gratitude by Oliver Sacks, and he's

701
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Speaker 6: just he was the first author I remember really humanizing

702
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Speaker 6: psychology in a really powerful way. And Gratitude is a

703
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 6: book of four essays. It's very short, and he wrote

704
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Speaker 6: them in his last stages of life. And part of

705
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 6: why you become a founder is for legacy. You want

706
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Speaker 6: to do something great in the time that we have

707
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Speaker 6: on this planet. And he built such a meaningful legacy

708
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Speaker 6: that wasn't about ego, but was about serving and empathizing

709
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Speaker 6: with a very marginalized community of people that are experiencing

710
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Speaker 6: severe neurological and like other mental health conditions. And I

711
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Speaker 6: found Gratitude to be one of the most beautiful perspectives

712
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Speaker 6: on end of life that is so much more than

713
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Speaker 6: just end of life. It's really like, how do you

714
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Speaker 6: carry that perspective and level of gratitude and compassion with

715
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Speaker 6: you every single day? So you can read it in

716
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Speaker 6: like thirty minutes. He also wrote The Man Who misok

717
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Speaker 6: his wife for Hat, which is another great book I

718
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Speaker 6: highly recommend.

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Speaker 1: Something I love that Mara did for Adam just now

720
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Speaker 1: is that she told him that she really appreciated what

721
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Speaker 1: he had to share, and it made me think about

722
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Speaker 1: something that I've done in my roles as a manager.

723
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I obviously I work for myself now as an entrepreneur

724
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Speaker 1: and with the pod and with everything, but when I

725
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: was a manager in house at different publications, a skill

726
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: that I worked on a lot was telling my employees

727
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: when I really appreciated something they did, or recognizing when

728
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: they did something well, and really voicing that I had

729
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: concern and care and appreciation for everything that they did.

730
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Speaker 1: So what is a skill that as a leader you

731
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Speaker 1: have kind of honed in on or really fine tuned

732
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Speaker 1: as you've grown different teams.

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Speaker 3: That's deep.

734
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Speaker 4: I only go too.

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Speaker 3: I think feedback is a good example in that it

736
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: is there's always new levels of challenges over over the

737
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Speaker 3: years as you kind of go embark on your own journey.

738
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Speaker 3: I think for Naomi and I, uh, bridging the gap

739
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: between management and leadership, which can be two very different things.

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Speaker 3: It has been just something that we've been learning. So

741
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: as a really good manager at other jobs. Sometimes my

742
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: job was to protect people from the CEO. Like sometimes

743
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Speaker 3: my job was to like to like be like, my

744
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: job is to advocate for you, right, And that doesn't

745
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: mean that like CEOs are like bad or top down.

746
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Speaker 3: It just means that I felt like a shield. What

747
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Speaker 3: do you do when you're the CEO?

748
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Speaker 5: Right?

749
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Speaker 3: Like, So I think we're we're fifteen people now and

750
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: we just have such an incredible, incredible team. The team

751
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 3: is just so passion driven and everyone is there for

752
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: the right reasons that they have a bachelor. Everyone is

753
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: there for the company. And one way we think about

754
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: that is like when we hire as are you a

755
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: first principal thinker, meaning do you think more than anything

756
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: about the company's success? Then like I have the best

757
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: idea or I really want to make Mari Naomi happy,

758
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Speaker 3: But are you joining us as a partner somebody who's

759
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Speaker 3: really thinking about the first principle of the business, which

760
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Speaker 3: is what's best for our members? And that is really

761
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: beautiful And I think by nature of that, our team

762
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: can be really hard on themselves because they're there for

763
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: the right reasons and they're really passionate about the work

764
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Speaker 3: that they're doing, and they just care very deeply. So

765
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Speaker 3: not only can we have people that are hold themselves accountable,

766
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Speaker 3: but sometimes too accountable, and so in our role what

767
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: we find we always need to balance is of course,

768
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Speaker 3: like more than anything as a leader, it's the vision.

769
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Speaker 3: It's what are we building this for, what are we

770
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Speaker 3: going towards right? And that doesn't always equate to like

771
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: managing on a day to day basis, but that to

772
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Speaker 3: me is the most important thing we can do as

773
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Speaker 3: leaders of the company. And then on a day to

774
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Speaker 3: day basis, I think to your original question of what

775
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: are the things that we've got like worked on, is

776
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: the ability to give really specific feedback. So feedback style

777
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: we adopted from our previous organization is called SBI feedback.

778
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Speaker 3: SBI feedback stands for Situation Behavior Impact. The idea is

779
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Speaker 3: that you give SBI feedback on a ratio of seven

780
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Speaker 3: to one, so seven positive, one constructive, and that you're

781
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Speaker 3: being very specific. So yesterday in that meeting, when you

782
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Speaker 3: gave a presentation about our product roadmap, I thought you

783
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: were really concise and clear, and the impact was that

784
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: everybody walked away with a really great understanding of what

785
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Speaker 3: we're going to be doing and feels more motivated towards

786
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Speaker 3: our product own map, right, So it sounds really simple,

787
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Speaker 3: but being able to give that in person, to document

788
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: it publicly, we publicly praise, privately critique. All of those

789
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Speaker 3: values are a part of how we lead and we

790
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: set the vision for the organization, and we also make

791
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Speaker 3: sure we hold ourselves to that standard of seven to one.

