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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast George nor you with you this Christmas night,

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Speaker 1: It's getting in the morning, the wee hours, it's Christmas

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Speaker 1: past and many times zones Now. Karen Anderson back with us.

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Speaker 1: A professional animal communicator psychic medium from the Eastern Washington area.

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Speaker 1: She discovered that she had psychic abilities and could talk

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Speaker 1: to the animals at a very young age. Karen surrounded

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Speaker 1: herself with many beloved and moles. Over the years, learned

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Speaker 1: how to understand their thoughts and feelings. Now, as her

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Speaker 1: career path took her into the rocky mountains of Colorado,

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Speaker 1: Karen realized that her psychic skills enabled her to read

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Speaker 1: the energy of suspects and criminals that she dealt with

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Speaker 1: while she was a deputy sheriff and Bailey, Colorado. A

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Speaker 1: couple of her latest works include The Amazing Afterlife of

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Speaker 1: Animals and of Course Hear All the Creatures. Karen, Merry

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Speaker 1: Christmas to you. How was your day I had, George,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you? Is pretty good? So far? Pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. Well so far, it's going to get

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Speaker 1: even better by the time this interviews on and off tonight,

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Speaker 1: I hope. So I'm ready. So tell me a little

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Speaker 1: bit about your work as a deputy deputy sheriff. That's amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that's where it all started to come back to me.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I could understand the animals when I was

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Speaker 1: deputy that I had to start to rely on my

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Speaker 1: intuitive abilities. And if you know any cops out there,

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Speaker 1: instinct about things, and uh, they call it a gut instinct.

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Speaker 1: They won't call it their intuition, but it's pretty much

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Speaker 1: the same thing. And I had to rely on my

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Speaker 1: and I had to really pay attention to the energy

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Speaker 1: I started to read body language and the energy. And

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Speaker 1: for instance, if you've ever walked into a room after

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Speaker 1: and information started to come through to me. And that's

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Speaker 1: what actually happened before I got there. That is traumatic

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Speaker 1: all by itself. Well, we're going to talk about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that deal with the amazing afterlife of

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Speaker 1: animal scaring, because truly, many of us who have owned

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Speaker 1: They become family, don't they They do, and they are

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you are too, George, Oh yeah, absolutely. And

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Speaker 1: I used to call him mau Maw. Well, he loved

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Speaker 1: it was so much love. So they like that because

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Speaker 1: so much the name, but it's everything that goes behind it,

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Speaker 1: qued into the tone of voice. When you were working

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Speaker 1: what did your colleagues think? I didn't tell them. I

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Speaker 1: knew it. Um, you know, it was something I kept

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Speaker 1: And you know, I never led on to anybody. In fact,

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Speaker 1: if they're listening tonight, they're sitting there going, well, she

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Speaker 1: never told me, of course not. I didn't tell you,

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Speaker 1: like that would have gone over well. You know, cops

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Speaker 1: need evidence, we need proof. You know, if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily something that you're going to bring to

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Speaker 1: your colleagues and go, hey, guys, guess what the resident

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Speaker 1: catch just told me that the bad guys hiding out

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Speaker 1: in the shed, you know they're so that wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: gone over very well. So no, I didn't tell them.

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