WEBVTT - #729 Packers Unscripted: Good start, bad news

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from our studios at lambeau Field and Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a big Week one victory by the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers over the Chicago Bears to talk about. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to that, I want to start with

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on Monday Night football, Because just before we

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<v Speaker 1>turned the cameras on, the news became official. The MRI

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed that Aaron Rodgers tore his achilles on his fourth

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<v Speaker 1>snap as the quarterback for the New York Jets. His

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<v Speaker 1>season is over now. Of course, there's all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>speculation that maybe his Hall of Fame career is over.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily want to go there just yet, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>this just stinks for football fans. It stinks for so

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<v Speaker 1>much people. Matt Lafleur's best friend Robert saw the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets fan base, and this stinks for football fans

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<v Speaker 1>in general, that Aaron Rodgers will not be playing this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it reminds me a lot, and unfortunately, Aaron's much older,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does remind me of eight with Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 2>tearing his acl right off the bat, where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big lines. And I tried to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with some words to describe all this and to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it as a late addition to Insider Inbox

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<v Speaker 2>for Tuesday. But the fact that you have a legitimate star,

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<v Speaker 2>a legend in this sport, a guy that has given

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<v Speaker 2>so much to this game, and you know, take away

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<v Speaker 2>anything that happened with the Packers, take away the trade

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<v Speaker 2>and all these ramifications for the Jets. The amount of

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<v Speaker 2>excitement and anticipation in the league for Aaron Rodgers making

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<v Speaker 2>his debut in New York in that market, I can

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<v Speaker 2>only imagine the amount of marketing and you know, finances

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<v Speaker 2>that the Jets put into this, you know, promoting this.

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<v Speaker 1>And a fan base that has gone through I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise that has I believe, the longest playoff drought

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<v Speaker 1>of any team in the NFL, right, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know or something up there. I mean, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>fan base and a franchise that was that was really

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<v Speaker 1>fired up to have a shot this year. And now

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<v Speaker 1>it feel it feels like the rug has been pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out from under him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it haven't happened right off the bat like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even get a chance to watch the game yet, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shooting a show that you know I do

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<v Speaker 2>for wasa TV. And we get done and I look

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<v Speaker 2>at my phone and it was already blowing up about Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers got hurt. We didn't know the severity at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, but we knew he was injured in watching

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<v Speaker 2>the play. And your heart just sinks because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not Aaron Rodgers' best friend. I don't know his

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone number, I don't know you know, I never

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<v Speaker 2>went to dinner with him, but we did cover him

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<v Speaker 2>for ten years. We saw this guy go from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a prospect to a super Bowl champion to a multiple

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<v Speaker 2>time MVP. And here he is embarking on this new

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<v Speaker 2>part of his career in the hype wagon and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that gets tied to it this offseason, then doing hard Knocks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all the years we heard about maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>being so keen on doing hard knocks and Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>was the star of it this year. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>ends this way. As I wrote an inbox, the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing I thought about was not this way out of

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<v Speaker 2>all the ways in which Aaron Rodgers season, whatever happens

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that goes down Week one, stepping on the field

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time for the Jets on Monday Night

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<v Speaker 2>Football and he has a rupture achilles is. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>the wind out of the sales for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I have to admit. There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>talk in the off season. Rogers even gave some press

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<v Speaker 1>conferences in New York to this effect that the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line was the weak link for the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>And he took four snaps. Two times he dropped back

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<v Speaker 1>to pass. He was under pressure in both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt when this trade was made and there was

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<v Speaker 1>the ramifications of the playing time in the draft, pick

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<v Speaker 1>compensation and all that, and thinking strictly in those terms,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, yeah, there's a chance that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is going to get hurt behind that offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not very good and he's thirty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just never envisioned. I mean, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's come back from two broken collar bones, he's

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<v Speaker 1>played with a broken thumb, he's played with who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what else he played with that nobody knew about. I

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<v Speaker 1>never in a million years would have conceived of like

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<v Speaker 1>something season ending happening, let alone it happening on his

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<v Speaker 1>opening series with his new team. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just it's unfathomable, and I'm still having a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>processing it, frankly.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when I woke up on Tuesday morning, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know there's a couple of people that made this comment

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<v Speaker 2>too on Twitter or last night. Just doesn't even seem real.