792
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Speaker 3: We make sure that our team is really clear on

793
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Speaker 3: one of the things that we really love about how

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Speaker 3: you do your job and how can other people know

795
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Speaker 3: that so that you can keep doing what you're doing

796
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Speaker 3: and they can see that and look up to that.

797
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Speaker 3: And then we have one on ones and quarterly reviews

798
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Speaker 3: where we're using that time to give the feedback on

799
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Speaker 3: the things that we think our constructive feedback that you

800
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Speaker 3: can work on.

801
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Speaker 5: That's awesome. Are you available? Are you available to help

802
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Speaker 5: us out over here?

803
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's hard, and I think you know

804
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: that's not to say it's by any means like something

805
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: you know that happened overnight. And I think probably for

806
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Speaker 3: you all too, like one of the hardest things as

807
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Speaker 3: an entrepreneurs. You care so much, you care so deeply

808
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: about the team, and you're also so busy and so

809
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: figuring out like how to balance those things and how

810
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: to do that. I think for us, having that threshold

811
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Speaker 3: for feedback has been one way that's like really lightweight

812
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Speaker 3: for us to execute. That might mean that like, oh,

813
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Speaker 3: we missed that one on one yesterday, but we're gonna

814
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Speaker 3: reschedule for tomorrow, and you feel terrible in the moment,

815
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Speaker 3: but you're like, am I giving that person clear feedback often?

816
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Speaker 3: And if you say yes, then it feels like we're

817
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Speaker 3: we're hitting a bar at least we feel good about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was just going to say, we're.

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Speaker 8: My company's a very small company too, We have about

820
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Speaker 8: ten employees as well. And for for a challenge that

821
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 8: recently have come up for us is we kind of

822
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 8: treat everybody like family, and the sciens can get blurred

823
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Speaker 8: between responsibility and and family and and and creating boundaries.

824
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Speaker 8: And so that's been a challenge for me to like

825
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Speaker 8: because I want to just I'm a people pleaser and

826
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Speaker 8: I want everybody to love me, and firing somebody is

827
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Speaker 8: like it hurts me to fire people, but I have

828
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Speaker 8: to get better at that when it's just when it's

829
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Speaker 8: not appropriate for them to continue working with us. So

830
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Speaker 8: for me, I guess the challenge of being a leader

831
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Speaker 8: would be creating those boundaries and still, you know, making

832
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Speaker 8: a comfortable place to work, in a comfortable place where

833
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Speaker 8: everybody wants to come and feel part of and buy

834
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Speaker 8: into the to the mission, but to know that like

835
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Speaker 8: I can't be their friend.

836
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Speaker 5: I can be friendly with them, but I can't be

837
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Speaker 5: their friend.

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Speaker 1: What's something that you do to make your employees want

839
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Speaker 1: to keep coming back?

840
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Speaker 8: I mean, they get as much free coffee as they want,

841
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Speaker 8: uh throw at We do throw a good party.

842
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Speaker 5: But you know, we're pretty We're not a corporate We're

843
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Speaker 5: not very corporate.

844
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Speaker 8: We're very we have fun. It's hard because because our

845
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 8: people like working at our place, because it's I hate

846
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Speaker 8: to sound cheesy, but like it's a cool place to

847
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Speaker 8: work and people just like like the people that come

848
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 8: in and interacting with people, so like they're meeting really

849
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 8: fun people and cool people and smart people, and that

850
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Speaker 8: alone for them is worth it to them.

851
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Speaker 5: And me and my business partner are we.

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Speaker 8: Try to laugh a lot and like have fun and

853
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Speaker 8: just like make people feel like they're not necessarily at work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you can see that the all four

855
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: of you have built businesses that you're really passionate about

856
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: because you're all like nodding vigorously as Adam saying, everyone

857
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: that comes in that works with us as fun. I

858
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: think that's a really strong testament to what you're building,

859
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Speaker 1: all of you.

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Speaker 4: It's really special.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, fun is really really really important because otherwise what's

862
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 10: the point really, so to build off of what you

863
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 10: guys both said, Actually those are awesome things in terms

864
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Speaker 10: of like the framework and review process incredibly important and

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Speaker 10: I try to live by that as well. And then

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Speaker 10: the other thing actually on top of that that I

867
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Speaker 10: try to do is keep people really engaged in continuously

868
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Speaker 10: learning so that there's no like stagnation or like getting bored.

869
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Speaker 10: So just continue to like create situations. And you don't

870
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Speaker 10: have to really spend money to do this. I don't

871
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Speaker 10: think if a lot of you are entrepreneurs, I have

872
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 10: sometimes that's a little bit scary it was for us

873
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 10: at first. But creating and enriching situations where people can

874
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 10: learn things, so like having other founders come in and

875
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 10: do chats, or like making it like, you know, treating

876
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 10: people as individuals because they are all different. Like some

877
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 10: people in the office want to learn a language, they

878
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 10: leave a little bit early one day to go to

879
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Speaker 10: their own language class. So making sure that like you

880
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 10: are filling them with inspiration, but also like enough time

881
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Speaker 10: and thoughtfulness to like full be fulfilled in the rest

882
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 10: of their life as well, because you know, life is

883
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 10: like a lot more than just work. Although we're very

884
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 10: passionate about work, and I think about work most.

