1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field and Wes. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: We have a big Week one victory by the Green 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Bay Packers over the Chicago Bears to talk about. But 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: before we get to that, I want to start with 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: what happened on Monday Night football, Because just before we 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: turned the cameras on, the news became official. The MRI 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: confirmed that Aaron Rodgers tore his achilles on his fourth 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: snap as the quarterback for the New York Jets. His 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: season is over now. Of course, there's all kinds of 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: speculation that maybe his Hall of Fame career is over. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to go there just yet, but man, 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: this just stinks for football fans. It stinks for so 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: much people. Matt Lafleur's best friend Robert saw the Jets, 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the Jets fan base, and this stinks for football fans 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: in general, that Aaron Rodgers will not be playing this season. 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me a lot, and unfortunately, Aaron's much older, 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: but it does remind me of eight with Tom Brady 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: tearing his acl right off the bat, where you know, 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: one of the big lines. And I tried to come 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: up with some words to describe all this and to 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: talk about it as a late addition to Insider Inbox 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: for Tuesday. But the fact that you have a legitimate star, 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: a legend in this sport, a guy that has given 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: so much to this game, and you know, take away 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 2: anything that happened with the Packers, take away the trade 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: and all these ramifications for the Jets. The amount of 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: excitement and anticipation in the league for Aaron Rodgers making 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: his debut in New York in that market, I can 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: only imagine the amount of marketing and you know, finances 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: that the Jets put into this, you know, promoting this. 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: And a fan base that has gone through I mean, 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: a franchise that has I believe, the longest playoff drought 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: of any team in the NFL, right, I mean, you 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: know or something up there. I mean, this was a 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: fan base and a franchise that was that was really 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: fired up to have a shot this year. And now 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: it feel it feels like the rug has been pulled 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: out from under him. 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it haven't happened right off the bat like that. 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: I didn't even get a chance to watch the game yet, Mike. 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: I was shooting a show that you know I do 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: for wasa TV. And we get done and I look 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: at my phone and it was already blowing up about Hey, 47 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers got hurt. We didn't know the severity at 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: that point, but we knew he was injured in watching 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: the play. And your heart just sinks because you know, 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm not Aaron Rodgers' best friend. I don't know his 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: cell phone number, I don't know you know, I never 52 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: went to dinner with him, but we did cover him 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: for ten years. We saw this guy go from you know, 54 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: a prospect to a super Bowl champion to a multiple 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: time MVP. And here he is embarking on this new 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: part of his career in the hype wagon and everything 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: that gets tied to it this offseason, then doing hard Knocks. 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, all the years we heard about maybe not 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: being so keen on doing hard knocks and Aaron Rodgers 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: was the star of it this year. And then it 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: ends this way. As I wrote an inbox, the first 62 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: thing I thought about was not this way out of 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: all the ways in which Aaron Rodgers season, whatever happens 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: beyond that goes down Week one, stepping on the field 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: for the first time for the Jets on Monday Night 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Football and he has a rupture achilles is. It takes 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: the wind out of the sales for sure. 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have to admit. There was a lot of 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: talk in the off season. Rogers even gave some press 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: conferences in New York to this effect that the offensive 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: line was the weak link for the New York Jets. 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: And he took four snaps. Two times he dropped back 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: to pass. He was under pressure in both of them. 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: I felt when this trade was made and there was 75 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the ramifications of the playing time in the draft, pick 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: compensation and all that, and thinking strictly in those terms, 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, yeah, there's a chance that Aaron 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to get hurt behind that offensive line 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: because it's not very good and he's thirty nine years old. 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: But I just never envisioned. I mean, this is a 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: guy who's come back from two broken collar bones, he's 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: played with a broken thumb, he's played with who knows 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: what else he played with that nobody knew about. I 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: never in a million years would have conceived of like 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: something season ending happening, let alone it happening on his 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: opening series with his new team. I mean, this is 87 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: just it's unfathomable, and I'm still having a hard time 88 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: processing it, frankly. 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: Even when I woke up on Tuesday morning, and I 90 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: know there's a couple of people that made this comment 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: too on Twitter or last night. Just doesn't even seem real. 