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<v Speaker 2>With the way that that game ended. You know, the Jets,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen, it looks like everything is going their way

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<v Speaker 2>at halftime. They didn't put up a ton of points,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like, man, how does New York come back

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<v Speaker 2>from this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Buffalo Buffalo is in control of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Zach Wilson brings the Jets back and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen starts throwing interceptions and everything else, and suddenly you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a game coming down to the wire.

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<v Speaker 2>And you win the game on a punt return from

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that was basically the feel good story of

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<v Speaker 2>hard knocks making the team and then before you can

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<v Speaker 2>even fully celebrate, and certainly the people inside MetLife Stadium did,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Robert Sala with a very sullen report afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>fearing what they all feared, which ended up being confirmed again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Aaron Rodgers, that there's so many stars in

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<v Speaker 2>this league, but it's just so rare that you have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that captures the imagination the way that Rogers has

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his career and through his rise to being a

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<v Speaker 2>four time MVP. We're in a league now where there

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<v Speaker 2>is no Tom Brady anymore, at least on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>and now for this season, at the very least, no

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers. So it it sucked, man, it it sucked

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it. I was so excited to watch that

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<v Speaker 2>football game just to enjoy it as a football fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>And you get a real hard dose of reality and

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<v Speaker 2>how cruel this game can be. Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cruel, it's brutal, and uh yeah, it's a It

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<v Speaker 1>was a It was a real downer of a Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night to uh, to wrap up Week one of this

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season. Twenty four hours before that, the Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of on cloud nine, you might say, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as Week ones go. A thirty eight to twenty victory,

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<v Speaker 1>a very convincing victory on the road at Soldier Field

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<v Speaker 1>over the Chicago Bears. And when you start with the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just that Jordan Love threw for three touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>and put up a one twenty plus pass rating and

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<v Speaker 1>had you know, had these uh, these sparkling statistics. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was two things that we saw to

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love. One which we knew all along, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that nothing bothers him. And there were moments in the

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<v Speaker 1>game where things weren't going too well on offense there

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, after that opening drive touchdown, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, the Bears had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a rally there in the second half, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>feel the crowd at Soldier Field getting into things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting fired up. And Jordan Love was just his calm, collected,

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<v Speaker 1>poised self all the way along. But the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is pois situationally, third downs, fourth downs. Jordan Love was

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<v Speaker 1>on the money in this game. He made the plays

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<v Speaker 1>when the plays needed to be made in those crucial situations.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you are that good situationally, you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a tough team to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>And they did it in every conceivable way possible. There

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<v Speaker 2>were times where the Packers got in favorable down in

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<v Speaker 2>distance and they took advantage of a third and short opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he makes a thirteen yard pass to Roam

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<v Speaker 2>Dobs on thirteen and three at a crucial juncture in

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<v Speaker 2>the game when the Packers needed to build some momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just a fourth down play pass to Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Jones that turns into a touchdown. Right, these type of

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<v Speaker 2>moments are huge for a young quarterback. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be the type of things that your fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>football league is necessarily going to give you any extra

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<v Speaker 2>points for. But this is what wins and loses football

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<v Speaker 2>games in this league. The Packers dominated in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>being able to control the pace of this game. They

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<v Speaker 2>won in the red zone, they won in the third downs,

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<v Speaker 2>and also they won in the turnover margin. They played

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<v Speaker 2>clean football. The one gripe that you kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>in this game was okay, well, there are some extracurricular

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<v Speaker 2>penalties that they picked up, but never at really a

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<v Speaker 2>crucial juncture. It was sort of in this mop up

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<v Speaker 2>duty or the Packers had possession of the football after

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<v Speaker 2>a turnover. There were so many things I took away

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<v Speaker 2>from this game, but coming back to the Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>piece of it. For a young guy going into that

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<v Speaker 2>stadium and Mike, it was incredible. The atmosphere there in.