885
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 9: Of the time.

886
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 10: To be totally honest, I think one thing that I

887
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 10: would have that I've tried to try to spread, but

888
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 10: I would have also liked to have known earlier in

889
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 10: my career, like when we started, is that, like work

890
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 10: is one piece of the equation that's going to make

891
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 10: you happy. And making sure that like everybody on our

892
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 10: team kind of like understands and practices that is important

893
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 10: to us as well.

894
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: I love that It's it sounds to me like you're saying,

895
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: enable your employees to find other things that find them joy.

896
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I.

897
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Was doing a prompt in that fifty two list to

898
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: Happiness Journal. It's been it's like on every shelf at

899
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: Anthropology and every j cru and Urban outfitters and everything,

900
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: and so one of the prompts the book is write

901
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: down the things that bring you joy. And I sat

902
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: there for about ten minutes staring at this piece of paper,

903
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: thinking that it would be so easy to articulate everything

904
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: that makes me happy, but also struggled a little bit

905
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: with this idea that a lot of the things that

906
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: make me happy are actually what I am doing for

907
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: quote unquote work, which makes me also feel very fortunate

908
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: and very blessed and very lucky. So I pose the

909
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: question to all of you, as very integrated people in

910
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: your business, what is something outside of your business that

911
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: brings you true joy?

912
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: I can go I'm actually doing. I got just randomly.

913
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: My intention for this year was community, which meant being

914
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: more involved in my own community, being more involved in

915
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: like Brooklyn and just like the city council and all

916
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. And I randomly got for Secret

917
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: Santa fifty two lists to community, which I guess is

918
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: that same franchise. And I think, just generally, you know,

919
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: even when na, I mean, I think about, like I

920
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: don't know, on a daily basis, like how are we

921
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: sustaining ourselves? It really is helpful. And this is coming

922
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: from an introvert like somebody who really enjoys alone time

923
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 3: and being by myself. And I'm happy to over index

924
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: in that category anytime I find I found that, Like

925
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: through the couple two and a half years we've been

926
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: doing this, there are moments where I thought, like, oh,

927
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: it's about being alone. It's about just like I just

928
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: need to turn off and be by myself. And I would,

929
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: I would, I would go towards that direction more than

930
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: anything else. And I missed. I missed people like I

931
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: missed relationships. I missed my friends. You know, Nami and

932
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: I work together, but we're like real life friends and

933
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: we you know, we like we have this now like

934
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: ritual where every Friday we get to debrief and like

935
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: just to like brain dumb from the week and if

936
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: a lot of cocktails, old fashions and if we didn't

937
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: if we didn't do that, and when we don't do that,

938
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: you feel the impact. And I don't think that everyone

939
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: has to have a co founder necessarily or it has

940
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: to look like that, but I think in this, in

941
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: this journey, I think it's really important to have anyone

942
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: that you find to be someone that you trust and

943
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: you value their perspective and their opinion to be able

944
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: to get feedback to brain dump, to like and not

945
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: the friend you feel like you need to like get

946
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 3: dressed up to hang out with because we all know

947
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: there's like a different group of friends that you're like,

948
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: those are the people that, like, I love them, but

949
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: like I gotta be on my a game conversation wise,

950
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 3: like the friend that you can like be in sweats

951
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: and just be like, I'm just I'm fine right now.

952
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: I'm not having a good day or bad day. I'm

953
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: just fine. Let's watch Netflix or whatever. And I think

954
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: that you know that that could take a lot of

955
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: different forms, whether that's family, it could be your favorite podcast.

956
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: But I do think for me, it's been community, and

957
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: it's been having even just one or two people, including

958
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 3: my co founder, that I at least on a weekly basis,

959
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: get time with. And I just one last point on this.

960
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: I think, particularly as women, we get to this place

961
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: sometimes where we feel crazy, where we're like, am I crazy?

962
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: And that can be from like a tough meeting at work,

963
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: a tough conversation, a weird inner action with an investor,

964
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: a like product thing you thought of that maybe didn't

965
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: work out. And I know, personally, if I spend too

966
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: much time in my own like bubble, I'm like, it's

967
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: you you're crazy, right, And so I think I know

968
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: I've mentioned this a lot about like our intersectionality and

969
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: how it affects our experience, but I think it is

970
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: really important to remember that who we are in our

971
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: life experience colors all of this, and privilege colors all

972
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: of this, and I think we are obviously very privileged

973
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: to even have this opportunity, and there are different nuances

974
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: to our experiences that it just really really matters to

975
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: have a sounding board, to be able to validate and

976
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: give you feedback and just give you a place outside

977
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: of yourself to get some context.

978
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 4: Connections bring you joy? What brings you joy?

979
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 6: Similar to like what are the things outside of work

980
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 6: and community? The most immediate thing that came to mind

981
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 6: is I have a group of friends. Mostly it's at

982
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 6: least high school, but a lot of us grew up

983
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: like middle school, elementary school together. I know it's very

984
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 6: rare in terms of having friends like over that span

985
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 6: that whole period, and so I feel really lucky. And

986
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 6: twice a year we get together. We do Chrismaica in December,

987
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 6: and we do an annual girls trip every August where

988
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 6: we all pretend that we're fifteen years old, we get

989
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 6: kind of drunk and we dance and have a really

990
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 6: good time.