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: With the way that that game ended. You know, the Jets, 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, it looks like everything is going their way 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: at halftime. They didn't put up a ton of points, 95 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: but it's like, man, how does New York come back 96 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: from this? 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Buffalo Buffalo is in control of the game, 98 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: and then Zach Wilson brings the Jets back and Josh 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: Allen starts throwing interceptions and everything else, and suddenly you've 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: got a game coming down to the wire. 101 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: And you win the game on a punt return from 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: the guy that was basically the feel good story of 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: hard knocks making the team and then before you can 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: even fully celebrate, and certainly the people inside MetLife Stadium did, 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: But you know, Robert Sala with a very sullen report afterwards, 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 2: fearing what they all feared, which ended up being confirmed again. 107 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Rodgers, that there's so many stars in 108 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: this league, but it's just so rare that you have 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: somebody that captures the imagination the way that Rogers has 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: throughout his career and through his rise to being a 111 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: four time MVP. We're in a league now where there 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: is no Tom Brady anymore, at least on the field, 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: and now for this season, at the very least, no 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. So it it sucked, man, it it sucked 115 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: to watch it. I was so excited to watch that 116 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: football game just to enjoy it as a football fan. 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 118 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: And you get a real hard dose of reality and 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: how cruel this game can be. Yeah it is. 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: It's cruel, it's brutal, and uh yeah, it's a It 121 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: was a It was a real downer of a Monday 122 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: night to uh, to wrap up Week one of this 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: NFL season. Twenty four hours before that, the Packers were 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: were kind of on cloud nine, you might say, as 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: far as Week ones go. A thirty eight to twenty victory, 126 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: a very convincing victory on the road at Soldier Field 127 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: over the Chicago Bears. And when you start with the offense, 128 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't just that Jordan Love threw for three touchdowns 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: and put up a one twenty plus pass rating and 130 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: had you know, had these uh, these sparkling statistics. To me, 131 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: it was it was two things that we saw to 132 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. One which we knew all along, which is 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: that nothing bothers him. And there were moments in the 134 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: game where things weren't going too well on offense there 135 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: in the first half, after that opening drive touchdown, and 136 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: then you know, the Bears had a little bit of 137 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: a rally there in the second half, and you could 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: feel the crowd at Soldier Field getting into things, you know, 139 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: and getting fired up. And Jordan Love was just his calm, collected, 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: poised self all the way along. But the other thing 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: is pois situationally, third downs, fourth downs. Jordan Love was 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: on the money in this game. He made the plays 143 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: when the plays needed to be made in those crucial situations. 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: And when you are that good situationally, you were going 145 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: to be a tough team to stop. 146 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: And they did it in every conceivable way possible. There 147 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: were times where the Packers got in favorable down in 148 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: distance and they took advantage of a third and short opportunity. 149 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: But then he makes a thirteen yard pass to Roam 150 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Dobs on thirteen and three at a crucial juncture in 151 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: the game when the Packers needed to build some momentum. 152 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: There was just a fourth down play pass to Aaron 153 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: Jones that turns into a touchdown. Right, these type of 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: moments are huge for a young quarterback. I mean, they're 155 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: not gonna be the type of things that your fantasy 156 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: football league is necessarily going to give you any extra 157 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: points for. But this is what wins and loses football 158 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: games in this league. The Packers dominated in terms of 159 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: being able to control the pace of this game. They 160 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: won in the red zone, they won in the third downs, 161 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: and also they won in the turnover margin. They played 162 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: clean football. The one gripe that you kind of had 163 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: in this game was okay, well, there are some extracurricular 164 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: penalties that they picked up, but never at really a 165 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: crucial juncture. It was sort of in this mop up 166 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: duty or the Packers had possession of the football after 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: a turnover. There were so many things I took away 168 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: from this game, but coming back to the Jordan Love 169 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: piece of it. For a young guy going into that 170 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: stadium and Mike, it was incredible. The atmosphere there in. 171 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: The first quarter, it was intense. 