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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Buck back together, Buck?

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Man? Not too much? DJ. You know it's funny. Free

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Speaker 2: agent frenzy is great, but what it also is is

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Speaker 2: the good thing is you and I haven't worked in

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Speaker 2: Like what you can't get in the draft, you're getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think there's you know, there's this

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot left to do. But I

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Speaker 2: They paid Miles Garrett, they give him forty million, like

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Speaker 1: Somebody posted somebody posted the Ted dbiasse uh a little

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Speaker 2: And it'll open up. But you're right, they have a

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Speaker 2: that is what this move may signal, the type of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it'll be interesting to see what happens with

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Speaker 2: You also want to establish the running game with Tony Potler,

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Speaker 2: they have set the table for the offense to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get to swing for defense. They've got to

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Speaker 2: if they decide Dave, Ball and Shane decide that he

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you the trade. You tell

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Speaker 1: the trade, Tell me if you'd do it, if you're

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Speaker 2: So two it's two two swap.

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Speaker 1: You're swapping one in three and you're giving up a

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Speaker 2: Okay, can I get it? I feel like I got

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Speaker 2: we got the ten percent. Did you say you didn't

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Speaker 1: Me an extra fourth or fourth round, packe, give me

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Speaker 2: See fifty percent. I feel like I'm winning. But now

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: You know what this does, though, Buck? You know what

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Speaker 1: That gives you a free pot.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if Jackson Dart's going to

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Speaker 2: You may not know this. I know we've been doing

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Speaker 2: is Right is one of my favorite game shows. And

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Speaker 2: basically what you did is we just did the showcase showdown.

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Speaker 2: And so what you did is say you can have eight.

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Speaker 2: We can have this one over here, can you know it?

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Speaker 2: Or if you wait, yeah, you can take the next thing.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's let's let's tell that story.

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Speaker 1: Because now if we're in the draft room, Buck, it's

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Speaker 2: Like that's and we've talked about it, but it is

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Speaker 2: one would you want? Do you want what's behind door

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Speaker 1: Let me pull up these names here real quick. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I think I've got it on my I've got it

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Speaker 1: trades that have been done historically up there, Buck, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah that what you did right there makes me kind

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do it, And maybe we're manufacturing

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you know what's telling you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because let's be honest, and we do this segment

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Speaker 2: in particular, you dealing with wizards, dealing with Mahomes and

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Speaker 2: Allen and Jackson and Burrow and others. The talent must

434
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Speaker 2: equate to where we're talking about taking these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's very interesting. How about Chicago Buck

436
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: five and twelve, last place? NFC North aggressive in trying

437
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Speaker 1: to fix the offensive line with Joe Touney, Jonah Jackson,

438
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Speaker 1: Drew Dollmann. They go on the defensive line, Ode Agbo,

439
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Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett. So it felt like, as I said, with

440
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Speaker 1: some of these other teams, you know, maybe they didn't

441
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Speaker 1: do it right last year. You always want to go

442
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Speaker 1: to the hardware store before you go to the toy store,

443
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Speaker 1: and this was maybe a little bit too much time

444
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Speaker 1: spend a KB toys or Toys r Us. I think

445
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Speaker 1: both out of business currently. But they went to Dixie line.

446
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: They went to the hardware store this year.

447
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Speaker 2: So look, I like that line. That's a good one.

448
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 2: You might need to use that one on TV. You

449
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Speaker 2: might need to if you've used that one before. I

450
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Speaker 2: think I had. I might think I had that might

451
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Speaker 2: that might be like toy store hardware store. I think

452
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Speaker 2: we can get that. Because you talk about the nuts

453
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: and bolts of your team being in the trenches, and

454
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: when you're talking about offensive line and making sure you

455
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Speaker 2: can control the trenches and dominated the point of attack

456
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Speaker 2: and have the option or luxury to run and pass

457
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Speaker 2: when you want to do either one. Well, that is essential.