991
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 11: I wasn't yeah, yeah, no, I mean yeah, it's cool. No,

992
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 11: I mean it's it's evolved, it's evolved, and it sounds

993
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 11: really it sounds like, I mean, it's like friends.

994
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 7: But I think specifically, what always.

995
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 6: Has been really meaningful about our relationship and what we

996
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 6: like really kind of saw each other, you know, instantly connecting,

997
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 6: was this idea that entrepreneurship to me always felt very binary.

998
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 7: It's like that person is an entrepreneur.

999
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 6: That person is the person that is like all in,

1000
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 6: doesn't have anything else going on their life.

1001
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 7: The only way to be.

1002
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 6: An entrepreneur is to like live, like sleep, die, everything

1003
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 6: your company. And we all know that, Like there's a

1004
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 6: little bit of that that's true in terms of just

1005
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 6: the level of personal investment. Yes, But what I found

1006
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 6: really interesting and like cool and fascinating about Mara is

1007
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 6: she was so driven. She was so aspirational to me

1008
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 6: in terms of someone that I really admired and someone

1009
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 6: that I really wanted to be like professionally. And I

1010
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 6: called the sleepover test. It's like, who would you want

1011
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 6: to have a sleepover with? I want to have a

1012
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 6: sleepover with mar like we could just chill and watch

1013
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: Netflix and have fun. To your point of like those

1014
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 6: people that you can be off with, And I struggle

1015
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 6: to see that in entrepreneurship, and now that we're in it,

1016
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 6: and we're redefining this new person of what it means

1017
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 6: to be an entrepreneur, someone that is very passionate about

1018
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 6: their career and the company they're building, but can also

1019
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: take a step back and breathe and be in normal

1020
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 6: human beings. Sometimes the group of girls that I'm friends

1021
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 6: with when we're together, there is we don't ever talk

1022
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 6: about work. Half of them are like, what do you

1023
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 6: do Understand how you guys get fun?

1024
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 7: I don't understand it.

1025
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 6: And that's amazing because it's not about that. It's about

1026
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 6: a point of reference and a point of just kind

1027
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 6: of like.

1028
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 7: Pure joy that is so needed.

1029
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 6: And also totally rejects this idea that as you get

1030
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 6: older as as a woman, that the way that you

1031
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 6: fulfill that is in more kind of like traditional monogamous

1032
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 6: ways like we it's it's truly like these are the

1033
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 6: women that make me feel home. And I love my husband,

1034
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 6: and I love my child, and I love my girlfriends

1035
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 6: dress as much, Adam.

1036
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 5: I'm those are all great things.

1037
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 8: I mean, I love New York City, but I love

1038
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 8: to get out of New York City.

1039
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: Yes, New York City can.

1040
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm from Los Angeles and I love nature

1041
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 8: and I love being outdoors and I love to.

1042
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: Breathe real oxygen.

1043
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: And New York only has fake oxygen.

1044
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1045
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 8: Uh. And so if I can get away, even if

1046
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 8: it's just out like upstate or you know, out east,

1047
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 8: travel is very important to kind of reach oge large

1048
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 8: my batteries because living in New York City is exciting

1049
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 8: and it's great and there's no city like it, and

1050
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 8: you can hustle and you can get anything done. But

1051
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 8: I will burn out if I just continue to go

1052
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 8: by hard seven days a week. So just getting away

1053
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 8: and going, I mean, I love the beach.

1054
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 5: I love, I love. I sound like such a California dude.

1055
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 6: It's cool, but owning who you are Californias like just

1056
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 6: means healthy too.

1057
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 7: It's like it's a good thing.

1058
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: No, I know that sounds great, super stressed.

1059
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 5: So hopefully you know I just like to get away

1060
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 5: and to travel. I would say that for.

1061
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: Sure, Jesse, what brings you joy, aside from soundbaths.

1062
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, and jumps. It's obviously I like to play.

1063
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 10: I think that when we were first starting our company,

1064
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 10: something that we forgot to do that we didn't necessarily

1065
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 10: know that we were doing. It's sort of the trap

1066
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 10: that you were talking about, which was like twenty four

1067
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 10: to seven, it's all about work. It's all about the company.

1068
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 10: We need to get it like off the ground. We

1069
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 10: have to be the first people to market. And something

1070
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 10: that I had I was I think we were all

1071
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 10: missing a little bit, was just like remembering to be playful.

1072
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 9: And so I really enjoy playing with like my little brother.

1073
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 10: My youngest brother's eight, and he just makes me laugh

1074
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 10: man Like he posts the funniest videos online and when

1075
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 10: I'm with him, I'm like so so present and I

1076
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 10: act like a six year old. But I also try

1077
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 10: to bring that into the office sometimes, like you can

1078
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 10: get caught up thinking about the future and you're not

1079
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 10: necessarily always in the present minds you're planning for what's next,

1080
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 10: or who's going to get this done, or how are

1081
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 10: we going to like make all of our goals for

1082
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 10: twenty nineteen before the end of February, and having moments

1083
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 10: where you're allowing yourself to be present and like the

1084
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 10: rest of the office to be present.