172 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: I've never seen it. It reminded me, this is going 173 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: to be a weird example, but it reminded me when 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: I went to the Butler UWM Horizon Ing Championship game. 175 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: I think it was twenty eleven and UW Milwaukee had 176 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: won the regular season title, Butler had made a national 177 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: runner up, and there was ten thousand people in the 178 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: cell just screaming their heads off because of how excited 179 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: they were about their team. Butler routed them and at 180 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: the end of the game there was like two hundred 181 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: people left. That's the same exact way that this game 182 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: played out. For as rowdy as it was and as 183 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: raucous as it was, the Packers completely took the Bears 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: fans out of this thing in the third quarter and 185 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: by the end, I made the remark to a few 186 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: people it felt like a preseason game. 187 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was not. This was not a Packers 188 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: crowd that was able to get their hands on a 189 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: lot of tickets. I mean, yes, there were some Packer 190 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: fans sprinkled throughout Soldier Field. But you and I have 191 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: been at plenty of road games where we've seen way 192 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: more Packers fans than we saw. That Bears fan base 193 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: was fired up. They were rare and to go. They 194 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: had the whole you know, everybody screaming from the first 195 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: note to the last of the national anthem and all that. 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I know people don't necessarily see or hear all that 197 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: on TV. But the Packers came out and answered the bell. 198 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: And when you talk about situational football, the Green Bay 199 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: offense converted nine of its first fourteen third downs and then, 200 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, one of those that they didn't, they 201 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: end up converting on fourth down with the thirty five 202 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: yard catch and run touchdown by Aaron Jones. If I 203 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: did the math right, on third and fourth downs, Jordan 204 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: Love was eight out of ten for one hundred and 205 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: forty six yards with two touchdowns on third and fourth down. 206 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: That's tough to beat. 207 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: And he threw for two forty five. I mean, he 208 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: did a lot of his work in those situations. Yeah, 209 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: and the other thing too. You know, you could talk 210 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: about Jordan Love a lot, but and I'm sure you 211 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: want to get into this too with Aaron Jones and 212 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: obviously the offensive line, but twenty one of Green Bay's 213 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: point three of the touchdowns all came on drones, all 214 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: came on drives where Jones just completely dominated. And you know, 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: you look at that third quarter, right, I mean, the 216 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: guy had ninety seven I think of his total yards 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: on those two series. He was the difference maker in this. 218 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: And I thought, as much as we made out of 219 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: Jones or Fields and Love and this transition, it does 220 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: come down to your playmakers. And I felt like all 221 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: the auxiliary pieces, so to speak, in terms of maybe 222 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: what the national headlines are, green Bay on paper was 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: significantly better than the Chicago Bears, and they won in 224 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: all those areas. They won with their running back, they 225 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: won with their offensive line, they won with their defensive line, 226 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: and shoot for as much money as the Chicago Bears 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: spent on their linebackers this year, it was Kwai Walker 228 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: making arguably the biggest defensive play of the day with 229 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: the thirty seven yard pick six. The Green Bay Packers 230 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: went into Chicago in a situation which they could have 231 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: completely had no momentum out of this game if it 232 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: goes the wrong way, and instead I think left feeling like, 233 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: you know what, we are the team that we really 234 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: thought we were this summer. 235 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Bears. The Bears have a lot 236 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: of work to do. I think that was an incredibly disappointing, 237 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: deflating in many ways performance for that team and and 238 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: everything they were hoping to build toward with Justin Fields 239 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: in his third year and Matt Eberfluss the head coach 240 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: in his second year, and you know, trying to wrestle 241 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: the Packers dominance of the rivalry away from them and 242 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: getting the chance to do that the Bears, quite frankly, West, 243 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: the Bears have a longer way to go than I thought. 244 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to see a better a 245 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: better Bears team and a better Bears performance than we 246 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: did on Sunday. But when you look at you look 247 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: at what Green Bay's defense was able to do, I 248 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: guess what stood. What stood out to me the most 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: is that is that when the Bears did get something going, 250 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: unlike last year with the Packers defense, it didn't snowball 251 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: into this extended stretch of you know, you're watching the 252 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: Packers defense going, come on, somebody do something like what's 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: going on out there? Right that now the Bears had 254 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: their own hand, and those those first couple of drives 255 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: that they did have ending in field goals, or at 256 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: least the one of them ending in a field goal 257 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: because of some false starts, and they put themselves in 258 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: a bad spot there. But when the Bears did get 259 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: that touchdown in the third quarter, and they were starting 260 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: to shift the momentum back, and yes, the Packers answered 261 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: with a score, which was big. But then when the 262 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Bears got the ball back again, that's when the interception happens. 