458
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Speaker 2: The toys on the outside like, they're great, but man,

459
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: if you can't put yourself in a position where you

460
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Speaker 2: can impose, you will or dictate the terms to the defense,

461
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: you never get an opportunity to really utilize and maximize

462
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: those toys on the perimeter. The Bears learned it lessen

463
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Speaker 2: the hard way last year. They're making amends for it,

464
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Speaker 2: trying to help Caleb Williams get right. And Ben Johnson

465
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: had a lot of success in Detroit with maybe the

466
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Speaker 2: top or the second best oppensive line in football at

467
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Speaker 2: his disposal. He understands that that sit the foundation for

468
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Speaker 2: the Lions to do all the fun stuff. He's taken

469
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Speaker 2: the intel and trying to put it in practice in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's I think it's the right way to

471
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Speaker 1: go about doing things. I also think Ashton genty, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: that opens up the conversation for him in the draft

473
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Speaker 1: at that point in time too. And you've got a

474
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Speaker 1: pretty good run blocking offensive line now, and now you've

475
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Speaker 1: got a chance with some young triplets there, with the

476
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Speaker 1: Doomes they going into year two, with Caleb going into

477
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Speaker 1: year two, and then have Ashton genty back, there would

478
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Speaker 1: be fun, would be in fun offense to have in place.

479
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: They could also, you know, they could upgrade a left

480
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Speaker 1: tackle too, whether that's membu or or Will Campbell.

481
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Speaker 2: That option still is out there.

482
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Speaker 1: New Orleans five and twelve, Carolina five and twelve, So

483
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Speaker 1: they both tied for the worst record in that division.

484
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Speaker 1: Why don't we start with Carolina. This is a team

485
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Speaker 1: that swung big, tried to get Milton Williams, weren't able

486
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Speaker 1: to get him in the boat, but got Trevor Merrick

487
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: is a really, really good player. We talked about him,

488
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Speaker 1: Treville Wart. They've got Patrick Jones, Rico Daddle, the running

489
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Speaker 1: back Brown, the detackle, Bobby Brown. So made some moves

490
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Speaker 1: there for a team that again needed help all over

491
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Speaker 1: the place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they need help everywhere. And it's

493
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Speaker 2: one of those things like you see the improvement, you

494
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Speaker 2: see some of the ground that they were able to

495
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Speaker 2: close on the division rivals. But I'm just thinking, like man,

496
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: at some point like with the young quarterback, Like, what

497
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Speaker 2: are we gonna get him to help them? I know

498
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Speaker 2: we're banking on some of the picks from last year

499
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: in those things, but you still like to see a

500
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: little more sizzle. It's a good team, but can they

501
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: I feel like the teams in the division got much better.

502
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Speaker 2: I don't know how they. I feel like they're still chasing. Yeah.

503
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Again, this is a team last year was twenty ninth

504
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: and yards per game on offense, thirty second in points

505
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: per game on defense, thirty second in total yards per game,

506
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Speaker 1: thirty second, rushing yards per game, twenty ninth, and sacks

507
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Speaker 1: thirty second pressure rate. Like defensively, as many holes as

508
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Speaker 1: they have on offense, you'd like to help the quarterback.

509
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: They stink on defense, so they try to take some

510
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: swings there. I think Merrick and Wharton are solid players. Yeah,

511
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Speaker 1: but I still think they need a premier edge player

512
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Speaker 1: and then on the offensive side, just you know, more

513
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Speaker 1: firepower there to help your quarterback would be nice. We'll

514
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Speaker 1: see what happens in the draft. That other team in

515
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Speaker 1: the division we mentioned, the Saints, not much there, justin

516
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Speaker 1: Reid Isaac Geidam. They re signed some guys but Paulson

517
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: adebo leaving was a was a big loss for them.

518
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: Kind of a tough team to peg man, you know, DJ.

519
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: This is one where I believe to say it's a

520
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: banking on coaching improving the team more so than personnel

521
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: improving the team. That there's a sense maybe internally that

522
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore Brandon Staley will find a way to put

523
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: together the right X and os to have this team

524
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Speaker 2: improve as opposed to a we're gonna revamp the roster

525
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: and do those things. And I know they're hamstrong. There's

526
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Speaker 2: some calorie salary cap issue. They just keep pushing it.

527
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Speaker 1: They don't ever take their medicine. Man, they just keep

528
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Speaker 1: pushing it.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But but I mean it's it's an older team,

530
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Speaker 2: and I don't know, man, like at some point you

531
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: do have to wash it out. It certainly doesn't help that, man.

532
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Speaker 2: Some of your players, like Peyton Turner never really gave

533
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Speaker 2: them anything when they took them, Like you just you

534
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta nail some of these these pigs to

535
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Speaker 2: be able to kind of rebuild and retool on the fly,

536
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Speaker 2: and they hadn't been able to do that consistently. Yeah,

537
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Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

538
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Speaker 1: I thought first year head coach, I thought this would

539
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Speaker 1: be the year to take the medicine, like, and we've

540
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Speaker 1: got quarterbacks coming over the next couple of years, Like

541
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Speaker 1: just take your medicine now. I don't want to say

542
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Speaker 1: run to the bottom tank. Whatever you want to. You know,

543
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: everybody gets upset when you use those words, but they

544
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: were they were kind of this was the time, like

545
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Speaker 1: you want to you don't want to do this year

546
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Speaker 1: two or year three of your new head coach, Like

547
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Speaker 1: do it right now. That's what I didn't understand.