1085
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 9: I think is really really important.

1086
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 10: And I do kind of the same thing where we

1087
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 10: take a couple times of year, me and my friends

1088
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 10: that I grew up with from elementary school, and none

1089
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 10: of them live in New York, but we'll go to

1090
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 10: a destination that does not have internet access or phone

1091
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 10: access and we'll just play, like hike, front around, cook

1092
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 10: like do normal things where we can be completely one

1093
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 10: hundred percent present, and that brings me complete joy.

1094
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy.

1095
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: The last place that I was in that didn't have

1096
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: internet or phone access, I went back to my high

1097
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: school to talk and they block it all of it.

1098
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Speaker 4: There's no phone service at the high school. There's no internet.

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Speaker 1: I was walking through the hall taking a video I

1100
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: was going to talk to a journalism class and one

1101
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: of the students walks by me and she says, without

1102
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: like me even having a chance to look at her,

1103
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: if you're going to try to post that on snapchat,

1104
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: it's not going to work here. I was like, oh, well,

1105
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Can you show me where mister

1106
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: Braxi's class is?

1107
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 5: Thank you?

1108
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: Okay, great joy? I love it. I love it.

1109
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're starting to wind down here, and a

1110
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: way that I typically like to wind down hurdle is

1111
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: by asking everyone on the show. And you've all had

1112
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: this opportunity with me, but maybe a new tidbit to

1113
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: offer everyone in the audience one of the best pieces

1114
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: of advice that you've been offered in your career, so

1115
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: you can come from anyone that's really impacted you and

1116
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: maybe your leadership style or how you carry yourself day

1117
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: to day.

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: I think one of the best pieces of advice I

1119
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: could give that I think we learned is to know

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: your power, and that comes into play in a lot

1121
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: of different scenarios. But I think particularly as entrepreneurs, you

1122
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: just feel really exposed, Like you feel like your heart's

1123
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: like out I hear this is what having children is like.

1124
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's like you feel like something

1125
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 3: that like the thing that you're putting all of this,

1126
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: like vulnerability and energy and your life. It feels like

1127
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: into is out there for people to judge and for

1128
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: people to critique and sometimes invest in or not invest in.

1129
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: And you know, Nami and I've raised three rounds of funny.

1130
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: Now we've gotten hundreds and hundreds of no's, And part

1131
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: of that is that in our example of venture capitalists,

1132
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: like their whole job is to say no to people.

1133
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: I mean mostly right, it's to find like that one

1134
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: needle in the haystack, but ninety nine percent of their

1135
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: meetings they have to say no to people is to

1136
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: judge people. And as entrepreneurs, your whole job is to

1137
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: put your heart on your sleeve and sell a huge,

1138
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: huge vision for what you want to accomplish in the world.

1139
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: And so that dynamic can lead to a power structure,

1140
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: particularly based on who you are, where you're from, what

1141
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: you look like, that feels like you don't have any power.

1142
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: But I think the thing that we learned, and this

1143
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 3: is through investors, this is through vendors, like our legal

1144
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: team agencies, is that it is because of who you

1145
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: are and what you have experienced, that you're uniquely positioned

1146
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: to do exactly what you're doing or what you're going

1147
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: to do. And remembering that and like really feeling that

1148
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: is the only way you'll be able to navigate whatever

1149
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: world you're entering into, and like trusting that gut. I

1150
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: think it's a common trope and it's not it's not you.

1151
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: It's the way that the system is set up. But

1152
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: in that we don't feel like we have power in

1153
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 3: moments where there are people who are well practiced and

1154
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: well trained in wielding that power. But you do have

1155
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: your own unique power, and that's exactly why you should

1156
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: be doing the thing that you're doing. And so get

1157
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: validation on your idea, get feedback, grow, be open to that.

1158
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: But don't forget that this whole system works because we

1159
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: come up with ideas, right, and we try and get

1160
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: funny for those ideas, or we grow those ideas on

1161
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 3: our own. But that's the only way that it works.

1162
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: So just know that power.

1163
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Speaker 1: Another goal for twenty nineteen speak as well as Mara

1164
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: in front of large groups of people.

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00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: I'm working on it.

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00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: It's a slow it's a slow test, slow burden, all right,

1167
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: someone else, give me some good advice here.

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 8: Kind of similar to what you were saying. Somebody told

1169
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 8: me this a long time ago, is to embrace being

1170
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Speaker 8: a beginner, like really really like relish the fact of

1171
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 8: being a beginner. Because when you're a beginner, first of all,

1172
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 8: you only have that one chance to be a beginner

1173
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 8: in whatever venture you're taught you're about to start.

1174
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 5: And.

1175
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Speaker 8: You're not going to have all the answers, but you're

1176
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 8: going to and you're gonna make mistakes and you're going

1177
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 8: to fail, like like your venture cabals are going to

1178
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 8: say no to you, and and you're you're going to

1179
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 8: make wrong decisions. But if if you if you realize

1180
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 8: that you're a beginner, you can pivot and you can

1181
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 8: make edits and you can.

1182
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 5: Make changes and.