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<v Speaker 1>The first quarter, it was intense.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen it. It reminded me, this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a weird example, but it reminded me when

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the Butler UWM Horizon Ing Championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was twenty eleven and UW Milwaukee had

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<v Speaker 2>won the regular season title, Butler had made a national

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<v Speaker 2>runner up, and there was ten thousand people in the

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<v Speaker 2>cell just screaming their heads off because of how excited

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<v Speaker 2>they were about their team. Butler routed them and at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the game there was like two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people left. That's the same exact way that this game

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<v Speaker 2>played out. For as rowdy as it was and as

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<v Speaker 2>raucous as it was, the Packers completely took the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>fans out of this thing in the third quarter and

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<v Speaker 2>by the end, I made the remark to a few

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<v Speaker 2>people it felt like a preseason game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this was not. This was not a Packers

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<v Speaker 1>crowd that was able to get their hands on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tickets. I mean, yes, there were some Packer

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<v Speaker 1>fans sprinkled throughout Soldier Field. But you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>been at plenty of road games where we've seen way

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<v Speaker 1>more Packers fans than we saw. That Bears fan base

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<v Speaker 1>was fired up. They were rare and to go. They

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<v Speaker 1>had the whole you know, everybody screaming from the first

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<v Speaker 1>note to the last of the national anthem and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people don't necessarily see or hear all that

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. But the Packers came out and answered the bell.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you talk about situational football, the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>offense converted nine of its first fourteen third downs and then,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, one of those that they didn't, they

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<v Speaker 1>end up converting on fourth down with the thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard catch and run touchdown by Aaron Jones. If I

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<v Speaker 1>did the math right, on third and fourth downs, Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Love was eight out of ten for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty six yards with two touchdowns on third and fourth down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough to beat.

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<v Speaker 2>And he threw for two forty five. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of his work in those situations. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other thing too. You know, you could talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Jordan Love a lot, but and I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get into this too with Aaron Jones and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the offensive line, but twenty one of Green Bay's

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<v Speaker 2>point three of the touchdowns all came on drones, all

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<v Speaker 2>came on drives where Jones just completely dominated. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at that third quarter, right, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy had ninety seven I think of his total yards

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<v Speaker 2>on those two series. He was the difference maker in this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, as much as we made out of

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<v Speaker 2>Jones or Fields and Love and this transition, it does

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<v Speaker 2>come down to your playmakers. And I felt like all

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<v Speaker 2>the auxiliary pieces, so to speak, in terms of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>what the national headlines are, green Bay on paper was

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<v Speaker 2>significantly better than the Chicago Bears, and they won in

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<v Speaker 2>all those areas. They won with their running back, they

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<v Speaker 2>won with their offensive line, they won with their defensive line,

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<v Speaker 2>and shoot for as much money as the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 2>spent on their linebackers this year, it was Kwai Walker

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<v Speaker 2>making arguably the biggest defensive play of the day with

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty seven yard pick six. The Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>went into Chicago in a situation which they could have

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<v Speaker 2>completely had no momentum out of this game if it

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<v Speaker 2>goes the wrong way, and instead I think left feeling like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we are the team that we really

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<v Speaker 2>thought we were this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the Bears. The Bears have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work to do. I think that was an incredibly disappointing,

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<v Speaker 1>deflating in many ways performance for that team and and

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<v Speaker 1>everything they were hoping to build toward with Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>in his third year and Matt Eberfluss the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in his second year, and you know, trying to wrestle

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers dominance of the rivalry away from them and

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<v Speaker 1>getting the chance to do that the Bears, quite frankly, West,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears have a longer way to go than I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were going to see a better a

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<v Speaker 1>better Bears team and a better Bears performance than we

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<v Speaker 1>did on Sunday. But when you look at you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what Green Bay's defense was able to do, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what stood. What stood out to me the most

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<v Speaker 1>is that is that when the Bears did get something going,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike last year with the Packers defense, it didn't snowball

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<v Speaker 1>into this extended stretch of you know, you're watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers defense going, come on, somebody do something like what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on out there? Right that now the Bears had

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<v Speaker 1>their own hand, and those those first couple of drives

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<v Speaker 1>that they did have ending in field goals, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the one of them ending in a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>because of some false starts, and they put themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad spot there. But when the Bears did get

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<v Speaker 1>that touchdown in the third quarter, and they were starting

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<v Speaker 1>to shift the momentum back, and yes, the Packers answered

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<v Speaker 1>with a score, which was big. But then when the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears got the ball back again, that's when the interception happens.