548
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like it's easier to just go ahead

549
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: and pull the plug on everything the first year you

550
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Speaker 3: come in and re establish the culture and do it

551
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Speaker 3: all as opposed to trying to make the jump, particularly

552
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Speaker 3: when you look at their team in older roster.

553
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Speaker 2: But maybe you know, killing Moore got into assess the

554
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Speaker 2: situations like no, no, no, we're just a tweak. We

555
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: don't need to We're just a retool, not a rebuild,

556
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: away from being a contender. We'll see who's right at

557
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Speaker 2: the end of the year.

558
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Speaker 1: Ye all right, this is still weird to say San

559
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Speaker 1: Francisco last place team in the NFC West Buck six

560
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: and eleven. And this is a team where the losses

561
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: are much greater than the additions. DeMarcus Robinson receiver was added. Uh,

562
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: they had a grant safety. But dude, this is a

563
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: team that just I mean, Deebo's gone Green, Law's gone

564
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: hard Grave Ufunga, Travarious Ward, Jalen Moore, the tackle got

565
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: big money, They let go of use Check Floyd got cut, massive,

566
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Speaker 1: massive departures and uh, and not much in the way

567
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Speaker 1: of incoming here, buck is this is this team finishing.

568
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Speaker 1: I don't see how they're not going to finish in

569
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Speaker 1: last place again next year. You see any other way

570
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: they get ahead of these other teams in the division.

571
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say it has little to do with

572
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: the personnel and more to do with the energy within

573
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Speaker 2: the locker room in the building. Uh. It seemed like

574
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: last year from the outside looking in at this team

575
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: was fractured coming off of that Super Bowl. You saw

576
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel act out publicly on the sideline with teammates.

577
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: You saw Brendan iyukev issues one trying to get the contract.

578
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Then when he did agree to a contract, he comes

579
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: in and kind of gets into some things where he

580
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: wasn't in the right frame of mind. It didn't appear

581
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: too fully kind of buy in or play up or

582
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: live up to the standards that they've created, and you

583
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: have some other little issues that kind of rear this

584
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: ugly head throughout the course of a very very difficult season.

585
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 2: To me, this is a perfect time for the Niners

586
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: to reset. And the reset isn't necessarily like roster rebuilding

587
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: or tooling, but it's getting back to keeping the main thing,

588
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: the main thing. The Niners are at their best when

589
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: they play complimentary ball, and there's a certain vibe that

590
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: you have with the team. They got to get that

591
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: vibe back. They are kind of like the bullies on

592
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: the block. They play a certain way that makes others

593
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: wilt over time. They need to make sure that they're

594
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: bringing in the people, the personnel that believe in that

595
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: blue collar style and work towards doing that. As they're

596
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: it contemplating how to pay the quarterback because it seems

597
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be a little contentious negotiation now that

598
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: we're coming off a disappointing year the team. How much

599
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: money are we willing to pay rock pretty as QB one.

600
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Speaker 1: I mean, this doesn't This feel a lot like and

601
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: I would say, an imitation of the Rams. You know,

602
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: like the Rams just kind of retooled everything and they

603
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: hit on draft picks like nobody's business. Over a couple

604
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: of years and all of a sudden, you look up,

605
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: this defense is totally different than it was a couple

606
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: of years ago. They're all young, they're all hungry, they're

607
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: all fast. To me, it feels like San Francisco saw

608
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: that within the division, saw a team that had been

609
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, not only had been in, but it actually

610
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, and then they totally revamped everything.

611
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: It feels like they're trying to do similarly with some

612
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: obviously some stars still in place there when you still

613
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: have Fred Warner and Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle, like

614
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: you still got some big time stars there. But obviously

615
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Trent Williams best left tackle in the NFL, so they

616
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: still have those core stars. And you know, I use

617
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: this analogy another show talking about the Philadelphia Eagles that

618
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: there's almost kind of an NBA affication of how many

619
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: these organizations the Eagles have said, we're gonna invest and

620
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: pay these cores. We're gonna identify the five right, the

621
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Speaker 1: five to seven guys, we're gonna pay them, but then

622
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Speaker 1: we are going to let other guys walk. We're gonna

623
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Speaker 1: get compicts, and we're gonna draft our butts off and

624
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: hit on young cheap players to fill in around those

625
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: five to seven expensive guys.