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 8: You take your ego out of it and know that

1184
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 8: you don't have all the answers, but but you can

1185
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 8: ask people for help. Something that's like my ego has

1186
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 8: always prevented me from asking people in my prior life

1187
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 8: to ask people for help.

1188
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 5: And it's okay to not have all the answers. And

1189
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 5: we're not perfect.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying don't strive for perfection, but if you

1191
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 8: are constantly waiting for that perfect, perfect, perfect moment to

1192
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 8: make that to put that foot forward, you're never.

1193
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 5: Going to do anything.

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Speaker 8: So embrace the beginning of it. And I just seem

1195
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 8: there's something really beautiful in that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's also understanding that mistakes or failures don't

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00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: need to be viewed as mistakes and failures. They can

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00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: be viewed as lessons, and that's something that I've definitely

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Speaker 1: been working on throughout the past few years for sure.

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Speaker 4: Specifically advice, I think I.

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Speaker 9: Have a couple.

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 10: The first one is get comfortable being uncomfortable, because you'll

1203
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 10: spend a lot of time being uncomfortable being a beginner,

1204
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 10: getting said no to knowing that everything really you're going

1205
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 10: to encounter when you start a business is most likely

1206
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 10: for the first time, and being comfortable and that in

1207
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 10: that place where you're like a little bit unsure or

1208
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 10: you're thinking about it before bed, like, be cool with that.

1209
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 10: It's going to be fine. You'll get through it. Everything

1210
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 10: is temporary. And then the other thing that I found

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Speaker 10: to be actually really helpful in practice was less best

1212
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 10: nothing else. And when we were first starting, we wanted

1213
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 10: to do everything, like there's so much opportunity.

1214
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 9: As soon as you start to dig into your idea,

1215
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 9: you're like, WHOA, we.

1216
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 10: Could do this, and we could do that, and then

1217
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 10: we can have this whole club of people that are

1218
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 10: doing this, and then we could start with this other

1219
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 10: platform because it makes total sense. And we would get

1220
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 10: to points frequently where we'd be at a little bit

1221
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 10: of a stand still, because we're like, we can only

1222
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 10: do like a tiny fraction of each of those projects

1223
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 10: every single day. So making sure that we were I guess,

1224
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 10: making sure that we were all three comfortable with doing

1225
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 10: less and doing it better and giving each other the

1226
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 10: space and the time to make sure that we could

1227
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 10: do that was really really important. And although something is

1228
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 10: a great idea, I think obviously, as you pointed out before,

1229
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 10: like you can only do something once you start taking

1230
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 10: the first steps, and so I think that like calming down,

1231
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 10: making sure that you're comfortable doing a little bit less

1232
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 10: is really really key, and then just taking those first

1233
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 10: few steps and knowing that you're not going to do

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01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 10: everything right away it's okay.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: And again, there's so much beauty and being a beginner

1237
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: and starting and it can feel really intimidating, but know

1238
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: that everyone, at some point in their life, in so

1239
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: many different instances, is a beginner, and and you're definitely

1240
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: not alone in doing that.

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Speaker 6: Naomi, uh say, something that I struggle with the most

1242
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 6: that is still still like very much a work in

1243
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 6: progress is I was not prepared for the level of

1244
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 6: insecurity that happens when you do something big, when you

1245
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 6: actually like take the risk. You try something totally new,

1246
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 6: you're completely exposed, you're you're an amateur at it, and

1247
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 6: that you know, it feels really obvious. But I really

1248
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 6: struggle to figure out who I was as a co CEO,

1249
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 6: as a founder.

1250
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Speaker 7: A lot of where I had.

1251
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 6: Just really like gained my confidence and like sense of

1252
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 6: self was from being the the like very collaborative, approachable person,

1253
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 6: and that sometimes works as a co CEO, and sometimes

1254
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 6: that doesn't work. Sometimes you have to be much more direct,

1255
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 6: you have to be more firm, you have to have

1256
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 6: more conviction. And it took me a while to unravel

1257
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 6: what that meant. It was like a lot of self exploration.

1258
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 6: And I wish someone had told me that. Of course,

1259
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 6: like when you feel absolute conviction and you're kind of

1260
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 6: coming off this high of taking this huge leap and

1261
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 6: you've gotten some level of validation to take that leap,

1262
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 6: Otherwise you wouldn't be there. There's going to be a

1263
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 6: huge cliff, there's going to be a dip, at least

1264
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 6: for me, in that it's not where you'll stay. But

1265
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 6: what it is is a completely new experience that's building

1266
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 6: to something bigger than you could have ever imagined. I've

1267
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 6: learned more in the last two and a half years

1268
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 6: at Shine as a co founder than I learned in

1269
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 6: all of my you know, twelve years of experience professionally.

1270
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 6: And it was such a like self exposition that I

1271
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 6: just wasn't prepared for it, quite honestly, And it's helped

1272
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 6: me to realize that it's a progress and a process

1273
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: and all that stuff, but to be self compassionate around

1274
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 6: like that uncomfortable, like weird, am.

1275
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 7: I doing this right?