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<v Speaker 1>The pick, the pick six by kway Walker, the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers defense. Every time it was looking like the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears might get something going, then it stopped and things

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<v Speaker 1>turned back the other way. And I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>the most positive sign for Green Bay's defense here in

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<v Speaker 1>the opener.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you look at the first first sequence, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers win the coin toss to for the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>come out and they're going to try to play this

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<v Speaker 2>thing hot and heavy. You know, they end up in

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<v Speaker 2>a third and short situation third and one Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff's kind of a gimmick play there where Cole Komeck

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<v Speaker 2>comes under center. The next play, it's gonna be Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 2>big tall, physical guy that can basically run like a

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<v Speaker 2>running back. Green Bay stymies him there too, get the

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<v Speaker 2>turnover of downs out the forty. Packers get some points,

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<v Speaker 2>but after that the offense kind of, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of struggles a little bit trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do something. In that second quarter, green Bay really, with

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<v Speaker 2>a few exceptions, didn't blink defensively. I think you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Pro Football Focus numbers on this thing, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five pressures of Justin Fields. The Packers were smart and

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<v Speaker 2>how they approached him. Six carries, fifty nine yard, nine carries,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, fifty nine yards. That's still some decent production

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<v Speaker 2>with his feet. He showed you how he can hurt

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<v Speaker 2>you if you don't wrap him up on a sack.

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<v Speaker 2>But ultimately green Bay did what they've done well in

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<v Speaker 2>these games, these five games now against Justin Fields, which

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<v Speaker 2>is make him throw the football and can be a

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<v Speaker 2>pocket passer in green Bay dominated in those instances for

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Gary. I also saw the statistics. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was ten pass rushing snaps, seven pressures or five pressures

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. Came to play. Davante Wyatt was not

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<v Speaker 2>too big for him of sack and a half coming

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<v Speaker 2>off a sack performance the year before. Darnell Savage, Rasul

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas played fast and physical, Jyry Alexander shutting out DJ Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>All the things you and I talked about last Thursday, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers executed, They won those matchups, and they won

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<v Speaker 2>the football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think when you look at things, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at things on both sides of the ball, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of what we expected to see, which

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<v Speaker 1>was the Packers offensive line very much in control. Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Love was protected very very well all all game long.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw Aaron Jones and his value to this offense

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<v Speaker 1>which cannot be overstated. Aaron Jones and what he brings

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<v Speaker 1>to this offense is really impressive. Defensively, you know, Jaw

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<v Speaker 1>was right, Rareshaun Gary and his limited snaps. That was

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<v Speaker 1>Rareshaun Gary. Preston Smith was Preston Smith. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>start you start mixing in what these young guys did.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas Vaness, I think he's surprised the heck out of

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields with how fast he is because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Fields thought even though van Ness didn't bite on the

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<v Speaker 1>playfake and stayed home on the back side. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Fields thought he could run away from him, didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>close to running away from him. Van van Ness gets

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<v Speaker 1>a sack. Another rookie, Carl Brooks, gets a sack. We

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<v Speaker 1>see what Jaden Reed does on offense, makes two big

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<v Speaker 1>catches on third down, also as a thirty five yard

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<v Speaker 1>pump return that sets the Packers up in good position.