263 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: The pick, the pick six by kway Walker, the Packers, 264 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: the Packers defense. Every time it was looking like the 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: Bears might get something going, then it stopped and things 266 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: turned back the other way. And I think that was 267 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: the most positive sign for Green Bay's defense here in 268 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: the opener. 269 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you look at the first first sequence, right, 270 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: the Packers win the coin toss to for the Bears 271 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: come out and they're going to try to play this 272 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: thing hot and heavy. You know, they end up in 273 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: a third and short situation third and one Green Bay. 274 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: Stuff's kind of a gimmick play there where Cole Komeck 275 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: comes under center. The next play, it's gonna be Justin Fields, 276 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: big tall, physical guy that can basically run like a 277 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: running back. Green Bay stymies him there too, get the 278 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: turnover of downs out the forty. Packers get some points, 279 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: but after that the offense kind of, you know, it 280 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: kind of struggles a little bit trying to, you know, 281 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: do something. In that second quarter, green Bay really, with 282 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: a few exceptions, didn't blink defensively. I think you look 283 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: at the Pro Football Focus numbers on this thing, thirty 284 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: five pressures of Justin Fields. The Packers were smart and 285 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: how they approached him. Six carries, fifty nine yard, nine carries, 286 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: excuse me, fifty nine yards. That's still some decent production 287 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: with his feet. He showed you how he can hurt 288 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: you if you don't wrap him up on a sack. 289 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: But ultimately green Bay did what they've done well in 290 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: these games, these five games now against Justin Fields, which 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: is make him throw the football and can be a 292 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: pocket passer in green Bay dominated in those instances for 293 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Sean Gary. I also saw the statistics. I think it 294 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: was ten pass rushing snaps, seven pressures or five pressures 295 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: something like that. Came to play. Davante Wyatt was not 296 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: too big for him of sack and a half coming 297 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: off a sack performance the year before. Darnell Savage, Rasul 298 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: Douglas played fast and physical, Jyry Alexander shutting out DJ Moore. 299 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: All the things you and I talked about last Thursday, Mike. 300 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: The Packers executed, They won those matchups, and they won 301 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: the football game. 302 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when you look at things, when you 303 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: look at things on both sides of the ball, we 304 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: saw a lot of what we expected to see, which 305 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: was the Packers offensive line very much in control. Jordan 306 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Love was protected very very well all all game long. 307 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: We saw Aaron Jones and his value to this offense 308 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: which cannot be overstated. Aaron Jones and what he brings 309 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: to this offense is really impressive. Defensively, you know, Jaw 310 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: was right, Rareshaun Gary and his limited snaps. That was 311 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Rareshaun Gary. Preston Smith was Preston Smith. But then you 312 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: start you start mixing in what these young guys did. 313 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Lucas Vaness, I think he's surprised the heck out of 314 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields with how fast he is because I think 315 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Fields thought even though van Ness didn't bite on the 316 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: playfake and stayed home on the back side. I think 317 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Fields thought he could run away from him, didn't come 318 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: close to running away from him. Van van Ness gets 319 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: a sack. Another rookie, Carl Brooks, gets a sack. We 320 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: see what Jaden Reed does on offense, makes two big 321 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: catches on third down, also as a thirty five yard 322 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: pump return that sets the Packers up in good position. 323 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: The young guys did their thing as well as everything 324 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: we expected the veteran players on this team to do. 325 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: Again it was the Bears. They won three games last year. 326 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: They still have a long way to go, and the 327 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Packers are going to face better teams, including this week 328 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: when they go down to Atlanta in Week two. But 329 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: you saw everything you were hoping to see out of 330 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the Packers in week one. This is what the Packers wanted, 331 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: this is where they are, and yet Matt Lafleur still 332 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: has plenty to work on in terms of you know, 333 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: he talked about too many free hitters in the running game, 334 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: the penalties, both some of the combative penalties, but then 335 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: also the personal files and stuff. It was it was 336 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: not by any means some kind of perfect game by 337 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay, but you saw what you wanted to see 338 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: in week one, which hasn't necessarily happened the last couple 339 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: of years. And now the Packers get back to work 340 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: and move on and try to start to and oh 341 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: on the road with a trip to Atlanta. 