1276
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 6: Feeling is coming from doing something totally new, and I

1277
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 6: just wish I had given myself more space to tell

1278
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 6: myself that at the beginning. Now it's like it's just

1279
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 6: it's just part of it. But at the beginning, it

1280
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 6: felt like I was doing it wrong or I wasn't

1281
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 6: wasn't tough enough.

1282
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Speaker 1: The cool down, as I'll call this question, the last

1283
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: tidbit from all of you. We talked a lot tonight

1284
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: about goals for the new year. I feel like everyone's

1285
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: talking about those until at least February, when you have

1286
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: to have them all done. So the last question I'll

1287
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: ask you guys today, what's a what's a goal you have?

1288
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: Hurdle talks a lot about health and wellness.

1289
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: What's a goal or thought you have on how you

1290
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: can be a little bit healthier. I think a little

1291
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: bit more wellness throughout twenty nineteen.

1292
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 6: For me, So I, yeah, I just had a baby.

1293
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 6: She's two and a half months old. She's awesome, and

1294
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 6: you know there was there is a reality to being

1295
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 6: a founder and attorney leave and what does that look like?

1296
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 6: And something that I decided early on that is still

1297
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 6: working on it is that one, I'm doing a great job.

1298
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 6: I just have to tell myself every single day that

1299
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 6: I'm doing a great job or it will just like

1300
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 6: both sides lose, right, the company loses and like she loses.

1301
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 6: The second thing is that quality over quantity. I'm not

1302
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 6: with her twenty four to seven, but when I'm with her,

1303
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 6: I try to put my phone down, look her in

1304
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 6: the eye, and be as present as possible with this

1305
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 6: like new bundle of joy. And three trying to remember

1306
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 6: the lessons that I picked up in pregnancy, which was

1307
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 6: I was so much kinder to myself when I was

1308
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 6: pregnant than I ever was before, and it should not

1309
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: take becoming pregnant to talk to myself that way and

1310
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 6: to set more boundaries and to just be more self compassionate.

1311
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 6: I should be that way anyways, And so how am

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Speaker 6: I carrying that with me.

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Speaker 7: Forever?

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Speaker 6: Not just because I was pregnant. I should just do,

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Speaker 6: I should just do all the time. So she's helped

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Speaker 6: me a lot, and yeah, just being being present with

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Speaker 6: her and being kind to myself about this new journey

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Speaker 6: that I'm on as a as a new.

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Speaker 4: Mom wellness goals twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a great job. I think. For me, it's

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Speaker 3: so I don't know if it's a secret, but I

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Speaker 3: love control. I really enjoyed controlling things. So when I

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Speaker 3: sat like a New Year's resolution or an intention, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is how I'm gonna do it. And to your point,

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Speaker 3: like eighty percent of New Year's resolutions fall off by

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Speaker 3: mid February, and just generally, I think control is a

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Speaker 3: double edged sword. I've read something really beautiful recently about

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Speaker 3: intention setting in that it's an Eastern practice just around

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Speaker 3: this idea of when we set intentions, we often try

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Speaker 3: to then control those intentions and play around what does

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Speaker 3: it look like? But intention really means just reception like openness. Right,

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Speaker 3: So if my intention is community this year, or if

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we want to ship a certain

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Speaker 3: product or raise a certain amount of funding, just being

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Speaker 3: open to receiving that and letting things happen. So my

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Speaker 3: goal is to trust the process and trust the process

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Speaker 3: before to me sounded like lazy. I don't know, it

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Speaker 3: sounded like but but I can't trust it. I got

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Speaker 3: to take care of it. Who if I don't handle it,

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Speaker 3: who's going to handle it? And I think that that

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Speaker 3: is certainly, you know, there's some there's a place that

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Speaker 3: that comes from that has has propelled me to where

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Speaker 3: I am, and that I really enjoy handling things and

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Speaker 3: that's great and also good things. I believe that good

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Speaker 3: things happen because there is a level of openness to

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Speaker 3: those things and they come to you in a way.

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Speaker 3: And I think we can get in our own way

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Speaker 3: by trying to make it come to us in the

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Speaker 3: way that we think it should and to overplan and

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Speaker 3: like prioritize and process. And so it's very difficult for me.

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Speaker 3: And not that I'm like very organized, it's just that

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Speaker 3: I'm very I like to control things. So I think

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Speaker 3: I think trusting the process this year, well, just to

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Speaker 3: your point, Jesse, just really help me enjoy it a

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Speaker 3: lot more versus feeling like it's Friday night at nine pm.

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Speaker 3: I just went to the Alamo. My partner and I

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Speaker 3: get home and I'm like, ah, I didn't send that

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Speaker 3: email and I didn't do that thing, Like is that

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Speaker 3: going to cause you know, X y Z thing to happen?

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Speaker 3: And I think when you can, when you can like

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Speaker 3: allow yourself to just be open and like truly trust

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Speaker 3: the process, it doesn't feel like every little thing needs

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Speaker 3: to be controlled and that you know, you'll get to

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Speaker 3: it goals.

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Speaker 8: I think what I'm really striving for is to have

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Speaker 8: real deep human connection, not just the kind that I

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Speaker 8: can tend to have, which is like, hey, what's.

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Speaker 5: Up, how are you you?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Cool? Nice? Why yeah?

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Speaker 8: And then just kind of one minute conversation and on

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Speaker 8: and onto the next because I I can tend to.