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<v Speaker 1>The young guys did their thing as well as everything

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<v Speaker 1>we expected the veteran players on this team to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Again it was the Bears. They won three games last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They still have a long way to go, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are going to face better teams, including this week

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<v Speaker 1>when they go down to Atlanta in Week two. But

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<v Speaker 1>you saw everything you were hoping to see out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers in week one. This is what the Packers wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where they are, and yet Matt Lafleur still

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<v Speaker 1>has plenty to work on in terms of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about too many free hitters in the running game,

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<v Speaker 1>the penalties, both some of the combative penalties, but then

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<v Speaker 1>also the personal files and stuff. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>not by any means some kind of perfect game by

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, but you saw what you wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>in week one, which hasn't necessarily happened the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years. And now the Packers get back to work

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<v Speaker 1>and move on and try to start to and oh

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<v Speaker 1>on the road with a trip to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and like I said to you as we were

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<v Speaker 2>walking down to the locker room after the game, the

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay Packers beat the Chicago Bears the way they

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<v Speaker 2>need to beat a team like that. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of hype. I wasn't necessarily buying it

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<v Speaker 2>just because I didn't see a brand new car in

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<v Speaker 2>the lot. I saw a team that deconstructed their defense

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<v Speaker 2>last year and just brought in new players this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw an offensive line that still had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the same question marks as last year. Because as

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<v Speaker 2>much as gets put on Justin Fields and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people talk about, well, you know, he can run,

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<v Speaker 2>but he can't throw. I think you also saw the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between an offensive line with Jordan Love that gave

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<v Speaker 2>him time, gave him, you know, opportunity, in an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line with Chicago where they had to kind of make

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<v Speaker 2>adjustments based on how much penetration green Bay was getting.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I loved about this victory though, Mike and

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<v Speaker 2>you touched on it on your story on Monday, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Packers offensive line, for as many questions

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<v Speaker 2>as there were, you know, David bock Terry doesn't practice last.

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<v Speaker 1>Week for like two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, situation at right tackle, all these things in that

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<v Speaker 2>unit probably put together one of the more impressive performances

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen, even dating back to training camp. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought they looked in command, and I thought, even on

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<v Speaker 2>both sides, you know, this is iron sharpening iron, and

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<v Speaker 2>some good players in both of these offensive and defensive fronts,

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<v Speaker 2>and they finally got to go out in really go

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<v Speaker 2>full tilt against an opposing team, and it gave them

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to build on.

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<v Speaker 1>take taking a look at Week one, and in particular

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC North. Obviously packers want to know Bears

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<v Speaker 1>zero to one. But the Detroit Lions beat the defending champs,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead in the NFL kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>game last Thursday, and then the Buccaneers went into US

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<v Speaker 1>Bank Stadium and knocked off the defending NFC North champion

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings in Week one. I think everybody in the

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<v Speaker 1>f world or just about everybody, thought both of those

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<v Speaker 1>games would go the other way, that the Lions would

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<v Speaker 1>be zero to one and the Vikings would be one

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<v Speaker 1>to zero based on those Week one matchups and locations

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<v Speaker 1>of those games. But here we are West, the new

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<v Speaker 1>season is underway, and you just never know.

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<v Speaker 2>If there was ever a game that indicated the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of a tight end and then the importance of the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>it was these two games, starting just really quickly with

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<v Speaker 2>the Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield won this game for Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay was not able to run the ball well,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't. Situationally. There were some struggles, but ultimately Baker

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<v Speaker 2>Mayfield made some plays and didn't make as any mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>as Kirk Cousins made. Even though Cousins from a pure

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<v Speaker 2>output standpoint production standpoint outshined him, it comes back to

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<v Speaker 2>that turnover margin. This game changes, things evolve, but it

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<v Speaker 2>always comes back to how you do protecting the football

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<v Speaker 2>in when the chips were down and Mayfield need to

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<v Speaker 2>make a throw, he made it late. Because as many

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<v Speaker 2>changes as there are there for them, both with Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Brady and also some of those backfield additions, they still

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<v Speaker 2>got Mike Evans and they still got Chris Godwin, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought both of those guys really shine when they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to. I'll throw the Lions thing back to you

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<v Speaker 2>because I think I probably had a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>different opinion on this than a lot of folks. But

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, the Lions beat the Chiefs. They

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<v Speaker 2>went into Arrowhead Stadium. That's a huge victory. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the coming out party that the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it to be based on that. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of hoping for maybe a forty two to