342 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 2: Well, and like I said to you as we were 343 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: walking down to the locker room after the game, the 344 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: green Bay Packers beat the Chicago Bears the way they 345 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: need to beat a team like that. I mean, there 346 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: was a lot of hype. I wasn't necessarily buying it 347 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: just because I didn't see a brand new car in 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: the lot. I saw a team that deconstructed their defense 349 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: last year and just brought in new players this season. 350 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: I saw an offensive line that still had a lot 351 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: of the same question marks as last year. Because as 352 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: much as gets put on Justin Fields and a lot 353 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: of people talk about, well, you know, he can run, 354 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: but he can't throw. I think you also saw the 355 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: difference between an offensive line with Jordan Love that gave 356 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: him time, gave him, you know, opportunity, in an offensive 357 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: line with Chicago where they had to kind of make 358 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: adjustments based on how much penetration green Bay was getting. 359 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 2: The thing I loved about this victory though, Mike and 360 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: you touched on it on your story on Monday, the 361 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: fact that the Packers offensive line, for as many questions 362 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: as there were, you know, David bock Terry doesn't practice last. 363 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Week for like two weeks. 364 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, situation at right tackle, all these things in that 365 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: unit probably put together one of the more impressive performances 366 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: I've seen, even dating back to training camp. I just 367 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: thought they looked in command, and I thought, even on 368 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: both sides, you know, this is iron sharpening iron, and 369 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: some good players in both of these offensive and defensive fronts, 370 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: and they finally got to go out in really go 371 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: full tilt against an opposing team, and it gave them 372 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: a lot to build on. 373 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely a little bit of sponsor business here. West 374 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: Sirius XM. NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 375 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: to the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need 376 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, three sixty five. 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But the Detroit Lions beat the defending champs, 384 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead in the NFL kickoff 385 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: game last Thursday, and then the Buccaneers went into US 386 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium and knocked off the defending NFC North champion 387 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings in Week one. I think everybody in the 388 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: f world or just about everybody, thought both of those 389 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: games would go the other way, that the Lions would 390 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: be zero to one and the Vikings would be one 391 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: to zero based on those Week one matchups and locations 392 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: of those games. But here we are West, the new 393 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: season is underway, and you just never know. 394 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: If there was ever a game that indicated the importance 395 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: of a tight end and then the importance of the quarterback, 396 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: it was these two games, starting just really quickly with 397 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield won this game for Tampa Bay. 398 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay was not able to run the ball well, 399 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: they weren't. Situationally. There were some struggles, but ultimately Baker 400 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: Mayfield made some plays and didn't make as any mistakes 401 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: as Kirk Cousins made. Even though Cousins from a pure 402 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: output standpoint production standpoint outshined him, it comes back to 403 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: that turnover margin. This game changes, things evolve, but it 404 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: always comes back to how you do protecting the football 405 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: in when the chips were down and Mayfield need to 406 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: make a throw, he made it late. Because as many 407 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: changes as there are there for them, both with Tom 408 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: Brady and also some of those backfield additions, they still 409 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: got Mike Evans and they still got Chris Godwin, and 410 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: I thought both of those guys really shine when they 411 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: needed to. I'll throw the Lions thing back to you 412 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: because I think I probably had a little bit more 413 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: different opinion on this than a lot of folks. But 414 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: I will say this, the Lions beat the Chiefs. They 415 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: went into Arrowhead Stadium. That's a huge victory. I don't 416 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: think it was the coming out party that the NFL 417 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: wanted it to be based on that. I think they 418 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 2: were kind of hoping for maybe a forty two to 419 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: forty one shootout. It did not work out that way. 420 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but. 421 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 2: Beating Kansas City is one thing. Beating Kansas City with 422 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey is another. Unfortunately for the Packers, they probably 423 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: will have to see Kelsey later this season. I think 424 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: the Lions that worked out perfectly for them. The fact 425 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: that Kelsey's injury happened when it did, Kansas City had 426 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: to make some really stark adjustments, and unfortunately for Kadarius 427 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: Tony probably had one of the worst games I think 