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Speaker 5: I can.

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Speaker 8: If I'm being honest, I tend to be very superficial

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Speaker 8: at times with conversation and I don't like that.

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Speaker 5: And I and I want to really challenge.

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Speaker 8: Myself to to to have like a like a real

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Speaker 8: human interaction with people and and slow down and really

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Speaker 8: like the city is like you can there's a million

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Speaker 8: things going on at once, and you can you can

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Speaker 8: get kind of caught up in that, and I feel

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Speaker 8: like it's okay to slow down and kind.

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Speaker 5: Of just just.

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Speaker 8: Just take some time with with a friend, a family member,

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Speaker 8: or like a stranger and just meet somebody and just

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Speaker 8: really like have a conversation.

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Speaker 4: Life goes pretty fast sometimes, you know.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Jesse, I think that mine would be it's pay

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Speaker 10: us attention to what you look like and more attention

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Speaker 10: to how you feel. As a fitness junkie I would

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Speaker 10: call myself, I think I've been naturally kind of always

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Speaker 10: driven slightly by like the way that my body looks.

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Speaker 10: And I think, as much as I would like to

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Speaker 10: say that that is not part of what drives me

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Speaker 10: to work out and be healthy, it is. And actually

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Speaker 10: one thing that I learned from someone in the office

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Speaker 10: really wise is not actually here is to really like

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Speaker 10: turn inward, focus on how I feel and kind of

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Speaker 10: do what I think is right. That's not to say

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Speaker 10: I'm not gonna I'm not going to stop working out

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Speaker 10: and being active and healthy, but being driven by like

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Speaker 10: internally kind of what's going on is something that I

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Speaker 10: would like to do this year.

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Speaker 1: I love that I'm all about that. I I'll just

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Speaker 1: chime in quickly about mine. I sat down with Ryan Flaherty.

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Speaker 1: He is the senior director of Performance at Nike at

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Speaker 1: their headquarters, and he said something to me that really

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Speaker 1: resonated for this year, which is to be where your

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: feed are. I think it's so easy in our world

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Speaker 1: of social media and connection and multitasking and building and

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Speaker 1: everything that we're all doing all the time to not

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Speaker 1: be fully present. So to touch on your point about

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Speaker 1: just being where your feed are, listening, developing those genuine connections,

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Speaker 1: and just knowing that where you are right now is

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: exactly where you need to.

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Speaker 4: Be and really to trust that. So that's what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Trying to do more of in twenty nineteen. Let's give

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Speaker 1: it up for these guys. How awesome are they? Right again?

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to WeWork Labs for having us here.

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Speaker 1: If you don't already, follow Hurdle on Instagram at Hurdle Podcast,

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Speaker 1: also subscribe to Hurdle in the iTunes store.

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Speaker 4: I would really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to take your phones out right now and

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Speaker 1: take lots of photos and tag Hurdle and all of

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Speaker 1: these lovely people, and also share it with a friend.

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Speaker 4: It means a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: Started Hurdle about a year ago and it's a huge

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Speaker 1: passion project and something that I've had so much fun

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Speaker 1: meeting some.

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Speaker 4: Of you here in the audience and continue.

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Speaker 1: To travel the globe literally and meet awesome humans. So

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Speaker 1: where can they find all of you on social media?

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Speaker 1: Where they can they find your businesses? Give them the lowdown,

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Speaker 1: give them the deats.

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Speaker 3: If you feel like life's tough and you need a

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Speaker 3: pep talk on a daily basis, Shine will be your

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Speaker 3: daily pep talk. How does I feel we're trying that out?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: That marketing lingue on me.

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Speaker 3: You're like looking at a video concept. Shine is your daily.

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Speaker 4: I got this.

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Speaker 3: It's your daily. I got this. That's right. So but

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Speaker 3: in all seriousness, I think everything we talked about today

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: is incredibly relative to what we're doing at Shine, and

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 3: we're helping you practice self compassion on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: So if you go to the app story and download Shine,

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Speaker 3: we'll send you a free daily text message that'll help

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Speaker 3: you check in with yourself. There's two research backed articles

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Speaker 3: that are brand new every day in that messaging experience,

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Speaker 3: and then you get access to our audio library.

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Speaker 1: Of Pep Talks and it's at Shine Text on Instagram, right,

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Speaker 1: got you, Adam.

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Speaker 8: You can find us on Instagram, Twitter, all of social

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Speaker 8: tags at Jane Motorcycles jn E Motorcycles. I'm Adam Underscore

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Speaker 8: Jane Moto and you can also find us at our

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Speaker 8: brick and mortar store in Williamsburg. We'd love to have

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Speaker 8: all you there and hope to see you guys.

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Speaker 9: Jesse at Dagni Dover d A g n E d

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Speaker 9: O V E R.

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Speaker 10: And we also have a pop up open right now

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Speaker 10: actually at four nineteen Broom if you want to stop in.

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Speaker 4: I am at Emily a bodie.

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Speaker 1: Also make sure if you have a hurdle moment that

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Speaker 1: you want to share with me, feel free to email me.

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Speaker 1: It's just Emily at hurdle dot us. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: Another hurdle conquered. Thanks guys, es