626
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought in to the Philippie Eagles. I

627
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: know Howie Roseman is a friend of the show and

628
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: a close friend of yours. I hate to do shameless

629
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Speaker 2: pugs for other podcasts, but I heard Howie Roseman's conversation

630
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: with Todd mcshae on The Todd McShay Show DJ. It

631
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Speaker 2: was enlightening. I do understand why you guys are close because,

632
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: like he dropped some gems in there about team building.

633
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: But one of the things that has come out not

634
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: just on that podcast but of late he talked about

635
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: learning the lessons from when the Eagles dealt with the

636
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and the success like years ago, and the

637
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: mistakes that they made when they went a couple of

638
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: years ago where they got sentimental and nostalgic and kept

639
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: a lot of players that we're kind of fringe, I

640
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: don't know, and this year were swift and decisive, like

641
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: they won it, but it was almost as if they

642
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: acted like they didn't win it. They made very true

643
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: decisions for the Niners. That also comes into play no

644
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: matter what happens the previous year, no matter how far

645
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: we go, when we're thinking about next year, next year

646
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: is an independent decision that doesn't have to carry over

647
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Speaker 2: from the previous season. If they get back to that

648
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Speaker 2: and stick to that premise, it gives them a chance

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Speaker 2: to build the team that they need for what they

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Speaker 2: have ahead going forward.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think the smart organizations are operating

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Speaker 1: this way. I mean, we've just talked about the Rams

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles. I don't know who has a better

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Speaker 1: reputation than those two organizations for being forward thinking and

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Speaker 1: being smart. And I think holding on and trying to

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Speaker 1: do the reunion tour, so to speak, Ah, it's not.

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Speaker 2: A good track record to that. Buck like you got it.

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Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to watch a lot of good

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Speaker 1: familiar names have been really good players and productive for

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Speaker 1: you walk out the building. But if you trust your process,

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Speaker 1: it's a very famous word phrase in sports. If you

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Speaker 1: just trust it, that's the way you operate.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You let those out and guess what I'm gonna bring

665
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Speaker 1: in a bunch of other new young guys and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get new stars. They're going to merge out of

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Speaker 1: this pile.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean it's one of those things where

669
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Speaker 2: the new stars are going to emerge out the pile.

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Speaker 2: You have to be confident and the way that you

671
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Speaker 2: go about doing business, your scouting department, you're coaching in

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Speaker 2: terms of how they develop players. We can talk about

673
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Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Rams kind of be in the

674
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Speaker 2: North Star for being able to kind of rebuild and

675
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Speaker 2: flip it on the fly, but let's also understand why

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Speaker 2: it works for both of those teams. They get the

677
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Speaker 2: right people. Like we can talk about how the talent

678
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Speaker 2: is or whatever, but when you look at the profile

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Speaker 2: of the players that they select and the players that

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Speaker 2: they bring in their cultural fits, that's why it works.

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Speaker 2: The chemistry and continuity is underrated. It's the X factor,

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Speaker 2: the secret sauce that no one can really quantify. But

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Speaker 2: that's why those teams get it. And it's really important

684
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Speaker 2: that as a team builder, you know exactly what type

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Speaker 2: of team you want to have and what kind of

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Speaker 2: guys fit the pro file.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, I think all that stuff ends up working

688
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Speaker 1: together to build the best team, not to have the

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Speaker 1: most talent. Those are two different things. This is a

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Speaker 1: fun and buck, I just kind of wanted to focus

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Speaker 1: on those bottom teams there and what they've accomplished here

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Speaker 1: in free agency. We're heading out to Dallas. When are

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Speaker 1: you getting out there?

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Speaker 2: By the way? Tuesday? Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be together and yeah, a little big

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Speaker 1: twelve pro days. We'll be out there for a few days.

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Speaker 2: We'll do a show.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll do a show together while we're out

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Speaker 1: there as well, and kind of keep up with everything.

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Speaker 1: As some of these free agency deals. Maybe Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: will decide where he wants to play.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, why do we do draft weekend?

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Speaker 2: If you you know what, I'm just gonna wait to

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Speaker 2: draft weekend to make a decision on where I want

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Speaker 2: to play. Just keep all of us in suspense waiting

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Speaker 2: on what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: You know, man, interesting times, my friend, All right, stay drive,

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Speaker 1: it's raining outside in California and happen very often. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys hanging with us. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Right here on, move the sticks, moist sis