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<v Speaker 2>forty one shootout. It did not work out that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Beating Kansas City is one thing. Beating Kansas City with

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Kelcey is another. Unfortunately for the Packers, they probably

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<v Speaker 2>will have to see Kelsey later this season. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions that worked out perfectly for them. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Kelsey's injury happened when it did, Kansas City had

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<v Speaker 2>to make some really stark adjustments, and unfortunately for Kadarius

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<v Speaker 2>Tony probably had one of the worst games I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen from a player in a regular season. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I mean the bottom line is this, even with

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<v Speaker 1>even with Travis Kelcey being out, with Chris Jones not

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<v Speaker 1>having signed his contract to you know, all pro players

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<v Speaker 1>for the Kansas City Chiefs, if they catch the football,

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<v Speaker 1>they win the game, right, I mean, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>that It's that simple. Because because the Lions got seven

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<v Speaker 1>points on defense off of a perfect throw by Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>that turns into seven points the other way. So, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's football. That's the way this game goes. You have

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<v Speaker 1>you have to execute, and when you and when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't execute, and the other team is good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of your mistakes, that's what happens. And and

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how this league goes. And that's why, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you just you just never know. It's why

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<v Speaker 1>you have to play the games, and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of business, and and the Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be fine. I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>larger question now when I when I look at where

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions are a lot of hype, obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks picking them to win the NFC North.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they start with a big win in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back to what for me and I'll always remember this,

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<v Speaker 1>it was my first year here in this position with

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. And go back to what Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>said when he was first hired here in Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six and he's taking over a

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<v Speaker 1>four and twelve team. Everybody was wondering where this was

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<v Speaker 1>going with a Hall of Fame quarterback and Brett Favre,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike McCarthy was asked what the biggest challenge was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be and he says, our biggest challenge will

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<v Speaker 1>be handling success. I mean, a he knew that he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to make the team successful, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>a big challenge in this league to handle success. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you're in a downturn with your team, with

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<v Speaker 1>your franchise, and then the success comes to maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>guys who haven't experienced it yet in the NFL, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they handle it, what happens, how do you move forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Not making any predictions one way or the other, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is the big question right now for the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions and for Dan Campbell moving forward, because that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no two ways about it. That was a huge victory for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, absolutely, and especially to have that platform a team

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<v Speaker 2>that went so long without even really being in prime

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<v Speaker 2>time other than some Thanksgiving games, that was a big

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<v Speaker 2>moment that what I will My big takeaway from this

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<v Speaker 2>game was though actually had very little to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive side of the ball, It had to do

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<v Speaker 2>with One, they're very creative on special teams. I give

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<v Speaker 2>them so much credit for that. The fake punts that

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<v Speaker 2>they've pulled off the last couple of years are just incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>But Two, that defense statistically was not very good last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Packers had some rough outings against them, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they built towards something at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>season and that carried into this game. Aiden Hutchinson is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a real player in this league and

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be a problem for a lot of teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>He's a beast to deal with, especially the way they're

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<v Speaker 2>using and moving them inside a little bit. Brian Branch

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<v Speaker 2>might end up being the best overall value pick though

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<v Speaker 2>of this draft. I mean, it's a guy that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks talked about being a possible first rounder. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>he plays safety in twenty twenty three, and some people

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to put those assets towards the position. But

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<v Speaker 2>he played great and it wasn't just the pick. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean overall. I thought he had a really solid football

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<v Speaker 2>game and showed how valuable that position can be for

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<v Speaker 2>a team that has really struggled in its secondary the

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<v Speaker 2>last few seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Lions look like they're putting something together on

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<v Speaker 1>defense with without a whole lot of household names. Aidan

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<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson is the name everybody knows, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to start to know some more of the

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<v Speaker 1>names on that Lions defense as the season goes forward.

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<v Speaker 1>So and Packers are going to see him soon enough

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<v Speaker 1>week four Thursday, and at football it's coming up soon enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Two weeks away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's gonna be here before we know it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Lions will be coming here to Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>for a big NFC North battle. But with that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>team on packers dot com for wes I am Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you

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<v Speaker 1>next time.