428 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: I've ever seen from a player in a regular season. Yeah. 429 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean the bottom line is this, even with 430 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: even with Travis Kelcey being out, with Chris Jones not 431 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: having signed his contract to you know, all pro players 432 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs, if they catch the football, 433 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: they win the game, right, I mean, it's it's it's 434 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that It's that simple. Because because the Lions got seven 435 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: points on defense off of a perfect throw by Patrick Mahomes, 436 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: that turns into seven points the other way. So, but 437 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: that's football. That's the way this game goes. You have 438 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: you have to execute, and when you and when you 439 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: don't execute, and the other team is good enough to 440 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: take advantage of your mistakes, that's what happens. And and 441 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: and that's how this league goes. And that's why, as 442 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I said, you just you just never know. It's why 443 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: you have to play the games, and you have to 444 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: take care of business, and and the Kansas City Chiefs 445 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: are going to be fine. I think I think the 446 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: larger question now when I when I look at where 447 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions are a lot of hype, obviously a 448 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: lot of folks picking them to win the NFC North. 449 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: Now they start with a big win in Kansas City. 450 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: Go back to what for me and I'll always remember this, 451 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: it was my first year here in this position with 452 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. And go back to what Mike McCarthy 453 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: said when he was first hired here in Green Bay 454 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six and he's taking over a 455 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: four and twelve team. Everybody was wondering where this was 456 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: going with a Hall of Fame quarterback and Brett Favre, 457 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy was asked what the biggest challenge was 458 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: going to be and he says, our biggest challenge will 459 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: be handling success. I mean, a he knew that he 460 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: was going to make the team successful, but it is 461 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: a big challenge in this league to handle success. What 462 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: happens when you're in a downturn with your team, with 463 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: your franchise, and then the success comes to maybe some 464 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: guys who haven't experienced it yet in the NFL, how 465 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: do they handle it, what happens, how do you move forward? 466 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Not making any predictions one way or the other, I 467 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: think that is the big question right now for the 468 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: Lions and for Dan Campbell moving forward, because that there's 469 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: no two ways about it. That was a huge victory for. 470 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: Them, absolutely, and especially to have that platform a team 471 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: that went so long without even really being in prime 472 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: time other than some Thanksgiving games, that was a big 473 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: moment that what I will My big takeaway from this 474 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: game was though actually had very little to do with 475 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball, It had to do 476 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: with One, they're very creative on special teams. I give 477 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: them so much credit for that. The fake punts that 478 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: they've pulled off the last couple of years are just incredible. 479 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: But Two, that defense statistically was not very good last year. 480 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: Packers had some rough outings against them, but I feel 481 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: like they built towards something at the end of the 482 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: season and that carried into this game. Aiden Hutchinson is 483 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: going to be a real player in this league and 484 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: he's going to be a problem for a lot of teams. Yeah, 485 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: He's a beast to deal with, especially the way they're 486 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: using and moving them inside a little bit. Brian Branch 487 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: might end up being the best overall value pick though 488 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: of this draft. I mean, it's a guy that a 489 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: lot of folks talked about being a possible first rounder. Unfortunately, 490 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: he plays safety in twenty twenty three, and some people 491 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: don't want to put those assets towards the position. But 492 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: he played great and it wasn't just the pick. I 493 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: mean overall. I thought he had a really solid football 494 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: game and showed how valuable that position can be for 495 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: a team that has really struggled in its secondary the 496 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: last few seasons. 497 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Lions look like they're putting something together on 498 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: defense with without a whole lot of household names. Aidan 499 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Hutchinson is the name everybody knows, but it feels like 500 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: we're going to start to know some more of the 501 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: names on that Lions defense as the season goes forward. 502 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: So and Packers are going to see him soon enough 503 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: week four Thursday, and at football it's coming up soon enough. 504 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: Two weeks away. 505 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be here before we know it, 506 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: and the Lions will be coming here to Green Bay 507 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: for a big NFC North battle. But with that we'll 508 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 509 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 510 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: team on packers dot com for wes I am Mike. 511 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you 512 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: next time.